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[2016-12-02 15:28:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 22500 @ 783.56
[2016-12-02 15:28:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 5000 @ 782.74
[2016-12-02 15:28:49] numero : lolol
[2016-12-02 15:28:50] wurstgelee : lol ;)
[2016-12-02 15:28:51] mjones : 5364
[2016-12-02 15:28:52] mjones : wtf
[2016-12-02 15:28:56] wurstgelee : Hahaha
[2016-12-02 15:29:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 770.01
[2016-12-02 15:29:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.010465
[2016-12-02 15:29:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2100 @ 780.50
[2016-12-02 15:29:05] Rado : wow
[2016-12-02 15:29:06] Rado : fun
[2016-12-02 15:29:10] mjones : 5320 CNY okcoin hit
[2016-12-02 15:29:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30000 @ 768.99
[2016-12-02 15:29:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6591 @ 769.43
[2016-12-02 15:29:44] mjones : wish i sold at $800 to buy back in now
[2016-12-02 15:29:58] Rado : mjones: he he
[2016-12-02 15:30:02] Rado : it's hard to know
[2016-12-02 15:30:10] mjones : yeah
[2016-12-02 15:30:33] mjones : glad i didnt close to long higher. didnt get rekt
[2016-12-02 15:30:38] thiago : i want my mom
[2016-12-02 15:31:17] oz : the wild ride that is bitcoin
[2016-12-02 15:31:25] blaat : holy fuck
[2016-12-02 15:31:27] blaat : :D
[2016-12-02 15:31:36] mjones : no big margin calls though.
[2016-12-02 15:31:45] Nerve : holy crap
[2016-12-02 15:32:04] blaat : 200cny candle, noice
[2016-12-02 15:32:08] thiago : from 0.8 to -1,3
[2016-12-02 15:32:20] Savag3coiner : nice explosion at 780usd
[2016-12-02 15:32:37] Savag3coiner : screen all sorts of lit up with orders executing
[2016-12-02 15:32:37] l3f : The fuck was that/
[2016-12-02 15:32:42] l3f : What the fuck was that?
[2016-12-02 15:32:52] Nerve : i think the dump is not over yet
[2016-12-02 15:32:59] mjones : china orderbook is all fluff. price can go both ways with ease
[2016-12-02 15:33:14] Rado : mjones: was this China?
[2016-12-02 15:33:26] mjones : always is
[2016-12-02 15:33:29] thiago : I almost got liquidated all account x.x
[2016-12-02 15:33:30] Rado : not always
[2016-12-02 15:33:31] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt
[2016-12-02 15:33:36] l3f : Oh btw the twitter bot is out
[2016-12-02 15:33:40] mjones : nice
[2016-12-02 15:34:03] l3f : How many longs got shlonged
[2016-12-02 15:34:04] Rado : nice
[2016-12-02 15:34:32] elmorte : fat finger?
[2016-12-02 15:34:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4000 @ 771.35
[2016-12-02 15:34:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25 @ 771.86
[2016-12-02 15:34:36] m3s : this is scary stuff bitcoin!
[2016-12-02 15:34:51] Nerve : i got rekt
[2016-12-02 15:34:55] Rado : Not affiliated with the "REKT" bot in Bitmex chat.
[2016-12-02 15:35:06] l3f : Rado: yeah I didn't make REKT
[2016-12-02 15:35:11] elmorte : thiago: hahaha, let's go champ
[2016-12-02 15:35:16] l3f : I wanted to that to be clear
[2016-12-02 15:35:28] l3f : I wanted *that* to be clear*
[2016-12-02 15:35:34] Rado : cool
[2016-12-02 15:36:06] thiago : COME AT ME AGAIN BRO
[2016-12-02 15:36:23] elmorte : yeah, micmix made the REKT bot
[2016-12-02 15:36:40] thiago : just so I can get the f uck out, pretty pls...
[2016-12-02 15:36:53] Rado : thiago: what is your entry price?
[2016-12-02 15:37:02] thiago : 774
[2016-12-02 15:37:11] thiago : 150000 contracts
[2016-12-02 15:37:16] Rado : you can get out now
[2016-12-02 15:37:20] Rado : never too late
[2016-12-02 15:37:27] elmorte : short or long @thiago ?
[2016-12-02 15:37:32] Rado : long
[2016-12-02 15:37:39] thiago : long at 774,61
[2016-12-02 15:37:53] thiago : more than -1 xbt
[2016-12-02 15:38:25] Rado : thiago: better than -5 XBT
[2016-12-02 15:38:29] l3f : Why did it flash crash?
[2016-12-02 15:38:33] l3f : and then flash rise back?
[2016-12-02 15:38:44] Rado : l3f: someone used the pop to sell big amount
[2016-12-02 15:38:45] thiago : Rado: LOL we buddies now lol
[2016-12-02 15:38:49] elmorte : maybe someone market closed a large position? Was it just here?
[2016-12-02 15:38:52] Rado : that's what I would do if I want to sell
[2016-12-02 15:39:00] l3f : and that #rekt everyone
[2016-12-02 15:39:14] l3f : a shit load of longs got cascade rekt
[2016-12-02 15:39:19] Rado : elmorte: not here
[2016-12-02 15:39:25] Rado : on one of the exchanges
[2016-12-02 15:39:26] thiago : Its wolong page 3, test pump (not kidding)
[2016-12-02 15:39:37] Rado : if you go dig the orders you can find which exchange started it
[2016-12-02 15:39:38] l3f : thiago: I see you have converted to the book of wolong
[2016-12-02 15:39:59] elmorte : oh ok...I'm looking at the last 15m candle here...
[2016-12-02 15:40:14] thiago : l3f: all knowledge is stored for later consultation
[2016-12-02 15:43:47] thiago : my liq. price was 764.86 and I survived..
[2016-12-02 15:43:53] Rado : I am starting to build an ETC position
[2016-12-02 15:43:57] l3f : I fed it a shit tone of margin
[2016-12-02 15:44:01] l3f : liq price 723
[2016-12-02 15:44:06] l3f : you fucks better not hit that too hard
[2016-12-02 15:44:11] martinium : thiago: index saved your ass
[2016-12-02 15:44:17] martinium : :)
[2016-12-02 15:45:05] Rado : funding never got high
[2016-12-02 15:45:10] thiago : I have 0.3 XBT spare, can I feed it to lower my liquidation?
[2016-12-02 15:45:12] Rado : only 0.1 and 0.12 %
[2016-12-02 15:45:42] Rado : thiago: it's already using it if you are at cross
[2016-12-02 15:45:43] Nerve : 0.75 BTC out of my wallet again...
[2016-12-02 15:46:04] thiago : Rado: Im at 50x
[2016-12-02 15:46:05] Nerve : i had liq price 772.55
[2016-12-02 15:46:17] Rado : thiago: move it to cross then
[2016-12-02 15:46:27] habibi : thiago: let's liquidate u! :)
[2016-12-02 15:46:38] Rado : Nerve: :(
[2016-12-02 15:46:39] thiago : Rado: 100x ?
[2016-12-02 15:46:44] Rado : thiago: cross
[2016-12-02 15:47:01] thiago : ...
[2016-12-02 15:47:06] Rado : before 1x
[2016-12-02 15:47:23] m3s : what does cross margin mean ?
[2016-12-02 15:47:28] thiago : done
[2016-12-02 15:47:45] Rado : thiago: did it help much?
[2016-12-02 15:47:48] l3f : m3s: it means lose all of my money
[2016-12-02 15:47:52] l3f : if I get liquidated
[2016-12-02 15:48:11] l3f : rather than just my margin
[2016-12-02 15:48:12] thiago : now is at 763.59. thank you
[2016-12-02 15:48:35] Rado : by the way guys prices always revert to the mean
[2016-12-02 15:48:39] m3s : l3f: ah, thank you. but then your whole account is your margin?
[2016-12-02 15:48:49] l3f : m3s: yes
[2016-12-02 15:48:57] m3s : l3f: thanks for the info
[2016-12-02 15:49:18] l3f : m3s: docs is your friend
[2016-12-02 15:49:20] l3f : https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin#Cross-Margin
[2016-12-02 15:49:27] m3s : thanky again
[2016-12-02 15:49:30] Rado : even if we drop all the way to 755 the bullish trend will not be broken
[2016-12-02 15:49:31] m3s : s*
[2016-12-02 15:50:25] Rado : ETH dump
[2016-12-02 15:53:37] m3s : eth bubble is truly over
[2016-12-02 15:56:10] sleger : grab your eth while its cheap
[2016-12-02 15:56:49] Rado : I am actually going to buy some
[2016-12-02 15:56:52] BitMEX_Greg : m3s: Let me know if you have any other questions about the margin systems
[2016-12-02 15:56:53] Rado : but only for a scalp
[2016-12-02 15:58:59] mjones : BitMEX_Greg: are you going to increase the risk limit for 100x on xbtz16 or the new one in 2 weeks? it is higher on swap
[2016-12-02 15:59:29] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: I'll bring it up
[2016-12-02 15:59:42] mjones : thanks
[2016-12-02 15:59:51] l3f : So now I sleep
[2016-12-02 16:00:09] l3f : and pray that rekt doesn't come to me
[2016-12-02 16:00:35] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: Most probably we will raise on H
[2016-12-02 16:01:21] sleger : quaterly is more risky than perp swap, it is normal it has lower risk limit
[2016-12-02 16:01:22] mjones : 16th still the day for H?
[2016-12-02 16:01:57] mjones : yeah swap can swing like crazy. but if you open a 100x at the bottom and it pumps $100 then you can leave your position for weeks and be safe most likely (in bull market)
[2016-12-02 16:02:06] mjones : i mean not swap but quarterly *
[2016-12-02 16:03:10] mjones : for example a mega dump happens and large liquidation is sitting at the bottom. 100x long all you can into that and price bounces hard and never goes back down. = win
[2016-12-02 16:03:14] sleger : liquidity is lower, if someone wants a 200btc position they need more than 0.5% maintenance margin
[2016-12-02 16:03:35] Rado : ETH bouncing
[2016-12-02 16:03:36] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-02 16:03:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.009940
[2016-12-02 16:03:54] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah the liquidity is increasing now however
[2016-12-02 16:04:01] BitMEX_Greg : We are seeing more market makers come in
[2016-12-02 16:04:35] BitMEX_Greg : The swap definitely has more liquidity so it can absorb large liquidations easier
[2016-12-02 16:07:56] sleger : yes it has more so you can have larger positions with 0.5% maintenance margin on the swap compared to quaterly, which is the only thing i have been saying
[2016-12-02 16:08:41] muirtastic : I've liked BitMEX for a long time and main drawback was lack of liquidity, but it does seem to have improved a great deal over the last several months
[2016-12-02 16:09:09] muirtastic : I'm sure can thank Bitfinex hijinks for much of that, but this is also a solid platform and more people are being turned on to it
[2016-12-02 16:10:09] BitMEX_Greg : It depends how you look at liquidity, we have always had a large market maker quoting on the platform so spreads and depth have always been attractive. But yes more recently we have seen more traders who are taking volume, which is the liquidity aspect that some bitcoin traders prefer
[2016-12-02 16:13:16] muirtastic : Yes I have never thought the spreads were bad but I need volume to get in and out of a good sized position. without too much slippage. But it's at much better levels now and still improving.
[2016-12-02 16:13:24] sleger : bitflyer price @ 806 ???
[2016-12-02 16:14:11] Rado : sleger: Japanese are crazy
[2016-12-02 16:14:35] sleger : it went to 826, no they are not crazy they are leading the way
[2016-12-02 16:17:36] thiago : what, "Avail" means?
[2016-12-02 16:17:43] thiago : the amount left ..
[2016-12-02 16:18:16] mjones : where do you see that?
[2016-12-02 16:18:29] thiago : top right corner
[2016-12-02 16:19:18] sleger : it's what s avail.....able
[2016-12-02 16:20:10] thiago : its funny how my crazy ex gf prepared me well for this. . .
[2016-12-02 16:25:09] elmorte : go on...
[2016-12-02 16:26:21] thiago : when shit get too crazy normal people cry or get sad. . .
[2016-12-02 16:27:57] thiago : traders just get rekt and write a twitter bot for lols
[2016-12-02 16:28:12] Mike17 : is time to bay at good prise jiji
[2016-12-02 16:31:08] thiago : going up
[2016-12-02 16:32:13] wurstgelee : u guys should use the 1 min chart less :p
[2016-12-02 16:32:19] wurstgelee : a lot less
[2016-12-02 16:32:34] thiago : lol
[2016-12-02 16:32:44] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-02 16:32:53] Rado : my default is 30 min
[2016-12-02 16:33:03] thiago : 5455. . .
[2016-12-02 16:33:14] thiago : 5455 *
[2016-12-02 16:33:22] wurstgelee : i use low tf and the lowest i use is 5min
[2016-12-02 16:33:30] wurstgelee : for entry and exit.finding ;)
[2016-12-02 16:35:55] Rado : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyrvhIHWEAAWYD0.jpg
[2016-12-02 16:36:17] wurstgelee : Rado: saw that on twitter
[2016-12-02 16:36:19] wurstgelee : i laughed
[2016-12-02 16:36:25] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-02 16:36:26] wurstgelee : pretty accurate
[2016-12-02 16:38:12] thiago : lol
[2016-12-02 16:38:26] thiago : I watch every step, its my freaking money
[2016-12-02 16:39:06] wurstgelee : it doesnt help you
[2016-12-02 16:39:26] wurstgelee : if u have a good entry and you are confident towards your trade, you shouldnt bother
[2016-12-02 16:39:34] wurstgelee : if u dont have and are not, you are in the wrong trade
[2016-12-02 16:39:36] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-12-02 16:42:47] thiago : I always think of a "wall street warriors" episode when Tim Sykes lost money because wasting time doing interview lol
[2016-12-02 16:44:45] wurstgelee : that might be the case, especially with high leverage, but you'll do better in the long run with not taking fomo entries and exits. which you do if u watch 1 min chart ;)
[2016-12-02 16:44:59] wurstgelee : which isnt valid for educated long fomo ofc. that's the best fomo :D
[2016-12-02 16:45:43] thiago : Thanks for the toughts
[2016-12-02 16:47:59] wurstgelee : np. those are free and come with no guarantee :)
[2016-12-02 16:49:46] m3s : cmon bitcoin, drop another leg
[2016-12-02 16:55:18] wurstgelee : it didnt really drop tho. just btc's signature fuck-u-all move
[2016-12-02 16:56:39] thiago : if you blinked for a second is still up
[2016-12-02 16:57:23] ScottJ : failed chinese dump
[2016-12-02 16:58:41] wurstgelee : no, that was a stop run
[2016-12-02 16:58:44] wurstgelee : not a dump attempt
[2016-12-02 16:59:15] Coconuter : why is the website layout bugued for Android smartphones
[2016-12-02 16:59:25] Coconuter : ?
[2016-12-02 16:59:33] wurstgelee : mc shorts firstr, mc late longs immediately after, retrace to previous situation: btc's signatur fuck-u-move
[2016-12-02 16:59:36] Coconuter : i couldnt login
[2016-12-02 16:59:44] wurstgelee : can occur in opposite way ofc, first mc longs, then shorts ;)
[2016-12-02 16:59:45] BitMEX_Greg : Coconuter: What issues are you encounting?
[2016-12-02 16:59:52] Coconuter : the login fields
[2016-12-02 16:59:57] Coconuter : are totally wrong
[2016-12-02 17:00:00] Coconuter : on a galaxy s5
[2016-12-02 17:00:07] wurstgelee : sec
[2016-12-02 17:00:08] Coconuter : on index page
[2016-12-02 17:00:37] wurstgelee : Coconuter: looks fine on an s6 with chrome mobile
[2016-12-02 17:00:44] BitMEX_Greg : Do you mind taking a screenshot on your phone and sending to us at support@bitmex.com? I will bring it up with Sam
[2016-12-02 17:00:45] wurstgelee : *-n
[2016-12-02 17:00:49] aethlios : turkish lira another currency that collapses, so btc soon will have many new people interested in it.
[2016-12-02 17:00:49] Coconuter : hmmmm i have the root browser
[2016-12-02 17:00:53] Coconuter : ok
[2016-12-02 17:01:02] Coconuter : ill try other browser also
[2016-12-02 17:01:04] wurstgelee : Coconuter: close browser/new tab, same problem?
[2016-12-02 17:01:05] BitMEX_Greg : Thanks
[2016-12-02 17:01:23] Coconuter : wurstgelee: yes the login field and pass are vertical and cant click on it
[2016-12-02 17:01:28] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-12-02 17:01:30] Coconuter : its the browser that came with the smartphone
[2016-12-02 17:01:33] wurstgelee : that seems weird
[2016-12-02 17:01:47] wurstgelee : dl chrome mobile and check with that
[2016-12-02 17:01:49] wurstgelee : should work
[2016-12-02 17:02:30] Coconuter : yeah but
[2016-12-02 17:02:40] Coconuter : only page that didnt worked so far was bitmex
[2016-12-02 17:02:43] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 17:03:52] BitMEX_Sam : Coconuter: I've seen this - built-in Android browser has awful modern CSS support
[2016-12-02 17:04:09] BitMEX_Sam : I haven't been able to recreate it on any of the simulators because that particular browser is Samsung-specific
[2016-12-02 17:04:31] BitMEX_Sam : It basically never gets patched. Aside from its awful CSS rendering I highly recommend you switch, there are several critical Webkit bugs in those browsers
[2016-12-02 17:04:50] Coconuter : sent to the support
[2016-12-02 17:04:59] Coconuter : yea but first time i see a bug on this browser
[2016-12-02 17:05:02] Coconuter : just sharing anyways
[2016-12-02 17:05:05] Coconuter : :)
[2016-12-02 17:05:12] Coconuter : ill try different browsers
[2016-12-02 17:05:18] Coconuter : if im getting this imagine how many are
[2016-12-02 17:05:27] Coconuter : loging in to the index with root browser
[2016-12-02 17:05:32] Coconuter : and seeing a bugued index
[2016-12-02 17:06:15] BitMEX_Sam : Coconuter: Yeah I don't like it either, but I can't even recreate the bug. Maybe you can help - what version of Android are you on?
[2016-12-02 17:07:03] Coconuter : 6.0.1
[2016-12-02 17:08:52] wurstgelee : switch browser :)
[2016-12-02 17:09:00] BitMEX_Sam : Alright, that helps - thanks @Coconuter
[2016-12-02 17:09:13] sleger : even easier : throw your android in a garbage, buy an iphone
[2016-12-02 17:09:40] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: didn't think you were an apple guy
[2016-12-02 17:10:32] sleger : not really, i only own an iphone, one macbook pro, 2 apple tvs, 2 ipads
[2016-12-02 17:10:47] Coconuter : sleger: lol give me one for xmassss
[2016-12-02 17:11:21] elmorte : My daughter uses an iPad...those things are sturdy
[2016-12-02 17:11:50] Coconuter : i have a iPad but i dont usually take it to lunch on the streets
[2016-12-02 17:12:16] elmorte : I don't usually let her lunch on the streets either
[2016-12-02 17:12:28] thiago : dont lunch on the streets bro. ur bitcoims gonna get murked
[2016-12-02 17:13:42] Coconuter : i always have lunch on restaurants i only cook for dinner
[2016-12-02 17:13:49] Coconuter : to messy to do lunch everyday at home
[2016-12-02 17:13:58] Coconuter : my slaves got dismissed with this brazilian crysis
[2016-12-02 17:15:13] arbitrage001 : why o why is the funding so low
[2016-12-02 17:15:21] thiago : the best solution to brasil is. . . the airport
[2016-12-02 17:16:25] elmorte : Unless....#ForcaChape
[2016-12-02 17:16:39] thiago : LOL
[2016-12-02 17:16:44] Coconuter : in 9 days im out
[2016-12-02 17:16:57] Coconuter : at the airport me and my 2 frenchies
[2016-12-02 17:17:00] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 17:17:18] arbitrage001 : Coconuter: need a python coder?
[2016-12-02 17:17:29] arbitrage001 : <-----
[2016-12-02 17:17:36] thiago : beat me to it lol
[2016-12-02 17:17:53] thiago : I can make lunch
[2016-12-02 17:18:05] Coconuter : arbitrage001: well man for now i have many programmers in india and brazil
[2016-12-02 17:18:24] arbitrage001 : Coconuter: how much they normally get pay?
[2016-12-02 17:18:27] Coconuter : but once i get the proper funding i need ill hire 100+ people directly
[2016-12-02 17:18:55] Coconuter : arbitrage001: dude we go in bulks rather than per hour which they make something wrong from wireframes they need to redo it properly
[2016-12-02 17:19:11] Coconuter : once they trust and like your idea and are proud of developing it and showing to friends, family etc
[2016-12-02 17:19:16] Coconuter : its even cheapper
[2016-12-02 17:19:18] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 17:19:24] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-12-02 17:19:25] Coconuter : since they know they can grow with the project
[2016-12-02 17:19:33] Coconuter : usually is 10U$ per hour
[2016-12-02 17:19:40] Coconuter : but we have more than one working at a time
[2016-12-02 17:19:54] Coconuter : i dont focus on the price per hour but the return and quality of development
[2016-12-02 17:20:00] arbitrage001 : how do you get big project?
[2016-12-02 17:20:08] Coconuter : i invest my own money
[2016-12-02 17:20:10] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 17:20:12] arbitrage001 : or you deal directly with market?
[2016-12-02 17:20:22] Coconuter : i only invest on my own projects now
[2016-12-02 17:20:29] Coconuter : but i can handle others
[2016-12-02 17:20:45] Coconuter : in USA ill build a agency to materialize others project dreams
[2016-12-02 17:21:01] Coconuter : i like crypto because it will be used on all my projects as payments
[2016-12-02 17:21:02] arbitrage001 : like freelancer?
[2016-12-02 17:21:05] Coconuter : smart contracts etc
[2016-12-02 17:21:19] Coconuter : freelancer you need to test them right
[2016-12-02 17:21:29] arbitrage001 : i use it once before
[2016-12-02 17:21:31] Coconuter : its hard to find good people with quality in return of the work
[2016-12-02 17:21:36] arbitrage001 : dont think i will ever use it again
[2016-12-02 17:21:37] Coconuter : took me 2-3 years
[2016-12-02 17:21:40] Coconuter : to build a good team
[2016-12-02 17:21:44] Coconuter : yep
[2016-12-02 17:21:59] Coconuter : its hard but if you work hard also you end up with good people
[2016-12-02 17:22:34] Coconuter : just like bitmex team
[2016-12-02 17:22:40] Coconuter : you think it was easy to build this platform ?
[2016-12-02 17:22:40] arbitrage001 : yea
[2016-12-02 17:22:45] arbitrage001 : i can tell they work very hard
[2016-12-02 17:22:46] Coconuter : better than the others competitors
[2016-12-02 17:22:52] elmorte : arbitrage001: not sleeping yet?
[2016-12-02 17:22:56] arbitrage001 : bitfinex, on the other hand
[2016-12-02 17:22:57] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 17:23:05] arbitrage001 : suck hard
[2016-12-02 17:23:09] Coconuter : bitfinex man i tould what saved me from the hack
[2016-12-02 17:23:14] arbitrage001 : elmorte: night owl here
[2016-12-02 17:23:16] Coconuter : i opened a big long and a stoploss
[2016-12-02 17:23:24] Coconuter : closed manually the long in profit
[2016-12-02 17:23:25] elmorte : haha, nice
[2016-12-02 17:23:30] Coconuter : but the stoploss didnt appeared on the order book
[2016-12-02 17:23:35] Coconuter : due to a BUG on theyre website
[2016-12-02 17:23:45] Coconuter : so when i returned all profit was negative due the hidden stoploss
[2016-12-02 17:23:47] Coconuter : trigerred
[2016-12-02 17:24:12] Coconuter : i took all out and 2 weeks later there was the hack
[2016-12-02 17:24:19] Coconuter : so bad things usually happens for a good reason
[2016-12-02 17:24:21] Coconuter : :)
[2016-12-02 17:24:23] elmorte : we have a different name for a negative profit here....
[2016-12-02 17:24:34] arbitrage001 : elmorte: just finish jogging, then finally able to get threads to fetch ws data from here
[2016-12-02 17:24:39] Coconuter : loss ?
[2016-12-02 17:24:41] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 17:24:52] elmorte : arbitrage001: damn son, it's raining!
[2016-12-02 17:25:02] elmorte : Coconuter: haha...
[2016-12-02 17:25:04] arbitrage001 : elmorte: yes, every day for the last 2 weeks
[2016-12-02 17:25:15] arbitrage001 : raining is good, i stay home and watch porn
[2016-12-02 17:25:24] arbitrage001 : and working on python code
[2016-12-02 17:25:25] Coconuter : how come a multi million brooker doesnt cancel the Stoploss of a contract
[2016-12-02 17:25:31] Coconuter : after it closed the contract
[2016-12-02 17:25:32] Coconuter : automaticlly
[2016-12-02 17:25:38] Coconuter : this is on purpouse
[2016-12-02 17:25:50] Coconuter : same as Okcoin with those fake stoploss junting volume
[2016-12-02 17:25:58] Coconuter : hunting
[2016-12-02 17:26:11] elmorte : arbitrage001: the good old days...
[2016-12-02 17:26:23] arbitrage001 : Coconuter: yes, finex platform have a lot of unresolved bugs
[2016-12-02 17:26:32] arbitrage001 : "known bug"
[2016-12-02 17:26:51] elmorte : Coconuter: I wouldn't call finex a multimillion broker even if the definition sticks...
[2016-12-02 17:26:56] Coconuter : yep its on purpose
[2016-12-02 17:27:13] Coconuter : well they had stolen 70million from clients
[2016-12-02 17:27:14] arbitrage001 : not sure why they dont use some of their profit to hire a competent coder
[2016-12-02 17:27:17] Coconuter : so this is a multi million broker
[2016-12-02 17:28:16] arbitrage001 : they stay around in business because there isn't another good exchange yet
[2016-12-02 17:28:31] arbitrage001 : time is changing, they will run out of time
[2016-12-02 17:28:50] elmorte : I don't know man....it's getting harder to accept fiat
[2016-12-02 17:28:59] elmorte : just look at our local exchanges
[2016-12-02 17:29:04] arbitrage001 : singapore alone has 2 exchanges
[2016-12-02 17:29:13] arbitrage001 : hong kong, a few also
[2016-12-02 17:29:17] elmorte : true....HK has a fw too
[2016-12-02 17:29:52] arbitrage001 : US still have gemini
[2016-12-02 17:29:55] arbitrage001 : and coinbase
[2016-12-02 17:30:04] elmorte : arbitrage001: US is different story
[2016-12-02 17:30:18] Coconuter : coinbase will tell everyone that purchased bitcoin with them
[2016-12-02 17:30:22] Coconuter : so they pay taxes of the bitcoins
[2016-12-02 17:30:48] elmorte : Coconuter: does that mean you can write off the losses as well?
[2016-12-02 17:30:56] Coconuter : yep lol
[2016-12-02 17:31:03] elmorte : well then....
[2016-12-02 17:31:05] Coconuter : but who ever buys and hold
[2016-12-02 17:31:22] Coconuter : only get losses in BTC if theres nothing more the purchase in the world
[2016-12-02 17:31:25] Coconuter : on the long run
[2016-12-02 17:31:49] arbitrage001 : Coconuter: only group of trader who benefit a lot are horders
[2016-12-02 17:32:06] arbitrage001 : buy and dont watch price for a few years
[2016-12-02 17:32:28] arbitrage001 : wake up one day, 50 dollars investment become a few hundreds k
[2016-12-02 17:32:28] Coconuter : yep
[2016-12-02 17:32:46] Coconuter : since i got scammed by other brokers im here to recover it
[2016-12-02 17:32:57] Coconuter : in 3 days i recovered it but im greedy so im leaving it openned
[2016-12-02 17:33:03] Coconuter : LOL god help us
[2016-12-02 17:33:36] thiago : lol
[2016-12-02 17:33:40] Coconuter : at least stoploss is at break even
[2016-12-02 17:33:47] Coconuter : :)
[2016-12-02 17:34:17] thiago : talking about that..
[2016-12-02 17:34:46] thiago : I tried to close my position on that big short.. no chance
[2016-12-02 17:35:03] elmorte : thiago: oh yeah, when I had a really bad position, I moved over most of my coins here to support the margin. Lasted it out eventually
[2016-12-02 17:36:03] Coconuter : thiago: its volatily market you cant even open the order on those moves
[2016-12-02 17:36:26] thiago : by lasted you mean... wait until the red goes away back to normal? @elmorte
[2016-12-02 17:36:45] elmorte : Almost...it went from -15BTC to -2.3
[2016-12-02 17:37:20] thiago : Coconuter: yep.. but if you are on stop loss you can.... so...
[2016-12-02 17:37:31] elmorte : I think it was the early August dump? I remember we landed in Istanbul airport and my messages just went crazy
[2016-12-02 17:37:51] elmorte : Great start to a holiday too
[2016-12-02 17:38:17] elmorte : Late July more like it
[2016-12-02 17:38:39] thiago : elmorte: cant figure out if your name is elmo rte or el morte
[2016-12-02 17:38:49] elmorte : Collected great funding in the process so that helped
[2016-12-02 17:38:51] elmorte : It's El Morte
[2016-12-02 17:39:13] elmorte : But friends call me elmo :)
[2016-12-02 17:44:44] elmorte : Eth gonna go down some more or good to buy in now?
[2016-12-02 17:58:45] Mike17 : btc up
[2016-12-02 18:00:10] Coconuter : elmorte: after the dao hack i took everything out
[2016-12-02 18:00:22] Coconuter : from eth at 17-18U$ when i waked up to the panic
[2016-12-02 18:00:30] elmorte : TheDAO fcked things up majorly...
[2016-12-02 18:00:34] Coconuter : since then every possibility of making 100% profit the whales jump in
[2016-12-02 18:00:45] elmorte : I can't believe they still haven't recovered....
[2016-12-02 18:00:52] Coconuter : i saw that a unexpected fork happened past few days
[2016-12-02 18:00:59] elmorte : Most of these trust issues stem from there
[2016-12-02 18:01:10] Coconuter : so people are bettin ethereum will keep falling
[2016-12-02 18:01:18] Coconuter : and that etc the first real one will rise
[2016-12-02 18:01:31] elmorte : Well, it depends on the hash power
[2016-12-02 18:01:33] BitMEX_Sam : Coconuter: Hey, could you try out https://testnet.bitmex.com on your S5
[2016-12-02 18:01:35] Coconuter : yep they screwed up if not eth would be like 20-30U$ now
[2016-12-02 18:01:54] elmorte : I was monitoring it very closely after the fork and ETC rise
[2016-12-02 18:02:24] Coconuter : BitMEX_Sam: much better now i can see the fields
[2016-12-02 18:02:28] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Great!
[2016-12-02 18:02:33] Coconuter : the login table is just not centralized
[2016-12-02 18:02:43] Coconuter : :) im a perfeccionist
[2016-12-02 18:02:46] Coconuter : lollllz
[2016-12-02 18:03:14] Coconuter : but now anyone with root browser on S5 can login
[2016-12-02 18:03:38] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, that's a big improvement. Thanks for helping me find that.
[2016-12-02 18:03:38] Coconuter : thanks
[2016-12-02 18:06:43] inconspic : hmm how come the zec future almost is at price parity with the actual price when there's 27d left
[2016-12-02 18:06:56] inconspic : and the supply will almost double since then
[2016-12-02 18:07:21] inconspic : bit strange that people are so optimistic?
[2016-12-02 18:09:44] elmorte : maybe the market has already accounted for the increase in supply?
[2016-12-02 18:10:19] arbitrage001 : roger ver said zcash is good for humanity
[2016-12-02 18:10:26] arbitrage001 : so, we are buying
[2016-12-02 18:10:35] inconspic : haha :)
[2016-12-02 18:10:49] arbitrage001 : all hail hitler!
[2016-12-02 18:10:56] inconspic : I'm more hopeful about Monero
[2016-12-02 18:11:00] arbitrage001 : i mean All hail regoer ver !
[2016-12-02 18:11:55] elmorte : arbitrage001: how are you buying your btc now? Overseas?
[2016-12-02 18:12:19] arbitrage001 : on wallet
[2016-12-02 18:12:30] arbitrage001 : you mean buying btc?
[2016-12-02 18:12:36] arbitrage001 : i always use lbc
[2016-12-02 18:12:54] arbitrage001 : are you sure bitx and coinbox are banned here?
[2016-12-02 18:13:07] elmorte : Nothing's banned here
[2016-12-02 18:13:17] elmorte : We spoke about them before
[2016-12-02 18:13:42] arbitrage001 : bank account is frozen?
[2016-12-02 18:13:44] elmorte : I said how coinbox was dodgy as fck but you never had a prob
[2016-12-02 18:14:13] elmorte : Yeah, so BitX was allowed only withdrawals in the last week or so by CIMB
[2016-12-02 18:14:24] elmorte : and Coinbox had their accounts suspended by Maybank
[2016-12-02 18:14:24] arbitrage001 : what do they do now?
[2016-12-02 18:14:37] elmorte : Well, BitX still has other markets...
[2016-12-02 18:14:38] arbitrage001 : create more bank account?
[2016-12-02 18:14:49] elmorte : I'm sure they tried...
[2016-12-02 18:14:57] elmorte : BitX started having issues on 9.11.
[2016-12-02 18:15:05] arbitrage001 : just register like 20 bank accounts
[2016-12-02 18:15:05] elmorte : And were saying hang on, we'll sort it out...
[2016-12-02 18:15:23] elmorte : THen boom, they just said withdraw your fiat by 1.12, that's it
[2016-12-02 18:15:37] arbitrage001 : bank negara is banning oversea ringgit trading
[2016-12-02 18:15:56] arbitrage001 : they think oversea trading is why ringgit going down the sink
[2016-12-02 18:16:01] elmorte : Yeah, that was my first though
[2016-12-02 18:16:04] elmorte : thought
[2016-12-02 18:16:13] arbitrage001 : and banning them will somehow bring rinngging up
[2016-12-02 18:17:14] arbitrage001 : as the currency drop more, they will probably tighten bank accounts in and out
[2016-12-02 18:17:36] arbitrage001 : anything fishy and they will investigate for money laundry
[2016-12-02 18:17:50] elmorte : Same reason Tun M banned RM500 & 1000 bills
[2016-12-02 18:17:59] elmorte : during AFC 97
[2016-12-02 18:18:23] arbitrage001 : nice we have some retard running the country
[2016-12-02 18:19:01] elmorte : Haha, careful, this chat is public....you don't want IGP tweeting you
[2016-12-02 18:21:34] Coconuter : talking about 9.11
[2016-12-02 18:21:41] Coconuter : on this reality all wtc buildings was destroyed
[2016-12-02 18:21:46] elmorte : 9th Nov in most of the world
[2016-12-02 18:21:57] Coconuter : i got amazed with that since prior reality only 1 ,2 and 7 was destroyed
[2016-12-02 18:22:04] Coconuter : crazy times
[2016-12-02 18:22:58] elmorte : I'm still amazed by the Pentagon plane
[2016-12-02 18:23:25] Coconuter : check out now in this reality the pentagon is different also
[2016-12-02 18:23:37] Coconuter : the collapsed part
[2016-12-02 18:23:50] Coconuter : many things are changing
[2016-12-02 18:24:12] Coconuter : only thing that isnt happening is the my btc wallet increasing by itself
[2016-12-02 18:24:22] Coconuter : maybe one day :)
[2016-12-02 18:27:47] elmorte : Coconuter: You already have your company set up in the States? Bank accounts n all?
[2016-12-02 18:28:04] Coconuter : yes
[2016-12-02 18:28:10] thiago : elmorte: me too lol
[2016-12-02 18:28:14] elmorte : Cool, was that a lot of work?
[2016-12-02 18:28:23] Coconuter : well a bit
[2016-12-02 18:28:24] arbitrage001 : can foreigner easily set up a bank account in US?
[2016-12-02 18:28:28] Coconuter : the llc you can open online
[2016-12-02 18:28:31] Coconuter : in 24 hours
[2016-12-02 18:28:36] elmorte : thiago: nice one...what business you doing there?
[2016-12-02 18:28:38] zanza : HOLY FK ETH
[2016-12-02 18:28:39] Coconuter : the bank account you need to go there and open
[2016-12-02 18:28:52] elmorte : Yeah, same as HK
[2016-12-02 18:28:56] arbitrage001 : lol, eth sinking
[2016-12-02 18:29:08] arbitrage001 : elmorte: easy to get a bank account in hk?
[2016-12-02 18:29:16] elmorte : No, not anymore
[2016-12-02 18:29:20] zanza : ETH is on sale according to /r/ethtrader
[2016-12-02 18:29:24] zanza : load up
[2016-12-02 18:29:32] elmorte : I can fwd you some email if you like @arbitrage001
[2016-12-02 18:29:33] Coconuter : 10 years ago i opened a acount at madrid spain
[2016-12-02 18:29:35] Coconuter : via email
[2016-12-02 18:29:47] Coconuter : after those false flags of 9.11 everything got worst
[2016-12-02 18:30:04] elmorte : 2008 crisis as well
[2016-12-02 18:30:13] Coconuter : more the anti terror thing
[2016-12-02 18:30:23] elmorte : Lotta banks did a lotta shady stuff
[2016-12-02 18:30:32] elmorte : so that brought on more scrutiny
[2016-12-02 18:30:55] Coconuter : but the main focus still is the anti terrorist war
[2016-12-02 18:30:59] Coconuter : endless fake terrorists
[2016-12-02 18:31:08] Coconuter : cant wait for trump
[2016-12-02 18:31:31] Coconuter : hope he puts everyone in jail for faking everything
[2016-12-02 18:31:32] elmorte : I can't say, I haven't encountered that....mostly AML procedures
[2016-12-02 18:31:51] Coconuter : but its hard to put people worth trillions of dollars in jail
[2016-12-02 18:31:58] Coconuter : in a material world
[2016-12-02 18:32:07] Coconuter : lolz
[2016-12-02 18:32:10] elmorte : it's easier to have them on your side
[2016-12-02 18:32:18] arbitrage001 : Coconuter: not in russia
[2016-12-02 18:32:22] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 18:32:22] arbitrage001 : soviet
[2016-12-02 18:32:31] arbitrage001 : anyone can go to jail if you are on putin list
[2016-12-02 18:32:45] Coconuter : kkkkk except putin himself
[2016-12-02 18:32:51] elmorte : Putin or Gulags, your choice
[2016-12-02 18:32:55] arbitrage001 : he is a patriot
[2016-12-02 18:32:56] Coconuter : and his friends
[2016-12-02 18:33:01] arbitrage001 : in his own view
[2016-12-02 18:33:08] martinium : black dolphin
[2016-12-02 18:33:11] martinium : :-p
[2016-12-02 18:33:21] arbitrage001 : and russian generally view him as a hero
[2016-12-02 18:33:41] martinium : Putin is no bitch though
[2016-12-02 18:33:44] martinium : unlike Obama
[2016-12-02 18:34:00] martinium : Obama is a creampuff SJW liberal
[2016-12-02 18:34:00] Coconuter : obama is a puppet
[2016-12-02 18:34:10] Coconuter : i hope trump does well with the presidency