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[2016-12-06 09:38:45] imabeast : shorted etc.. bearish pivot on the 4 hr.. hoping it touches that .001 support for a quick scalp
[2016-12-06 09:38:59] wurstgelee : considered it...too risky imo tho
[2016-12-06 09:39:07] wurstgelee : eth dying might give etc a boost
[2016-12-06 09:39:12] imabeast : yea
[2016-12-06 09:39:15] wurstgelee : also that etcwin stuff
[2016-12-06 09:39:18] imabeast : tight stops just in case
[2016-12-06 09:39:31] wurstgelee : so instead i longed it :p
[2016-12-06 09:39:35] imabeast : :)
[2016-12-06 09:39:55] wurstgelee : only alt long atm
[2016-12-06 09:43:30] imabeast : wurstgelee: are u in the etcwin?
[2016-12-06 09:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.008140
[2016-12-06 09:50:43] mjones : bounce eth
[2016-12-06 09:51:05] mjones : i need to make back what i just lost
[2016-12-06 09:52:25] mjones : good support to .008
[2016-12-06 09:52:58] imabeast : mjones: longed eth 0.0 ?
[2016-12-06 09:53:36] mjones : yeah. i did on accident few minutes ago
[2016-12-06 09:54:02] imabeast : :(
[2016-12-06 09:54:17] imabeast : yea might bounce here though
[2016-12-06 09:54:22] KingTuna : surely ETH is going to eventually bounce big league, but when?
[2016-12-06 09:54:42] KingTuna : ETH one big dETH spiral for 3 months
[2016-12-06 09:55:03] mjones : see if someone has 70,000 eth to break .008
[2016-12-06 09:55:17] mjones : otherwise cut my losses
[2016-12-06 09:55:28] KingTuna : Ill hold onto my x5 perpetual XBT for the next year lol
[2016-12-06 09:55:35] KingTuna : safer
[2016-12-06 09:55:54] KingTuna : log
[2016-12-06 09:55:57] KingTuna : long*
[2016-12-06 09:56:14] imabeast : maybe an eth bounce to 89 or so then down
[2016-12-06 09:57:07] mjones : safer longing btc
[2016-12-06 09:57:11] billyboy402 : KingTuna: better too short you will make around 100% in funding cost , maybe more if u get a few day 0.3725% and if bitmex lower it down to 50x or x20 you will get even more funding
[2016-12-06 10:00:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 29 @ 0.008020
[2016-12-06 10:00:47] KingTuna : billyboy402: Il have to figure this out, Im new to Bitmex - By shorting, I'm banking on BTC going down next year (lending out), or lending out to people in reverse
[2016-12-06 10:03:33] l3f : Why are all thesr kids rekt on eth
[2016-12-06 10:04:28] billyboy402 : l3f: prob only the market maker . but there prob hedge postions , so they dont care
[2016-12-06 10:13:19] rapidtrades : holy crap bitcorn just wont die
[2016-12-06 10:14:51] KingTuna : people expecting bitcoin to die after an epic run, so it prob will do opposite and continue lol
[2016-12-06 10:16:51] thomaskikansha : eth holy
[2016-12-06 10:17:09] KingTuna : DETH spiral wow
[2016-12-06 10:18:10] billyboy402 : rapidtrades: no buddy
[2016-12-06 10:18:20] imabeast : ect bouta break .001
[2016-12-06 10:20:06] rapidtrades : billyboy402: yeah buddy
[2016-12-06 10:20:06] rms : someone on the poloniex trollbox saying it was an eth whale was hacked and that's where the dump is coming from?
[2016-12-06 10:20:26] rapidtrades : some idiot no doubt
[2016-12-06 10:20:38] Mangalica : yeah
[2016-12-06 10:20:42] rapidtrades : polo IQ is farily low
[2016-12-06 10:20:57] rms : oh i know, the cultural difference here and there is interesting
[2016-12-06 10:21:29] billyboy402 : rapidtrades: haha at IQ
[2016-12-06 10:21:46] billyboy402 : rapidtrades: im just glad where olding BTC price up for xmas
[2016-12-06 10:24:04] rapidtrades : holy crap +7 hrs no confirms
[2016-12-06 10:24:28] bukeyi : rms: i think that was abt rep
[2016-12-06 10:24:34] rapidtrades : do i get priority the longer I wait? or is it a crapshot whether I get in next block?
[2016-12-06 10:24:48] billyboy402 : rapidtrades: for what , Polo \
[2016-12-06 10:25:02] rms : i thought he said eth and rep
[2016-12-06 10:25:03] billyboy402 : or cheap bitcoin transfer
[2016-12-06 10:25:23] rms : would be curious to see confirmation of a rep theft if that was also maybe true...
[2016-12-06 10:25:40] bukeyi : rms: https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/806076648525352960
[2016-12-06 10:26:47] rms : thanks
[2016-12-06 10:27:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.007950
[2016-12-06 10:33:14] rapidtrades : who is 'Bo Shen'
[2016-12-06 10:36:57] wurstgelee : polo is a slaughterhouse
[2016-12-06 10:39:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.008010
[2016-12-06 10:42:01] rapidtrades : do i get priority the longer I wait? or is it a crapshot whether I get in next block?
[2016-12-06 10:50:05] rapidtrades : i remember a time when I paid <5 cents
[2016-12-06 10:50:15] no : there is no starvation built into the bitcoin blockchain
[2016-12-06 10:50:26] no : so it's a crapshot :'(
[2016-12-06 10:50:31] rapidtrades : oh ffs
[2016-12-06 10:50:35] haxmb : rapidtrades: its random every block
[2016-12-06 10:50:37] rapidtrades : guess im dead
[2016-12-06 10:50:43] haxmb : but they prioritize higher fee tx
[2016-12-06 10:50:50] haxmb : how cheap are you ? :D
[2016-12-06 10:50:51] rapidtrades : are there still 30000 backlog?
[2016-12-06 10:51:06] haxmb : https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx
[2016-12-06 10:51:19] rapidtrades : how that's not a hax
[2016-12-06 10:51:19] haxmb : https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
[2016-12-06 10:51:33] haxmb : 36k tx backlog
[2016-12-06 10:51:46] haxmb : if you paid 0.0008 BTC/KB you would have been included in next block
[2016-12-06 10:51:57] haxmb : thats why i ask, how cheap are you :D
[2016-12-06 10:52:28] l3f : meth is on sale boys, don't forget to catch the falling knife
[2016-12-06 10:52:49] rapidtrades : haxmb: f*ck u
[2016-12-06 10:52:57] haxmb : rapidtrades: <3
[2016-12-06 10:53:17] haxmb : if it's so important for you to have the BTC somewhere quickly, pay for the damn service
[2016-12-06 10:53:23] haxmb : beggars can't be choosers
[2016-12-06 10:53:40] rapidtrades : i usually use 15-20 cents but i cheaped out on this one cos it was a smaller amount
[2016-12-06 10:53:51] rapidtrades : i thought it will go through eventually
[2016-12-06 10:53:53] haxmb : rapidtrades: then why is it so important to have it quickly
[2016-12-06 10:53:58] haxmb : if its a small amount
[2016-12-06 10:54:13] rapidtrades : that's classified
[2016-12-06 10:54:21] haxmb : it will either get confirmed in a 72 hour window or the tx will be cancelled
[2016-12-06 10:54:44] rapidtrades : if its cancelled do i lose the fee?
[2016-12-06 10:55:01] haxmb : no
[2016-12-06 10:55:03] haxmb : it will be returned
[2016-12-06 10:55:06] rapidtrades : i've never heard of this 72h rule, can anyone confirm
[2016-12-06 10:55:10] haxmb : unless you sent it from an exchange
[2016-12-06 10:55:17] rapidtrades : no
[2016-12-06 10:55:22] zanza : wow i feel bad for ETH
[2016-12-06 10:55:29] zanza : .007
[2016-12-06 10:55:43] zanza : damn trainwreck
[2016-12-06 10:55:47] rapidtrades : almost ZEC > ETH again
[2016-12-06 10:55:51] haxmb : http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/23012/btc-stuck-with-zero-confirmations
[2016-12-06 10:56:09] rapidtrades : well u can only to so many hard forks before ppl call you on your bullshit
[2016-12-06 10:56:25] rapidtrades : their coding is suppar
[2016-12-06 10:56:26] haxmb : oh maybe it's only on blockchain.info
[2016-12-06 10:56:30] haxmb : that 72hr thing
[2016-12-06 10:56:33] rapidtrades : subpar
[2016-12-06 10:56:39] haxmb : i did read about it on btc forums i think
[2016-12-06 10:57:13] rapidtrades : can i add extra 5 cents to fee? lol
[2016-12-06 10:57:16] zanza : ETC holding like a champ
[2016-12-06 10:57:23] haxmb : http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/43155/do-unconfirmed-transactions-expire-after-some-time
[2016-12-06 10:57:25] haxmb : rapidtrades
[2016-12-06 10:57:32] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/5griyc/daily_discussion_06dec2016/
[2016-12-06 10:57:44] haxmb : it is 72 hours
[2016-12-06 10:58:23] zanza : apparently there is a hacker selling ETH
[2016-12-06 10:58:38] rapidtrades : no there isn't
[2016-12-06 10:58:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1900 @ 0.001020
[2016-12-06 10:58:55] haxmb : zanza: https://twitter.com/tensorjack/status/806084099202945024
[2016-12-06 10:59:02] haxmb : rapidtrades: yes there is
[2016-12-06 10:59:06] haxmb : confirmed by REP devs
[2016-12-06 10:59:13] haxmb : and hacker also hacked the guys twitter
[2016-12-06 11:00:06] rapidtrades : plz
[2016-12-06 11:00:12] rapidtrades : noone cares
[2016-12-06 11:00:27] rapidtrades : ETH has been falling for months
[2016-12-06 11:01:04] rapidtrades : it's been in downtrend since bitcoin started the rally
[2016-12-06 11:01:32] rapidtrades : yesterday's loss is similar to today
[2016-12-06 11:01:45] rapidtrades : so looks like more of the same to me not hacking
[2016-12-06 11:02:31] rapidtrades : exchanges probably already locked his account
[2016-12-06 11:02:32] haxmb : im talking about REP but sure
[2016-12-06 11:02:48] rapidtrades : ok cos zanza was talking about ETH
[2016-12-06 11:02:55] haxmb : and its proven that his account is hacked, including ETH balances
[2016-12-06 11:03:07] haxmb : and if you look @ poloniex REPBTC that was a pretty aggressive market sell
[2016-12-06 11:03:31] haxmb : to 0.0001
[2016-12-06 11:04:15] zanza : obviusly they are dumping ETH for BTC
[2016-12-06 11:04:19] rapidtrades : yes REP fall definitely is not normal
[2016-12-06 11:04:55] rapidtrades : it's down over 30% today
[2016-12-06 11:06:10] zanza : they gunna hardfork out this hacker
[2016-12-06 11:06:18] zanza : rollback the ETH
[2016-12-06 11:06:57] haxmb : zanza: nope not gonna happen
[2016-12-06 11:07:18] rapidtrades : what do u think about long rep
[2016-12-06 11:07:29] haxmb : they cant hardfork out the hacker, he hacked exchange accounts and traded
[2016-12-06 11:07:35] haxmb : you cant rollback that shit
[2016-12-06 11:07:50] haxmb : the DAO was a unique case because the ETH was still locked on the blockchain
[2016-12-06 11:08:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 16 @ 0.009642
[2016-12-06 11:09:31] zanza : the hacker knows he has to swap the ETH for something else since ETH will rollback from DAO precedent
[2016-12-06 11:10:12] cookielito : Hello, I havee been waiting on a deposit
[2016-12-06 11:10:24] cookielito : for almost 12 hours now
[2016-12-06 11:11:17] haxmb : zanza: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
[2016-12-06 11:11:29] haxmb : he hacked the EXCHANGE account of the guy
[2016-12-06 11:11:41] rapidtrades : how REP hit a low close to 0 today
[2016-12-06 11:11:50] haxmb : he traded with the balances and sold REP and ETH
[2016-12-06 11:11:59] haxmb : there is no blockchain rollback possible since it happened off-chain
[2016-12-06 11:12:13] haxmb : you can rollback the ETH blockchain back to block 1 and he still sold the ETH and REP
[2016-12-06 11:12:17] haxmb : dear lord
[2016-12-06 11:12:25] rapidtrades : why is the lowest low here 0.0023??/
[2016-12-06 11:12:33] zanza : exchanges are on chain
[2016-12-06 11:12:35] haxmb : rapidtrades: because it was a market sell of 100k
[2016-12-06 11:12:37] haxmb : zanza: wat
[2016-12-06 11:12:41] haxmb : lol
[2016-12-06 11:12:51] zanza : you send you ETH there
[2016-12-06 11:12:54] haxmb : oh well, i give up
[2016-12-06 11:13:00] zanza : and withdraw it
[2016-12-06 11:13:05] haxmb : im happy there are people like you so people like me can make money
[2016-12-06 11:13:13] BitMEX_Wally : cookielito: I see your deposit transaction is still unconfirmed by the Bitcoin network
[2016-12-06 11:13:28] haxmb : zanza: yes you can send and withdraw to their address
[2016-12-06 11:13:33] zanza : Bitcoin Network (tm)
[2016-12-06 11:13:37] rapidtrades : network is f*cked right now
[2016-12-06 11:13:43] haxmb : but the trades that happen on the exchange cant be rolled back with the BLOCKCHAIN
[2016-12-06 11:13:52] haxmb : and poloniex is not gonna roll back the trades
[2016-12-06 11:13:59] rapidtrades : he'll never be allowed to withdraw
[2016-12-06 11:14:10] zanza : right because he exchanged them to different currency
[2016-12-06 11:14:15] rapidtrades : maybe he did it so he could buy cheap
[2016-12-06 11:14:19] zanza : cross chains
[2016-12-06 11:14:28] haxmb : rapidtrades: what if he already sold/bought the BTC into different accounts
[2016-12-06 11:14:30] rapidtrades : there are other ways to profit from hacks
[2016-12-06 11:14:31] haxmb : and withdrew from there
[2016-12-06 11:14:44] rapidtrades : yes that's the only way
[2016-12-06 11:14:53] haxmb : if he wanted to get the BTC off-exchange he would have already succeeded before anyone knew
[2016-12-06 11:14:54] zanza : but if he didn't, and say he just at on 100,000k ETH
[2016-12-06 11:14:58] rapidtrades : but any large bids will likely be looked at by polo
[2016-12-06 11:15:03] zanza : then VItalik could zero out his address or something
[2016-12-06 11:15:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.008230
[2016-12-06 11:15:08] haxmb : so there is no possibility to roll back the chain
[2016-12-06 11:15:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3 @ 0.008240
[2016-12-06 11:15:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.008240
[2016-12-06 11:15:20] haxmb : "but if he didn't, and say he just at on 100,000k ETH" <--- but he didnt
[2016-12-06 11:15:32] haxmb : so gl with your what if
[2016-12-06 11:15:33] zanza : right, he had to dump ETH
[2016-12-06 11:15:37] zanza : thats why ETH is crashing
[2016-12-06 11:15:53] haxmb : you go roll back all the chains you can find zanza
[2016-12-06 11:16:02] rapidtrades : ETH has been crashing every day dude
[2016-12-06 11:16:09] zanza : if there was no precedent for that, he could just hold the ETH
[2016-12-06 11:16:20] zanza : the hacker could have been dumping for days now, we dont know
[2016-12-06 11:16:28] haxmb : panic is over guys, get long
[2016-12-06 11:16:32] rapidtrades : whatever ETH he got, wasn't much as u can see from charts
[2016-12-06 11:16:41] zanza : actually that he revealed the hack, probably means he finished
[2016-12-06 11:16:52] zanza : dumping
[2016-12-06 11:16:53] rapidtrades : yeah long rep not a bad idea but long-term charts look so ugly
[2016-12-06 11:16:55] haxmb : it happened today
[2016-12-06 11:17:02] haxmb : and it's already over
[2016-12-06 11:17:26] zanza : so he dropped it from like .015 to .008
[2016-12-06 11:17:37] zanza : hacker did]
[2016-12-06 11:17:57] haxmb : zanza: no he didnt
[2016-12-06 11:18:08] rapidtrades : wtf zanza
[2016-12-06 11:18:14] haxmb : rofl
[2016-12-06 11:18:27] rapidtrades : ETH fell from 009 to 008
[2016-12-06 11:18:42] rapidtrades : yesterday it fell from 01 to 009
[2016-12-06 11:18:50] rapidtrades : notice the pattern
[2016-12-06 11:18:57] zanza : ,0105*
[2016-12-06 11:19:22] rapidtrades : no never got above 0093
[2016-12-06 11:19:23] haxmb : 150 or 105 lel
[2016-12-06 11:19:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: Buy 140 @ 0.003164
[2016-12-06 11:19:55] rapidtrades : look at daily ETH chart
[2016-12-06 11:20:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.007960
[2016-12-06 11:21:13] KingTuna : loll nice 172% made for that ETH short in 10 seconds lol
[2016-12-06 11:23:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `WINZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.002553
[2016-12-06 11:24:44] haxmb : 8)
[2016-12-06 11:26:27] rapidtrades : zanza: what's ur job?
[2016-12-06 11:26:38] zanza : climate scientist
[2016-12-06 11:26:54] rapidtrades : for real?
[2016-12-06 11:27:56] rapidtrades : man this transaction will never complete
[2016-12-06 11:42:50] no : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin
[2016-12-06 11:43:02] no : we are getting > 4tx/s
[2016-12-06 11:44:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.008040
[2016-12-06 11:46:56] zanza : spam
[2016-12-06 11:55:52] zanza : https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/806101658497327104
[2016-12-06 11:56:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.008110
[2016-12-06 11:59:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: Buy 1100 @ 0.003790
[2016-12-06 12:00:38] anonymous789 : good place to short btc imop
[2016-12-06 12:00:41] anonymous789 : imo*
[2016-12-06 12:04:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 950 @ 0.000987
[2016-12-06 12:21:31] BTCDJS : REP whale got hacked. Price plummets. 100000 REP being dumped
[2016-12-06 12:21:50] mitache365 : REP hacked?
[2016-12-06 12:22:00] BTCDJS : REP whale
[2016-12-06 12:22:12] BTCDJS : His own private keys
[2016-12-06 12:22:14] mitache365 : at Polo?
[2016-12-06 12:22:20] mitache365 : oh shit
[2016-12-06 12:22:58] BTCDJS : His Twitter too
[2016-12-06 12:23:04] BTCDJS : Bo Shen
[2016-12-06 12:24:23] BTCDJS : Great time to short REP
[2016-12-06 12:25:41] BTCDJS : Unless polo reverses the trades
[2016-12-06 12:27:24] sleger : maybe they only hacked his twitter to create panic ?
[2016-12-06 12:27:51] BTCDJS : Not according to Jack the Dev from REP
[2016-12-06 12:28:06] rapidtrades : REP crashed close to 0 on polo
[2016-12-06 12:28:21] rapidtrades : so they dumped a ton
[2016-12-06 12:28:41] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/tensorjack/status/806106645050769408
[2016-12-06 12:31:08] sleger : indeed, he confirms other early investors were hacked too
[2016-12-06 12:32:15] rapidtrades : by the phone hack?
[2016-12-06 12:32:56] sleger : same method he says
[2016-12-06 12:35:07] rapidtrades : so if I use googly auth im safe?
[2016-12-06 12:35:39] rapidtrades : or can they bypass that too
[2016-12-06 12:36:11] rapidtrades : IF YOU USE CRYPTOS AT ALL, EVER, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A RECOVERY PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT. [5/]
[2016-12-06 12:36:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.008290
[2016-12-06 12:36:24] rapidtrades : then how do i recover?
[2016-12-06 12:38:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: Buy 265 @ 0.003772
[2016-12-06 12:38:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: Buy 6 @ 0.003795
[2016-12-06 12:44:00] rapidtrades : +10 hrs now and no confirms
[2016-12-06 12:45:16] kb1985 : Bitcoin fixed luckily. That hack brought the price down temporarily, indeed.
[2016-12-06 12:45:27] kb1985 : I mean ETH. ;)
[2016-12-06 12:45:54] kb1985 : Let's hope we will see some decent ETH reversal finally.
[2016-12-06 12:45:57] rapidtrades : ETH is most certainly not 'fixed' REP looks ok
[2016-12-06 12:46:28] rapidtrades : hacking has nothing to do with ETH fall, just wishful thinking
[2016-12-06 12:46:42] kb1985 : REP and ETH were dumped, that brought the price down quicker than normal. Many people sold and whe figured out whjat happened are rebuying, the trend is changing.
[2016-12-06 12:47:04] kb1985 : Well, the guy's ETH and REP were hacked, I woudl not say it has nothing to do with ETH. It witnessed huge dump.
[2016-12-06 12:47:11] rapidtrades : look at the charts dude
[2016-12-06 12:47:21] kb1985 : Of course it was in a downtrend anyway, but this dumped made it go down even steeper.
[2016-12-06 12:47:52] kb1985 : I am looking at the charts, it was 0.0076 and now back to 0.0083 and almost 0.0084 ;)
[2016-12-06 12:48:32] kb1985 : If the hacker starter dupign at 0.0089 I think we can easily go back there, and if we get enought traction it might go even higher, who knows.
[2016-12-06 12:48:41] kb1985 : 0.0084 on polo now, cmibing fast
[2016-12-06 12:49:04] kb1985 : *climbing
[2016-12-06 12:49:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.008430
[2016-12-06 12:49:53] rapidtrades : holy shit, got confirmation after 10 hrs
[2016-12-06 12:50:41] rapidtrades : good news guys, 10 cent fee still gets the job done
[2016-12-06 12:51:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 197 @ 0.008530
[2016-12-06 12:51:23] thomaskikansha : rapidtrades: nice
[2016-12-06 12:51:42] rapidtrades : i'm gonna experiment with 5 cens next
[2016-12-06 12:52:52] thomaskikansha : 10 blocks last hour
[2016-12-06 12:53:02] kb1985 : 0.0086 on Polo already! this is nice! headin to 0.0092 as we speak
[2016-12-06 12:53:13] rapidtrades : thomaskikansha: lol...so i got lucky?
[2016-12-06 12:53:25] kb1985 : 0.0087 now! amazing!
[2016-12-06 12:53:46] rapidtrades : good price to sell imo
[2016-12-06 12:54:07] kb1985 : no way, that is long waited reversal
[2016-12-06 12:54:17] thomaskikansha : rapidtrades: yeah why not? the cheaper-fee ones got processed thanks to the short block time
[2016-12-06 13:00:00] kb1985 : oh, or perhaps it is just bounce, it seems to be already collapsing on polo, who knows
[2016-12-06 13:01:00] kb1985 : Interesting day.
[2016-12-06 13:03:41] kb1985 : Well, OK, I was wrong, Poloniex seems to be collapsing aftr all. :D
[2016-12-06 13:04:16] kb1985 : The question is will it go to new lows now.
[2016-12-06 13:05:09] wurstgelee : it will
[2016-12-06 13:05:39] kb1985 : Timbeeeer!
[2016-12-06 13:07:47] kb1985 : OK guys, have fun!
[2016-12-06 13:13:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `WINZ16`: Buy 6160 @ 0.002468
[2016-12-06 13:15:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.001000
[2016-12-06 13:19:29] thomaskikansha : WIN at up limit again?
[2016-12-06 13:20:57] Lord Rothschild : this doesnt look scammy at all
[2016-12-06 13:22:03] thomaskikansha : up 100% from yeaterday
[2016-12-06 13:22:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.001008
[2016-12-06 13:24:48] RoftheN : Damn I lost most of my money
[2016-12-06 13:24:52] RoftheN : AGAIN
[2016-12-06 13:25:09] RoftheN : This game is
[2016-12-06 13:25:12] RoftheN : hard
[2016-12-06 13:27:24] thiago : stop loss is always ur friend
[2016-12-06 13:36:01] BTCDJS : RoftheN: stick to spot
[2016-12-06 13:36:13] BTCDJS : best advice I ever got
[2016-12-06 13:36:26] RoftheN : But that's no fun
[2016-12-06 13:36:53] RoftheN : Guess I'll have to find a job, there go my dreams of never having to work
[2016-12-06 13:36:55] l3f : RoftheN: bitmex casino and resort
[2016-12-06 13:37:24] rms : poker is easier because the game stops when you leave the table
[2016-12-06 13:37:28] BTCDJS : which I frequently ignore but only small amounts on lower leverage if I'm very positive about the direction
[2016-12-06 13:37:48] AudibleScience : RoftheN: what can you do?
[2016-12-06 13:39:33] RoftheN : Not much
[2016-12-06 13:39:51] RoftheN : Maybe I should become professional poker player
[2016-12-06 13:39:57] thiago : dude, test with a small position and add up if green
[2016-12-06 13:40:01] thiago : poker is stupid
[2016-12-06 13:40:31] RoftheN : Lol idk
[2016-12-06 13:40:34] rms : either you get it or you don't... but it's worth learning and trying to see if you are really really good at it or something
[2016-12-06 13:40:43] RoftheN : I think I should just get a job and pay taxes
[2016-12-06 13:40:56] rms : if you're good at other hard games, magic the gathering or something, you're probably good at poker
[2016-12-06 13:41:08] thiago : you have to spend 12 hours with 4 screens playing multiple games to be at current poker nerd levels online..
[2016-12-06 13:41:39] RoftheN : Which sounds quite fun
[2016-12-06 13:41:48] rms : you don't have to, different people play different ways... if you're good enough, play for big enough money that you can do it for 20 hours a week
[2016-12-06 13:41:53] RoftheN : But the best thing about poker, lots of players suck and don't know how to play. But Iguess that's the same with trading
[2016-12-06 13:42:06] thiago : this is way easier.. you just dont drive a ferrari like a maniac on the first time. . .
[2016-12-06 13:42:07] rms : when i was last playing my winning rate ended up being $12/hour
[2016-12-06 13:42:21] rms : ...which was fine, but not really worth it to me
[2016-12-06 13:42:58] rms : ...my advice for a trader here is to not blow all of your money now, and make sure you are in or can enter a position when you think bitcoin is about to hit the moon
[2016-12-06 13:43:39] rms : but if you think bitcoin can double in a day, maybe not do your investment on a futures market cause liquidations will kill our profit if that happens
[2016-12-06 13:43:42] RoftheN : Well fortunately I didn't have a lot of play money. But yeah I think I should save up for Bitcoin
[2016-12-06 13:43:58] RoftheN : I don't think bitcoin can double in a day
[2016-12-06 13:44:26] rms : probably not anymore, but doubling in two weeks isn't impossible
[2016-12-06 13:44:41] rms : we could see 20% swings over the course of the day if it's bubbling
[2016-12-06 13:44:51] rms : not that different than what we have seen with recent ETH swings
[2016-12-06 13:45:32] rapidtrades : except, ETH ''swings'' were to the downside only
[2016-12-06 13:45:50] rapidtrades : cos 1. ETH is shit 2. ETH is coded by shitheads 3. ETH is used y shitheads
[2016-12-06 13:46:16] thiago : could say the same about bitcoin lol
[2016-12-06 13:46:25] rapidtrades : no u can't
[2016-12-06 13:46:34] rms : i met vitalik before launch
[2016-12-06 13:46:35] rms : he's legit
[2016-12-06 13:46:44] rapidtrades : he's a poor coder
[2016-12-06 13:46:45] rms : eth isn't used by anyone, not even shitheads
[2016-12-06 13:46:49] RoftheN : I'm still waiting for the coin that will beat bitcoin, and it's not Ethereum
[2016-12-06 13:47:02] rms : maybe he has poor quality control and testing...
[2016-12-06 13:47:12] rapidtrades : nothing will beat bitcoin, its too far ahead
[2016-12-06 13:47:20] rms : as smart as anyone i've ever met though, and a currency could do much much much worse than to have him as figurehead
[2016-12-06 13:47:44] rapidtrades : have a figurehead is also dumb
[2016-12-06 13:48:00] rms : i think the blockchain innovation needed for ether to take of is something that lets you exchange ETH and BTC for stocks and commodities and futures or pretty much anything
[2016-12-06 13:48:22] rms : but a smart contract that can interface with the futures market will happen sometime in the next 10 years
[2016-12-06 13:48:23] rapidtrades : not gonna happen
[2016-12-06 13:48:33] rms : right now ETH seems like the best candidate... if ETH doesn't do it, someone else will...
[2016-12-06 13:49:09] rapidtrades : the best u can hope for is some renegade exchange to offer futures commodities etc
[2016-12-06 13:49:30] rapidtrades : no legit exchange will allow smart anonymous contracts
[2016-12-06 13:49:55] rms : yeah, they'd have to be smart not anonymous contracts
[2016-12-06 13:50:10] rms : but some real person with multiple forms of ID as the responsibility holder for the smart contract
[2016-12-06 13:50:15] rms : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5fjn25/jered_kenna_tradehill_founder_partnering_with/
[2016-12-06 13:50:28] rms : is something that could turn into a blockchain brokerage
[2016-12-06 13:50:40] rms : but you can deposit bitcoins and buy stocks on the same platform, maybe
[2016-12-06 13:50:42] rapidtrades : regulations will have to change for that and they're moving in opposite direction
[2016-12-06 13:51:04] rapidtrades : for example forex leveraged just got capped to 50 in both uk and cyprus
[2016-12-06 13:51:13] rms : sure. it's a hard problem. so i expect it to happen in 5-10 years, not next year
[2016-12-06 13:51:33] rms : so ether may be ahead of its time and there is room for a better coded and more easy to make secure smart contract system in the meanwhile
[2016-12-06 13:51:35] rapidtrades : goverments keep cracking down on 'speculation'
[2016-12-06 13:53:18] rapidtrades : FCA bonus ban and leverage cap sends IG, CMC and Plus500 shares diving 26-30%
[2016-12-06 13:54:59] rms : that seems like part of the anti-globalization trend happening now
[2016-12-06 13:55:34] rapidtrades : not really no...this trend started in early 2008
[2016-12-06 13:55:52] rms : i dunno. if i could bet on it, i would definitely take even odds that a smart contract with a human KYC person was able to buy and sell stocks 10 years from now
[2016-12-06 13:56:46] rms : guess i'll have to wait for Augur to work
[2016-12-06 13:56:47] rms : :P
[2016-12-06 13:57:33] rapidtrades : it appears that there's no safe way to implement smart contracts, too many avenues to get hacked
[2016-12-06 13:58:19] rapidtrades : maybe on a peer to peer level where there's not much code to run?
[2016-12-06 14:14:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 9 @ 0.008670
[2016-12-06 14:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2000 @ 0.008710
[2016-12-06 14:19:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `WINZ16`: Buy 350 @ 0.002987
[2016-12-06 14:20:58] thomaskikansha : shorters Rekted
[2016-12-06 14:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.008980
[2016-12-06 14:40:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.003855
[2016-12-06 14:40:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2396 @ 0.008920
[2016-12-06 14:41:38] cookielito : For some reason ive been waiting like 24 hours for my deposit
[2016-12-06 14:43:15] cookielito : any way to get support????
[2016-12-06 14:43:22] habibi : reason is fee u paid, nothing to do with bmex
[2016-12-06 14:43:38] cookielito : la
[2016-12-06 14:44:34] cookielito : I see the problem
[2016-12-06 14:44:43] cookielito : wonderful
[2016-12-06 14:45:59] rapidtrades : cookielito: how much fee did u use? i got mine after 10 hrs
[2016-12-06 14:46:14] BitMEX_Greg : cookielito: We credit deposits after 1 confirmation on the blockchain. Next time try attaching a fee such as 0.0005 xbt for quicker confirmations perhaps
[2016-12-06 14:46:59] rapidtrades : that's overkill....0.00025 is fine if ur in hurry
[2016-12-06 14:47:15] cookielito : my mistake
[2016-12-06 14:47:19] rapidtrades : even 0.0002 seems to work without waiting much
[2016-12-06 14:47:20] cookielito : Had someone else do it
[2016-12-06 14:47:43] Rado : rapidtrades: Kraken charges me 0.0005 when I do withdrawals
[2016-12-06 14:48:01] rapidtrades : thats' funny cos their SEPA is cheaper
[2016-12-06 14:48:09] Rado : yeah
[2016-12-06 14:48:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1400 @ 0.009000
[2016-12-06 14:48:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.009010
[2016-12-06 14:48:35] rapidtrades : purse.io also charged me that much...bastards
[2016-12-06 14:48:57] Rado : what is purse.io?
[2016-12-06 14:49:11] cookielito : also do makers get charged the 0.025% here or no?
[2016-12-06 14:49:13] habibi : Rado: u can enter that in browser and see
[2016-12-06 14:49:26] Rado : I know I am lasy
[2016-12-06 14:49:32] rms : there is a maker/taker fee structure
[2016-12-06 14:49:33] Rado : also rapidtrades gives a good explenation
[2016-12-06 14:49:40] rms : maker's pay 1/3 as much as takers, i think
[2016-12-06 14:49:50] sleger : rms: think twice
[2016-12-06 14:50:05] Rado : makers get paid
[2016-12-06 14:50:20] cookielito : interesting
[2016-12-06 14:50:22] rms : really?
[2016-12-06 14:50:23] habibi : Rado: stay lazy, and keep asking obvious questions! :)
[2016-12-06 14:50:24] brouk : its -0.025% maker 0.075% taker fee
[2016-12-06 14:50:25] rms : you can tell i'm a noob
[2016-12-06 14:56:01] sleger : a lazy noob
[2016-12-06 14:57:32] Rado : ETH huge pop from the bottom
[2016-12-06 14:57:45] Rado : I guess it was way oversold under 0.008
[2016-12-06 14:57:55] habibi : Rado: so u calling end of downtrend?
[2016-12-06 14:58:03] Rado : I am not
[2016-12-06 14:58:17] habibi : so u calling to short now?!
[2016-12-06 14:58:30] Rado : lol
[2016-12-06 14:58:32] Rado : no
[2016-12-06 14:58:39] rapidtrades : SHORT ETH
[2016-12-06 14:58:53] habibi : so u don't have any finacial advice for fellow traders that are waiting for it from u :(?
[2016-12-06 14:59:05] laisee : LOMG ZEC
[2016-12-06 14:59:21] Rado : ETC gave up all gains
[2016-12-06 15:00:23] rms : i'm not calling the bottom but i think we get a short squeeze pop soon on eth
[2016-12-06 15:00:40] rms : zcash i'm calling the bottom
[2016-12-06 15:00:42] rms : ;)
[2016-12-06 15:01:06] Rado : rms: short squeeze soon?
[2016-12-06 15:01:23] laisee : ya I'm gunna buy 100
[2016-12-06 15:01:26] rms : how high are the ETH interest rates on poloniex still?
[2016-12-06 15:01:32] rms : that's the best indicator
[2016-12-06 15:01:51] rms : they went to like 1.5% during the dump
[2016-12-06 15:09:11] Spofas : anyone shorting etcwin?
[2016-12-06 15:10:59] kb1985 : Nope, but opened ETH short here.
[2016-12-06 15:11:39] kb1985 : The price action is similar to the one ond 3 December.
[2016-12-06 15:20:24] brouk : 3rd December much lower volume on the rise than now
[2016-12-06 15:20:43] brouk : may be a real breakout now
[2016-12-06 15:22:27] kb1985 : I don't think so, this is highly manipualted, look at that single 1000 BTC buy order. Someone probably preparing longs to boost the shorts even faster on polo.
[2016-12-06 15:22:45] kb1985 : Would be nice though, but too optimistic.
[2016-12-06 15:24:19] brouk : yea we'll see in a couple of hours
[2016-12-06 15:24:46] kb1985 : It's about 5% down daily. The trend continues it seems.
[2016-12-06 15:26:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1200 @ 0.008930
[2016-12-06 15:27:21] mjones : etcwin really pumped a lot
[2016-12-06 15:29:12] habibi : mjones: i would not call that a lot, but feel free to short it :)
[2016-12-06 15:29:38] rms : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5go20j/bitmex_launches_two_new_products_bitcoincny/
[2016-12-06 15:30:20] thomaskikansha : liquidation standing on up limit umm...
[2016-12-06 15:31:20] habibi : mjones: what i want to say, we pumped about 3x times from initial 800k usd, its still nothing even for shit product, if china people will go for that exchange and use it then 15x wouldn't be suprise
[2016-12-06 15:31:49] rms : where 800k represents 21% ownership, 47% voting rights
[2016-12-06 15:32:11] rms : so they were valuing themselves at 4M at initial offering, futures pricing would value them at 12MM
[2016-12-06 15:32:19] rms : seems high for yet another altcoin exchange
[2016-12-06 15:32:51] laisee : exchange is pumped, and pumping?
[2016-12-06 15:48:01] thomaskikansha : finally someone is selling into that order
[2016-12-06 16:02:23] CrazyAlfy : @BitMEX. Why is my position being unwound? In the Text section of the trade history it says Submitted via API, but I don't have API keys..
[2016-12-06 16:08:20] BitMEX_Wally : CrazyAlfy: That order was a Close order submitted via the frontend, the text is incorrect
[2016-12-06 16:09:54] CrazyAlfy : So you're saying I must have tapped the close button by mistake? If that's the case, is there a way to enable an "Are you sure?" option for this feature?
[2016-12-06 16:22:16] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: do you replicate the quoine liquidity here or does the MM also connect to bitmex and send his liquidity here directly ?
[2016-12-06 16:22:51] BitMEX_Wally : Quoine is a broker for the XBJ* products, so you can trade our futures on their frontend
[2016-12-06 16:23:11] sleger : so they are the ones copying the liquidity here
[2016-12-06 16:23:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: Sell 9100 @ 5356.900000
[2016-12-06 16:25:23] mjones : Btc dropping like it's hot
[2016-12-06 16:29:18] thomaskikansha : eth up 20% from low
[2016-12-06 16:29:51] CaptainDean : yeah missed the low
[2016-12-06 16:29:54] CaptainDean : was sleeiping fuck
[2016-12-06 16:29:55] CaptainDean : me
[2016-12-06 16:30:06] CaptainDean : looks like a good long anyhow
[2016-12-06 16:35:20] mjones : i like the dark theme changes. and i see some mobile layout changes too
[2016-12-06 16:38:32] mjones : i was napping and missed eth low too
[2016-12-06 16:42:05] kb1985 : I have a question regarding margin.
[2016-12-06 16:42:28] kb1985 : If someone is about to be force liquidated, can it be stopped by adding more BTC? I want to ubdnerstand this before I start playing with it.
[2016-12-06 16:42:59] kb1985 : For example I buy 1 BTC at x10 margin, but the price goes oppossite way. Can I protect myself by adding anothere BTC to it somehow?
[2016-12-06 16:44:16] lugo : you would ne lowering your average buy price thus lowering the liquidation price - in case of a long...
[2016-12-06 16:44:20] lugo : *be
[2016-12-06 16:45:17] mjones : eth stairway to heaven
[2016-12-06 16:46:15] kb1985 : so how to do this technically?
[2016-12-06 16:46:24] kb1985 : I am playing with small amounts of course just for test purposes now.
[2016-12-06 16:47:12] kb1985 : if I am shorting and I am about to get liqidated because ETH is going up. Do I need to transfer hte fresh BTC and add it somehwere?
[2016-12-06 16:47:41] rms : if everything is set to cross margin, and you deposit btc to your bitmex deposit address, your liquidation price will get better
[2016-12-06 16:48:03] rms : if you're not on cross margin and have multiple positions, you might want to try that to give yourself more room
[2016-12-06 16:48:13] kb1985 : I am just testing with small amount.
[2016-12-06 16:48:16] mjones : yeah kb1985
[2016-12-06 16:48:20] mjones : under positions
[2016-12-06 16:48:23] mjones : margin
[2016-12-06 16:48:33] Lord Rothschild : dont fuck with cross margin, you could end up loosing all you account. is not fun.
[2016-12-06 16:48:34] mjones : you'll see like a + or something
[2016-12-06 16:48:48] mjones : and you can add more BTC to your position to lower liquidation price
[2016-12-06 16:48:48] kb1985 : opened 0.1 BTC short on ETH. But it is about to close at 0.0097. If it happens to touch this price, what shoudl I do to protect it, if I beliuve the price will revert down anyway?
[2016-12-06 16:48:54] BitMEX_Wally : If you are on 10x you can adjust the leverage to 5x (if you have enough available margin) and that will move your liquidation price further away
[2016-12-06 16:50:29] Lord Rothschild : if you are a newbie start with small position and slowly add up more contracts when its green
[2016-12-06 16:50:31] kb1985 : And if I deccie to add another 0.1, how big protection will it give to me?
[2016-12-06 16:50:49] kb1985 : Yeah, I am a newbie and trying to learn on small amounts of course, not palying with big money.
[2016-12-06 16:51:11] BitMEX_Wally : kb1985: If you add 0.1 XBT then you can lose an extra 0.1 XBT
[2016-12-06 16:51:31] kb1985 : If I am about ot get liqiudated at 0.0097 with 0.1 on x10 margin, and I add another 0.1 to my margin positon, how much bigger will be the new liqidated price?
[2016-12-06 16:51:33] BitMEX_Wally : For example, If you have a position worth 0.5 XBT then it will move the liquidation price 20% further away
[2016-12-06 16:51:43] kb1985 : I understand.
[2016-12-06 16:52:19] kb1985 : Thank you.
[2016-12-06 16:53:18] kb1985 : And if the price goes back down to my price of entry I will get both my initail deposit and the new deposit back?
[2016-12-06 16:53:49] kb1985 : Good to learn on small amounts!
[2016-12-06 16:54:16] wurstgelee : etc's autorefill bot is back
[2016-12-06 16:54:19] wurstgelee : @ .001
[2016-12-06 16:54:26] wurstgelee : the one with unlimited funds
[2016-12-06 16:54:44] BitMEX_Wally : kb1985: Yes you can reset the leverage to 10x to get it back
[2016-12-06 17:01:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 4000 @ 0.009400
[2016-12-06 17:05:40] thomaskikansha : eth bouncing strongly
[2016-12-06 17:05:47] rms : short squeeze happening?
[2016-12-06 17:06:14] rms : don't see it as stable at this price, either we retrace or blow past .01
[2016-12-06 17:06:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3300 @ 0.009560
[2016-12-06 17:06:36] kb1985 : There is a whale on Polo toying with a price.
[2016-12-06 17:06:49] kb1985 : We don't know what his game is. But he is using 1000 BTC wall.
[2016-12-06 17:06:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 150 @ 0.009570