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[2016-12-02 03:58:35] sleger : looks so easy to arb
[2016-12-02 03:58:46] rapidtrades : disappointed with u guys
[2016-12-02 03:58:50] sleger : easy to withdraw and convert jpy anywhere
[2016-12-02 03:59:08] sleger : next funding rate of only 0.1% is really low
[2016-12-02 03:59:17] sleger : for a pump like that
[2016-12-02 03:59:22] rapidtrades : agree
[2016-12-02 03:59:52] rapidtrades : rotating into DEC wouldn't be the worst trade
[2016-12-02 04:00:24] martinium : as the funding hit price spike
[2016-12-02 04:00:34] sleger : looks like someone cant compute 0.1%
[2016-12-02 04:00:47] sleger : but that doesnt equal 3$
[2016-12-02 04:00:49] sleger : dummy
[2016-12-02 04:01:04] rapidtrades : more $$$ in next funding :)
[2016-12-02 04:01:05] mbaril : :p
[2016-12-02 04:02:23] martinium : I'm still waiting for profit taking for this resistance level
[2016-12-02 04:02:34] rapidtrades : usd/cnh rally looks to be over
[2016-12-02 04:02:44] martinium : euphoria might take us higher before dump
[2016-12-02 04:04:21] martinium : rapidtrades: USD/CNH isn't as big a BTC price mover as people think
[2016-12-02 04:04:57] zanza : I will take profit at $2k
[2016-12-02 04:05:04] zanza : BitCache is coming out remember
[2016-12-02 04:05:10] zanza : Kim Dotcom promisted 2k
[2016-12-02 04:06:26] sleger : good luck suing him in the seychelles
[2016-12-02 04:08:01] aethlios : let's get to the 000s area.
[2016-12-02 04:08:15] rapidtrades : eur/usd and gbp/usd downtrends look to be over too
[2016-12-02 04:09:32] rapidtrades : i see no fundamental reason for this BTC rally
[2016-12-02 04:10:21] sleger : capital controls china/india
[2016-12-02 04:12:02] rapidtrades : that would sink prices as we saw with that bloomberg screnshot
[2016-12-02 04:12:06] martinium : currency devaluations still happening
[2016-12-02 04:12:10] martinium : bitcoin ecosystem growing
[2016-12-02 04:12:21] martinium : many reasons for btc price appreciation
[2016-12-02 04:12:25] sleger : rapidtrades: what screenshot ?
[2016-12-02 04:13:26] rapidtrades : November 3rd crash
[2016-12-02 04:14:05] sleger : https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-11-03/bitcoin-s-at-it-again ?
[2016-12-02 04:14:41] rapidtrades : no
[2016-12-02 04:14:47] rapidtrades : did u forget already?
[2016-12-02 04:15:14] rapidtrades : http://imgur.com/a/3qoUC
[2016-12-02 04:15:18] sleger : too much champagne
[2016-12-02 04:15:35] sleger : oh ok
[2016-12-02 04:15:59] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-02 04:17:49] martinium : well higher we go
[2016-12-02 04:32:57] Rado : hey sleger
[2016-12-02 04:32:59] Rado : are you here?
[2016-12-02 04:34:54] zanza : press 1 if you are underwat
[2016-12-02 04:35:00] zanza : underwater
[2016-12-02 04:37:20] Rado : huh?
[2016-12-02 04:38:52] Rado : zanza: question for you
[2016-12-02 04:39:02] zanza : rdy
[2016-12-02 04:39:35] zanza : is REKT bot down btw
[2016-12-02 04:39:36] Rado : I have 50k long XBTZ16 and 50k short XBTUSD
[2016-12-02 04:39:57] zanza : ok
[2016-12-02 04:40:03] Rado : the short has liquidation price of 100000000.00
[2016-12-02 04:40:20] Rado : but the long has a real liquidation price
[2016-12-02 04:40:29] Rado : $285
[2016-12-02 04:40:32] Rado : why is that?
[2016-12-02 04:40:47] j8 : inverse futures
[2016-12-02 04:40:52] Rado : isn't the short going to make profit and cover the margin
[2016-12-02 04:41:06] zanza : they are both inverse right?
[2016-12-02 04:41:07] Rado : hey j8
[2016-12-02 04:41:11] j8 : sup dude
[2016-12-02 04:41:19] Rado : please explain
[2016-12-02 04:41:23] Rado : I am not getting it
[2016-12-02 04:41:53] zanza : it might not be accurate
[2016-12-02 04:42:06] zanza : I don't know if liquidation prices take in factor other predicted positions
[2016-12-02 04:42:20] j8 : which question is it
[2016-12-02 04:42:20] Rado : zanza: I think you are right
[2016-12-02 04:42:33] Rado : it just list a potential liquidation
[2016-12-02 04:42:40] Rado : regardless of other position
[2016-12-02 04:42:48] zanza : but that doesn't answer why the short has infinity liquidation price
[2016-12-02 04:42:51] Rado : in reality I should not get liquidated
[2016-12-02 04:42:55] zanza : maybe Bitmex system choose the first one
[2016-12-02 04:42:59] j8 : yeah if you have multiple cross positions the liq price isn't accurate
[2016-12-02 04:43:08] zanza : paging bitmex
[2016-12-02 04:43:15] Rado : ok
[2016-12-02 04:43:20] Rado : that's what I thought
[2016-12-02 04:43:28] j8 : the short can't be liquidated if it's fully funded
[2016-12-02 04:43:30] j8 : the long can
[2016-12-02 04:43:49] Rado : right
[2016-12-02 04:43:55] Rado : that is what it is
[2016-12-02 04:44:17] Rado : later guys and gals
[2016-12-02 04:44:21] j8 : but yeah if the two markets move together then you won't be liquidated
[2016-12-02 04:44:39] Rado : right
[2016-12-02 04:44:50] Rado : sold more than half of my Dec 30
[2016-12-02 04:45:00] Rado : starting to build some shorts
[2016-12-02 04:45:37] elmorte : I was gonna short at 767...glad I waited
[2016-12-02 04:45:55] martinium : too early
[2016-12-02 04:46:07] elmorte : seemed to be topping out
[2016-12-02 04:46:13] martinium : 772 if this resistance holds
[2016-12-02 04:46:55] AlfredE : what resistance?
[2016-12-02 04:47:06] martinium : current range
[2016-12-02 04:47:12] martinium : 768-771
[2016-12-02 04:47:34] martinium : been in this range for 2 hours now or more
[2016-12-02 04:53:18] AlfredE : Over the past couple days all my shorts are wrapped over my head!
[2016-12-02 05:04:37] mbaril : do you guys think there will be a retract ?
[2016-12-02 05:05:04] l3f : no
[2016-12-02 05:05:07] l3f : that was it
[2016-12-02 05:05:12] l3f : that was the retracement
[2016-12-02 05:05:25] l3f : and UP WE GO
[2016-12-02 05:05:30] martinium : lunch time over in China
[2016-12-02 05:05:40] l3f : lunch time was just over
[2016-12-02 05:06:46] chromaticcr1 : I am not even having lunch c'mon (in HK)
[2016-12-02 05:07:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7314 @ 770.87
[2016-12-02 05:07:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25000 @ 770.87
[2016-12-02 05:08:01] l3f : LEL
[2016-12-02 05:08:09] l3f : SHORTS BTFO
[2016-12-02 05:09:46] aethlios : 50,000 in 2 years
[2016-12-02 05:10:44] numero : l3f: seriously are you a polyphasic sleeper?
[2016-12-02 05:10:54] numero : I can see how awesome that would be for crypto . . .
[2016-12-02 05:11:17] l3f : numero: nah I was sick
[2016-12-02 05:11:22] l3f : and I woke up every 2 fucking hours
[2016-12-02 05:11:31] l3f : and of course I check bitmex first
[2016-12-02 05:11:34] jose : chromaticcr1: get waimai
[2016-12-02 05:11:54] chromaticcr1 : jose: lol, canteen is just next to me
[2016-12-02 05:12:12] l3f : that was some pretty sick liquidations though
[2016-12-02 05:23:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 130170 @ 772.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-02 05:25:04] chromaticcr1 : lol
[2016-12-02 05:25:45] l3f : this place
[2016-12-02 05:25:45] l3f : the best casino
[2016-12-02 05:31:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 13500 @ 798.06
[2016-12-02 05:31:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5000 @ 773.50
[2016-12-02 05:31:44] l3f : HAHAHA
[2016-12-02 05:31:52] l3f : Can't handle this much winning
[2016-12-02 05:31:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 23000 @ 773.86
[2016-12-02 05:31:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3500 @ 773.65
[2016-12-02 05:31:56] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-12-02 05:32:55] oz : RIP shorters
[2016-12-02 05:33:04] l3f : RIP
[2016-12-02 05:33:32] thomaskikansha : fireworks
[2016-12-02 05:33:54] l3f : Rest in peace you glorious fucks
[2016-12-02 05:34:31] aethlios : nasty break out of resist.
[2016-12-02 05:42:40] daveberns1 : lol did REKT just shout for the moon?
[2016-12-02 05:42:55] martinium : Lol
[2016-12-02 05:43:15] daveberns1 : i thought it was a bot
[2016-12-02 05:44:34] l3f : daveberns1: it is programmed to do it
[2016-12-02 05:45:33] daveberns1 : or it could be a bit of "machine learning"
[2016-12-02 05:45:58] numero : REKTbot knows where we
[2016-12-02 05:46:06] numero : *going
[2016-12-02 05:46:11] zanza : we gunna get some sweet .35% fundings?
[2016-12-02 05:47:19] l3f : zanza: use the futures luke
[2016-12-02 05:47:31] l3f : I got rekt -4.7 btc in futures before though
[2016-12-02 05:47:34] l3f : that fucking hurt
[2016-12-02 05:49:00] numero : why can't these things ever go in straight lines?
[2016-12-02 05:49:04] numero : so confusing
[2016-12-02 05:49:15] thomaskikansha : LOLOLOL
[2016-12-02 05:49:29] l3f : someone just liquidated a MASSIVE position
[2016-12-02 05:49:43] oz : yeah wut
[2016-12-02 05:49:52] l3f : look at the futures prices
[2016-12-02 05:49:55] l3f : getting pushed down
[2016-12-02 05:49:59] l3f : because of the massive liquidation
[2016-12-02 05:50:02] oz : o jeez
[2016-12-02 05:50:04] oz : I see
[2016-12-02 05:50:29] oz : clearly what we need is more 100x fomo
[2016-12-02 06:08:44] numero : I still have faith in REKTbot
[2016-12-02 06:09:51] zanza : i got a 95k rekt before
[2016-12-02 06:12:33] numero : it's not a competition
[2016-12-02 06:16:30] Rado : zanza: how much loss was that zanza?
[2016-12-02 06:16:56] zanza : about 10xbt, not my biggest loss lol
[2016-12-02 06:17:10] zanza : i changed my trading strategy since then
[2016-12-02 06:17:28] l3f : zanza: how did that happen?
[2016-12-02 06:17:31] l3f : no stop loss?
[2016-12-02 06:17:39] zanza : nop
[2016-12-02 06:17:48] l3f : yolo?
[2016-12-02 06:17:55] zanza : yeah yolo
[2016-12-02 06:18:49] zanza : i find the more "Active" i trade, the worst i do
[2016-12-02 06:18:50] Rado : zanza: what is the strategy now?
[2016-12-02 06:18:57] zanza : always second guessing and changing things
[2016-12-02 06:19:12] zanza : so I do very long trades now, like months
[2016-12-02 06:19:36] zanza : sleep a lot better
[2016-12-02 06:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 12234 @ 787.21
[2016-12-02 06:22:28] zanza : i can't program bots, so I can't do that
[2016-12-02 06:22:55] zanza : i dont trust someone else to program it either, but i guess you can make money if you can program and have a bit of bankroll
[2016-12-02 06:23:26] pause88 : or u can learn python
[2016-12-02 06:24:01] pause88 : its not unattainable
[2016-12-02 06:25:06] jose : if you dont know programming, i would advise you to stay away from autamated trading
[2016-12-02 06:28:54] elmorte : it's not about programming, it's about strategy
[2016-12-02 06:28:58] l3f : also if you aren't a quant
[2016-12-02 06:29:05] l3f : you shouldn't be very careful
[2016-12-02 06:29:20] l3f : because quant with their arb bots will just rape everything in site
[2016-12-02 06:29:25] chromaticcr1 : or if you are bad at dealing with logic stuff
[2016-12-02 06:29:26] l3f : sight*
[2016-12-02 06:29:34] elmorte : chromaticcr1: yeah, that's it
[2016-12-02 06:29:40] l3f : The only reason I think I'm winning
[2016-12-02 06:29:56] l3f : is I believe I can spot the manipulation and ride the pumps and dumps
[2016-12-02 06:30:02] elmorte : shake out or correction?
[2016-12-02 06:30:07] l3f : shakeout
[2016-12-02 06:30:11] l3f : or both
[2016-12-02 06:30:14] jose : a bug = thousands of dollars of loss
[2016-12-02 06:30:15] chromaticcr1 : l3f: is because everyone on earth is friggin dummb :P
[2016-12-02 06:30:24] l3f : chromaticcr1: nah
[2016-12-02 06:30:30] l3f : whales will eat you alive
[2016-12-02 06:30:33] elmorte : seems like it by the premium here @l3f
[2016-12-02 06:30:39] elmorte : jose: there's a testnet
[2016-12-02 06:31:02] elmorte : and you can do 1 dollar trades...
[2016-12-02 06:32:45] elmorte : I don't disagree that a knowledge of what computers can and cannot do (via code) is useful, but it's not be all & end all
[2016-12-02 06:33:12] elmorte : You gotta understand the limitations
[2016-12-02 06:33:32] jose : elmorte: you dont spend hundreds of hours on a bot to trade one dollar
[2016-12-02 06:34:01] elmorte : debugging
[2016-12-02 06:34:09] elmorte : it's part of those 100s od hrs
[2016-12-02 06:34:17] elmorte : of*
[2016-12-02 06:34:50] elmorte : and if you spent 100s of hours, you can hardly call yourself a novice in programming
[2016-12-02 06:34:57] elmorte : unless you're rapid
[2016-12-02 06:39:33] ooinaru : anyone know of an exchange besides bitfinex that offers BTC margin trading without giving them personal information?
[2016-12-02 06:40:14] pause88 : most of them...
[2016-12-02 06:41:36] pause88 : unless an email is too much info
[2016-12-02 06:41:45] ooinaru : Could you please be more specific? I couldnt find them
[2016-12-02 06:41:51] ooinaru : nah email is fine
[2016-12-02 06:42:04] pause88 : google will direct u sir
[2016-12-02 06:42:19] pause88 : xbt/btc* margin*
[2016-12-02 06:46:49] ooinaru : thanks
[2016-12-02 06:48:16] Rado : ooinaru: what beter margin broker than BitMEX?
[2016-12-02 06:49:54] ooinaru : I dont have experience with contracts. I just want plain and simple margin trading :)
[2016-12-02 06:54:02] j8 : japan is on fire
[2016-12-02 06:59:40] miramm1115 : will Quoine catch up to bitFlyer? place your bets
[2016-12-02 07:01:19] haxmb : ooinaru: bitmex is really good
[2016-12-02 07:01:22] chromaticcr1 : wow
[2016-12-02 07:01:37] haxmb : 1 contract = $1 of bitcoin
[2016-12-02 07:01:54] chromaticcr1 : 92430JPY=810USD
[2016-12-02 07:01:54] haxmb : so if you wanna short 10 bitcoin you short 7690 contracts currently
[2016-12-02 07:05:10] ooinaru : haxmb: Thanks. So what is the difference between marging longing a contract and margin longing BTC ?
[2016-12-02 07:10:14] j8 : there's not much practical difference, except for the way funding works
[2016-12-02 07:11:40] j8 : when you margin trade btc on a spot market, you always pay to borrow.. here some traders pay and others receive
[2016-12-02 07:22:24] ooinaru : thanks j8!
[2016-12-02 07:22:36] j8 : no problem
[2016-12-02 07:26:43] haxmb : ooinaru: not much as j8 already described
[2016-12-02 07:36:57] mjones : Here we Go China
[2016-12-02 07:37:13] mjones : 1 cny from high
[2016-12-02 07:41:14] mjones : 801 hit here when high is 820. Weak. Keep longing xbtz16
[2016-12-02 07:52:04] wurstgelee : it's that time in the year again when going to work costs me money
[2016-12-02 07:52:29] j8 : just quit already!
[2016-12-02 07:52:51] wurstgelee : tfw u made 3x of what you are gonna get for working today by clicking a button after waking up
[2016-12-02 07:53:18] wurstgelee : j8, i like my job. generally
[2016-12-02 07:53:37] wurstgelee : should probably reduce weekly hours a bit maybe
[2016-12-02 07:53:55] j8 : that's good then
[2016-12-02 07:54:23] wurstgelee : yes. i would need time off during bull runs, thats all
[2016-12-02 07:54:35] wurstgelee : I should demand that. Oo
[2016-12-02 07:55:16] wurstgelee : "40 weekly working hours except during btc bullruns where those are 0."
[2016-12-02 07:55:23] wurstgelee : thats what i want
[2016-12-02 07:55:26] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-12-02 07:55:42] haxmb : if you would make enough during bull runs to sustain yourself
[2016-12-02 07:55:51] haxmb : you can just chill during no bull runs without work
[2016-12-02 07:56:16] rapidtrades : lol let me know when u figure out when there's a 'bull run' in advance
[2016-12-02 07:56:27] haxmb : rapidtrades: exactly my point
[2016-12-02 07:56:44] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-02 07:57:08] wurstgelee : yeah, i could atm.i need work tho to not de-civilize myself within 2 months tops
[2016-12-02 07:57:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-12-02 07:57:27] wurstgelee : also I still like my job
[2016-12-02 07:57:37] j8 : the last year was all bull run. except for 4 or 5 days
[2016-12-02 07:58:04] wurstgelee : being the it admin of the company doesnt interfere too much with slinging shitcoins ;)
[2016-12-02 07:58:30] haxmb : wurstgelee: do you have bots?
[2016-12-02 07:58:38] wurstgelee : nope.
[2016-12-02 07:58:39] haxmb : if your an it guy, build bots :o
[2016-12-02 07:58:43] wurstgelee : all manual
[2016-12-02 07:59:02] haxmb : not efficient mang
[2016-12-02 07:59:03] wurstgelee : i could. but i am doing perfectly fine without somehow
[2016-12-02 07:59:07] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-12-02 07:59:29] haxmb : you miss so many trade opps with sleeping and shit
[2016-12-02 07:59:37] l3f : sleep
[2016-12-02 07:59:37] wurstgelee : yeah maybe, right now crypto is fun for me tho, not work. I like to keep it that way. :)
[2016-12-02 07:59:38] l3f : is
[2016-12-02 07:59:39] l3f : for
[2016-12-02 07:59:40] l3f : the
[2016-12-02 07:59:41] l3f : weak
[2016-12-02 08:00:24] haxmb : wurstgelee: fair enough
[2016-12-02 08:32:47] imabeast : wurstgelee: what are you in right now?
[2016-12-02 08:33:05] wurstgelee : half my btc longs from before going to sleep
[2016-12-02 08:55:59] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: did we trade at premium in ZEC yday?
[2016-12-02 08:56:17] wurstgelee : maybe, dont follow zec atm
[2016-12-02 08:56:32] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-12-02 08:59:33] Derreck : what's up with BTC? What is it rising?
[2016-12-02 08:59:43] Yuppie : Quick question: those 1 week futures, can they be rolled?
[2016-12-02 09:00:07] ett1 : rapidtrades: easy, bull runs start at monthly highs
[2016-12-02 09:01:38] rapidtrades : GUYS IT'S EASY
[2016-12-02 09:01:46] rapidtrades : etf1 here figured everything out
[2016-12-02 09:01:50] rapidtrades : let's pack our bags
[2016-12-02 09:02:04] ett1 : ok, ill let you short them
[2016-12-02 09:02:32] ett1 : obvoisuly it cant be easy for everyone
[2016-12-02 09:02:41] rapidtrades : everything seems easy when things are rising every single day, dude
[2016-12-02 09:03:00] ett1 : its never easy if you dont belive your system
[2016-12-02 09:03:45] rapidtrades : talk to me when this bul run ends...let's see how easy it will be for u then
[2016-12-02 09:03:54] rapidtrades : f*cking newb punk
[2016-12-02 09:04:10] ett1 : hahaha ok. love to see what you strategy is
[2016-12-02 09:04:19] ett1 : you spend all day on troll box. cant be making any money
[2016-12-02 09:04:27] ett1 : everytime you are here
[2016-12-02 09:04:33] ett1 : broke bastard
[2016-12-02 09:05:12] rapidtrades : ill talk to u once this bull run ends mofo....ask u how ur doing THEN
[2016-12-02 09:05:19] ett1 : im trading btc because i like the easy game
[2016-12-02 09:06:02] ett1 : you dont like to be long?
[2016-12-02 09:06:21] rapidtrades : i have nothing to say to u right now
[2016-12-02 09:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 770.26
[2016-12-02 09:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3500 @ 769.94
[2016-12-02 09:06:38] rapidtrades : ill talk to u once this bull run ends and ask u how ur doing THEN
[2016-12-02 09:06:47] ett1 : ye ill be flat
[2016-12-02 09:07:00] ett1 : waiting for the next breakout
[2016-12-02 09:07:15] rapidtrades : and then you'll get chopped to pieces
[2016-12-02 09:08:59] ett1 : somebodys neverran a backtest
[2016-12-02 09:09:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 123 @ 770.29
[2016-12-02 09:14:51] m3s : are we gona retrace from this or straight moon ?
[2016-12-02 09:15:00] Velancry : 800 today
[2016-12-02 09:15:28] rapidtrades : $1200 today
[2016-12-02 09:15:29] rapidtrades : $1200 todaynew ATH high
[2016-12-02 09:21:53] XBT_Saver : That seems a bit high, "you smoking that hopium again boy?" @rapidtrades
[2016-12-02 09:22:19] mispiezas3@gmail.com : Yep
[2016-12-02 09:23:18] rapidtrades : mispiezas3@gmail.com: are u scamming ppl? why would u put ur email in ur username
[2016-12-02 09:23:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7040 @ 772.24
[2016-12-02 09:24:15] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: By default if you do not choose a username we use the email address
[2016-12-02 09:24:28] mispiezas3@gmail.com : Noo i,m new¿
[2016-12-02 09:24:55] rapidtrades : pick a username
[2016-12-02 09:24:57] Velancry : oh god remove your email for your own safety
[2016-12-02 09:25:24] Velancry : BitMEX_Wally: thats really damn stupid as a default option
[2016-12-02 09:25:44] imabeast : lmao
[2016-12-02 09:26:15] BitMEX_Wally : Velancry: Before you can use the trollbox it asks you what username you want
[2016-12-02 09:26:16] imabeast : wow zec futures same as spot
[2016-12-02 09:26:32] mispiezas3@gmail.com : Were can i change it ¿
[2016-12-02 09:26:53] BitMEX_Wally : mispiezas3@gmail.com: I can change it for you, what username would you like?
[2016-12-02 09:27:02] thiago : sheeit.. just woke up... we are moonier than I tought.. sold out all my longs
[2016-12-02 09:27:22] mispiezas3@gmail.com : Mike17
[2016-12-02 09:27:26] m3s : yeah this doesnt look like it will retrace :0
[2016-12-02 09:27:36] BitMEX_Wally : mispiezas3@gmail.com: Changed
[2016-12-02 09:27:51] Mike17 : tanks
[2016-12-02 09:27:52] Velancry : thiago: the hype is not over yet, you sold too soon son.
[2016-12-02 09:28:07] thiago : Velancry: gently f ucked
[2016-12-02 09:28:23] ett1 : we havn't even broken yearly highs
[2016-12-02 09:28:46] thiago : well fuck, going 150000
[2016-12-02 09:29:08] wurstgelee : $772
[2016-12-02 09:29:18] wurstgelee : *stamp that is
[2016-12-02 09:31:54] thiago : 800 USD ate least I guess? I mean... is any technical analysis here, ppl are just freaking buying
[2016-12-02 09:35:03] m3s : people just yolo buying
[2016-12-02 09:36:47] ethexio : Oi
[2016-12-02 09:39:12] thiago : So, I bought 2 minutes ago.. It was around 772 spot price.. but my entry price says 774,61 ... ???
[2016-12-02 09:39:51] rapidtrades : lol? u srs brah
[2016-12-02 09:40:18] thiago : Im f ucking dumb yes.. can someone explain anyways
[2016-12-02 09:40:30] j8 : you're not buying at the spot price
[2016-12-02 09:41:07] thiago : I buy at exchange price and only can sell at spot price?
[2016-12-02 09:41:51] rapidtrades : spot price u see is more of a guideline :)
[2016-12-02 09:41:52] j8 : you buy and sell in the orderbook..
[2016-12-02 09:42:03] rapidtrades : since it's a swap, we will never settle to spot
[2016-12-02 09:42:13] martyix : My browser reports on 'Uncaught EvalError: Refused to evaluate a string as JavaScript because 'unsafe-eval' is not an allowed source of script in the following Content Security Policy directive: "script-src 'self' https://sentry.bitmex.com ".(…)' on https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTUSD
[2016-12-02 09:42:22] martyix : in Chrome's console
[2016-12-02 09:42:40] rapidtrades : but in theory the funding charges should keep it inline with spot
[2016-12-02 09:42:40] thiago : swap meaning Im buying an sellig between other players here?
[2016-12-02 09:43:00] BitMEX_Jinming : martyix: Yes, we are working on it.
[2016-12-02 09:43:08] rapidtrades : think of swap as never ending futures @thiago
[2016-12-02 09:43:15] martyix : tx
[2016-12-02 09:44:04] thiago : rapidtrades: THANK YOU
[2016-12-02 09:44:10] thiago : sorry
[2016-12-02 09:44:55] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-02 09:46:24] thiago : next resistance at 778?
[2016-12-02 09:47:43] anonymous789 : Weekly forming either double top or cup and handle both bearish at this level imo
[2016-12-02 09:48:26] anonymous789 : Could see small correction for cup and handle or massive correction for double top
[2016-12-02 09:48:51] elmorte : So what do I bet my house on?
[2016-12-02 09:48:57] m3s : how is cup and handle bearish ?
[2016-12-02 09:49:20] anonymous789 : Resistance at 5500 cny being tested though
[2016-12-02 09:49:31] anonymous789 : Because there is no handle yet
[2016-12-02 09:50:22] thiago : ( where I change the PNL calculator leverage?)
[2016-12-02 09:50:39] rullwull : waiting reversal around 12utc by 15 min chart
[2016-12-02 09:51:10] miramm1115 : plz buy more swap, funding is not @ cap yet, thanks
[2016-12-02 09:53:46] brasska : miramm1115: u wanna sell higher?0
[2016-12-02 09:55:27] miramm1115 : higher funding -> more money
[2016-12-02 09:56:07] anonymous789 : Small selloff in China
[2016-12-02 09:57:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 60 @ 790.24
[2016-12-02 09:57:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 771.53
[2016-12-02 10:03:10] habibi : anyone seen viptrader :)?
[2016-12-02 10:03:45] micmix : habibi: he's in a VIP chat room
[2016-12-02 10:08:56] habibi : that explains his insider knowledge !
[2016-12-02 10:11:26] rapidtrades : VIP trader is so inside, he's actually outside
[2016-12-02 10:23:24] elmorte : http://i.imgur.com/lEIxdwL.png What happens when an exchange is being screwed by the bank and instructs all its users to withdraw the fiat latest by 1st Dec
[2016-12-02 10:23:39] elmorte : Divide by 4.45 to get USD
[2016-12-02 10:24:08] elmorte : They stopped taking deposits early Nov
[2016-12-02 10:24:24] elmorte : and only allowed withdrawals towards the end of the month
[2016-12-02 10:28:43] RoftheN : Will bitcoin ever stop
[2016-12-02 10:30:02] rullwull : dont wanna stop it, tired of sideways
[2016-12-02 10:30:35] RoftheN : But my poor alts
[2016-12-02 10:31:28] brasska : let them die
[2016-12-02 10:31:55] brasska : waiting for zec drops to the floor
[2016-12-02 10:32:02] Tetsuo : DOGE looks solid
[2016-12-02 10:32:23] rullwull : let alts die
[2016-12-02 10:37:06] mjones : Alts will recover and make me rich
[2016-12-02 10:37:18] Tetsuo : me too
[2016-12-02 10:37:26] Tetsuo : 2018 maybe
[2016-12-02 10:38:31] m3s : when comes the point when alts go back to rising with bitcoin (like litecoin did in 2013)
[2016-12-02 10:38:31] mjones : Surprised btc didn't blast off yet
[2016-12-02 10:39:07] mjones : Hard to say
[2016-12-02 10:41:02] rullwull : no one alt will raised more 1000 times like btc, i still keep some coins that i purchased below one $
[2016-12-02 10:42:34] rullwull : all alts are pure pump and dump schemes, do not consider them an investment, only for trading to catch a good wave
[2016-12-02 10:44:12] Coconuter : 0.3 xbt on fees Bitmex
[2016-12-02 10:44:19] Coconuter : pay my lunch today please
[2016-12-02 10:44:57] elmorte : taker or funding fees?
[2016-12-02 10:45:37] Coconuter : from unrealised contracts orders
[2016-12-02 10:45:41] Coconuter : past 3 days opened
[2016-12-02 10:45:51] Coconuter : only 1 contract
[2016-12-02 10:45:54] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 10:46:03] Coconuter : i deserve a day in the SPA bitmex
[2016-12-02 10:46:08] Coconuter : all inclusive
[2016-12-02 10:46:28] elmorte : what's an unrealised contract order?
[2016-12-02 10:46:42] Coconuter : you open and keep it for days
[2016-12-02 10:46:52] elmorte : it's been filled?
[2016-12-02 10:46:54] Coconuter : untill you realized it fees keeps increasing
[2016-12-02 10:46:57] Coconuter : yep
[2016-12-02 10:47:02] elmorte : oh, so funding
[2016-12-02 10:47:12] elmorte : that money doesn't go to BitMEX
[2016-12-02 10:47:22] Coconuter : how come
[2016-12-02 10:47:26] elmorte : it goes to whoever is holding the opposit position
[2016-12-02 10:47:32] Coconuter : hmmm
[2016-12-02 10:47:40] brasska : u pay this fee to shorters, not to bitmex
[2016-12-02 10:47:50] Coconuter : i see
[2016-12-02 10:47:54] elmorte : yup...positive rate is longs pay shorts, and vice cersa
[2016-12-02 10:47:59] Coconuter : what about ehxbt with 60%+ fees
[2016-12-02 10:48:15] Coconuter : it all goes to the ethxbt inversed order ?
[2016-12-02 10:48:38] elmorte : what you mean by 60% fees?
[2016-12-02 10:48:45] BitMEX_Wally : ETHXBT does not exist anymore, only ETH7D
[2016-12-02 10:48:49] elmorte : It's a future so there are only maker/taker fees
[2016-12-02 10:48:57] BitMEX_Wally : The only swap product currently is XBTUSD and the funding rate is paid between longs and shorts
[2016-12-02 10:49:10] elmorte : Got your back Wally
[2016-12-02 10:49:31] rapidtrades : wtf ZEC
[2016-12-02 10:50:21] Coconuter : hahhuahuahuauhuhehue
[2016-12-02 10:50:27] Coconuter : well im just asking since im newbie
[2016-12-02 10:50:41] Coconuter : my order in ethxbt i have a big profit and only kept like 20%
[2016-12-02 10:50:46] Coconuter : after closed
[2016-12-02 10:50:53] Coconuter : this is why im asking
[2016-12-02 10:50:56] elmorte : did you market close it?
[2016-12-02 10:51:05] Coconuter : sure but it had volume
[2016-12-02 10:51:12] Coconuter : on the spot price
[2016-12-02 10:51:31] Coconuter : ill check the xbtusd
[2016-12-02 10:51:44] elmorte : not sure about that, you'd have to check what price the UPNL was calculated on
[2016-12-02 10:52:00] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: From looking at your trade history I cannot see you trading ETHXBT, only ETH7D
[2016-12-02 10:52:59] Coconuter : yep it had like 0.6 profit and i closed and kept like 0.19
[2016-12-02 10:53:23] rapidtrades : $770...really
[2016-12-02 10:53:25] rapidtrades : REALLY
[2016-12-02 10:53:35] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: When you did a market close you hit the bid at 0.01129 and sold all the way down to 0.01118
[2016-12-02 10:54:08] rapidtrades : with usd/cnh making new lows everyday
[2016-12-02 10:54:30] RoftheN : I heard something about India making gold import harder and therefor people will switch to BTC
[2016-12-02 10:54:43] rapidtrades : indians are poor
[2016-12-02 10:54:54] haxmb : RoftheN: btc in inda is already > $80
[2016-12-02 10:54:56] haxmb : $800**
[2016-12-02 10:54:57] rapidtrades : and illiterate
[2016-12-02 10:55:27] RoftheN : Well most of them are, but since there's so many Indians, even the top 1% is like 10 million people
[2016-12-02 10:55:53] rapidtrades : sounds like wishful thinking
[2016-12-02 10:56:13] Coconuter : i see
[2016-12-02 10:56:16] Coconuter : so we need more volume
[2016-12-02 10:56:22] Coconuter : and more bots
[2016-12-02 10:56:26] RoftheN : Besides. Mr Modi is trying to make India more digital, especially money wise. And they're heavily investing in solar energy. so my hopes are high for the future
[2016-12-02 10:56:30] Coconuter : to buy the markets at the top
[2016-12-02 10:56:31] rapidtrades : why would u buy BTC when u can buy USD for example
[2016-12-02 10:56:37] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-02 10:56:44] RoftheN : Why not both
[2016-12-02 10:57:02] rapidtrades : why? cos we fell 40% on that bitfinex news thats why
[2016-12-02 10:57:12] rapidtrades : does this look like a store of value to you?
[2016-12-02 10:57:24] RoftheN : Not yet
[2016-12-02 10:57:28] rapidtrades : this is a speculative asset
[2016-12-02 10:58:03] RoftheN : Maybe
[2016-12-02 10:58:07] elmorte : it's as stable as some currencies, if not more
[2016-12-02 10:58:08] RoftheN : but generally it will go up
[2016-12-02 10:58:38] elmorte : and to buy USD, you have to queue up where I live
[2016-12-02 10:58:38] thiago : if only call centers had btms...
[2016-12-02 10:59:13] elmorte : and then keep that USD under your pillow
[2016-12-02 10:59:16] rapidtrades : elmorte: pls show me a major currency that drops 40% in less then a day
[2016-12-02 10:59:34] Coconuter : rapidtrades this is why bitcoin will go to 10k or more
[2016-12-02 10:59:36] thiago : mexican peso lol
[2016-12-02 10:59:37] RoftheN : GBP after brexit, okay maybe a little less than 20%
[2016-12-02 10:59:38] elmorte : I know you're gonna nitpick so I'm not going to entertain you
[2016-12-02 10:59:48] Coconuter : and when it drops 500U$ in a bad news
[2016-12-02 10:59:48] elmorte : Maybe others will :)
[2016-12-02 10:59:54] Coconuter : wont be so bad
[2016-12-02 11:00:23] RoftheN : But slowly, bitcoin is getting more stable. The higher it is, the more stable it is
[2016-12-02 11:00:27] rapidtrades : GBP fall was <15%
[2016-12-02 11:00:41] rapidtrades : and that's once in a few decades move
[2016-12-02 11:00:44] RoftheN : Okay yeah, but GBP is a little older
[2016-12-02 11:01:06] rapidtrades : this happens in BTC 1-2 times per year
[2016-12-02 11:01:17] RoftheN : Because it's still in it's early stages
[2016-12-02 11:01:22] elmorte : rapidtrades: so you don't hold any coins?
[2016-12-02 11:01:41] elmorte : hodl rather
[2016-12-02 11:01:48] rapidtrades : i hold a lot of coins but i hedge to USD when I;m not long
[2016-12-02 11:02:09] rapidtrades : i don't 'invest' in BTC
[2016-12-02 11:02:19] elmorte : But to do that, you had to buy BTC with GBP?
[2016-12-02 11:02:27] Coconuter : its because 1 person like bill have 10x more wealth than bitcoin whole market
[2016-12-02 11:02:37] Coconuter : so its easy to move the market
[2016-12-02 11:02:42] Coconuter : once we get into trillions
[2016-12-02 11:02:45] Coconuter : it wont
[2016-12-02 11:02:57] Coconuter : bitfinex i bet had a major short opened
[2016-12-02 11:03:01] Coconuter : prior to the 'hack'
[2016-12-02 11:03:08] Coconuter : and then bought even theyre moma panties
[2016-12-02 11:03:15] Coconuter : when hit 475 lows
[2016-12-02 11:03:21] Coconuter : 10000x
[2016-12-02 11:04:34] RoftheN : I wonder if that happened
[2016-12-02 11:05:33] haxmb : highly unethical and very illegal
[2016-12-02 11:05:43] haxmb : i do not believe they did
[2016-12-02 11:06:01] RoftheN : I don't think they did it either. I think they were genuinely hacked
[2016-12-02 11:06:45] elmorte : Doesn't make a difference either way...
[2016-12-02 11:07:09] elmorte : I gtfo out of there, albeit too late
[2016-12-02 11:08:10] rapidtrades : haxmb: highly unethical...sounds right in their bullpark!
[2016-12-02 11:08:20] elmorte : word
[2016-12-02 11:08:33] elmorte : what happened to those tokens anyway? they still around?
[2016-12-02 11:08:49] rapidtrades : yeah idiots still hold em
[2016-12-02 11:09:11] rapidtrades : https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/bitfinex/conversations
[2016-12-02 11:09:15] haxmb : rapidtrades: =]
[2016-12-02 11:09:22] rapidtrades : look at that shit ^^^ they extended the deadline again
[2016-12-02 11:09:30] rapidtrades : they will never collect the money they need
[2016-12-02 11:09:59] rapidtrades : it was just an extend and pretend scam all along
[2016-12-02 11:10:10] Coconuter : if they didnt
[2016-12-02 11:10:14] Coconuter : the hacker did robbed
[2016-12-02 11:10:18] Coconuter : and openned a 100000x short
[2016-12-02 11:10:24] Coconuter : premeditading the major drop