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[2016-12-05 19:21:26] rapidtrades : Shouldn't that be reserved for Charlie Sheen coin?
[2016-12-05 19:21:52] mjones : that's #WINNING
[2016-12-05 19:21:57] mjones : the coin is just WIN
[2016-12-05 19:22:02] mjones : it has already won
[2016-12-05 19:22:07] Tetsuo : Cap will be removed in 38m, then you will probably have 10 seconds to buy until the new cap get´s reached
[2016-12-05 19:22:30] mjones : i'm gonna market buy so fast. i'll be in instaprofit
[2016-12-05 19:22:54] rapidtrades : are we doing this stupid limit buy thing again?
[2016-12-05 19:23:13] Tetsuo : green users as always are privileged to buy
[2016-12-05 19:23:28] Tetsuo : we can buy 3s earlier
[2016-12-05 19:23:29] mjones : can shorts close above the limit, but longs cannot open?
[2016-12-05 19:24:14] Tetsuo : no
[2016-12-05 19:26:02] rapidtrades : ''In January 1990, Sheen accidentally shot his fiancée, Kelly Preston, in the arm''
[2016-12-05 19:26:02] mjones : is there a link to the announcement about WIN and the cap?
[2016-12-05 19:26:18] rapidtrades : accidentally ofc
[2016-12-05 19:26:37] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: Not yet. just in the email.
[2016-12-05 19:26:58] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: Details here about limit up / down: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/WIN
[2016-12-05 19:27:41] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: Watch werner herzog gettin shot durin an interview https://youtu.be/HrRNM9cMBDk?t=49s
[2016-12-05 19:28:27] Tetsuo : those things happen
[2016-12-05 19:28:32] mjones : looks good, thanks. looks like i wont be rich for a few 8 hour periods. assuming it keeps hitting the limit every 8 hours
[2016-12-05 19:29:06] Tetsuo : how many 8h periods until we reach 1 BTC?
[2016-12-05 19:29:23] mjones : T͚͔̪̙o̙̼̤ ̪͝ḭ̮͢n̹̦̺͍͜v͓̻̘͇͈̞o̧k̞͔͎̼̲̦e̛͈̬̫̜ ̡̲t̹̥͕͚̘͟h̖̪̲̥͞e̷̯͙̲̬̘ ̵̥̲hi̯͙̙̝v̟͇e҉-̀m̪̩i̭͉̰̘̼̣͜ń̜͍d̠̬̞͔̰͇͞ ..
[2016-12-05 19:29:26] mjones : not sure
[2016-12-05 19:29:44] mjones : Ṯ̮̜̥͙ơ̱̗̗̦ ̢̜̦͎̖͎̭i͖͙̝͓̮̙͜n͈v̨̟̟ǫ̯ke͙͕ ̟̟͓͙̖t̸̟͎̮̯h̩̰͖̖̙͈͟ͅe̹͔̻̮͟ͅ ̻̜h͕͍͖i̛̩v͍̮͔̺e̻̹͚̞͍̬-͢m̮̣̜̼͙̦̫i̺͙͈̳̣̺ͅn̪͚̼ḍ͎̮̜͝ ̹̥̬͕̕re̹̺̝̰̖̝͚p̖̟̺̘̞r̫̱e̸͇͓̠̖͇̙͈s̗̳̩ͅe̹̦͈̟̪̥͞ͅn̵̙̜ṯ͔̣͉̟i͘ṋ̶̜̪̳̘̤ǵ ̢̯̘c҉̻̘h̛a̺̤͎͟o̖̮͓͔̝̦s͙̯̗͕̱.̞̹̼̯͜ͅ ͍̲͍̪̪͎̀I̷̟̞̞͕n̵̺͕̠v͉̮̳̥̥̼̼ó͖͚ḱi͟n̪̜̥g̞ ̴͇̰̝̦̱̭t͙ḫ̶͖͇̮̻͕̺e̼̗̥̮̗͞ ̼͖̲̘͙f̢͔̘̪͓̯̠e̹̮͎̬̠e̗̖̺͍͖̩l͞i̥̞͚̯̠̙ͅn̠͡g̙͍̱̤ ̨o̼̼͚̩̝̫̣f̥͉̦̲͖̗́ ͓̳̙c̞̻̳̣̭h̦̯̱a̠͈̲̗̘͓͢o̴̩̞͕̥s͎̪̻.̲ ̛̰̱̱̖W̮̬͢i̯̗̺̖͎t̷̺̣h̹̬̠̝͈̲͇ ̖̳̟̩̼̜o̺ͅu͡ţ ̧o̩̣̱̣̩̞r̘͇̺̫͓͇d͝e̸̱r͔͔͈͓̫̻̀. ͠T̜͕͞ͅh̵͕͔e͢ ̶̻̺̣̻̱̰ͅNez̼̝̫p̵e̙̖̺̭̖͡r̫͓͕d̀i̖͇an̡̰͉̠ ̹̝̹̬͎̜͝ͅh͎͔̪̻̱͞i̠͇v҉ḙ̡̱̲̫̝-̮̙̣͈̝͇m̜̱̖̲̣i͚̥̫̺̩͙̹n͙͍͕̖̻d̦͙͜ ọ̟̬͍f̗̞͙̣͡ ͞c̫̦̭͉̩͢ha̞͞o͕̺̱͡s̝.̨̜̝͚̣ ̲̝̫̻̪̤Z͎a͙̥͕l̷̹̳͚̰͉̰̬g̬͍̠̬̯̩͇ó͉. ̱̟̩̬̰̤͚H҉̬̗e͓̭͉̝̙̝͝ ̹̼̲͎̣̦w̼͟h̳̘̹̮o ͝W͙̼̞̫̠̟a̳͉͙̞i̛͉t͓s̻̖͚͝ ͏͈̦̫ͅḄ͇e͕͝h̞͉͚͝i̷̥̣ṇ̬̙d҉̲̦͈̪̘̣ ̙̖͘T̨͈h̹̯͇̹̝̟ḛ̷͈̤̜ ̼̗̼͔͢W͍̙̻͓̕a̢͉̯̠̠̺̗̬l̵̠͎̠͕̮l͚̭͔̤͈̺.҉͕̟ ̵̤͉̻̝͓̤̖Z̴̹̩A̰̟̱͠L̖G͍͚̖̤̳̜͕Ò̻̱͓̠!͏̭̲
[2016-12-05 19:29:44] rapidtrades : i'll wait for 3
[2016-12-05 19:29:52] mjones : lol i'll stop
[2016-12-05 19:29:57] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: please refrain
[2016-12-05 19:30:27] RocketScience : Bitmex stands for freedom of expression :D
[2016-12-05 19:33:38] RocketScience : rogue sell wall on eth detected
[2016-12-05 19:35:36] rapidtrades : I don't get it, am I suppose to fomo buy WIN?
[2016-12-05 19:36:14] mjones : that's the only way to get in.
[2016-12-05 19:36:15] Tetsuo : Set Buy Stop @ 0.001640---> instaprofit
[2016-12-05 19:36:55] rapidtrades : u can barely get any volume tho
[2016-12-05 19:37:15] Tetsuo : u can short into the buy wall if you wan´t volume
[2016-12-05 19:37:19] rapidtrades : there's only 20 until next limit?
[2016-12-05 19:37:43] mjones : yeah. gonna be tough to get in
[2016-12-05 19:37:47] rapidtrades : that's $24 worth
[2016-12-05 19:38:01] rapidtrades : so total profit is $6
[2016-12-05 19:38:10] rapidtrades : for all of us
[2016-12-05 19:38:24] Tetsuo : i will buy a pack of cigarettes
[2016-12-05 19:38:38] mjones : 22 minutes till i fomo before all of you
[2016-12-05 19:38:39] rapidtrades : well u won't get it all asshole
[2016-12-05 19:38:50] Tetsuo : i set my buy stop long ago
[2016-12-05 19:38:56] Tetsuo : i´m first in queue
[2016-12-05 19:39:07] rapidtrades : buy stops are not first in
[2016-12-05 19:39:14] Tetsuo : yes they are
[2016-12-05 19:39:26] rapidtrades : are they? @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-12-05 19:39:28] Tetsuo : no probably not, youßre right
[2016-12-05 19:39:30] Tetsuo : damn
[2016-12-05 19:39:47] Tetsuo : i have 16GB RAM
[2016-12-05 19:39:49] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: I believe its based on time priority
[2016-12-05 19:40:04] rapidtrades : but they haven't been triggered yet
[2016-12-05 19:40:42] rapidtrades : f*ck this shit, I'm not fighting over $6
[2016-12-05 19:41:06] Tetsuo : 1 contract might soon be worth 10 BTC u fool
[2016-12-05 19:41:21] rapidtrades : actually that 0.001998 ask is within the next limit
[2016-12-05 19:41:58] rapidtrades : wat
[2016-12-05 19:42:25] rapidtrades : stop f*cking around sleger
[2016-12-05 19:42:27] zanza : wow ETH getting smashed. ETC holding up
[2016-12-05 19:43:11] rapidtrades : sleger put a 25k ask on WIN to f*Ck with us
[2016-12-05 19:44:02] Tetsuo : if his computer breaks down before cap gets released he will get rekt brutally
[2016-12-05 19:44:18] Tetsuo : someone hack him
[2016-12-05 19:44:20] rapidtrades : god plz one time
[2016-12-05 19:44:42] rapidtrades : he can live in one of his 50 apartments, he will be fine
[2016-12-05 19:44:48] rapidtrades : doesn't need bitcoins
[2016-12-05 19:45:07] mjones : there we go. 15 minutes till i eat that wall
[2016-12-05 19:45:15] mjones : ETCWIN FTW
[2016-12-05 19:45:22] rapidtrades : he's gonna pull it last minute
[2016-12-05 19:46:01] RocketScience : Buy the winner
[2016-12-05 19:46:05] mjones : who is shorting
[2016-12-05 19:48:01] mjones : ETCWIN is big in china. our chinese friends will push it to the moon once cap is removed
[2016-12-05 19:48:21] rapidtrades : can confirm
[2016-12-05 19:48:27] Tetsuo : +1
[2016-12-05 19:48:37] sleger : guys stop talking about that ask you will scare it
[2016-12-05 19:49:04] Tetsuo : maybe trollboxer asked his mother for some fresh money?
[2016-12-05 19:49:08] wurstgelee : 1 month from now, rapidtrades will be bagholding ETCwin @ 3 btc
[2016-12-05 19:49:10] rapidtrades : I googled ETCwin and all I could find was some weird chinese 限价了限价了限价了限价了
[2016-12-05 19:49:22] Tetsuo : etcwin.com
[2016-12-05 19:49:32] sleger : house nose house nose thats what its saying
[2016-12-05 19:49:41] wurstgelee : i agree
[2016-12-05 19:50:10] rapidtrades : sleger: it's code for 'it's as good of an investment as a house'
[2016-12-05 19:50:15] rapidtrades : an old chinese saying
[2016-12-05 19:50:43] sleger : that or house smells bad we need house that smells good
[2016-12-05 19:50:56] Tetsuo : "The key to success" in a red frame on their homepage , holy shit
[2016-12-05 19:51:01] Tetsuo : they´re up to something
[2016-12-05 19:51:16] rapidtrades : on to greatness?
[2016-12-05 19:51:23] wurstgelee : is there some english info available?
[2016-12-05 19:51:27] rapidtrades : are we looking at ZEC 2.0?
[2016-12-05 19:51:29] wurstgelee : about etcwin?
[2016-12-05 19:51:32] RocketScience : http://etcwin.com/html/index.html
[2016-12-05 19:51:35] Tetsuo : I´m so fukkin glad that this 10 BTC cap got lifted up to 100
[2016-12-05 19:51:40] RocketScience : english
[2016-12-05 19:51:56] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: it's the key to success, what more do u need?
[2016-12-05 19:53:03] wurstgelee : my current total position size here is a small house atm
[2016-12-05 19:53:13] wurstgelee : i dont need another position
[2016-12-05 19:53:17] XXXX : So ETCwin was an ico raised on etc. What is the narketcap at current price. It looks expensive already. Dont be a bagholder. Dont buy if you dont know t it is.
[2016-12-05 19:53:53] RocketScience : 1 million etc fundng
[2016-12-05 19:53:54] rapidtrades : stay out and miss buying the key to success? doesn't seem very smart
[2016-12-05 19:54:06] RocketScience : 1 mil * 0.001btc/eth=?
[2016-12-05 19:54:23] rapidtrades : 1mil ETH, what's that $5 dollars?
[2016-12-05 19:54:45] mjones : i long etcwin now, ask questions later
[2016-12-05 19:55:15] rapidtrades : so they raised 7mil already? sounds like good investment
[2016-12-05 19:56:53] XXXX : 1 million etc = 1000 btc. So thats what was raised in the ico.
[2016-12-05 19:58:05] rapidtrades : no it's 9,280 btc
[2016-12-05 19:58:19] habibi : rapidtrades: etc my friend, etc
[2016-12-05 19:58:33] rapidtrades : aaaah
[2016-12-05 19:58:36] rapidtrades : right
[2016-12-05 19:58:56] rapidtrades : an even better investment then
[2016-12-05 19:58:59] imabeast : wurstgelee: u long on etcwin?
[2016-12-05 19:59:13] wurstgelee : imabeast: ignored it so far
[2016-12-05 19:59:13] mjones : dang the wall is gone.
[2016-12-05 19:59:16] XXXX : How many etcwin in total?
[2016-12-05 19:59:29] rapidtrades : no shit the wall is gone lol
[2016-12-05 19:59:33] rapidtrades : told u sleger will pull it last minute
[2016-12-05 19:59:44] Tetsuo : chandler guo is on board
[2016-12-05 20:00:04] Tetsuo : go
[2016-12-05 20:00:11] Tetsuo : DAMN
[2016-12-05 20:00:13] mjones : fuck got 0
[2016-12-05 20:00:13] imabeast : holy shit
[2016-12-05 20:00:14] Tetsuo : i got none
[2016-12-05 20:00:20] RocketScience : none
[2016-12-05 20:00:24] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-12-05 20:00:27] rapidtrades : none either
[2016-12-05 20:00:29] mjones : trading was suspended and when it came back it was too late
[2016-12-05 20:00:39] wurstgelee : i am laughing and almost choked on my popcorn
[2016-12-05 20:01:18] XXXX : How many etcwin in total? Want to know the marketcap at current price
[2016-12-05 20:01:20] mjones : see you all in 8 hours for the next try
[2016-12-05 20:01:29] rapidtrades : this is dumb
[2016-12-05 20:01:36] QuantFocus : what's happening
[2016-12-05 20:01:36] imabeast : trading is closed for it?
[2016-12-05 20:01:49] imabeast : ah shit this is like zec then lmao
[2016-12-05 20:01:52] QuantFocus : is this like the zec thing?
[2016-12-05 20:01:57] QuantFocus : win?
[2016-12-05 20:01:57] mjones : yeah
[2016-12-05 20:02:00] Tetsuo : took 3 seconds
[2016-12-05 20:02:07] wurstgelee : no. its an ico
[2016-12-05 20:02:08] QuantFocus : which token?
[2016-12-05 20:02:11] wurstgelee : completely different
[2016-12-05 20:02:25] wurstgelee : supply available at once
[2016-12-05 20:02:26] rapidtrades : it's so different
[2016-12-05 20:02:38] wurstgelee : no 3300 btc per ETCwin
[2016-12-05 20:02:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-12-05 20:02:54] wurstgelee : and yes, thats fundamentally different
[2016-12-05 20:03:01] rapidtrades : don't jinx it sausage
[2016-12-05 20:03:17] wurstgelee : there wont be a ZEC-style pump
[2016-12-05 20:03:20] wurstgelee : not even close
[2016-12-05 20:03:52] wurstgelee : no scarcity, no pump madness, almost always
[2016-12-05 20:03:54] XXXX : : How many etcwin in total? Want to know the marketcap at current price
[2016-12-05 20:04:12] rapidtrades : 1000000
[2016-12-05 20:04:25] Tetsuo : with ETCWIN and BTCC about to add ETC this , the eternal true coin will shine soon
[2016-12-05 20:04:33] QuantFocus : so is ETH really ded?
[2016-12-05 20:04:34] wurstgelee : 1m ETCwin cap?
[2016-12-05 20:04:34] rapidtrades : +!
[2016-12-05 20:04:37] Tetsuo : XXXX: 50000
[2016-12-05 20:04:56] rapidtrades : so buy ETC as proxy?
[2016-12-05 20:05:27] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-12-05 20:05:45] Tetsuo : can i participate in the ETCWIN ICO anywhere else?
[2016-12-05 20:06:16] rapidtrades : yes I'm authorized ETCWIN seller
[2016-12-05 20:06:24] XXXX : I think there are 100 million etcwin. So narketcap is 150 million usd. Ha ha. Good luck with that
[2016-12-05 20:06:24] rapidtrades : please send monies to my bitcoin address
[2016-12-05 20:06:53] Tetsuo : it says unstoppable http://etcwin.com/html/20160927-2.html
[2016-12-05 20:07:07] rapidtrades : damn
[2016-12-05 20:07:23] rapidtrades : well if it says that it must be true
[2016-12-05 20:07:32] RocketScience : there is 1 million etcwin, because 1 etc invested=1 etc win created
[2016-12-05 20:08:06] wurstgelee : so much win
[2016-12-05 20:08:07] rapidtrades : but it's already worth 2x etc
[2016-12-05 20:08:11] rapidtrades : how does it work
[2016-12-05 20:08:17] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: oh rly? oO
[2016-12-05 20:08:25] wurstgelee : keep buying it up tho....
[2016-12-05 20:08:53] wurstgelee : at this point, it would make more sense to put money in the ico which is still running
[2016-12-05 20:08:58] wurstgelee : than longing here....
[2016-12-05 20:09:17] rapidtrades : well if that's 1 to 1 then yeah
[2016-12-05 20:09:23] XXXX : wurstgelee: +100
[2016-12-05 20:10:00] rapidtrades : where's the ICO
[2016-12-05 20:10:10] Tetsuo : i´ll tell you for 5 BTC
[2016-12-05 20:10:53] XXXX : You can buy the actual etcwin by participating in the ico at 0.001 btc. Who are the fools buying it here at twice that price?
[2016-12-05 20:12:21] Tetsuo : only people with chinese passports can participate in the actual ICO
[2016-12-05 20:12:42] Tetsuo : PBOC is behind ETCWIN
[2016-12-05 20:17:10] kb1985 : Hi guys, I am trying to understand how ETH 7 days contract works. For example i take 1 BTC and bet that it will go up (or down) and I can use this 1 BTC but buy/sell ETH worth 33 BTC, right? And if I make a mistake and chose wrong direction, this 1 BTC gets taken away, otherwise I profit as if I have used 33 BT, right? But the question is, can this 1 BTC be taken along the way because of price fluctuations or what interests me is only the price on Fridays and not along the way?
[2016-12-05 20:18:19] Tetsuo : price fluctuations matter
[2016-12-05 20:18:26] rapidtrades : yes u can get taken out by price fluctuations
[2016-12-05 20:18:31] mjones : if you bet 1 BTC price goes up and before friday the price goes down far enough to where you liquidation price is, then you lose the 1 BTC and your position is closed
[2016-12-05 20:18:43] XXXX : Along the way. If eth price moves 3% against ur position you lose 1 btc.
[2016-12-05 20:19:04] Tetsuo : 4 helpful posts in a row, this must be a new record
[2016-12-05 20:19:22] sleger : not really
[2016-12-05 20:19:24] sleger : XXXX is wrong
[2016-12-05 20:19:31] sleger : XXXX: 3% comes from where ?
[2016-12-05 20:19:50] kb1985 : So what's the importance of Friday day?
[2016-12-05 20:19:56] XXXX : sleger: if he is using 33× margin
[2016-12-05 20:20:02] sleger : XXXX: ok and ?
[2016-12-05 20:20:14] Tetsuo : kb1985: Friday is in most countries the last day before weekend starts
[2016-12-05 20:20:24] kb1985 : Oh, that's interesting. Thank you aill!
[2016-12-05 20:20:36] sleger : Tetsuo: you taught him something great !
[2016-12-05 20:20:56] XXXX : sleger: 33 x 3 = 100%
[2016-12-05 20:21:17] habibi : XXXX: maintance margin
[2016-12-05 20:21:42] sleger : exactly
[2016-12-05 20:21:48] mjones : friday is when all positions are closed and you can open a new one if you want kb1985
[2016-12-05 20:22:17] kb1985 : And what it I am in profit before Friday? Can I close my position not to risk it anymore?
[2016-12-05 20:22:38] laisee : yes, indeedy
[2016-12-05 20:22:47] kb1985 : Seems like a very dangerous game, even small price change can take all the BTC. :D
[2016-12-05 20:23:43] thiago : even 4 :)
[2016-12-05 20:23:57] XXXX : kb1985: dont use 33x margin. Use 2x or even 5x. But no more unless you are certain of the trend.
[2016-12-05 20:24:03] laisee : risk * X == reward * X. choose X that suits you
[2016-12-05 20:24:39] Tetsuo : if you´re good at TA always use max. leverage ---> max profit
[2016-12-05 20:24:51] sleger : XXXX: you could at least acknowledge your mistake
[2016-12-05 20:26:15] XXXX : sleger: what mistake? If i go long ether at 33x margin and have 1 btc to play with what is my liquidation price? Is it not 3% of the eth price?
[2016-12-05 20:26:26] sleger : XXXX: no
[2016-12-05 20:26:38] sleger : like habibi told you : maintenance margin
[2016-12-05 20:27:20] XXXX : sleger: tell me the % ?
[2016-12-05 20:28:52] XXXX : sleger: I never go max margin. 5x max in btc. 3x max in eth. so my analysis is good enough for me.
[2016-12-05 20:29:56] mjones : 2% move gets you rekt on 33.3x if my math is correct
[2016-12-05 20:30:25] mjones : long 0.00925 and rekt at 0.00907
[2016-12-05 20:30:43] mjones : eh dont listen to me. i think that's for 25x
[2016-12-05 20:31:18] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ETH7D Maint. Margin 1.50% + Exit Taker Fee
[2016-12-05 20:32:37] sleger : XXXX: it's good enough for you but you're wrong by a factor > 2x so you should keep your math for yourself then ;)
[2016-12-05 20:34:05] XXXX : sleger: I have been shorting ether since last few months at 3x margin and i keep in mind that i am good till ether price rises by 33%. Works for me. Maybe not good enough for the extreme thrill seekers at 33x margin.
[2016-12-05 20:35:28] kb1985 : Oh, now I get it - on Friday the contract is forced to close automatically.
[2016-12-05 20:35:31] m3s : howcome price almost doesnt move on bitmex swap when OKCoin moves say 20 CNY ?
[2016-12-05 20:36:40] XXXX : m3s: lack of liquidity
[2016-12-05 20:37:22] kb1985 : Trying to undarstand one more thing - how to calculate liquidation price. Let's say I would like to use 1 BTC to sell ETH at x5 rate. At current prices it would be about 0.0092 ETH/BTC. How high would need the price to go for me to start losing money?
[2016-12-05 20:37:43] kb1985 : Not that I am planning to do this, definitely won't be experimentying with whole BTC, but trying to understand this and how people know it.
[2016-12-05 20:39:55] sleger : XXXX: please stop giving wrong advice
[2016-12-05 20:40:24] sleger : m3s: the swap index is 50% bitstamp, 50% okc0in usd, does not depend on cny prices
[2016-12-05 20:40:49] sleger : only green people are allowed to give advice from now on
[2016-12-05 20:41:10] rapidtrades : tnx for the trust sleger
[2016-12-05 20:41:37] m3s : thanks sleger
[2016-12-05 20:41:39] sleger : habibi is green as well..
[2016-12-05 20:41:45] XXXX : sleger: still better than yours. I know you got mega rekt on zec futures. Thanks for the btcs by the way
[2016-12-05 20:41:48] rapidtrades : BUY ZEC BUY BUY BUY
[2016-12-05 20:41:53] rapidtrades : that's my advice ^
[2016-12-05 20:42:35] sleger : XXXX: just admit you were wrong, and take the opportunity to learn. No need to become agressive
[2016-12-05 20:42:43] sleger : and zec mega rekt was trollboxer
[2016-12-05 20:43:21] XXXX : sleger: i am talking pre launch zec. Just admit it like a man.
[2016-12-05 20:44:10] sleger : sure. however not sure is why you are bringing this up
[2016-12-05 20:44:15] habibi : XXXX: there's nothing to admit, he did in past and never reverse that words so whats ur problem :(?
[2016-12-05 20:45:18] sleger : when i saw it was going to go higher i put it in margin to let it liquidated as exiting would have cost me more slippage. Nothing wrong with that.
[2016-12-05 20:45:56] j8 : it's a tactical liquidation
[2016-12-05 20:45:59] XXXX : habibi: are you his bitch?
[2016-12-05 20:46:11] laisee : no slippage during liquidations?
[2016-12-05 20:46:28] habibi : XXXX: if u want to attack him just do it in right way, otherwise u are end up as an idiot
[2016-12-05 20:46:36] granathus : must be slippage in liquidation too
[2016-12-05 20:47:15] j8 : your slippage in liquidation is predefined, you lose your maintenance margin. that might be better than what's available on the orderbook
[2016-12-05 20:47:16] sleger : laisee: when you go on isolated margin you commit to a max collateral so you cant lose more than that no matter at what price the liq is executed (or ADL'ed)
[2016-12-05 20:47:53] laisee : sleger: ofc. but that is not the question
[2016-12-05 20:47:57] granathus : yeah, but liquidation algorithm takes that into account, not like bitmex takes a loss on liquidations
[2016-12-05 20:48:34] sleger : laisee: however i did answer, and so did j8
[2016-12-05 20:48:45] XXXX : habibi: this is trollbox. Every one here is idiot. If anyone thinks otherwise then he s a megaidiot
[2016-12-05 20:49:16] sleger : granathus: bitmex doesnt take a loss, however other users did get less profits because I triggered a liq vs existing at market
[2016-12-05 20:49:46] laisee : sleger: u didn't answer my question. forced liquidation incurs more or less slippage than closing out your own position over time?
[2016-12-05 20:49:50] j8 : zec has maintenance margin of 25%, and it was trading with more than 50% spread. it makes a lot of sense
[2016-12-05 20:49:58] habibi : XXXX: yea but u are the one that is lowering SMA of level at this trollbox
[2016-12-05 20:50:01] sleger : laisee: it depends... on liquidity
[2016-12-05 20:50:39] laisee : for any level of liquidity, it should be better
[2016-12-05 20:50:56] wurstgelee : nice dumping ZEC
[2016-12-05 20:51:18] laisee : wurstgelee: almost time to buy agin
[2016-12-05 20:51:22] sleger : laisee: the fact that insurance fund increases tells you otherwise
[2016-12-05 20:51:32] wurstgelee : laisee: not yet i figure. still short ;)
[2016-12-05 20:52:04] laisee : sleger: good point, if we know the level of the fund.
[2016-12-05 20:52:20] sleger : laisee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2016-12-05 20:52:30] sleger : unless you are talking about one specific instrument
[2016-12-05 20:52:35] sleger : but in general this is the case
[2016-12-05 20:52:37] laisee : yes
[2016-12-05 20:53:40] j8 : any time someone gets ADL'd, that means their counterparties got a better exit than they would have on the orderbook
[2016-12-05 20:54:21] sleger : getting ADL'ed is winning
[2016-12-05 20:54:29] sleger : well, getting other people ADL'ed is
[2016-12-05 20:54:43] wurstgelee : thats losing
[2016-12-05 20:54:50] laisee : winning by losing less ....
[2016-12-05 20:55:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `WINZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.002042
[2016-12-05 20:55:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `WINZ16`: Buy 100 @ 0.002042
[2016-12-05 20:55:09] wurstgelee : i prefer plain winning
[2016-12-05 20:55:33] laisee : then u could win even more by ADL yourself though closing position in chunks
[2016-12-05 20:55:45] wurstgelee : yes ofc, i like adl
[2016-12-05 20:55:54] wurstgelee : who doesnt?
[2016-12-05 20:56:11] laisee : its limit up trading for the forgetful
[2016-12-05 20:56:20] j8 : i really like the fact that we don't have open liquidations sitting around for up to a week
[2016-12-05 20:56:42] sleger : yes, ala bitvc
[2016-12-05 20:56:49] mjones : WIN rekt
[2016-12-05 20:56:55] laisee : yup. old liquidations suck.
[2016-12-05 20:57:06] j8 : and the fact that unrealized pnl is immediately used as margin, makes cross margin work properly
[2016-12-05 20:57:34] laisee : speaking of which ... AIG is still doing business somehow, even in Asia. .
[2016-12-05 20:58:51] thiago : wtf is happening at " ...etcwin"??
[2016-12-05 20:59:01] j8 : it's stuck on the session limit up
[2016-12-05 20:59:17] Tetsuo : i thought limit up was 0.002
[2016-12-05 20:59:35] j8 : maybe last session it was
[2016-12-05 20:59:35] mjones : eth dump part 110
[2016-12-05 21:00:18] thiago : session limit? why we need that?
[2016-12-05 21:00:43] Tetsuo : thiago: everyone should get a (small) chance before it goes to 100 BTC
[2016-12-05 21:00:50] j8 : it's marked to last price, it's brand new, there's no spot market
[2016-12-05 21:00:53] habibi : thiago: to prevent manipulations, liq both sides of trade within 1 minute and stuff like that
[2016-12-05 21:05:33] thiago : prevent manipulation,,, I guess the mods didnt read wolong's book . . . . .
[2016-12-05 21:06:55] Tetsuo : wolong only pumped and dumped spot, no liqs there
[2016-12-05 21:07:53] laisee : rapidtrades: WIN == eye of the tiger blood coin or SHT coins?
[2016-12-05 21:08:33] Tetsuo : ETC = Eye of the Tiger Coin
[2016-12-05 21:09:08] laisee : Tetsuo: +1000
[2016-12-05 21:10:20] Tetsuo : After God realised that he failed the first the by creating Adam&Eve he gave it a second chance with ETC
[2016-12-05 21:10:46] CaptainDean : and added WIN in front of it ... marketing 101
[2016-12-05 21:10:56] laisee : EVE got forked
[2016-12-05 21:10:59] CaptainDean : at the end of it**
[2016-12-05 21:11:23] Tetsuo : laisee: lol
[2016-12-05 21:12:04] laisee : sersly - WIN? cant even find it on SHT exchange like POLO.
[2016-12-05 21:12:54] habibi : laisee: srlrsly
[2016-12-05 21:13:45] laisee : crypto has jumped the SHRK ... good name for a coin
[2016-12-05 21:13:50] thiago : shitmex greg: can you list ARC tokens too? i bought too and want to get rich too
[2016-12-05 21:14:24] laisee : My SHRK coins are hungry for some whale food.
[2016-12-05 21:15:24] Tetsuo : thiago: hasn´t noahs arc sunken? i don´t know , i got bored after a few pages
[2016-12-05 21:16:29] Tetsuo : i just read that it got stuck on top of a mountain, lol
[2016-12-05 21:16:31] Tetsuo : i might buy some too
[2016-12-05 21:16:38] laisee : yeh, 2 many dumb creatures onboard
[2016-12-05 21:17:02] thiago : you can buy some at ethdelta. and, nowhere else
[2016-12-05 21:18:30] arbitrage001 : where is the index price for etcwin derive from?
[2016-12-05 21:18:39] Tetsuo : ETH/ETC parity @ ~0.004 within 2 months?
[2016-12-05 21:18:44] BitMEX_Sam : arbitrage001: It's the ETC parity price
[2016-12-05 21:19:01] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: parity price from?
[2016-12-05 21:19:10] BitMEX_Sam : As in, parity with the value of ETC
[2016-12-05 21:19:19] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: ok thank you
[2016-12-05 21:20:36] laisee : ETH has some ways to FALL by the looks of it
[2016-12-05 21:20:55] Tetsuo : 30k sell wall@ETH@POLO
[2016-12-05 21:22:08] arbitrage001 : so much confusion now on eth
[2016-12-05 21:22:34] arbitrage001 : parents having too many chilren
[2016-12-05 21:25:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2500 @ 0.009050
[2016-12-05 21:27:52] mjones : eth longs gonna get mega rekt
[2016-12-05 21:28:16] arbitrage001 : so is every other coin eventually
[2016-12-05 21:28:22] arbitrage001 : including btc
[2016-12-05 21:30:45] Tetsuo : Open the Gates of hell, ETH is knocking
[2016-12-05 21:31:56] Tetsuo : ETH clearly is scared shitless by the arrival of ETCWIN!
[2016-12-05 21:33:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1500 @ 0.008900
[2016-12-05 21:33:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.008900
[2016-12-05 21:33:08] thiago : lol
[2016-12-05 21:34:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.008860
[2016-12-05 21:34:35] wurstgelee : mewn me btc
[2016-12-05 21:34:39] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-12-05 21:35:19] Sasukeevil : last time I wanted to long eth and got ass whipping
[2016-12-05 21:36:10] Spofas : BitMEX_Sam: are you guys pulling up the limitup on etcwin?
[2016-12-05 21:36:11] mjones : and it's always nice when the market maker leaves so you cant exit that long
[2016-12-05 21:36:13] BitMEX_Sam : New feature just hit production: tables are now sortable: http://i.imgur.com/2yEcba0.png
[2016-12-05 21:36:27] BitMEX_Greg : Spofas: The limitup is reset every 8 hours
[2016-12-05 21:36:35] BitMEX_Sam : That's 12:00, 20:00, and 4:00 UTC
[2016-12-05 21:36:59] rapidtrades : wow ETH below 0.09
[2016-12-05 21:37:35] Spofas : Alright thanks
[2016-12-05 21:39:22] sleger : one 3000btc market buy brings it back to 0.02
[2016-12-05 21:39:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 41 @ 0.008720
[2016-12-05 21:40:12] Tetsuo : sleger: a 3000 BTC market buy on Stamp might also bring it to 10000$, plz don´t use troll logic!
[2016-12-05 21:40:26] sleger : obv i wasnt serious
[2016-12-05 21:40:34] Tetsuo : i know
[2016-12-05 21:40:39] sleger : oh :o
[2016-12-05 21:41:30] Tetsuo : 0.0088 might hold for a while
[2016-12-05 21:41:36] Tetsuo : not that i´m buyin
[2016-12-05 21:41:59] wurstgelee : .007 maybe
[2016-12-05 21:45:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 321 @ 0.008590
[2016-12-05 21:48:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 120 @ 0.008700
[2016-12-05 21:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.008770
[2016-12-05 21:49:26] Mm bot : Liquidate ETH short? They like to short bottom
[2016-12-05 21:49:33] mjones : lol
[2016-12-05 21:49:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 24 @ 0.008860
[2016-12-05 21:50:15] sleger : you have to really try to get a short liquidated !
[2016-12-05 21:50:40] Mm bot : I know, that green dildo did it for ETH
[2016-12-05 21:50:43] Tetsuo : sleger: are u short (hedged)
[2016-12-05 21:50:54] mjones : i longed into that 0.008590 margin call wall. #winning
[2016-12-05 21:51:01] sleger : no im long
[2016-12-05 21:51:14] Mm bot : Strength of bounce looks good
[2016-12-05 21:52:36] Mm bot : ETH closing short position
[2016-12-05 21:52:56] Tetsuo : sleger: margin long?
[2016-12-05 21:53:01] sleger : no
[2016-12-05 21:53:08] sleger : bagholder
[2016-12-05 21:53:14] Tetsuo : that´s ok
[2016-12-05 21:55:57] MrRGnome : sleger: where you holding from if you don't mind sharing? I almost got caught - rather did get caught, bag holding from 0.018, but I traded my way out in profit at ~0.014 and haven't touched the meth since, until today.
[2016-12-05 21:56:29] mjones : zec bouncing
[2016-12-05 21:56:59] sleger : MrRGnome: my avg buy in price was 0.014, but i sold 25% at 0.013 and bought those back at 0.009 so around 0.013
[2016-12-05 21:58:07] MrRGnome : well good luck, it's a crappy position to have to dig out of but I'm sure you'll pull it out.
[2016-12-05 21:58:14] thiago : how the f should i guesstimate is already the bottom geez smudger
[2016-12-05 21:58:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.008870
[2016-12-05 21:58:58] Tetsuo : ok, i´m watchin the final episode of Westworld now, if you don´t wan´t any spoilers in an hour send 5 BTC to my adress thx
[2016-12-05 21:59:10] sleger : MrRGnome: it's a long term position and i only invested money i can afford to lose
[2016-12-05 21:59:19] m3s : thoughts on stamp crowdfunding? cant raise real VC money or just giving an opportunity to the people ?
[2016-12-05 21:59:20] thiago : they are all fucking robots?
[2016-12-05 21:59:36] Tetsuo : thiago: Bernard is one
[2016-12-05 21:59:50] MrRGnome : m3s: 2% for over a million dollars is a nuts evaluation IMO.
[2016-12-05 22:00:05] BitMEX_Sam : It's not that far off tbh
[2016-12-05 22:00:19] BitMEX_Sam : They've done 12B volume (according to their own metrics), which is about 40M in rev
[2016-12-05 22:00:19] Tetsuo : m3s: stamp crowdfunding? plz share link
[2016-12-05 22:00:22] thiago : I both liquidated a short and a long in less than 2 minutes.. thats nice
[2016-12-05 22:00:33] m3s : 60m$ is not uncommon for a VC backed startup making money
[2016-12-05 22:00:34] MrRGnome : They are saying they are worth 50 million for no preferred shares that yield no dividend. No thanks.
[2016-12-05 22:00:55] BitMEX_Sam : Of course, you absolutely invest at your own risk on a barely-vetted web platform where you can't even get financials
[2016-12-05 22:01:06] BitMEX_Sam : But STMP's valuation is far more grounded in reality than BFX's
[2016-12-05 22:01:09] Tetsuo : Stamp is by far the most reliable exchange in Europe
[2016-12-05 22:01:14] ytaews : careful @BitMEX_Sam you might want to sell equity too one day
[2016-12-05 22:01:30] ytaews : :P
[2016-12-05 22:01:41] BitMEX_Sam : I don't agree with selling stock to the general public based on a slide deck and a few videos
[2016-12-05 22:01:56] MrRGnome : I would be more inclined to invest in stamp if they provided complete transparency of their financials and were asking for half as much money.
[2016-12-05 22:02:12] m3s : there is an investor page that may show more info but isnt open to everyone
[2016-12-05 22:02:42] ytaews : Ya sorry I was just playing
[2016-12-05 22:03:53] m3s : if someone were to ask you guys if you would want to buy shares of the LSE in 1705, would you do it ? its all relative
[2016-12-05 22:04:39] Tetsuo : thiago: i watched the new Brazil Netflix series "3%", wasn´t very impressed, plot was mostly stolen from other movies. Actors were okay though
[2016-12-05 22:06:58] thiago : Im glad you enjoyed. To be honest I, really, cant stand tv here. I listen to Joe Rogan podcast all day and my parents are from argentina.. so.. . . .
[2016-12-05 22:07:40] m3s : Rogan still going strong with Tom Pappa
[2016-12-05 22:07:43] Tetsuo : Wagner Moura was in great in Narcos
[2016-12-05 22:08:12] Tetsuo : one of the best acting in series the last 1-2 years
[2016-12-05 22:08:35] Lord Rothschild : gonna watch that
[2016-12-05 22:08:38] cookielito : Is there any way to display the cost rate ?
[2016-12-05 22:08:51] arbitrage001 : Tetsuo: westworld only has 1 season?
[2016-12-05 22:08:55] cookielito : it appears to be FIFO
[2016-12-05 22:09:01] Tetsuo : arbitrage001: so far, yes
[2016-12-05 22:09:03] thiago : arbitrage001: +1
[2016-12-05 22:09:04] arbitrage001 : all the main characters die?
[2016-12-05 22:09:08] Tetsuo : ok, i´m goin now, see u later
[2016-12-05 22:09:20] thiago : wtf is the first episode all about btw...
[2016-12-05 22:09:39] arbitrage001 : thiago: human nature and artificial intellligent
[2016-12-05 22:11:03] thiago : I meant.. first episode is in the 70s.. then.. ultra futuristic..
[2016-12-05 22:12:55] sleger : i think they have guests from the future that go into some artificial reality in the past
[2016-12-05 22:13:01] sleger : thought it was clear in episode 1
[2016-12-05 22:13:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.009080
[2016-12-05 22:16:23] mjones : my only regret is not longing moar eth
[2016-12-05 22:18:16] JamesPolo : Long or short btc?
[2016-12-05 22:19:55] Tetsuo : thiago: 70`s you do realiz that the western is more like 1870 , how old are you ? you do realize that we already had cars in 1970 and no more horses
[2016-12-05 22:20:05] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-12-05 22:20:24] mjones : JamesPolo: long of course. when to long is the question
[2016-12-05 22:25:05] thiago : Tetsuo: for f ucks sake... im talking about the big old tube tvs and crazy hair from first episode.. the tourists were from the 70s, or Im dreaming that shit up?
[2016-12-05 22:26:03] thiago : the ridiculous control panel from the apollo landing and shit
[2016-12-05 22:28:05] mjones : btc heading south for the winter.
[2016-12-05 22:28:09] mjones : back to $400
[2016-12-05 22:28:28] imabeast : btc hit 775 then drop please
[2016-12-05 22:29:56] mjones : 5 1/2 hours till we try to long ETCWIN again
[2016-12-05 22:30:09] mjones : and a lucky person gets ADL
[2016-12-05 22:33:20] arbitrage001 : mjones: any clue why some people short?
[2016-12-05 22:33:43] mjones : because they short now, ask questions later
[2016-12-05 22:34:07] mjones : ICO price is 0.001 so it's already double the price on here.
[2016-12-05 22:34:10] arbitrage001 : so it is going to 100btc cap this time?
[2016-12-05 22:34:27] mjones : if polo adds ETCWIN it will most likely tank. it's a China coin
[2016-12-05 22:34:33] mjones : so we'll see if BTCC adds it or what is up
[2016-12-05 22:34:49] mjones : which may mean good things for ETC
[2016-12-05 22:35:53] j8 : arbitrage001: it won't be at 100btc any time soon with limit up 25% per 8 hours
[2016-12-05 22:36:23] arbitrage001 : j8: exponent 25% can go up very fast
[2016-12-05 22:36:32] zanza : dat red candle @ ETH
[2016-12-05 22:36:32] mjones : the game is long it and get out when ADL kicks in.
[2016-12-05 22:36:39] arbitrage001 : when will polo list it?
[2016-12-05 22:37:14] j8 : arbitrage001: 8 hours is a long time to prop up an unreasonable price
[2016-12-05 22:37:40] zanza : last chance to buy discounted ETH
[2016-12-05 22:37:42] zanza : load up
[2016-12-05 22:37:43] arbitrage001 : j8: will be interesting to watch how things unfold this time
[2016-12-05 22:38:00] mjones : zanza: dont trick the noobs here like that. they'll get rekt when megabear whale shows up again
[2016-12-05 22:38:02] Tetsuo : thiago: i can´t remember any 70´s aesthetics in the first episode. Maybe you watch the 1973 movie? :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld
[2016-12-05 22:38:16] zanza : :o
[2016-12-05 22:38:22] j8 : yeah, well it's a different story since there will be a million units right away @arbitrage001
[2016-12-05 22:44:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 11 @ 0.008980
[2016-12-05 22:49:52] mjones : bagholders still trying to sell into any bounce in eth
[2016-12-05 22:53:05] zanza : RIP ETH
[2016-12-05 22:54:06] arbitrage001 : sentiment is extremely bad
[2016-12-05 22:54:16] arbitrage001 : too many forks lol
[2016-12-05 22:54:26] CaptainDean : ETH will bounce back
[2016-12-05 22:54:27] mjones : the guts it took to buy 0.02 and 0.03 and 0.035 in ETH after it was at 0.001
[2016-12-05 22:55:15] arbitrage001 : CaptainDean: they need to have something to show for
[2016-12-05 22:55:23] arbitrage001 : a useful application
[2016-12-05 22:55:28] arbitrage001 : to restore faith
[2016-12-05 22:55:48] arbitrage001 : otherwise, i dont see how it can stop going down
[2016-12-05 22:55:59] CaptainDean : faith is big word, more like a whale crashing the price big time
[2016-12-05 22:56:26] arbitrage001 : all crypto coins operate on faith
[2016-12-05 22:56:44] arbitrage001 : the new religion
[2016-12-05 22:57:16] CaptainDean : this is what makes people do bad trading imo :P
[2016-12-05 22:57:16] Tetsuo : faith and exchanges , black markets, devs using inside infos to P&D
[2016-12-05 23:00:08] mjones : 5300 CNY falling
[2016-12-05 23:00:53] mjones : what's everyones favorite reddit to visit?
[2016-12-05 23:01:36] lopol : if i change my risk limit back and forth why does my withdrawable balance adjust with it?
[2016-12-05 23:01:49] lopol : doensn't*
[2016-12-05 23:02:58] Tetsuo : mjones: maybe 5000 needs another test
[2016-12-05 23:10:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 423 @ 0.001076
[2016-12-05 23:12:10] lopol : why my liq.price suddenly increased so much?
[2016-12-05 23:12:15] lopol : can someone explain?
[2016-12-05 23:12:23] lopol : all i did was change risk limit
[2016-12-05 23:14:28] l3f : rapidtrades: does the ZEC hurt?
[2016-12-05 23:14:56] j8 : increasing your risk limit increases the maintenance margin, which means you'll be liquidated sooner @lopol
[2016-12-05 23:16:02] lopol : j8: and when i decrese my risk limit to same level my liq price still is higher?
[2016-12-05 23:16:05] lopol : can understand why
[2016-12-05 23:17:42] mjones : i'm expecting big things for ETC
[2016-12-05 23:18:35] Tetsuo : AMEN
[2016-12-05 23:19:06] j8 : lopol: liq price should change, although i know there's sort of a bug/feature where the extra margin doesn't get removed when you lower your risk limit. try moving the leverage slider
[2016-12-05 23:19:58] lopol : yeah i have tried but not working
[2016-12-05 23:20:36] BitMEX_Sam : lopol: I'll double-check with Wally on this one, but if a liquidation were to actually happen, the risk limit is automatically moved to the lowest possible level and the liq price is recalculated
[2016-12-05 23:20:36] lopol : seems fishy that my liq price increases so much just by moving risk limit back and forth once
[2016-12-05 23:21:01] BitMEX_Sam : lopol: Try resetting your margin - go to another leverage level and back
[2016-12-05 23:21:36] lopol : BitMEX_Sam: Yeah i tried but didint work
[2016-12-05 23:22:29] BitMEX_Sam : Which contract is this?
[2016-12-05 23:23:59] lopol : XBTUSD
[2016-12-05 23:24:25] BitMEX_Sam : So if you go back to, say, 100x, your liquidation price is still higher than it was?
[2016-12-05 23:24:26] lopol : also my withdrawable balance is now much lower than before changing risk limit
[2016-12-05 23:24:35] lopol : yes
[2016-12-05 23:25:19] mjones : cant hold ETC down. it has a mind of its own
[2016-12-05 23:25:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 17000 @ 761.94
[2016-12-05 23:26:20] BitMEX_Sam : lopol: Okay - let me ping Wally on this, he can get deeper in to the system. My guess is that your effective leverage was lower due to profit, and going back and forth due to risk limit effectively allocated less margin, making your liquidation price nearer. You should be able to choose a lev that gets you back to your original liq price.
[2016-12-05 23:27:41] lopol : ok
[2016-12-05 23:28:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 3999 @ 0.001108
[2016-12-05 23:31:13] mjones : someone just market bought some ltc on btce ltc/btc market. LTC trying to make a comeback
[2016-12-05 23:32:59] KingTuna : is ETH in a perpetual decline? IS there any hope
[2016-12-05 23:33:51] Tetsuo : There is hope , it´s name is ETC!
[2016-12-05 23:34:43] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: looking good
[2016-12-05 23:34:55] wurstgelee : entered a educated fomo long earlier
[2016-12-05 23:35:21] Tetsuo : same here, also bought a large sume spot about 2 weeks ago
[2016-12-05 23:35:56] mjones : China gonna delist LTC and add ETC. i wonder if that's why LTC took a huge dump and ETC is pumping...
[2016-12-05 23:36:12] Tetsuo : lol, that would be awesome
[2016-12-05 23:36:24] wurstgelee : if that is true, yes
[2016-12-05 23:36:29] wurstgelee : that would be the reason
[2016-12-05 23:36:36] wurstgelee : probably