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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2016-11-30 19:32:31] sleger : yes
[2016-11-30 19:32:44] arbitrage001 : have to locate where python is installed
[2016-11-30 19:32:55] sleger : if you had a real OS it would be easier
[2016-11-30 19:33:04] arbitrage001 : what real os?
[2016-11-30 19:33:09] sleger : mac, linux
[2016-11-30 19:35:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 1 @ 85724
[2016-11-30 19:35:38] sleger : then compare what you get with what you get here : https://www.python.org/shell/ import hmac,hashlib signature = hmac.new('chNOOS4KvNXR_Xq4k4c9qsfoKWvnDecLATCRlcBwyKDYnWgO'.encode('utf-8'), 'GET/api/v1/instrument?filter=%7B%22symbol%22%3A+%22XBTM15%22%7D1429631577690'.encode( 'utf-8'), digestmod=hashlib.sha256).hexdigest() signature
[2016-11-30 19:36:19] arbitrage001 : sleger: ok trying
[2016-11-30 19:43:13] arbitrage001 : sleger: got the right result
[2016-11-30 19:43:22] sleger : where ?
[2016-11-30 19:43:27] arbitrage001 : using python 3.4 from command prompt
[2016-11-30 19:43:45] sleger : you should try with 3.6 from prompt
[2016-11-30 19:44:01] j8 : this is fun eh
[2016-11-30 19:44:01] arbitrage001 : the ide giving error?
[2016-11-30 19:44:10] arbitrage001 : j8: interesting, yes
[2016-11-30 19:44:12] sleger : from prompt
[2016-11-30 19:44:15] sleger : no idea
[2016-11-30 19:44:17] sleger : ide
[2016-11-30 19:44:17] arbitrage001 : took me half day to debug
[2016-11-30 19:44:28] arbitrage001 : 1 simple line
[2016-11-30 19:44:51] j8 : just wait until you have issues with ssl certs
[2016-11-30 19:46:06] rms : so does anyone think xmr will go up from the short term here?
[2016-11-30 19:46:32] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/BotFomo/status/804048634371330048
[2016-11-30 19:46:34] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-30 19:48:53] CaptainDean : rms: my two cents is if we broke 0.013, we might go up way more, but pure guess here
[2016-11-30 19:49:12] CaptainDean : rms: if we hit a double top, I would short but men don't take my words for cash please
[2016-11-30 19:49:51] rms : yeah... i'm short already, maybe just looking for some emotional reassurance
[2016-11-30 19:54:57] mjones : xmr dooming
[2016-11-30 19:55:27] mjones : nice pump and dump. congrats new bagholders
[2016-11-30 19:56:20] thomaskikansha : wow monero
[2016-11-30 19:57:29] wurstgelee : mjones: nope, not nover yet
[2016-11-30 19:57:33] wurstgelee : *-n
[2016-11-30 19:58:13] wurstgelee : buttcoin pumping too now?
[2016-11-30 19:58:15] mjones : xmr finding a second life. new round of buyers stepping in
[2016-11-30 19:58:32] wurstgelee : well not yet, my bad
[2016-11-30 19:58:34] wurstgelee : wrong tf
[2016-11-30 19:59:49] wurstgelee : mjones: did u ever consider xmr started inverted H&S in august/september? ;)
[2016-11-30 20:02:15] j8 : arbitrage001: maybe the IDE is misinterpreting some of those crazy characters
[2016-11-30 20:03:29] mjones : no i did not
[2016-11-30 20:06:39] arbitrage001 : j8: just finish supper, going to see if version 3.6 gives me same error
[2016-11-30 20:14:43] arbitrage001 : @j8: @sleger think it is version issue, same interpreter running using common prompt still gives wrong result
[2016-11-30 20:14:57] j8 : pretty weird
[2016-11-30 20:15:10] sleger : arbitrage001: by same, you mean python 3.6
[2016-11-30 20:15:11] sleger : ?
[2016-11-30 20:15:12] arbitrage001 : python 3.6 gives different result that is
[2016-11-30 20:15:20] arbitrage001 : sleger: yes
[2016-11-30 20:17:19] sleger : i dont have an install with 3.6 and cant find one online either
[2016-11-30 20:17:54] j8 : python community is really not into being up to date
[2016-11-30 20:18:33] j8 : many are still on 2.7
[2016-11-30 20:18:45] numero : nice trollbox width option :thumb:
[2016-11-30 20:18:54] numero : good width for average comment length
[2016-11-30 20:19:27] sleger : rapidtrades is not a complete retard ^ it fits !!
[2016-11-30 20:19:27] numero : space could be saved by putting comment after name maybe
[2016-11-30 20:23:57] CaptainDean : numero: yeah I also prefer the old IRC way .... Name: blablabla
[2016-11-30 20:24:23] sleger : i mentioned that to sam few hours ago, seems like everyone agrees
[2016-11-30 20:29:16] numer0 : i like the new box
[2016-11-30 20:30:23] wurstgelee : +1 for name: blabla
[2016-11-30 20:30:30] wurstgelee : orr
[2016-11-30 20:30:36] wurstgelee : i dgaf tbh
[2016-11-30 20:30:41] wurstgelee : works this way for me as well
[2016-11-30 20:30:41] numero : :o
[2016-11-30 20:31:41] numero : ^ this guy sucks
[2016-11-30 20:31:56] numero : i like sucking monkey dicks
[2016-11-30 20:32:03] numero : whaaaa?
[2016-11-30 20:32:14] numero : am i being haxxed!!!!!
[2016-11-30 20:32:32] numero : BitMEX, please don't withdraw my btc today
[2016-11-30 20:32:50] sleger : i stuff my butthole with eels
[2016-11-30 20:32:59] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-30 20:34:11] wurstgelee : test
[2016-11-30 20:34:31] wurstgelee_ : i suck
[2016-11-30 20:34:34] numero : test
[2016-11-30 20:34:41] wurstgelee_ : me too
[2016-11-30 20:34:45] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-30 20:34:48] wurstgelee : thats fucked up
[2016-11-30 20:35:03] wurstgelee_ : thanx for ur moneez wurstgelee
[2016-11-30 20:35:48] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-30 20:35:52] wurstgelee : admins are filtered
[2016-11-30 20:35:54] wurstgelee : from irc
[2016-11-30 20:35:56] wurstgelee : admin nicks
[2016-11-30 20:36:13] numero : this is silly
[2016-11-30 20:36:20] numero : :D
[2016-11-30 20:36:20] wurstgelee : no it itsnßt
[2016-11-30 20:36:24] numero : it is
[2016-11-30 20:36:37] sleger : try better pass next time
[2016-11-30 20:39:08] numero_ : i´m selling Bitmex usernames and passwords, real cheap, anyone interested?
[2016-11-30 20:40:12] rapidtrades : How much is it?
[2016-11-30 20:40:49] sleger : bitmex is hacked
[2016-11-30 20:40:54] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-30 20:41:13] wurstgelee : freenode user mebbe
[2016-11-30 20:41:30] rapidtrades : no , real life you idiot
[2016-11-30 20:42:03] wurstgelee : for real?
[2016-11-30 20:43:25] rapidtrades : r u scared?
[2016-11-30 20:43:51] mjones : btc going up. dump xmr. long btc
[2016-11-30 20:46:02] wurstgelee : m
[2016-11-30 20:46:04] rapidtrades : a
[2016-11-30 20:46:06] sleger : y
[2016-11-30 20:46:09] wurstgelee : b
[2016-11-30 20:46:11] rapidtrades : e
[2016-11-30 20:46:57] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-30 20:47:04] sleger : k
[2016-11-30 20:47:11] wurstgelee : ...
[2016-11-30 20:47:28] wurstgelee : mine is back... this is annoying tho
[2016-11-30 20:47:34] wurstgelee : any support/admin here?
[2016-11-30 20:47:52] wurstgelee_ : no
[2016-11-30 20:50:16] Tetsuo : hi friends
[2016-11-30 20:51:30] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: Hi
[2016-11-30 20:51:48] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: hi. did u get what just happened?
[2016-11-30 20:52:03] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: Sorry can you give me a quick rundown
[2016-11-30 20:52:08] wurstgelee : someone in irc named as ppl here a started chatting
[2016-11-30 20:52:21] BitMEX_Greg : They are using your nick in IRC?
[2016-11-30 20:52:23] wurstgelee : so chats appearred as if rapidtrades etc wrote them
[2016-11-30 20:52:32] wurstgelee : i reclaimed mine
[2016-11-30 20:52:33] BitMEX_Greg : Going to raise with Sam ASAP
[2016-11-30 20:52:37] wurstgelee : thats especially bad
[2016-11-30 20:52:39] wurstgelee : because:
[2016-11-30 20:52:42] wurstgelee : ill show you
[2016-11-30 20:52:49] wurstgelee : THIS sentence was written here
[2016-11-30 20:52:54] wurstgelee : thisthis one in irc
[2016-11-30 20:53:00] wurstgelee : u see?
[2016-11-30 20:53:05] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, they're merging incorrectly.
[2016-11-30 20:53:07] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks @wurstgelee
[2016-11-30 20:53:18] wurstgelee : np
[2016-11-30 20:53:30] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: your nicks
[2016-11-30 20:53:34] wurstgelee : the admin nicks
[2016-11-30 20:53:37] wurstgelee : are excluded from mirroring
[2016-11-30 20:53:40] BitMEX_Sam : Right.
[2016-11-30 20:53:43] Tetsuo : u should thank me, as i found the exploit, lol
[2016-11-30 20:53:51] wurstgelee : maybe you could do this for logged in bitmex users as well?
[2016-11-30 20:53:59] wurstgelee : some effort tho i guess
[2016-11-30 20:54:09] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: even better:
[2016-11-30 20:54:11] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, that's a good idea.
[2016-11-30 20:54:16] wurstgelee : per user setting
[2016-11-30 20:54:29] BitMEX_Sam : We flag IRC messages, the issue is that it's being merged here.
[2016-11-30 20:54:31] wurstgelee : the everyone can decide if he wants to be mirror-able or not
[2016-11-30 20:54:32] STRML : Like so
[2016-11-30 20:54:37] wurstgelee : safety first :)
[2016-11-30 20:54:56] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: even if its flagged
[2016-11-30 20:55:03] wurstgelee : someone can easily impersonate everyone here
[2016-11-30 20:55:17] wurstgelee : how to distinct if real or not?
[2016-11-30 20:55:23] wurstgelee : no financial risk here..but annoying
[2016-11-30 20:55:40] BitMEX_Sam : Well, IRC nicks can be changed to anything; someone could easily set their nick to vvurstgelee and the effect could be the same
[2016-11-30 20:55:45] rapidtradeswhore : has anyone seen my son?
[2016-11-30 20:55:49] BitMEX_Sam : Could set it here too. So it's not much of a distinction
[2016-11-30 20:56:06] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: enable mirroring in user settings?
[2016-11-30 20:56:09] wurstgelee : is that an option?
[2016-11-30 20:56:13] wurstgelee : or too much effort?
[2016-11-30 20:56:25] BitMEX_Sam : It's an option - I think that's a good idea, I'll add it
[2016-11-30 20:56:32] wurstgelee : * as in "i can decide if my nick gets mirrored"
[2016-11-30 20:56:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-30 20:58:13] jeeburns : what do the dark bold numbered orders mean?
[2016-11-30 20:58:45] mirroronthewall : who is the fairest one of all
[2016-11-30 20:58:59] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: Not sure what you are referring to, can you give me an example?
[2016-11-30 20:59:46] jeeburns : some of the orders in the order book are darker, or bolder than the others
[2016-11-30 20:59:51] jeeburns : i don´t get it
[2016-11-30 20:59:57] jeeburns : i´m dumb af
[2016-11-30 21:00:17] jeeburns : ^ lol i didn't say those last two things, is my account hacked?
[2016-11-30 21:00:28] jeeburns : pay 5 BTC to get back your account
[2016-11-30 21:00:30] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: Yellow underlined ones are your own orders, and red underlines ones are liquidations
[2016-11-30 21:00:47] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: We have some IRC users using other nicknames, causing what you are seeing
[2016-11-30 21:01:34] jeeburns : lol ok, and yea it's still not what I mean. right now on xbtusd the top order is 743.94 and it's in bold while the one under it is not bold. Maybe it's just the top order?
[2016-11-30 21:02:11] jeeburns : could you plz delete my account
[2016-11-30 21:02:19] jeeburns : spemd money to the whales
[2016-11-30 21:04:20] wurstgelee : lol oO
[2016-11-30 21:04:26] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, I kicked him from IRC
[2016-11-30 21:06:46] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: Can you take a screenshot of what you are seeing and send it to support@bitmex.com/
[2016-11-30 21:20:12] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: My apologies, the top row is bolded because they represent the best bid and best ask on the orderbook
[2016-11-30 21:21:01] Nerve : Holy crap. Guys Is bitmex hack ???
[2016-11-30 21:21:44] wurstgelee : no
[2016-11-30 21:21:54] BitMEX_Sam : No, we simply mirror communication with IRC - we were erroneously allowing users with identical usernames on IRC to chat
[2016-11-30 21:22:19] Nerve : Ah.. thats fine
[2016-11-30 21:22:35] wurstgelee : just a temporary annoyance
[2016-11-30 21:24:37] Nerve : Is this the reason that bitcoin don't break $750 ??? LOL
[2016-11-30 21:25:44] BitMEX_Sam : The issue is already fixed; users on IRC with identical usernames to BitMEX users no longer have their messages mirrored
[2016-11-30 21:26:28] rapidtrades : who did they mirror?
[2016-11-30 21:27:05] BitMEX_Sam : Mostly just jeeburns
[2016-11-30 21:27:16] BitMEX_Sam : If you refresh, the mirrored messages are now correctly labeled as IRC
[2016-11-30 21:49:56] wurstgelee : thanks :)
[2016-11-30 21:50:23] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: <BitMEX_Chat> Your username is in use on BitMEX. To prevent impersonation, your message was not sent to traders on BitMEX.com. Please change your IRC username to talk with users on the site.
[2016-11-30 21:50:25] wurstgelee : nice :)
[2016-11-30 21:50:35] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-11-30 21:55:42] mjones : polo xmr volume is like the china btc volume
[2016-11-30 21:55:54] mjones : so fake
[2016-11-30 21:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 135 @ 0.011428
[2016-11-30 22:35:05] zecz : still very good spot to short ZEC I think
[2016-11-30 22:35:37] mjones : most likely
[2016-11-30 22:35:41] zecz : early investors are getting the first round of coins any day now
[2016-11-30 22:35:46] zecz : about 20 000 ZECs
[2016-11-30 22:36:00] zecz : https://forum.z.cash/t/initiating-founders-reward-transfers/10282
[2016-11-30 22:36:03] mjones : investors? you mean the founders / creators
[2016-11-30 22:36:14] mjones : i supposed they invested their time and energy
[2016-11-30 22:36:40] zecz : they also payed about 1-10 dollars per coin
[2016-11-30 22:36:46] zecz : dont know exactly
[2016-11-30 22:36:58] zecz : but I guess they want ROI :)
[2016-11-30 22:37:05] zecz : massive dump coming
[2016-11-30 22:37:34] mjones : in zec?
[2016-11-30 22:38:01] habibi : zecz: https://z.cash/blog/continued-funding-and-transparency.html do ur research :)
[2016-11-30 22:39:14] zecz : "Therefore, they effectively paid $15.24 per coin."
[2016-11-30 22:39:16] zecz : ok, thanks
[2016-11-30 22:39:56] mjones : ah i understand now
[2016-11-30 22:40:23] mjones : i doubt the whales would dump. not like they need the btc
[2016-11-30 22:40:56] habibi : mjones: of course they will, its not possible to hoddle price at these levels long term
[2016-11-30 22:41:01] mjones : and the large miners will just dump a little bit since they should be well funded. dont see a zec crash happening
[2016-11-30 22:41:10] zecz : only 100k coins so far?
[2016-11-30 22:41:23] zecz : if you are going to invest, wait for atleast 1-2 mil coins
[2016-11-30 22:41:45] zecz : 6-12 month or something
[2016-11-30 22:41:46] habibi : mjones: not crash but 30dec will settle way lower than actual price, like 0.03-0.05
[2016-11-30 22:41:48] mjones : i guess. in december 24,000 BTC worth of zec will be mined at this price point last time i did the math
[2016-11-30 22:45:30] rms : are the zcash founder rewards allowed to be sold right away though?
[2016-11-30 22:45:44] rms : i thought there was a vesting thing where they can only sell a small proportion of what they get right away
[2016-11-30 22:46:39] rms : if anyone's confident in zcash crash, wanna give me some volume where I buy at .07?
[2016-11-30 22:50:45] hhhhh : zcash price is so manipulated and artificial on poloniex its incredible. whenever the sell volume eats up a resistance, the founders just push in 50-100 btc volume and buy until they restore the price. i guess good luck with that when sell pressure 10 folds on this shit coin
[2016-11-30 22:50:47] gafs : where are the charts used in this trading platform ?
[2016-11-30 22:51:09] gafs : where can i find them in we
[2016-11-30 22:51:50] mjones : tradingview
[2016-11-30 22:53:13] gafs : mjones: thanks
[2016-11-30 22:55:42] wurstgelee : <3 xmr
[2016-11-30 22:56:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.012194
[2016-11-30 22:56:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 12 @ 0.012199
[2016-11-30 23:06:19] zanza : XMR new ETH ?
[2016-11-30 23:07:03] mjones : maybe. if the whales holding most coins decide a billion dollar market cap, then a billion dollar market cap it will have
[2016-11-30 23:18:38] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I started seeing reconnect message when I come back to the browser window with BitMEX application
[2016-11-30 23:18:47] Rado : sometimes it doesn't even reconnect
[2016-11-30 23:19:06] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: That can happen if your browser goes into sleep mode; pretty common power saving tech I've seen in newer browsers
[2016-11-30 23:19:07] Rado : it used to work fine before and it was reconnecting without me even noticing the message
[2016-11-30 23:19:08] BitMEX_Sam : Nothing we can really do about it
[2016-11-30 23:19:21] BitMEX_Sam : If you have an error send it by.
[2016-11-30 23:19:22] Rado : but this just started happening
[2016-11-30 23:19:34] Rado : I didn't make any changes
[2016-11-30 23:19:39] Rado : still the same browser
[2016-11-30 23:19:59] BitMEX_Sam : How many times has this happened?
[2016-11-30 23:20:40] Rado : a few times
[2016-11-30 23:20:47] Rado : I will keep an eye on it and let you know
[2016-11-30 23:20:55] Rado : see if I can find a pattern
[2016-11-30 23:22:27] thiago : should I long xmr now?
[2016-11-30 23:23:53] mjones : depends on where your liquidation price will be
[2016-11-30 23:24:48] mjones : whales pull buy walls and price could drop to 0.0114 and then quickly recover
[2016-11-30 23:25:41] mjones : dang fct took a dump.
[2016-11-30 23:29:52] thiago : Im the only who hates those 0.0XXX coins.. god..
[2016-11-30 23:33:17] sleger : soon eth will be 0.x
[2016-11-30 23:38:46] zanza : moon?
[2016-11-30 23:38:59] mjones : moonero?
[2016-11-30 23:39:39] wurstgelee : .00x?
[2016-11-30 23:41:27] username123 : question about leverage orders. if I put $100 on 100x leverage, and the price of bitcoin goes down 5%, how much do I lose?
[2016-11-30 23:42:10] arbitrage001 : username123: 100 at most
[2016-11-30 23:42:33] arbitrage001 : you will get rekt before 5% drop
[2016-11-30 23:42:53] arbitrage001 : 1% movement will wipe you out
[2016-11-30 23:42:57] mjones : all 100
[2016-11-30 23:43:41] username123 : Oh, okay, what would you advise to start with $100 then? Im just playing around and want to learn, and I feel like we may be entering another upward phase
[2016-11-30 23:43:59] username123 : totally okay with losing all of the $100
[2016-11-30 23:44:09] rms : don't go higher than 5x leverage
[2016-11-30 23:44:22] rms : definitely, definitely don't go higher than 10x leverage
[2016-11-30 23:44:43] rms : beyond that, you're gambling on coin flips as the spread will wipe you out
[2016-11-30 23:44:57] username123 : ok, ill start with 5. how would you do that, personally, get out every few % increase or decrease?
[2016-11-30 23:45:32] arbitrage001 : username123: easier to make money working at mcd?
[2016-11-30 23:45:33] sleger : 10x leverage is fine, price is not volatile these days
[2016-11-30 23:45:41] rms : it's up to you... sometimes it works to decide on a particular profit margin you are looking for and get out there
[2016-11-30 23:46:07] username123 : okay, I appreciate the input everyone :)
[2016-11-30 23:46:13] username123 : wish me luck!
[2016-11-30 23:46:24] rms : i mean if i were you i'd probably just long bitcoin and let it ride
[2016-11-30 23:46:46] rms : and with only $100 you can try higher leverage, because of what i call the throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if it sticks strategy
[2016-11-30 23:46:57] username123 : by that do you mean long term hold 'long' or open a long position?
[2016-11-30 23:47:01] rms : where if you can time a huge breakout you make bang
[2016-11-30 23:47:10] rms : i mean open a long position, buying the contract here
[2016-11-30 23:47:22] username123 : got it
[2016-11-30 23:47:46] rms : good luck!
[2016-11-30 23:48:30] username123 : thanks!
[2016-11-30 23:50:01] numero : I got lucky and made some money in zcrash
[2016-11-30 23:50:05] numero : that makes me a trader right?
[2016-11-30 23:54:36] numero : I should probably go work at mcdonalds for .01 btc/h
[2016-11-30 23:54:47] numero : but I tried this crypto stuff and now I can't stop . . .
[2016-11-30 23:54:58] numero : wish me luck!
[2016-11-30 23:56:05] sleger : luck doesnt last
[2016-11-30 23:58:24] zanza : yup, ez come ez go
[2016-12-01 00:03:41] thiago : you can study to improve ur skills, also an option
[2016-12-01 00:06:34] thiago : any mods?
[2016-12-01 00:07:43] BitMEX_Sam : thiago: Yeah, what's up?
[2016-12-01 00:15:28] thiago : I hate Kaiko pricing for XBTUSD.. it doesnt move..
[2016-12-01 00:16:15] BitMEX_Greg : thiago: Kaiko don't set the prices. It is an index comprised of 50% Bitstamp and 50% OkC0in USD
[2016-12-01 00:18:34] rapidtrades : lol @thiago
[2016-12-01 00:19:50] BitMEX_Sam : @thiago dump a quarter million cont, that should get it going
[2016-12-01 00:20:11] rapidtrades : +!
[2016-12-01 00:20:14] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-12-01 00:33:11] thiago : that's what I read from their website.. still, me don't like
[2016-12-01 00:35:40] thiago : also, charts are from trading view, and spot price from other source.. how come
[2016-12-01 00:38:21] mjones : so 1 exchange cant bring down the price and margin call a bunch of people
[2016-12-01 00:41:40] thiago : I get it... but sometimes you are waiting that movement.. lol
[2016-12-01 00:45:05] mjones : if you want more movement then 0kcoin quarterly futures could provide it but then you are only trading 10x and 20x
[2016-12-01 00:51:17] thiago : Im trading 10x atm
[2016-12-01 00:52:00] thiago : 50 or 100 gets a insane liquidation price, no?
[2016-12-01 00:52:44] Rado : thiago: it's about position size relative to the account balance
[2016-12-01 00:52:48] Rado : I always trade 100x
[2016-12-01 00:53:11] Rado : but it doesn't affect me because each trade is only a fraction of my balance
[2016-12-01 00:53:45] QuantFocus : Rado: so technically not 100x
[2016-12-01 00:55:55] thiago : Rado: can you give me some numbers?
[2016-12-01 00:57:25] mjones : 50x is reasonable if you pick the right time to get in
[2016-12-01 00:58:23] sleger : Rado: and you're happy to lose your maintenance margin everytime ?
[2016-12-01 00:59:03] Rado : QuantFocus: it is 100x
[2016-12-01 00:59:19] Rado : when you are doing 100x it uses a lot less margin
[2016-12-01 00:59:50] QuantFocus : Rado: if you're not trading 100x your margin, then it's not 100x
[2016-12-01 01:00:00] QuantFocus : you might have margin requirement set to 100x, but it's not the same thing
[2016-12-01 01:00:15] Rado : exactly
[2016-12-01 01:00:41] Rado : you have to be insane to use your whole account
[2016-12-01 01:00:49] Rado : only then it will be true 100x
[2016-12-01 01:01:45] Rado : cross calculates it based on 100x, but the effective leverage is only 1.41x for example
[2016-12-01 01:02:09] thiago : I use my whole account. yolo
[2016-12-01 01:04:58] Rado : thiago: :-)
[2016-12-01 01:05:13] Rado : thiago: is your account like 0.2 BTC?
[2016-12-01 01:05:38] thiago : 3.7
[2016-12-01 01:06:16] Rado : you can buy almost 250k contracts with 3.7 BTC
[2016-12-01 01:06:23] sleger : thats probably 2x the average bitmex user
[2016-12-01 01:06:32] Rado : but I guess if you use only 10x it will be 25k contracts
[2016-12-01 01:06:35] Rado : so that's fare
[2016-12-01 01:06:45] sleger : fair not fare
[2016-12-01 01:06:54] Rado : thanks sleger
[2016-12-01 01:07:05] sleger : fare is what you pay to take the suburban train to go back to your shithole
[2016-12-01 01:07:15] Rado : still making spelling mistakes after 20 years
[2016-12-01 01:07:41] Rado : sleger: I know what it is
[2016-12-01 01:08:00] Rado : sleger: how is your trading going?
[2016-12-01 01:08:40] Rado : Chinese Garlic market reaches all-time high.
[2016-12-01 01:08:41] Rado : LOL
[2016-12-01 01:08:54] Rado : https://twitter.com/PeterLBrandt/status/804128990801854464
[2016-12-01 01:09:26] sleger : cant complain
[2016-12-01 01:09:40] Rado : cool
[2016-12-01 01:10:03] Rado : BTC has been slow until today
[2016-12-01 01:12:46] Rado : looks like 0.0122 is a resistance for XMR
[2016-12-01 01:12:52] Rado : shorted some for a scalp
[2016-12-01 01:16:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.011420
[2016-12-01 01:19:57] thiago : just figured out that 3.7 btc, is a whole 12 months minimum wage in my country lol
[2016-12-01 01:21:09] rapidtrades : PBOC sets yuan reference rate for today at 6.8958 (vs. yesterday at 6.8865)
[2016-12-01 01:31:04] sleger : thiago: you live in Ethiopia ?
[2016-12-01 01:32:10] rapidtrades : that's 215 euros per month
[2016-12-01 01:32:33] rapidtrades : could apply to most of Eastern Europe
[2016-12-01 01:32:41] sleger : i cant leave one day with that
[2016-12-01 01:32:45] sleger : *live
[2016-12-01 01:33:29] rapidtrades : i don't see how that's possible but I'll take ur word for it
[2016-12-01 01:33:45] sleger : my rent is more than that
[2016-12-01 01:33:52] rapidtrades : per day?
[2016-12-01 01:33:58] sleger : i pay per month but yes
[2016-12-01 01:34:11] sleger : the bottle of wine i had is half of that
[2016-12-01 01:34:19] rapidtrades : why are u spending 6k for rent...like wtf
[2016-12-01 01:34:38] sleger : well, first of all, I have a couch in my apartment unlike some
[2016-12-01 01:34:43] sleger : well actually more than one
[2016-12-01 01:34:49] rapidtrades : a couch doesn't cost 6k
[2016-12-01 01:35:04] sleger : no but i meant its big enough that you need to have couches
[2016-12-01 01:35:30] rapidtrades : do u rent the Eiffel Tower?
[2016-12-01 01:35:38] sleger : its more than that dude
[2016-12-01 01:35:57] sleger : they had an apartment there for some time
[2016-12-01 01:36:04] sleger : for some show i believe though
[2016-12-01 01:36:11] arbitrage001 : sleger: where do you live?
[2016-12-01 01:36:14] sleger : anyways, I own my apartment in paris, but i live in london
[2016-12-01 01:36:40] arbitrage001 : london is top 1% upper class area
[2016-12-01 01:36:44] sleger : my apartment in paris would rent for close to 6k$ as well actually
[2016-12-01 01:36:51] arbitrage001 : cant compare to normal people
[2016-12-01 01:38:27] rapidtrades : That's ridiculous
[2016-12-01 01:38:41] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: what is?
[2016-12-01 01:38:53] rapidtrades : paying 6k euros for rent
[2016-12-01 01:39:02] rapidtrades : sleger: do u live alone?
[2016-12-01 01:39:17] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: even the wealthy area in 3rd world have ridiculous high rent rate
[2016-12-01 01:39:36] sleger : rapidtrades: yes, with gf
[2016-12-01 01:39:46] thiago : I live in Brasil. minimum wage/month = 880 BRL 1 USD = 3,40 BRL 3,7 XBT = 2745 USD = 9600 BRL.. about 11 wages here.. so, yes..
[2016-12-01 01:39:47] rapidtrades : at some point you're just throwing away money tho @arbitrage001
[2016-12-01 01:40:16] sleger : thiago: lets look at median wage though
[2016-12-01 01:40:18] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: when somoeone have high income, dont think they care about rent
[2016-12-01 01:40:39] rapidtrades : trading is not a certain income though
[2016-12-01 01:40:39] arbitrage001 : seen car alone cost a life time of fortune
[2016-12-01 01:40:50] rapidtrades : it's not like he has a government job
[2016-12-01 01:40:54] thiago : hard to draw a line on median wage here..
[2016-12-01 01:41:02] sleger : 10k per month is 120k per year, if you make 7 figures it totally makes sense
[2016-12-01 01:41:09] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: upper class family, politically connected
[2016-12-01 01:41:52] rapidtrades : sleger: and u make over 7 figures?
[2016-12-01 01:41:56] arbitrage001 : government jobs get paid penny by comparison
[2016-12-01 01:42:24] sleger : rapidtrades: yes
[2016-12-01 01:42:43] rapidtrades : i thought it was 200-400k? that's how i remember it last time
[2016-12-01 01:42:50] arbitrage001 : sleger: just curious why you hang out here
[2016-12-01 01:42:54] sleger : probably talking about base
[2016-12-01 01:43:12] sleger : arbitrage001: why not
[2016-12-01 01:43:13] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-12-01 01:43:31] arbitrage001 : sleger: lots of things you can do on your free time
[2016-12-01 01:43:39] arbitrage001 : and not worry about position you have here
[2016-12-01 01:43:48] arbitrage001 : or anywhere else
[2016-12-01 01:44:41] sleger : arbitrage001: i feel like i do what i want. I go out enough, I have nights with friends where we blow a few k$ per head, but dont want to go out every night
[2016-12-01 01:44:55] sleger : blow, as in spend, bottles of Dom etc....
[2016-12-01 01:45:29] Coconuter : blow as in cocaine
[2016-12-01 01:45:31] Coconuter : 90 90
[2016-12-01 01:45:38] Coconuter : be real with us sleger
[2016-12-01 01:45:43] sleger : no, never done that
[2016-12-01 01:45:55] rapidtrades : high class hookers?
[2016-12-01 01:45:55] thiago : fag
[2016-12-01 01:46:26] sleger : thiago: go see your brazilian hooker "ladies"
[2016-12-01 01:46:44] thiago : jk lol
[2016-12-01 01:47:00] l3f : thiago: I knew you were BR because I've watched the city of god
[2016-12-01 01:47:07] thiago : brazilian ladies are fine tho
[2016-12-01 01:47:31] sleger : when they are ladies sure
[2016-12-01 01:47:36] thiago : in Rio they are ugly
[2016-12-01 01:47:50] thiago : gotta go down south
[2016-12-01 01:48:17] sleger : rapidtrades: high class hookers, no, you dont need to, when you spend enough, they are all at your feet, but then they are not technically hookers even though...
[2016-12-01 01:48:27] sleger : btc about to pop
[2016-12-01 01:48:47] Coconuter : suggar daddy
[2016-12-01 01:49:22] Coconuter : sleger can you spend 1 day of rent and pump XBT for us please
[2016-12-01 01:49:25] Coconuter : thanks
[2016-12-01 01:49:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.011768
[2016-12-01 01:49:38] sleger : its coming now
[2016-12-01 01:49:40] l3f : wew lad
[2016-12-01 01:49:41] mjones : has a female ever entered the trollbox on bitmex?
[2016-12-01 01:49:51] sleger : mjones: yes my gf is here
[2016-12-01 01:49:52] sleger : Adriana
[2016-12-01 01:49:55] l3f : do you want to play a game of pretend?
[2016-12-01 01:50:39] mjones : pretend? like stick your cock between your legs and act like you have a hairy pussy?
[2016-12-01 01:51:19] l3f : sounds like you are way more experienced at this
[2016-12-01 01:52:11] thiago : taking notes.. go on
[2016-12-01 01:52:47] Coconuter : thnaks sleger
[2016-12-01 01:52:59] Coconuter : pump now another day from the paris rent
[2016-12-01 01:52:59] sleger : rapidtrades: are you coming to london any time soon ?
[2016-12-01 01:53:18] sleger : Coconuter: i dont pay rent in paris, i bought it
[2016-12-01 01:53:41] Coconuter : i should rent it
[2016-12-01 01:54:00] rapidtrades : sleger: nope
[2016-12-01 01:54:08] sleger : Coconuter: its not for rent
[2016-12-01 01:54:16] Coconuter : rent for me
[2016-12-01 01:54:19] Coconuter : im your BFF
[2016-12-01 01:54:23] sleger : that's where i keep my parisian girlfriend
[2016-12-01 01:54:28] Coconuter : ill take care of Adriana
[2016-12-01 01:54:35] Coconuter : when your out blowing with your friends
[2016-12-01 01:54:37] sleger : adriana is in russia
[2016-12-01 01:54:41] sleger : she is not ready yet to move over
[2016-12-01 01:54:51] Coconuter : oohhh i love pink rosetas russians
[2016-12-01 01:55:09] Coconuter : ill even enter a marriage dating russian website now
[2016-12-01 01:55:19] sleger : plenty of those
[2016-12-01 01:55:29] Coconuter : wish i had a apartment on paris tho it would make things easier
[2016-12-01 01:55:38] Coconuter : but ill get my Island in 1-2 years
[2016-12-01 01:55:42] Coconuter : less crowded
[2016-12-01 01:57:11] rapidtrades : I'm prolly going to Malta for the winter
[2016-12-01 01:57:17] rapidtrades : can't stand the cold weather
[2016-12-01 01:57:45] sleger : rapidtrades: still shocked you thought i made 200-400k per year. doesnt seem to match my lifestyle
[2016-12-01 01:58:16] arbitrage001 : sleger: any tips of us here?
[2016-12-01 01:58:16] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-12-01 01:58:18] sleger : i thought i mentioned flying in a private plane from france with a bunch of friends to miami something like a year ago ?
[2016-12-01 01:58:36] rapidtrades : hmmm you didn't say private plane, no
[2016-12-01 01:58:45] Coconuter : thats a month he makes rapid shares
[2016-12-01 01:58:50] rapidtrades : i do remember the trip tho
[2016-12-01 01:58:51] sleger : maybe forgot that part then
[2016-12-01 01:59:15] sleger : well: its not worth it
[2016-12-01 01:59:18] rapidtrades : u were prolly more modest back then
[2016-12-01 01:59:25] sleger : just fly business
[2016-12-01 01:59:55] sleger : skipping lines is cool but thats pretty much it
[2016-12-01 01:59:55] rapidtrades : i'll never fly business unless it's paid for...waste of money
[2016-12-01 02:00:02] Coconuter : kkkkk
[2016-12-01 02:00:16] sleger : business is soooooo worth it
[2016-12-01 02:00:18] rapidtrades : just tough it out for few hours :)
[2016-12-01 02:00:29] sleger : i havent flew anything else since i was 20
[2016-12-01 02:00:43] sleger : anything else = eco
[2016-12-01 02:00:52] sleger : first isnt worth it most of the time
[2016-12-01 02:01:33] sleger : *flown
[2016-12-01 02:02:13] sleger : i cant do couch, unless they paid me like3k and only because im cheap
[2016-12-01 02:02:25] sleger : *coach, couch is the thing you dont have
[2016-12-01 02:02:53] thiago : wtf is kilocoin? 192% up
[2016-12-01 02:03:08] rapidtrades : business is what 5k? so by going eco ur essentially getting paid 5k to tough it out for few hours
[2016-12-01 02:03:27] sleger : depends, 2-3k
[2016-12-01 02:03:42] rapidtrades : in europe?
[2016-12-01 02:03:52] rapidtrades : on short flights?
[2016-12-01 02:03:56] sleger : 3k paris - ny
[2016-12-01 02:04:10] sleger : 4k paris - brasilia
[2016-12-01 02:04:32] Coconuter : cheap if you make it in dollars
[2016-12-01 02:04:56] rapidtrades : still high....and it's not like u get there before eco :)
[2016-12-01 02:05:08] Coconuter : the services dont compare
[2016-12-01 02:05:16] Coconuter : economic vs business
[2016-12-01 02:05:21] rapidtrades : all services are shit on a plane
[2016-12-01 02:05:54] Coconuter : like im going to USA and paying 3k of local currency on business
[2016-12-01 02:06:14] Coconuter : its worth it
[2016-12-01 02:06:25] Coconuter : the food, drinks, space
[2016-12-01 02:06:40] rapidtrades : dude its what a 5 hour flight?
[2016-12-01 02:06:50] Coconuter : 8 hours
[2016-12-01 02:06:58] rapidtrades : from Brasil?
[2016-12-01 02:07:02] Coconuter : yep
[2016-12-01 02:07:05] rapidtrades : wow
[2016-12-01 02:07:15] rapidtrades : so ur further away from europe
[2016-12-01 02:07:27] Coconuter : yep europe is over 12 hours
[2016-12-01 02:07:33] Coconuter : 10hours to portugal
[2016-12-01 02:08:00] Coconuter : after i secure funding in USA ill move out
[2016-12-01 02:08:08] Coconuter : nomad
[2016-12-01 02:08:21] sleger : paris-ny is 6-7 hr flight
[2016-12-01 02:08:30] sleger : business get there 30 min before eco
[2016-12-01 02:08:35] Coconuter : kkkkkk
[2016-12-01 02:08:40] sleger : because of the line at immigration
[2016-12-01 02:08:46] Coconuter : even more with the special bottle of champagne
[2016-12-01 02:08:55] rapidtrades : yeah i thought europe was closer
[2016-12-01 02:09:28] rapidtrades : i agree that above 5-6 hrs its hard...especially if ur older like us :)
[2016-12-01 02:09:41] rapidtrades : that's kinda my breaking point
[2016-12-01 02:09:56] sleger : i agree up to 4hr i dont mind too much, after is a nightmare
[2016-12-01 02:09:58] Coconuter : brazil 60.000 homicides per year
[2016-12-01 02:10:03] Coconuter : on 230million people
[2016-12-01 02:10:07] Coconuter : pretty wild
[2016-12-01 02:10:18] Coconuter : worst than siria and iraq
[2016-12-01 02:10:31] rapidtrades : that's only 0.26% of population getting killed per year
[2016-12-01 02:10:34] rapidtrades : not that bad
[2016-12-01 02:10:38] Coconuter : in 10 days im out
[2016-12-01 02:10:48] arbitrage001 : life isnt that good most of the world
[2016-12-01 02:10:54] sleger : what visa you got ? @Coconuter
[2016-12-01 02:10:54] rapidtrades : going to US? @Coconuter
[2016-12-01 02:10:55] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-01 02:11:02] Coconuter : yes