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[2016-11-28 02:47:49] j8 : 0.03% to open, free to close
[2016-11-28 02:48:17] rapidtrades : there are no maker rebates tho
[2016-11-28 02:48:48] Rado : right
[2016-11-28 02:49:12] Rado : @j8, @rapidtrades: which one do you think it's better?
[2016-11-28 02:49:23] j8 : in terms of fee structure?
[2016-11-28 02:49:23] Rado : okc or bitvc
[2016-11-28 02:49:25] rapidtrades : for me okc is better
[2016-11-28 02:49:26] j8 : oh
[2016-11-28 02:49:32] j8 : i don't use bitvc
[2016-11-28 02:49:41] rapidtrades : oh...idk still haven't tried them either
[2016-11-28 02:50:00] j8 : i think bitvc is pure cny index
[2016-11-28 02:50:04] Rado : okc the USD site right?
[2016-11-28 02:50:10] Rado : or Chinese
[2016-11-28 02:50:23] rapidtrades : yeah okc.com
[2016-11-28 02:50:42] j8 : thewoodchipper.com
[2016-11-28 02:50:52] Rado : I have an account there, but never funded
[2016-11-28 02:52:27] j8 : they have their issues, i trade there but i wish i didn't have to
[2016-11-28 02:52:33] mjones : Nice xbt/cny soon.
[2016-11-28 02:52:37] Newmex : i dont use okc but i moved here from bitfinex. i like this futures better. and bitfinex usd funding fee is too high now. 0.1%. and less liquid than it was before their hack
[2016-11-28 02:53:30] rapidtrades : bitfinex is spot, not futures
[2016-11-28 02:53:32] rapidtrades : it's also shit
[2016-11-28 02:53:35] mjones : Xbtz16 has a million more contacts open than 10 days ago. People are coming
[2016-11-28 02:53:38] Newmex : yep
[2016-11-28 02:53:48] shery : xbtz is attractive
[2016-11-28 02:54:28] Rado : j8: 1202 and 1209 on okc are both trading at $746. How does that make sense?
[2016-11-28 02:54:42] mjones : I'm pumped for the new one. 16 more days. Get in when it opens before premium goes up
[2016-11-28 02:54:51] Rado : is not worth shorting 1202 and longing 1209
[2016-11-28 02:54:56] rapidtrades : Rado: their exchange rate is wacked
[2016-11-28 02:55:10] Rado : rapidtrades: what do you mean?
[2016-11-28 02:55:26] rapidtrades : check the exchange rate on the page ur looking
[2016-11-28 02:55:48] rapidtrades : 1USD=6.8682CNY
[2016-11-28 02:56:11] rapidtrades : market 6.9017
[2016-11-28 02:56:16] j8 : Rado: they do a really dumb thing.. to try to avoid volatility in USD/CNY affecting bitcoin traders they use a 2 week average of the exchange rate to calculate the index, and it's updated every week
[2016-11-28 02:56:59] Rado : I thought this is a USD exchange
[2016-11-28 02:57:07] rapidtrades : no their index is 50/50
[2016-11-28 02:57:23] Rado : contract prices are in USD
[2016-11-28 02:57:24] j8 : the index is 6 exchanges, 3 usd 3 cny (converted to usd with their bad rate)
[2016-11-28 02:57:25] rullwull : i always switch CNY in okc
[2016-11-28 02:57:27] rapidtrades : so in reality, that biweekly is trading at a discount right now
[2016-11-28 02:57:40] j8 : rapidtrades: wrong again
[2016-11-28 02:58:18] Rado : OK, tell me what will happen between now and Dec 2
[2016-11-28 02:58:22] Rado : for both futures
[2016-11-28 02:58:28] Rado : or what could happen
[2016-11-28 02:58:59] rapidtrades : j8: right it's at premium
[2016-11-28 02:59:00] Rado : lets say BTC is at $760 on Dec 2
[2016-11-28 02:59:43] Rado : shouldn't Dec 9 have a similar premium to what Dec 2 has now
[2016-11-28 02:59:52] j8 : this week will settle higher than it should based on current exchange rates. next week will settle with a different exchange rate, which will make the index lower, but still not as low as it should be
[2016-11-28 03:00:47] Rado : but I still think you will be net positive if you short Dec 2 and go long Dec 9
[2016-11-28 03:00:48] rapidtrades : okc is stupid
[2016-11-28 03:01:07] Rado : I should try it
[2016-11-28 03:01:14] rapidtrades : Rado: you'll be buying dec9 at premium
[2016-11-28 03:01:30] j8 : Rado: it's negative carry
[2016-11-28 03:01:36] Rado : rapidtrades: of course
[2016-11-28 03:01:49] rapidtrades : i mean much higher premium then the $1 u see
[2016-11-28 03:01:50] j8 : but it can win if all rates go up
[2016-11-28 03:02:00] Rado : right
[2016-11-28 03:03:28] Rado : they still have the max price thing
[2016-11-28 03:03:42] j8 : also if yuan devalues this week, then next week will also settle artificially high
[2016-11-28 03:03:42] Rado : Max Price: 777.87
[2016-11-28 03:04:09] rapidtrades : Rado: where do u see that
[2016-11-28 03:04:10] j8 : those are just short term circuit breakers
[2016-11-28 03:04:27] rapidtrades : oh yeah in the orders panel
[2016-11-28 03:04:54] Rado : j8: they move with the price?
[2016-11-28 03:05:36] j8 : yep, and they adjust maybe every 5 or 10 seconds. they had an actual limit on the premium of the quarterly for a while before
[2016-11-28 03:06:08] rapidtrades : still better then actual limit on the price
[2016-11-28 03:08:05] Rado : what are the buttons 10%, 20%, 50%, 100%?
[2016-11-28 03:09:24] j8 : it fills the order controls with as much as you can buy with 10% of your account, etc.
[2016-11-28 03:09:37] rapidtrades : i want to code a customizable mm bot
[2016-11-28 03:09:40] chaunceylee : 799.99
[2016-11-28 03:10:08] Rado : rapidtrades: me too
[2016-11-28 03:10:21] Rado : let's do ti
[2016-11-28 03:10:23] Rado : it
[2016-11-28 03:10:43] Rado : j8: do you program?
[2016-11-28 03:11:07] j8 : yep, well i hack things together and call it programming
[2016-11-28 03:11:18] Rado : ;-)
[2016-11-28 03:11:24] Rado : most developers do that
[2016-11-28 03:11:37] j8 : yeah i get that sense. it's a useful skill
[2016-11-28 03:11:48] rapidtrades : im still at lesson 25....i was gonna ask how much do i have to know before im able to do that
[2016-11-28 03:12:08] Rado : rapidtrades: lesson 25?
[2016-11-28 03:12:09] Rado : lol
[2016-11-28 03:12:14] Rado : you just need me
[2016-11-28 03:12:17] rapidtrades : of that stupid book
[2016-11-28 03:12:18] j8 : python the hard way?
[2016-11-28 03:12:23] rapidtrades : yeah
[2016-11-28 03:12:30] Rado : forget about books
[2016-11-28 03:12:37] Rado : the best way to learn is code
[2016-11-28 03:12:44] Rado : if you don't know something google it
[2016-11-28 03:13:30] rapidtrades : i tried that with quantopian and didn't work :)
[2016-11-28 03:13:54] Rado : I haven't used python, but I am sure I can figure it out
[2016-11-28 03:15:07] j8 : it's pretty easy as far as languages go
[2016-11-28 03:15:23] rapidtrades : easy for u
[2016-11-28 03:15:43] Rado : rapidtrades: lets build one bot together
[2016-11-28 03:15:56] Rado : I am lending myself to you for free
[2016-11-28 03:16:01] j8 : easy for you too, compared to C for example
[2016-11-28 03:16:23] Rado : j8: true
[2016-11-28 03:16:58] rapidtrades : Rado: ok let's do it
[2016-11-28 03:17:06] Rado : sure
[2016-11-28 03:17:58] Rado : rapidtrades: I actually have a Digital Ocean VPS that I haven't killed with Python and everything
[2016-11-28 03:18:15] Rado : even has gekko installed and a connection to BitMEX
[2016-11-28 03:18:55] rapidtrades : have u looked at this https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2016-11-28 03:19:03] Rado : yes
[2016-11-28 03:19:30] j8 : can get <1 ms away from bitmex if you use AWS in ireland, FYI
[2016-11-28 03:19:39] rapidtrades : tnx
[2016-11-28 03:19:55] Rado : j8: cool
[2016-11-28 03:20:02] Rado : are they on AWS?
[2016-11-28 03:20:06] j8 : yep
[2016-11-28 03:20:31] j8 : that's why the bots are so fast
[2016-11-28 03:20:57] rapidtrades : mofos
[2016-11-28 03:21:22] j8 : colo pro bono, mofo
[2016-11-28 03:23:58] rapidtrades : j8: what about okc?
[2016-11-28 03:30:22] j8 : that's not as easy
[2016-11-28 03:31:16] j8 : it's hard to maintain a good connection to okc.cn from outside of china
[2016-11-28 03:32:57] j8 : .com is better, but still not awesome
[2016-11-28 03:34:15] Rado : j8: so you can't run a bot with okc?
[2016-11-28 03:35:32] j8 : sure you can, you just have to deal with their crappy api and connectivity issues
[2016-11-28 03:38:08] j8 : i tried running a bot on the okc.cn, cause zero fees so why not.. i gave up because i kept getting disconnected from the websocket at critical times
[2016-11-28 03:38:43] j8 : you need a VPS in mainland china
[2016-11-28 03:38:50] Rado : no fees is not worth if you lose because of connectivity
[2016-11-28 03:39:04] Rado : Honk Kong wouldn't work?
[2016-11-28 03:40:34] j8 : don't think so, well the issue is the china firewall, i think hong kong is on the outside
[2016-11-28 03:43:07] Rado : http://www.sinohosting.net/china-vps.php
[2016-11-28 03:43:18] Rado : https://compevo.cn/
[2016-11-28 03:43:55] Rado : wow
[2016-11-28 03:44:01] Rado : these are pretty good prices
[2016-11-28 03:44:02] Rado : 5GB HDD 128MB RAM 1 IP Address Unmetered Bandwidth
[2016-11-28 03:44:08] Rado : for $30 per month
[2016-11-28 03:44:30] j8 : 128 megs of ram, wow
[2016-11-28 03:44:46] Rado : I thought it's 128 GB RAM
[2016-11-28 03:45:06] Rado : 128 MB sucks
[2016-11-28 03:45:15] j8 : yeah that could be an issue
[2016-11-28 03:45:58] Rado : $600/month Intel Core i3-2100 (4 logical cores) 4GB DD3 RAM 500GB SATA/128GB SSD HDD 100M Dedicated Bandwidth 1 IP Address
[2016-11-28 03:46:10] Rado : that's better, but costs $600
[2016-11-28 03:49:12] Rado : Bitstamp lagging
[2016-11-28 03:52:10] micmix : j8: okc.cn websocket is overloaded and disconnects a lot. FIX works better even from outside of mainland
[2016-11-28 03:52:31] Rado : FIX?
[2016-11-28 03:52:50] j8 : yeah, i've tried the FIX endpoint since then, and had other issues.
[2016-11-28 03:53:20] micmix : Rado: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Information_eXchange
[2016-11-28 03:54:18] Rado : micmix: they have a FIX feed?
[2016-11-28 03:55:27] j8 : micmix: do you get a proper realtime orderbook through FIX? that's the issue i had
[2016-11-28 03:57:29] rapidtrades : if bitcoin plans to roll over, today is the day
[2016-11-28 03:57:56] j8 : like they try to send deltas for like a 20 level book, and it doesn't always keep up
[2016-11-28 04:07:30] lockhedge : Rado: i'm running my bot on a 512mb ram vps and the only database i use is Redis (in-memory). simple mm strategies don't require much ram
[2016-11-28 04:08:09] Rado : lockhedge: very nice
[2016-11-28 04:08:16] Rado : what do you store in the database?
[2016-11-28 04:12:44] lockhedge : Rado: only some near real-time data (e.g. price data from various markets), order id's of my open orders...
[2016-11-28 04:18:16] j8 : yeah i checked and my python thing is only using 40MB ram.. with a dozen markets coming in but no historical data
[2016-11-28 04:22:13] micmix : j8: yes but I'm not using deltas. I subscribe to SNAPSHOT_PLUS_UPDATES with MDUpdateType FULL_REFRESH and it send top 40 couple times per second
[2016-11-28 04:23:53] micmix : plus I request market data snapshot every 10 seconds to get more depth
[2016-11-28 04:25:55] micmix : their FIX implementation is a bit quirky but works well enough. I'm using FIX with REST as a backup.
[2016-11-28 04:29:01] micmix : they screwed up with SSL certificate last week, api.okc0in.cn was using certificate for api.okc0in.com for like a week. they fixed it couple days ago.
[2016-11-28 04:30:22] j8 : i see, yeah everything about them is a bit quirky
[2016-11-28 04:32:59] micmix : yeah, but you can do couple dozen trades per minute and build bigger positions quickly. no other market comes close except huobi and they are even more quirky ;-)
[2016-11-28 04:33:28] j8 : yep, liquidity is hard to beat
[2016-11-28 04:52:46] XBT_Saver : micmix: hey when you say "bigger positions" and "quickly" do you mind telling me how quickly and how big in btc terms please man?
[2016-11-28 05:06:56] j8 : on okc.cn you can typically buy or sell 100 btc within +/- 0.1% (http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/exchanges/CNY/6m)
[2016-11-28 05:13:48] j8 : sorry that's +/- 0.05%, for a total of 0.1%
[2016-11-28 06:35:32] elmorte : Rado: you still there?
[2016-11-28 07:21:43] sisko : zec die
[2016-11-28 08:00:25] laisee : ZEC has died a few times already. like btc and eth
[2016-11-28 08:09:10] rms : and someone on bitmex is still running a buying bot for zec, so that's why the discount is gone
[2016-11-28 08:09:19] rms : they don't think it's dead...
[2016-11-28 08:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00000928
[2016-11-28 08:10:40] BitMEX_Wally : rms: I owe you some troll box bragging rights
[2016-11-28 08:11:07] rms : ;) i'll take what i can get
[2016-11-28 08:12:43] BitMEX_Wally : During the BitMEX trading competition rms had a net PNL of 28 XBT and would have won the Yacht Club prize, but unfortunately he missed the deadline for authorising the release of his name
[2016-11-28 08:15:00] rapidtrades : that doesn't seem fair
[2016-11-28 08:16:34] Boontjie : rms: Think they will run it into a premium?
[2016-11-28 08:17:10] rapidtrades : rms: how do u know it's a bot? and is it sleger?
[2016-11-28 08:20:04] rms : cause i've been buying zec without a bot
[2016-11-28 08:20:33] rms : and they front load every order i make by the smallest amount
[2016-11-28 08:20:41] rms : unless the buy order is much above them
[2016-11-28 08:20:48] CapitalGains : Why not use hidden orders?
[2016-11-28 08:20:51] rms : i doubt they are dumb enough to run it to a premium
[2016-11-28 08:21:18] Boontjie : :( That would be free money
[2016-11-28 08:21:33] rms : yeah, that works, but it's hard to get liquidity for zcash, so flashing large orders gets the sellers to notice that there is someone with the matching sentiment
[2016-11-28 08:23:18] rapidtrades : Boontjie: oh yeah? just like selling at 66% was 'free money'?
[2016-11-28 08:23:27] rapidtrades : i mean buying
[2016-11-28 08:24:14] CapitalGains : My kingdom for some BTC movement.
[2016-11-28 08:26:34] rapidtrades : bitcoin holding up well considering Yuan rolling over
[2016-11-28 08:28:44] mjones : Damn btc didn't move up
[2016-11-28 08:31:36] rapidtrades : lol why would it move it? have u checked out usd/cnh chart?
[2016-11-28 08:35:32] Boontjie : rapidtrades: Its different, beacause I can buy the actual zec for a hedge
[2016-11-28 08:35:47] Boontjie : And unroll at settlement
[2016-11-28 08:36:40] rapidtrades : ah fair point
[2016-11-28 11:02:36] rapidtrades : Yuan lost almost all gains from last night
[2016-11-28 11:37:07] Boontjie : new ATH inc
[2016-11-28 11:38:47] jonny : roll over?
[2016-11-28 12:26:21] l3f : Fucking btc going sideways
[2016-11-28 12:26:25] l3f : making me want to fuck myself sideways
[2016-11-28 12:26:32] l3f : up or down motherfucker
[2016-11-28 12:50:02] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: mate how come the XBJ has the 30 dec first then weekly then Daily , how come they change around
[2016-11-28 12:59:48] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Thanks for letting us know, we'll fix that
[2016-11-28 13:00:40] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: np mate
[2016-11-28 13:06:42] Boontjie : l3f: cant believe that is still going around
[2016-11-28 13:25:18] rapidtrades : guys time to fomo a bit, next funding after this is projected negative
[2016-11-28 13:34:01] l3f : why call it bitcoin
[2016-11-28 13:34:03] l3f : call it upanddowncoin
[2016-11-28 13:34:14] CapitalGains : Or sideways coin today
[2016-11-28 13:34:18] l3f : it goes up and down
[2016-11-28 13:34:21] l3f : all it fucking does
[2016-11-28 13:35:13] l3f : top kek CNY just keep getting shat on
[2016-11-28 13:35:16] l3f : end its suffering
[2016-11-28 13:35:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 475 @ 0.005363
[2016-11-28 13:36:37] mjones : Rep new lows
[2016-11-28 13:38:02] l3f : man ZEC is the cancer that refuses to die
[2016-11-28 13:38:28] l3f : future is a approaching the premium price
[2016-11-28 13:38:36] l3f : people betting on another pump
[2016-11-28 13:38:46] Boontjie : mjones: Is rep not based on the eth blockchain?
[2016-11-28 13:39:31] l3f : apparently a gambling platform on ethereum
[2016-11-28 13:40:01] Boontjie : Thats why, eth is not running as expected lately
[2016-11-28 13:40:01] l3f : at this point I just want btc to crash back to 680
[2016-11-28 13:40:06] habibi : rapidtrades: did u get bet ready with that guy?
[2016-11-28 13:40:07] l3f : and I'll get liquidated
[2016-11-28 13:40:14] l3f : then at least I'll feel something
[2016-11-28 13:40:22] rapidtrades : habibi: he hasn't been back
[2016-11-28 13:40:30] rapidtrades : pussied out I guess
[2016-11-28 13:40:30] CapitalGains : l3f: I'm in a similar boat except I'll get liquidated at 720
[2016-11-28 13:40:32] Boontjie : Dont think it will
[2016-11-28 13:40:55] Boontjie : but possible
[2016-11-28 13:41:12] habibi : rapidtrades: yep, he was scared already after we both agreed to that bet
[2016-11-28 13:43:35] l3f : CapitalGains: aye aye brother
[2016-11-28 13:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 30000 @ 736.73
[2016-11-28 13:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 500 @ 737.94
[2016-11-28 13:59:10] rapidtrades : omg
[2016-11-28 14:01:00] Boontjie : holy crap
[2016-11-28 14:01:01] Boontjie : 100x
[2016-11-28 14:02:42] mjones : damn wish i saw that 30k rekt wall at 736.73 to long into
[2016-11-28 14:02:48] CapitalGains : Finally, a little bit of excitement
[2016-11-28 14:07:52] CapitalGains : Anyone with experience on how close a stop loss should be to a liquidation price to be "safe", so it triggers first?
[2016-11-28 14:08:02] CapitalGains : Or should I say, how far away.
[2016-11-28 14:08:40] BitMEX_Greg : CapitalGains: Hard to say, just leave enough room for fast gaps. Essentially you w
[2016-11-28 14:09:02] rapidtrades : laaaaaag
[2016-11-28 14:09:09] BitMEX_Greg : *you want the stop loss to fill if market is moving fast and if one side quickly becomes thin
[2016-11-28 14:09:52] sleger : that's precisely his question : how much is that
[2016-11-28 14:11:26] BitMEX_Greg : I can't give an exact number as you can't predict what the market would be like.
[2016-11-28 14:11:26] CapitalGains : I mean, lets just say my trigger is set to mark and it's $2 above my liquidation price on XBTZ16, is that too close? I obviously accept the consequences of whatever happens regardless. I just thought some people might know from experience.
[2016-11-28 14:11:53] rapidtrades : prolly too close for my taste
[2016-11-28 14:11:56] sleger : you should ask trollboxer, he has great experience
[2016-11-28 14:12:33] arbitrage001 : should not over leverage
[2016-11-28 14:12:49] arbitrage001 : or bet lunch money
[2016-11-28 14:12:57] arbitrage001 : breakfast money is ok
[2016-11-28 14:13:48] CapitalGains : This is breakfast money
[2016-11-28 14:14:27] arbitrage001 : price here can become very irrational
[2016-11-28 14:14:27] CapitalGains : Last trade for the year, thought I'd make it high leverage but small amount of capital.
[2016-11-28 14:15:16] CapitalGains : Has anyone ever seen a discount on XBTZ16?
[2016-11-28 14:15:26] CapitalGains : Cos we came quite close to parity with swap
[2016-11-28 14:15:40] arbitrage001 : it is a new product
[2016-11-28 14:15:57] arbitrage001 : backwardation on btc is rare on okcoin
[2016-11-28 14:17:17] arbitrage001 : on a strong bear down trend, it will happen
[2016-11-28 14:17:39] arbitrage001 : which become likely as btc keep going up
[2016-11-28 14:18:02] CapitalGains : I think XBTH17 is going to be an interesting product
[2016-11-28 14:18:40] arbitrage001 : you plan to do spread trading?
[2016-11-28 14:19:14] arbitrage001 : sleger should give you some tips as i am sure he does it here
[2016-11-28 14:19:28] CapitalGains : Between the two futures?
[2016-11-28 14:19:34] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-11-28 14:19:44] CapitalGains : I like the sound of that
[2016-11-28 14:20:03] arbitrage001 : the last few dump
[2016-11-28 14:20:09] arbitrage001 : there are plenty of opportunity
[2016-11-28 14:20:17] rapidtrades : $8 premium is not good
[2016-11-28 14:20:18] arbitrage001 : but using hand to trade is too slow lol
[2016-11-28 14:20:26] arbitrage001 : need algo to manage the speed
[2016-11-28 14:21:40] rapidtrades : bitcoin so dumb
[2016-11-28 14:22:11] arbitrage001 : there is no dumb trading instruments
[2016-11-28 14:22:15] arbitrage001 : only dump traders
[2016-11-28 14:22:21] arbitrage001 : dumb
[2016-11-28 14:25:04] rapidtrades : well f*ck you too buddy!
[2016-11-28 14:25:13] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-11-28 14:25:20] arbitrage001 : you need to control emotion
[2016-11-28 14:25:34] arbitrage001 : ask arthur for yoga lesson
[2016-11-28 14:26:02] arbitrage001 : i just came back from jogging
[2016-11-28 14:26:09] arbitrage001 : my way to control emotion
[2016-11-28 14:28:46] rapidtrades : who are all these ppl that buy on Cyber Monday?
[2016-11-28 14:28:59] rapidtrades : there's almost nothing good
[2016-11-28 14:29:09] rapidtrades : some TVs and SD cards
[2016-11-28 14:29:13] arbitrage001 : i ordered a dell
[2016-11-28 14:29:17] arbitrage001 : desktop
[2016-11-28 14:29:31] arbitrage001 : using reshipping company
[2016-11-28 14:29:34] rapidtrades : did u get a discount?
[2016-11-28 14:29:38] arbitrage001 : yea
[2016-11-28 14:29:45] arbitrage001 : around 750 dollars
[2016-11-28 14:29:49] arbitrage001 : core i7
[2016-11-28 14:30:15] arbitrage001 : and amd graphic card
[2016-11-28 14:30:21] arbitrage001 : good price i think
[2016-11-28 14:30:21] rapidtrades : yeah desktops are cheap now, basically free
[2016-11-28 14:30:34] arbitrage001 : can use it for at least 3-5 years
[2016-11-28 14:31:24] rapidtrades : what was ur previous setup?
[2016-11-28 14:31:37] arbitrage001 : this dell laptop
[2016-11-28 14:31:43] arbitrage001 : 5-6 years old
[2016-11-28 14:31:54] arbitrage001 : keyboard already starting to break down
[2016-11-28 14:32:05] arbitrage001 : hence all the typo you saw from me
[2016-11-28 14:33:51] rapidtrades : u like Dell huh?
[2016-11-28 14:34:03] arbitrage001 : for the price
[2016-11-28 14:34:06] rapidtrades : they take bitcoin?
[2016-11-28 14:34:20] arbitrage001 : yes you can pay with btc
[2016-11-28 14:34:24] arbitrage001 : they use bitpay
[2016-11-28 14:34:31] arbitrage001 : so cheaper to use credit card
[2016-11-28 14:34:43] arbitrage001 : if i am filthy rich, i will buy apple
[2016-11-28 14:34:47] arbitrage001 : not dell
[2016-11-28 14:35:04] rapidtrades : ugh apple
[2016-11-28 14:35:20] arbitrage001 : high quality product from apple
[2016-11-28 14:35:30] arbitrage001 : not just fashion hype
[2016-11-28 14:35:37] rapidtrades : overpriced garbage for chicks and other people who are clueless about computers
[2016-11-28 14:35:51] arbitrage001 : dont agree lol
[2016-11-28 14:36:06] arbitrage001 : product quality and services are good
[2016-11-28 14:36:17] arbitrage001 : but for the price, yeah, i rather buy dell
[2016-11-28 14:42:54] sleger : apple best hardware, but yes it comes with a price
[2016-11-28 14:45:45] arbitrage001 : for good smart phone, there are really no other choice but iphone
[2016-11-28 14:46:03] arbitrage001 : airline already starting to ban samsung phone
[2016-11-28 14:46:05] rapidtrades : sleger: do u need sitting down?
[2016-11-28 14:46:28] rapidtrades : I meant to type, do u pee sitting down feg?
[2016-11-28 14:50:36] mjones : doesnt everyone pee sitting down?
[2016-11-28 14:51:07] mjones : unless you're at a urinal
[2016-11-28 14:51:36] mjones : but even then you might have a shy bladder and go for the toilet instead.
[2016-11-28 14:57:17] Rado : morning
[2016-11-28 14:58:03] Rado : why is REP down?
[2016-11-28 14:58:37] arbitrage001 : price can go up and down without reason
[2016-11-28 14:58:45] Rado : well
[2016-11-28 14:58:55] Rado : there was almost no volume before
[2016-11-28 14:59:01] Rado : now some volume and price fell
[2016-11-28 15:06:14] Rado : when is Augur going live?
[2016-11-28 15:06:25] Rado : ETH under 0.012
[2016-11-28 15:06:41] Rado : XMR holding the best of all alts
[2016-11-28 15:11:29] arbitrage001 : zcash holding out pretty well also for the last few days
[2016-11-28 15:12:26] mjones : Etc coming down for double bottom
[2016-11-28 15:13:38] mjones : Fct might be pumping soon
[2016-11-28 15:14:57] Rado : mjones: I was thinking the same
[2016-11-28 15:15:27] Rado : XBTZ16 fell to only $5 premium earlier
[2016-11-28 15:15:45] Rado : volatility very low right now
[2016-11-28 15:17:12] Rado : https://btcvol.info/
[2016-11-28 15:19:37] Rado : I am thinking we will come out of this low volatility soon
[2016-11-28 15:22:59] mjones : Fct had really low volume and sideways. .003 was good entry but now it's .0032
[2016-11-28 15:24:08] Rado : mjones: a little overbought on very short term timeframe
[2016-11-28 15:24:18] Rado : maybe buy on pullback
[2016-11-28 15:27:36] mjones : Wow rep dumping more
[2016-11-28 15:38:31] Rado : kind of getting boring
[2016-11-28 15:38:35] Rado : see ya all later
[2016-11-28 16:25:20] Rado : back to 745
[2016-11-28 16:25:30] Rado : maybe this is a start of a new uptrend
[2016-11-28 16:25:34] Rado : or a bull trap
[2016-11-28 16:25:36] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-28 16:25:56] rapidtrades : stop spamming
[2016-11-28 16:27:24] Rado : lol
[2016-11-28 16:27:28] Rado : this chat is dead
[2016-11-28 16:27:59] Rado : 403 bots
[2016-11-28 16:28:10] Rado : I wonder how many of them are actually trading
[2016-11-28 16:31:32] mjones : judging by the low amount of trades happening, not many
[2016-11-28 16:42:22] wurstgelee : oh, you can trade here? this isn't facebook?
[2016-11-28 16:50:37] BitMEX_Sam : likes this
[2016-11-28 16:52:35] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-28 16:52:37] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 17:25:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.003067
[2016-11-28 17:29:29] Tetsuo : Last(Index/Mark prices on alts are false
[2016-11-28 17:30:08] Tetsuo : ETC/XRP/REP shows "0" ETH "0.01"
[2016-11-28 17:32:19] numero : Tetsuo: would you consider yourself a psychonaut?
[2016-11-28 17:32:24] lugo : oh and zec16 mark price precision is down to 2 decimal places?!
[2016-11-28 17:32:36] Tetsuo : numero: yes
[2016-11-28 17:33:55] numero : Tetsuo: have you ever heard of vipassana meditation?
[2016-11-28 17:35:43] Tetsuo : numero: no, but i´m used to floathing tanks and self-hypnosis :-)
[2016-11-28 17:38:09] Tetsuo : the movie " altered states" inspired me to use a floathing tank a few years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9awOgeWDBA
[2016-11-28 17:39:18] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: my eth7d entry price shows as 0.01 now....
[2016-11-28 17:39:24] wurstgelee : thats not intended i guess?
[2016-11-28 17:39:34] wurstgelee : rounding much
[2016-11-28 17:39:36] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm appears we have a precision bug - thanks
[2016-11-28 17:39:39] wurstgelee : np
[2016-11-28 17:39:40] Tetsuo : Hacked and robbed?
[2016-11-28 17:39:45] wurstgelee : same for zecz16 etc
[2016-11-28 17:39:50] wurstgelee : only digits after dot
[2016-11-28 17:39:52] wurstgelee : not enough
[2016-11-28 17:40:02] wurstgelee : *only 2 digits
[2016-11-28 17:40:13] CaptainDean : guys, it's just a small issue be patient ....
[2016-11-28 17:40:27] Tetsuo : i guess now that Bit,ex has been hacked and robbed. the downfall of Bitcoin can begin
[2016-11-28 17:40:28] wurstgelee : ofc its just a presentation bug. and i am patient
[2016-11-28 17:40:45] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: ;-)
[2016-11-28 17:40:57] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 17:41:42] wurstgelee : after all, this is facebook. nobody really cares for numbers here
[2016-11-28 17:42:18] cryptobull : lol... hope they fix this soon
[2016-11-28 17:42:27] wurstgelee : my eth entry, mark and liq. price
[2016-11-28 17:42:31] wurstgelee : all .01
[2016-11-28 17:42:32] cryptobull : 0.01
[2016-11-28 17:42:34] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-28 17:42:35] cryptobull : :D
[2016-11-28 17:42:36] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-28 17:43:37] wurstgelee : cryptobull: at least 1 other person with his twitter handle here....
[2016-11-28 17:46:04] cryptobull : everyone else full anon
[2016-11-28 18:00:39] BitMEX_Sam : This price issue is fixed, thanks everyone.
[2016-11-28 18:00:44] wurstgelee : f5?
[2016-11-28 18:00:50] BitMEX_Sam : Yep.
[2016-11-28 18:00:52] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-28 18:00:54] wurstgelee : bette
[2016-11-28 18:00:56] wurstgelee : r
[2016-11-28 18:00:57] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-28 18:01:25] wurstgelee : two decimals just isnt enough sometimes ;)
[2016-11-28 18:05:01] mjones : i want bitcoin checker on android to update and add more than 2 decimals for some coins. and i want them to also add bitmex. but dev is lazy
[2016-11-28 18:08:49] mjones : i also dont want btc to dump. break that 5210 CNY resistance
[2016-11-28 18:09:45] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: We reached out to them but they never got back to us unfortunately
[2016-11-28 18:12:30] inconspic : BitMEX_Greg: was there a system update recently? like in the last 24h
[2016-11-28 18:13:17] BitMEX_Greg : inconspic: Checkingh
[2016-11-28 18:13:28] BitMEX_Sam : inconspic: Yes, is there an issue?
[2016-11-28 18:13:56] inconspic : BitMEX_Sam: nope, just noticed some changes, like last price lost some decimals
[2016-11-28 18:14:08] BitMEX_Sam : inconspic: Yes, that is a known bug and already fixed, please refresh your browser :)
[2016-11-28 18:14:27] inconspic : oh, sweet :)
[2016-11-28 18:23:02] inconspic : zec dump inc..
[2016-11-28 18:38:48] mjones : bitmex zec is going to match polo price on this dump
[2016-11-28 18:48:43] wurstgelee : i doubt that
[2016-11-28 18:48:45] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-28 18:58:48] RoftheN : Why is Zcash almost as high as Polo?
[2016-11-28 19:00:56] wurstgelee : because the market things this is where it should be traded
[2016-11-28 19:02:13] RoftheN : But the 34 days are still not over
[2016-11-28 19:04:40] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-28 19:04:59] wurstgelee : so?
[2016-11-28 19:06:37] mjones : who is the REP market maker. dont they know the current price of REP?
[2016-11-28 19:07:16] RoftheN : So they are wrong, it will go down more
[2016-11-28 19:07:18] mjones : never mind. was looking at the wrong thing
[2016-11-28 19:07:53] mjones : was looking at REP/ETH price which is why i thought current price was 4100 not 4900
[2016-11-28 19:38:37] numero : this one's for the trolls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH9EJg4o9-s
[2016-11-28 19:52:24] Tetsuo : appreciated :-) , it has has this warm 90´s indie feelin
[2016-11-28 19:52:53] Tetsuo : Sonic Youth, Dinsoaur jr
[2016-11-28 19:53:35] Tetsuo : pixies
[2016-11-28 19:54:26] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdH6C0Px3H8 i love that one
[2016-11-28 19:55:36] Tetsuo : also silver made me think ot that, when lemmy was still a hippie: one of my top 20 all time songs probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yao_T2adl14
[2016-11-28 20:03:29] wurstgelee : my musical taste got stuck on the 90s
[2016-11-28 20:03:46] wurstgelee : rock, punk, grunge, crossover
[2016-11-28 20:03:48] wurstgelee : that corner
[2016-11-28 20:04:05] wurstgelee : indie mebbe. but not that much. depends
[2016-11-28 20:04:42] numero : lol, I liked row your boat in those days, but I like what I hear
[2016-11-28 20:04:51] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-28 20:04:53] Tetsuo : i don´t see a problem with that , 80% of my record collection is pre 90´s probably. Lots o f early punk, Deth/BlackMetal, Kraut/Hippie stuff, bit Jazz
[2016-11-28 20:05:24] wurstgelee : yeah, everything roughly compatible
[2016-11-28 20:05:34] wurstgelee : as long as its not dr. alban and 2 unlimited
[2016-11-28 20:05:36] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 20:06:40] Tetsuo : no no, nonononono
[2016-11-28 20:07:07] Tetsuo : never forgot that ugly song
[2016-11-28 20:07:11] Tetsuo : it still haunts me
[2016-11-28 20:08:26] Tetsuo : https://postimg.org/image/bmm4tp55n/
[2016-11-28 20:11:55] numero : nice! vinyl making a comeback these days
[2016-11-28 20:12:13] Tetsuo : overpriced as fukk, just like BTC
[2016-11-28 20:12:34] Tetsuo : they are chargin at least around 20+ for a new LP
[2016-11-28 20:12:54] Tetsuo : i ´m used to 10-12$
[2016-11-28 20:13:16] Tetsuo : ant that was only 10y ago
[2016-11-28 20:14:51] numero : I've never really had $ for music, but I can see vinyl being a good investment as the technosphere starts to disintegrate :P
[2016-11-28 20:16:39] Tetsuo : when the inernet fails i know where i will get my sound at least
[2016-11-28 20:17:29] Tetsuo : other people build bunkers, hoard food, i buy records
[2016-11-28 20:18:42] wurstgelee : i stockpile booze
[2016-11-28 20:18:55] Tetsuo : when you see that nuclear mushroom in distance than you will feel good to hold a copy of "The Doors - The End"
[2016-11-28 20:19:19] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: stockpilin booze never worked out for me, it somehow get´s empty all the time
[2016-11-28 20:19:42] wurstgelee : i am quite disciplined in saving some of the real good stuff
[2016-11-28 20:19:59] wurstgelee : until i am not
[2016-11-28 20:20:00] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: i´m (sadly) not
[2016-11-28 20:20:01] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-28 20:20:03] Tetsuo : oh
[2016-11-28 20:20:04] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-28 20:20:13] wurstgelee : yeah, it works for some months
[2016-11-28 20:20:26] wurstgelee : then i think fuck it and kill those over the rest of the year
[2016-11-28 20:20:44] wurstgelee : so i restock every cyber monday week @ amazon
[2016-11-28 20:20:54] wurstgelee : 22 bottles ;)
[2016-11-28 20:20:55] Tetsuo : :-)
[2016-11-28 20:21:03] Tetsuo : fuck 22 bottles?
[2016-11-28 20:21:05] Tetsuo : is that true?
[2016-11-28 20:21:06] wurstgelee : 3 colleagues had to help
[2016-11-28 20:21:16] wurstgelee : yeah, a year worth of fine stuff :D
[2016-11-28 20:21:22] Tetsuo : nice
[2016-11-28 20:21:48] wurstgelee : help with ordering..can only order 1 btl each offer per client ;)
[2016-11-28 20:22:10] Tetsuo : a bottle of (even good 60$+) whiskey doesn´t live more than 2 days after it´s opened
[2016-11-28 20:22:29] wurstgelee : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Zacapa
[2016-11-28 20:22:35] wurstgelee : 8 bottles from them
[2016-11-28 20:22:45] wurstgelee : my favorite destillery
[2016-11-28 20:22:50] wurstgelee : <-- rum ftw
[2016-11-28 20:23:08] wurstgelee : *i
[2016-11-28 20:23:34] Tetsuo : looks beautiful
[2016-11-28 20:23:45] Tetsuo : still cheap@amazon? i might give it a try
[2016-11-28 20:24:36] wurstgelee : sec, lemme check
[2016-11-28 20:24:40] wurstgelee : could be
[2016-11-28 20:25:43] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: https://www.amazon.de/Ron-Zacapa-Sistema-Solera-Jahre/dp/B0046EP7NQ
[2016-11-28 20:25:50] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-11-28 20:25:52] wurstgelee : 15% off
[2016-11-28 20:26:18] Tetsuo : great, thx!
[2016-11-28 20:26:40] wurstgelee : thats a really good one. affordable. if u insist u can pay way more, thats a good basic of them
[2016-11-28 20:26:48] wurstgelee : *great basic
[2016-11-28 20:27:21] Tetsuo : i´m not familiar with rum until now
[2016-11-28 20:27:37] wurstgelee : customer reviews 4.5 average, cant got wrong
[2016-11-28 20:27:37] Tetsuo : always was more a whiskey type
[2016-11-28 20:27:41] wurstgelee : with 112 reviews
[2016-11-28 20:27:42] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-28 20:27:46] Tetsuo : hell yeah
[2016-11-28 20:28:08] Tetsuo : Ok, ordererd!
[2016-11-28 20:28:21] wurstgelee : you will like it, pretty sure
[2016-11-28 20:39:54] rapidtrades : GUYS DANGER NEGATIVE FUNDING
[2016-11-28 20:39:57] rapidtrades : TIME TO FOMO
[2016-11-28 20:44:31] Tetsuo : shht
[2016-11-28 20:44:39] Tetsuo : this is Facebook now
[2016-11-28 20:45:02] Tetsuo : no one cares about trading anymore
[2016-11-28 20:46:39] Tetsuo : we now only post pics about food/booze or our bookshelves https://postimg.org/image/fb1uqqwv9/
[2016-11-28 20:47:59] rapidtrades : why are you always wasted Tetsuo?
[2016-11-28 20:48:39] Tetsuo : it´s fun u should try it
[2016-11-28 20:49:41] inconspic : he needs to be wasted to be able to enjoy those books
[2016-11-28 20:49:50] inconspic : de sade..
[2016-11-28 20:51:44] Tetsuo : de sade teaches you how to enjoy shorting the market, if u get your pleasure out of seeing something gettin destroyed
[2016-11-28 20:52:12] inconspic : yes, he must have been the ultimate shorter
[2016-11-28 20:52:21] Tetsuo : i think so :-)
[2016-11-28 20:53:20] Tetsuo : i visited 120 days of salom, for the 2nd time in my life a few weeks back, don´t think i need to watch it a thrid time in the next 10 years