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[2016-12-05 17:07:29] habibi : RocketScience: then everything below 15x of that price is uber cheap :D
[2016-12-05 17:08:13] RocketScience : technically it's 50% above ico price
[2016-12-05 17:08:35] arbitrage001 : 3 eth
[2016-12-05 17:08:38] arbitrage001 : which is which
[2016-12-05 17:09:14] arbitrage001 : eth classic is the previous eth?
[2016-12-05 17:09:24] arbitrage001 : and ethwin is the prvious etc?
[2016-12-05 17:09:33] sleger : sure
[2016-12-05 17:09:48] Rado : arbitrage001: no
[2016-12-05 17:09:54] Rado : WIN is not previous anything
[2016-12-05 17:10:04] RocketScience : it's an exchange for ETC
[2016-12-05 17:10:05] Rado : WIN is a token based on ETC for trading crypto assets
[2016-12-05 17:10:14] Rado : RocketScience: not for ETC
[2016-12-05 17:10:26] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-12-05 17:10:29] Rado : ETC based for all kinds of crypto currencies
[2016-12-05 17:10:58] mjones : btc pumping
[2016-12-05 17:11:14] Rado : cool
[2016-12-05 17:11:23] Sasukeevil : lol okcasino trapped the bottom shorters
[2016-12-05 17:13:19] arbitrage001 : All coins eventually returns to its intrinsic value
[2016-12-05 17:13:37] Tetsuo : Btc 50$; all others 0$?
[2016-12-05 17:15:35] arbitrage001 : i am older than the average life expectancy of currency
[2016-12-05 17:16:37] mjones : lol 100x risk limit on xbtz16 is 200 XBT now
[2016-12-05 17:17:27] martinium : finally caved and brought BTC/CNY futures
[2016-12-05 17:18:35] martinium : so hopefully we get many more Chinese traders using this exchange
[2016-12-05 17:18:39] martinium : would be very good
[2016-12-05 17:19:14] mjones : 2.3 BTC 100x long on XBTZ16. lets get this pump started
[2016-12-05 17:29:14] rms : what is etcwin?
[2016-12-05 17:30:08] habibi : rms: just go long, don't ask questions
[2016-12-05 17:30:49] rms : is the 30% premium here real?
[2016-12-05 17:30:50] rms : that seems more like a short
[2016-12-05 17:31:02] wurstgelee : rms: sure? remember zec.... ;)
[2016-12-05 17:31:33] rms : the premium corrected cause it was one idiot holding it down?
[2016-12-05 17:31:59] mjones : etcwin is the future. it's a real winner
[2016-12-05 17:32:02] sleger : short seems great
[2016-12-05 17:32:09] wurstgelee : no, i was referring to shorting new stuff early after its been listed while trading hasnt even started
[2016-12-05 17:32:10] sleger : dont listen to these trolls rms
[2016-12-05 17:32:21] sleger : good job
[2016-12-05 17:32:26] wurstgelee : sleger: ;)
[2016-12-05 17:32:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2000 @ 0.009270
[2016-12-05 17:32:36] mjones : RIP ETH
[2016-12-05 17:33:00] habibi : good double bottom guys! :)
[2016-12-05 17:35:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 4000 @ 768.60
[2016-12-05 17:40:33] thomaskikansha : winz16 at limit high now?
[2016-12-05 17:42:12] Tetsuo : no more limits until 100 BTC
[2016-12-05 17:45:35] thomaskikansha : cannot put bids higher than 1634
[2016-12-05 17:45:39] sleger : is there a cap for WIN ?
[2016-12-05 17:46:04] Rado : no
[2016-12-05 17:46:10] Rado : cap is 100 BTC for all coins
[2016-12-05 17:46:21] Rado : I thknk
[2016-12-05 17:46:24] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-05 17:46:25] sleger : so 1 bitcoin will never go above 100btc ?
[2016-12-05 17:47:27] Rado : obviously we are talking about coins denominated in BTC
[2016-12-05 17:47:39] Rado : as far as I know there are no limits on BTC itself
[2016-12-05 17:49:28] sleger : ok and what you said is that there is no cap, and this non existent cap is set at 100btc ?
[2016-12-05 17:50:20] thomaskikansha : up limit of 25% per 8 hours for WIN
[2016-12-05 17:55:05] andrei : hi everyone... does anyone know the listing rules for BitMEX ?
[2016-12-05 17:56:56] BitMEX_Greg : andrei: what are you interested in knowing specifically?
[2016-12-05 17:57:20] mjones : it takes a 5 BTC bribe for them to list your coin
[2016-12-05 17:57:38] RoftheN : only 5 BTC?
[2016-12-05 17:57:53] wurstgelee : mjones: arthur settles for 3 btc and 2 sushi candlelight dinners i heard
[2016-12-05 17:57:59] andrei : I was reading an email and just saw that you have listed WIN... and I am interested in listed a coin based on ETH blockchain
[2016-12-05 17:58:36] wurstgelee : spoiler: this won't happen
[2016-12-05 17:58:49] BitMEX_Greg : andrei: send us a support ticket with some info and we can take a look
[2016-12-05 17:59:04] arbitrage001 : i am also interested in listing a brand new coin
[2016-12-05 17:59:10] habibi : andrei: this move was to attract chinese players here, don't be delusional someone will list another eth ico scam or whatever here
[2016-12-05 17:59:11] andrei : sure thing...thank you so much Greg
[2016-12-05 17:59:17] arbitrage001 : arbitrage0001 charity foundation coin
[2016-12-05 17:59:24] arbitrage001 : aka ACFC
[2016-12-05 17:59:52] wurstgelee : i am also listed in interesting some items. can we have a garage sale?
[2016-12-05 17:59:57] wurstgelee : *lol
[2016-12-05 18:00:02] BitMEX_Greg : :)
[2016-12-05 18:00:06] wurstgelee : interested in listiing....
[2016-12-05 18:00:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-12-05 18:00:52] BitMEX_Sam : I agree with the sushi suggestion, that is very persuasive
[2016-12-05 18:01:04] andrei : habibi: great move from them... I would have done the same... China remains no 1 player in this game
[2016-12-05 18:01:41] habibi : andrei: back in old days Sleger was no 1 player in crypto... but then he invested in eth
[2016-12-05 18:02:09] andrei : evolve or die :)
[2016-12-05 18:02:41] wurstgelee : habibi: hahaha
[2016-12-05 18:03:27] sleger : it's my best trade so far, it's just unrealized yet
[2016-12-05 18:03:57] habibi : sleger: that spirit! :)
[2016-12-05 18:04:18] andrei : long term investment :)
[2016-12-05 18:04:36] thomaskikansha : bouncy eth
[2016-12-05 18:06:58] RoftheN : What is ETCwin?
[2016-12-05 18:16:53] BitMEX_Greg : RoftheN: hi, take a read of the email sent around
[2016-12-05 18:17:10] RoftheN : Oh yeah good idea
[2016-12-05 18:17:11] Tetsuo : it´s a future where you can´t lose
[2016-12-05 18:17:20] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: could u make a movie?
[2016-12-05 18:17:24] wurstgelee : i can't read.
[2016-12-05 18:17:36] wurstgelee : and i am pretty sure rapitrades can't as well
[2016-12-05 18:19:20] Tetsuo : something like these korean animated news
[2016-12-05 18:19:24] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iB6_73rNnc
[2016-12-05 18:20:10] Tetsuo : lol, 0:58 wtf
[2016-12-05 18:23:39] rapidtrades : new lows in usd/cnh
[2016-12-05 18:23:42] rapidtrades : now at 6.85
[2016-12-05 18:25:15] RocketScience : what do your rapid eyes see?
[2016-12-05 18:34:59] mjones : lol eth
[2016-12-05 18:36:33] RocketScience : etc is moving in opposite direction in reaction to that dump :o
[2016-12-05 18:38:32] Tetsuo : sleger: as you said in your PM i think it´s a pretty wise decision that you dumped your ETH for ETC. At some points in life you just have to join the winning team!
[2016-12-05 18:42:19] inconspic : haha I'm enjoying the ZEC fall soooo much
[2016-12-05 18:43:24] RoftheN : I don't see how ETC is better than ETH, it might go up a lot if ETH switches to PoS though
[2016-12-05 18:51:26] Tetsuo : Eternal True Hoax vs Eternal True Coin (supported by China)
[2016-12-05 18:52:55] Tetsuo : probably more like Eternal Tragic Hoax
[2016-12-05 18:54:20] bingbongfly : CNY/USD 7.1. Historical levels, how will china react?
[2016-12-05 18:55:53] sleger : waking up from a 6 months coma ?
[2016-12-05 18:59:13] RocketScience : the question is will etc ever wake up from it's coma
[2016-12-05 19:01:17] RoftheN : Did the bubble burst?
[2016-12-05 19:01:40] RocketScience : alt bubble as a whole, y
[2016-12-05 19:01:41] Tetsuo : ETC bear bubble about to burst, i can confirm
[2016-12-05 19:04:40] RocketScience : it's bubbling
[2016-12-05 19:04:59] bingbongfly : might have to close my ETC short, it's been a good run :) one of my best trades this year
[2016-12-05 19:05:11] RocketScience : tell me when
[2016-12-05 19:05:18] RocketScience : i can market make for you :P
[2016-12-05 19:05:40] bingbongfly : I don't have much left
[2016-12-05 19:05:49] bingbongfly : covered most of it
[2016-12-05 19:06:25] RocketScience : okay. i'll probably wait a little more before selling
[2016-12-05 19:08:09] RocketScience : i must say eth got some nice new walls too
[2016-12-05 19:15:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 3 @ 0.067038
[2016-12-05 19:15:47] mjones : zec new low. oshi
[2016-12-05 19:16:32] rapidtrades : jones don't spam pls
[2016-12-05 19:17:04] RocketScience : lol
[2016-12-05 19:17:47] mjones : ก็็็็็
[2016-12-05 19:18:25] rapidtrades : wtf is ETCwin
[2016-12-05 19:18:29] rapidtrades : is this a joke
[2016-12-05 19:18:52] mjones : ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็ ก็็็็็
[2016-12-05 19:19:00] Tetsuo : BAN HIM
[2016-12-05 19:19:12] mjones : we are bullish on ETCWIN.
[2016-12-05 19:19:18] Tetsuo : yes we are
[2016-12-05 19:19:51] rapidtrades : what is it?
[2016-12-05 19:19:54] Tetsuo : no one really knows what it is or where it will get traded , but hey, we have reached the upper cap limit and everyone knows what this means
[2016-12-05 19:19:56] habibi : rapidtrades: first u laugh at new future product, then u buy @3btc, then u baghold
[2016-12-05 19:20:01] CaptainDean : this is a no brainer with the word win in the name, i'm buying it all
[2016-12-05 19:20:52] rapidtrades : its actual currency code is WIN?
[2016-12-05 19:21:26] rapidtrades : Shouldn't that be reserved for Charlie Sheen coin?
[2016-12-05 19:21:52] mjones : that's #WINNING
[2016-12-05 19:21:57] mjones : the coin is just WIN
[2016-12-05 19:22:02] mjones : it has already won
[2016-12-05 19:22:07] Tetsuo : Cap will be removed in 38m, then you will probably have 10 seconds to buy until the new cap get´s reached
[2016-12-05 19:22:30] mjones : i'm gonna market buy so fast. i'll be in instaprofit
[2016-12-05 19:22:54] rapidtrades : are we doing this stupid limit buy thing again?
[2016-12-05 19:23:13] Tetsuo : green users as always are privileged to buy
[2016-12-05 19:23:28] Tetsuo : we can buy 3s earlier
[2016-12-05 19:23:29] mjones : can shorts close above the limit, but longs cannot open?
[2016-12-05 19:24:14] Tetsuo : no
[2016-12-05 19:26:02] rapidtrades : ''In January 1990, Sheen accidentally shot his fiancée, Kelly Preston, in the arm''
[2016-12-05 19:26:02] mjones : is there a link to the announcement about WIN and the cap?
[2016-12-05 19:26:18] rapidtrades : accidentally ofc
[2016-12-05 19:26:37] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: Not yet. just in the email.
[2016-12-05 19:26:58] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: Details here about limit up / down: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/WIN
[2016-12-05 19:27:41] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: Watch werner herzog gettin shot durin an interview https://youtu.be/HrRNM9cMBDk?t=49s
[2016-12-05 19:28:27] Tetsuo : those things happen
[2016-12-05 19:28:32] mjones : looks good, thanks. looks like i wont be rich for a few 8 hour periods. assuming it keeps hitting the limit every 8 hours
[2016-12-05 19:29:06] Tetsuo : how many 8h periods until we reach 1 BTC?
[2016-12-05 19:29:23] mjones : T͚͔̪̙o̙̼̤ ̪͝ḭ̮͢n̹̦̺͍͜v͓̻̘͇͈̞o̧k̞͔͎̼̲̦e̛͈̬̫̜ ̡̲t̹̥͕͚̘͟h̖̪̲̥͞e̷̯͙̲̬̘ ̵̥̲hi̯͙̙̝v̟͇e҉-̀m̪̩i̭͉̰̘̼̣͜ń̜͍d̠̬̞͔̰͇͞ ..
[2016-12-05 19:29:26] mjones : not sure
[2016-12-05 19:29:44] mjones : Ṯ̮̜̥͙ơ̱̗̗̦ ̢̜̦͎̖͎̭i͖͙̝͓̮̙͜n͈v̨̟̟ǫ̯ke͙͕ ̟̟͓͙̖t̸̟͎̮̯h̩̰͖̖̙͈͟ͅe̹͔̻̮͟ͅ ̻̜h͕͍͖i̛̩v͍̮͔̺e̻̹͚̞͍̬-͢m̮̣̜̼͙̦̫i̺͙͈̳̣̺ͅn̪͚̼ḍ͎̮̜͝ ̹̥̬͕̕re̹̺̝̰̖̝͚p̖̟̺̘̞r̫̱e̸͇͓̠̖͇̙͈s̗̳̩ͅe̹̦͈̟̪̥͞ͅn̵̙̜ṯ͔̣͉̟i͘ṋ̶̜̪̳̘̤ǵ ̢̯̘c҉̻̘h̛a̺̤͎͟o̖̮͓͔̝̦s͙̯̗͕̱.̞̹̼̯͜ͅ ͍̲͍̪̪͎̀I̷̟̞̞͕n̵̺͕̠v͉̮̳̥̥̼̼ó͖͚ḱi͟n̪̜̥g̞ ̴͇̰̝̦̱̭t͙ḫ̶͖͇̮̻͕̺e̼̗̥̮̗͞ ̼͖̲̘͙f̢͔̘̪͓̯̠e̹̮͎̬̠e̗̖̺͍͖̩l͞i̥̞͚̯̠̙ͅn̠͡g̙͍̱̤ ̨o̼̼͚̩̝̫̣f̥͉̦̲͖̗́ ͓̳̙c̞̻̳̣̭h̦̯̱a̠͈̲̗̘͓͢o̴̩̞͕̥s͎̪̻.̲ ̛̰̱̱̖W̮̬͢i̯̗̺̖͎t̷̺̣h̹̬̠̝͈̲͇ ̖̳̟̩̼̜o̺ͅu͡ţ ̧o̩̣̱̣̩̞r̘͇̺̫͓͇d͝e̸̱r͔͔͈͓̫̻̀. ͠T̜͕͞ͅh̵͕͔e͢ ̶̻̺̣̻̱̰ͅNez̼̝̫p̵e̙̖̺̭̖͡r̫͓͕d̀i̖͇an̡̰͉̠ ̹̝̹̬͎̜͝ͅh͎͔̪̻̱͞i̠͇v҉ḙ̡̱̲̫̝-̮̙̣͈̝͇m̜̱̖̲̣i͚̥̫̺̩͙̹n͙͍͕̖̻d̦͙͜ ọ̟̬͍f̗̞͙̣͡ ͞c̫̦̭͉̩͢ha̞͞o͕̺̱͡s̝.̨̜̝͚̣ ̲̝̫̻̪̤Z͎a͙̥͕l̷̹̳͚̰͉̰̬g̬͍̠̬̯̩͇ó͉. ̱̟̩̬̰̤͚H҉̬̗e͓̭͉̝̙̝͝ ̹̼̲͎̣̦w̼͟h̳̘̹̮o ͝W͙̼̞̫̠̟a̳͉͙̞i̛͉t͓s̻̖͚͝ ͏͈̦̫ͅḄ͇e͕͝h̞͉͚͝i̷̥̣ṇ̬̙d҉̲̦͈̪̘̣ ̙̖͘T̨͈h̹̯͇̹̝̟ḛ̷͈̤̜ ̼̗̼͔͢W͍̙̻͓̕a̢͉̯̠̠̺̗̬l̵̠͎̠͕̮l͚̭͔̤͈̺.҉͕̟ ̵̤͉̻̝͓̤̖Z̴̹̩A̰̟̱͠L̖G͍͚̖̤̳̜͕Ò̻̱͓̠!͏̭̲
[2016-12-05 19:29:44] rapidtrades : i'll wait for 3
[2016-12-05 19:29:52] mjones : lol i'll stop
[2016-12-05 19:29:57] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: please refrain
[2016-12-05 19:30:27] RocketScience : Bitmex stands for freedom of expression :D
[2016-12-05 19:33:38] RocketScience : rogue sell wall on eth detected
[2016-12-05 19:35:36] rapidtrades : I don't get it, am I suppose to fomo buy WIN?
[2016-12-05 19:36:14] mjones : that's the only way to get in.
[2016-12-05 19:36:15] Tetsuo : Set Buy Stop @ 0.001640---> instaprofit
[2016-12-05 19:36:55] rapidtrades : u can barely get any volume tho
[2016-12-05 19:37:15] Tetsuo : u can short into the buy wall if you wan´t volume
[2016-12-05 19:37:19] rapidtrades : there's only 20 until next limit?
[2016-12-05 19:37:43] mjones : yeah. gonna be tough to get in
[2016-12-05 19:37:47] rapidtrades : that's $24 worth
[2016-12-05 19:38:01] rapidtrades : so total profit is $6
[2016-12-05 19:38:10] rapidtrades : for all of us
[2016-12-05 19:38:24] Tetsuo : i will buy a pack of cigarettes
[2016-12-05 19:38:38] mjones : 22 minutes till i fomo before all of you
[2016-12-05 19:38:39] rapidtrades : well u won't get it all asshole
[2016-12-05 19:38:50] Tetsuo : i set my buy stop long ago
[2016-12-05 19:38:56] Tetsuo : i´m first in queue
[2016-12-05 19:39:07] rapidtrades : buy stops are not first in
[2016-12-05 19:39:14] Tetsuo : yes they are
[2016-12-05 19:39:26] rapidtrades : are they? @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-12-05 19:39:28] Tetsuo : no probably not, youßre right
[2016-12-05 19:39:30] Tetsuo : damn
[2016-12-05 19:39:47] Tetsuo : i have 16GB RAM
[2016-12-05 19:39:49] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: I believe its based on time priority
[2016-12-05 19:40:04] rapidtrades : but they haven't been triggered yet
[2016-12-05 19:40:42] rapidtrades : f*ck this shit, I'm not fighting over $6
[2016-12-05 19:41:06] Tetsuo : 1 contract might soon be worth 10 BTC u fool
[2016-12-05 19:41:21] rapidtrades : actually that 0.001998 ask is within the next limit
[2016-12-05 19:41:58] rapidtrades : wat
[2016-12-05 19:42:25] rapidtrades : stop f*cking around sleger
[2016-12-05 19:42:27] zanza : wow ETH getting smashed. ETC holding up
[2016-12-05 19:43:11] rapidtrades : sleger put a 25k ask on WIN to f*Ck with us
[2016-12-05 19:44:02] Tetsuo : if his computer breaks down before cap gets released he will get rekt brutally
[2016-12-05 19:44:18] Tetsuo : someone hack him
[2016-12-05 19:44:20] rapidtrades : god plz one time
[2016-12-05 19:44:42] rapidtrades : he can live in one of his 50 apartments, he will be fine
[2016-12-05 19:44:48] rapidtrades : doesn't need bitcoins
[2016-12-05 19:45:07] mjones : there we go. 15 minutes till i eat that wall
[2016-12-05 19:45:15] mjones : ETCWIN FTW
[2016-12-05 19:45:22] rapidtrades : he's gonna pull it last minute
[2016-12-05 19:46:01] RocketScience : Buy the winner
[2016-12-05 19:46:05] mjones : who is shorting
[2016-12-05 19:48:01] mjones : ETCWIN is big in china. our chinese friends will push it to the moon once cap is removed
[2016-12-05 19:48:21] rapidtrades : can confirm
[2016-12-05 19:48:27] Tetsuo : +1
[2016-12-05 19:48:37] sleger : guys stop talking about that ask you will scare it
[2016-12-05 19:49:04] Tetsuo : maybe trollboxer asked his mother for some fresh money?
[2016-12-05 19:49:08] wurstgelee : 1 month from now, rapidtrades will be bagholding ETCwin @ 3 btc
[2016-12-05 19:49:10] rapidtrades : I googled ETCwin and all I could find was some weird chinese 限价了限价了限价了限价了
[2016-12-05 19:49:22] Tetsuo : etcwin.com
[2016-12-05 19:49:32] sleger : house nose house nose thats what its saying
[2016-12-05 19:49:41] wurstgelee : i agree
[2016-12-05 19:50:10] rapidtrades : sleger: it's code for 'it's as good of an investment as a house'
[2016-12-05 19:50:15] rapidtrades : an old chinese saying
[2016-12-05 19:50:43] sleger : that or house smells bad we need house that smells good
[2016-12-05 19:50:56] Tetsuo : "The key to success" in a red frame on their homepage , holy shit
[2016-12-05 19:51:01] Tetsuo : they´re up to something
[2016-12-05 19:51:16] rapidtrades : on to greatness?
[2016-12-05 19:51:23] wurstgelee : is there some english info available?
[2016-12-05 19:51:27] rapidtrades : are we looking at ZEC 2.0?
[2016-12-05 19:51:29] wurstgelee : about etcwin?
[2016-12-05 19:51:32] RocketScience : http://etcwin.com/html/index.html
[2016-12-05 19:51:35] Tetsuo : I´m so fukkin glad that this 10 BTC cap got lifted up to 100
[2016-12-05 19:51:40] RocketScience : english
[2016-12-05 19:51:56] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: it's the key to success, what more do u need?
[2016-12-05 19:53:03] wurstgelee : my current total position size here is a small house atm
[2016-12-05 19:53:13] wurstgelee : i dont need another position
[2016-12-05 19:53:17] XXXX : So ETCwin was an ico raised on etc. What is the narketcap at current price. It looks expensive already. Dont be a bagholder. Dont buy if you dont know t it is.
[2016-12-05 19:53:53] RocketScience : 1 million etc fundng
[2016-12-05 19:53:54] rapidtrades : stay out and miss buying the key to success? doesn't seem very smart
[2016-12-05 19:54:06] RocketScience : 1 mil * 0.001btc/eth=?
[2016-12-05 19:54:23] rapidtrades : 1mil ETH, what's that $5 dollars?
[2016-12-05 19:54:45] mjones : i long etcwin now, ask questions later
[2016-12-05 19:55:15] rapidtrades : so they raised 7mil already? sounds like good investment
[2016-12-05 19:56:53] XXXX : 1 million etc = 1000 btc. So thats what was raised in the ico.
[2016-12-05 19:58:05] rapidtrades : no it's 9,280 btc
[2016-12-05 19:58:19] habibi : rapidtrades: etc my friend, etc
[2016-12-05 19:58:33] rapidtrades : aaaah
[2016-12-05 19:58:36] rapidtrades : right
[2016-12-05 19:58:56] rapidtrades : an even better investment then
[2016-12-05 19:58:59] imabeast : wurstgelee: u long on etcwin?
[2016-12-05 19:59:13] wurstgelee : imabeast: ignored it so far
[2016-12-05 19:59:13] mjones : dang the wall is gone.
[2016-12-05 19:59:16] XXXX : How many etcwin in total?
[2016-12-05 19:59:29] rapidtrades : no shit the wall is gone lol
[2016-12-05 19:59:33] rapidtrades : told u sleger will pull it last minute
[2016-12-05 19:59:44] Tetsuo : chandler guo is on board
[2016-12-05 20:00:04] Tetsuo : go
[2016-12-05 20:00:11] Tetsuo : DAMN
[2016-12-05 20:00:13] mjones : fuck got 0
[2016-12-05 20:00:13] imabeast : holy shit
[2016-12-05 20:00:14] Tetsuo : i got none
[2016-12-05 20:00:20] RocketScience : none
[2016-12-05 20:00:24] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-12-05 20:00:27] rapidtrades : none either
[2016-12-05 20:00:29] mjones : trading was suspended and when it came back it was too late
[2016-12-05 20:00:39] wurstgelee : i am laughing and almost choked on my popcorn
[2016-12-05 20:01:18] XXXX : How many etcwin in total? Want to know the marketcap at current price
[2016-12-05 20:01:20] mjones : see you all in 8 hours for the next try
[2016-12-05 20:01:29] rapidtrades : this is dumb
[2016-12-05 20:01:36] QuantFocus : what's happening
[2016-12-05 20:01:36] imabeast : trading is closed for it?
[2016-12-05 20:01:49] imabeast : ah shit this is like zec then lmao
[2016-12-05 20:01:52] QuantFocus : is this like the zec thing?
[2016-12-05 20:01:57] QuantFocus : win?
[2016-12-05 20:01:57] mjones : yeah
[2016-12-05 20:02:00] Tetsuo : took 3 seconds
[2016-12-05 20:02:07] wurstgelee : no. its an ico
[2016-12-05 20:02:08] QuantFocus : which token?
[2016-12-05 20:02:11] wurstgelee : completely different
[2016-12-05 20:02:25] wurstgelee : supply available at once
[2016-12-05 20:02:26] rapidtrades : it's so different
[2016-12-05 20:02:38] wurstgelee : no 3300 btc per ETCwin
[2016-12-05 20:02:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-12-05 20:02:54] wurstgelee : and yes, thats fundamentally different
[2016-12-05 20:03:01] rapidtrades : don't jinx it sausage
[2016-12-05 20:03:17] wurstgelee : there wont be a ZEC-style pump
[2016-12-05 20:03:20] wurstgelee : not even close
[2016-12-05 20:03:52] wurstgelee : no scarcity, no pump madness, almost always
[2016-12-05 20:03:54] XXXX : : How many etcwin in total? Want to know the marketcap at current price
[2016-12-05 20:04:12] rapidtrades : 1000000
[2016-12-05 20:04:25] Tetsuo : with ETCWIN and BTCC about to add ETC this , the eternal true coin will shine soon
[2016-12-05 20:04:33] QuantFocus : so is ETH really ded?
[2016-12-05 20:04:34] wurstgelee : 1m ETCwin cap?
[2016-12-05 20:04:34] rapidtrades : +!
[2016-12-05 20:04:37] Tetsuo : XXXX: 50000
[2016-12-05 20:04:56] rapidtrades : so buy ETC as proxy?
[2016-12-05 20:05:27] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-12-05 20:05:45] Tetsuo : can i participate in the ETCWIN ICO anywhere else?
[2016-12-05 20:06:16] rapidtrades : yes I'm authorized ETCWIN seller
[2016-12-05 20:06:24] XXXX : I think there are 100 million etcwin. So narketcap is 150 million usd. Ha ha. Good luck with that
[2016-12-05 20:06:24] rapidtrades : please send monies to my bitcoin address
[2016-12-05 20:06:53] Tetsuo : it says unstoppable http://etcwin.com/html/20160927-2.html
[2016-12-05 20:07:07] rapidtrades : damn
[2016-12-05 20:07:23] rapidtrades : well if it says that it must be true
[2016-12-05 20:07:32] RocketScience : there is 1 million etcwin, because 1 etc invested=1 etc win created
[2016-12-05 20:08:06] wurstgelee : so much win
[2016-12-05 20:08:07] rapidtrades : but it's already worth 2x etc
[2016-12-05 20:08:11] rapidtrades : how does it work
[2016-12-05 20:08:17] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: oh rly? oO
[2016-12-05 20:08:25] wurstgelee : keep buying it up tho....
[2016-12-05 20:08:53] wurstgelee : at this point, it would make more sense to put money in the ico which is still running
[2016-12-05 20:08:58] wurstgelee : than longing here....
[2016-12-05 20:09:17] rapidtrades : well if that's 1 to 1 then yeah
[2016-12-05 20:09:23] XXXX : wurstgelee: +100
[2016-12-05 20:10:00] rapidtrades : where's the ICO
[2016-12-05 20:10:10] Tetsuo : i´ll tell you for 5 BTC
[2016-12-05 20:10:53] XXXX : You can buy the actual etcwin by participating in the ico at 0.001 btc. Who are the fools buying it here at twice that price?
[2016-12-05 20:12:21] Tetsuo : only people with chinese passports can participate in the actual ICO
[2016-12-05 20:12:42] Tetsuo : PBOC is behind ETCWIN
[2016-12-05 20:17:10] kb1985 : Hi guys, I am trying to understand how ETH 7 days contract works. For example i take 1 BTC and bet that it will go up (or down) and I can use this 1 BTC but buy/sell ETH worth 33 BTC, right? And if I make a mistake and chose wrong direction, this 1 BTC gets taken away, otherwise I profit as if I have used 33 BT, right? But the question is, can this 1 BTC be taken along the way because of price fluctuations or what interests me is only the price on Fridays and not along the way?
[2016-12-05 20:18:19] Tetsuo : price fluctuations matter
[2016-12-05 20:18:26] rapidtrades : yes u can get taken out by price fluctuations
[2016-12-05 20:18:31] mjones : if you bet 1 BTC price goes up and before friday the price goes down far enough to where you liquidation price is, then you lose the 1 BTC and your position is closed
[2016-12-05 20:18:43] XXXX : Along the way. If eth price moves 3% against ur position you lose 1 btc.
[2016-12-05 20:19:04] Tetsuo : 4 helpful posts in a row, this must be a new record
[2016-12-05 20:19:22] sleger : not really
[2016-12-05 20:19:24] sleger : XXXX is wrong
[2016-12-05 20:19:31] sleger : XXXX: 3% comes from where ?
[2016-12-05 20:19:50] kb1985 : So what's the importance of Friday day?
[2016-12-05 20:19:56] XXXX : sleger: if he is using 33× margin
[2016-12-05 20:20:02] sleger : XXXX: ok and ?
[2016-12-05 20:20:14] Tetsuo : kb1985: Friday is in most countries the last day before weekend starts
[2016-12-05 20:20:24] kb1985 : Oh, that's interesting. Thank you aill!
[2016-12-05 20:20:36] sleger : Tetsuo: you taught him something great !
[2016-12-05 20:20:56] XXXX : sleger: 33 x 3 = 100%
[2016-12-05 20:21:17] habibi : XXXX: maintance margin
[2016-12-05 20:21:42] sleger : exactly
[2016-12-05 20:21:48] mjones : friday is when all positions are closed and you can open a new one if you want kb1985
[2016-12-05 20:22:17] kb1985 : And what it I am in profit before Friday? Can I close my position not to risk it anymore?
[2016-12-05 20:22:38] laisee : yes, indeedy
[2016-12-05 20:22:47] kb1985 : Seems like a very dangerous game, even small price change can take all the BTC. :D
[2016-12-05 20:23:43] thiago : even 4 :)
[2016-12-05 20:23:57] XXXX : kb1985: dont use 33x margin. Use 2x or even 5x. But no more unless you are certain of the trend.
[2016-12-05 20:24:03] laisee : risk * X == reward * X. choose X that suits you
[2016-12-05 20:24:39] Tetsuo : if you´re good at TA always use max. leverage ---> max profit
[2016-12-05 20:24:51] sleger : XXXX: you could at least acknowledge your mistake
[2016-12-05 20:26:15] XXXX : sleger: what mistake? If i go long ether at 33x margin and have 1 btc to play with what is my liquidation price? Is it not 3% of the eth price?
[2016-12-05 20:26:26] sleger : XXXX: no
[2016-12-05 20:26:38] sleger : like habibi told you : maintenance margin
[2016-12-05 20:27:20] XXXX : sleger: tell me the % ?
[2016-12-05 20:28:52] XXXX : sleger: I never go max margin. 5x max in btc. 3x max in eth. so my analysis is good enough for me.
[2016-12-05 20:29:56] mjones : 2% move gets you rekt on 33.3x if my math is correct
[2016-12-05 20:30:25] mjones : long 0.00925 and rekt at 0.00907
[2016-12-05 20:30:43] mjones : eh dont listen to me. i think that's for 25x
[2016-12-05 20:31:18] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ETH7D Maint. Margin 1.50% + Exit Taker Fee
[2016-12-05 20:32:37] sleger : XXXX: it's good enough for you but you're wrong by a factor > 2x so you should keep your math for yourself then ;)
[2016-12-05 20:34:05] XXXX : sleger: I have been shorting ether since last few months at 3x margin and i keep in mind that i am good till ether price rises by 33%. Works for me. Maybe not good enough for the extreme thrill seekers at 33x margin.
[2016-12-05 20:35:28] kb1985 : Oh, now I get it - on Friday the contract is forced to close automatically.
[2016-12-05 20:35:31] m3s : howcome price almost doesnt move on bitmex swap when OKCoin moves say 20 CNY ?
[2016-12-05 20:36:40] XXXX : m3s: lack of liquidity
[2016-12-05 20:37:22] kb1985 : Trying to undarstand one more thing - how to calculate liquidation price. Let's say I would like to use 1 BTC to sell ETH at x5 rate. At current prices it would be about 0.0092 ETH/BTC. How high would need the price to go for me to start losing money?
[2016-12-05 20:37:43] kb1985 : Not that I am planning to do this, definitely won't be experimentying with whole BTC, but trying to understand this and how people know it.
[2016-12-05 20:39:55] sleger : XXXX: please stop giving wrong advice
[2016-12-05 20:40:24] sleger : m3s: the swap index is 50% bitstamp, 50% okc0in usd, does not depend on cny prices
[2016-12-05 20:40:49] sleger : only green people are allowed to give advice from now on
[2016-12-05 20:41:10] rapidtrades : tnx for the trust sleger
[2016-12-05 20:41:37] m3s : thanks sleger
[2016-12-05 20:41:39] sleger : habibi is green as well..
[2016-12-05 20:41:45] XXXX : sleger: still better than yours. I know you got mega rekt on zec futures. Thanks for the btcs by the way
[2016-12-05 20:41:48] rapidtrades : BUY ZEC BUY BUY BUY
[2016-12-05 20:41:53] rapidtrades : that's my advice ^
[2016-12-05 20:42:35] sleger : XXXX: just admit you were wrong, and take the opportunity to learn. No need to become agressive
[2016-12-05 20:42:43] sleger : and zec mega rekt was trollboxer
[2016-12-05 20:43:21] XXXX : sleger: i am talking pre launch zec. Just admit it like a man.
[2016-12-05 20:44:10] sleger : sure. however not sure is why you are bringing this up
[2016-12-05 20:44:15] habibi : XXXX: there's nothing to admit, he did in past and never reverse that words so whats ur problem :(?
[2016-12-05 20:45:18] sleger : when i saw it was going to go higher i put it in margin to let it liquidated as exiting would have cost me more slippage. Nothing wrong with that.
[2016-12-05 20:45:56] j8 : it's a tactical liquidation
[2016-12-05 20:45:59] XXXX : habibi: are you his bitch?
[2016-12-05 20:46:11] laisee : no slippage during liquidations?
[2016-12-05 20:46:28] habibi : XXXX: if u want to attack him just do it in right way, otherwise u are end up as an idiot
[2016-12-05 20:46:36] granathus : must be slippage in liquidation too
[2016-12-05 20:47:15] j8 : your slippage in liquidation is predefined, you lose your maintenance margin. that might be better than what's available on the orderbook
[2016-12-05 20:47:16] sleger : laisee: when you go on isolated margin you commit to a max collateral so you cant lose more than that no matter at what price the liq is executed (or ADL'ed)
[2016-12-05 20:47:53] laisee : sleger: ofc. but that is not the question
[2016-12-05 20:47:57] granathus : yeah, but liquidation algorithm takes that into account, not like bitmex takes a loss on liquidations
[2016-12-05 20:48:34] sleger : laisee: however i did answer, and so did j8
[2016-12-05 20:48:45] XXXX : habibi: this is trollbox. Every one here is idiot. If anyone thinks otherwise then he s a megaidiot
[2016-12-05 20:49:16] sleger : granathus: bitmex doesnt take a loss, however other users did get less profits because I triggered a liq vs existing at market
[2016-12-05 20:49:46] laisee : sleger: u didn't answer my question. forced liquidation incurs more or less slippage than closing out your own position over time?
[2016-12-05 20:49:50] j8 : zec has maintenance margin of 25%, and it was trading with more than 50% spread. it makes a lot of sense
[2016-12-05 20:49:58] habibi : XXXX: yea but u are the one that is lowering SMA of level at this trollbox
[2016-12-05 20:50:01] sleger : laisee: it depends... on liquidity
[2016-12-05 20:50:39] laisee : for any level of liquidity, it should be better
[2016-12-05 20:50:56] wurstgelee : nice dumping ZEC
[2016-12-05 20:51:18] laisee : wurstgelee: almost time to buy agin
[2016-12-05 20:51:22] sleger : laisee: the fact that insurance fund increases tells you otherwise
[2016-12-05 20:51:32] wurstgelee : laisee: not yet i figure. still short ;)
[2016-12-05 20:52:04] laisee : sleger: good point, if we know the level of the fund.
[2016-12-05 20:52:20] sleger : laisee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2016-12-05 20:52:30] sleger : unless you are talking about one specific instrument
[2016-12-05 20:52:35] sleger : but in general this is the case
[2016-12-05 20:52:37] laisee : yes
[2016-12-05 20:53:40] j8 : any time someone gets ADL'd, that means their counterparties got a better exit than they would have on the orderbook
[2016-12-05 20:54:21] sleger : getting ADL'ed is winning
[2016-12-05 20:54:29] sleger : well, getting other people ADL'ed is
[2016-12-05 20:54:43] wurstgelee : thats losing
[2016-12-05 20:54:50] laisee : winning by losing less ....
[2016-12-05 20:55:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `WINZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.002042
[2016-12-05 20:55:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `WINZ16`: Buy 100 @ 0.002042
[2016-12-05 20:55:09] wurstgelee : i prefer plain winning
[2016-12-05 20:55:33] laisee : then u could win even more by ADL yourself though closing position in chunks
[2016-12-05 20:55:45] wurstgelee : yes ofc, i like adl
[2016-12-05 20:55:54] wurstgelee : who doesnt?
[2016-12-05 20:56:11] laisee : its limit up trading for the forgetful
[2016-12-05 20:56:20] j8 : i really like the fact that we don't have open liquidations sitting around for up to a week
[2016-12-05 20:56:42] sleger : yes, ala bitvc
[2016-12-05 20:56:49] mjones : WIN rekt
[2016-12-05 20:56:55] laisee : yup. old liquidations suck.
[2016-12-05 20:57:06] j8 : and the fact that unrealized pnl is immediately used as margin, makes cross margin work properly
[2016-12-05 20:57:34] laisee : speaking of which ... AIG is still doing business somehow, even in Asia. .
[2016-12-05 20:58:51] thiago : wtf is happening at " ...etcwin"??
[2016-12-05 20:59:01] j8 : it's stuck on the session limit up
[2016-12-05 20:59:17] Tetsuo : i thought limit up was 0.002
[2016-12-05 20:59:35] j8 : maybe last session it was
[2016-12-05 20:59:35] mjones : eth dump part 110
[2016-12-05 21:00:18] thiago : session limit? why we need that?
[2016-12-05 21:00:43] Tetsuo : thiago: everyone should get a (small) chance before it goes to 100 BTC
[2016-12-05 21:00:50] j8 : it's marked to last price, it's brand new, there's no spot market
[2016-12-05 21:00:53] habibi : thiago: to prevent manipulations, liq both sides of trade within 1 minute and stuff like that
[2016-12-05 21:05:33] thiago : prevent manipulation,,, I guess the mods didnt read wolong's book . . . . .
[2016-12-05 21:06:55] Tetsuo : wolong only pumped and dumped spot, no liqs there
[2016-12-05 21:07:53] laisee : rapidtrades: WIN == eye of the tiger blood coin or SHT coins?
[2016-12-05 21:08:33] Tetsuo : ETC = Eye of the Tiger Coin
[2016-12-05 21:09:08] laisee : Tetsuo: +1000
[2016-12-05 21:10:20] Tetsuo : After God realised that he failed the first the by creating Adam&Eve he gave it a second chance with ETC
[2016-12-05 21:10:46] CaptainDean : and added WIN in front of it ... marketing 101
[2016-12-05 21:10:56] laisee : EVE got forked
[2016-12-05 21:10:59] CaptainDean : at the end of it**
[2016-12-05 21:11:23] Tetsuo : laisee: lol
[2016-12-05 21:12:04] laisee : sersly - WIN? cant even find it on SHT exchange like POLO.
[2016-12-05 21:12:54] habibi : laisee: srlrsly
[2016-12-05 21:13:45] laisee : crypto has jumped the SHRK ... good name for a coin
[2016-12-05 21:13:50] thiago : shitmex greg: can you list ARC tokens too? i bought too and want to get rich too
[2016-12-05 21:14:24] laisee : My SHRK coins are hungry for some whale food.
[2016-12-05 21:15:24] Tetsuo : thiago: hasn´t noahs arc sunken? i don´t know , i got bored after a few pages
[2016-12-05 21:16:29] Tetsuo : i just read that it got stuck on top of a mountain, lol
[2016-12-05 21:16:31] Tetsuo : i might buy some too
[2016-12-05 21:16:38] laisee : yeh, 2 many dumb creatures onboard
[2016-12-05 21:17:02] thiago : you can buy some at ethdelta. and, nowhere else
[2016-12-05 21:18:30] arbitrage001 : where is the index price for etcwin derive from?
[2016-12-05 21:18:39] Tetsuo : ETH/ETC parity @ ~0.004 within 2 months?
[2016-12-05 21:18:44] BitMEX_Sam : arbitrage001: It's the ETC parity price
[2016-12-05 21:19:01] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: parity price from?
[2016-12-05 21:19:10] BitMEX_Sam : As in, parity with the value of ETC
[2016-12-05 21:19:19] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: ok thank you
[2016-12-05 21:20:36] laisee : ETH has some ways to FALL by the looks of it
[2016-12-05 21:20:55] Tetsuo : 30k sell wall@ETH@POLO
[2016-12-05 21:22:08] arbitrage001 : so much confusion now on eth
[2016-12-05 21:22:34] arbitrage001 : parents having too many chilren
[2016-12-05 21:25:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2500 @ 0.009050
[2016-12-05 21:27:52] mjones : eth longs gonna get mega rekt
[2016-12-05 21:28:16] arbitrage001 : so is every other coin eventually
[2016-12-05 21:28:22] arbitrage001 : including btc
[2016-12-05 21:30:45] Tetsuo : Open the Gates of hell, ETH is knocking
[2016-12-05 21:31:56] Tetsuo : ETH clearly is scared shitless by the arrival of ETCWIN!
[2016-12-05 21:33:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1500 @ 0.008900
[2016-12-05 21:33:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.008900
[2016-12-05 21:33:08] thiago : lol
[2016-12-05 21:34:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.008860
[2016-12-05 21:34:35] wurstgelee : mewn me btc
[2016-12-05 21:34:39] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-12-05 21:35:19] Sasukeevil : last time I wanted to long eth and got ass whipping
[2016-12-05 21:36:10] Spofas : BitMEX_Sam: are you guys pulling up the limitup on etcwin?
[2016-12-05 21:36:11] mjones : and it's always nice when the market maker leaves so you cant exit that long
[2016-12-05 21:36:13] BitMEX_Sam : New feature just hit production: tables are now sortable: http://i.imgur.com/2yEcba0.png
[2016-12-05 21:36:27] BitMEX_Greg : Spofas: The limitup is reset every 8 hours
[2016-12-05 21:36:35] BitMEX_Sam : That's 12:00, 20:00, and 4:00 UTC
[2016-12-05 21:36:59] rapidtrades : wow ETH below 0.09
[2016-12-05 21:37:35] Spofas : Alright thanks
[2016-12-05 21:39:22] sleger : one 3000btc market buy brings it back to 0.02
[2016-12-05 21:39:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 41 @ 0.008720
[2016-12-05 21:40:12] Tetsuo : sleger: a 3000 BTC market buy on Stamp might also bring it to 10000$, plz don´t use troll logic!
[2016-12-05 21:40:26] sleger : obv i wasnt serious
[2016-12-05 21:40:34] Tetsuo : i know
[2016-12-05 21:40:39] sleger : oh :o
[2016-12-05 21:41:30] Tetsuo : 0.0088 might hold for a while
[2016-12-05 21:41:36] Tetsuo : not that i´m buyin
[2016-12-05 21:41:59] wurstgelee : .007 maybe
[2016-12-05 21:45:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 321 @ 0.008590
[2016-12-05 21:48:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 120 @ 0.008700
[2016-12-05 21:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.008770
[2016-12-05 21:49:26] Mm bot : Liquidate ETH short? They like to short bottom
[2016-12-05 21:49:33] mjones : lol
[2016-12-05 21:49:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 24 @ 0.008860
[2016-12-05 21:50:15] sleger : you have to really try to get a short liquidated !
[2016-12-05 21:50:40] Mm bot : I know, that green dildo did it for ETH
[2016-12-05 21:50:43] Tetsuo : sleger: are u short (hedged)
[2016-12-05 21:50:54] mjones : i longed into that 0.008590 margin call wall. #winning
[2016-12-05 21:51:01] sleger : no im long
[2016-12-05 21:51:14] Mm bot : Strength of bounce looks good
[2016-12-05 21:52:36] Mm bot : ETH closing short position
[2016-12-05 21:52:56] Tetsuo : sleger: margin long?
[2016-12-05 21:53:01] sleger : no
[2016-12-05 21:53:08] sleger : bagholder
[2016-12-05 21:53:14] Tetsuo : that´s ok
[2016-12-05 21:55:57] MrRGnome : sleger: where you holding from if you don't mind sharing? I almost got caught - rather did get caught, bag holding from 0.018, but I traded my way out in profit at ~0.014 and haven't touched the meth since, until today.
[2016-12-05 21:56:29] mjones : zec bouncing
[2016-12-05 21:56:59] sleger : MrRGnome: my avg buy in price was 0.014, but i sold 25% at 0.013 and bought those back at 0.009 so around 0.013
[2016-12-05 21:58:07] MrRGnome : well good luck, it's a crappy position to have to dig out of but I'm sure you'll pull it out.
[2016-12-05 21:58:14] thiago : how the f should i guesstimate is already the bottom geez smudger
[2016-12-05 21:58:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.008870