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[2016-11-26 23:16:49] Tetsuo : back to the future?
[2016-11-26 23:16:53] rapidtrades : historically yes, right now no
[2016-11-26 23:17:11] inconspic : rapidtrades, ok - so the documentation is outdated :)
[2016-11-26 23:17:15] inconspic : thx
[2016-11-26 23:17:40] rapidtrades : yeah they tinkered with it a ton but right now there is only a cap at 100 BTC
[2016-11-26 23:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.012670
[2016-11-26 23:32:35] aethlios : dec. 4 is italian referendum, could start rallying if rentsi loses,
[2016-11-26 23:33:54] Tetsuo : aethlios: sry but no
[2016-11-26 23:34:31] Tetsuo : china ban referendum and hardfork referendum are way more anticipated
[2016-11-26 23:34:48] aethlios : https://www.zebpay.com/
[2016-11-26 23:35:04] aethlios : india btc around 980 usd
[2016-11-26 23:35:24] Tetsuo : nigeria above 1100 ----> fukks given --->0
[2016-11-26 23:36:07] aethlios : how bad is an ecomnomy can be understood by th ebtc premium in local currency
[2016-11-26 23:38:43] aethlios : Tetsuo: https://localbitcoins.com/country/NG
[2016-11-26 23:39:01] Tetsuo : thx my prince
[2016-11-26 23:39:29] Tetsuo : i´m not interested in NGN right now
[2016-11-26 23:39:51] aethlios : true, didn't now and more. so it is better to go on free holidays in nigeria, buy 1 btc in the west for 730 and spend the difference in btc up to 1200 selling it locally.
[2016-11-26 23:40:14] Tetsuo : can i sell a whole BTC there?
[2016-11-26 23:40:22] Tetsuo : or is demand less?
[2016-11-26 23:40:48] Tetsuo : what are the chances of gettin scammed in Nigeria anyways?
[2016-11-26 23:41:01] Tetsuo : are they trustworthy when it comes to money?
[2016-11-26 23:41:31] aethlios : Tetsuo: scammed few, more chances to be boiled and eaten.
[2016-11-26 23:41:59] Tetsuo : aethlios: if spread would be functionin i guess there actually a million techsavvy nigerians who woould love to close the gap
[2016-11-26 23:42:55] wurstgelee : closed my longs
[2016-11-26 23:43:07] aethlios : so btc already new ATH in nigeria
[2016-11-26 23:43:28] Tetsuo : aethlios: get out before it´s too late
[2016-11-26 23:51:16] Tetsuo : the 1w on western exchanges could be the start of a great head & shoulders pattern with a nice double top
[2016-11-27 00:03:28] aethlios : Tetsuo: https://www.tradingview.com/x/0Zrq2ZaV/
[2016-11-27 00:05:36] Tetsuo : western buyers don´t seem to be convinced now, if it stabilizes here for 2-3 more weeks i would consider it bullish
[2016-11-27 00:05:59] Rado : aethlios: nice chart
[2016-11-27 00:06:26] aethlios : Tetsuo: triangle has 20 days more room to consolidate, so we could stay below 765 until de. 20
[2016-11-27 00:06:27] Rado : Tetsuo: 2-3 weeks is a lot for crypto
[2016-11-27 00:06:54] Rado : end and begging of the year is always fun
[2016-11-27 00:07:35] Tetsuo : 2015&2016 says different
[2016-11-27 00:08:43] aethlios : thae rise to 1200 will take us 20 to 30 days and will be panic because we touch previous ATH, which means bull market continuation confirms if price runs to 1400 or 1500
[2016-11-27 00:09:53] Tetsuo : the fall down to 500$ might shake confidence and take us to a 3y ATL
[2016-11-27 00:09:56] aethlios : new top could be around 25,000 or more, because we consolidate 3 years now, the most consolidation since btc created.
[2016-11-27 00:10:52] Tetsuo : i will sell mine @ 24000$ just to be on the safe side
[2016-11-27 00:11:06] aethlios : Tetsuo: you see how the market absorbed the bitfinex crash? very quickly, if there are fundamental reasons to go up it can't be stopped.
[2016-11-27 00:11:39] Tetsuo : market only cares about china related events
[2016-11-27 00:12:04] aethlios : yes 25,000 new top and then an 85% drop as usual to 4,000 to rebuy
[2016-11-27 00:12:28] Tetsuo : aethlios: how high are u right now?
[2016-11-27 00:12:47] zanza : [8]
[2016-11-27 00:12:57] Tetsuo : thought so
[2016-11-27 00:14:16] aethlios : zanza: https://www.tradingview.com/x/D5nUCuAe/ show tetsuo that graph
[2016-11-27 00:15:00] Tetsuo : aethlios: millions of pennystock investors have been convinced to buy with that chart
[2016-11-27 00:15:37] aethlios : Tetsuo: this is the future btc chart against any fiat
[2016-11-27 00:15:49] Tetsuo : aethlios: ok, thx, i will buy now
[2016-11-27 00:42:46] rapidtrades : aethlios: how's ur coinsbank card working?
[2016-11-27 00:43:17] aethlios : rapidtrades: works fine, what do you mean?
[2016-11-27 00:45:43] rapidtrades : aethlios: just checking, lot of mixed reviews on bitcointalk
[2016-11-27 00:47:16] aethlios : don't read old reviews, they changed a lot, now the have the exchange to sill at a favorite price, last 3 months this works.
[2016-11-27 00:48:20] rapidtrades : ok cool
[2016-11-27 00:49:32] aethlios : i have the white labeled.
[2016-11-27 00:58:20] rapidtrades : do u remember how long verification took?
[2016-11-27 01:01:31] aethlios : 3 days
[2016-11-27 01:08:09] l3f : my target for btc: 680
[2016-11-27 01:08:12] l3f : then 800
[2016-11-27 01:08:18] l3f : after segwits unfuck themselves
[2016-11-27 01:08:24] l3f : if they don't we'll see it go to zero
[2016-11-27 01:13:32] rapidtrades : segwit doesn't matter
[2016-11-27 01:22:40] rapidtrades : why the $2 discount?
[2016-11-27 01:24:22] zanza : inside information
[2016-11-27 01:24:42] rapidtrades : also okc futures are priced really strange atm
[2016-11-27 01:24:51] rapidtrades : both weekly and biweekly are near index
[2016-11-27 01:25:04] rapidtrades : but index is 1.1% below offshore Yuan rate
[2016-11-27 01:25:49] rapidtrades : even onshore rate is around 0.9% higher
[2016-11-27 01:26:05] Tetsuo : It looks pretty bad!
[2016-11-27 01:26:36] rapidtrades : December 30th only $8 premium
[2016-11-27 01:27:02] rapidtrades : how much is that real after we adjust for the lower rate? $1?
[2016-11-27 01:27:08] rapidtrades : or 0?
[2016-11-27 01:27:58] rapidtrades : ZEC only 15% discount atm
[2016-11-27 01:28:12] rapidtrades : still a bargain for such a great coin with solid fundamentals
[2016-11-27 01:29:40] zanza : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfM90Yuyixw
[2016-11-27 01:30:34] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-27 01:30:52] Tetsuo : bringin it down
[2016-11-27 01:31:29] Rado : rapidtrades: did you average down?
[2016-11-27 01:32:50] sleger : just like Joey doesnt share food, rapid doesnt average down
[2016-11-27 01:32:53] sleger : 2 great minds at work
[2016-11-27 01:35:59] rapidtrades : if I ever average down it won't be here where the rules can changed at any moment
[2016-11-27 01:42:00] rapidtrades : any tried eGifter?
[2016-11-27 01:42:19] rapidtrades : all these sites have terrible ratings...hard to know which one to trust
[2016-11-27 01:45:25] sleger : what is your goal ?
[2016-11-27 01:46:05] rapidtrades : wanna buy from amazon with btc
[2016-11-27 01:46:19] sleger : i think purse is your best bet
[2016-11-27 01:46:19] mjones : https://www.gyft.com/
[2016-11-27 01:47:22] rapidtrades : i get nothing back on gyft
[2016-11-27 01:47:24] sleger : mjones: there is no discount there, who buys a gift card full price ??
[2016-11-27 01:47:32] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-11-27 01:48:30] sleger : mjones: which one is worth more you think ? 100$ bill or a fake 100$ bill that can only be spent at amazon
[2016-11-27 01:52:31] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: hey rapid, did you guys found an escrow ?
[2016-11-27 01:55:29] rapidtrades : no bitmex doesn't want to do it and the joker doesn't trust 'randoms'
[2016-11-27 01:56:36] rangle : did you look into bitbet?
[2016-11-27 01:59:45] sleger : rapidtrades: can't someone mum do it ? you seem to know most of them
[2016-11-27 02:06:18] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: sucksss
[2016-11-27 02:07:29] rapidtrades : He was an idiot...first he says I made enough money to buy a new car...but then only wants to bet 1 BTC
[2016-11-27 02:11:47] CaptainDean : well, nothing much you can do now
[2016-11-27 02:11:51] rapidtrades : onlly $9 premium on DEC30, shit's getting real
[2016-11-27 02:15:12] rapidtrades : rangle: bitbet has 4 btc minimum for custom bets
[2016-11-27 02:23:47] viptrader : mm
[2016-11-27 02:43:21] QuantFocus : anyone expecting negative premium on xbtz if this thing dumps?
[2016-11-27 02:44:25] sleger : small <0 maybe
[2016-11-27 02:44:38] sleger : nop is 2m so its possible
[2016-11-27 02:44:50] QuantFocus : nop?
[2016-11-27 02:44:58] sleger : open interest
[2016-11-27 02:45:01] QuantFocus : ah
[2016-11-27 02:45:07] sleger : net open position
[2016-11-27 02:45:18] QuantFocus : so you think due to liquidations or just panic sells?
[2016-11-27 02:45:25] sleger : liq
[2016-11-27 02:45:45] sleger : sells can bring it close to zero, liq do the rest
[2016-11-27 02:46:21] QuantFocus : interestign
[2016-11-27 02:46:25] QuantFocus : ng*
[2016-11-27 02:47:21] QuantFocus : 660-680 support?
[2016-11-27 02:48:34] QuantFocus : some serious additions to those top 3 okc holders
[2016-11-27 02:57:02] micmix : rapidtrades: you can ask REKT to do an escrow, he might do it if you ask nicely. call him Your Robotic Majesty, he likes that
[2016-11-27 03:34:48] rapidtrades : micmix: not up to me :)
[2016-11-27 03:37:06] micmix : well if nope doesn't trust REKT I guess he will not trust anyone. Everyone knows and loves REKT ;-)
[2016-11-27 03:39:23] rapidtrades : the never-ending bitcoin rally
[2016-11-27 04:09:14] QuantFocus : i, personally, do not like rekt
[2016-11-27 04:10:52] micmix : QuantFocus: I hope you pay him respect at least ;-)
[2016-11-27 05:01:13] laisee : U can count on Rekt
[2016-11-27 05:02:03] rms : so why do i have the bad feeling that bitcoin is going to crash?
[2016-11-27 05:02:36] rms : i think it would be a good feeling if i thought that meant that my ether longs would go up, so it's bad if bitcoin goes down and ether doesn't work as a hedge
[2016-11-27 05:03:13] laisee : Ms : why should ETH be a hedge?
[2016-11-27 05:04:11] rms : until this recent ether bear market, ether went up when bitcoin went down and vice versa
[2016-11-27 05:05:07] laisee : When people thought eth == btc with differebt dev teqm. Noe we know better
[2016-11-27 05:05:22] rms : ha
[2016-11-27 05:06:31] rms : do you think ether is done then?
[2016-11-27 05:13:13] numero : I wonder if zec will be a good hedge when it settles down and stops zcrashing
[2016-11-27 05:20:49] numero : I hear ETH is held together by vested interests and dreams
[2016-11-27 05:21:04] numero : and that it's gonna drag down everything built on it when it goes :(
[2016-11-27 06:00:21] laisee : Rms - its all code ansdcode can be fixed. Lets say eth in siftware terms is a moon shot, we can learn a lot even if it fails ?????
[2016-11-27 06:07:16] numero : huh, it all sounds ethereal to me :s
[2016-11-27 07:57:54] CapitalGains : When XBTZ16 is settled, will the next future be quarterly?
[2016-11-27 09:51:06] BitMEX_Arthur : CapitalGains: yes XBTH17 will list 2 weeks prior to the settlement of XBTZ16
[2016-11-27 09:54:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.012490
[2016-11-27 09:56:52] l3f : BitMEX_Arthur: How do you determine the initial price of XBTH17?
[2016-11-27 09:59:10] Boontjie : l3f: It should be equal to the XBTZ16?
[2016-11-27 10:00:30] BitMEX_Arthur : l3f: we don't the market does
[2016-11-27 10:01:00] BitMEX_Arthur : Boontjie: I would say it will not be equal due to time value and
[2016-11-27 10:02:00] Boontjie : BitMEX_Arthur: No, it is a bet on the future value of a commodity, how can you have 2 different bets?
[2016-11-27 10:02:23] Boontjie : At 30 December all values should be eqaul?
[2016-11-27 10:02:49] l3f : Boontjie: H17 ends at Jan 31
[2016-11-27 10:02:55] Boontjie : ah
[2016-11-27 10:02:55] l3f : well some other date
[2016-11-27 10:02:58] l3f : I forgot what H is
[2016-11-27 10:03:18] Boontjie : so it would be discounted x and a half months
[2016-11-27 10:03:29] CapitalGains : March
[2016-11-27 10:03:40] Boontjie : ok 3.5 so it would be different
[2016-11-27 10:04:02] Boontjie : I suppose you can infer on listing based on the current fair market rate of XBTZ16
[2016-11-27 10:06:33] CapitalGains : BitMEX_Arthur: Are you going to list another ZEC futures contract too?
[2016-11-27 10:06:36] Boontjie : BitMEX_Arthur: You guys will post an initial fair value price to get things started right?
[2016-11-27 10:24:19] Kalman : l3f: H = Jan?! wasn't it March?
[2016-11-27 10:25:23] Kalman : CapitalGains: +1
[2016-11-27 11:38:25] wurstgelee : 10:51 AM - BitMEX_Arthur: CapitalGains: yes XBTH17 will list 2 weeks prior to the settlement of XBTZ16
[2016-11-27 11:38:27] wurstgelee : \o/
[2016-11-27 11:48:20] wurstgelee : btc is alive
[2016-11-27 11:48:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.012290
[2016-11-27 11:49:13] wurstgelee : eth isnt
[2016-11-27 11:49:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-27 11:51:58] inconspic : what happens if I hold a short until settlement day?
[2016-11-27 11:52:10] inconspic : future contract
[2016-11-27 11:52:27] wurstgelee : it settles at mark price
[2016-11-27 11:52:31] wurstgelee : on that date
[2016-11-27 11:52:54] habibi : on index price
[2016-11-27 11:53:14] wurstgelee : mark price=index price at settlement
[2016-11-27 11:53:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-27 11:53:31] wurstgelee : but yes, on index price
[2016-11-27 11:53:57] inconspic : ok cool
[2016-11-27 11:54:28] inconspic : zec looks like it's going to break down any moment now
[2016-11-27 12:03:25] inconspic : there we go
[2016-11-27 12:05:07] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-27 12:05:10] wurstgelee : sub .1
[2016-11-27 12:07:52] huangyong : 88888
[2016-11-27 12:08:37] wurstgelee : 9
[2016-11-27 12:30:39] aethlios : liquidity much better, large bids to swap
[2016-11-27 12:30:46] thomaskikansha : zec to earth core
[2016-11-27 12:35:36] wurstgelee : yep. first spot buy set @ .087
[2016-11-27 12:35:37] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-27 12:36:14] wurstgelee : aethlios: getting there, yes
[2016-11-27 12:37:25] inconspic : is there any way to loose at a basis trade? with the exception of getting margin called?
[2016-11-27 12:37:32] inconspic : lose*
[2016-11-27 12:37:32] aethlios : premium cheap for 3m, okcoin has 11 usd which is a monthly 1.29% and finex rates are 0.1% daily, so 3% monthly.
[2016-11-27 12:37:46] wurstgelee : aethlios: i am long ;)
[2016-11-27 12:38:09] wurstgelee : its a good day for longing btc imo
[2016-11-27 12:38:34] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: long future or swap?
[2016-11-27 12:38:55] CapitalGains : I'm long BTC future, can't trust funding to behave on swap
[2016-11-27 12:39:27] aethlios : wurstgelee: keep the long until italian referendum 4 dec. could see volatility, rentsi possible loses and the go to elections.
[2016-11-27 12:39:27] golem : can not trust ? what reason ?
[2016-11-27 12:39:28] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: long swaps since 724 and z16 since 730 yesterday
[2016-11-27 12:39:45] wurstgelee : with a short interruption to sell and buy in lower again
[2016-11-27 12:40:15] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Nice, you got in quite a bit lower than me.
[2016-11-27 12:40:49] wurstgelee : got in too early without confirmation and mostly based on gut feeling as usual
[2016-11-27 12:41:04] wurstgelee : that art is to make it work more often than it doesnt :p
[2016-11-27 12:41:10] CapitalGains : golem: if swap is trading above spot, which it often is when BTC is bullish, longs sometimes have to pay serious funding
[2016-11-27 12:42:19] wurstgelee : we may now push for 5200
[2016-11-27 12:42:21] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-11-27 12:45:15] aethlios : we need spot above 780 to talk about break out, but then 1175 target with 99.99999% prob.
[2016-11-27 12:45:33] CapitalGains : aethlios: you think so?
[2016-11-27 12:45:52] aethlios : CapitalGains: ok maybe too optimistic, let's say 99.99%
[2016-11-27 12:46:03] CapitalGains : :)
[2016-11-27 12:49:14] aethlios : CapitalGains: https://www.tradingview.com/x/ITW9rb41/
[2016-11-27 12:49:40] aethlios : triangle ready to conclude. so it will happen 3rd time
[2016-11-27 12:50:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 16000 @ 732.12
[2016-11-27 12:51:40] aethlios : all eyes at next Sunday. italy.
[2016-11-27 12:52:38] CapitalGains : I love these charts, they give me goosebumps
[2016-11-27 12:52:55] AudibleScience : aethlios: why?
[2016-11-27 12:53:56] aethlios : AudibleScience: talians will vote in a referendum on December 4on whether to accept a package of constitutional reforms put forward by Matteo Renzi, the prime minister and leader of the centre-left Democratic Party. It is gearing up to be the next big populist threat to the political establishment after Brexit and the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States.
[2016-11-27 12:54:05] wurstgelee : 5200?
[2016-11-27 12:54:05] AudibleScience : nice!
[2016-11-27 12:54:18] wurstgelee : 5200!
[2016-11-27 12:54:31] thomaskikansha : 5200 nice
[2016-11-27 12:54:53] aethlios : if rentsi loses the refer. then elections will happen and opposition is in front to the polls and are anti-euro.
[2016-11-27 12:55:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2020 @ 733.42
[2016-11-27 12:55:43] wurstgelee : aethlios: which makes no sense, itialian economy is already fucked. they are kept alive by the euro
[2016-11-27 12:55:58] aethlios : and on early May is the french elections.
[2016-11-27 12:56:07] wurstgelee : france is gonna be interesting
[2016-11-27 12:56:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1585 @ 733.65
[2016-11-27 12:58:47] aethlios : wurstgelee: if italy stays in euro will have to haircut depositors and will become Greece, slow death because of deflation and recession. They are a manufacture economy, if leave euro now and make a 30% depreciation could have strong above 5% gdp increase and deflate their huge private and public debt.
[2016-11-27 13:01:34] AudibleScience : Abu Dhabi Grand Prix live now
[2016-11-27 13:04:01] AudibleScience : see you later, but thanks for the heads up. @aethlios
[2016-11-27 14:13:03] aethlios : zcrash supply 3x more on dec 30, so a 0.05 or lower price on dec. 30
[2016-11-27 14:13:27] arbitrage001 : aethlios: how big is your short?
[2016-11-27 14:14:47] aethlios : arbitrage001: don't trade zcash now, didn't short the pump also. better buy the bottoms now and wait for a pump to unload
[2016-11-27 14:15:51] CapitalGains : aethlios: I'm with you there. I feel much more comfortable going long and then closing, than going short with ZEC.
[2016-11-27 14:16:13] inconspic : CapitalGains: why is that? the trend has been down since day 1
[2016-11-27 14:17:02] CapitalGains : inconspic: Because ZEC has had outrageous pumps and the short squeezes on the futures go raucous
[2016-11-27 14:17:02] aethlios : new spot bottom 0.035 maybe a good buy for a rally to 0.07
[2016-11-27 14:17:09] aethlios : needs patience
[2016-11-27 14:17:24] CapitalGains : aethlios: Definitely sounds like a plan
[2016-11-27 14:17:28] wurstgelee : nope. wont go straight down to .035
[2016-11-27 14:17:32] wurstgelee : thats too low
[2016-11-27 14:17:36] arbitrage001 : i dont think it will hit 0.03 again
[2016-11-27 14:17:45] arbitrage001 : if it does, i am going to double my position
[2016-11-27 14:17:49] wurstgelee : same
[2016-11-27 14:17:51] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-27 14:17:55] wurstgelee : if not triple
[2016-11-27 14:17:57] wurstgelee : or more
[2016-11-27 14:18:00] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: you should probably triple
[2016-11-27 14:18:06] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-27 14:18:31] wurstgelee : i set a buy @ .087 spot
[2016-11-27 14:19:36] CapitalGains : ZEC has been the constant friend of the long, and the betrayer of the "safe" short
[2016-11-27 14:20:02] arbitrage001 : traders who short have no idea what they are doing
[2016-11-27 14:20:03] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-27 14:20:17] wurstgelee : shorting is just madness
[2016-11-27 14:20:24] wurstgelee : the reward is so small compared to the risk
[2016-11-27 14:20:38] wurstgelee : long is the opposite
[2016-11-27 14:20:50] habibi : wurstgelee: u can finally stop shilling ur pisition :D
[2016-11-27 14:20:54] habibi : position*
[2016-11-27 14:21:17] wurstgelee : habibi: i never stopped shilling. and i have been saying the very same for weeks. months now even ;)
[2016-11-27 14:21:27] aethlios : short was the best above 0.20, now we start going to catch the 100% pump.
[2016-11-27 14:21:42] wurstgelee : there were maybe 1 or 2 good short opportunities
[2016-11-27 14:21:59] wurstgelee : and even those were risky
[2016-11-27 14:22:05] CapitalGains : 10 BTC for example
[2016-11-27 14:22:11] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-27 14:22:11] aethlios : also future volatility will approach spot volatility as we approach dec. 30
[2016-11-27 14:22:56] wurstgelee : we are starting to have a "normal" spread here
[2016-11-27 14:23:03] wurstgelee : mm much?
[2016-11-27 14:23:07] wurstgelee : small ofc
[2016-11-27 14:30:03] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: yeah it's strange
[2016-11-27 14:30:23] Apocalyptic : seems like someone is buying everything below 0.08
[2016-11-27 14:31:22] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-27 14:32:40] wurstgelee : bouncing back up
[2016-11-27 14:32:48] wurstgelee : .104
[2016-11-27 14:32:49] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-27 14:33:14] Rado : I hope it's not trollboxer
[2016-11-27 14:33:20] Apocalyptic : lol
[2016-11-27 14:33:27] CapitalGains : Poor fella
[2016-11-27 14:33:30] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-27 14:33:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 101 @ 0.012430
[2016-11-27 14:34:07] wurstgelee : that came unexpected here
[2016-11-27 14:34:10] wurstgelee : at least for me
[2016-11-27 14:35:27] thomaskikansha : bids piling
[2016-11-27 14:38:08] arbitrage001 : trollboxer is new here?
[2016-11-27 14:38:35] inconspic : what did he do?
[2016-11-27 14:38:38] CapitalGains : arbitrage001: trollboxer apparently had his entire account liquidated from a ZEC short gone wrong.
[2016-11-27 14:38:51] arbitrage001 : CapitalGains: yeah
[2016-11-27 14:38:57] sleger : CapitalGains: we do not know that
[2016-11-27 14:38:57] arbitrage001 : just asking if he is new
[2016-11-27 14:39:09] sleger : how do you know "his entire account" ??
[2016-11-27 14:39:40] arbitrage001 : rare to see someone deposit that much btc to a platform he rarely knew
[2016-11-27 14:39:58] CapitalGains : sleger: Well cross margin is the default
[2016-11-27 14:40:12] sleger : CapitalGains: yes but that takes 3s to change
[2016-11-27 14:40:36] sleger : he built a 4k zec position, he clearly had time to change it. You just dont know that he lost his whole account
[2016-11-27 14:40:47] CapitalGains : You're right, I don't know
[2016-11-27 14:41:04] rapidtrades : sleger: tell me more about how it happened
[2016-11-27 14:41:22] sleger : he got liq for 4k+ zec thats all we know
[2016-11-27 14:42:15] rapidtrades : u seem to know more then the rest of us ;)
[2016-11-27 14:42:39] CapitalGains : sleger: Any idea how much margin it takes for that kind of position?
[2016-11-27 14:42:41] wurstgelee : no?
[2016-11-27 14:42:46] arbitrage001 : 200k btc can buy a nice condo here
[2016-11-27 14:42:52] arbitrage001 : 200 btc i mean
[2016-11-27 14:43:05] sleger : CapitalGains: i think maint margin is ~300btc
[2016-11-27 14:43:16] wurstgelee : might get a really cheap appartment for 200 btc here
[2016-11-27 14:43:21] arbitrage001 : 300 btc can buy a really really nice home
[2016-11-27 14:43:39] wurstgelee : small house a bit outside
[2016-11-27 14:43:54] wurstgelee : ~ 30 to 50 km maybe oO
[2016-11-27 14:44:02] rapidtrades : Malaysia or Indonesia ? @arbitrage001
[2016-11-27 14:44:14] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: malaysia capital city
[2016-11-27 14:44:28] arbitrage001 : even cheaper if rural area
[2016-11-27 14:44:34] arbitrage001 : man
[2016-11-27 14:44:37] arbitrage001 : 300 btc, i can retire
[2016-11-27 14:44:47] arbitrage001 : move to rural area
[2016-11-27 14:45:03] CapitalGains : i noticed today that BTC is trading at $800 on my local exchange (bitx, ZAR)
[2016-11-27 14:45:54] wurstgelee : ~ EUR 700
[2016-11-27 14:45:58] wurstgelee : at mine
[2016-11-27 14:46:11] rapidtrades : why would u want to retire in rural area?
[2016-11-27 14:46:32] arbitrage001 : cuz the air is nice, environment is cleaner
[2016-11-27 14:46:38] arbitrage001 : and people generally more polite
[2016-11-27 14:46:59] sleger : you will lose internet access though
[2016-11-27 14:46:59] rapidtrades : they also have shit for brains
[2016-11-27 14:47:19] arbitrage001 : sleger: will still have internet access, just much slower
[2016-11-27 14:47:41] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: they may not be knowledgeable, but they are not stupid
[2016-11-27 14:48:09] rapidtrades : contradicting yourself there ^
[2016-11-27 14:48:32] arbitrage001 : intelligence and knowledge are two entire different things
[2016-11-27 14:49:37] rapidtrades : there was 1 good deal on amazon uk and now thats gone too
[2016-11-27 14:49:50] rapidtrades : black friday is BS
[2016-11-27 14:50:00] wurstgelee : i think i am gonna short eth a bit here
[2016-11-27 14:51:26] rapidtrades : good to see zec discount staying down
[2016-11-27 14:51:37] rapidtrades : guess ppl slowly getting a clue
[2016-11-27 14:51:58] wurstgelee : we wont go to 3 tho ;)
[2016-11-27 14:52:23] Rado : yes we are
[2016-11-27 14:52:29] wurstgelee : maybe u should add 1 so ~ 1.5 would be sufficient
[2016-11-27 14:52:30] Rado : don't know when
[2016-11-27 14:52:45] wurstgelee : not until dec 30
[2016-11-27 14:53:27] rapidtrades : Rado: I don't know how
[2016-11-27 14:53:33] wurstgelee : that bounce back to .1 came early
[2016-11-27 14:54:20] Rado : anyone building applications on top of ZEC network?
[2016-11-27 14:54:42] wurstgelee : dunno, probably?
[2016-11-27 14:56:36] Rado : 1 BTC = 1000.357 US Dollar
[2016-11-27 14:56:48] Rado : on Unocoin (Indian exchange)
[2016-11-27 14:57:09] Rado : https://www.unocoin.com/trade?avg
[2016-11-27 14:57:51] wurstgelee : closed my longs
[2016-11-27 14:57:56] wurstgelee : few mins ago
[2016-11-27 14:58:08] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: you having doubts?
[2016-11-27 14:58:09] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: zec longs ?
[2016-11-27 14:58:16] wurstgelee : nope, xbt
[2016-11-27 14:58:24] wurstgelee : i wont close my zec longs
[2016-11-27 14:58:30] wurstgelee : i would maybe add ;)
[2016-11-27 14:58:40] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: shesss
[2016-11-27 14:58:48] arbitrage001 : let people short
[2016-11-27 14:58:56] arbitrage001 : give us more discount
[2016-11-27 14:58:59] wurstgelee : i am financially suicidal
[2016-11-27 14:59:00] wurstgelee : thats why
[2016-11-27 14:59:14] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Why are you closing your XBT longs? Foresee a dip?
[2016-11-27 14:59:49] wurstgelee : i am not seing not a dip
[2016-11-27 14:59:52] wurstgelee : thats more accurate
[2016-11-27 14:59:54] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-27 15:00:26] wurstgelee : *
[2016-11-27 15:00:27] wurstgelee : e
[2016-11-27 15:00:30] sleger : Rado: what you're looking at is not the price of bitcoin in usd its the price of bitcoin in fake rupee
[2016-11-27 15:00:46] sleger : look at how much gold trades in the street there, same distorsion
[2016-11-27 15:01:31] arbitrage001 : sleger: how high is the gold premium in india now?
[2016-11-27 15:01:38] sleger : same as btc
[2016-11-27 15:01:42] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: i use mostly hourly and 15m for 50x high lev. thats why
[2016-11-27 15:01:59] Rado : sleger: who cares if you can send BTC there and cash it out by a bank wire in USD
[2016-11-27 15:02:18] sleger : i dont think you can do that
[2016-11-27 15:02:19] Apocalyptic : Rado: that's the thing, you can't
[2016-11-27 15:02:39] Rado : you guys both researched teh withdraw options?
[2016-11-27 15:02:45] arbitrage001 : Rado: premium exists for a reason
[2016-11-27 15:02:51] sleger : otherwise they wouldnt buy bitcoin at 1000$ but somewhere else at 730
[2016-11-27 15:02:55] arbitrage001 : most likely one is capital control
[2016-11-27 15:03:15] wurstgelee : yeah. no arbing has a reason for sure
[2016-11-27 15:03:28] wurstgelee : its like goxbtc
[2016-11-27 15:03:29] Rado : Of course there is a reason
[2016-11-27 15:03:36] arbitrage001 : again, can't assume people are stupid
[2016-11-27 15:03:43] Rado : but I am sure there are Indian guys that have a way of profiting
[2016-11-27 15:04:04] sleger : those who sell fake gold at full price do
[2016-11-27 15:04:07] wurstgelee : like the mostly USD guys here? ;)
[2016-11-27 15:04:09] sleger : pure arb'
[2016-11-27 15:06:33] Rado : Why is a PAN card mandatory? As all transactions occur between bank accounts, it is a legal requirement for us to know the sender/ recipient within a transaction. To comply with KYC/ AML regulation and to protect users from illegal activities we are required to collect a copy of your PAN card. It uniquely identifies you as an individual or institution performing a particular transaction. When filling out your profile, please ensure your name should match the one on your PAN card.
[2016-11-27 15:07:47] rapidtrades : u should be able to withdraw USD? they prolly have some limit tho like China
[2016-11-27 15:07:53] habibi : looks like u like to answer ur own questions
[2016-11-27 15:08:25] rapidtrades : pay a village idiot for his 'PAM'
[2016-11-27 15:08:28] rapidtrades : problem solved
[2016-11-27 15:08:45] rapidtrades : if u get caught my police, pay them off too
[2016-11-27 15:09:53] Rado : You can withdraw INR using Withdraw INR page where you can enter the amount of INR you are willing to withdraw to your bank account.
[2016-11-27 15:10:20] Rado : you need an Indian citizen with a bank account basically
[2016-11-27 15:11:01] Rado : any Indian nationals here that can give us more info?
[2016-11-27 15:12:25] sleger : please i dont like the smell of curry
[2016-11-27 15:14:41] Rado : I love asian cuisines
[2016-11-27 15:15:28] rapidtrades : the only asian 'cuisine' that doesn't suck is japan
[2016-11-27 15:15:42] rapidtrades : rest is too spicy&weird
[2016-11-27 15:16:02] rapidtrades : THEY EAT DOGS OVER THERE
[2016-11-27 15:16:12] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: you should try fried grasshopper
[2016-11-27 15:16:20] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: dog is nice too
[2016-11-27 15:16:26] arbitrage001 : korean cusine
[2016-11-27 15:16:30] arbitrage001 : cat?
[2016-11-27 15:18:51] rapidtrades : look at the toys kids have these days https://www.amazon.com/Anki-000-00048-Cozmo/dp/B01GA1298S/
[2016-11-27 15:23:36] 111222 : 儿童热热
[2016-11-27 15:29:29] rapidtrades : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NEWNB8
[2016-11-27 15:41:53] Rado : rapidtrades: I am looking to buy a laptop for my wife
[2016-11-27 15:41:57] Rado : need something small
[2016-11-27 15:42:06] Rado : 11-12"
[2016-11-27 15:42:15] Rado : did you end up buying one?
[2016-11-27 15:42:20] sleger : dont worry she's used to 5"
[2016-11-27 15:42:26] Rado : lol
[2016-11-27 15:42:29] Rado : funny man
[2016-11-27 15:42:44] sleger : 11-12" you'll have to go black
[2016-11-27 15:43:01] sleger : get the macbook
[2016-11-27 15:43:17] Rado : I was telling her mac book air
[2016-11-27 15:43:26] Rado : she doesn't want to pay that much
[2016-11-27 15:43:31] sleger : 12" macbook might be better
[2016-11-27 15:43:41] Rado : let me check the price
[2016-11-27 15:44:04] sleger : you can find it refurb or on sale too since its not a new one
[2016-11-27 15:56:02] Paarss : test
[2016-11-27 15:58:46] Paarss : 100x leverage trade is very scary
[2016-11-27 15:59:44] habibi : Paarss: but possible profits! :)
[2016-11-27 16:00:03] Paarss : Yes!!
[2016-11-27 16:01:06] habibi : go long more on zcash please
[2016-11-27 16:02:47] Paarss : sorry, I won't
[2016-11-27 16:17:35] wurstgelee : @ .87
[2016-11-27 16:17:43] wurstgelee : .087
[2016-11-27 16:18:09] wurstgelee : or not. pulled it ;)
[2016-11-27 16:52:12] Rado : 0.03 coming sooner rather than later
[2016-11-27 16:52:17] Rado : ZEC
[2016-11-27 16:56:35] arbitrage001 : will surely double my position
[2016-11-27 16:56:37] arbitrage001 : at 0.03
[2016-11-27 16:56:55] arbitrage001 : double again at 0.01
[2016-11-27 16:59:52] Rado : the sell all at 0.001
[2016-11-27 16:59:58] rullwull : what would u do below 0.01?
[2016-11-27 17:02:19] habibi : counting on 300-400% increase from the bottom is silly imo wurstgelee:, u will need to double then triple or quadruple at least
[2016-11-27 17:11:50] mjones : Eth dumping
[2016-11-27 18:10:14] wurstgelee : î wish i had shorted more
[2016-11-27 18:10:27] wurstgelee : eth
[2016-11-27 18:18:29] mispiezas3@gmail.com : Hi short btc ¿ ?
[2016-11-27 18:32:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.011950
[2016-11-27 18:37:48] zanza : did ETH really spike to .011 2 days ago ?
[2016-11-27 18:38:47] zanza : apparently s
[2016-11-27 18:42:09] mjones : yeah
[2016-11-27 18:42:20] mjones : stops and margin calls got hit
[2016-11-27 18:56:23] mjones : xmr taking off
[2016-11-27 18:59:37] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-27 19:49:01] mjones : xmr here we go
[2016-11-27 19:53:53] wurstgelee : i dont understand that coin
[2016-11-27 19:54:15] wurstgelee : or stopped understanding it
[2016-11-27 19:55:28] mjones : someone really wants in and a few people hold most coins
[2016-11-27 19:56:49] wurstgelee : something is fishy there
[2016-11-27 19:56:54] wurstgelee : i dont touch it atm
[2016-11-27 19:57:31] wurstgelee : its almost like polo mm trying to play his own version of the woodchooper
[2016-11-27 19:58:27] wurstgelee : 1/3 of daily volume in two 5m candles
[2016-11-27 20:12:59] rapidtrades : what's going on fellas?
[2016-11-27 20:14:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2400 @ 0.001056
[2016-11-27 20:16:16] wurstgelee : waiting for btc's move up
[2016-11-27 20:17:58] rapidtrades : or down amirite?
[2016-11-27 20:18:12] aabtc : REEE
[2016-11-27 20:18:20] wurstgelee : aabtc: wb
[2016-11-27 20:18:50] aabtc : nothign just chilling and farming zerotrash
[2016-11-27 20:19:08] wurstgelee : youre the guy buying up sub .08 right?
[2016-11-27 20:19:24] wurstgelee : you are one of my suspects ;)
[2016-11-27 20:19:44] rapidtrades : wow discount now at 15% only
[2016-11-27 20:20:22] wurstgelee : also someone seems dedicated to putting up asks there
[2016-11-27 20:20:48] rapidtrades : prolly the same moron that got MC few days ago
[2016-11-27 20:20:58] wurstgelee : trollboxer is done here
[2016-11-27 20:21:02] wurstgelee : its not him
[2016-11-27 20:21:17] rapidtrades : what does 'he's done' mean?
[2016-11-27 20:21:24] rapidtrades : he's dead? caput?
[2016-11-27 20:21:34] wurstgelee : held some speech, wished farewell and left
[2016-11-27 20:21:45] rapidtrades : dam
[2016-11-27 20:21:54] rapidtrades : he'll be back
[2016-11-27 20:22:02] wurstgelee : maybe, but not so soon i guess
[2016-11-27 20:22:06] rapidtrades : if he held a speech he'll be back lol
[2016-11-27 20:22:20] rapidtrades : around what time did this transpire?
[2016-11-27 20:22:26] Tetsuo : 400BTC loss hurts a few days i guess
[2016-11-27 20:22:29] wurstgelee : the day of the rewards
[2016-11-27 20:22:43] imabeast : wurstgelee: that was me closing my short haha
[2016-11-27 20:22:43] wurstgelee : that evening iirc
[2016-11-27 20:22:45] wurstgelee : utc
[2016-11-27 20:22:51] wurstgelee : imabeast: haha :D
[2016-11-27 20:22:54] wurstgelee : k ;)
[2016-11-27 20:23:08] wurstgelee : still, someone likes to open some there
[2016-11-27 20:23:10] rapidtrades : Thursday?
[2016-11-27 20:23:18] imabeast : ya i may open long soon
[2016-11-27 20:23:30] wurstgelee : started @ .085
[2016-11-27 20:23:32] wurstgelee : small
[2016-11-27 20:24:09] wurstgelee : waiting for a decent dump now to ad more
[2016-11-27 20:24:11] wurstgelee : *add
[2016-11-27 20:26:53] rapidtrades : bitcoin can't stop, won't stop
[2016-11-27 20:49:00] habibi : wurstgelee: 18k coins will be released tomorrow?
[2016-11-27 20:51:28] jung1 : when we go long on eth?
[2016-11-27 20:51:31] jung1 : 0.008?
[2016-11-27 20:51:57] jung1 : habibi: gratz for winning trolbox award
[2016-11-27 20:51:58] mjones : eth ripp
[2016-11-27 20:52:01] habibi : jung1: when sleger says its not longer 1y invesment
[2016-11-27 20:52:03] jung1 : again?
[2016-11-27 20:52:36] jung1 : btw any german here?
[2016-11-27 20:58:23] Shaman : nein
[2016-11-27 21:01:39] sleger : kein
[2016-11-27 21:07:22] RoftheN : Nein
[2016-11-27 21:07:54] sleger : eth looks bullish
[2016-11-27 21:08:38] inconspic : sleger: lol
[2016-11-27 21:08:59] wurstgelee : nein, niemand
[2016-11-27 21:10:16] jung1 : https://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Cologne/events/232687726/
[2016-11-27 21:10:41] wurstgelee : cant make it, no time
[2016-11-27 21:11:01] jung1 : I will go there
[2016-11-27 21:12:51] wurstgelee : xmr .....
[2016-11-27 21:12:52] wurstgelee : fishy
[2016-11-27 21:18:28] jung1 : I think to short zec
[2016-11-27 21:19:31] wurstgelee : gl
[2016-11-27 21:21:01] wurstgelee : habibi: perfect.