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[2016-11-28 03:43:07] Rado : http://www.sinohosting.net/china-vps.php
[2016-11-28 03:43:18] Rado : https://compevo.cn/
[2016-11-28 03:43:55] Rado : wow
[2016-11-28 03:44:01] Rado : these are pretty good prices
[2016-11-28 03:44:02] Rado : 5GB HDD 128MB RAM 1 IP Address Unmetered Bandwidth
[2016-11-28 03:44:08] Rado : for $30 per month
[2016-11-28 03:44:30] j8 : 128 megs of ram, wow
[2016-11-28 03:44:46] Rado : I thought it's 128 GB RAM
[2016-11-28 03:45:06] Rado : 128 MB sucks
[2016-11-28 03:45:15] j8 : yeah that could be an issue
[2016-11-28 03:45:58] Rado : $600/month Intel Core i3-2100 (4 logical cores) 4GB DD3 RAM 500GB SATA/128GB SSD HDD 100M Dedicated Bandwidth 1 IP Address
[2016-11-28 03:46:10] Rado : that's better, but costs $600
[2016-11-28 03:49:12] Rado : Bitstamp lagging
[2016-11-28 03:52:10] micmix : j8: okc.cn websocket is overloaded and disconnects a lot. FIX works better even from outside of mainland
[2016-11-28 03:52:31] Rado : FIX?
[2016-11-28 03:52:50] j8 : yeah, i've tried the FIX endpoint since then, and had other issues.
[2016-11-28 03:53:20] micmix : Rado: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Information_eXchange
[2016-11-28 03:54:18] Rado : micmix: they have a FIX feed?
[2016-11-28 03:55:27] j8 : micmix: do you get a proper realtime orderbook through FIX? that's the issue i had
[2016-11-28 03:57:29] rapidtrades : if bitcoin plans to roll over, today is the day
[2016-11-28 03:57:56] j8 : like they try to send deltas for like a 20 level book, and it doesn't always keep up
[2016-11-28 04:07:30] lockhedge : Rado: i'm running my bot on a 512mb ram vps and the only database i use is Redis (in-memory). simple mm strategies don't require much ram
[2016-11-28 04:08:09] Rado : lockhedge: very nice
[2016-11-28 04:08:16] Rado : what do you store in the database?
[2016-11-28 04:12:44] lockhedge : Rado: only some near real-time data (e.g. price data from various markets), order id's of my open orders...
[2016-11-28 04:18:16] j8 : yeah i checked and my python thing is only using 40MB ram.. with a dozen markets coming in but no historical data
[2016-11-28 04:22:13] micmix : j8: yes but I'm not using deltas. I subscribe to SNAPSHOT_PLUS_UPDATES with MDUpdateType FULL_REFRESH and it send top 40 couple times per second
[2016-11-28 04:23:53] micmix : plus I request market data snapshot every 10 seconds to get more depth
[2016-11-28 04:25:55] micmix : their FIX implementation is a bit quirky but works well enough. I'm using FIX with REST as a backup.
[2016-11-28 04:29:01] micmix : they screwed up with SSL certificate last week, api.okc0in.cn was using certificate for api.okc0in.com for like a week. they fixed it couple days ago.
[2016-11-28 04:30:22] j8 : i see, yeah everything about them is a bit quirky
[2016-11-28 04:32:59] micmix : yeah, but you can do couple dozen trades per minute and build bigger positions quickly. no other market comes close except huobi and they are even more quirky ;-)
[2016-11-28 04:33:28] j8 : yep, liquidity is hard to beat
[2016-11-28 04:52:46] XBT_Saver : micmix: hey when you say "bigger positions" and "quickly" do you mind telling me how quickly and how big in btc terms please man?
[2016-11-28 05:06:56] j8 : on okc.cn you can typically buy or sell 100 btc within +/- 0.1% (http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/exchanges/CNY/6m)
[2016-11-28 05:13:48] j8 : sorry that's +/- 0.05%, for a total of 0.1%
[2016-11-28 06:35:32] elmorte : Rado: you still there?
[2016-11-28 07:21:43] sisko : zec die
[2016-11-28 08:00:25] laisee : ZEC has died a few times already. like btc and eth
[2016-11-28 08:09:10] rms : and someone on bitmex is still running a buying bot for zec, so that's why the discount is gone
[2016-11-28 08:09:19] rms : they don't think it's dead...
[2016-11-28 08:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00000928
[2016-11-28 08:10:40] BitMEX_Wally : rms: I owe you some troll box bragging rights
[2016-11-28 08:11:07] rms : ;) i'll take what i can get
[2016-11-28 08:12:43] BitMEX_Wally : During the BitMEX trading competition rms had a net PNL of 28 XBT and would have won the Yacht Club prize, but unfortunately he missed the deadline for authorising the release of his name
[2016-11-28 08:15:00] rapidtrades : that doesn't seem fair
[2016-11-28 08:16:34] Boontjie : rms: Think they will run it into a premium?
[2016-11-28 08:17:10] rapidtrades : rms: how do u know it's a bot? and is it sleger?
[2016-11-28 08:20:04] rms : cause i've been buying zec without a bot
[2016-11-28 08:20:33] rms : and they front load every order i make by the smallest amount
[2016-11-28 08:20:41] rms : unless the buy order is much above them
[2016-11-28 08:20:48] CapitalGains : Why not use hidden orders?
[2016-11-28 08:20:51] rms : i doubt they are dumb enough to run it to a premium
[2016-11-28 08:21:18] Boontjie : :( That would be free money
[2016-11-28 08:21:33] rms : yeah, that works, but it's hard to get liquidity for zcash, so flashing large orders gets the sellers to notice that there is someone with the matching sentiment
[2016-11-28 08:23:18] rapidtrades : Boontjie: oh yeah? just like selling at 66% was 'free money'?
[2016-11-28 08:23:27] rapidtrades : i mean buying
[2016-11-28 08:24:14] CapitalGains : My kingdom for some BTC movement.
[2016-11-28 08:26:34] rapidtrades : bitcoin holding up well considering Yuan rolling over
[2016-11-28 08:28:44] mjones : Damn btc didn't move up
[2016-11-28 08:31:36] rapidtrades : lol why would it move it? have u checked out usd/cnh chart?
[2016-11-28 08:35:32] Boontjie : rapidtrades: Its different, beacause I can buy the actual zec for a hedge
[2016-11-28 08:35:47] Boontjie : And unroll at settlement
[2016-11-28 08:36:40] rapidtrades : ah fair point
[2016-11-28 11:02:36] rapidtrades : Yuan lost almost all gains from last night
[2016-11-28 11:37:07] Boontjie : new ATH inc
[2016-11-28 11:38:47] jonny : roll over?
[2016-11-28 12:26:21] l3f : Fucking btc going sideways
[2016-11-28 12:26:25] l3f : making me want to fuck myself sideways
[2016-11-28 12:26:32] l3f : up or down motherfucker
[2016-11-28 12:50:02] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: mate how come the XBJ has the 30 dec first then weekly then Daily , how come they change around
[2016-11-28 12:59:48] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Thanks for letting us know, we'll fix that
[2016-11-28 13:00:40] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: np mate
[2016-11-28 13:06:42] Boontjie : l3f: cant believe that is still going around
[2016-11-28 13:25:18] rapidtrades : guys time to fomo a bit, next funding after this is projected negative
[2016-11-28 13:34:01] l3f : why call it bitcoin
[2016-11-28 13:34:03] l3f : call it upanddowncoin
[2016-11-28 13:34:14] CapitalGains : Or sideways coin today
[2016-11-28 13:34:18] l3f : it goes up and down
[2016-11-28 13:34:21] l3f : all it fucking does
[2016-11-28 13:35:13] l3f : top kek CNY just keep getting shat on
[2016-11-28 13:35:16] l3f : end its suffering
[2016-11-28 13:35:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 475 @ 0.005363
[2016-11-28 13:36:37] mjones : Rep new lows
[2016-11-28 13:38:02] l3f : man ZEC is the cancer that refuses to die
[2016-11-28 13:38:28] l3f : future is a approaching the premium price
[2016-11-28 13:38:36] l3f : people betting on another pump
[2016-11-28 13:38:46] Boontjie : mjones: Is rep not based on the eth blockchain?
[2016-11-28 13:39:31] l3f : apparently a gambling platform on ethereum
[2016-11-28 13:40:01] Boontjie : Thats why, eth is not running as expected lately
[2016-11-28 13:40:01] l3f : at this point I just want btc to crash back to 680
[2016-11-28 13:40:06] habibi : rapidtrades: did u get bet ready with that guy?
[2016-11-28 13:40:07] l3f : and I'll get liquidated
[2016-11-28 13:40:14] l3f : then at least I'll feel something
[2016-11-28 13:40:22] rapidtrades : habibi: he hasn't been back
[2016-11-28 13:40:30] rapidtrades : pussied out I guess
[2016-11-28 13:40:30] CapitalGains : l3f: I'm in a similar boat except I'll get liquidated at 720
[2016-11-28 13:40:32] Boontjie : Dont think it will
[2016-11-28 13:40:55] Boontjie : but possible
[2016-11-28 13:41:12] habibi : rapidtrades: yep, he was scared already after we both agreed to that bet
[2016-11-28 13:43:35] l3f : CapitalGains: aye aye brother
[2016-11-28 13:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 30000 @ 736.73
[2016-11-28 13:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 500 @ 737.94
[2016-11-28 13:59:10] rapidtrades : omg
[2016-11-28 14:01:00] Boontjie : holy crap
[2016-11-28 14:01:01] Boontjie : 100x
[2016-11-28 14:02:42] mjones : damn wish i saw that 30k rekt wall at 736.73 to long into
[2016-11-28 14:02:48] CapitalGains : Finally, a little bit of excitement
[2016-11-28 14:07:52] CapitalGains : Anyone with experience on how close a stop loss should be to a liquidation price to be "safe", so it triggers first?
[2016-11-28 14:08:02] CapitalGains : Or should I say, how far away.
[2016-11-28 14:08:40] BitMEX_Greg : CapitalGains: Hard to say, just leave enough room for fast gaps. Essentially you w
[2016-11-28 14:09:02] rapidtrades : laaaaaag
[2016-11-28 14:09:09] BitMEX_Greg : *you want the stop loss to fill if market is moving fast and if one side quickly becomes thin
[2016-11-28 14:09:52] sleger : that's precisely his question : how much is that
[2016-11-28 14:11:26] BitMEX_Greg : I can't give an exact number as you can't predict what the market would be like.
[2016-11-28 14:11:26] CapitalGains : I mean, lets just say my trigger is set to mark and it's $2 above my liquidation price on XBTZ16, is that too close? I obviously accept the consequences of whatever happens regardless. I just thought some people might know from experience.
[2016-11-28 14:11:53] rapidtrades : prolly too close for my taste
[2016-11-28 14:11:56] sleger : you should ask trollboxer, he has great experience
[2016-11-28 14:12:33] arbitrage001 : should not over leverage
[2016-11-28 14:12:49] arbitrage001 : or bet lunch money
[2016-11-28 14:12:57] arbitrage001 : breakfast money is ok
[2016-11-28 14:13:48] CapitalGains : This is breakfast money
[2016-11-28 14:14:27] arbitrage001 : price here can become very irrational
[2016-11-28 14:14:27] CapitalGains : Last trade for the year, thought I'd make it high leverage but small amount of capital.
[2016-11-28 14:15:16] CapitalGains : Has anyone ever seen a discount on XBTZ16?
[2016-11-28 14:15:26] CapitalGains : Cos we came quite close to parity with swap
[2016-11-28 14:15:40] arbitrage001 : it is a new product
[2016-11-28 14:15:57] arbitrage001 : backwardation on btc is rare on okcoin
[2016-11-28 14:17:17] arbitrage001 : on a strong bear down trend, it will happen
[2016-11-28 14:17:39] arbitrage001 : which become likely as btc keep going up
[2016-11-28 14:18:02] CapitalGains : I think XBTH17 is going to be an interesting product
[2016-11-28 14:18:40] arbitrage001 : you plan to do spread trading?
[2016-11-28 14:19:14] arbitrage001 : sleger should give you some tips as i am sure he does it here
[2016-11-28 14:19:28] CapitalGains : Between the two futures?
[2016-11-28 14:19:34] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-11-28 14:19:44] CapitalGains : I like the sound of that
[2016-11-28 14:20:03] arbitrage001 : the last few dump
[2016-11-28 14:20:09] arbitrage001 : there are plenty of opportunity
[2016-11-28 14:20:17] rapidtrades : $8 premium is not good
[2016-11-28 14:20:18] arbitrage001 : but using hand to trade is too slow lol
[2016-11-28 14:20:26] arbitrage001 : need algo to manage the speed
[2016-11-28 14:21:40] rapidtrades : bitcoin so dumb
[2016-11-28 14:22:11] arbitrage001 : there is no dumb trading instruments
[2016-11-28 14:22:15] arbitrage001 : only dump traders
[2016-11-28 14:22:21] arbitrage001 : dumb
[2016-11-28 14:25:04] rapidtrades : well f*ck you too buddy!
[2016-11-28 14:25:13] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-11-28 14:25:20] arbitrage001 : you need to control emotion
[2016-11-28 14:25:34] arbitrage001 : ask arthur for yoga lesson
[2016-11-28 14:26:02] arbitrage001 : i just came back from jogging
[2016-11-28 14:26:09] arbitrage001 : my way to control emotion
[2016-11-28 14:28:46] rapidtrades : who are all these ppl that buy on Cyber Monday?
[2016-11-28 14:28:59] rapidtrades : there's almost nothing good
[2016-11-28 14:29:09] rapidtrades : some TVs and SD cards
[2016-11-28 14:29:13] arbitrage001 : i ordered a dell
[2016-11-28 14:29:17] arbitrage001 : desktop
[2016-11-28 14:29:31] arbitrage001 : using reshipping company
[2016-11-28 14:29:34] rapidtrades : did u get a discount?
[2016-11-28 14:29:38] arbitrage001 : yea
[2016-11-28 14:29:45] arbitrage001 : around 750 dollars
[2016-11-28 14:29:49] arbitrage001 : core i7
[2016-11-28 14:30:15] arbitrage001 : and amd graphic card
[2016-11-28 14:30:21] arbitrage001 : good price i think
[2016-11-28 14:30:21] rapidtrades : yeah desktops are cheap now, basically free
[2016-11-28 14:30:34] arbitrage001 : can use it for at least 3-5 years
[2016-11-28 14:31:24] rapidtrades : what was ur previous setup?
[2016-11-28 14:31:37] arbitrage001 : this dell laptop
[2016-11-28 14:31:43] arbitrage001 : 5-6 years old
[2016-11-28 14:31:54] arbitrage001 : keyboard already starting to break down
[2016-11-28 14:32:05] arbitrage001 : hence all the typo you saw from me
[2016-11-28 14:33:51] rapidtrades : u like Dell huh?
[2016-11-28 14:34:03] arbitrage001 : for the price
[2016-11-28 14:34:06] rapidtrades : they take bitcoin?
[2016-11-28 14:34:20] arbitrage001 : yes you can pay with btc
[2016-11-28 14:34:24] arbitrage001 : they use bitpay
[2016-11-28 14:34:31] arbitrage001 : so cheaper to use credit card
[2016-11-28 14:34:43] arbitrage001 : if i am filthy rich, i will buy apple
[2016-11-28 14:34:47] arbitrage001 : not dell
[2016-11-28 14:35:04] rapidtrades : ugh apple
[2016-11-28 14:35:20] arbitrage001 : high quality product from apple
[2016-11-28 14:35:30] arbitrage001 : not just fashion hype
[2016-11-28 14:35:37] rapidtrades : overpriced garbage for chicks and other people who are clueless about computers
[2016-11-28 14:35:51] arbitrage001 : dont agree lol
[2016-11-28 14:36:06] arbitrage001 : product quality and services are good
[2016-11-28 14:36:17] arbitrage001 : but for the price, yeah, i rather buy dell
[2016-11-28 14:42:54] sleger : apple best hardware, but yes it comes with a price
[2016-11-28 14:45:45] arbitrage001 : for good smart phone, there are really no other choice but iphone
[2016-11-28 14:46:03] arbitrage001 : airline already starting to ban samsung phone
[2016-11-28 14:46:05] rapidtrades : sleger: do u need sitting down?
[2016-11-28 14:46:28] rapidtrades : I meant to type, do u pee sitting down feg?
[2016-11-28 14:50:36] mjones : doesnt everyone pee sitting down?
[2016-11-28 14:51:07] mjones : unless you're at a urinal
[2016-11-28 14:51:36] mjones : but even then you might have a shy bladder and go for the toilet instead.
[2016-11-28 14:57:17] Rado : morning
[2016-11-28 14:58:03] Rado : why is REP down?
[2016-11-28 14:58:37] arbitrage001 : price can go up and down without reason
[2016-11-28 14:58:45] Rado : well
[2016-11-28 14:58:55] Rado : there was almost no volume before
[2016-11-28 14:59:01] Rado : now some volume and price fell
[2016-11-28 15:06:14] Rado : when is Augur going live?
[2016-11-28 15:06:25] Rado : ETH under 0.012
[2016-11-28 15:06:41] Rado : XMR holding the best of all alts
[2016-11-28 15:11:29] arbitrage001 : zcash holding out pretty well also for the last few days
[2016-11-28 15:12:26] mjones : Etc coming down for double bottom
[2016-11-28 15:13:38] mjones : Fct might be pumping soon
[2016-11-28 15:14:57] Rado : mjones: I was thinking the same
[2016-11-28 15:15:27] Rado : XBTZ16 fell to only $5 premium earlier
[2016-11-28 15:15:45] Rado : volatility very low right now
[2016-11-28 15:17:12] Rado : https://btcvol.info/
[2016-11-28 15:19:37] Rado : I am thinking we will come out of this low volatility soon
[2016-11-28 15:22:59] mjones : Fct had really low volume and sideways. .003 was good entry but now it's .0032
[2016-11-28 15:24:08] Rado : mjones: a little overbought on very short term timeframe
[2016-11-28 15:24:18] Rado : maybe buy on pullback
[2016-11-28 15:27:36] mjones : Wow rep dumping more
[2016-11-28 15:38:31] Rado : kind of getting boring
[2016-11-28 15:38:35] Rado : see ya all later
[2016-11-28 16:25:20] Rado : back to 745
[2016-11-28 16:25:30] Rado : maybe this is a start of a new uptrend
[2016-11-28 16:25:34] Rado : or a bull trap
[2016-11-28 16:25:36] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-28 16:25:56] rapidtrades : stop spamming
[2016-11-28 16:27:24] Rado : lol
[2016-11-28 16:27:28] Rado : this chat is dead
[2016-11-28 16:27:59] Rado : 403 bots
[2016-11-28 16:28:10] Rado : I wonder how many of them are actually trading
[2016-11-28 16:31:32] mjones : judging by the low amount of trades happening, not many
[2016-11-28 16:42:22] wurstgelee : oh, you can trade here? this isn't facebook?
[2016-11-28 16:50:37] BitMEX_Sam : likes this
[2016-11-28 16:52:35] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-28 16:52:37] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 17:25:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.003067
[2016-11-28 17:29:29] Tetsuo : Last(Index/Mark prices on alts are false
[2016-11-28 17:30:08] Tetsuo : ETC/XRP/REP shows "0" ETH "0.01"
[2016-11-28 17:32:19] numero : Tetsuo: would you consider yourself a psychonaut?
[2016-11-28 17:32:24] lugo : oh and zec16 mark price precision is down to 2 decimal places?!
[2016-11-28 17:32:36] Tetsuo : numero: yes
[2016-11-28 17:33:55] numero : Tetsuo: have you ever heard of vipassana meditation?
[2016-11-28 17:35:43] Tetsuo : numero: no, but i´m used to floathing tanks and self-hypnosis :-)
[2016-11-28 17:38:09] Tetsuo : the movie " altered states" inspired me to use a floathing tank a few years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9awOgeWDBA
[2016-11-28 17:39:18] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: my eth7d entry price shows as 0.01 now....
[2016-11-28 17:39:24] wurstgelee : thats not intended i guess?
[2016-11-28 17:39:34] wurstgelee : rounding much
[2016-11-28 17:39:36] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm appears we have a precision bug - thanks
[2016-11-28 17:39:39] wurstgelee : np
[2016-11-28 17:39:40] Tetsuo : Hacked and robbed?
[2016-11-28 17:39:45] wurstgelee : same for zecz16 etc
[2016-11-28 17:39:50] wurstgelee : only digits after dot
[2016-11-28 17:39:52] wurstgelee : not enough
[2016-11-28 17:40:02] wurstgelee : *only 2 digits
[2016-11-28 17:40:13] CaptainDean : guys, it's just a small issue be patient ....
[2016-11-28 17:40:27] Tetsuo : i guess now that Bit,ex has been hacked and robbed. the downfall of Bitcoin can begin
[2016-11-28 17:40:28] wurstgelee : ofc its just a presentation bug. and i am patient
[2016-11-28 17:40:45] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: ;-)
[2016-11-28 17:40:57] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 17:41:42] wurstgelee : after all, this is facebook. nobody really cares for numbers here
[2016-11-28 17:42:18] cryptobull : lol... hope they fix this soon
[2016-11-28 17:42:27] wurstgelee : my eth entry, mark and liq. price
[2016-11-28 17:42:31] wurstgelee : all .01
[2016-11-28 17:42:32] cryptobull : 0.01
[2016-11-28 17:42:34] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-28 17:42:35] cryptobull : :D
[2016-11-28 17:42:36] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-28 17:43:37] wurstgelee : cryptobull: at least 1 other person with his twitter handle here....
[2016-11-28 17:46:04] cryptobull : everyone else full anon
[2016-11-28 18:00:39] BitMEX_Sam : This price issue is fixed, thanks everyone.
[2016-11-28 18:00:44] wurstgelee : f5?
[2016-11-28 18:00:50] BitMEX_Sam : Yep.
[2016-11-28 18:00:52] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-28 18:00:54] wurstgelee : bette
[2016-11-28 18:00:56] wurstgelee : r
[2016-11-28 18:00:57] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-28 18:01:25] wurstgelee : two decimals just isnt enough sometimes ;)
[2016-11-28 18:05:01] mjones : i want bitcoin checker on android to update and add more than 2 decimals for some coins. and i want them to also add bitmex. but dev is lazy
[2016-11-28 18:08:49] mjones : i also dont want btc to dump. break that 5210 CNY resistance
[2016-11-28 18:09:45] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: We reached out to them but they never got back to us unfortunately
[2016-11-28 18:12:30] inconspic : BitMEX_Greg: was there a system update recently? like in the last 24h
[2016-11-28 18:13:17] BitMEX_Greg : inconspic: Checkingh
[2016-11-28 18:13:28] BitMEX_Sam : inconspic: Yes, is there an issue?
[2016-11-28 18:13:56] inconspic : BitMEX_Sam: nope, just noticed some changes, like last price lost some decimals
[2016-11-28 18:14:08] BitMEX_Sam : inconspic: Yes, that is a known bug and already fixed, please refresh your browser :)
[2016-11-28 18:14:27] inconspic : oh, sweet :)
[2016-11-28 18:23:02] inconspic : zec dump inc..
[2016-11-28 18:38:48] mjones : bitmex zec is going to match polo price on this dump
[2016-11-28 18:48:43] wurstgelee : i doubt that
[2016-11-28 18:48:45] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-28 18:58:48] RoftheN : Why is Zcash almost as high as Polo?
[2016-11-28 19:00:56] wurstgelee : because the market things this is where it should be traded
[2016-11-28 19:02:13] RoftheN : But the 34 days are still not over
[2016-11-28 19:04:40] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-28 19:04:59] wurstgelee : so?
[2016-11-28 19:06:37] mjones : who is the REP market maker. dont they know the current price of REP?
[2016-11-28 19:07:16] RoftheN : So they are wrong, it will go down more
[2016-11-28 19:07:18] mjones : never mind. was looking at the wrong thing
[2016-11-28 19:07:53] mjones : was looking at REP/ETH price which is why i thought current price was 4100 not 4900
[2016-11-28 19:38:37] numero : this one's for the trolls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH9EJg4o9-s
[2016-11-28 19:52:24] Tetsuo : appreciated :-) , it has has this warm 90´s indie feelin
[2016-11-28 19:52:53] Tetsuo : Sonic Youth, Dinsoaur jr
[2016-11-28 19:53:35] Tetsuo : pixies
[2016-11-28 19:54:26] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdH6C0Px3H8 i love that one
[2016-11-28 19:55:36] Tetsuo : also silver made me think ot that, when lemmy was still a hippie: one of my top 20 all time songs probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yao_T2adl14
[2016-11-28 20:03:29] wurstgelee : my musical taste got stuck on the 90s
[2016-11-28 20:03:46] wurstgelee : rock, punk, grunge, crossover
[2016-11-28 20:03:48] wurstgelee : that corner
[2016-11-28 20:04:05] wurstgelee : indie mebbe. but not that much. depends
[2016-11-28 20:04:42] numero : lol, I liked row your boat in those days, but I like what I hear
[2016-11-28 20:04:51] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-28 20:04:53] Tetsuo : i don´t see a problem with that , 80% of my record collection is pre 90´s probably. Lots o f early punk, Deth/BlackMetal, Kraut/Hippie stuff, bit Jazz
[2016-11-28 20:05:24] wurstgelee : yeah, everything roughly compatible
[2016-11-28 20:05:34] wurstgelee : as long as its not dr. alban and 2 unlimited
[2016-11-28 20:05:36] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 20:06:40] Tetsuo : no no, nonononono
[2016-11-28 20:07:07] Tetsuo : never forgot that ugly song
[2016-11-28 20:07:11] Tetsuo : it still haunts me
[2016-11-28 20:08:26] Tetsuo : https://postimg.org/image/bmm4tp55n/
[2016-11-28 20:11:55] numero : nice! vinyl making a comeback these days
[2016-11-28 20:12:13] Tetsuo : overpriced as fukk, just like BTC
[2016-11-28 20:12:34] Tetsuo : they are chargin at least around 20+ for a new LP
[2016-11-28 20:12:54] Tetsuo : i ´m used to 10-12$
[2016-11-28 20:13:16] Tetsuo : ant that was only 10y ago
[2016-11-28 20:14:51] numero : I've never really had $ for music, but I can see vinyl being a good investment as the technosphere starts to disintegrate :P
[2016-11-28 20:16:39] Tetsuo : when the inernet fails i know where i will get my sound at least
[2016-11-28 20:17:29] Tetsuo : other people build bunkers, hoard food, i buy records
[2016-11-28 20:18:42] wurstgelee : i stockpile booze
[2016-11-28 20:18:55] Tetsuo : when you see that nuclear mushroom in distance than you will feel good to hold a copy of "The Doors - The End"
[2016-11-28 20:19:19] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: stockpilin booze never worked out for me, it somehow get´s empty all the time
[2016-11-28 20:19:42] wurstgelee : i am quite disciplined in saving some of the real good stuff
[2016-11-28 20:19:59] wurstgelee : until i am not
[2016-11-28 20:20:00] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: i´m (sadly) not
[2016-11-28 20:20:01] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-28 20:20:03] Tetsuo : oh
[2016-11-28 20:20:04] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-28 20:20:13] wurstgelee : yeah, it works for some months
[2016-11-28 20:20:26] wurstgelee : then i think fuck it and kill those over the rest of the year
[2016-11-28 20:20:44] wurstgelee : so i restock every cyber monday week @ amazon
[2016-11-28 20:20:54] wurstgelee : 22 bottles ;)
[2016-11-28 20:20:55] Tetsuo : :-)
[2016-11-28 20:21:03] Tetsuo : fuck 22 bottles?
[2016-11-28 20:21:05] Tetsuo : is that true?
[2016-11-28 20:21:06] wurstgelee : 3 colleagues had to help
[2016-11-28 20:21:16] wurstgelee : yeah, a year worth of fine stuff :D
[2016-11-28 20:21:22] Tetsuo : nice
[2016-11-28 20:21:48] wurstgelee : help with ordering..can only order 1 btl each offer per client ;)
[2016-11-28 20:22:10] Tetsuo : a bottle of (even good 60$+) whiskey doesn´t live more than 2 days after it´s opened
[2016-11-28 20:22:29] wurstgelee : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Zacapa
[2016-11-28 20:22:35] wurstgelee : 8 bottles from them
[2016-11-28 20:22:45] wurstgelee : my favorite destillery
[2016-11-28 20:22:50] wurstgelee : <-- rum ftw
[2016-11-28 20:23:08] wurstgelee : *i
[2016-11-28 20:23:34] Tetsuo : looks beautiful
[2016-11-28 20:23:45] Tetsuo : still cheap@amazon? i might give it a try
[2016-11-28 20:24:36] wurstgelee : sec, lemme check
[2016-11-28 20:24:40] wurstgelee : could be
[2016-11-28 20:25:43] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: https://www.amazon.de/Ron-Zacapa-Sistema-Solera-Jahre/dp/B0046EP7NQ
[2016-11-28 20:25:50] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-11-28 20:25:52] wurstgelee : 15% off
[2016-11-28 20:26:18] Tetsuo : great, thx!
[2016-11-28 20:26:40] wurstgelee : thats a really good one. affordable. if u insist u can pay way more, thats a good basic of them
[2016-11-28 20:26:48] wurstgelee : *great basic
[2016-11-28 20:27:21] Tetsuo : i´m not familiar with rum until now
[2016-11-28 20:27:37] wurstgelee : customer reviews 4.5 average, cant got wrong
[2016-11-28 20:27:37] Tetsuo : always was more a whiskey type
[2016-11-28 20:27:41] wurstgelee : with 112 reviews
[2016-11-28 20:27:42] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 20:27:46] Tetsuo : hell yeah
[2016-11-28 20:28:08] Tetsuo : Ok, ordererd!
[2016-11-28 20:28:21] wurstgelee : you will like it, pretty sure
[2016-11-28 20:39:54] rapidtrades : GUYS DANGER NEGATIVE FUNDING
[2016-11-28 20:39:57] rapidtrades : TIME TO FOMO
[2016-11-28 20:44:31] Tetsuo : shht
[2016-11-28 20:44:39] Tetsuo : this is Facebook now
[2016-11-28 20:45:02] Tetsuo : no one cares about trading anymore
[2016-11-28 20:46:39] Tetsuo : we now only post pics about food/booze or our bookshelves https://postimg.org/image/fb1uqqwv9/
[2016-11-28 20:47:59] rapidtrades : why are you always wasted Tetsuo?
[2016-11-28 20:48:39] Tetsuo : it´s fun u should try it
[2016-11-28 20:49:41] inconspic : he needs to be wasted to be able to enjoy those books
[2016-11-28 20:49:50] inconspic : de sade..
[2016-11-28 20:51:44] Tetsuo : de sade teaches you how to enjoy shorting the market, if u get your pleasure out of seeing something gettin destroyed
[2016-11-28 20:52:12] inconspic : yes, he must have been the ultimate shorter
[2016-11-28 20:52:21] Tetsuo : i think so :-)
[2016-11-28 20:53:20] Tetsuo : i visited 120 days of salom, for the 2nd time in my life a few weeks back, don´t think i need to watch it a thrid time in the next 10 years
[2016-11-28 20:54:38] inconspic : I have not yet had the pleasure
[2016-11-28 20:54:43] inconspic : it's on my bucket list
[2016-11-28 20:54:45] inconspic : for sure
[2016-11-28 20:56:56] mjones : weekly LTC/USD BBANDS are so tight.
[2016-11-28 20:59:24] wurstgelee : i cant handle that excitement anymore. would be great if btc stabilizes a little bit after those hours of fast paced action
[2016-11-28 20:59:26] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-28 20:59:46] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: you always make me think of that guy from that book, you should read it, it changed my life when i was 20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_from_Underground
[2016-11-28 21:00:00] RoftheN : I'm 20, should I read it too?
[2016-11-28 21:00:12] wurstgelee : can u read?
[2016-11-28 21:00:34] Tetsuo : " It presents itself as an excerpt from the rambling memoirs of a bitter, isolated, unnamed narrator "
[2016-11-28 21:00:36] RoftheN : Only if written for 5 year olds
[2016-11-28 21:00:46] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-28 21:00:51] Tetsuo : i think this fits a lot of cryptocoiners
[2016-11-28 21:00:55] RoftheN : Wurstgelee why you so mean to me?
[2016-11-28 21:01:19] RoftheN : I might be bitter and isolated, but I'm not unnamed!
[2016-11-28 21:01:23] wurstgelee : not mean, just checking qualification for reading books
[2016-11-28 21:01:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 21:01:32] RoftheN : Oh okay, then you're actually nice, thanks
[2016-11-28 21:01:46] wurstgelee : lyw ofc
[2016-11-28 21:01:48] wurstgelee : kjfnda
[2016-11-28 21:01:50] wurstgelee : yw ofc
[2016-11-28 21:02:14] RoftheN : I dont't know what lyw and kjfnda means
[2016-11-28 21:02:23] wurstgelee : its a riddle
[2016-11-28 21:02:23] RoftheN : Am I getting too old?
[2016-11-28 21:02:27] Tetsuo : read more books
[2016-11-28 21:02:32] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-28 21:02:49] RoftheN : http://www.whatletter.com/2/what-does-stand-for/kjfnda
[2016-11-28 21:02:59] RoftheN : I don't believe in Astrology, sorry
[2016-11-28 21:03:28] Tetsuo : RoftheN: but u do believe in TA?
[2016-11-28 21:03:31] RoftheN : "A letter form meaning in KJFNDA. His position is as solid as the Chinese wall" Does that mean chinese buy wall?
[2016-11-28 21:03:33] RoftheN : I do believe in TA though
[2016-11-28 21:03:43] Rado : BTCC has higher volume than OKC
[2016-11-28 21:03:49] RoftheN : But I'm not sure if it's a self-creating mechanism
[2016-11-28 21:03:56] sleger : TA is just Technical Astrology
[2016-11-28 21:04:03] Rado : did okcoin turn off the volumizer?
[2016-11-28 21:04:04] Tetsuo : let´s talk about china volumes in here... lol
[2016-11-28 21:04:30] wurstgelee : http://www.whatletter.com/2/what-does-stand-for/kjfnda#meaning
[2016-11-28 21:04:32] wurstgelee : what?
[2016-11-28 21:04:36] Rado : Tetsuo: what the fuck do you want?
[2016-11-28 21:04:42] Tetsuo : maybe they aren´t 100% real, not sure though
[2016-11-28 21:04:51] Tetsuo : discussion is 3 years old
[2016-11-28 21:05:01] Rado : It's a new discussion
[2016-11-28 21:05:08] Rado : that BTCC has higher volume
[2016-11-28 21:05:13] Rado : which it never did before
[2016-11-28 21:05:26] Tetsuo : ok, go then
[2016-11-28 21:05:42] rapidtrades : guys let's remember tht sleger is short LTC and long ETH
[2016-11-28 21:05:46] sleger : if they cant even fake properly their volumes anymore i'm gonna stop trusting them !!
[2016-11-28 21:05:57] rapidtrades : so we can make fun of him in the future
[2016-11-28 21:06:08] sleger : not short LTC anymore (been couple of months)
[2016-11-28 21:06:18] rapidtrades : huh wise up i guess
[2016-11-28 21:06:23] RoftheN : Will LTC go up when it halves?
[2016-11-28 21:06:34] sleger : didnt make big enough returns to be worth it
[2016-11-28 21:06:38] Rado : the correct trade is short ETH and long XMR
[2016-11-28 21:06:41] rapidtrades : didn't it half last year? @RoftheN
[2016-11-28 21:06:48] RoftheN : It did
[2016-11-28 21:06:56] rapidtrades : when's the next one then
[2016-11-28 21:07:00] RoftheN : a little less than 3 years
[2016-11-28 21:07:03] Rado : lol
[2016-11-28 21:07:04] RoftheN : but I like to think ahead
[2016-11-28 21:07:16] rapidtrades : F*CKS OFF
[2016-11-28 21:07:26] Tetsuo : long XMR will be pretty fine when BTC starts crashin, don´t know what will happen to ETH though
[2016-11-28 21:07:31] rapidtrades : how's that for thinking ahead?
[2016-11-28 21:07:46] RoftheN : Idk, didn't think this far ahead
[2016-11-28 21:07:57] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-11-28 21:07:58] Tetsuo : buy 7 donkeys and u can suck each day a fresh dick
[2016-11-28 21:08:06] Rado : ETH is impotent
[2016-11-28 21:08:10] Rado : can't get it up anymore
[2016-11-28 21:08:23] RoftheN : Let's make a viagra smartcontract
[2016-11-28 21:08:40] CaptainDean : hey hey I have 18 ETH to sell, don't jix it, i'm waiting for a pump
[2016-11-28 21:08:47] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-11-28 21:08:59] CaptainDean : RoftheN: hahahah :D
[2016-11-28 21:11:32] Tetsuo : RoftheN: are you from netherlands?
[2016-11-28 21:11:39] RoftheN : Yes, why?
[2016-11-28 21:12:02] Tetsuo : iy you see user "michiel_kaas "could you please hit him in the face for me
[2016-11-28 21:12:09] RoftheN : Oh the 15 year old idiot
[2016-11-28 21:12:12] rapidtrades : He's the student betting tuition money ^
[2016-11-28 21:12:14] RoftheN : He's cute
[2016-11-28 21:12:31] RoftheN : Don't call it betting if it's just indirectly giving away to better traders
[2016-11-28 21:13:44] Tetsuo : wow, today is monday
[2016-11-28 21:13:49] Tetsuo : i just realized
[2016-11-28 21:13:58] Tetsuo : does that mean something for the future of BTC?
[2016-11-28 21:14:09] Tetsuo : Does it usually crash to hell on mondays?
[2016-11-28 21:14:29] RoftheN : You mean it follows a weekly pattern? I wish I knew this before
[2016-11-28 21:14:44] Tetsuo : RoftheN: on sunday the fresh money @ Gox arrives
[2016-11-28 21:15:00] Tetsuo : *d
[2016-11-28 21:15:22] RoftheN : Gox, isn't that the mountain in Japan that caused a bitcoin earthquake avalanche?
[2016-11-28 21:15:26] Tetsuo : that was quite some pattern for a few months
[2016-11-28 21:15:32] Tetsuo : sell on sunday buy on thursday
[2016-11-28 21:15:56] RoftheN : I wonder if whales made a secret pattern
[2016-11-28 21:16:06] RoftheN : Like every 4th thursday of the month sell
[2016-11-28 21:16:44] Tetsuo : that would be stupid af
[2016-11-28 21:16:50] RoftheN : Why?
[2016-11-28 21:17:25] Tetsuo : price often moves a lot between 30d
[2016-11-28 21:17:37] Tetsuo : what would be the point of it?
[2016-11-28 21:18:27] RoftheN : Idk, I'm not a stupid whale making weird af patterns for no reason
[2016-11-28 21:18:35] RoftheN : Ask them
[2016-11-28 21:19:33] Tetsuo : the 200k Bitcoin whale over@ bitcointalk often told that he can paint every pattern that he wants
[2016-11-28 21:19:38] Tetsuo : but that was before China
[2016-11-28 21:20:37] RoftheN : Sounds fun
[2016-11-28 21:35:37] mjones : here we go zec pump
[2016-11-28 21:36:27] mjones : founders reward release is delayed
[2016-11-28 21:36:34] mjones : so less sell pressure = pump
[2016-11-28 21:37:31] mjones : someone accumulated in the 0.07-0.08 area on here. shorters gonna feel the squeeze soon
[2016-11-28 21:38:00] RoftheN : ohh nice
[2016-11-28 21:48:10] orly : was that it?
[2016-11-28 21:48:22] habibi : no chance he will move this wall to 0.1 /s :D
[2016-11-28 21:49:30] aabtc : lol
[2016-11-28 21:49:59] habibi : aabtc: please put them in less agressive way next time, its too lame :p
[2016-11-28 21:50:54] l3f : zec future is almost the same as zec spot now
[2016-11-28 21:51:09] habibi : l3f: coz aabtc has big long position :p
[2016-11-28 21:51:45] l3f : all in bb
[2016-11-28 21:53:27] Tetsuo : aabtc: are u on cross, is there some way we could squeeze you? plz let us know
[2016-11-28 21:55:18] rapidtrades : ZEC on the move baby!
[2016-11-28 22:02:47] arbitrage001 : to 10btc !
[2016-11-28 22:05:20] aabtc : Tetsuo: well with 1x you'd have to make zec price go negative
[2016-11-28 22:05:56] Tetsuo : might take a few days
[2016-11-28 22:30:01] aabtc : nah today
[2016-11-28 22:30:04] aabtc : moon
[2016-11-28 23:05:49] mjones : i'm pumped for this zec pump
[2016-11-28 23:05:52] mjones : high on zec