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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-11-23 18:04:15] +1 : I’m Feeling Lucky
[2016-11-23 18:04:54] mjones : isnt that tomorrow
[2016-11-23 18:05:03] mjones : i hope i'm feeling lucky tomorrow too
[2016-11-23 18:05:36] mjones : 18 hours till i win some BTC for being a troll
[2016-11-23 18:05:59] +1 : mjones: it's today
[2016-11-23 18:06:07] rapidtrades : mjones: wait what
[2016-11-23 18:06:10] +1 : LOL
[2016-11-23 18:06:42] +1 : rapidtrades: Now everyone forgets?
[2016-11-23 18:07:04] CapitalGains : +1: Nice try
[2016-11-23 18:07:07] rapidtrades : they finally put it up in announcements
[2016-11-23 18:07:21] sleger : j8: you said the index will drop 1/2% so the premium would increase by 1/2% after the index drops
[2016-11-23 18:07:37] j8 : yep
[2016-11-23 18:08:23] sleger : j8: ok i guess i misunderstood your latest statement "the bi-weekly premium is effectively half a percent more than it seems"
[2016-11-23 18:08:23] rapidtrades : so i just need one trade to qulaify as a troll?
[2016-11-23 18:08:24] j8 : so the half percent that's there already is not explained by that, it's added to that
[2016-11-23 18:08:42] mjones : rapidtrades: read the trading awards announcement.
[2016-11-23 18:08:48] rapidtrades : i just did
[2016-11-23 18:08:52] rapidtrades : i asked a q
[2016-11-23 18:09:07] sleger : rapidtrades: you already qualify as a troll
[2016-11-23 18:09:08] sleger : big time
[2016-11-23 18:09:16] rapidtrades : i'll do a 1 contract on swap
[2016-11-23 18:09:41] rapidtrades : oh wait its for tomorrow
[2016-11-23 18:09:43] mjones : 24 November 2016 12:00 UTC to 25 November 2016 12:00 UTC
[2016-11-23 18:09:45] mjones : that's in 6 hours
[2016-11-23 18:09:52] rapidtrades : i just posted that jone
[2016-11-23 18:10:05] mjones : word
[2016-11-23 18:10:29] lockhedge : i'm thinking of running a mm with 4 btc margin on 25x. if volatility is low, i'm Big Spender. if vaolatility is high i'
[2016-11-23 18:10:49] rapidtrades : FINISH IT
[2016-11-23 18:11:03] lockhedge : *if volatility is high i'm "Shoot The Moon" or "YachtClub"
[2016-11-23 18:11:41] rapidtrades : if volatility is high mm usually get ra*ped
[2016-11-23 18:12:21] mjones : if no one gets liquidated tomorrow then i'll make sure i do to win that award
[2016-11-23 18:12:47] wurstgelee : i usually get liquidated each 3 days
[2016-11-23 18:12:52] wurstgelee : it's day 2
[2016-11-23 18:12:54] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-23 18:12:58] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-23 18:13:20] wurstgelee : 50x all the way.... ;)
[2016-11-23 18:13:24] wurstgelee : and 10x alts
[2016-11-23 18:14:06] j8 : someone's gonna lose a lot more than 2 btc going for that prize
[2016-11-23 18:14:07] rapidtrades : bloomberg turned all their anchors from blond to redheads
[2016-11-23 18:14:38] mjones : hot
[2016-11-23 18:14:56] wurstgelee : "big spender" will prob escalate with sleger winning by selling and buying between 2 of his accounts
[2016-11-23 18:15:36] wurstgelee : or someone else....lots of self trading
[2016-11-23 18:15:38] sleger : wont risk getting into high leverage for 2 btc prize
[2016-11-23 18:15:49] wurstgelee : sleger: u can win with turnover
[2016-11-23 18:15:52] wurstgelee : volume
[2016-11-23 18:16:01] sleger : nah the MM will be hard to beat there
[2016-11-23 18:16:12] wurstgelee : sleger: • Big Spender: Trader with the most Bitcoin turnover summed across all BitMEX products.
[2016-11-23 18:16:27] wurstgelee : sleger: oops. didnt consider that
[2016-11-23 18:16:29] wurstgelee : true
[2016-11-23 18:16:43] wurstgelee : if they participate, they win.
[2016-11-23 18:16:48] wurstgelee : *or he
[2016-11-23 18:16:56] j8 : yeah, all your volume is volume for someone else too
[2016-11-23 18:17:04] j8 : unless you self-trade
[2016-11-23 18:17:13] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-23 18:17:14] sleger : but fees are too high here for that
[2016-11-23 18:17:27] NW2443 : buy or sell btc?
[2016-11-23 18:17:34] wurstgelee : or
[2016-11-23 18:17:40] sleger : NW2443: AND
[2016-11-23 18:17:53] wurstgelee : buy and or sell
[2016-11-23 18:17:54] lockhedge : 4000 btc volume with 2 btc invested in wash trading
[2016-11-23 18:18:05] wurstgelee : lockhedge: mm has some more ;)
[2016-11-23 18:18:15] lockhedge : no, not today
[2016-11-23 18:18:25] wurstgelee : hm, right
[2016-11-23 18:18:27] sleger : avg roundtrip price here is 0.05% so 2btc*100*20 = what he said
[2016-11-23 18:18:41] sleger : 2btcx100x20
[2016-11-23 18:19:03] BitMEX_Sam : We've talked to our lead MMs and they have agreed to be excluded from the volume consideration for Thursday
[2016-11-23 18:19:07] NW2443 : what is difference unrealised and realised
[2016-11-23 18:19:14] sleger : how nice of them
[2016-11-23 18:19:15] BitMEX_Sam : Those of you who we talked to know who they are, the rest are in the running
[2016-11-23 18:19:26] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: ok, that makes it interesting again ;)
[2016-11-23 18:19:44] sleger : NW2443: "un"
[2016-11-23 18:19:50] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-23 18:20:02] j8 : they'll probably make something MMing the competition anyway
[2016-11-23 18:20:04] NW2443 : haha
[2016-11-23 18:22:04] +1 : When did I agree to be excluded? LOL
[2016-11-23 18:22:38] sleger : hillaryous
[2016-11-23 18:24:00] mjones : wait there be no movement those 24 hours. just sideways
[2016-11-23 18:40:04] anonymous789 : okc having a real battle at this 5200 level
[2016-11-23 18:40:11] CapitalGains : Question guys: in, say, a bearish BTC market, does SWAP have negative funding more frequently?
[2016-11-23 18:40:20] sleger : yes
[2016-11-23 18:40:34] trollboxer : someone is eating the hidden wall on zec
[2016-11-23 18:41:49] trollboxer : short squeeze?
[2016-11-23 18:43:18] trollboxer : i'll try to push it back down
[2016-11-23 18:46:31] trollboxer : good luck bidding through dem wallz
[2016-11-23 18:47:24] wurstgelee : the price will get closer to spot@polo every day
[2016-11-23 18:47:30] wurstgelee : no matter any walls...
[2016-11-23 18:48:02] anonymous789 : still lower highs looks bearish short term
[2016-11-23 18:48:27] trollboxer : i'm scared
[2016-11-23 18:48:51] trollboxer : plz no liquidation
[2016-11-23 18:48:59] trollboxer : is there a limit on the daily movement on zec?
[2016-11-23 18:49:04] mjones : no
[2016-11-23 18:49:10] anonymous789 : be funny if this is the start of the bounce to 1200+ lol
[2016-11-23 18:49:12] CapitalGains : trollboxer: can't go higher than 100 BTC at the moment
[2016-11-23 18:49:25] trollboxer : oh, thank goodness
[2016-11-23 18:49:42] arbitrage001 : trollboxer: what is your liquidation price?
[2016-11-23 18:50:10] wurstgelee : we are @ 2.5 days (almost) of no-new-lows. despite btc
[2016-11-23 18:50:19] wurstgelee : thats something
[2016-11-23 18:50:38] wurstgelee : not saying this was bottom, but we are getting closer...
[2016-11-23 18:51:03] trollboxer : I think the half price coins are too tasty looking for miners. they can sell at .90 and buy here at .45
[2016-11-23 18:51:18] wurstgelee : no new lows despite supply rapidly increasing.
[2016-11-23 18:51:21] trollboxer : instant double money for them right?
[2016-11-23 18:51:27] wurstgelee : thats a first for an alt afaik
[2016-11-23 18:51:49] wurstgelee : trollboxer: vc money bought for .02
[2016-11-23 18:51:50] sleger : or they can sell at 0.9 and just not buy here
[2016-11-23 18:51:51] wurstgelee : $15
[2016-11-23 18:52:17] wurstgelee : so +125% whery we are atm
[2016-11-23 18:52:24] wurstgelee : *where
[2016-11-23 18:52:36] wurstgelee : thats by far not too much....
[2016-11-23 18:52:54] wurstgelee : others beg to differ tho. just 2 cents
[2016-11-23 18:53:34] wurstgelee : and those who shorted @ 0.035 .....ouch
[2016-11-23 18:53:39] wurstgelee : also thank you :)
[2016-11-23 18:58:44] sleger : wurstgelee: also i dont think VC got their coins immediately, it was progressively given to them over 4 years
[2016-11-23 18:58:55] sleger : so they are not even sure to be in profit in the end
[2016-11-23 18:58:56] wurstgelee : sleger: exactly
[2016-11-23 18:59:35] martinium : BTC holding support range like a boss
[2016-11-23 18:59:37] trollboxer : Yeah, the founders aren't selling their coins, you can see them in the chain, they'll support the price
[2016-11-23 18:59:41] sleger : buying a new coin with 21m coins at 15$ might not have been the best investment anyways if you get those in 2y average
[2016-11-23 18:59:48] wurstgelee : trollboxer: yes
[2016-11-23 19:00:00] wurstgelee : sleger: yeah, might or might not ;)
[2016-11-23 19:00:14] sleger : unlike people who invested in eth
[2016-11-23 19:00:20] sleger : big success
[2016-11-23 19:00:22] wurstgelee : otherwise there would be nothing to trade
[2016-11-23 19:00:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 19:01:00] sleger : Vitalik made blockchains great again
[2016-11-23 19:01:10] sleger : he has tremendous vision and the best judgment
[2016-11-23 19:01:25] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-23 19:01:43] wurstgelee : not sure if trolling tbh
[2016-11-23 19:01:54] arbitrage001 : polo will soon have no other coin but eth1,2,3,4,5,6 and etc
[2016-11-23 19:02:05] arbitrage001 : good for polo volume also
[2016-11-23 19:02:16] wurstgelee : we could be @ eth8 now
[2016-11-23 19:02:29] wurstgelee : but the other chains and potentials chains died
[2016-11-23 19:02:32] wurstgelee : *-s
[2016-11-23 19:02:38] sleger : there is only one vitalik though
[2016-11-23 19:03:06] wurstgelee : there was also only one hitler
[2016-11-23 19:03:11] wurstgelee : what are u trying to say?
[2016-11-23 19:03:35] sleger : all the other eth are worthless because they do not have their vitalik
[2016-11-23 19:03:50] wurstgelee : they do. vitalik works for them if they want to
[2016-11-23 19:03:53] wurstgelee : open source, right?
[2016-11-23 19:04:19] wurstgelee : they can go as much the same way as they want
[2016-11-23 19:04:24] sleger : yes but they are not just copycats, etc wont have pos for instance
[2016-11-23 19:04:31] wurstgelee : but with an untikered ledger
[2016-11-23 19:04:35] wurstgelee : *n
[2016-11-23 19:04:38] wurstgelee : in case of etc
[2016-11-23 19:04:41] sleger : sometimes refusing one fork means the other are impossible to steal
[2016-11-23 19:04:59] wurstgelee : i disagree. iyou have an example?
[2016-11-23 19:05:24] rapidtrades : nothing major in the Fed minutes
[2016-11-23 19:05:40] sleger : eth fundation could introduce something in next hard fork that makes it impossible to adopt if dao still has its tokens for instance
[2016-11-23 19:05:57] wurstgelee : too vague. what could that be?
[2016-11-23 19:06:04] sleger : then etc would have to dig into the code to remove that
[2016-11-23 19:06:21] sleger : if wallet xxxx contains tokens then selfdestruct
[2016-11-23 19:06:25] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-23 19:06:30] wurstgelee : bullshit :)
[2016-11-23 19:06:58] wurstgelee : thats just not true, there is nothing what you couldnt imploement with the dao tokens untouched
[2016-11-23 19:07:14] wurstgelee : the opposite is possible tho
[2016-11-23 19:07:15] sleger : i just gave an example
[2016-11-23 19:07:28] sleger : it might be obvious to remove by changing code but still
[2016-11-23 19:07:30] wurstgelee : etc could introduce ledger checks which eth couldnt pass ;)
[2016-11-23 19:07:58] rapidtrades : ETC>ETH
[2016-11-23 19:08:17] sleger : as the price clearly shows
[2016-11-23 19:08:26] CapitalGains : sleger: +1
[2016-11-23 19:08:34] wurstgelee : etc has a ledger. eth has something ledgeresque
[2016-11-23 19:08:40] wurstgelee : eth cannot fix that
[2016-11-23 19:08:42] wurstgelee : never
[2016-11-23 19:08:52] wurstgelee : not even vitalik
[2016-11-23 19:09:56] wurstgelee : eth is a dead chain glued together with a new chain
[2016-11-23 19:09:57] trollboxer : we need a new chain to track the forks, like a merkle tree of all the different eth forks
[2016-11-23 19:10:06] trollboxer : we can call it ethtree
[2016-11-23 19:10:49] sleger : bitcoiners are jealous because they cant fork
[2016-11-23 19:11:09] wurstgelee : they will fork. the elegant way.
[2016-11-23 19:11:15] rapidtrades : sleger: plz
[2016-11-23 19:11:16] wurstgelee : a soft fork is the better fork
[2016-11-23 19:11:23] sleger : vitalik doesnt need plates, he just eats forks
[2016-11-23 19:11:31] wurstgelee : if u u want force u use a hard soft fork
[2016-11-23 19:11:37] wurstgelee : the evil fork ;)
[2016-11-23 19:11:50] wurstgelee : thats how u do it properly...
[2016-11-23 19:11:58] wurstgelee : simple HF are for brutes
[2016-11-23 19:11:58] sleger : chinese people control bitcoin
[2016-11-23 19:12:01] sleger : and they dont use forks
[2016-11-23 19:12:03] sleger : ever
[2016-11-23 19:12:09] sleger : maybe bitcoin will chop
[2016-11-23 19:12:10] sleger : at best
[2016-11-23 19:12:17] wurstgelee : if lord vitalik had used a hard soft work, etc wouldnt exist
[2016-11-23 19:12:22] wurstgelee : biiiiiig mistake
[2016-11-23 19:12:58] sleger : try to tell a chinese how to use a fork
[2016-11-23 19:13:08] sleger : jung1 ?
[2016-11-23 19:13:12] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-23 19:13:41] rapidtrades : so asians use those stupid chopsticks are home too?
[2016-11-23 19:13:54] trollboxer : I think breaking every single wallet is a great way to move foward in a coin. Inspires confidence, like when you turn on ps4, and can't play, because you need an hour long downloaded update.
[2016-11-23 19:14:02] wurstgelee : yes, are home too
[2016-11-23 19:14:12] trollboxer : in that hour of staring at the update screen, you grow to appreciate what you are waiting for, how important it is
[2016-11-23 19:14:19] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-23 19:14:34] rapidtrades : why? they're less efficient
[2016-11-23 19:14:34] trollboxer : i like to hurt myself while I wait
[2016-11-23 19:14:42] sleger : rapidtrades: why would they go the hard way and use a fork ?
[2016-11-23 19:14:48] sleger : or a spoon
[2016-11-23 19:14:50] sleger : to eat rice
[2016-11-23 19:15:13] sleger : they only use fork to drink soup
[2016-11-23 19:15:38] wurstgelee : they probably use funnels are home like everyone else
[2016-11-23 19:16:12] sleger : at you sure ?
[2016-11-23 19:16:23] wurstgelee : somewhere
[2016-11-23 19:17:06] rapidtrades : I'm no scientist but wouldn't a spoon be the most efficient way to eat rice?
[2016-11-23 19:17:37] wurstgelee : running around naked in the summer would also be efficient
[2016-11-23 19:17:44] mjones : etc buy side only has 4 orders
[2016-11-23 19:17:47] trollboxer : pouring the bowl directly into my mouth saves on cleanup
[2016-11-23 19:18:10] sleger : trollboxer: not for your clothes though
[2016-11-23 19:18:18] trollboxer : I have a really big mouth
[2016-11-23 19:18:25] wurstgelee : trollboxer: use the pot, more efficient
[2016-11-23 19:18:26] sleger : rapid you confirm ?
[2016-11-23 19:18:31] trollboxer : and I don't wear clothes at home
[2016-11-23 19:18:41] wurstgelee : its winter ffs
[2016-11-23 19:18:51] sleger : well thats when we have heat
[2016-11-23 19:19:04] wurstgelee : yeah ofc.
[2016-11-23 19:19:06] trollboxer : thats why we have mining
[2016-11-23 19:19:39] wurstgelee : i like to smoke. i dont like smoke in the room. i dont like going outside when its cold.
[2016-11-23 19:19:47] wurstgelee : dont smoke is not an option
[2016-11-23 19:19:52] wurstgelee : thats the riddle
[2016-11-23 19:20:15] sleger : hole through the wall that you can plug
[2016-11-23 19:20:19] trollboxer : plexiglass cylinder over head for smoking, like a fishtank
[2016-11-23 19:20:20] wurstgelee : its way above 20°C in here ofc
[2016-11-23 19:20:34] wurstgelee : but window open a bit and cold outside. so no 25° ;)
[2016-11-23 19:20:55] wurstgelee : great ideas
[2016-11-23 19:20:58] trollboxer : e-cigarettes are great after e-sex
[2016-11-23 19:21:04] wurstgelee : should make a gofundme
[2016-11-23 19:30:37] martinium : Guess longs dont care about the funding coming up
[2016-11-23 19:31:34] mjones : nope
[2016-11-23 19:31:43] mjones : btc = moon = soon
[2016-11-23 19:32:10] lockhedge : they care too much, we are trading at >0.2% discount
[2016-11-23 19:41:05] leetsp33ch : IRC rulez
[2016-11-23 19:45:45] wurstgelee : i wonder if someone is seriously trying to sellwall zec futures?
[2016-11-23 19:47:35] trollboxer : those 50 qty have been there forever
[2016-11-23 19:48:04] arbitrage001 : good bet if less than 15 days to expiration
[2016-11-23 19:48:34] arbitrage001 : should consider zcash investors trying to lock in profit here also
[2016-11-23 19:48:57] arbitrage001 : roger the cunt doing another round of pump and dump
[2016-11-23 19:49:25] trollboxer : he do other coins?
[2016-11-23 19:49:50] arbitrage001 : xmr the recent one
[2016-11-23 19:49:58] arbitrage001 : and zcash now
[2016-11-23 19:50:04] arbitrage001 : not to mention in the past
[2016-11-23 19:50:10] arbitrage001 : mtgox, bitfinex
[2016-11-23 19:50:17] trollboxer : didnt know
[2016-11-23 19:50:22] arbitrage001 : has been wrong so far every time
[2016-11-23 19:50:26] arbitrage001 : except zcash
[2016-11-23 19:50:35] arbitrage001 : and finex
[2016-11-23 19:50:45] trollboxer : bitpay
[2016-11-23 19:51:46] arbitrage001 : and the drama he has with okc
[2016-11-23 19:55:50] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/801513380926341120 ?
[2016-11-23 19:56:45] trollboxer : eth, lets make ummutibility mutable again
[2016-11-23 20:02:47] mjones : no wonder etc is dumping
[2016-11-23 20:03:12] mjones : someone shorted everything they could on bitmex
[2016-11-23 20:04:55] dasdfasdf : mjones: ?
[2016-11-23 20:05:04] mjones : etc having network issues
[2016-11-23 20:05:08] wurstgelee : mjones: i shorted, but only 5k
[2016-11-23 20:05:23] wurstgelee : i read that finex tweet 2 mins after it was posted
[2016-11-23 20:05:28] wurstgelee : insta-short
[2016-11-23 20:05:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 20:05:44] mjones : spread too big on etc for me to play
[2016-11-23 20:05:44] wurstgelee : those 13 mins ago
[2016-11-23 20:05:51] wurstgelee : nope..but that news...
[2016-11-23 20:06:44] mjones : etc dumped hard 53 minutes ago on polo and hasnt moved since
[2016-11-23 20:06:56] wurstgelee : dunno if it dumps much, but i assume it wont pump at least
[2016-11-23 20:06:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 20:07:07] wurstgelee : mjones: yep
[2016-11-23 20:07:42] wurstgelee : zcash going for it again
[2016-11-23 20:09:05] wurstgelee : new 24h high would be nice now
[2016-11-23 20:09:36] mjones : someone is trying. see if they can get everyone else on polo to join in
[2016-11-23 20:10:30] arbitrage001 : pointless to pump
[2016-11-23 20:10:39] wurstgelee : mjones: could be accumulation too tho
[2016-11-23 20:10:40] arbitrage001 : rather have traders pump on expire date
[2016-11-23 20:11:04] arbitrage001 : pump to 1btc on dec 30th would be nice
[2016-11-23 20:11:05] wurstgelee : remember? zec launch pump kind was unseen before...
[2016-11-23 20:11:23] arbitrage001 : pumping to 1btc is kind of pointless if no rekt
[2016-11-23 20:11:58] wurstgelee : this is different than other coins which have public icos. whales who bought all those shitloads of coins over the last days HAVE to pump fast because of the rapidly increasing supply
[2016-11-23 20:12:03] wurstgelee : patience doesnt work
[2016-11-23 20:12:09] wurstgelee : so doesnt slow accumulation
[2016-11-23 20:12:12] wurstgelee : for the same reason
[2016-11-23 20:12:18] mjones : that's my thinking too
[2016-11-23 20:12:24] wurstgelee : so if u want an early pump, u have to accumulate aggressively
[2016-11-23 20:12:34] wurstgelee : and thats what we see the last almost 3 days here
[2016-11-23 20:12:35] arbitrage001 : the ico process is done in an anti pump and dump way
[2016-11-23 20:12:40] arbitrage001 : problem is
[2016-11-23 20:12:40] wurstgelee : no new high attemps, accumulation...
[2016-11-23 20:12:46] arbitrage001 : pumping wasnt done by investors
[2016-11-23 20:12:51] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: right.
[2016-11-23 20:12:54] arbitrage001 : just switcing it to traders
[2016-11-23 20:12:59] wurstgelee : so everyone started with 0.
[2016-11-23 20:13:16] wurstgelee : so agreesive accumulation is even more in order than when u can prebuy large stashes
[2016-11-23 20:13:27] wurstgelee : *aggressive
[2016-11-23 20:13:37] wurstgelee : .095 btw
[2016-11-23 20:13:43] wurstgelee : 0.096
[2016-11-23 20:14:01] arbitrage001 : i will be quite happy if it settle above 0.11
[2016-11-23 20:14:22] arbitrage001 : very very happy if it settle at 0.5
[2016-11-23 20:14:30] arbitrage001 : but that is unrealistic
[2016-11-23 20:14:39] wurstgelee : nah, .05 isnt enough
[2016-11-23 20:14:50] arbitrage001 : you mean 0.5
[2016-11-23 20:15:13] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-23 20:15:21] lopol : Just closed 70 zec short for profit
[2016-11-23 20:15:30] wurstgelee : this attempt seems more serious than the last puny ones
[2016-11-23 20:15:33] lopol : Seems like it has bottomed
[2016-11-23 20:15:39] wurstgelee : lopol: yep
[2016-11-23 20:15:41] prospecta : zec pamp
[2016-11-23 20:15:48] arbitrage001 : i am worry if shorters are closing
[2016-11-23 20:16:58] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: dont be. its gonna be glorious
[2016-11-23 20:17:07] wurstgelee : all those shorts opened in the mid 30s...
[2016-11-23 20:17:21] arbitrage001 : 4700 outstsanding contracts
[2016-11-23 20:17:25] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-23 20:17:34] wurstgelee : and the most below or ~ 40
[2016-11-23 20:17:35] wurstgelee : by far
[2016-11-23 20:17:38] arbitrage001 : when rally really begin, no one going to provide liquidity for them to close
[2016-11-23 20:17:52] trollboxer : could be a big spike
[2016-11-23 20:17:56] lopol : Why would you think that?
[2016-11-23 20:17:57] wurstgelee : 2k added in the last 2 days or so
[2016-11-23 20:18:00] trollboxer : i've never got to see a big liquidation before
[2016-11-23 20:18:04] lopol : Most shorts are in profit now
[2016-11-23 20:18:20] arbitrage001 : the 2k added below the 0.04 price
[2016-11-23 20:18:33] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-23 20:18:57] habibi : i guess guys u panic more then shorters :D
[2016-11-23 20:18:59] wurstgelee : wat a giant squeeze we will have :)
[2016-11-23 20:19:03] wurstgelee : lol no
[2016-11-23 20:19:05] wurstgelee : really not
[2016-11-23 20:19:37] trollboxer : the guy with the 50 orders is trying to hold the market down
[2016-11-23 20:19:47] wurstgelee : i am ~ 5% of my total zec profits here underwater atm
[2016-11-23 20:19:52] mjones : most zec opened below 0.07
[2016-11-23 20:19:53] habibi : trollboxer: he is simply opening shorts
[2016-11-23 20:20:01] wurstgelee : and i also made a lot with mining it
[2016-11-23 20:20:08] wurstgelee : so i am perfectly comfortable
[2016-11-23 20:20:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 5919 @ 759.88
[2016-11-23 20:20:38] trollboxer : The shorts are going to get sooo screwed in 5 weeks
[2016-11-23 20:21:04] arbitrage001 : trollboxer: nothing is certain
[2016-11-23 20:21:16] arbitrage001 : long or short are gamblers
[2016-11-23 20:22:13] trollboxer : yeah but the buyers can pump , the shorters can't
[2016-11-23 20:22:23] arbitrage001 : right
[2016-11-23 20:22:31] trollboxer : you can pump the underlying on polo, you can't short there
[2016-11-23 20:22:40] trollboxer : so the shorters are screwed on here
[2016-11-23 20:22:46] arbitrage001 : long have edge going in
[2016-11-23 20:23:01] arbitrage001 : but there are other uncertainty
[2016-11-23 20:23:26] arbitrage001 : also depend on price you go in
[2016-11-23 20:23:28] arbitrage001 : for instance
[2016-11-23 20:23:38] arbitrage001 : rapid 3btc is unlikely to profit
[2016-11-23 20:23:47] mjones : new zec high
[2016-11-23 20:24:02] wurstgelee : ding ding ding
[2016-11-23 20:24:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 20:24:11] arbitrage001 : but if it does reach 3btc in a highly unlikely event
[2016-11-23 20:24:18] wurstgelee : completely
[2016-11-23 20:24:18] arbitrage001 : i will profit even more
[2016-11-23 20:24:30] wurstgelee : adl way earlier probably
[2016-11-23 20:25:27] wurstgelee : i can already smell a hint of short squeeze
[2016-11-23 20:25:29] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-23 20:25:32] mjones : probably get adl around .1 to .15
[2016-11-23 20:25:52] wurstgelee : .03 to .048
[2016-11-23 20:26:05] wurstgelee : we didnt get to .03 tho right?
[2016-11-23 20:26:12] mjones : right
[2016-11-23 20:26:34] wurstgelee : .037?
[2016-11-23 20:26:47] mjones : yeah
[2016-11-23 20:27:04] wurstgelee : .035
[2016-11-23 20:27:08] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: bought 25 at 0.0375
[2016-11-23 20:27:25] arbitrage001 : then went to sleep
[2016-11-23 20:27:32] arbitrage001 : not sure if there is new low after
[2016-11-23 20:27:42] wurstgelee : is see some @ 0.03600
[2016-11-23 20:27:49] wurstgelee : scrolling down
[2016-11-23 20:27:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 20:28:29] anonymous789 : interesting gap here on this recent bounces. One thing i know about gaps, they almost always get closed shortly after
[2016-11-23 20:28:36] anonymous789 : bounce*
[2016-11-23 20:29:01] anonymous789 : i expect sharp drop at this level
[2016-11-23 20:29:11] anonymous789 : soon
[2016-11-23 20:29:11] mjones : only thing pumping Zec on here is you dont want to fail at doing it and end up with a ton more contracts
[2016-11-23 20:29:22] wurstgelee : lol no
[2016-11-23 20:29:41] wurstgelee : i have more than enoiugh
[2016-11-23 20:29:47] wurstgelee : unless it drops a lot ofc
[2016-11-23 20:32:14] mjones : btc climbing. didnt get in at $740 :(
[2016-11-23 20:32:18] wurstgelee : there is some fomo in the air over there @ polo....
[2016-11-23 20:32:34] wurstgelee : .0999
[2016-11-23 20:32:50] wurstgelee : .1
[2016-11-23 20:32:57] mjones : nice
[2016-11-23 20:34:01] mjones : remove your sell walls. lets pump on here
[2016-11-23 20:34:11] anonymous789 : mjones: should drop sharply soon i think
[2016-11-23 20:34:29] mjones : that 1 wall of 7 BTC should hold the market up
[2016-11-23 20:35:25] trollboxer : wow its going
[2016-11-23 20:36:29] mjones : knock out those 50 contract walls and this will be at 0.07 here
[2016-11-23 20:38:54] mjones : polo noobs dump at the first sign of profit
[2016-11-23 20:39:41] wurstgelee : wont stop the pump
[2016-11-23 20:40:06] wurstgelee : there is way more force behind it than a few noobs could stop if i am anywhere near correct with the acumulation thing
[2016-11-23 20:40:14] wurstgelee : *c
[2016-11-23 20:40:53] lopol : Perfect time to short after this zec pump
[2016-11-23 20:41:14] wurstgelee : lopol: how many longs do u want to get filled? 8)
[2016-11-23 20:41:24] mjones : short 0.05 and close at 0.037 soon
[2016-11-23 20:41:29] lopol : Short above 0.05 will make huge profits in December
[2016-11-23 20:42:11] lopol : Im happy I closed my short at 0.0485 at 5 btc profit
[2016-11-23 20:42:26] wurstgelee : lopol: so shorting 20% up from where "it bottomed" (your words) is a great idea?
[2016-11-23 20:42:28] lopol : New short after this pump
[2016-11-23 20:42:31] wurstgelee : oh ok
[2016-11-23 20:42:33] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-23 20:43:06] wurstgelee : well, depends on what u define as "this pump" i guess
[2016-11-23 20:43:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 20:43:21] mjones : btc pump should die at 5260 cny unless china whale goes crazy
[2016-11-23 20:44:03] lopol : May go over 0.15 but then will dump rapidly below 0.07 on polo because inflation
[2016-11-23 20:44:20] trollboxer : those sell walls are fake
[2016-11-23 20:44:26] trollboxer : they keep moving up and never getting filled
[2016-11-23 20:44:37] trollboxer : the 50qty
[2016-11-23 20:45:00] shiroe : shorted btc, longed xmr. double edge sword now, wish me luck
[2016-11-23 20:45:40] martinium : Btc faked out the shorts
[2016-11-23 20:46:02] wurstgelee : shorting btc ok...but right now?
[2016-11-23 20:46:10] wurstgelee : in this very minute?
[2016-11-23 20:47:38] trollboxer : looks like whoever was trying to surpress the zec market failed lol
[2016-11-23 20:47:51] trollboxer : .1 on polo, .5 here
[2016-11-23 20:47:54] wurstgelee : u cant suppress it here....
[2016-11-23 20:47:57] wurstgelee : it follows polo
[2016-11-23 20:48:07] wurstgelee : with some safety distance atm
[2016-11-23 20:48:09] wurstgelee : but it follows
[2016-11-23 20:48:16] wurstgelee : the distance will get smaller until dec 30
[2016-11-23 20:48:18] wurstgelee : simple as that
[2016-11-23 20:48:29] trollboxer : still hidden buy orders on the book
[2016-11-23 20:48:41] wurstgelee : like in every marlet?
[2016-11-23 20:48:46] wurstgelee : market
[2016-11-23 20:48:52] trollboxer : zec usually doesn't have them
[2016-11-23 20:48:59] wurstgelee : it always had them
[2016-11-23 20:49:06] wurstgelee : i know, because i always had them
[2016-11-23 20:49:25] Cryptlex : Why do I have a liquidation price with 1x margin on zec?
[2016-11-23 20:49:32] wurstgelee : Cryptlex: short?
[2016-11-23 20:49:42] Cryptlex : Long 1 contract
[2016-11-23 20:49:45] trollboxer : we've met the first short to get squeezed out :)
[2016-11-23 20:50:14] Cryptlex : odd even with 0.99x margin its still has liquidation price
[2016-11-23 20:50:21] wurstgelee : Cryptlex: thats weird
[2016-11-23 20:50:32] wurstgelee : switch to cross and back
[2016-11-23 20:50:38] wurstgelee : does that fix it?
[2016-11-23 20:51:10] Cryptlex : yea
[2016-11-23 20:51:16] Cryptlex : I guess im misunderstanding something
[2016-11-23 20:51:20] Cryptlex : =/
[2016-11-23 20:51:29] Mm bot : Zec reversal
[2016-11-23 20:51:56] Cryptlex : wurstgelee: thanks
[2016-11-23 20:52:38] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/mineZcash/status/801521654513987585
[2016-11-23 20:52:43] wurstgelee : thats why zec is awesome
[2016-11-23 20:53:14] Mm bot : Good luck with shorts goes. ZEC reversal has some legs to go
[2016-11-23 20:53:14] wurstgelee : u can send someone money and he doesnt know where it came from. or you can receive money and u dont know where it came from
[2016-11-23 20:53:46] wurstgelee : but u can prove that the money was received
[2016-11-23 20:53:46] Mm bot : s
[2016-11-23 20:53:49] wurstgelee : or that the money was sent
[2016-11-23 20:53:58] wurstgelee : try that with xmr ;)
[2016-11-23 20:55:23] lopol : Why was ZEC designed to have so huge inflation for several years?
[2016-11-23 20:55:32] lopol : Makes it very unattractive to buy
[2016-11-23 20:55:55] trollboxer : the details don't matter when its going to the moon baby
[2016-11-23 20:56:12] lopol : No it won't because onföstipn
[2016-11-23 20:56:18] lopol : Inflation
[2016-11-23 20:56:21] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/CarpeNoctom/status/801522508520374273
[2016-11-23 20:56:24] wurstgelee : for the cloud lovers here
[2016-11-23 20:56:40] wurstgelee : lopol: i really dont care for after the pump tbh
[2016-11-23 20:56:55] trollboxer : Is this where the cloud people come from?
[2016-11-23 20:56:58] wurstgelee : when my longs are closed, i immediately start to dgaf
[2016-11-23 20:57:32] mjones : lol xmr
[2016-11-23 20:57:35] wurstgelee : right now, its looking good
[2016-11-23 20:57:42] wurstgelee : thats all thats matters ;)
[2016-11-23 20:57:47] wurstgelee : *-s
[2016-11-23 20:58:09] mjones : xmr is just 1 big whale pool. whales just splashing around
[2016-11-23 20:58:14] prospecta : ^ bitmex savant wurst
[2016-11-23 20:59:01] rms : is there any way i can see outstanding zcash long and short contracts?
[2016-11-23 20:59:13] wurstgelee : prospecta: binging atm?
[2016-11-23 20:59:14] trollboxer : are you guys afraid trump will ban bitmex cause it sounds mexican?
[2016-11-23 20:59:24] wurstgelee : trollboxer: haha
[2016-11-23 20:59:37] wurstgelee : bitmex doesnt serve us customers iirc?
[2016-11-23 20:59:49] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-23 20:59:53] Nerve : Hahahahahaha
[2016-11-23 21:00:17] trollboxer : emperor trump only deals in absolutes
[2016-11-23 21:00:27] Nerve : What part of bitmex is mexican ? B or X ???
[2016-11-23 21:00:51] lockhedge : rms: open interest = 4816 contracts = longs = shorts
[2016-11-23 21:01:23] rms : thanks... where is that listed?
[2016-11-23 21:01:34] wurstgelee : More Details...
[2016-11-23 21:01:38] wurstgelee : left pane
[2016-11-23 21:01:45] rms : awesome, thanks
[2016-11-23 21:01:52] wurstgelee : yw
[2016-11-23 21:01:55] lockhedge : or mouse over open value
[2016-11-23 21:02:01] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-23 21:02:09] wurstgelee : why easy? we can do it complicated!
[2016-11-23 21:03:19] lopol : Well that was lame pump
[2016-11-23 21:03:26] trollboxer : which ticker
[2016-11-23 21:08:40] trollboxer : so zec could have went up to parity with spot and wiped out most of the shorts, with no limit, right?
[2016-11-23 21:08:48] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-23 21:09:00] trollboxer : then here it would price higher because the shorts had to close, right?
[2016-11-23 21:09:03] wurstgelee : could have gone to 100 btc (limit)
[2016-11-23 21:09:07] wurstgelee : theoretically
[2016-11-23 21:09:11] trollboxer : I know I should know this already, but i've only been here a few days
[2016-11-23 21:09:32] trollboxer : when they get liquidated, does rekt always say? does rekt every miss?
[2016-11-23 21:09:33] millrenrame1971 : Who knows exchange market for margin trading of zcash for hadge position?
[2016-11-23 21:09:55] trollboxer : does the hadge position involve slurpees?
[2016-11-23 21:09:59] trollboxer : hehe
[2016-11-23 21:10:23] wurstgelee : millrenrame1971: no margin elsewhere
[2016-11-23 21:10:32] wurstgelee : only futures here as well
[2016-11-23 21:10:47] millrenrame1971 : ok
[2016-11-23 21:10:51] shiroe : you can haz rekt.
[2016-11-23 21:11:00] wurstgelee : yes, lots of rekt here
[2016-11-23 21:11:22] trollboxer : I mean, how does rekt know when people are liquidated, is it a bot from the exchange direct?
[2016-11-23 21:12:16] CaptainDean : trollboxer: It's a bot who use the API to annonce the liquidation
[2016-11-23 21:12:23] CaptainDean : trollboxer: the information is public
[2016-11-23 21:12:31] trollboxer : lol i'm buying zec and hitting hidden orders priced 8 percent under
[2016-11-23 21:13:16] trollboxer : @captaindean thanks
[2016-11-23 21:14:48] trollboxer : the same 4 50qty sell orders have never been filled and just move up with price, that means he doesn't really want to sell right?
[2016-11-23 21:14:50] CaptainDean : trollboxer: np !
[2016-11-23 21:15:19] wurstgelee : trollboxer: thanks for the hint.
[2016-11-23 21:15:21] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 21:15:37] CaptainDean : trollboxer: probably an MM, selling X% over the price and buying x% under the price
[2016-11-23 21:15:43] wurstgelee : i removed the rest .05
[2016-11-23 21:15:47] wurstgelee : *sub .05
[2016-11-23 21:16:06] trollboxer : i'll help