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[2016-11-25 16:37:47] haxmb : nope not me
[2016-11-25 16:37:47] wurstgelee : hmmm
[2016-11-25 16:37:53] haxmb : impostor :O
[2016-11-25 16:37:57] wurstgelee : but hax is haxor?
[2016-11-25 16:38:01] haxmb : ya
[2016-11-25 16:38:11] wurstgelee : fuck. i KNOW i read that somewhere
[2016-11-25 16:38:14] haxmb : haxx0r hax0ring
[2016-11-25 16:38:14] haxmb : haha
[2016-11-25 16:38:16] wurstgelee : no clue where :)
[2016-11-25 16:38:26] wurstgelee : bitcointalk?
[2016-11-25 16:38:32] haxmb : yup
[2016-11-25 16:38:36] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-25 16:38:40] wurstgelee : probably there
[2016-11-25 16:38:49] rapidtrades : guys any good bitcoin deals?
[2016-11-25 16:38:54] rapidtrades : cmon only few hrs left
[2016-11-25 16:39:05] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u can buy cash with them
[2016-11-25 16:39:08] wurstgelee : cash is always good
[2016-11-25 16:39:44] Rado : 300 BTC is a lot
[2016-11-25 16:39:49] Rado : I hope he has a lot more than that
[2016-11-25 16:39:57] wurstgelee : also wtf is ZEC doing. it shouldn't just sit there
[2016-11-25 16:40:00] arbitrage001 : Rado: he doesnt seem upset at all
[2016-11-25 16:40:12] Rado : is he still here?
[2016-11-25 16:40:13] wurstgelee : not that i have a position......but maybe i want one oO
[2016-11-25 16:40:24] wurstgelee : he was here after the loss
[2016-11-25 16:40:32] rapidtrades : did he QQ?
[2016-11-25 16:40:39] wurstgelee : even joked around iirc
[2016-11-25 16:40:40] arbitrage001 : arguiing on turing complete
[2016-11-25 16:40:47] arbitrage001 : which no one here really care
[2016-11-25 16:41:34] wurstgelee : i once had some "touring" edition car which completely broke down
[2016-11-25 16:41:41] wurstgelee : is that something similar?
[2016-11-25 16:43:23] haxmb : lawl
[2016-11-25 17:02:14] wurstgelee : i keep thinking my ZEc chart is frozen
[2016-11-25 17:02:17] wurstgelee : ZEC
[2016-11-25 17:11:50] zcashequalslambo : wtf
[2016-11-25 17:12:02] zcashequalslambo : zec on bitmex is really undervalued
[2016-11-25 17:12:07] zcashequalslambo : meanwhile on polo new highs
[2016-11-25 17:13:02] RocketScience : Someone built a turing machine in dwarf fortress
[2016-11-25 17:13:02] wurstgelee : buying zec spot
[2016-11-25 17:13:06] RocketScience : take that eth :P
[2016-11-25 17:13:10] RocketScience : http://boingboing.net/2010/04/15/colossal-turing-mach.html
[2016-11-25 17:13:56] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: maybe that has to do with the new digest
[2016-11-25 17:14:09] arbitrage001 : expected price of zcash on dec30th
[2016-11-25 17:14:12] arbitrage001 : 0.02
[2016-11-25 17:14:20] zcashequalslambo : XD
[2016-11-25 17:14:23] zcashequalslambo : you meant 0.2
[2016-11-25 17:14:29] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: yeah, he expects a price slightly above founders award
[2016-11-25 17:14:30] wurstgelee : no way
[2016-11-25 17:14:31] zcashequalslambo : btc is crashing
[2016-11-25 17:14:34] wurstgelee : that assumption is wrong
[2016-11-25 17:14:40] zcashequalslambo : zec has to go up
[2016-11-25 17:17:03] wurstgelee : i posted an order 5k sats above the 2nd bid, its hardly getting filled...
[2016-11-25 17:17:44] wurstgelee : 7(!) zec so far of ~ 25 total
[2016-11-25 17:17:50] wurstgelee : in a few minutes
[2016-11-25 17:18:12] arbitrage001 : you are buying real zec?
[2016-11-25 17:18:29] arbitrage001 : here is cheaper
[2016-11-25 17:19:23] wurstgelee : i expect a spike @ polo into which i want to sell
[2016-11-25 17:19:31] wurstgelee : this wouldnt work here
[2016-11-25 17:19:55] wurstgelee : i am not convinced .1 is a good buy
[2016-11-25 17:20:05] wurstgelee : i wont touch it here atm
[2016-11-25 17:20:38] wurstgelee : also i can get rid of zec faster at polo
[2016-11-25 17:20:52] wurstgelee : dumping here is almost impossible or at least uncertain if u have more than a few contracts
[2016-11-25 17:21:04] arbitrage001 : yeah
[2016-11-25 17:21:07] wurstgelee : it is possible...but expensive :)
[2016-11-25 17:21:09] arbitrage001 : liquidity is an issue here
[2016-11-25 17:21:18] wurstgelee : yep.
[2016-11-25 17:21:20] arbitrage001 : unless you have someone getting adl
[2016-11-25 17:21:28] wurstgelee : f*ck. 10 zec filled
[2016-11-25 17:21:31] zcashequalslambo : its goint to spike on polo
[2016-11-25 17:21:31] wurstgelee : and already going up
[2016-11-25 17:21:38] zcashequalslambo : but here
[2016-11-25 17:21:53] zcashequalslambo : weird things happen
[2016-11-25 17:21:54] arbitrage001 : i expect people to short here wont end well
[2016-11-25 17:22:11] zcashequalslambo : well its their stupidity
[2016-11-25 17:22:18] zcashequalslambo : coz they will try to sell at a loss on dec
[2016-11-25 17:22:23] zcashequalslambo : their shorts
[2016-11-25 17:22:38] zcashequalslambo : so oyu just buy at 50% and excercise
[2016-11-25 17:22:49] arbitrage001 : no more huge discount lol
[2016-11-25 17:23:00] arbitrage001 : need a dumb counterparty
[2016-11-25 17:23:01] wurstgelee : i wont short zec here
[2016-11-25 17:23:04] arbitrage001 : to have that kind of discount
[2016-11-25 17:23:07] wurstgelee : the risk is way too much
[2016-11-25 17:23:19] wurstgelee : 1x margin can get liquidation easily
[2016-11-25 17:23:28] wurstgelee : and cross is waaaay too risky
[2016-11-25 17:23:56] arbitrage001 : obviously many disagree
[2016-11-25 17:24:02] wurstgelee : even if i think it might be a good short term position sometimes....
[2016-11-25 17:24:04] wurstgelee : not doing it
[2016-11-25 17:24:38] wurstgelee : shorters paid me a lot, i dont want to give it back 8)
[2016-11-25 17:24:45] arbitrage001 : hah
[2016-11-25 17:24:52] arbitrage001 : suprise, isnt it?
[2016-11-25 17:24:58] arbitrage001 : they keep giving you money
[2016-11-25 17:25:05] arbitrage001 : twice in 2 weeks?
[2016-11-25 17:25:17] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: most of those who have disagreed until today got fuckefd by ZEC i assume
[2016-11-25 17:25:17] arbitrage001 : or 3 weeks?
[2016-11-25 17:25:24] wurstgelee : some made good money by shorting from .3
[2016-11-25 17:25:28] wurstgelee : but lots of butthurt too
[2016-11-25 17:25:45] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: launch day was pay day
[2016-11-25 17:25:48] zcashequalslambo : i shorted from 0.33
[2016-11-25 17:25:51] wurstgelee : 2nd was yesterday
[2016-11-25 17:25:54] zcashequalslambo : closed at 0.12
[2016-11-25 17:26:04] wurstgelee : and 3 smaller ADL events pre launch iirc
[2016-11-25 17:26:36] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: yeo, the only good short move until now @ ZEC
[2016-11-25 17:27:05] zcashequalslambo : but then i got owned by monero
[2016-11-25 17:27:10] zcashequalslambo : i fucking dont get that coin
[2016-11-25 17:27:59] wurstgelee : monero fckd me yesterday
[2016-11-25 17:28:04] wurstgelee : -2.2 or sth
[2016-11-25 17:28:21] wurstgelee : did maybe cost me may yacht club ;)
[2016-11-25 17:28:25] wurstgelee : *my
[2016-11-25 17:30:09] zcashequalslambo : yeah
[2016-11-25 17:30:19] zcashequalslambo : well it did to me today coz 7d contracts only
[2016-11-25 17:38:32] sleger : good job @trollboxer
[2016-11-25 17:45:46] wurstgelee : aaand i ditched my spot zec
[2016-11-25 17:45:50] wurstgelee : not looking too good
[2016-11-25 17:47:05] wurstgelee : sleger: that rage dumper
[2016-11-25 17:47:27] wurstgelee : well, maybe it wasnt rage, he probably was convinced of what he was doing
[2016-11-25 17:47:49] sleger : he didnt sound like a baller in the trollbox
[2016-11-25 17:48:11] wurstgelee : nope, not at all
[2016-11-25 17:48:21] wurstgelee : also he didnt seem very upset after the mc
[2016-11-25 17:48:32] wurstgelee : even joking around
[2016-11-25 17:48:34] habibi : i don't think trollboxer is no 1
[2016-11-25 17:48:59] wurstgelee : habibi: its written in the email
[2016-11-25 17:49:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 17:49:12] wurstgelee : habibi: the one that decalred you the lucky winner
[2016-11-25 17:49:16] wurstgelee : in case u didnt know
[2016-11-25 17:49:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 17:49:19] wurstgelee : grats btw
[2016-11-25 17:49:21] wurstgelee : !
[2016-11-25 17:49:49] habibi : wurstgelee: but whats written doesn't connect him with actual zec liq
[2016-11-25 17:50:01] wurstgelee : habibi: this can only be that liquidation
[2016-11-25 17:50:11] wurstgelee : it was 4300+ contracts
[2016-11-25 17:50:25] wurstgelee : there is no way there was a bigger liq
[2016-11-25 17:50:31] habibi : imo no 1 simply don't want to show his real nickname so he refused to be official no 1
[2016-11-25 17:50:41] wurstgelee : hmmm
[2016-11-25 17:50:47] wurstgelee : ill ask him
[2016-11-25 17:50:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 17:52:33] habibi : wurstgelee: in other words would u expect from guy that recently lost 100s of bitcoins on shorting zec comments like this "trollboxer : Zec go to the moon!"
[2016-11-25 17:53:01] wurstgelee : yes. if i had lost 300, that would mean i own thousands..
[2016-11-25 17:53:09] wurstgelee : otherwise i would never have done that
[2016-11-25 17:53:23] arbitrage001 : at leaast 3000
[2016-11-25 17:53:27] wurstgelee : so yes, i would want to be the one that lost 100s today
[2016-11-25 17:53:27] arbitrage001 : to gamble like that
[2016-11-25 17:53:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 17:53:51] habibi : wurstgelee: another good comment "trollboxer : I don't thikn anyone should ever short on here, ever, because you can long 10 places, but only short here, so it gets oversold"
[2016-11-25 17:54:03] wurstgelee : hmmm
[2016-11-25 17:54:04] arbitrage001 : ragedump implies emotion immature
[2016-11-25 17:54:08] wurstgelee : k, thats interesting
[2016-11-25 17:54:29] wurstgelee : that doesnt fit to shorting down to .036
[2016-11-25 17:54:33] arbitrage001 : not fit to be trader
[2016-11-25 17:54:40] habibi : trollboxer : who's going to win the biggest liquidation?" buhahaha
[2016-11-25 17:54:46] wurstgelee : sleger, you're baack in play :p
[2016-11-25 17:54:49] wurstgelee : *-a
[2016-11-25 17:55:12] arbitrage001 : people still shorting when price barely move
[2016-11-25 17:55:23] arbitrage001 : there is going to be another round of rekt
[2016-11-25 17:55:30] wurstgelee : might be closing longs
[2016-11-25 17:55:33] habibi : wurstgelee: trollboxer : Did the giant zec liquidation happen during the contest period?
[2016-11-25 17:55:40] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-25 17:55:49] wurstgelee : oh
[2016-11-25 17:55:50] wurstgelee : a quote
[2016-11-25 17:55:51] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-25 17:55:53] habibi : yep
[2016-11-25 17:56:02] wurstgelee : yeah. baked much
[2016-11-25 17:56:11] wurstgelee : celebrating ZEC
[2016-11-25 17:56:13] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 17:56:16] arbitrage001 : habibi: you sound like a psychology
[2016-11-25 17:56:55] wurstgelee : zec chart isnt looking too great atm
[2016-11-25 17:56:56] arbitrage001 : that is your trade in rl?
[2016-11-25 17:57:03] wurstgelee : really not
[2016-11-25 17:59:15] elmorte : Someone really get rekted for triple BTC digits?
[2016-11-25 17:59:59] arbitrage001 : elmorte: yes
[2016-11-25 18:00:12] arbitrage001 : people here guessing 300 btc loss
[2016-11-25 18:00:14] elmorte : fckin a...who was it mate?
[2016-11-25 18:00:22] sleger : trollboxer
[2016-11-25 18:00:30] habibi : personally i really think it was the s guy, but we will never know ;)
[2016-11-25 18:00:33] sleger : habibi won the troll contest though, no surprise there
[2016-11-25 18:00:40] arbitrage001 : wish i won
[2016-11-25 18:00:41] elmorte : really? he a miner?
[2016-11-25 18:00:55] arbitrage001 : why is habibi winning no suprise?
[2016-11-25 18:01:12] arbitrage001 : i am a good troll also lol
[2016-11-25 18:01:27] wurstgelee : fck me
[2016-11-25 18:01:29] wurstgelee : i shorted
[2016-11-25 18:02:34] elmorte : ...your mom for change?
[2016-11-25 18:02:45] wurstgelee : nope, yours
[2016-11-25 18:03:53] elmorte : she felt bad charging you for that anyway
[2016-11-25 18:04:05] wurstgelee : she should. it was really, really bad
[2016-11-25 18:04:11] wurstgelee : she should pay me
[2016-11-25 18:06:13] elmorte : That's strange, why did you asked for 12 seconds more?
[2016-11-25 18:07:57] wurstgelee : that wasn't me. maybe ask your brother?
[2016-11-25 18:08:54] elmorte : can't. Your mom's sitting on his face
[2016-11-25 18:08:59] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-11-25 18:09:02] wurstgelee : n1
[2016-11-25 18:09:06] wurstgelee : that came unexpected :)
[2016-11-25 18:12:49] elmorte : \
[2016-11-25 18:13:40] elmorte : I guess that's not how you escape a character
[2016-11-25 18:14:02] wurstgelee : probably not
[2016-11-25 18:14:04] elmorte : \`code`
[2016-11-25 18:14:17] elmorte : `code`
[2016-11-25 18:14:28] elmorte : I was wrong...
[2016-11-25 18:15:05] wurstgelee : zec -> toilet
[2016-11-25 18:15:46] elmorte : [2016-11-25 06:29:00] wurstgelee : zec looking good. good support, will go higher
[2016-11-25 18:16:06] elmorte : Nothing personal, just came across it reading the archive...
[2016-11-25 18:16:15] wurstgelee : elmorte: i closed all my longs since then
[2016-11-25 18:16:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 18:16:30] wurstgelee : and i went short a few minutes ago
[2016-11-25 18:16:31] elmorte : I figured as much, good move
[2016-11-25 18:16:54] elmorte : fck that...that's gamble central
[2016-11-25 18:17:31] elmorte : what economics even influence the price in theory for that asset??
[2016-11-25 18:18:08] wurstgelee : zec?
[2016-11-25 18:18:14] elmorte : yup
[2016-11-25 18:18:21] wurstgelee : supply and demand, as always
[2016-11-25 18:18:39] wurstgelee : supply is defined and incfresing fast. demand cant go up because theres no reason besides fomo
[2016-11-25 18:18:44] wurstgelee : so....
[2016-11-25 18:19:05] wurstgelee : my bet is supply will overwhelm demand now and panic dumps will do the rest
[2016-11-25 18:19:11] elmorte : Very convincing
[2016-11-25 18:19:28] wurstgelee : *cant go up forever
[2016-11-25 18:19:31] wurstgelee : i can go up ofc
[2016-11-25 18:19:36] wurstgelee : fomo always dies
[2016-11-25 18:19:39] wurstgelee : sooner or later
[2016-11-25 18:20:00] wurstgelee : and chart looking a lot weaker. maybe a blowoff spike (i think)
[2016-11-25 18:20:11] elmorte : oh, there's actual volume there now...
[2016-11-25 18:20:14] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-25 18:20:42] wurstgelee : its actually tradable
[2016-11-25 18:20:49] elmorte : That discount means a lotta ppl feel the same way
[2016-11-25 18:21:03] wurstgelee : if it bounces up, it will bounce now....
[2016-11-25 18:21:27] elmorte : Damnit, I'm outta cash
[2016-11-25 18:21:44] wurstgelee : sub .13 and byebye
[2016-11-25 18:21:49] wurstgelee : or i am horribly wrong :)
[2016-11-25 18:22:41] elmorte : XBTZ16 got peed on pretty much...
[2016-11-25 18:22:42] wurstgelee : oh, and also whales cant hold the price up forever. supply is just too much. this is expensive
[2016-11-25 18:23:16] wurstgelee : its not like an ico where every whale already has a big share from the start....
[2016-11-25 18:23:16] elmorte : what's the zcash supply algo? I know the jist, just not specifics
[2016-11-25 18:23:21] wurstgelee : they had to buy @ market ;)
[2016-11-25 18:23:27] wurstgelee : same as btc
[2016-11-25 18:23:33] wurstgelee : but it starts with 34 days of slow mining
[2016-11-25 18:23:43] elmorte : not exponential?
[2016-11-25 18:23:48] wurstgelee : where reward increases linear to full block reward
[2016-11-25 18:23:54] wurstgelee : of 12.5/2.5 mins
[2016-11-25 18:23:58] elmorte : aha, linear increase
[2016-11-25 18:24:01] wurstgelee : so 50/10
[2016-11-25 18:24:02] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-25 18:24:11] wurstgelee : almost full reward now
[2016-11-25 18:39:40] wurstgelee : up or die for zec there
[2016-11-25 18:42:28] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/DJThistle01/status/802220483324166145
[2016-11-25 18:44:58] zcashequalslambo : loool
[2016-11-25 18:45:04] zcashequalslambo : do you see poloniex orders
[2016-11-25 18:45:18] zcashequalslambo : 27 btc to 0.14
[2016-11-25 18:45:23] zcashequalslambo : 50 btc to 0.13
[2016-11-25 18:45:58] zcashequalslambo : its going to hit 0.16 today
[2016-11-25 18:48:26] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: maybe. its a 2x leveraged gamble ;)
[2016-11-25 18:49:19] zcashequalslambo : it wont go under 0.132
[2016-11-25 18:49:27] wurstgelee : it was a min ago
[2016-11-25 18:49:35] wurstgelee : .1311 or something
[2016-11-25 18:50:20] wurstgelee : at least something with .131
[2016-11-25 18:50:23] zcashequalslambo : what
[2016-11-25 18:50:27] wurstgelee : polo
[2016-11-25 18:50:27] zcashequalslambo : maybe on localbitcoins
[2016-11-25 18:50:31] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-25 18:50:36] wurstgelee : i checked in trade history ffs
[2016-11-25 18:50:44] wurstgelee : .1317something
[2016-11-25 18:50:46] zcashequalslambo : show me
[2016-11-25 18:50:50] wurstgelee : maybe lower
[2016-11-25 18:50:57] wurstgelee : didnt want to load "100 more"
[2016-11-25 18:51:00] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 18:51:17] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: check yourself
[2016-11-25 18:51:23] zcashequalslambo : ok checked
[2016-11-25 18:51:28] zcashequalslambo : there is nothing like that
[2016-11-25 18:51:32] zcashequalslambo : end of story
[2016-11-25 18:51:32] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-25 18:51:48] zcashequalslambo : dont panic, you can still close your shorts
[2016-11-25 18:51:52] wurstgelee : 0.13183552 0.13905448 0.01833232 34.48807729
[2016-11-25 18:51:55] wurstgelee : fuck u sir
[2016-11-25 18:52:27] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: i know how this game works, i have been long on zec ever since it launched until now
[2016-11-25 18:53:26] zcashequalslambo : 0.14184552 0.14325568 0.039342 34.432807729
[2016-11-25 18:53:33] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: 0.13116678 0.02455700 0.00322106
[2016-11-25 18:53:43] zcashequalslambo : at least give the tiem
[2016-11-25 18:53:44] wurstgelee : .1311 ...
[2016-11-25 18:53:46] zcashequalslambo : give the time
[2016-11-25 18:55:34] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: http://imgur.com/a/XfYSk
[2016-11-25 18:55:36] wurstgelee : thats all u get
[2016-11-25 18:56:09] wurstgelee : hahahahaahahahahahahaa
[2016-11-25 18:56:13] wurstgelee : fuck
[2016-11-25 18:56:47] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: sorry, i might or might not be very baked and might or might not have mixed up order and sell book. 8)
[2016-11-25 18:57:19] wurstgelee : anyways, if it doesnt bounce here, its going down
[2016-11-25 18:57:30] zcashequalslambo : its not trade history xDDDD
[2016-11-25 18:57:39] wurstgelee : yeah, that as well
[2016-11-25 18:57:40] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-25 18:57:49] wurstgelee : omfg
[2016-11-25 19:09:19] rapidtrades : this is stupid
[2016-11-25 19:09:38] rapidtrades : bitcoin forgot how to fall
[2016-11-25 19:11:49] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: yeah i'm impress with the fact it is not going down hard
[2016-11-25 19:12:18] thiago : theres no reason to fall lol
[2016-11-25 19:14:19] rapidtrades : shut up thiago lol
[2016-11-25 19:15:45] thiago : its hanging by the pussy
[2016-11-25 19:16:24] wurstgelee : its consolidating
[2016-11-25 19:16:52] wurstgelee : could be a lot more sideways
[2016-11-25 19:17:46] CaptainDean : well it's been a while I saw so much consolidation ... it should fall like really hard
[2016-11-25 19:17:50] wurstgelee : and that "wall" at polo gets dumped into
[2016-11-25 19:18:11] wurstgelee : really not looking good for zec. and i am not saying that because i am short
[2016-11-25 19:18:46] numero : I was born in zcrash
[2016-11-25 19:18:50] zcashequalslambo : i was thinking that last drop
[2016-11-25 19:18:54] numero : I wonder what that makes my life expectancy?
[2016-11-25 19:18:59] numero : any bets?
[2016-11-25 19:19:00] zcashequalslambo : but then it went for another high afterwards
[2016-11-25 19:19:01] zcashequalslambo : so
[2016-11-25 19:19:12] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-11-25 19:19:16] zcashequalslambo : it still will go up
[2016-11-25 19:19:55] wurstgelee : sometimes, sure. next move? not so much
[2016-11-25 19:20:06] zcashequalslambo : it was over 0.14 then dropped to 0.12
[2016-11-25 19:20:24] zcashequalslambo : it will drop to 0.132 and go to 0.15 this time
[2016-11-25 19:20:26] wurstgelee : yes, and?
[2016-11-25 19:20:51] zcashequalslambo : even macd histogram shows uptrend
[2016-11-25 19:21:03] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: as i said earlier: it has to bounce here or it will go down
[2016-11-25 19:21:11] wurstgelee : that hasnt changed
[2016-11-25 19:21:29] wurstgelee : .130
[2016-11-25 19:21:41] zcashequalslambo : something triggered
[2016-11-25 19:21:42] zcashequalslambo : lets see
[2016-11-25 19:22:17] wurstgelee : and now it gets interesting....
[2016-11-25 19:23:04] zcashequalslambo : ok big spread
[2016-11-25 19:23:18] wurstgelee : there is constant miner pressure
[2016-11-25 19:23:20] zcashequalslambo : big spread went for bull side
[2016-11-25 19:23:28] zcashequalslambo : always is
[2016-11-25 19:23:38] wurstgelee : u also said it wont break .132....
[2016-11-25 19:23:59] wurstgelee : about to go below .13
[2016-11-25 19:24:38] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: wheres your bullish spread now?
[2016-11-25 19:25:06] wurstgelee : < .13
[2016-11-25 19:25:40] wurstgelee : .128 ....
[2016-11-25 19:26:03] zcashequalslambo : ok looks like time to short
[2016-11-25 19:26:09] wurstgelee : oh rly? 8)
[2016-11-25 19:26:29] wurstgelee : .126 ...
[2016-11-25 19:27:28] wurstgelee : .125
[2016-11-25 19:27:42] numero : zcashequalslambo: hey, could you ask trollboxer if he got liqed on zecz16 yesterday for 4 k contracts?
[2016-11-25 19:28:10] wurstgelee : well, a long squeeze for a change :)
[2016-11-25 19:29:14] mjones : someone pushing zec down on here.
[2016-11-25 19:29:16] wurstgelee : buy support getting pulled
[2016-11-25 19:29:18] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-25 19:29:21] CaptainDean : numero: it has to be him like the contest said, there is no way we had a bigger liquidation
[2016-11-25 19:29:27] wurstgelee : buy support getting pulled, seels filling up
[2016-11-25 19:29:32] wurstgelee : *sells
[2016-11-25 19:29:51] mjones : longs should be margin called soon
[2016-11-25 19:30:09] wurstgelee : mjones: u short 2?
[2016-11-25 19:30:26] numero : CaptainDean: the announcement was unclear though, it just says trollboxer was the winner . . . but if the real winner declined to have his name announced, we wouldn't know
[2016-11-25 19:30:37] mjones : yeah short
[2016-11-25 19:30:48] Tetsuo : zcashequalDid Bitmex announce the winners? Any famous trollboxer among them?
[2016-11-25 19:30:57] numero : CaptainDean: could you ask trollboxer?
[2016-11-25 19:31:04] CaptainDean : numero: I was sure they had to acccept the fact of having their name public to win it
[2016-11-25 19:31:14] CaptainDean : numero: i don't know him personnaly
[2016-11-25 19:31:40] numero : Tetsuo: Tetsuo! you'll know! did trollboxer get liqed on 4 k contracts?
[2016-11-25 19:31:51] Tetsuo : no i didn´t
[2016-11-25 19:32:02] Tetsuo : ho else won something
[2016-11-25 19:32:13] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: habibi won the lucky challenge
[2016-11-25 19:32:44] Tetsuo : i´m satisfied, i´m glad that not some noob who only appeared to win the prize would get this
[2016-11-25 19:32:56] wurstgelee : yeah, me 2
[2016-11-25 19:32:56] sleger : yes but habibi
[2016-11-25 19:33:01] Tetsuo : true
[2016-11-25 19:33:04] wurstgelee : its good that a regular won
[2016-11-25 19:33:15] sleger : rapid deserved it more
[2016-11-25 19:33:16] habibi : sleger: i really think u should be the one to win 2 btc prize of biggest liq
[2016-11-25 19:34:08] numero : do you know how many students I would have had to find to pool their tuition money to shoot the moon?
[2016-11-25 19:34:15] numero : good thing we didn't try
[2016-11-25 19:35:16] sleger : did trollboxer reappear since he got hit hard ?
[2016-11-25 19:35:31] sleger : guy didnt sound smart, history proved me right again
[2016-11-25 19:35:36] habibi : sleger: it's funny u are the only one that is 100% that was trollboxer :)
[2016-11-25 19:35:41] habibi : with zec liq
[2016-11-25 19:35:46] habibi : sure*
[2016-11-25 19:35:53] sleger : how could it be someone else ?
[2016-11-25 19:35:57] wurstgelee : quick trollbox poll: who thinks .125 will hold @ ZEC? ;)
[2016-11-25 19:36:01] numero : maybe trollboxer could come and clear this up for us :)
[2016-11-25 19:36:24] sleger : trollboxer wont the biggest liq price that is in the email
[2016-11-25 19:36:28] habibi : sleger: simply someone else could not agree to show his nickname in results ? look at chat archive, trollboxer was happy when we were going up on zec
[2016-11-25 19:36:45] sleger : then bitmex should have disclaimed that
[2016-11-25 19:36:53] sleger : the prize went to the 2nd biggest liq
[2016-11-25 19:37:05] sleger : because first refused to be publicized
[2016-11-25 19:37:12] wurstgelee : well, that would enable us to check how much he lost
[2016-11-25 19:37:17] wurstgelee : if he was 2nd biggest
[2016-11-25 19:37:18] numero : yeah, maybe BitMEX should clear this up
[2016-11-25 19:37:24] habibi : they its still uncovering part of privacy
[2016-11-25 19:37:26] habibi : then*
[2016-11-25 19:37:35] wurstgelee : its more private this way and im ok with not showing it because its a loss
[2016-11-25 19:37:35] numero : not really
[2016-11-25 19:37:38] sleger : not really
[2016-11-25 19:38:14] rangle : speculators speculating on a prize for speculators
[2016-11-25 19:38:31] sleger : we are not speculating on the prize dummy we know its 2 btc
[2016-11-25 19:38:48] wurstgelee : we are speculating on what others think the price is
[2016-11-25 19:38:50] wurstgelee : because we now
[2016-11-25 19:38:52] laisee : there should be an instrument for going long/short traders
[2016-11-25 19:38:54] thomaskikansha : buyer showing up on polo
[2016-11-25 19:38:57] wurstgelee : '*know
[2016-11-25 19:39:32] wurstgelee : k, closed my short with a profit
[2016-11-25 19:39:34] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-25 19:40:20] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: u shorted ZEC?
[2016-11-25 19:40:28] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-11-25 19:40:30] wurstgelee : 1st time
[2016-11-25 19:40:36] wurstgelee : looked shitty
[2016-11-25 19:40:51] rapidtrades : hope u lost money traitor
[2016-11-25 19:40:55] wurstgelee : but closed early
[2016-11-25 19:41:17] wurstgelee : if this goas up a tad again, sells get pulled and i am fckd
[2016-11-25 19:41:25] wurstgelee : no risking that
[2016-11-25 19:42:27] thomaskikansha : dip was bought
[2016-11-25 19:47:03] zcashequalslambo : its still falling
[2016-11-25 19:47:21] numero : this is how I picture my little stint in cryptoland going: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCCXq9QB-dQ
[2016-11-25 19:47:27] numero : ^ that's me running
[2016-11-25 19:49:22] habibi : numero: u got liquidated @47 sec and still running :/
[2016-11-25 19:51:10] numero : habibi: I trade small positions :)
[2016-11-25 19:51:12] imabeast : Whos long?
[2016-11-25 19:51:33] zcashequalslambo : long on what
[2016-11-25 19:51:37] numero : I go cross at the end though
[2016-11-25 19:51:45] imabeast : zec..
[2016-11-25 19:52:46] wurstgelee : 1 digit number of contracts
[2016-11-25 19:55:18] wurstgelee : 2 digit number of contracts :p
[2016-11-25 19:55:49] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: what's your zec position?
[2016-11-25 19:55:55] wurstgelee : long now
[2016-11-25 19:56:06] CapitalGains : hrm
[2016-11-25 19:56:25] CapitalGains : I'm thinking to short for the first time in weeks
[2016-11-25 19:56:33] wurstgelee : i switched from short to long ~ 30 mins ago or sth.
[2016-11-25 19:56:56] wurstgelee : i was. but orderbooks to thin for anyhting more than a few conttracts to close fast without a big loss
[2016-11-25 19:57:24] wurstgelee : so i had to close shortly after the dump
[2016-11-25 19:57:34] wurstgelee : with a profit, but not that much...
[2016-11-25 19:58:10] wurstgelee : still risky af to short...
[2016-11-25 19:59:46] thomaskikansha : thinking of 0.2 spot
[2016-11-25 20:00:10] wurstgelee : top of the nov 20 local low
[2016-11-25 20:00:14] wurstgelee : nov 14
[2016-11-25 20:00:24] wurstgelee : that local low, before it dumped...
[2016-11-25 20:00:28] wurstgelee : thats a good target :)
[2016-11-25 20:01:04] wurstgelee : if u want to place a bet on more upside that is...
[2016-11-25 20:01:39] wurstgelee : ~ .178
[2016-11-25 20:01:44] wurstgelee : somehwere there
[2016-11-25 20:04:05] CapitalGains : Got my finger on the short trigger, but I'm having flashbacks of ZEC short squeezes
[2016-11-25 20:04:12] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-11-25 20:04:14] wurstgelee : i had them too
[2016-11-25 20:04:26] wurstgelee : its too risky imo
[2016-11-25 20:04:38] wurstgelee : mc longs wont happen much
[2016-11-25 20:04:41] wurstgelee : so no adl
[2016-11-25 20:04:48] wurstgelee : su u need low bids...
[2016-11-25 20:04:51] wurstgelee : *so
[2016-11-25 20:04:58] wurstgelee : to close ofc
[2016-11-25 20:05:21] wurstgelee : risky
[2016-11-25 20:05:28] wurstgelee : los asks ofc
[2016-11-25 20:05:29] CapitalGains : Risk reward with shorting just isn't worth it
[2016-11-25 20:05:33] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-25 20:05:37] wurstgelee : the risk is tho
[2016-11-25 20:05:54] wurstgelee : never underestimate polo ;)
[2016-11-25 20:06:17] wurstgelee : maybe if we break .125. ....
[2016-11-25 20:06:51] imabeast : im in the risky business :)
[2016-11-25 20:06:55] imabeast : :D
[2016-11-25 20:07:06] QuantFocus : hmmm
[2016-11-25 20:07:11] QuantFocus : do user colors really change?
[2016-11-25 20:07:12] wurstgelee : ~200 btc put it @ a new high
[2016-11-25 20:07:15] wurstgelee : risky
[2016-11-25 20:07:25] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: i thought you were blue yesterday
[2016-11-25 20:07:33] CaptainDean : QuantFocus: he never been
[2016-11-25 20:07:38] wurstgelee : i trhink i had this color for quite a while
[2016-11-25 20:07:39] QuantFocus : have you been making so much money you're green now
[2016-11-25 20:07:40] wurstgelee : at least weeks
[2016-11-25 20:07:45] CaptainDean : QuantFocus: he's a green team
[2016-11-25 20:07:46] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-25 20:07:48] laisee : depends on your location
[2016-11-25 20:07:49] QuantFocus : oh, ok
[2016-11-25 20:07:54] wurstgelee : really?
[2016-11-25 20:07:58] laisee : and tax status
[2016-11-25 20:07:59] wurstgelee : location?
[2016-11-25 20:08:01] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-25 20:08:02] wurstgelee : fu sir
[2016-11-25 20:08:03] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-25 20:08:05] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-25 20:08:09] CaptainDean : it's random :P
[2016-11-25 20:08:14] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-11-25 20:08:17] QuantFocus : i must drink too much
[2016-11-25 20:08:29] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: or not enough
[2016-11-25 20:08:30] laisee : not random if ur name is 'ramdom'
[2016-11-25 20:08:36] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: lol
[2016-11-25 20:10:26] laisee : drunktrading,com
[2016-11-25 20:10:34] rms : i was supposed to win the good prize but didn't check my email in time
[2016-11-25 20:10:54] rms : i woke up and was like "wait, didn't i make more than the yacht club winner?" i guess my timing was weird
[2016-11-25 20:11:13] rms : i think they gave me 6 hours to confirm which didn't work for me
[2016-11-25 20:11:28] rms : longing zcash was the winning trade, FYI
[2016-11-25 20:12:01] wurstgelee : rms: ofc
[2016-11-25 20:12:05] QuantFocus : so trollboxer was the one to get rekt on that zec short?
[2016-11-25 20:12:07] QuantFocus : poor guy
[2016-11-25 20:12:11] wurstgelee : everyone up there longed zec
[2016-11-25 20:12:14] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-25 20:12:21] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: not sure
[2016-11-25 20:12:34] wurstgelee : theory is number 1 declined
[2016-11-25 20:12:36] QuantFocus : well they didn't specify, but that was certainly a large liquidation
[2016-11-25 20:12:40] wurstgelee : so he was maybe #2
[2016-11-25 20:12:42] QuantFocus : ahh
[2016-11-25 20:12:46] trollboxer : Invest the money in medical technology to save your loved ones. Don't spend your time staring at screens all day
[2016-11-25 20:13:00] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: he seemed happy about zec going up etc...
[2016-11-25 20:13:02] wurstgelee : doesnt fit
[2016-11-25 20:13:03] QuantFocus : probably not worth everyone know for 2btc
[2016-11-25 20:13:20] rms : of course not winning the prize was made up for by the profitable trade
[2016-11-25 20:13:24] wurstgelee : trollboxer: wb. and grats.
[2016-11-25 20:13:32] wurstgelee : even if its a prize for a loss ;)
[2016-11-25 20:13:33] rms : which was of course made up for by my equally unprofitable still open position on poloniex
[2016-11-25 20:13:40] habibi : trollboxer: hey, any comment on the contest u won?
[2016-11-25 20:13:59] QuantFocus : habibi: you won too buddy. congrats
[2016-11-25 20:14:02] QuantFocus : i think it was an inside job
[2016-11-25 20:14:36] habibi : QuantFocus: i was just lucky, real winners are other ones
[2016-11-25 20:15:19] trollboxer : That's my comment, trading vs other people is 0 sum, the winner doesn't have to do "real" work, and the loser has to go and be productive. The universe and the body is challenging enough that we should spend our energy fighting for the good of all men, not the good of one at the cost of another. When you think you're techically right about a thing, it doesn't mean you are "price" right.
[2016-11-25 20:16:11] trollboxer : In 10 years of trading, if you win lots, on the other side of all those trades is probably an unhappy customer. Better to find a way to make the same money and have a happy customer on the other side if you can.
[2016-11-25 20:17:08] wurstgelee : not sure if i get this, youre saying trading is bad?
[2016-11-25 20:18:50] rms : that it's better top make a life around positive sum games than to make a life around zero sum games
[2016-11-25 20:18:55] rms : *to make