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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-11-25 20:08:01] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-25 20:08:02] wurstgelee : fu sir
[2016-11-25 20:08:03] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-25 20:08:05] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-25 20:08:09] CaptainDean : it's random :P
[2016-11-25 20:08:14] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-11-25 20:08:17] QuantFocus : i must drink too much
[2016-11-25 20:08:29] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: or not enough
[2016-11-25 20:08:30] laisee : not random if ur name is 'ramdom'
[2016-11-25 20:08:36] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: lol
[2016-11-25 20:10:26] laisee : drunktrading,com
[2016-11-25 20:10:34] rms : i was supposed to win the good prize but didn't check my email in time
[2016-11-25 20:10:54] rms : i woke up and was like "wait, didn't i make more than the yacht club winner?" i guess my timing was weird
[2016-11-25 20:11:13] rms : i think they gave me 6 hours to confirm which didn't work for me
[2016-11-25 20:11:28] rms : longing zcash was the winning trade, FYI
[2016-11-25 20:12:01] wurstgelee : rms: ofc
[2016-11-25 20:12:05] QuantFocus : so trollboxer was the one to get rekt on that zec short?
[2016-11-25 20:12:07] QuantFocus : poor guy
[2016-11-25 20:12:11] wurstgelee : everyone up there longed zec
[2016-11-25 20:12:14] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 20:12:21] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: not sure
[2016-11-25 20:12:34] wurstgelee : theory is number 1 declined
[2016-11-25 20:12:36] QuantFocus : well they didn't specify, but that was certainly a large liquidation
[2016-11-25 20:12:40] wurstgelee : so he was maybe #2
[2016-11-25 20:12:42] QuantFocus : ahh
[2016-11-25 20:12:46] trollboxer : Invest the money in medical technology to save your loved ones. Don't spend your time staring at screens all day
[2016-11-25 20:13:00] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: he seemed happy about zec going up etc...
[2016-11-25 20:13:02] wurstgelee : doesnt fit
[2016-11-25 20:13:03] QuantFocus : probably not worth everyone know for 2btc
[2016-11-25 20:13:20] rms : of course not winning the prize was made up for by the profitable trade
[2016-11-25 20:13:24] wurstgelee : trollboxer: wb. and grats.
[2016-11-25 20:13:32] wurstgelee : even if its a prize for a loss ;)
[2016-11-25 20:13:33] rms : which was of course made up for by my equally unprofitable still open position on poloniex
[2016-11-25 20:13:40] habibi : trollboxer: hey, any comment on the contest u won?
[2016-11-25 20:13:59] QuantFocus : habibi: you won too buddy. congrats
[2016-11-25 20:14:02] QuantFocus : i think it was an inside job
[2016-11-25 20:14:36] habibi : QuantFocus: i was just lucky, real winners are other ones
[2016-11-25 20:15:19] trollboxer : That's my comment, trading vs other people is 0 sum, the winner doesn't have to do "real" work, and the loser has to go and be productive. The universe and the body is challenging enough that we should spend our energy fighting for the good of all men, not the good of one at the cost of another. When you think you're techically right about a thing, it doesn't mean you are "price" right.
[2016-11-25 20:16:11] trollboxer : In 10 years of trading, if you win lots, on the other side of all those trades is probably an unhappy customer. Better to find a way to make the same money and have a happy customer on the other side if you can.
[2016-11-25 20:17:08] wurstgelee : not sure if i get this, youre saying trading is bad?
[2016-11-25 20:18:50] rms : that it's better top make a life around positive sum games than to make a life around zero sum games
[2016-11-25 20:18:55] rms : *to make
[2016-11-25 20:19:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 9 @ 0.086745
[2016-11-25 20:19:14] wurstgelee : i love to do both
[2016-11-25 20:19:18] wurstgelee : simultaneously
[2016-11-25 20:19:29] habibi : trollboxer: could u tell me which vendor u used? u sounds like u took really nice lsd recently and still under effect
[2016-11-25 20:19:41] wurstgelee : oh, look, a rare species: a rekt $ZEC long
[2016-11-25 20:20:28] mispiezas3@gmail.com : hi i am short in btc. when starts black friday?
[2016-11-25 20:20:30] thomaskikansha : margin longers :(
[2016-11-25 20:20:51] trollboxer : The highest and best use any of us will have to our families or ourselves is to build the technology that will save their lives and ours. And it's a rising tide floats all ships game. The life you save may be your own. Until that day, happy trading : )
[2016-11-25 20:22:26] XBT_Saver : trollboxer: hey are you still there?
[2016-11-25 20:22:48] pause88 : trollboxer: hey what was your liquidation amount to win the 2 btc award?
[2016-11-25 20:23:05] trollboxer : If I had taken wurstgelee's money instead of him taking mine, I shouldn't have been too much happier with the outcome , for how did I make the world better by taking it. I'm saying I feel bad for trying to take your guys money. I'm glad you won, and hope you keep winning, and then transition into philanthropy, which happens to help your families.
[2016-11-25 20:23:32] trollboxer : I'm off to do those good works. Congrats to the winners!
[2016-11-25 20:23:56] laisee : we should solve cancer while waiting for ZEC to mooon?
[2016-11-25 20:24:34] pause88 : I'm just gonna guess 10 btc...
[2016-11-25 20:25:28] trollboxer : There is surely more money in helping your fellow man, than in the crypto markets. And even if there were not, you will one day yearn for the technology from a bed in a room with poor lighting, and lots of white robes. Better to fight the reaper while you can still stand!
[2016-11-25 20:25:52] trollboxer : Good bye good chaps!
[2016-11-25 20:26:06] laisee : trollboxer: that 10BTC loss must have hurt
[2016-11-25 20:26:17] XBT_Saver : trollboxer: what is your skype? think you should talk to someone I know.
[2016-11-25 20:26:17] rangle : have a good one
[2016-11-25 20:27:03] laisee : trollb must have bet the family savings and his NGO cash on ZEC
[2016-11-25 20:27:20] XBT_Saver : trollboxer: you seem to think in a similar way.
[2016-11-25 20:30:42] mjones : zec short was just a nice fellow giving out a generous donation
[2016-11-25 20:36:46] numero : I used to be idealistic, poverty is setting my priorities straight
[2016-11-25 20:37:11] numero : I would like to help others though, some day, if I have the means to do so
[2016-11-25 20:37:29] wurstgelee : i have to admit i am ok with wanting to take your money guys
[2016-11-25 20:37:30] wurstgelee : no offense
[2016-11-25 20:37:31] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 20:37:35] mjones : zec whale unloading days worth of mined coins
[2016-11-25 20:37:52] numero : wurstgelee: yeah, I'm getting there
[2016-11-25 20:38:16] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: I have to agree with you. Both sides of a contract are in it to take the other's money. It's fair.
[2016-11-25 20:38:21] wurstgelee : well, its a great game with a nice sideeffect
[2016-11-25 20:38:29] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-25 20:38:33] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-25 20:38:39] wurstgelee : noone is forced to pick a side
[2016-11-25 20:38:44] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Two equal and opposite side effects
[2016-11-25 20:38:52] wurstgelee : if u go in the ring, you go in the ring
[2016-11-25 20:39:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 42410 @ 0.001150
[2016-11-25 20:39:34] mjones : rekt
[2016-11-25 20:39:39] RocketScience : mega
[2016-11-25 20:39:43] Sasukeevil : ETC pumping
[2016-11-25 20:39:51] mjones : someone shorted ETC thinking it'll break 0.001 hard
[2016-11-25 20:40:04] RocketScience : Chandler Guo is laughing now
[2016-11-25 20:40:20] mjones : you know what to do guys. buy ETC and jack up the rekt wall
[2016-11-25 20:40:50] mjones : lol nice
[2016-11-25 20:41:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 2 @ 0.083822
[2016-11-25 20:41:41] imabeast : down goes zec
[2016-11-25 20:41:42] imabeast : :D
[2016-11-25 20:41:42] wurstgelee : zec dying here
[2016-11-25 20:41:49] mjones : settlement just happened too. how do you short so much etc
[2016-11-25 20:42:19] mjones : lol wtf etc orderbook
[2016-11-25 20:45:17] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-25 20:45:37] wurstgelee : inb4 vitalik announces eth is fucked beyond reason and that he is dev'ing etc now
[2016-11-25 20:46:22] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: I took a break from ZEC for a while, but it seems I should've kept up the long game (long from sub 0.04 ofc).
[2016-11-25 20:46:24] Sasukeevil : hey, why my etc long position was closed?
[2016-11-25 20:46:49] mjones : and why is there a 23k wall at 0.001184
[2016-11-25 20:46:54] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yes. a big yes :)
[2016-11-25 20:47:00] RocketScience : there was ADL
[2016-11-25 20:47:01] RocketScience : ?
[2016-11-25 20:47:12] wurstgelee : where?
[2016-11-25 20:47:17] wurstgelee : zec?
[2016-11-25 20:47:18] RocketScience : on etc
[2016-11-25 20:47:20] Tetsuo : ETC
[2016-11-25 20:47:29] RocketScience : red buywall became sellwall
[2016-11-25 20:47:33] wurstgelee : looks like it
[2016-11-25 20:47:38] rms : i tried to sell into the buywall
[2016-11-25 20:47:44] rms : and it disappeared the instant before i clicked sell
[2016-11-25 20:47:57] wurstgelee : shorting etc?
[2016-11-25 20:47:58] rms : someone match me plz?
[2016-11-25 20:48:11] wurstgelee : nope. i would short now tho
[2016-11-25 20:48:15] wurstgelee : *wouldnt
[2016-11-25 20:48:17] wurstgelee : not right now
[2016-11-25 20:48:31] rms : well then you can buy! and we can be zero summed together
[2016-11-25 20:48:32] Sasukeevil : so do I have to long etc again after my long position was auto closed? I'm new here
[2016-11-25 20:48:46] rms : it's less crazy cause i'm long eth so it's mostly a hedge, except when it isn't
[2016-11-25 20:48:55] wurstgelee : ah k :)
[2016-11-25 20:49:08] wurstgelee : also lol @ zerosummed together
[2016-11-25 20:49:11] RocketScience : i wish yo all happy trading!
[2016-11-25 20:49:26] rms : i'm definitely short etc in the long term but it's harder to do that on 7 day contracts
[2016-11-25 20:49:27] RocketScience : i am taking a trading vacation, because i got zero sum
[2016-11-25 20:49:43] CapitalGains : Sasukeevil: Yip, gotta open your position again
[2016-11-25 20:49:59] wurstgelee : RocketScience: i hope you recover soon
[2016-11-25 20:50:11] RocketScience : thank you
[2016-11-25 20:50:13] Sasukeevil : CapitalGains: ok but why was it auto closed?
[2016-11-25 20:50:41] RocketScience : i play with small money and huge leverage
[2016-11-25 20:50:49] RocketScience : i am a student haha :D
[2016-11-25 20:51:02] sleger : RocketScience: enjoy vacation
[2016-11-25 20:51:11] CapitalGains : Because there was a big liquidation and nobody was selling to the liquidation bid, and Bitmex closes highly profitable traders' positions into the bid, it's called ADL
[2016-11-25 20:51:26] RocketScience : it was nice trolling with you all
[2016-11-25 20:51:34] RocketScience : i'll come by sometimes
[2016-11-25 20:51:44] RocketScience : Goodbye
[2016-11-25 20:51:51] wurstgelee : RocketScience: cu :wave:
[2016-11-25 20:51:57] Sasukeevil : CapitalGains: oh...anyway, thanks!
[2016-11-25 20:51:58] wurstgelee : till then
[2016-11-25 20:52:24] RocketScience : :)
[2016-11-25 20:52:47] RocketScience : Time to party!
[2016-11-25 20:54:24] inconspic : so let me get this straight
[2016-11-25 20:54:38] inconspic : if I buy a zec future @ 0.08
[2016-11-25 20:54:57] inconspic : that means I'm betting on that on 30th of dec the price is above 0.08?
[2016-11-25 20:55:47] habibi : inconspic: price will settle at polo price @30 dec so yes, in the meanwhile price can go opposite way here and u have to keep enough margin to not get liquidated
[2016-11-25 20:55:58] imabeast : zec
[2016-11-25 20:56:00] imabeast : pump
[2016-11-25 20:56:39] habibi : contract will settle*
[2016-11-25 20:56:41] inconspic : habibi: ok, thx
[2016-11-25 21:04:06] imabeast : zec spot -> .08
[2016-11-25 21:05:30] Bacon futures trader : imabeast: Isn't spot at polo?
[2016-11-25 21:05:39] imabeast : yea
[2016-11-25 21:05:43] imabeast : its headed to .08
[2016-11-25 21:05:56] wurstgelee : bye bye zec...
[2016-11-25 21:06:38] wurstgelee : long u soon again :)
[2016-11-25 21:08:15] imabeast : i should buy those 42 contracts :D
[2016-11-25 21:08:23] rms : but the zec futures : spot ratio here was 50% for quite a while
[2016-11-25 21:08:24] numero : auf wiedersehen!
[2016-11-25 21:08:34] rms : in the recent pump the ratio went to 65% and has been there for a while now
[2016-11-25 21:08:48] imabeast : yep its catching up
[2016-11-25 21:08:54] rms : but it's arbitrary and i think the futures to spot ratio will diverge again as soon as zec starts to dump
[2016-11-25 21:08:59] rms : and will get closer as soon as zec starts to pump
[2016-11-25 21:14:24] rms : rather... the ratios won't change as soon as the pump or dump starts, but as they happen and start stabilizing the ratios will change
[2016-11-25 21:18:47] inconspic : lol zec is going to be brutal
[2016-11-25 21:21:20] inconspic : the liquidation price, is that on the contract price or the spot?
[2016-11-25 21:21:29] rms : contract
[2016-11-25 21:21:32] wurstgelee : mark price here
[2016-11-25 21:22:04] rms : definitely recommend cross margin here if you have btc positions open to give yourself more room on zcash
[2016-11-25 21:22:51] inconspic : ok, I have no other positions, I just wanted to short zcash
[2016-11-25 21:32:18] imabeast : down goes zec
[2016-11-25 21:33:00] wurstgelee : \o/
[2016-11-25 21:33:25] inconspic : imabeast: thing of beauty
[2016-11-25 21:33:50] wurstgelee : i am short as well but i dont feel to safe yet tbh
[2016-11-25 21:33:54] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-11-25 21:34:16] imabeast : think we drop to at least .1 on spot
[2016-11-25 21:34:24] imabeast : prob a baby bounce from there
[2016-11-25 21:34:34] wurstgelee : yeah me to. but part of me knows ZEc is a beast
[2016-11-25 21:34:38] wurstgelee : a real beast
[2016-11-25 21:34:45] inconspic : wurstgelee: a retarded beast
[2016-11-25 21:34:49] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-25 21:36:58] wurstgelee : tell that the 1000s of liquidated short here
[2016-11-25 21:36:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 21:40:03] zcashequalslambo : its shorting spree on zec
[2016-11-25 21:40:09] zcashequalslambo : i think bitmex people are panickers
[2016-11-25 21:40:46] inconspic : the best kind of adversaries
[2016-11-25 21:41:49] zcashequalslambo : zec is having long setup once again
[2016-11-25 21:44:19] wurstgelee : not yet
[2016-11-25 21:46:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 1060 @ 751.16
[2016-11-25 21:47:01] zcashequalslambo : what is this liquidation ^
[2016-11-25 21:47:14] zcashequalslambo : xbt is 734
[2016-11-25 21:47:14] Tetsuo : it´s a liquidation
[2016-11-25 21:47:21] zcashequalslambo : but why at this price
[2016-11-25 21:47:31] rms : someone was doing 100x leverage
[2016-11-25 21:47:32] Tetsuo : because z16 is tradin at this price
[2016-11-25 21:47:35] Apocalyptic : it's Z16
[2016-11-25 21:47:55] Tetsuo : because z16 is on it´s way to 1000$!!!! u fools
[2016-11-25 21:48:03] zcashequalslambo : oo
[2016-11-25 21:48:06] zcashequalslambo : o cool
[2016-11-25 21:48:13] Tetsuo : u heard it here first
[2016-11-25 21:51:46] zcashequalslambo : omg it was 0.12 today for zec
[2016-11-25 21:52:02] zcashequalslambo : i had shorts on 0.12 for zec but it didnt sell mines
[2016-11-25 21:52:08] inconspic : zcashequalslambo: :<
[2016-11-25 21:52:12] zcashequalslambo : omg im gonna sit a the corner and cry
[2016-11-25 21:52:32] inconspic : yeah, I saw that but I was at work and had no time to short it
[2016-11-25 21:53:13] zcashequalslambo : ill just price few cents lower this time
[2016-11-25 21:53:24] zcashequalslambo : 12999
[2016-11-25 21:55:08] micmix : habibi: grats on winning the contest!
[2016-11-25 21:55:36] habibi : micmix: pure luck but thanks ;)
[2016-11-25 21:56:06] sleger : pure luck... not so sure, it was a troll contest after all
[2016-11-25 21:57:01] micmix : and grats CaptainDean on winning my personal contest, you got your 0.5 btc by now ;-)
[2016-11-25 22:00:43] micmix : ok, so it was trollboxer with a big ZEC short. that was brutal :-(
[2016-11-25 22:03:00] sleger : some troll (the winner troll actually) is not convinced of that
[2016-11-25 22:04:06] micmix : I think ZEC was the biggest liquidation. I can check REKT logs to be sure
[2016-11-25 22:11:00] CaptainDean : micmix: Hats off to you ! Men of your words !!! thanks
[2016-11-25 22:12:13] micmix : yes, zec short 4360 @ 0.068073 was the largest (297 BTC), second largest was XBTUSD long 84739 @ 730.78 (116 BTC)
[2016-11-25 22:12:27] micmix : CaptainDean: enjoy ;-)
[2016-11-25 22:12:57] sleger : micmix: habibi thinks maybe largest liq didnt agree to being published so trollboxer is #2
[2016-11-25 22:13:12] micmix : ah ok, that's possible
[2016-11-25 22:13:18] habibi : lol
[2016-11-25 22:14:24] wurstgelee : i am glad i can switch stances from short to long and back without any hesitation :p
[2016-11-25 22:14:40] micmix : in that case trollboxer might be in green thanks to 2 btc prize if that XBTUSD long was 100x. I'm too lazy to do the actual math
[2016-11-25 22:15:24] wurstgelee : micmix: @CaptainDean what was it?
[2016-11-25 22:15:39] wurstgelee : on dec 6th?
[2016-11-25 22:15:41] Tetsuo : sci-fi book
[2016-11-25 22:15:45] Tetsuo : babylon ashes something
[2016-11-25 22:15:47] wurstgelee : ahh k
[2016-11-25 22:15:53] wurstgelee : thanks
[2016-11-25 22:15:57] wurstgelee : now i can finally sleep
[2016-11-25 22:16:20] micmix : yep, the next book in The Expanse series. best sci-fi I read this decade
[2016-11-25 22:16:56] micmix : there is a tv show as well for people who don't read
[2016-11-25 22:17:02] inconspic : micmix: the expanse is really good
[2016-11-25 22:17:12] wurstgelee : i used to read but then i started hacking numbers into my computer to buy and sell other numbers
[2016-11-25 22:17:12] inconspic : read the books and seen the series :)
[2016-11-25 22:17:29] micmix : inconspic: :+1:
[2016-11-25 22:17:37] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: story of my life
[2016-11-25 22:17:38] wurstgelee : wb zec? ;)
[2016-11-25 22:17:52] wurstgelee : maybe
[2016-11-25 22:19:52] Tetsuo : micmix is smart , he has bots so he can trade and read!!!!!
[2016-11-25 22:20:01] wurstgelee : buying some spot zec here...
[2016-11-25 22:20:08] micmix : Tetsuo: lol
[2016-11-25 22:21:51] wurstgelee : or not
[2016-11-25 22:21:54] wurstgelee : i'll wait
[2016-11-25 22:23:09] rangle : lol, 935 BTC buy wall on ETH at polo
[2016-11-25 22:23:14] Tetsuo : cheap z16 won´t last forever
[2016-11-25 22:23:55] wurstgelee : good decision :p
[2016-11-25 22:26:28] mjones : being sold into on polo eth
[2016-11-25 22:26:47] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: thanks for reminding me, i should start to build a longer term z16 position
[2016-11-25 22:26:56] wurstgelee : (longer term for me is 1 week+)
[2016-11-25 22:27:23] Tetsuo : mjones: vitalik closin his shorts?
[2016-11-25 22:28:55] sleger : wall is being eaten at
[2016-11-25 22:29:08] rangle : yeah, fun to watch
[2016-11-25 22:33:46] zanza : thinking of going all in short ZEC
[2016-11-25 22:35:03] mjones : people risking eth long on here thinking wall will hold
[2016-11-25 22:36:20] habibi : people risking eth short on here thinking wall will fall/disappear
[2016-11-25 22:38:00] martinium : china devalued all week expecting big move in BTC soon
[2016-11-25 22:41:05] wurstgelee : zanza: suicidal tendencies?
[2016-11-25 22:41:07] aabtc : wow etc looking good for an entry
[2016-11-25 22:41:37] wurstgelee : aabtc: yeah ofc
[2016-11-25 22:41:38] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-25 22:41:44] mjones : rofl aabtc is in here
[2016-11-25 22:41:48] wurstgelee : nice try tho
[2016-11-25 22:42:14] wurstgelee : how ibig is that hidden ask of yours?
[2016-11-25 22:42:19] wurstgelee : *-
[2016-11-25 22:42:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 22:42:40] aabtc : oh im not buying etc here just zec
[2016-11-25 22:42:47] aabtc : ill buy etc on polo
[2016-11-25 22:43:04] mjones : which side are you on for zec? long or short
[2016-11-25 22:43:10] wurstgelee : long
[2016-11-25 22:43:17] wurstgelee : noone with a sane mind goes short
[2016-11-25 22:43:18] aabtc : the zec discount here is ridiculous compared to spot
[2016-11-25 22:43:19] sleger : if eth goes down then btc will have to go up
[2016-11-25 22:43:28] mjones : i must follow the chicken
[2016-11-25 22:43:28] sleger : wurstgelee: werent you short few hours ago ?
[2016-11-25 22:43:41] wurstgelee : sleger: yeah, and it felt awful
[2016-11-25 22:43:53] sleger : wall destroyed
[2016-11-25 22:43:57] wurstgelee : that drop was too obvious to not take it tho
[2016-11-25 22:44:15] wurstgelee : worst 30 mins in zec so far
[2016-11-25 22:44:52] aabtc : https://twitter.com/ActualAdviceBTC/status/802279001184030720
[2016-11-25 22:45:04] aabtc : yeah this was an easy one imo. easy to tell when ur wrong and have to bail too
[2016-11-25 22:45:42] michiel_kaas : Guys do you know wtf is up with all those waiting transactions...
[2016-11-25 22:45:47] michiel_kaas : ...
[2016-11-25 22:46:01] wurstgelee : aabtc: thats kinda hard here to bail with a reasonable position
[2016-11-25 22:46:04] wurstgelee : thin order books
[2016-11-25 22:46:10] sleger : cheap people not paying good fees
[2016-11-25 22:46:23] michiel_kaas : What is a good fee then?
[2016-11-25 22:46:28] michiel_kaas : How much dollars
[2016-11-25 22:46:50] sleger : you know whats cool ? a billion dollars
[2016-11-25 22:47:02] wurstgelee : too heavy to carry
[2016-11-25 22:47:02] michiel_kaas : ?
[2016-11-25 22:47:11] michiel_kaas : So what is a fee?
[2016-11-25 22:47:13] aabtc : wurstgelee: oh ill probably do size in etc
[2016-11-25 22:47:13] habibi : michiel_kaas: all my tx are going within next 1-2 blocks with fee from 12 to 17 cents
[2016-11-25 22:47:23] aabtc : zec so volatile i dont need to buy very much to make it worth my time
[2016-11-25 22:47:34] wurstgelee : aabtc: oh etc, i thought u were talking about zec
[2016-11-25 22:47:37] michiel_kaas : I did a 1 dollar fee and after 24 hours still not confirmed
[2016-11-25 22:47:48] wurstgelee : nvm
[2016-11-25 22:47:51] wurstgelee : baked
[2016-11-25 22:47:51] habibi : michiel_kaas: show tx
[2016-11-25 22:47:54] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-25 22:48:04] michiel_kaas : tx?
[2016-11-25 22:48:06] habibi : txid
[2016-11-25 22:48:08] wurstgelee : texas
[2016-11-25 22:48:15] michiel_kaas : uuhm
[2016-11-25 22:48:17] michiel_kaas : wait
[2016-11-25 22:48:21] sharp : chaep zec
[2016-11-25 22:49:32] michiel_kaas : https://blockchain.info/address/1KycA5nAi3FxgZa8K1SCcS6ojK8GZxPdvA
[2016-11-25 22:49:42] michiel_kaas : That is the address is sent it from
[2016-11-25 22:50:33] sleger : just use cash for $30
[2016-11-25 22:50:40] michiel_kaas : I selled my bitcoins to a legal company where is also buy my coins
[2016-11-25 22:51:11] rapidtrades : $1 fee?
[2016-11-25 22:51:12] michiel_kaas : So why is it not confirmed?
[2016-11-25 22:51:14] habibi : michiel_kaas: nvm, this is quite big transaction, u should use some wallet that has auto adjust fee
[2016-11-25 22:51:50] michiel_kaas : I know my wallet said 7 dollars but that is bullshit
[2016-11-25 22:52:04] rapidtrades : well u sent 245 transactions?
[2016-11-25 22:52:12] michiel_kaas : ?
[2016-11-25 22:52:29] michiel_kaas : I got 245
[2016-11-25 22:52:55] michiel_kaas : or send 10
[2016-11-25 22:52:57] rapidtrades : if u got em why are u paying the fee
[2016-11-25 22:53:05] michiel_kaas : ?
[2016-11-25 22:53:28] wurstgelee : that conversation makes my head hurt
[2016-11-25 22:53:47] michiel_kaas : So is now like my money gone?
[2016-11-25 22:53:47] habibi : michiel_kaas: ur tx is basically ~75 times bigger than my usual, and kinda 5 times bigger than typical tx from bitmex multisig addys
[2016-11-25 22:54:10] michiel_kaas : I don't get whu it is not confirmed
[2016-11-25 22:54:13] rapidtrades : should've paid $7
[2016-11-25 22:54:15] rapidtrades : cheapo
[2016-11-25 22:54:21] michiel_kaas : no
[2016-11-25 22:54:22] michiel_kaas : wtf
[2016-11-25 22:54:35] michiel_kaas : more than 10% paying for payment -,-
[2016-11-25 22:54:37] michiel_kaas : uhu
[2016-11-25 22:54:57] wurstgelee : your tx pays not enough money to miners (=fees). there are a lot of transaction waiting to be included in a mined block atm
[2016-11-25 22:55:00] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: google "michiel" ->look at the first 2 pics, that should explain a lot
[2016-11-25 22:55:03] wurstgelee : you will have to wait a wahile
[2016-11-25 22:55:35] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: lolz
[2016-11-25 22:55:38] habibi : michiel_kaas: it was 16 kb tx, in 1 mb block its 1.6% of block space
[2016-11-25 22:55:40] rapidtrades : idk why is he sending 245 transactions
[2016-11-25 22:55:51] michiel_kaas : Tetsuo: That is not me funny men
[2016-11-25 22:55:56] rapidtrades : 16kb? mine are 50-80 bytes
[2016-11-25 22:55:57] Tetsuo : sure
[2016-11-25 22:56:01] michiel_kaas : DUDE I MINE BITCOINS IDIOT
[2016-11-25 22:56:10] sleger : michiel_kaas: you mine
[2016-11-25 22:56:14] sleger : or I your
[2016-11-25 22:56:17] wurstgelee : hahahahahaha
[2016-11-25 22:56:27] wurstgelee : come on guys, u staged this
[2016-11-25 22:56:28] michiel_kaas : Why don't you get why I got more then 200 transactions
[2016-11-25 22:56:28] rapidtrades : should've pair $3-$4
[2016-11-25 22:56:33] wurstgelee : its hilarious
[2016-11-25 22:56:40] habibi : michiel_kaas: then don't do auto withdraws from pool on such tiny amount, gather more and then withdraw from time to time to avoid that inputs family
[2016-11-25 22:56:48] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-11-25 22:57:13] michiel_kaas : What is so bad about those transactions then
[2016-11-25 22:57:17] michiel_kaas : more then 245?
[2016-11-25 22:57:21] sleger : just wait for it
[2016-11-25 22:57:24] sleger : wait for it
[2016-11-25 22:57:29] sleger : wait for it ...
[2016-11-25 22:57:29] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: what do you do with 200 transaction, u should have received a lot of fees for that
[2016-11-25 22:57:32] wurstgelee : *G*
[2016-11-25 22:57:35] rapidtrades : each transaction costs 0.08-0.18 cents
[2016-11-25 22:57:41] Tetsuo : so he made lots of dollars
[2016-11-25 22:57:54] Tetsuo : fuckin 1%er
[2016-11-25 22:58:03] sleger : Tetsuo: please stop, he mine
[2016-11-25 22:58:07] sleger : just like Adriana
[2016-11-25 22:58:13] sleger : sorry dude
[2016-11-25 22:58:16] michiel_kaas : Can someone explain this shit good...
[2016-11-25 22:58:17] Tetsuo : sleger: uo u is greedy man
[2016-11-25 22:58:24] rapidtrades : michiel_kaas: just wait
[2016-11-25 22:58:29] michiel_kaas : I'm not the biggest bitcoin insider
[2016-11-25 22:58:35] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: u send u pay u receive u pay less
[2016-11-25 22:58:37] wurstgelee : michiel_kaas: u bsaically wanted to write a letter. but instead of doing that, u decided to use a different piece of paper for every word and put them in sperate envelopes
[2016-11-25 22:58:38] sleger : michiel_kaas: but you mine
[2016-11-25 22:58:48] wurstgelee : envelopes cost money
[2016-11-25 22:58:51] wurstgelee : got it now?
[2016-11-25 22:58:59] CaptainDean : michiel_kaas: transaction are priorize by fees, so your fees is lower then the avg, you wait longer
[2016-11-25 22:58:59] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: lol brilliant explanation
[2016-11-25 22:59:12] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: do u have large pickaxe?
[2016-11-25 22:59:13] wurstgelee : keep it simple :)
[2016-11-25 22:59:19] rapidtrades : CaptainDean: did u get ur 2 btc buddy?
[2016-11-25 22:59:22] michiel_kaas : So I now just need to wait about how long?
[2016-11-25 22:59:27] rapidtrades : sry 0.5 btc
[2016-11-25 22:59:30] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: 3-4days
[2016-11-25 22:59:34] michiel_kaas : Oooh
[2016-11-25 22:59:36] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: Yes
[2016-11-25 22:59:53] michiel_kaas : But one more thing why did I sent everything in a other "letter"
[2016-11-25 22:59:59] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: micmix men of his words !
[2016-11-25 23:00:06] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: grats btw :)
[2016-11-25 23:00:10] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: e-mail to expensive?
[2016-11-25 23:00:12] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: thanks !
[2016-11-25 23:00:18] michiel_kaas : Tetsuo: Haha
[2016-11-25 23:00:41] CaptainDean : michiel_kaas: you bitcoin from an Address A to and address B
[2016-11-25 23:00:48] CaptainDean : an**
[2016-11-25 23:00:50] Tetsuo : CaptainDean: that´s just stupid
[2016-11-25 23:00:55] michiel_kaas : wurstgelee: Why did that happend then?
[2016-11-25 23:01:02] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: he´s trollin you
[2016-11-25 23:01:06] Tetsuo : he not mine
[2016-11-25 23:01:15] michiel_kaas : trollbox be like
[2016-11-25 23:01:17] sleger : nobody yours
[2016-11-25 23:01:23] wurstgelee : whis?
[2016-11-25 23:01:30] Tetsuo : i don´t like this sleger guy
[2016-11-25 23:01:41] rapidtrades : michiel_kaas: we already told u why, u have too many transactions for that $1 fee
[2016-11-25 23:01:45] sleger : still sour i see
[2016-11-25 23:01:52] michiel_kaas : Hmm
[2016-11-25 23:02:07] sleger : michiel_kaas: just did the math for you it should be here in about 0.7453 years
[2016-11-25 23:02:17] sleger : *approximately
[2016-11-25 23:02:20] rapidtrades : market rate for 1 transaction now is 0.1-0.2 cents
[2016-11-25 23:02:21] michiel_kaas : seriously...
[2016-11-25 23:02:23] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: u need a new account with less than 20 tx and u cas still earn interest and send for free
[2016-11-25 23:02:33] Tetsuo : fukkin cheese wanker
[2016-11-25 23:02:38] habibi : light year to be exact
[2016-11-25 23:02:48] michiel_kaas : ooh I get why my other transaction went faster
[2016-11-25 23:02:52] sleger : michiel_kaas: or since you mine, you can mine your own transaction
[2016-11-25 23:03:00] rapidtrades : i meant 10-20 cents
[2016-11-25 23:03:02] Tetsuo : sleger: that´s pretty smart
[2016-11-25 23:03:04] michiel_kaas : Hmm
[2016-11-25 23:03:05] wurstgelee : yeah, great idea
[2016-11-25 23:03:25] sleger : i just did the math should only take you 12.435 years to mine a block
[2016-11-25 23:03:30] wurstgelee : simply mine a few blocks so your tx gets included
[2016-11-25 23:03:35] sleger : + or - 15k years
[2016-11-25 23:03:47] wurstgelee : *at current diff
[2016-11-25 23:03:48] CaptainDean : Tetsuo: I only saw one transaction, my bad
[2016-11-25 23:03:48] Tetsuo : waht do u use to mine
[2016-11-25 23:04:03] wurstgelee : which cloud?
[2016-11-25 23:04:03] sleger : he has 15 raspberry pi
[2016-11-25 23:04:11] rapidtrades : michiel_kaas: what is the actual transaction ur waiting on?
[2016-11-25 23:04:19] Tetsuo : probably zcloud mining
[2016-11-25 23:04:32] michiel_kaas : This one
[2016-11-25 23:04:34] Tetsuo : invest 30% get back 5000% within a year
[2016-11-25 23:04:41] michiel_kaas : https://blockchain.info/tx/6577ee428be56de19d8c3bf60945520b62235dc6e90a75a0db83b5ba5c9c26f2
[2016-11-25 23:04:48] michiel_kaas : I'm screwd
[2016-11-25 23:04:59] Tetsuo : why is it unconfirmed?
[2016-11-25 23:05:08] sleger : that happened mostly at birth though @michiel_kaas
[2016-11-25 23:05:16] habibi : michiel_kaas: u should tweet Roger Verysmart with ur story, he will make it main argument to Increeease bloocks
[2016-11-25 23:05:24] rapidtrades : michiel_kaas: Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)
[2016-11-25 23:05:27] rapidtrades : just wait
[2016-11-25 23:05:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 1742 @ 753.19
[2016-11-25 23:05:38] michiel_kaas : And can't you guys like confirm my transaction
[2016-11-25 23:05:40] rapidtrades : i don't get why it's 16000 bytes?
[2016-11-25 23:05:50] sleger : michiel_kaas: hold on let me check
[2016-11-25 23:05:56] michiel_kaas : Aight
[2016-11-25 23:05:58] wurstgelee : habibi: lolz
[2016-11-25 23:06:15] michiel_kaas : Guys can't you guys confirm it with me?
[2016-11-25 23:06:23] CaptainDean : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/6577ee428be56de19d8c3bf60945520b62235dc6e90a75a0db83b5ba5c9c26f2
[2016-11-25 23:06:28] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: in the meanwhile BTC is goin up and u will probably pay more fees if it doesn´t arrive soon, so u better mine quick
[2016-11-25 23:06:28] sleger : michiel_kaas: yes i can help. If you send me 0.1 btc i can speed up your tx, next 3 blocks
[2016-11-25 23:06:37] habibi : rapidtrades: coz every time he mine a penny on pool, pool is sending it to his addy coz of auto withdraws with little limit, now to send all these inputs script need to be pretty large and covered in block
[2016-11-25 23:07:00] michiel_kaas : Tetsuo: ?
[2016-11-25 23:07:05] rapidtrades : look at that transaction stupid, it's 1 input 1 output @habibi
[2016-11-25 23:07:17] CaptainDean : I see 111 Inputs
[2016-11-25 23:07:26] habibi : rapidtrades: https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/6577ee428be56de19d8c3bf60945520b62235dc6e90a75a0db83b5ba5c9c26f2?show_adv=true take a look
[2016-11-25 23:07:32] CaptainDean : probably 1 transaction per block
[2016-11-25 23:08:15] habibi : michiel_kaas: u can try either with replace by fee or child pay parents if u control destination addy private key
[2016-11-25 23:08:21] CaptainDean : habibi: I don't why my blockchain has shown as only 1 input. i see 11 on blocktrail
[2016-11-25 23:08:30] habibi : blockchain :D
[2016-11-25 23:08:33] CaptainDean : 111*
[2016-11-25 23:08:35] habibi : blockchain.info power*
[2016-11-25 23:08:40] rapidtrades : he already paid $1 fee....just wait dude
[2016-11-25 23:08:50] michiel_kaas : Okay we need a conclusion
[2016-11-25 23:08:57] michiel_kaas : When does it arrive?
[2016-11-25 23:09:04] rapidtrades : Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)
[2016-11-25 23:09:13] michiel_kaas : That was like 6 years ago dude
[2016-11-25 23:09:16] Tetsuo : 1 Block = 1 day due to block limit
[2016-11-25 23:09:21] rapidtrades : just wait
[2016-11-25 23:09:24] michiel_kaas : hmmmmm
[2016-11-25 23:09:28] michiel_kaas : So over 6 days max?
[2016-11-25 23:09:31] habibi : michiel_kaas: did u tweeted Roger already? he needs ur story
[2016-11-25 23:09:32] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-11-25 23:09:43] michiel_kaas : You can use it if you wan;t
[2016-11-25 23:09:50] michiel_kaas : :)
[2016-11-25 23:09:57] habibi : i can't believe there are miners that know nothing about bitcoin
[2016-11-25 23:09:59] michiel_kaas : Is this like rare or something?
[2016-11-25 23:10:11] michiel_kaas : Cloudmining :/
[2016-11-25 23:10:13] michiel_kaas : I know
[2016-11-25 23:10:26] habibi : cloudsScamming u mean
[2016-11-25 23:10:31] michiel_kaas : yup
[2016-11-25 23:10:32] Tetsuo : "rich soon" attracts strange kind of people
[2016-11-25 23:10:32] CaptainDean : cloudmining is pure scam. just buy bitcoin
[2016-11-25 23:10:38] rapidtrades : i don't understand why are they charging him $1 fees.....
[2016-11-25 23:10:52] michiel_kaas : rapidtrades: What do you mean?
[2016-11-25 23:10:54] sleger : they have a bunch of dummy clients
[2016-11-25 23:11:00] sleger : so they take everywhere they can
[2016-11-25 23:11:28] rapidtrades : market rate is 0.10-0.20
[2016-11-25 23:11:36] habibi : michiel_kaas: u can invest into my cloud scam, but i will sent u instantly all the results that u will get in actual over months, for every 1000$ i will send back 350
[2016-11-25 23:12:09] michiel_kaas : But higher transactions need higher fees right?
[2016-11-25 23:12:31] michiel_kaas : bigger*
[2016-11-25 23:12:52] sleger : lol
[2016-11-25 23:12:59] sleger : bigger in what sense dummy ?
[2016-11-25 23:13:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 135 @ 0.012580
[2016-11-25 23:13:35] michiel_kaas : ...
[2016-11-25 23:13:39] rapidtrades : i don;t understand why it says 16000 bytes? are they pushing the entire size of the transaction on him...
[2016-11-25 23:14:03] michiel_kaas : Guys is my transaction like rare or something?
[2016-11-25 23:14:16] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: u are special
[2016-11-25 23:14:18] sleger : yes its rare to find dummy like you
[2016-11-25 23:14:40] michiel_kaas : sleger: Haha
[2016-11-25 23:14:45] michiel_kaas : sleger: How old are you?
[2016-11-25 23:15:01] sleger : michiel_kaas: 34, you ?
[2016-11-25 23:15:02] Tetsuo : sleger: he´s flirtin with you
[2016-11-25 23:15:11] sleger : Tetsuo: he mine
[2016-11-25 23:15:19] michiel_kaas : sleger: Old enough to talk normal to others
[2016-11-25 23:15:23] michiel_kaas : ...
[2016-11-25 23:15:41] rapidtrades : so bitmex transactions are 3k and he got stuck with 16k size
[2016-11-25 23:15:49] rapidtrades : how's that possible for
[2016-11-25 23:15:51] michiel_kaas : So my transaction will be here over 6 days and it is rare to find something like this?
[2016-11-25 23:15:53] Tetsuo : wtf is rapid talkin about?
[2016-11-25 23:15:53] sleger : he's a tool
[2016-11-25 23:16:19] Tetsuo : michiel_kaas: could be 4 if ur lucky
[2016-11-25 23:16:27] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: withdrawals from bitmex are 3k bytes in size and they use multisig
[2016-11-25 23:16:40] michiel_kaas : So why is the transaction so "rare"