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[2016-11-30 07:46:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2200 @ 736.84
[2016-11-30 07:47:06] rapidtrades : oh well at least I'm making money
[2016-11-30 07:47:56] arbitrage001 : only less than 1% movement
[2016-11-30 07:48:07] arbitrage001 : so far
[2016-11-30 07:48:35] wurstgelee : But its movement!
[2016-11-30 07:48:50] wurstgelee : was getting bored....
[2016-11-30 07:49:48] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: yeah could be a fakeout
[2016-11-30 07:49:52] brasska : over 8 btc profit from this move on okc futures!!!
[2016-11-30 07:51:13] imabeast : keep moving bitcornz
[2016-11-30 07:51:24] brasska : sooner or later LTC will rise, keep quaterly long on okc
[2016-11-30 07:52:43] billyboy402 : did you see that mega reck . 100K gone , suck that the reck comp is over
[2016-11-30 07:53:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.009941
[2016-11-30 07:53:34] imabeast : holy xmr dump haha
[2016-11-30 07:55:56] mjones : Lol xmr
[2016-11-30 07:56:15] mjones : Brasska see ltc monthly and weekly bbands. Wow!
[2016-11-30 07:57:05] jeeburns : these f***ING fees are outrageous.
[2016-11-30 07:57:23] mjones : Yes
[2016-11-30 07:58:06] billyboy402 : jeeburns: quite cheap when yhou place market order
[2016-11-30 07:58:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6695 @ 737.48
[2016-11-30 07:59:42] jeeburns : billyboy402: I had 3 winning trades in a row and am down because of the fees like wtf i get they gotta make money but fee's on top of fees for every trade, plus oh, guess we should charge a random fee every 8 hours why not, there's no where else semi legit to trade so guess we can.
[2016-11-30 08:00:45] billyboy402 : jeeburns: your either a small scaper making less the 0.075% profit or your over exaggerating
[2016-11-30 08:01:34] billyboy402 : the fee are only 0.075% which is only like 55 cent extra on the buying price of bitcoin
[2016-11-30 08:02:25] billyboy402 : so if you market but and then let it go up just $1 and then market close you should be breaking even ,
[2016-11-30 08:02:28] jeeburns : I market buy/sell every time, but have been easily right on the trades and closed .75+ cents on the right side.
[2016-11-30 08:02:31] rapidtrades : 55 cents is a lot if ur scalping
[2016-11-30 08:03:20] billyboy402 : you can also go to bfx and pay 0.2%
[2016-11-30 08:03:34] mjones : Xbtz16 doesn't have an 8 hour fee
[2016-11-30 08:04:25] billyboy402 : unless yourn tal;king about funding fees . yea they kinda suck when it high like 0.3725% , but at least your not trading Eth 2 months ago paying 3% lol
[2016-11-30 08:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1750 @ 0.010007
[2016-11-30 08:07:14] jeeburns : Yea I meant the funding fee. And yea I'll try xbtz16 I suppose but I don't see why anyone would use xbtusd if the fee's are overall higher when they could just click over to xbtz16. Just frustrating when you're right and lose lol. But hey live and learn. I need to set more orders and not market buy/sell apparently.
[2016-11-30 08:08:16] billyboy402 : there a clock up the top . good tip to alway check it before you place a order ,. not point buying if your about to pay a fee in 5 min
[2016-11-30 08:08:51] BitMEX_Wally : jeeburns: From looking at your trading the funding fee does not seem to be a significant component of your PNL
[2016-11-30 08:09:41] jeeburns : BitMEX_Wally: THat is because I've been trying the xbtusd. I'm done with the fee bs. Tell me the fee's aren't insane here.
[2016-11-30 08:11:25] BitMEX_Wally : jeeburns: Your last XBTUSD trade you shorted at 738.25 and bought back at 740.99
[2016-11-30 08:11:37] jeeburns : I just had one bad trade a bit ago and lost a bit, which is fine i screwed up but the others were good
[2016-11-30 08:11:52] jeeburns : Yes, and the others?
[2016-11-30 08:12:04] jeeburns : Or just going to post the losing one when I just said I had winning trades
[2016-11-30 08:12:30] jeeburns : I mean if you wanna put my whole trade history on blast lol. My point is the fee's here are shit
[2016-11-30 08:12:58] jeeburns : But there is no other option. So I'll be setting orders rather than market buying selling. I didn't realize it ate into it that much
[2016-11-30 08:12:58] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-30 08:13:09] rapidtrades : I wouldn't say 'shit' but they're on the higher end if ur a liquidity taker
[2016-11-30 08:13:31] jeeburns : rapidtrades: lol shit was shorter but agreed
[2016-11-30 08:14:38] rapidtrades : in/out with market orders is 0.15% vs okc 0.03%
[2016-11-30 08:17:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2 @ 738.77 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-30 08:17:44] rapidtrades : QQ
[2016-11-30 08:17:49] rapidtrades : I'm out fellas
[2016-11-30 08:17:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 739.10
[2016-11-30 08:19:22] billyboy402 : rapidtrades7:17 PM QQ I'm out fellas
[2016-11-30 08:19:26] billyboy402 : what this ur Liquidated short on XBTUSD: Buy 2 @ 738.77 ? ?
[2016-11-30 08:22:29] rapidtrades : no comment
[2016-11-30 08:22:35] l3f : Fly me to the mooon
[2016-11-30 08:22:58] l3f : Wtf i love btc now
[2016-11-30 08:23:53] billyboy402 : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-30 08:24:13] billyboy402 : i thought it was as you said your going just as it pop up
[2016-11-30 08:25:07] billyboy402 : this was mine , have to make it back now REKT7:06 PM Liquidated short on XMR7D: Buy 1750 @ 0.010007
[2016-11-30 08:25:26] rapidtrades : never try to make it up :)
[2016-11-30 08:25:52] billyboy402 : ps dont trade 20x on XMR , it too much atm .
[2016-11-30 08:25:57] billyboy402 : opps
[2016-11-30 08:27:53] billyboy402 : i must of been sick when the teach was tell the class not to short the bottom lol
[2016-11-30 08:29:04] billyboy402 : it funny , bitmex had the 3m running and was getting no volume , they remove it and every one bitch and they re add it and now there a fair bit of volume
[2016-11-30 08:29:39] billyboy402 : it quite lovely atm to cash and carry , almost a extra 1 % premium atm then okc
[2016-11-30 08:35:47] l3f : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQR0bXO_yI8
[2016-11-30 08:35:51] l3f : FUCKKK YEEAAAHHHH
[2016-11-30 08:45:52] rapidtrades : This isn't the pump you're looking for
[2016-11-30 08:46:01] l3f : rapidtrades: it made my dick hard already
[2016-11-30 08:46:47] l3f : I'm 100btc in a long from 744
[2016-11-30 08:46:51] l3f : I'm banging some hookers tonight
[2016-11-30 08:47:34] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-11-30 08:47:48] l3f : wtf i love china now
[2016-11-30 08:48:12] rapidtrades : not gonna last bud, new lows for USD/CNH
[2016-11-30 08:48:18] rapidtrades : 6.8930
[2016-11-30 08:48:35] l3f : rapidtrades: m80, get some cash, get the fuck out
[2016-11-30 08:48:38] l3f : that's how this works
[2016-11-30 08:48:40] l3f : bitmex is a casino
[2016-11-30 08:49:14] l3f : Secondly
[2016-11-30 08:49:17] j8 : nah, casinos have free drinks
[2016-11-30 08:49:20] l3f : you can tell a pump was coming
[2016-11-30 08:49:31] l3f : someone was capping prices at 5200
[2016-11-30 08:49:43] l3f : and not letting it fall too low
[2016-11-30 08:49:46] l3f : always pumped up
[2016-11-30 08:49:51] l3f : that's pumping 101
[2016-11-30 08:50:05] l3f : you bet your life on it a pump was going to happen
[2016-11-30 08:50:31] l3f : four days in a row price was capped at 5200
[2016-11-30 08:50:38] l3f : you don't think something was happening?
[2016-11-30 08:52:40] rapidtrades : I think you;re full of it
[2016-11-30 08:53:29] l3f : I'm not the one shorting xbt
[2016-11-30 08:53:51] l3f : Secondly I drew this chart
[2016-11-30 08:54:02] rapidtrades : DUN CARE
[2016-11-30 08:54:25] l3f : https://www.tradingview.com/x/UwDGaCOk/
[2016-11-30 08:54:33] rapidtrades : NOT LOOKING
[2016-11-30 08:54:48] l3f : was easiest trade in the world
[2016-11-30 08:55:03] rapidtrades : YOU'RE A DUNCE
[2016-11-30 08:55:22] l3f : I know
[2016-11-30 08:55:24] l3f : this place is a casino
[2016-11-30 08:55:43] l3f : but even a retard is right twice a day
[2016-11-30 08:56:02] rapidtrades : not a bad premium on okc, $4 for 2 days
[2016-11-30 08:56:28] rapidtrades : Oil up 4% lol
[2016-11-30 08:59:48] rullwull : crude is good! made profit on short last night and now fixing profit fro long. it may reverse down after 12UTC today
[2016-11-30 09:00:05] rullwull : bitmex should add crude/btc pair
[2016-11-30 09:00:32] rapidtrades : why would it reverse at 12?
[2016-11-30 09:00:53] rullwull : based on my bot analyze
[2016-11-30 09:01:03] rapidtrades : k
[2016-11-30 09:01:08] rullwull : i count reversal points
[2016-11-30 09:01:18] rapidtrades : I'm sure you do
[2016-11-30 09:01:46] l3f : TA is a joke
[2016-11-30 09:03:23] brasska : its not pure TA, my bot is counting simalar paterns on diffrent timeframes, cause its always a cycle
[2016-11-30 09:04:21] rapidtrades : all of it is TA dumbasses
[2016-11-30 09:05:36] rapidtrades : In finance, technical analysis is a security analysis methodology for forecasting the direction of prices through the study of past market data, primarily price and volume
[2016-11-30 09:07:50] joker : Is anyone know about the API of bitmex?
[2016-11-30 09:14:46] BitMEX_Jinming : joker: you can explore it here `https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/`
[2016-11-30 09:16:09] raisetheblade : the early bird gets the worm!
[2016-11-30 09:17:34] rapidtrades : OPEC agrees on a cut
[2016-11-30 09:17:50] rapidtrades : Oil now up 5.35%
[2016-11-30 09:24:32] Boontjie : rapidtrades: OPEC went long
[2016-11-30 09:27:50] rapidtrades : f*ck OPEC
[2016-11-30 09:27:58] rapidtrades : f*cking sand f*ckers
[2016-11-30 09:28:04] CaptainDean : and their mothers
[2016-11-30 09:28:26] CaptainDean : don'T forget rapid
[2016-11-30 09:28:34] rapidtrades : I wonder how many days until Russia cheats again
[2016-11-30 09:31:07] Derreck : Why is BTC rising? What's the news?
[2016-11-30 09:33:30] rapidtrades : some jew bought btc
[2016-11-30 09:34:02] rapidtrades : Saudi: Russia waits for OPEC cut, will reciprocate
[2016-11-30 09:34:06] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2016-11-30 09:38:15] raisetheblade : 13f: interesting chart, thanks
[2016-11-30 09:48:26] Boontjie : rapidtrades: Russia cannot cut
[2016-11-30 09:48:40] Boontjie : OPEC is waiting for Cristmas
[2016-11-30 09:49:19] Boontjie : Let me explain the sarcasm: They are muslim
[2016-11-30 09:55:30] Yuppie : @Bitmex: are there any plans to introduce options?
[2016-11-30 09:55:54] Yuppie : Would be nice to write some calls on BTC
[2016-11-30 09:56:11] micmix : Yuppie: try deribit.com
[2016-11-30 09:57:46] Yuppie : Micmix: thanks for the hint. Have you tried them? Sufficient volume / security ?
[2016-11-30 10:03:46] micmix : Yuppie: did a few trades there, nothing big. security seems fine
[2016-11-30 10:23:35] Yuppie : Pity they don't offer corresponding futures to the options contracts
[2016-11-30 10:37:50] Coconuter : good i closed my ETH long yesterday
[2016-11-30 10:37:59] Coconuter : but this fees from BitMex
[2016-11-30 10:38:28] Coconuter : how come Bitmex needs to get mora than 60% on a ethxbt trade ?
[2016-11-30 10:38:39] Coconuter : more`
[2016-11-30 10:40:24] rapidtrades : Yuppie: ? they have futures too
[2016-11-30 10:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 223 @ 0.00000902
[2016-11-30 10:51:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3 @ 742.15 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-30 11:03:10] rapidtrades : chat is weird
[2016-11-30 11:03:15] rapidtrades : now font is changed
[2016-11-30 11:03:26] rapidtrades : seems laggy and unstable
[2016-11-30 11:11:43] Boontjie : micmix: How do calls work? What does the orders mean?
[2016-11-30 11:25:04] mjones : New high
[2016-11-30 11:25:34] mjones : Xmr lol
[2016-11-30 11:27:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50000 @ 742.63 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-30 11:27:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 742.96
[2016-11-30 11:28:22] mjones : Oh that was xrp dumping
[2016-11-30 11:30:39] mjones : Figures btc new high then goes right to dumping
[2016-11-30 11:57:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 35000 @ 743.17
[2016-11-30 11:58:11] shery : bitcoin mega pump incoming???
[2016-11-30 12:00:12] rullwull : crude made my day today! BTC and LTC you are the next)
[2016-11-30 12:00:32] anonymous789 : lol shorts still paying for xbt
[2016-11-30 12:00:45] anonymous789 : oh nvm
[2016-11-30 12:00:47] anonymous789 : it changed
[2016-11-30 12:02:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1900 @ 743.44
[2016-11-30 12:02:52] Boontjie : shery: seems so
[2016-11-30 12:07:49] thiago : HAAAAAAAAAA
[2016-11-30 12:08:12] thiago : I was holing a long for a week, at 743, for crist sake
[2016-11-30 12:08:56] rms : after the coming christmas 2016 mega btc pump, people will say it's because of the halving...
[2016-11-30 12:09:30] rms : anyways that's my hopium for today
[2016-11-30 12:20:25] thiago : can someone explain exactly where spot price is measured? if not on the last trade...
[2016-11-30 12:21:08] sleger : spot price is measured on spot exchanges
[2016-11-30 12:22:50] thiago : wich is kaiko?
[2016-11-30 12:24:03] sleger : yes
[2016-11-30 12:26:55] thiago : The Bitcoin Global Index is computed from trade and order book data from the following pairs and exchanges: BTC/USD: Bitstamp, Kraken, Coinbase, itBit, BTC-e, Okcoin, Gemini BTC/CNY: Huobi, Okcoin, BTCC BTC/EUR: Bitstamp, Kraken, itBit, Coinbase, BTC-e
[2016-11-30 12:27:24] thiago : so, a mix between all those exchanges..
[2016-11-30 12:27:40] sleger : index here is 50% bitstamp 50%okcoin usd
[2016-11-30 12:29:01] thiago : woodchipper?
[2016-11-30 12:29:16] sleger : i dont know thats what you wrote as well look at your message
[2016-11-30 12:30:46] thiago : ok thanks
[2016-11-30 12:44:21] martyix : Is testnet scheduled for a long downtime?
[2016-11-30 12:46:59] rullwull : rapidtrades: check crude, my bot was right)
[2016-11-30 12:55:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4800 @ 744.40
[2016-11-30 12:56:03] Nerve : so i should keep my short position ?
[2016-11-30 12:57:10] brasska : hope you short alts
[2016-11-30 13:00:33] thiago : how many rekts is an answer
[2016-11-30 13:34:15] mjones : Nerve btc short? No. This is the start of the pump to ath
[2016-11-30 13:35:33] Nerve : mjones: i'm already LONG on xbt x25
[2016-11-30 13:36:49] mjones : Okay. Then you can keep short in case it goes down
[2016-11-30 13:37:43] Nerve : mjones: what are the prediction on this pump ?
[2016-11-30 13:51:07] cryptobull : This gonna spiral back down to where it came from
[2016-11-30 13:53:22] l3f : cryptobull: +1
[2016-11-30 13:53:40] l3f : but it is also too risky to short
[2016-11-30 13:53:53] l3f : hold a short for many days and many days for a bull to fuck you up
[2016-11-30 13:55:41] cryptobull : yeah...
[2016-11-30 13:57:27] l3f : ath will not be reached until segwit is activated
[2016-11-30 13:57:42] l3f : but market may already be reacting to this
[2016-11-30 13:57:44] l3f : I
[2016-11-30 13:57:50] l3f : will enter long after this retraces
[2016-11-30 13:58:44] l3f : wow retracing already
[2016-11-30 14:01:31] Nerve : I'm still there lol
[2016-11-30 14:01:45] l3f : Nerve: how does it feel?
[2016-11-30 14:03:27] Nerve : Like in a f...ing casino LOL
[2016-11-30 14:03:38] l3f : Aye aye brother
[2016-11-30 14:13:21] ed : when is segwit ment to be active?
[2016-11-30 14:14:08] Rado : it's not
[2016-11-30 14:14:17] Rado : 95% of miners have to activate it
[2016-11-30 14:14:31] Rado : seem almost impossible to me
[2016-11-30 14:17:12] ed : so all of this up&down around $750 is only speculation on the fact segwit will be active in the future?
[2016-11-30 14:17:30] RoftheN : why does it need 95% that's such a big majority
[2016-11-30 14:17:44] Rado : that is my question as well
[2016-11-30 14:18:01] Rado : I guess they need most to adopt it
[2016-11-30 14:18:15] Rado : if it's 50% only it could turn out like ETH/ETC
[2016-11-30 14:18:56] RoftheN : why not a nice 66.6667%
[2016-11-30 14:19:31] RoftheN : Also ETH/ETC was hardfork situation
[2016-11-30 14:19:50] RoftheN : Bitcoin doesn't need minor majority for a hardfork
[2016-11-30 14:20:27] Rado : https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/803933761192808452
[2016-11-30 14:48:46] Rado : Chicago PMI confimed at 57.6, Exp. 52.0, Last 50.6
[2016-11-30 14:48:55] Rado : S&P500 to the moon
[2016-11-30 14:56:28] l3f : Rado: this meme has gone too far
[2016-11-30 14:57:08] Rado : l3f: which meme?
[2016-11-30 14:57:31] l3f : segwit graph technicaly analysis
[2016-11-30 14:57:36] l3f : technical*
[2016-11-30 14:58:34] Rado : lol
[2016-11-30 14:58:37] Rado : yeah
[2016-11-30 14:58:59] Rado : did you guys see Oil jump
[2016-11-30 14:59:04] Rado : Gold sliding back down
[2016-11-30 15:06:24] BitMEX_Greg : How is segwit doing right now?
[2016-11-30 15:10:12] Rado : 30%
[2016-11-30 15:12:07] Rado : https://bitcoincore.org/en/segwit_adoption/
[2016-11-30 15:14:50] BitMEX_Greg : Thx
[2016-11-30 15:19:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 80 @ 0.011440
[2016-11-30 15:19:39] laisee : Segwit got some ways to go ...
[2016-11-30 15:21:31] Rado : did ETH bottom at 0.01?
[2016-11-30 15:21:35] Rado : very strong since then
[2016-11-30 15:33:46] zanza : looks like it Rado
[2016-11-30 15:34:40] martinium : btc waiting to dump on longs
[2016-11-30 15:58:33] Rado : rapidtrades: USDJPY hod
[2016-11-30 16:04:42] mjones : chat looking better
[2016-11-30 16:07:21] sleger : there is so much space wasted
[2016-11-30 16:11:06] Rado : sleger: agree
[2016-11-30 16:11:24] Rado : need to scroll way more to read previous messages
[2016-11-30 16:14:44] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mtL2A4K7/
[2016-11-30 16:14:59] aethlios : arrows show the way up up up.
[2016-11-30 16:36:33] mjones : chat font looks smaller
[2016-11-30 16:36:48] mjones : and you can make chatbox taller
[2016-11-30 16:59:08] BitMEX_Sam : You can also make it wider now.
[2016-11-30 17:15:59] mjones : wider doesnt really show more lines though
[2016-11-30 17:16:12] mjones : most people have adhd and type 5 words and hit enter
[2016-11-30 17:16:49] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. I'm still looking into what I can do to compress it; stay tuned
[2016-11-30 17:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.010046
[2016-11-30 17:49:11] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: why not keeping the previous layout with [time] [name] : beginning of chat on the first line
[2016-11-30 17:49:27] BitMEX_Sam : I may put it back, the point was to not repeat the name with subsequent messages
[2016-11-30 17:49:40] BitMEX_Sam : I think this layout looks cleaner but it certainly could be more compact
[2016-11-30 17:52:53] mjones : find a new home for english line and bots line
[2016-11-30 17:53:30] mjones : but i dont think that is necessary when you can just increase the height of the box.
[2016-11-30 17:54:58] mjones : can you make the chat box pop out into its own window. that way we can put it anywhere on the monitor
[2016-11-30 17:55:13] BitcoinBrains : or on another monitor
[2016-11-30 18:00:27] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: cant you do what i said and not repeat the name and time if same username ?
[2016-11-30 18:00:38] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-11-30 18:00:50] BitMEX_Sam : mjones: Just fullscreen it
[2016-11-30 18:16:30] mjones : then i would need to open another tab and go to bitmex to trade
[2016-11-30 18:16:42] mjones : suppose it's a solution though
[2016-11-30 18:28:56] zanza : test
[2016-11-30 18:28:58] zanza : 1
[2016-11-30 18:29:00] zanza : 2
[2016-11-30 18:35:50] rapidtrades : STOP
[2016-11-30 18:39:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1800 @ 0.010734
[2016-11-30 18:39:45] mjones : wtf @ xmr
[2016-11-30 18:40:09] mjones : wonder what their thought process is with all this pumping and dumping
[2016-11-30 18:41:02] wurstgelee : xmr @ finex
[2016-11-30 18:41:05] wurstgelee : thats y
[2016-11-30 18:41:20] wurstgelee : this is actually a news-spike
[2016-11-30 18:41:32] arbitrage001 : look at it another way
[2016-11-30 18:41:55] arbitrage001 : finex venture into an area they do not have expertise
[2016-11-30 18:42:03] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/804031556729896960
[2016-11-30 18:42:08] mjones : oh snap
[2016-11-30 18:42:14] arbitrage001 : attempting to create more profit
[2016-11-30 18:43:02] mjones : that tweet was hours ago though
[2016-11-30 18:43:09] arbitrage001 : for most of the alt coin show up on finex
[2016-11-30 18:43:29] arbitrage001 : most do not last, can view it as the last bubble cycle
[2016-11-30 18:43:50] wurstgelee : usually a coin dumps to shit when added to finex
[2016-11-30 18:43:57] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-11-30 18:45:06] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: mind if i throw you some technical question?
[2016-11-30 18:45:15] wurstgelee : no, ofc not
[2016-11-30 18:45:18] wurstgelee : go ahead ;)
[2016-11-30 18:45:34] arbitrage001 : saw this
[2016-11-30 18:45:36] arbitrage001 : https://github.com/wurstgelee/market-maker
[2016-11-30 18:45:46] wurstgelee : ooooohhh. lol :)
[2016-11-30 18:46:00] wurstgelee : yeah, i just forked it to not forget about it :p
[2016-11-30 18:46:06] wurstgelee : which didnt help i guess
[2016-11-30 18:46:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-30 18:46:12] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-11-30 18:46:19] arbitrage001 : python have version problems
[2016-11-30 18:46:23] arbitrage001 : i isolated it
[2016-11-30 18:46:24] arbitrage001 : to
[2016-11-30 18:46:37] arbitrage001 : signature = hmac.new(apiSecret, message, digestmod=hashlib.sha256).hexdigest()
[2016-11-30 18:46:58] arbitrage001 : hmac is deprecated in version 3.4
[2016-11-30 18:47:01] wurstgelee : i know te perfect addressee for that question
[2016-11-30 18:47:05] arbitrage001 : any solution
[2016-11-30 18:47:07] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam
[2016-11-30 18:47:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-30 18:47:16] mjones : xmr about to go full on fomo
[2016-11-30 18:47:20] arbitrage001 : 'i sent support an email
[2016-11-30 18:47:27] arbitrage001 : said they dont do coding support
[2016-11-30 18:47:27] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: no clue, i am not a python guy
[2016-11-30 18:47:34] wurstgelee : also yes @ full fomo
[2016-11-30 18:47:43] mjones : 0.0118 is the high it needs to break
[2016-11-30 18:47:48] wurstgelee : i have to admit i fomo bought some longs myself a few minutes ago ;)
[2016-11-30 18:49:22] mjones : but knowing xmr it can fall very quickly too
[2016-11-30 18:49:31] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-30 18:49:38] wurstgelee : this is some general fomo i assume tho
[2016-11-30 18:49:42] arbitrage001 : really depend on dark market
[2016-11-30 18:49:43] wurstgelee : not just mm fucking with everyone else
[2016-11-30 18:50:03] mjones : someone with 500 BTC can break the high and get it started towards 0.013
[2016-11-30 18:50:04] arbitrage001 : how do dark market operate using btc now?
[2016-11-30 18:50:10] CaptainDean : what means fomo ?
[2016-11-30 18:50:16] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: mixing services
[2016-11-30 18:50:22] Tetsuo : CaptainDean: female homo
[2016-11-30 18:50:24] habibi : fear of missing out, mother of all rekts! :)
[2016-11-30 18:50:26] mjones : dnms need to convert xmr to btc to sell i would think
[2016-11-30 18:50:27] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: does it actually work?
[2016-11-30 18:50:33] wurstgelee : bitblender is a good one, i heard
[2016-11-30 18:50:36] CaptainDean : ok cthanks
[2016-11-30 18:50:42] wurstgelee : depends on the service @arbitrage001
[2016-11-30 18:51:11] arbitrage001 : but anyone using the service will be instantly recognized, isnt it?
[2016-11-30 18:51:29] wurstgelee : how?
[2016-11-30 18:51:45] arbitrage001 : the coin has to come from somewhere
[2016-11-30 18:51:58] arbitrage001 : from not tainted space
[2016-11-30 18:52:25] wurstgelee : bitblender operaters can tell where the coins com from, yep
[2016-11-30 18:52:33] wurstgelee : bitblender lives @ tor network btc
[2016-11-30 18:52:34] wurstgelee : btw
[2016-11-30 18:52:45] wurstgelee : wow
[2016-11-30 18:52:51] wurstgelee : that fomo long is really paying off
[2016-11-30 18:53:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 17 @ 0.011594
[2016-11-30 18:53:12] Rado : looks like Bitstamp is reclaiming the #1 spot as USD exchange from Bitfinex
[2016-11-30 18:53:28] arbitrage001 : for real?
[2016-11-30 18:53:41] arbitrage001 : lending rate going high on finex is a cause for concern
[2016-11-30 18:54:15] arbitrage001 : sign of lack of usd
[2016-11-30 18:54:19] wurstgelee : lol. my xmr order doesnt show up in orderbook for some reason
[2016-11-30 18:54:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1000 @ 0.011708
[2016-11-30 18:54:22] wurstgelee : hidden is not set
[2016-11-30 18:54:55] mjones : 0.02 could be hit in XMR. sell side is weak on polo
[2016-11-30 18:55:04] arbitrage001 : Rado: are you familiar with python?
[2016-11-30 18:55:27] j8 : arbitrage001: i remember having to change a couple things in the signature part for python 3, but hmac was ok
[2016-11-30 18:55:29] Rado : not one of my main languages
[2016-11-30 18:55:29] wurstgelee : mjones: still long 1000 xmr
[2016-11-30 18:55:37] Rado : but I have written some help scripts
[2016-11-30 18:55:39] arbitrage001 : j8: any tips?
[2016-11-30 18:55:52] arbitrage001 : j8: which ide do you use and which python version?
[2016-11-30 18:56:15] j8 : python 3.4.3, no ide
[2016-11-30 18:56:17] wurstgelee : xmr adl soon? ;)
[2016-11-30 18:56:18] Rado : arbitrage001: what is your issue?
[2016-11-30 18:56:32] arbitrage001 : signature = hmac.new(apiSecret, message, digestmod=hashlib.sha256).hexdigest()
[2016-11-30 18:56:39] arbitrage001 : giving error on python 3.6
[2016-11-30 18:56:49] arbitrage001 : using pycharm ide
[2016-11-30 18:56:56] mjones : waiting for xmr market maker to get rekt
[2016-11-30 18:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 25 @ 0.012526
[2016-11-30 18:57:17] arbitrage001 : j8: you code using text editor?
[2016-11-30 18:57:38] Rado : arbitrage001: post the actual error
[2016-11-30 18:57:40] j8 : oh, i haven't updated. but i had do make sure the apiSecret and message were bytes
[2016-11-30 18:57:51] j8 : yep just text editor
[2016-11-30 18:58:07] arbitrage001 : j8: so convert them to bytes first before calling the function?
[2016-11-30 18:58:21] arbitrage001 : both apisecret and message?
[2016-11-30 18:59:27] Rado : arbitrage001: instead of converting them you can set a variable with the correct type
[2016-11-30 18:59:36] j8 : yeah i think in py3 if you have a string s: `s.encode('utf-8')`
[2016-11-30 19:00:34] arbitrage001 : ok let me try
[2016-11-30 19:01:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.012042
[2016-11-30 19:01:32] mjones : long rekt
[2016-11-30 19:01:54] Rado : why did XMR pop?
[2016-11-30 19:01:55] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-30 19:02:02] mjones : hardcore manipulation
[2016-11-30 19:02:04] wurstgelee : closed for a nice profit
[2016-11-30 19:02:04] Rado : Bitfinex added them?
[2016-11-30 19:02:11] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-30 19:02:13] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/804031556729896960
[2016-11-30 19:02:21] wurstgelee : few hours ago tho
[2016-11-30 19:02:31] wurstgelee : twitter shilling suddenly started, fomo seconds later
[2016-11-30 19:02:32] Rado : should be good short then
[2016-11-30 19:02:43] wurstgelee : it would have been @ .0125
[2016-11-30 19:02:47] wurstgelee : but no buys here
[2016-11-30 19:02:49] wurstgelee : not really
[2016-11-30 19:02:58] wurstgelee : got some longs closed up there
[2016-11-30 19:03:34] sleger : eth is the real buy, this thing cant be beaten, it never even goes down a bit
[2016-11-30 19:04:17] wurstgelee : Rado: now u can short :p
[2016-11-30 19:04:23] wurstgelee : gl
[2016-11-30 19:06:05] arbitrage001 : j8: code works, but i am not getting the right result
[2016-11-30 19:06:34] sleger : how unfortunate
[2016-11-30 19:06:57] arbitrage001 : sleger: any tips?
[2016-11-30 19:07:11] sleger : like people already told you : post your error, dummy
[2016-11-30 19:07:29] wurstgelee : code works. not the right result
[2016-11-30 19:07:32] arbitrage001 : no error, just not getting the right output
[2016-11-30 19:07:33] wurstgelee : prob means no error
[2016-11-30 19:07:36] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-30 19:07:40] sleger : we cant guess whats wrong if you dont show anything
[2016-11-30 19:07:56] sleger : what you do, what you expect to get, what your stupid code actually get
[2016-11-30 19:08:03] arbitrage001 : 1 sec
[2016-11-30 19:08:32] wurstgelee : Rado: i shorted. small ;)
[2016-11-30 19:10:28] aethlios : bitfinex adds monero, that's the pump.
[2016-11-30 19:11:09] wurstgelee : everyone knows alts die after finex added them
[2016-11-30 19:11:11] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-30 19:12:11] aethlios : doesn't change anything with finex.
[2016-11-30 19:13:13] wurstgelee : the news is hours old
[2016-11-30 19:13:16] wurstgelee : nothing happened
[2016-11-30 19:13:37] wurstgelee : coordinated shilling starts @ twitter, same second massive spike up
[2016-11-30 19:14:31] arbitrage001 : sleger:
[2016-11-30 19:14:35] arbitrage001 : signature = hmac.new('chNOOS4KvNXR_Xq4k4c9qsfoKWvnDecLATCRlcBwyKDYnWgO'.encode('utf-8'), 'GET/api/v1/instrument?filter=%7B%22symbol%22%3A+%22XBTM15%22%7D1429631577690'.encode('utf-8'), digestmod=hashlib.sha256).hexdigest()
[2016-11-30 19:14:46] arbitrage001 : i should be getting result here:
[2016-11-30 19:14:51] habibi : wurstgelee: its called the pump, mjones every market is manipulated, thats why they moves so much
[2016-11-30 19:14:55] arbitrage001 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiKeysUsage
[2016-11-30 19:15:24] wurstgelee : habibi: i just wanted to point out what kind of pump that is
[2016-11-30 19:15:26] wurstgelee : thats all
[2016-11-30 19:18:05] j8 : arbitrage001: i plugged that into python 3.4 interpreter and got the right answer. you get something else?
[2016-11-30 19:18:42] arbitrage001 : j8: i got this :
[2016-11-30 19:18:45] arbitrage001 : 895c5bee91d117c5fb7e13c9dd3af09abc05635035bcf06997e2df49a1ca8c85
[2016-11-30 19:19:17] j8 : 9f1753e2db64711e39d111bc2ecace3dc9e7f026e6f65b65c4f53d3d14a60e5f
[2016-11-30 19:19:25] j8 : your computer must be fried.
[2016-11-30 19:19:32] arbitrage001 : j8: lol
[2016-11-30 19:19:40] arbitrage001 : you use python version 3.4?
[2016-11-30 19:20:13] sleger : " i plugged that into python 3.4 "
[2016-11-30 19:20:26] arbitrage001 : have to be version problems then
[2016-11-30 19:20:28] sleger : although that doesnt explain the difference
[2016-11-30 19:20:34] arbitrage001 : since we are getting different results
[2016-11-30 19:21:48] sleger : I get this : '9f1753e2db64711e39d111bc2ecace3dc9e7f026e6f65b65c4f53d3d14a60e5f'
[2016-11-30 19:22:07] arbitrage001 : sleger: which python version?
[2016-11-30 19:22:23] j8 : see, sleger's computer works
[2016-11-30 19:22:26] sleger : im on 3.4.4 there
[2016-11-30 19:22:45] sleger : import hmac,hashlib signature = hmac.new('chNOOS4KvNXR_Xq4k4c9qsfoKWvnDecLATCRlcBwyKDYnWgO'.encode('utf-8'), 'GET/api/v1/instrument?filter=%7B%22symbol%22%3A+%22XBTM15%22%7D1429631577690'.encode( 'utf-8'), digestmod=hashlib.sha256).hexdigest()
[2016-11-30 19:23:03] arbitrage001 : sleger: any tips on which ide to use?
[2016-11-30 19:23:20] sleger : i just did that on pycharm, but that doesnt explain your issue
[2016-11-30 19:23:32] wurstgelee : doesnt eclipse work for everything?
[2016-11-30 19:23:48] wurstgelee : never used eclipse for python though
[2016-11-30 19:24:28] sleger : same result with anaconda 3.5.2
[2016-11-30 19:24:50] arbitrage001 : sleger: https://docs.python.org/3/library/hmac.html
[2016-11-30 19:24:59] sleger : without ide, directly into the interpreter
[2016-11-30 19:25:02] arbitrage001 : using python 3.6 here
[2016-11-30 19:25:08] arbitrage001 : might be the issue
[2016-11-30 19:25:16] arbitrage001 : since hmac is depracted
[2016-11-30 19:25:25] arbitrage001 : after version 3.4
[2016-11-30 19:25:49] sleger : arbitrage001: likeliest issue is your computer is infected, someone is stealing your valid hmac result to withdraw all your bitcoins, and sending you fake result to make you waste time
[2016-11-30 19:26:13] arbitrage001 : sleger:doubtful lol
[2016-11-30 19:26:15] j8 : it doesn't say hmac is deprecated
[2016-11-30 19:26:27] j8 : on the page you linked
[2016-11-30 19:26:32] sleger : j8 is correct : https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/hmac.html
[2016-11-30 19:26:33] arbitrage001 : j8: Deprecated since version 3.4: MD5 as implicit default digest for digestmod is deprecated.
[2016-11-30 19:26:56] j8 : that's MD5 as implicit default digest for digestmod.
[2016-11-30 19:27:23] arbitrage001 : so, should not change the result?
[2016-11-30 19:27:29] j8 : unrelated
[2016-11-30 19:27:50] j8 : you have an explicit digestmod=hashlib.sha256
[2016-11-30 19:28:29] arbitrage001 : so this is system issue and not coding
[2016-11-30 19:28:33] arbitrage001 : ?
[2016-11-30 19:29:37] sleger : hold on one minute
[2016-11-30 19:29:48] sleger : almost done withdrawing all your bitcoins with your secretkey now
[2016-11-30 19:30:51] sleger : arbitrage001: which OS you use ?
[2016-11-30 19:31:17] sleger : oh btw, can you please confirm on the email I just sent you that appears to come from bitmex, this will help debugging
[2016-11-30 19:31:19] arbitrage001 : win 7
[2016-11-30 19:31:56] sleger : can you open a python3 interpreter directly (no ide)
[2016-11-30 19:32:27] arbitrage001 : you mean use command promt?
[2016-11-30 19:32:31] sleger : yes
[2016-11-30 19:32:44] arbitrage001 : have to locate where python is installed
[2016-11-30 19:32:55] sleger : if you had a real OS it would be easier
[2016-11-30 19:33:04] arbitrage001 : what real os?
[2016-11-30 19:33:09] sleger : mac, linux
[2016-11-30 19:35:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 1 @ 85724
[2016-11-30 19:35:38] sleger : then compare what you get with what you get here : https://www.python.org/shell/ import hmac,hashlib signature = hmac.new('chNOOS4KvNXR_Xq4k4c9qsfoKWvnDecLATCRlcBwyKDYnWgO'.encode('utf-8'), 'GET/api/v1/instrument?filter=%7B%22symbol%22%3A+%22XBTM15%22%7D1429631577690'.encode( 'utf-8'), digestmod=hashlib.sha256).hexdigest() signature
[2016-11-30 19:36:19] arbitrage001 : sleger: ok trying
[2016-11-30 19:43:13] arbitrage001 : sleger: got the right result
[2016-11-30 19:43:22] sleger : where ?
[2016-11-30 19:43:27] arbitrage001 : using python 3.4 from command prompt
[2016-11-30 19:43:45] sleger : you should try with 3.6 from prompt
[2016-11-30 19:44:01] j8 : this is fun eh
[2016-11-30 19:44:01] arbitrage001 : the ide giving error?
[2016-11-30 19:44:10] arbitrage001 : j8: interesting, yes
[2016-11-30 19:44:12] sleger : from prompt
[2016-11-30 19:44:15] sleger : no idea
[2016-11-30 19:44:17] sleger : ide
[2016-11-30 19:44:17] arbitrage001 : took me half day to debug
[2016-11-30 19:44:28] arbitrage001 : 1 simple line
[2016-11-30 19:44:51] j8 : just wait until you have issues with ssl certs
[2016-11-30 19:46:06] rms : so does anyone think xmr will go up from the short term here?
[2016-11-30 19:46:32] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/BotFomo/status/804048634371330048
[2016-11-30 19:46:34] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-30 19:48:53] CaptainDean : rms: my two cents is if we broke 0.013, we might go up way more, but pure guess here
[2016-11-30 19:49:12] CaptainDean : rms: if we hit a double top, I would short but men don't take my words for cash please
[2016-11-30 19:49:51] rms : yeah... i'm short already, maybe just looking for some emotional reassurance
[2016-11-30 19:54:57] mjones : xmr dooming
[2016-11-30 19:55:27] mjones : nice pump and dump. congrats new bagholders
[2016-11-30 19:56:20] thomaskikansha : wow monero
[2016-11-30 19:57:29] wurstgelee : mjones: nope, not nover yet
[2016-11-30 19:57:33] wurstgelee : *-n
[2016-11-30 19:58:13] wurstgelee : buttcoin pumping too now?
[2016-11-30 19:58:15] mjones : xmr finding a second life. new round of buyers stepping in
[2016-11-30 19:58:32] wurstgelee : well not yet, my bad
[2016-11-30 19:58:34] wurstgelee : wrong tf
[2016-11-30 19:59:49] wurstgelee : mjones: did u ever consider xmr started inverted H&S in august/september? ;)
[2016-11-30 20:02:15] j8 : arbitrage001: maybe the IDE is misinterpreting some of those crazy characters
[2016-11-30 20:03:29] mjones : no i did not
[2016-11-30 20:06:39] arbitrage001 : j8: just finish supper, going to see if version 3.6 gives me same error
[2016-11-30 20:14:43] arbitrage001 : @j8: @sleger think it is version issue, same interpreter running using common prompt still gives wrong result
[2016-11-30 20:14:57] j8 : pretty weird
[2016-11-30 20:15:10] sleger : arbitrage001: by same, you mean python 3.6
[2016-11-30 20:15:11] sleger : ?
[2016-11-30 20:15:12] arbitrage001 : python 3.6 gives different result that is
[2016-11-30 20:15:20] arbitrage001 : sleger: yes
[2016-11-30 20:17:19] sleger : i dont have an install with 3.6 and cant find one online either
[2016-11-30 20:17:54] j8 : python community is really not into being up to date
[2016-11-30 20:18:33] j8 : many are still on 2.7
[2016-11-30 20:18:45] numero : nice trollbox width option :thumb: