This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

You have access to more than 50 million trollbox posts. This is more than 7 gigabyte of data hosted on a $5 server so please be patient or consider a donation

<<  >>  English  中文  Русский  한국어  日本語  Español  Français 
[2016-11-23 23:13:05] QA : wurstgelee: yes, i use bittrex currently but not enough
[2016-11-23 23:13:38] wurstgelee : i dont use it atm. but i have some gambit parked there
[2016-11-23 23:13:49] Tetsuo : crmun: It looks pretty bad for BTC
[2016-11-23 23:13:50] wurstgelee : my one and only long term alt hold
[2016-11-23 23:15:10] QuantFocus : Tetsuo: i agree
[2016-11-23 23:15:37] wurstgelee : ok, i had a look too now, i do not disagree
[2016-11-23 23:16:00] wurstgelee : also i welcome that because the timing would be perfect for the zec pump
[2016-11-23 23:16:02] crmun : Tetsuo: lot of ppl expecting 680$ area
[2016-11-23 23:16:30] QuantFocus : that looks like support to me as well
[2016-11-23 23:16:38] wurstgelee : only problem is, the things that a most people expect often dont happen
[2016-11-23 23:16:43] wurstgelee : *-a
[2016-11-23 23:16:51] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: :thumbsup:
[2016-11-23 23:17:02] QuantFocus : stop rekting dreams though
[2016-11-23 23:17:06] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-23 23:17:06] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-23 23:17:08] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-23 23:19:46] Tetsuo : I do agree that 680$ probably won´t hold for a long time
[2016-11-23 23:20:20] trollboxer : I can't find antyhign priced at $680?"
[2016-11-23 23:21:07] Tetsuo : trollboxer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0C7nqhfzU
[2016-11-23 23:21:58] trollboxer : prefer v cylinders over straight
[2016-11-23 23:23:03] imabeast : zec coming back to earth
[2016-11-23 23:26:50] Bogdan : wanna win a 1 BTC as a random person
[2016-11-23 23:28:26] QA : anyone teach me why ZEC raise a lot ?
[2016-11-23 23:28:40] wurstgelee : imabeast: should stabilize ~ .1 if this pump has legs
[2016-11-23 23:29:01] wurstgelee : QA: because whales said its time
[2016-11-23 23:29:13] wurstgelee : basically
[2016-11-23 23:29:18] imabeast : wurstgelee: yea i need a re-entry lol
[2016-11-23 23:29:24] wurstgelee : imabeast: hehe
[2016-11-23 23:29:49] wurstgelee : if it doesnt even get to .1
[2016-11-23 23:29:53] wurstgelee : *does
[2016-11-23 23:30:09] QA : wurstgelee: sorry, whats the relationship between Whales to Zec ?
[2016-11-23 23:30:12] imabeast : we shall see :D
[2016-11-23 23:30:43] wurstgelee : QA: whales: big animal, zec: bait, you: whalefood
[2016-11-23 23:31:10] zanza : catch that ZEC top boys
[2016-11-23 23:31:36] anonymous789 : this btc rally is so half hearted
[2016-11-23 23:32:44] QA : wurstgelee: thank you so much, i suppose you meant the Slot Jackpot
[2016-11-23 23:33:02] wurstgelee : slot jackpot?
[2016-11-23 23:33:11] laisee : we're all krill or bots
[2016-11-23 23:33:27] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-23 23:33:35] wurstgelee : sleger is a baby whale maybe
[2016-11-23 23:33:49] QA : whales of cash slot jackpot
[2016-11-23 23:33:58] rapidtrades : guys don't fight
[2016-11-23 23:34:18] wurstgelee : QA: i have no clue what that is, but whales=deep pockets
[2016-11-23 23:34:24] wurstgelee : here
[2016-11-23 23:36:13] QA : wurstgelee: fine, thank you. thus i am not a native English speaker, sorry for my poor English
[2016-11-23 23:36:50] wurstgelee : neither am i. your english i very well understandable tho.
[2016-11-23 23:37:01] QuantFocus : QA: you're in good company
[2016-11-23 23:37:45] wurstgelee : a lot of non-native english ppl here
[2016-11-23 23:38:33] Xobllort : Hello Evryone
[2016-11-23 23:38:35] rapidtrades : i think I've discovered the gayest sport in the world
[2016-11-23 23:38:42] rapidtrades : even gayer then soccer
[2016-11-23 23:38:44] QA : wurstgelee: proverb is hard to understand for me
[2016-11-23 23:38:49] rapidtrades : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBaB1SI_Lk4
[2016-11-23 23:38:55] rapidtrades : ^look at that gay shit
[2016-11-23 23:39:10] QA : rapidtrades: i am watching...
[2016-11-23 23:39:49] trollboxer : that is not even remotely close to the gayest dude
[2016-11-23 23:40:17] rapidtrades : trollboxer: oh yeah? what would be the gayest then
[2016-11-23 23:40:30] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JKonI8Td_M
[2016-11-23 23:40:43] QA : rapidtrades: it is sport game... seems nothing about coins
[2016-11-23 23:41:35] trollboxer : this seems pretty bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX9VBxtOOWg
[2016-11-23 23:41:37] QA : The Gayest Guy On Earth ... hahaha
[2016-11-23 23:41:44] rapidtrades : QA: watch closely at the frisbee
[2016-11-23 23:43:32] QA : rapidtrades: but closely to see what ? i do not understand this sport item
[2016-11-23 23:44:53] sleger : gayest is probably what you guys are doing : watching gay youtube videos (I assume, I refuse to click on those links)
[2016-11-23 23:45:33] QA : LOL
[2016-11-23 23:46:46] wurstgelee : QA: meet sleger, our warm-hearted but ruthless house whale
[2016-11-23 23:47:41] QA : wurstgelee: i am far away from you both
[2016-11-23 23:48:33] wurstgelee : i bought 1.something btc back in 2014
[2016-11-23 23:48:37] wurstgelee : most things start small
[2016-11-23 23:48:56] wurstgelee : and i am still small fish
[2016-11-23 23:49:05] sleger : i started with 100 in may 2013
[2016-11-23 23:49:20] wurstgelee : good base to start off :)
[2016-11-23 23:49:24] sleger : mar-may i think
[2016-11-23 23:49:28] Tetsuo : 250 in 2012 for tradin
[2016-11-23 23:49:43] Tetsuo : spent a few thousand BTC on drugs before that...
[2016-11-23 23:49:44] Tetsuo : FML
[2016-11-23 23:50:03] sleger : nice !
[2016-11-23 23:50:03] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: its amazing how many you get for 1 btc now.
[2016-11-23 23:50:05] wurstgelee : so i heard
[2016-11-23 23:50:12] Tetsuo : heard too
[2016-11-23 23:51:13] Tetsuo : i actually bought BTC for tradin becauz i thought the price will go up when Silkroad 1 announced the discount special for 420 sale in April 2013
[2016-11-23 23:51:39] Tetsuo : it worked out :-)
[2016-11-23 23:51:59] Tetsuo : see april 2013
[2016-11-23 23:52:23] Tetsuo : Drugs made me rich , hell yeah
[2016-11-23 23:52:46] Tetsuo : altough i wasn´t very good trader back then :-(
[2016-11-23 23:52:57] Nerve : i bought BTC first time in 2012...for silkroad offcourse
[2016-11-23 23:52:58] wurstgelee : i somehow managed to keep btc off my radar well after the ath
[2016-11-23 23:53:08] wurstgelee : no clue how that happened
[2016-11-23 23:54:35] Tetsuo : However i survived mtgox and btc24 without losing anything, altough i had most of my coins stored at them, always withdrew early enough
[2016-11-23 23:55:21] Tetsuo : well Gox was easy, warning signs were huge pretty early
[2016-11-23 23:56:27] wurstgelee : never lost coins that way, somehow. withdrew from cryptsy early.
[2016-11-23 23:56:28] Tetsuo : I remember that BTC24 offered to withdraw via cash, and they sent you thousands of € via mail in a shoebox
[2016-11-23 23:56:30] wurstgelee : never used gox
[2016-11-23 23:56:46] sleger : yep,i had 0.23$ when they closed withdrawal although i had a few hundreds btc 2 weeks before
[2016-11-23 23:57:12] sleger : (gox)
[2016-11-23 23:57:36] Tetsuo : sleger: i have 2$ or so left, did you also get that japanese postcard?
[2016-11-23 23:57:41] sleger : yep
[2016-11-23 23:57:55] wurstgelee : i lost 80k BAT coins to mintpal
[2016-11-23 23:57:57] sleger : and a few emails
[2016-11-23 23:57:59] wurstgelee : those were 1 sat each
[2016-11-23 23:58:31] Tetsuo : It often took 2 -3 weeks for deposits to arrive @ Gox
[2016-11-23 23:58:49] Tetsuo : BTC exchanges have matured a lot since then
[2016-11-23 23:58:52] sleger : however i had ~50k$ at finex during the hack, just in idle cash sitting there, not even on lending
[2016-11-23 23:59:18] wurstgelee : omg zec going down.
[2016-11-23 23:59:20] wurstgelee : quick
[2016-11-23 23:59:21] wurstgelee : dump
[2016-11-23 23:59:23] wurstgelee : everyone
[2016-11-23 23:59:49] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-23 23:59:56] wurstgelee : thank you unknown shorter
[2016-11-24 00:00:02] Nerve : @wurstgelee i'm in short from today afternoon....finaly is comming
[2016-11-24 00:00:37] Nerve : i hope to be a big one
[2016-11-24 00:00:45] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-24 00:00:49] Nerve : lol
[2016-11-24 00:00:54] laisee : big short?
[2016-11-24 00:00:59] Nerve : yeaahhhh
[2016-11-24 00:01:28] laisee : they can make a movie about you, with christian bale as you
[2016-11-24 00:01:32] wurstgelee : wait..u didnt short zec @ .05 ?
[2016-11-24 00:01:38] wurstgelee : just now?
[2016-11-24 00:03:37] Nerve : wurstgelee: i'm waiting for deposit confirmation...i had no founds available. i think i must contact the support
[2016-11-24 00:04:02] Nerve : it take too much
[2016-11-24 00:04:11] wurstgelee : u really shouldnt. short zec here.
[2016-11-24 00:04:14] wurstgelee : if u ask me
[2016-11-24 00:04:19] wurstgelee : Nerve: how many confirmations?
[2016-11-24 00:04:25] CaptainDean : Nerve: the BTC is has been attack, you might have a set a low fee for your transaction, it'll take time
[2016-11-24 00:04:34] CaptainDean : has been attacked*
[2016-11-24 00:04:45] CaptainDean : or whatever, you got it :
[2016-11-24 00:04:55] Nerve : no shit !
[2016-11-24 00:05:12] wurstgelee : Nerve: confirmations? #?
[2016-11-24 00:05:22] Nerve : 0
[2016-11-24 00:05:23] CaptainDean : Nerve: yeah, there is a lot of transaction in the stack
[2016-11-24 00:05:25] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-24 00:05:27] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-24 00:05:58] wurstgelee : u should address the lords of bitcoin then
[2016-11-24 00:06:02] wurstgelee : not bitmex admins
[2016-11-24 00:07:01] CaptainDean : Nerve: if you have in a hurry, i suggest you sent more BTC with an higher fee, just sent the first back to your wallet once it's confirmed
[2016-11-24 00:07:11] CaptainDean : first transaction**
[2016-11-24 00:07:37] trollboxer : I don't think the 50% zec to spot is going to hold. I think the miners are going to dump all the extra coins they get from difficulty going down from slow start.
[2016-11-24 00:08:02] trollboxer : There never really was a 50% zec to spot anway, it used to be mutltiples higher
[2016-11-24 00:08:03] rms : so you think spot will go down to meet futures price?
[2016-11-24 00:08:17] trollboxer : its just supply and demand, too many new coins
[2016-11-24 00:08:19] wurstgelee : trollboxer: difficulty going down?
[2016-11-24 00:08:20] trollboxer : not enough new money
[2016-11-24 00:08:24] wurstgelee : difficulty is still going up
[2016-11-24 00:08:40] trollboxer : the slow start ends in a couple days, then the flood gates open
[2016-11-24 00:08:40] wurstgelee : thats why minig dosnt get more profitable despite rising reward
[2016-11-24 00:08:44] wurstgelee : *doesnt
[2016-11-24 00:08:58] trollboxer : https://forum.z.cash/t/zec-slow-start-info-for-miners/5785
[2016-11-24 00:08:59] wurstgelee : there are no flood gates
[2016-11-24 00:09:05] wurstgelee : its a constant supply
[2016-11-24 00:09:10] trollboxer : its not been 34 days since oct.28 yet
[2016-11-24 00:09:17] trollboxer : we've been coin starved this whole time
[2016-11-24 00:09:26] trollboxer : the flood gates will be opened, for real
[2016-11-24 00:09:46] wurstgelee : go on, short :)
[2016-11-24 00:10:12] wurstgelee : wait, i'll help you
[2016-11-24 00:10:15] trollboxer : I think you misunderstood the slow start wurstgelee
[2016-11-24 00:10:20] Nerve : CaptainDean: Bitmex seen the deposit in blockchain, but is waiting for one confirmation
[2016-11-24 00:10:29] wurstgelee : trollboxer: go on
[2016-11-24 00:10:29] trollboxer : i been mining from the first hour :)
[2016-11-24 00:10:34] wurstgelee : i placed a bid ;)
[2016-11-24 00:10:52] trollboxer : I'm scared, the price might still go up
[2016-11-24 00:11:06] wurstgelee : not might, it most likely will imo
[2016-11-24 00:11:15] CaptainDean : Nerve: exactly, lower fee transaction get lower priority, it might take a while to get it confirmed
[2016-11-24 00:11:20] Nerve : CaptainDean: is still uncormirmed
[2016-11-24 00:11:36] wurstgelee : Nerve: were blocks mined?
[2016-11-24 00:11:49] wurstgelee : yeah, one block
[2016-11-24 00:11:51] wurstgelee : 4mins ago
[2016-11-24 00:11:52] rapidtrades : Nerve: are u depositing again? after u got RekTed yday?
[2016-11-24 00:11:53] Tetsuo : 4m
[2016-11-24 00:11:56] wurstgelee : before that 29 mins ago
[2016-11-24 00:12:19] Nerve : rapidtrades: YES
[2016-11-24 00:12:43] Nerve : rapidtrades: but i'm not in a rush anymore...
[2016-11-24 00:12:45] Tetsuo : Nerve: and then u started shortin ZEC with it?
[2016-11-24 00:12:53] Tetsuo : do u hate life and money in general?
[2016-11-24 00:13:11] justinlooking : sup fuckers
[2016-11-24 00:13:18] sleger : Nerve: buy some eth next time
[2016-11-24 00:13:24] Nerve : Tetsuo: NOO...i didn't short zec
[2016-11-24 00:13:58] Nerve : Tetsuo: i hate paper money....you got me . lol
[2016-11-24 00:14:11] CaptainDean : holy short
[2016-11-24 00:14:14] CaptainDean : zec
[2016-11-24 00:14:56] rapidtrades : some moron unloaded into the oderbook
[2016-11-24 00:15:00] rapidtrades : what a twat
[2016-11-24 00:15:10] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-24 00:15:12] wurstgelee : wtf?
[2016-11-24 00:15:28] rapidtrades : i think it's the same idiot that bought 101 at 0.05
[2016-11-24 00:15:32] wurstgelee : seriously...i dont get it...
[2016-11-24 00:15:50] wurstgelee : thats completely unnecessary
[2016-11-24 00:16:01] wurstgelee : either reduced profits or increased losses
[2016-11-24 00:16:17] sleger : or he is teaching you a lesson
[2016-11-24 00:16:21] rapidtrades : idk but 100 at these prices is only 4.5 btc so peanuts
[2016-11-24 00:16:22] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-11-24 00:16:23] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-24 00:16:25] sleger : my balls are bigger than yours
[2016-11-24 00:16:30] rapidtrades : sleger: YOU CAN'T TEACH ME ANYTHING
[2016-11-24 00:16:32] Tetsuo : i´m buyin a few here
[2016-11-24 00:16:40] wurstgelee : its simply ridiculously stupid....
[2016-11-24 00:16:45] rapidtrades : go buy ETH and their worthless tech
[2016-11-24 00:16:49] habibi : so much crying above :D
[2016-11-24 00:17:09] sleger : rapidtrades: calm down or you're gonna get your 4th ban
[2016-11-24 00:17:21] rapidtrades : u can't ban me
[2016-11-24 00:17:25] Tetsuo : equal to ETH ´s fork
[2016-11-24 00:17:40] trollboxer : zec is still up 15 percent for the day
[2016-11-24 00:17:44] trollboxer : that's still good right?
[2016-11-24 00:18:02] sleger : depends, if you longed at 3 it
[2016-11-24 00:18:07] sleger : 's kind of irrelevant
[2016-11-24 00:18:08] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-11-24 00:18:22] wurstgelee : it would be relevant if u had added to losers
[2016-11-24 00:18:30] wurstgelee : but you dont do it
[2016-11-24 00:18:49] rapidtrades : strictly hypothetically speaking of course
[2016-11-24 00:18:53] trollboxer : Here's the problem, that giant 2x move up shoudld have wiped out the shorts
[2016-11-24 00:18:55] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-24 00:19:01] trollboxer : no one got rekt, not a single one
[2016-11-24 00:19:05] trollboxer : so something is fishy
[2016-11-24 00:19:11] wurstgelee : trollboxer: thats not a problem
[2016-11-24 00:19:13] Tetsuo : trollboxer: not true
[2016-11-24 00:19:19] wurstgelee : polo dictates the direction
[2016-11-24 00:19:21] Tetsuo : there were quite some short rekts
[2016-11-24 00:19:21] wurstgelee : we follow
[2016-11-24 00:19:26] trollboxer : like, why would they just massive dump the order book 2x?
[2016-11-24 00:19:44] arbitrage001 : this guy trying to paint the tape
[2016-11-24 00:20:19] trollboxer : like, I'm afraid to buy because there's some seller I don't understand
[2016-11-24 00:20:22] arbitrage001 : anyway, will see who has the last laugh
[2016-11-24 00:20:26] arbitrage001 : on dec 30th
[2016-11-24 00:20:28] CaptainDean : well he bought then he sold (more then he bought I think)
[2016-11-24 00:20:54] rapidtrades : trollboxer: ofc there are sellers, they were given a free ride and $$$ with the cap
[2016-11-24 00:20:55] trollboxer : i bought into all those pumps too
[2016-11-24 00:21:01] rapidtrades : they won't stop until they lose all of it back
[2016-11-24 00:22:12] trollboxer : lets make sure we got the math right on coins available now, vs in 5 weeks, its super important
[2016-11-24 00:22:12] arbitrage001 : polo price seems to agree
[2016-11-24 00:22:23] arbitrage001 : well, tough luck on long
[2016-11-24 00:22:56] trollboxer : ok, at 20k blocks the floodgates open, where are we at now?
[2016-11-24 00:23:09] imabeast : wurstgelee: under .01... that was fast lol
[2016-11-24 00:23:22] wurstgelee : yeah, indeed
[2016-11-24 00:24:17] trollboxer : oh shit. we're only at block 15640
[2016-11-24 00:25:12] wurstgelee : again, no floodgates. reward is constantly increasing to 12.5 and stays there
[2016-11-24 00:25:19] trollboxer : you don't get it man
[2016-11-24 00:25:39] trollboxer : In order to give the network and its development some breathing room, Zcash is implementing a slow-start mechanism for the first 20,000 blocks (or about 34 days). In the event of a major bug or security vulnerability in the protocol, the slow-start will minimize the impact as initially, the block reward will be a fraction of the eventual 12.5 ZEC that will be created for each block for the first 850,000 blocks - at which point, the block reward halves. Over the slow-start period, the block reward will gradually and linearly increase until it reaches the full 12.5 ZEC at the 20,000th block. ZEC distribution rate for first 30,000 blocks
[2016-11-24 00:25:39] wurstgelee : no, u dont get what floodgates are
[2016-11-24 00:25:52] trollboxer : they are not getting 12.5 currently
[2016-11-24 00:25:59] wurstgelee : lol no
[2016-11-24 00:26:08] trollboxer : they will start getting 12.5 5,000 blocks from now
[2016-11-24 00:26:19] wurstgelee : 1:25 AM - wurstgelee: again, no floodgates. reward is constantly increasing to 12.5 and stays there
[2016-11-24 00:26:28] wurstgelee : right, a now its ~8 per block
[2016-11-24 00:26:31] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-11-24 00:26:34] rapidtrades : trollboxer: plz noone wants to read that shit
[2016-11-24 00:26:51] trollboxer : ok, i'll stop saying flood gate
[2016-11-24 00:26:52] trollboxer : sorry
[2016-11-24 00:27:14] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-24 00:27:15] wurstgelee : np
[2016-11-24 00:27:17] lockhedge : wurstgelee: 9.78 already
[2016-11-24 00:27:22] wurstgelee : an ico is a floodgate
[2016-11-24 00:27:28] trollboxer : right now zec has 76k coins in existance total
[2016-11-24 00:27:36] wurstgelee : lockhedge: oh wow
[2016-11-24 00:28:02] wurstgelee : hm..right..been a few days since i checked
[2016-11-24 00:28:30] trollboxer : the supply is literally an image, you can see what its "gate" looks like, if not flood: https://z.cash/blog/slow-start-and-mining-ecosystem.html
[2016-11-24 00:28:44] rapidtrades : $2,438,390 <market cap is still tiny
[2016-11-24 00:28:45] wurstgelee : well, i am buying here
[2016-11-24 00:28:55] rapidtrades : this shit has to be worth more then monero
[2016-11-24 00:29:35] rapidtrades : sry this is market cap $5,695,357
[2016-11-24 00:29:50] rapidtrades : vs monero $106,184,204
[2016-11-24 00:29:53] trollboxer : I think the same logic that caused this coin to start high and go low, will continue to exist until something else changes it
[2016-11-24 00:30:02] rapidtrades : expect 20x jump to 2
[2016-11-24 00:30:26] arbitrage001 : i would be happyto settle at 0.5 lol
[2016-11-24 00:31:02] Adriana : .
[2016-11-24 00:31:16] rapidtrades : Adriana: don't spam
[2016-11-24 00:31:25] wurstgelee : Adriana: please calm down
[2016-11-24 00:31:37] rapidtrades : what a cunt...
[2016-11-24 00:32:34] psk : ok
[2016-11-24 00:32:37] rapidtrades : guess the question is when will the market cap rise to 100 mil
[2016-11-24 00:32:38] trollboxer : the third chart on that graph is kiling me
[2016-11-24 00:32:49] trollboxer : *page
[2016-11-24 00:32:58] rapidtrades : we could have 5x coins by then
[2016-11-24 00:33:08] habibi : lets see how many new accounts will show up just to get into 2btc contest
[2016-11-24 00:35:26] rapidtrades : our expectancy to win is $1-2 so we're not losing much
[2016-11-24 00:38:44] Tetsuo : i know that i already wrote it earlier, but i still can´t believe that it was possible to withdraw cash from btc24.com up to 10k€ per day, and u got it sent per mail, without any KYC. Good ol days...
[2016-11-24 00:39:25] Tetsuo : Not that i have paid a single cent of tax until today....
[2016-11-24 00:40:01] Tetsuo : oh well i bette r get sleepin now, too drunk, talk too much...
[2016-11-24 00:42:04] mjones : Someone reordered the markets list. Nice! Much better
[2016-11-24 00:42:15] mjones : On mobile that is
[2016-11-24 00:42:37] sleger : Adriana: you look pretty
[2016-11-24 00:42:46] Tetsuo : sleger: she´s mine already!
[2016-11-24 00:43:00] Tetsuo : get your filthy hands off her
[2016-11-24 00:43:01] sleger : do you also have access to people ID pictures ?
[2016-11-24 00:43:28] Tetsuo : my swampy green also includes this feature
[2016-11-24 00:43:53] sleger : Adriana: I like your color, please tell me more
[2016-11-24 00:44:00] Tetsuo : rapid is really ugly btw
[2016-11-24 00:44:35] Adriana : sleger: Thank you :)
[2016-11-24 00:44:48] Tetsuo : Adriana: ur such a whore
[2016-11-24 00:45:14] Tetsuo : sleger is a class 1 pervert, beware
[2016-11-24 00:45:15] Adriana : Tetsuo: Mean!
[2016-11-24 00:45:17] sleger : Tetsuo: sorry mate, money speaks
[2016-11-24 00:46:10] crmun : ;D
[2016-11-24 00:47:39] sleger : Adriana: If I win the 2btc prize i will spend them on our first date
[2016-11-24 00:48:16] crmun : sleger: you wont cause i win
[2016-11-24 00:48:17] Tetsuo : He has 2 accounts! He´s a cheater!
[2016-11-24 00:48:42] sleger : crmun: there is more than one prize dummy
[2016-11-24 00:48:47] crmun : its written already
[2016-11-24 00:49:25] Adriana : sleger: I am afraid I am too far away from you geographically
[2016-11-24 00:49:46] Tetsuo : Adress plz
[2016-11-24 00:50:00] crmun : @sleger i have more than one account silly, i win all btc
[2016-11-24 00:50:07] sleger : Adriana: hours of travel dont count for love
[2016-11-24 00:50:41] Tetsuo : look at that slimy ghoul
[2016-11-24 00:50:51] sleger : Tetsuo: sore loser arent you ?
[2016-11-24 00:51:00] Tetsuo : : - (
[2016-11-24 00:51:13] Tetsuo : great movie btw
[2016-11-24 00:51:21] sleger : cant help it, been like that since kindergarten, chicks like me
[2016-11-24 00:51:38] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZUoZ_pZgk
[2016-11-24 00:51:47] Adriana : Tetsuo: Northern Russia, no kidding
[2016-11-24 00:52:07] Tetsuo : too cold
[2016-11-24 00:52:08] sleger : Adriana: i love st petersburg
[2016-11-24 00:52:20] Tetsuo : i once had a girlfriend from novosibirsk though
[2016-11-24 00:53:36] Adriana : sleger: Me too, best Russian city
[2016-11-24 00:54:19] Tetsuo : i have read everything form gogl and dostojewski, does that count?
[2016-11-24 00:54:25] Tetsuo : *gogol
[2016-11-24 00:55:25] Tetsuo : Fuck both of you, i´m goin to sleep now, pffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[2016-11-24 00:55:51] sleger : Adriana: stayed at hotel europe, 2btc could buy us a nice date
[2016-11-24 00:56:00] sleger : Tetsuo: yeah bye sweet dreams ;)
[2016-11-24 00:57:21] Adriana : sleger: with the current RUB exchange rate they can buy a very nice date
[2016-11-24 00:59:47] sleger : nothing isnt worth a russian beauty
[2016-11-24 00:59:52] sleger : :D
[2016-11-24 01:00:04] sleger : anyways just kidding, you should come more often on the chat though
[2016-11-24 01:05:56] toor : k.
[2016-11-24 01:06:44] Naloxone : iafl
[2016-11-24 01:09:56] trollboxer : so uh, i guess zec is kill?
[2016-11-24 01:10:01] trollboxer : no more pump today?
[2016-11-24 01:22:15] aaseb : I’m Feeling Lucky :)
[2016-11-24 01:23:45] sleger : I think Adriana will be the lucky winner
[2016-11-24 01:24:07] sleger : as if getting rid of Tetsuo wasnt a large enough win already...
[2016-11-24 01:29:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 742.98
[2016-11-24 01:33:11] Rado : Did the contest start?
[2016-11-24 01:33:51] Rado : We already have a liquidation
[2016-11-24 01:35:59] mjones : time to enter the trollbox competition
[2016-11-24 01:36:21] Rado : mjones: who will post the most insults?
[2016-11-24 01:36:33] mjones : who is the best troller
[2016-11-24 01:36:53] Rado : BTC going to 5000
[2016-11-24 01:36:58] Rado : ;)
[2016-11-24 01:37:12] mjones : i hope so. need a better long entry point
[2016-11-24 01:38:06] mjones : i see the zec bulltrap is complete
[2016-11-24 01:38:18] mjones : now with 5685 contracts open
[2016-11-24 01:38:27] MrWade : Go Cougs
[2016-11-24 01:38:59] Rado : mjones: maybe they are short
[2016-11-24 01:39:42] Rado : well I guess we have short and long the same amount
[2016-11-24 01:43:11] trollboxer : Rado did you see the graph I posed early on ZEC inflation in next 4 days?
[2016-11-24 01:49:01] Rado : No
[2016-11-24 01:52:07] rapidtrades : Rdo doesn't care a @trollboxer
[2016-11-24 01:52:26] trollboxer : 3rd picture: https://z.cash/blog/slow-start-and-mining-ecosystem.html
[2016-11-24 01:52:29] trollboxer : 4 days
[2016-11-24 01:54:26] trollboxer : this is funny, I can't manually outsell this stupid bot
[2016-11-24 01:54:41] trollboxer : its always bidding under me
[2016-11-24 01:56:18] Rado : rapidtrades: what's going on man?
[2016-11-24 01:59:40] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.9085 (vs. yesterday at 6.8904)
[2016-11-24 02:00:12] Rado : The whole 24 h of the contest BTC will be a bitch and not move
[2016-11-24 02:00:33] rapidtrades : offshore hit 6.9654 earlier
[2016-11-24 02:00:45] rapidtrades : now back down a bit
[2016-11-24 02:00:46] Rado : We need 7 :)
[2016-11-24 02:03:49] trollboxer : I beat the bot :)
[2016-11-24 02:04:13] rapidtrades : Pound only currency up against the dollar
[2016-11-24 02:04:23] rapidtrades : since trump win
[2016-11-24 02:09:06] sleger : and bitcoin
[2016-11-24 02:09:44] rapidtrades : f*ck bitcoin ok?
[2016-11-24 02:12:23] sleger : nok
[2016-11-24 02:12:31] Rado : F*ck fiat currencies
[2016-11-24 02:12:37] sleger : happy thanksgivng my turkey @rapidtrades
[2016-11-24 02:12:51] rapidtrades : wtf...
[2016-11-24 02:13:19] Rado : sleger: rapidtrades doesn't observe this holiday
[2016-11-24 02:13:46] trollboxer : well, the good news is, I beat the bot, the bad news is, no one wants to hit my asks
[2016-11-24 02:14:08] Rado : trollboxer: what are you trading!
[2016-11-24 02:14:11] Rado : ?
[2016-11-24 02:14:13] trollboxer : zec
[2016-11-24 02:14:19] trollboxer : getting out of this trash
[2016-11-24 02:15:01] Rado : 1 contract?
[2016-11-24 02:15:09] trollboxer : lol
[2016-11-24 02:15:21] trollboxer : eat up those asks, and you will know
[2016-11-24 02:17:10] Rado : sleger: are you sure Adrian is a girl?
[2016-11-24 02:17:18] Rado : Adriana
[2016-11-24 02:17:30] trollboxer : There are no women on the internet
[2016-11-24 02:18:04] thiago : hey
[2016-11-24 02:18:12] thiago : why the mark price changes so slowly?
[2016-11-24 02:18:38] thiago : we are at 744 and mark price says 741,97
[2016-11-24 02:19:14] Rado : Mark is closer to spot price
[2016-11-24 02:19:26] Rado : contracts can trade a premium or discount
[2016-11-24 02:19:33] BitMEX_Greg : thiago: yes people are buying up at a premium right now vs mark price
[2016-11-24 02:19:34] ashmonroe99 : goodnight bros
[2016-11-24 02:19:36] Rado : right now there is a premium
[2016-11-24 02:19:54] BitMEX_Greg : Could be anticipation from the recent PBOC CNY fix?
[2016-11-24 02:20:12] thiago : thanks both ^^
[2016-11-24 02:20:15] ashmonroe99 : I am noob but to trading but also a fast learner
[2016-11-24 02:20:30] ashmonroe99 : lets see what this journey holds for the future
[2016-11-24 02:20:32] Rado : ashmonroe99: good luck
[2016-11-24 02:20:48] ashmonroe99 : Thanks @Rado
[2016-11-24 02:21:16] ashmonroe99 : Any guidelines?
[2016-11-24 02:21:49] Chumba : ashmonroe99: Howdy
[2016-11-24 02:21:51] Rado : ashmonroe99: what do you want to trade?
[2016-11-24 02:21:52] Chumba : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY4V3UUY95A
[2016-11-24 02:21:57] ashmonroe99 : How much should I first deposit to get the hang of things? is there anything I can read to better unnderstand tradig?
[2016-11-24 02:22:16] ashmonroe99 : Bitcoins
[2016-11-24 02:22:25] ashmonroe99 : I only have BTC right now
[2016-11-24 02:22:42] Rado : start with 1 BTC and trade no more that 1000 contracts
[2016-11-24 02:22:42] BitMEX_Greg : ashmonroe99: Hi we have some thorough guides to the platform under the "references" page: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-11-24 02:22:55] Rado : untul you get a feel for how things work
[2016-11-24 02:23:08] ashmonroe99 : Thanks Greg
[2016-11-24 02:23:09] Rado : you can also try the testnet first
[2016-11-24 02:23:18] ashmonroe99 : Ill check into it right away
[2016-11-24 02:23:44] jose : ashmonroe99: dont go more than 10x or your money is gone in one night
[2016-11-24 02:24:12] Abe : Would a low mark price indicate that the the price will go up soon?
[2016-11-24 02:24:17] ashmonroe99 : 10 x
[2016-11-24 02:24:19] ashmonroe99 : cool
[2016-11-24 02:24:56] Rado : Abe: no
[2016-11-24 02:25:07] ashmonroe99 : im gonna do some reading any tutorial hopefully I get the hang of things soon
[2016-11-24 02:25:33] Abe : would a low mark price indicate that the price is undervalued and will go up soon?
[2016-11-24 02:25:45] Rado : No
[2016-11-24 02:26:17] ashmonroe99 : Thank @Rado @Jose @Chumba @greg
[2016-11-24 02:28:30] Abe : Would a low mark price indicate that the asset is undervalued and that the price should go up soon
[2016-11-24 02:30:22] m.m : Q: e.g. when in a Long I sell parts of my position, but not completely close it. Are these operations included in the Unrealised PNL and will materialize when position is completely closed?
[2016-11-24 02:30:51] trollboxer : In theory the mark should always approach the last traded price, for it is arrived at by applying a bias to the last traded price, and thus its only a modification of the last traded price, if I understand its description properly
[2016-11-24 02:31:21] trollboxer : This basis is declared in the contract description if you click the contract name on the side bar
[2016-11-24 02:33:20] trollboxer : I think this is the best description of it? https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-11-24 02:35:18] BitMEX_Wally : m.m: If you are in a long and partially sell then this goes into Realised PNL
[2016-11-24 02:36:39] BitMEX_Wally : Then Unrealised PNL will show the PNL between the average entry price and the current mark price for the remaining position
[2016-11-24 02:42:35] m.m : gotcha
[2016-11-24 02:52:27] trollboxer : I think ZEC is going to pump!
[2016-11-24 02:53:50] m.m : BitMEX_Wally: follow up Q: earlier I entered a Long position and didn't make a single sell. The price of the asset went lower than my entry point, and i saw a negative Realised PNL. Why so? if i hadn't 'realized' anything yet..
[2016-11-24 02:56:05] BitMEX_Greg : m.m: Trading fees and funding is also included in Realised PNL
[2016-11-24 02:56:38] m.m : how does funding work?
[2016-11-24 02:56:50] Julian : never thought I would say this but ZEC actually looks cheap
[2016-11-24 02:58:11] BitMEX_Greg : m.m: Take a read here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2016-11-24 02:59:03] trollboxer : That last big move was a closing of a position
[2016-11-24 02:59:07] trollboxer : the open insterest went down
[2016-11-24 02:59:56] trollboxer : 30 minutes ago the open interest was 120 or so higher
[2016-11-24 03:00:19] trollboxer : So I retract my pumping feeling
[2016-11-24 03:00:49] XXXX : trollboxer: of course ZEC is going to pump. even if it doesnt I dont think ZEC will dump to 0.05 on dec 31. This discount on bitmex is ridiculuous and is based on assumption that ZEC will continue to fall. the fall was warranted from 3000 BTC per ZEC till 0.1 BTC. but I dont see it falling anymore from current price.
[2016-11-24 03:01:19] trollboxer : closing open positions is anti pump I think?
[2016-11-24 03:01:59] trollboxer : in 5 weeks, when there are literally 5x the coins available in the world there are now, where will those coins go?
[2016-11-24 03:03:09] XXXX : trollboxer: it will be bought by whales and traders. If traders can buy ZEC at 3000 BTC per ZEC I dont see why wont they buy at 0.1 BTC per ZEC. All is needed is a hype. and it will come in coming weeks for sure.
[2016-11-24 03:03:17] trollboxer : When you can see mining pools dumping their coins on poliniex in mass, as their wallets are known, they will do what they haev always done
[2016-11-24 03:03:50] XXXX : miners have stopped selling below 0.1 BTC. I know I have.
[2016-11-24 03:06:03] m.m : i don't fully grasp funding. so do both Long and Shares pay this funding? does this depend on the size of the order? and does it depend on wether your position is in profit or loss?
[2016-11-24 03:06:13] trollboxer : I believe that an object in motion tends to stay in motion, unless acted upon by an equal and opposite force. I know which direction ZEC is going. If someone shows me an equal or opposite force, I
[2016-11-24 03:06:21] trollboxer : will change my opinion
[2016-11-24 03:06:23] m.m : Long and Shorts*
[2016-11-24 03:08:47] XXXX : trollboxer: everything was known about ZEC before it was launched. the 20% premine, super inflation rate, miners dump etc. That didnt stop from pumping ZEC above bitcoin parity. There is no logic in short term (1 month) trading of cryptos. it is all decided by whales.
[2016-11-24 03:09:54] XXXX : In my opinion ZEC will pump to circa. 0.5 BTC before resuming the fall to again 0.07 BTC. All shorts will get REKT. REKT. REKT.
[2016-11-24 03:10:11] trollboxer : then why is it #37 on coinmarketcap?
[2016-11-24 03:11:49] XXXX : All I understand is that if the initial founders of ZCASH paid 0.03BTC per ZEC then it is the absolute floor. There is no way it is going below that. All those who were left out in ZEC initial funding will start buying at 0.04-0.05 BTC per ZEC.
[2016-11-24 03:12:10] BitMEX_Wally : m.m: Funding is paid between long and shorts on XBTUSD. At the moment the funding rate is positive so longs pay and shorts receive. It does not matter if your position is in profit or loss, just if you are long or short
[2016-11-24 03:13:01] XXXX : Also not a lot of traders who trade on polo know about bitmex. otherwise why the hell would they pay 100% premium on bitmex's price?
[2016-11-24 03:13:58] BitMEX_Wally : XXXX: We have an affiliate programme, go spread the word :) https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2016-11-24 03:14:53] XXXX : BitMEX_Wally: thanks for the offer but you will have to find others to spread the words unless the reward is more than 1 BTC for 1 hours of work, I have better things to do.
[2016-11-24 03:16:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 500 @ 761.12
[2016-11-24 03:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1000 @ 759.48
[2016-11-24 03:17:38] XXXX : BitMEX_Wally: make that 1 BTC per 8 hours worth of work. Thats my charge out rate in my current role as mining consultant.
[2016-11-24 03:17:51] mjones : someone really going for that liquidation award
[2016-11-24 03:20:05] m.m : so if i hodl for a long time. there will be days where i pay and days where i get paid? is there a strategy for funding, or in the end there is no need to pay close attention to this? where do i check the current rate?
[2016-11-24 03:20:06] BitMEX_Wally : mjones: The competition period starts in 9 hours
[2016-11-24 03:20:34] BitMEX_Wally : m.m: The current funding rate is shown in the Contract Details panel on the sidebar
[2016-11-24 03:21:17] BitMEX_Wally : You can see a history of funding rates here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-11-24 03:22:35] mjones : oh got my am and pm mixed up
[2016-11-24 03:22:43] m.m : ty
[2016-11-24 03:23:37] habibi : knock knock xmr mm
[2016-11-24 03:23:38] m.m : and is this accurate: if i hodl for a long time. there will be days where i pay and days where i get paid? in the end there is no need to pay close attention to this?
[2016-11-24 03:24:02] m.m : or is it better to engage in short trades that arent exposed to this funding?
[2016-11-24 03:24:41] m.m : short as in time.
[2016-11-24 03:25:15] BitMEX_Greg : m.m: We encourage all users to keep track of the funding they are paying. We cannot tell if the short funding rate over the time you hold it will equal the long funding rate
[2016-11-24 03:27:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14112 @ 738.00
[2016-11-24 03:27:39] rapidtrades : noooooooooooooo
[2016-11-24 03:28:20] CaptainDean : got rekt Rapid ?
[2016-11-24 03:28:45] mjones : glad to see people trading chop on high leverage
[2016-11-24 03:28:45] rapidtrades : no
[2016-11-24 03:29:17] XXXX : m.m: if you are long, most likely you will pay funding. The funding rate for Bitcoin long is approximately 0.3% to 1% per day based on last few months. To sum up, if a particular coin is in uptrend the funding rates will be higher if you want to go long because there will be very small amount of traders willing to go short unless the funding rate they get paid is high enough.
[2016-11-24 03:30:19] mjones : here comes a BTC Trumpsgiving dump
[2016-11-24 03:30:31] rapidtrades : omg no
[2016-11-24 03:30:49] rapidtrades : china loves to dump on US holidays
[2016-11-24 03:32:29] mjones : more like, "remember last thanksgiving i said buy btc it is $350? well today it is $740"
[2016-11-24 03:33:11] rapidtrades : I'll be honest with u jones
[2016-11-24 03:33:23] rapidtrades : even if u said that 5 mins ago, I wouldn't remember
[2016-11-24 03:33:38] mjones : drugs are bad mmmmk
[2016-11-24 03:34:20] rapidtrades : what happened to that dutch guy trading with his tuition money?
[2016-11-24 03:36:25] miramm1115 : working at McDonalds, no time to trade :smile:
[2016-11-24 03:36:28] numero : cough cough * he's feeling lucky
[2016-11-24 03:36:51] numero : or do you mean RoftheNorth?
[2016-11-24 03:37:02] numero : Tetsuo's alter ego
[2016-11-24 03:39:15] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: anything on Black Friday or Cyber Monday? lower fees ?
[2016-11-24 03:40:05] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: No, we are just running the Anniversary promotion
[2016-11-24 03:41:00] miramm1115 : bigger REKTs on Black Friday
[2016-11-24 03:41:48] numero : I would shoot the moon, but I don't have enough tuition money :(
[2016-11-24 03:46:50] shiroe : More btc sells on friday? :P
[2016-11-24 03:51:50] numero : gambling at BitMEX with foodbank savings is better than this mmmk? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-23/look-how-much-junk-food-bought-taxpayer-funded-food-stamps
[2016-11-24 03:55:20] viptrader : hey
[2016-11-24 03:55:26] viptrader : how are you guys
[2016-11-24 03:55:49] viptrader : how do i enter for the 1 btc win
[2016-11-24 03:55:59] viptrader : i need this
[2016-11-24 03:56:35] rapidtrades : do 1 trade
[2016-11-24 03:56:51] rapidtrades : any size works i think
[2016-11-24 04:02:13] +1 : viptrader: It's in 8 hrs
[2016-11-24 04:02:30] 2828883 : what is XBT?
[2016-11-24 04:02:45] chromaticcr1 : 2828883: XBT = BTC = Bitcoin
[2016-11-24 04:02:56] 2828883 : Thanks
[2016-11-24 04:03:20] rapidtrades : omg $736 we're all dead
[2016-11-24 04:06:09] +1 : rapidtrades: How low can it go?
[2016-11-24 04:06:14] numero : viptrader: psst, maybe if we pool our money we can shoot the moon and split the profit 50:50
[2016-11-24 04:08:11] rapidtrades : +1: if ZEC is any guide, 0