This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2016-11-23 00:25:45] sleger : martinium: please make english sentence
[2016-11-23 00:25:46] habibi : thiago: thats means u have actually 1.14 btc on ur account
[2016-11-23 00:26:13] miramm1115 : thiago: leverage affects amount of margin assigned to the position, doesn't affect the profit at all. profit depends on position size only
[2016-11-23 00:26:34] thiago : habibi: I deposited actual 3.6 btc.. using 2.977
[2016-11-23 00:27:04] martinium : sleger: impossibru
[2016-11-23 00:27:06] habibi : thiago: :(
[2016-11-23 00:28:16] miramm1115 : thiago: you need bigger position size, buy 27000 contracts if you want 10x of your 3.6 btc
[2016-11-23 00:28:47] martinium : thiago: you are over leveraged
[2016-11-23 00:28:59] martinium : reduce your position size
[2016-11-23 00:29:14] rapidtrades : do nothing
[2016-11-23 00:29:15] martinium : you will get liquidated and wrecked
[2016-11-23 00:29:21] rapidtrades : maybe not
[2016-11-23 00:29:29] martinium : is he long?
[2016-11-23 00:29:31] habibi : thiago: try market orders! on 100x they works perfectly!
[2016-11-23 00:29:31] rapidtrades : life is short anyway
[2016-11-23 00:29:42] thiago : long
[2016-11-23 00:29:44] martinium : YOLO
[2016-11-23 00:30:18] thiago : Size: 2250, Margin: 0.3580 XBT (8.58x)
[2016-11-23 00:32:22] martinium : ah ok
[2016-11-23 00:32:32] martinium : low leverage
[2016-11-23 00:32:53] thiago : I just changed it from 100x to 10x..
[2016-11-23 00:33:54] thiago : I dont get why one can change leverage on without closing my position but yolo
[2016-11-23 00:34:21] sleger : just adjusts your stop
[2016-11-23 00:35:47] imabeast : any mods here?
[2016-11-23 00:36:10] imabeast : or if anybody can answer
[2016-11-23 00:36:14] BitMEX_Greg : imabeast: Hi whats up
[2016-11-23 00:36:26] martinium : BitMEX_Greg: ninja status
[2016-11-23 00:36:50] miramm1115 : thiago: as I said, changing leverage just changed amount of margin. your liquidation price changes but nothing else. use the calculator button on top of order controls, it will tell you everything you need to know about your PNL
[2016-11-23 00:36:57] imabeast : BitMEX_Greg: quick quesitons. when you you buy/sell usually a text box comes up to confirm your order... how do you turn that back on?
[2016-11-23 00:37:04] imabeast : BitMEX_Greg: i accidentally turned it off
[2016-11-23 00:37:22] BitMEX_Greg : Go here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2016-11-23 00:37:46] imabeast : ah thanks
[2016-11-23 00:40:34] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: is there any chance we can get a hover on the closed positions to see the all time cumulative on per instrument?
[2016-11-23 00:41:05] miramm1115 : thiago: 2250 size is very small, check the calculator. you'll make very little from such small position
[2016-11-23 00:41:27] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: You can see the Realised PnL for this I beleive
[2016-11-23 00:41:59] BitMEX_Sam : https://blog.bitmex.com/the-bitmex-anniversary-trading-awards/
[2016-11-23 00:42:02] BitMEX_Sam : Happy Two Years everyone.
[2016-11-23 00:42:20] BitMEX_Sam : We first flipped the switch on BitMEX on Nov 24, 2014.
[2016-11-23 00:42:45] thiago : miramm1115: Thank you. But it says: Size: 2250 Value: 2.991 XBT..
[2016-11-23 00:43:59] sleger : sounds right
[2016-11-23 00:45:36] mjones : cool. i'm going for the largest liquidation category
[2016-11-23 00:45:38] miramm1115 : thiago: you have $2250 position. if bitcoin goes up 10% you'll $225 minus fees and funding payments. I would assume you want to make more.
[2016-11-23 00:45:40] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: it shows the pnl since opening the position now, not the all time cumulative per instrument anymore. no?
[2016-11-23 00:45:50] miramm1115 : *you'll make
[2016-11-23 00:46:33] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: What if you hover over it
[2016-11-23 00:46:36] miramm1115 : even less than that in reality
[2016-11-23 00:46:50] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: Correct, all-time is no longer shown
[2016-11-23 00:47:08] thiago : miramm1115: Yes!.. but bitcoin goes up and down 2% max.. today at least.. so.. I made 37 usd.... whats wrong?
[2016-11-23 00:48:08] tb : happy 2 years, just getting my comment in the trollbox :)
[2016-11-23 00:48:09] trollboxer : Bitmex seems pretty awesome, great work !
[2016-11-23 00:48:14] miramm1115 : you deposited 3.6 btc and you are not using any leverage. you will make more going long on spot
[2016-11-23 00:49:36] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: thought so. so could you put a hover on the closed positions tab? or another column maybe?
[2016-11-23 00:50:15] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: Let me check with the rest of the team on that. In the meantime you can go to https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/User/User_getWalletSummary
[2016-11-23 00:51:31] mjones : need a btc dump to margin call some people so i can get back in
[2016-11-23 00:51:56] trollboxer : come play zec
[2016-11-23 00:52:41] mjones : i see zec is over 0.08 again
[2016-11-23 00:54:31] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, but I'll have to get into that some other time
[2016-11-23 00:55:19] BitMEX_Sam : Oh, it's pretty easy. Just click the `Try it out!` button. All numbers are in satoshis, so divide by `100,000,000`
[2016-11-23 00:58:00] mjones : zec pump here would shoot well over 0.1 if it happens quick
[2016-11-23 00:58:18] trollboxer : I'll buy some
[2016-11-23 00:58:32] mjones : me too
[2016-11-23 00:58:35] mjones : i'll put up a buy wall
[2016-11-23 00:58:45] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: I see
[2016-11-23 00:59:35] mjones : now i wait for someone to short the bottom and then trollboxer pumps
[2016-11-23 01:00:33] AudibleScience : Happy Trading Anniversary BitMEX!
[2016-11-23 01:00:50] G2 : Happy birthday!
[2016-11-23 01:01:04] habibi : Hey Hey Hoorah
[2016-11-23 01:03:15] miramm1115 : Great progress in those 2 years! I started here in June 2015 and it was very different!
[2016-11-23 01:03:37] imabeast : 2 bitcoins sounds lovely
[2016-11-23 01:04:10] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: If I am long 10 contracts and I sell 20 contracts will it reset the realised pnl when I go past 0?
[2016-11-23 01:05:42] miramm1115 : Big Spender award goes to the main MM, no questions about it. Yacht Club to sleger. You guys can fight for the Shoot The Moon award ;-)
[2016-11-23 01:09:20] trollboxer : Did we win?
[2016-11-23 01:12:40] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: No; only if your position is exactly 0 at some point
[2016-11-23 01:13:33] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: nice one, thanks.
[2016-11-23 01:18:32] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.8904 (vs. yesterday at 6.8779)
[2016-11-23 01:34:45] dasdfasdf : i am gonna work hard for that Shoot The Moon
[2016-11-23 01:53:49] mjones : zec going back up. i wonder how low bitmex will go before pumping
[2016-11-23 01:55:27] Julian : ZEC is dead on here
[2016-11-23 01:55:44] mjones : 4128 open contracts
[2016-11-23 01:56:17] Julian : it's a futures price it doesn't follow spot because the price is going sub $10
[2016-11-23 01:57:16] habibi : Julian: of course u wrong
[2016-11-23 02:00:28] XXXX : I will sell my house and buy ZEC if it goes to $10. It is time shorters wake up. the downtrend is over. ZEC will not break 0.07 on polo and once it stays at same price for about a week, premium here will evaporate and we will follow the spot price very closely.
[2016-11-23 02:03:00] Julian : nobody wants to hold Zcash, it has an ugly chart can't sustain or follow through on a pump, just goes down more and more. No reason why it should be worth more than Ethereum
[2016-11-23 02:03:19] mjones : just punked you all. thanks for buying my shorts
[2016-11-23 02:03:30] Julian : sure it will have these pumps now and then but nobody wants to be the last one out the door when it sells back down and makes new lows
[2016-11-23 02:03:48] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: are all employees allowed to trade?
[2016-11-23 02:04:09] habibi : Rado: only ninja ones
[2016-11-23 02:05:14] XXXX : Julian: you do know that ethereum has close to 100 million coins whereas ZCASH will always be limited to 21 million coins
[2016-11-23 02:06:00] Julian : Scarcity means nothing if the coin has no confidence by the public. It is DOA, failed launch. Ugly chart. Nobody wants to hold it.
[2016-11-23 02:06:34] Julian : It will be another Steem
[2016-11-23 02:07:02] Julian : eventually it will just go to the grave yard of failed altcoins with no liquidity and sitting about 1000 sat
[2016-11-23 02:08:00] mjones : it is hard getting people to use a coin. because how do you launch it making it fair
[2016-11-23 02:08:38] XBT_IHCT : Julian: you really think that will happen to steem? Do you know what's in the pipeline for steem?
[2016-11-23 02:09:45] Julian : people don't want these altcoins they want increase purchasing power which means more dollars or Bitcoins. The alts are just a means to an end
[2016-11-23 02:09:52] XXXX : Julian: you have no idea how pumps and whales operate in crypto. Well everyone has their own trading strategies. I wish you good luck. FYI I was long ZCASH from 0.1 BTC till 2 BTC prelaunch. Was shorting it till 0.05 BTC post launch. I am long again.
[2016-11-23 02:09:54] Julian : They are driven by novelty and hype
[2016-11-23 02:10:00] mjones : the anon coin needs a client that uses TOR or something better than TOR. have a market. PGP built in. xmr is in the hands of a few and they pumped it. doesnt mean it'll be the best
[2016-11-23 02:10:36] Jerry : and hype?
[2016-11-23 02:11:11] Jerry : I am onsidering longing Zcash too, but the supply is still rising up
[2016-11-23 02:12:24] trollboxer : Zcash has an actually novel new math behind it, and zooko invented the blake hashing system, and he's the leader
[2016-11-23 02:12:29] mjones : i believe it can pump again cause some big miners must be mining and buying. the whales with too much money
[2016-11-23 02:12:32] trollboxer : and they have funding to keep making it better
[2016-11-23 02:13:36] XXXX : All ZCASH has to do is hover between 0.07 and 0.1 BTC for shorters to get REKT. Shorters are still under the illusion that somehow polo price will catch up to bitmex's discounted price. It is actually the opposite. As 30 Dec approaches Bitmex's price will catch up to polo. which i believe will be anywhere between 0.07 and 0.1.
[2016-11-23 02:13:39] mjones : marketing then needs to be big
[2016-11-23 02:14:35] Dtrade16 : wow dump
[2016-11-23 02:14:43] mjones : btc short
[2016-11-23 02:15:47] Jerry : ZCash is still being mined and supply rising
[2016-11-23 02:16:14] Dtrade16 : what happen to btc
[2016-11-23 02:16:19] Dtrade16 : crazy
[2016-11-23 02:16:30] mjones : it was a test pump that'll 100% retrace
[2016-11-23 02:17:06] Dtrade16 : to what price you think?
[2016-11-23 02:17:10] Dtrade16 : Is it a good buy here?
[2016-11-23 02:17:24] XXXX : Jerry: I have invested thousands in ZCASH mining hardware. I was selling my mined ZCASH till 0.1 BTC. not selling anymore. Thats what all other miners are doing and will do if ZEC price dips any further.
[2016-11-23 02:17:27] mjones : btc http://i.imgur.com/phy1l1Y.png
[2016-11-23 02:17:34] Dtrade16 : It's had such strong support around this price
[2016-11-23 02:27:01] squb : v
[2016-11-23 02:27:23] squb : I go short it pumps, i go long it dumps, fuck this game
[2016-11-23 02:27:35] squb : don't gently caress it stick it up it's butt
[2016-11-23 02:27:52] trollboxer : which coin?
[2016-11-23 02:28:19] squb : lost 2 btc on btc
[2016-11-23 02:28:23] squb : in last 2 days
[2016-11-23 02:28:37] mjones : yeah squb. it's easy to trade when it is going one direction. i'd just wait for that. but good luck picking the right time
[2016-11-23 02:30:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 16 @ 0.010560
[2016-11-23 02:33:08] XXXX : I hate ETH from bottom of my heart but want it to go up as it is the bellwether for other alts. and I want alts to rise.One day.
[2016-11-23 02:33:21] Dtrade16 : squb: wow
[2016-11-23 02:33:34] Dtrade16 : squb: swing trade man it's easier lol
[2016-11-23 02:34:08] Dtrade16 : but shitcoins when they're doing sell when up
[2016-11-23 02:34:13] Dtrade16 : if not up don't sell
[2016-11-23 02:34:26] Dtrade16 : have tight stops in place
[2016-11-23 02:40:12] rapidtrades : 0.11 next funding? cmon guys u can do better
[2016-11-23 02:40:28] rapidtrades : FOMO like it's brexit
[2016-11-23 02:45:21] rapidtrades : and a new low for the Yuan today
[2016-11-23 02:45:59] rapidtrades : these assholes are gonna keep doing it until they cause a panic again
[2016-11-23 02:53:46] juchide : hello
[2016-11-23 02:53:51] juchide : wanna win 2 btc
[2016-11-23 02:55:35] BitMEX_Greg : juchide: Hi welcome to BitMEX
[2016-11-23 02:55:55] juchide : who knows why zec's futures retarding?
[2016-11-23 02:56:17] juchide : I mean against Polo's price (0.092)
[2016-11-23 02:57:11] mjones : polo price is too high. the traders just dont know it yet
[2016-11-23 02:59:07] Julian : Who can get rekt the most?
[2016-11-23 02:59:27] Julian : Does Bitmex make more money on liquidations than on ordinary market closes?
[2016-11-23 02:59:54] juchide : you say that when polo will be at 0.04 the futures show the same?
[2016-11-23 02:59:54] Mm bot : ZEC future should be within 30% +/- the spot price, as spot move lower it can move lower. 100% diff is retarted once liquidity picks up to the other side
[2016-11-23 02:59:57] jose : Julian: no
[2016-11-23 03:00:13] Julian : ok
[2016-11-23 03:00:16] BitMEX_Greg : Julian: We don't make money on liquidations. The extra funds from a liquidation go to the insurance fund
[2016-11-23 03:00:28] Julian : BitMEX_Greg: ok thanks
[2016-11-23 03:00:40] Julian : BitMEX_Greg: are bitmex staff allowed to trade on the exchange?
[2016-11-23 03:01:30] BitMEX_Greg : Julian: No we do not trade on the exchange
[2016-11-23 03:01:57] Julian : BitMEX_Greg: ok thanks
[2016-11-23 03:03:30] rapidtrades : €28,775,557 / €75,350,852 with 8 days to go
[2016-11-23 03:06:36] Bitcoinsallday : what is the minimum trade I can do on this exchange
[2016-11-23 03:06:42] rapidtrades : $1
[2016-11-23 03:07:16] habibi : actually 1 ripple - around 1000 sat
[2016-11-23 03:07:18] Bitcoinsallday : okay thanks rapidtrade
[2016-11-23 03:09:35] rapidtrades : habibi: don't try to act smart haniji
[2016-11-23 03:12:13] habibi : rapidtrades: of course, u the law guy here
[2016-11-23 03:38:51] Jason7189 : I think a pullback is probably in store for BTC.
[2016-11-23 03:40:20] mjones : that's what they want you to think.
[2016-11-23 03:45:28] martinium : mjones: I agree
[2016-11-23 03:45:39] ytaews : I think I have a browser bug, top right corner says funding is in 23h 14m (should be 7h 14m). I just changed timezone though... how do I get this to update?
[2016-11-23 03:49:17] rapidtrades : refresh
[2016-11-23 03:56:22] Rado : rapidtrades: sup man?
[2016-11-23 03:57:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 6000 @ 771.31
[2016-11-23 04:21:56] Dtrade16 : where are the flat earthers?
[2016-11-23 04:23:46] martinium : China devalued again
[2016-11-23 04:26:34] Dtrade16 : btc sale on polo
[2016-11-23 04:27:35] trollboxer : I think the flat earthers are on the side of the earth that is not round
[2016-11-23 04:28:42] Dtrade16 : lol
[2016-11-23 05:15:41] Cryptlex : is there no support email?
[2016-11-23 05:19:03] BitMEX_Wally : Cryptlex: support@bitmex.com
[2016-11-23 05:19:16] Cryptlex : Thanks
[2016-11-23 05:39:20] trollboxer : I saw the color of the same last trade in orderbook screen green when it was red in recent trades screen. Tried different browser and refresh. Should they always be the same color?
[2016-11-23 05:59:59] l3f : lol I told you kants to exit longs this morning
[2016-11-23 06:00:14] rapidtrades : dam this place is busy at 7 am
[2016-11-23 06:00:17] rapidtrades : like wtf
[2016-11-23 06:01:08] l3f : money never sleeps
[2016-11-23 06:01:12] l3f : rapidtrades:
[2016-11-23 06:01:32] rapidtrades : Yuan 6.92
[2016-11-23 06:02:56] l3f : haha bitstamp wtf
[2016-11-23 06:03:05] l3f : panic dump to 733
[2016-11-23 06:04:32] rapidtrades : wow rly
[2016-11-23 06:07:37] rapidtrades : gotta love when trading view craps out
[2016-11-23 06:07:47] rapidtrades : web-based charts ftw
[2016-11-23 06:09:32] slavo : aight
[2016-11-23 06:15:08] rapidtrades : i seee it...wtf was that on bitstamp
[2016-11-23 06:16:04] rapidtrades : smone dumped 600 btc
[2016-11-23 06:41:01] QuantFocus : 740 looks like it's holding support again
[2016-11-23 07:06:57] Tetsuo : QuantFocus: sure , Bitstamp has almost 19 coins support until 740
[2016-11-23 07:07:40] QuantFocus : didn't break through yet
[2016-11-23 07:08:10] Tetsuo : we hit 733, 2hours ago on Stamp
[2016-11-23 07:08:23] QuantFocus : and then what
[2016-11-23 07:16:06] Nerve : What a morning...
[2016-11-23 07:16:43] Nerve : Btw Happy Birthday Bitmex❗️❗️❗️
[2016-11-23 08:21:02] Alls : is there any sg trader here
[2016-11-23 08:21:36] Newmex : when is the bitmex giveaway?
[2016-11-23 08:23:33] zcashequalslambo : singapore?
[2016-11-23 08:24:27] BitMEX_Arthur : Newmex: Starts 24 Nov at 12:00 UTC
[2016-11-23 08:25:09] wurstgelee : giveaway?
[2016-11-23 08:25:34] wurstgelee : also, everyone ready for the zec shorts mc show? :p
[2016-11-23 08:25:48] rapidtrades : f*ck the shorts
[2016-11-23 08:26:16] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: giveaway?
[2016-11-23 08:29:19] QuantFocus : it's not so much a giveaway as it is a competition
[2016-11-23 08:29:36] rapidtrades : QuantFocus: ask him about the giveaway
[2016-11-23 08:29:45] QuantFocus : check the notifications
[2016-11-23 08:31:29] rapidtrades : take profit is the last one
[2016-11-23 08:33:02] laisee : Alls: in sg
[2016-11-23 08:35:07] bukeyi : @Alls another one here
[2016-11-23 08:37:27] rapidtrades : $741...we're effed
[2016-11-23 08:38:08] rapidtrades : holy crap it's crashing
[2016-11-23 08:38:18] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: no, we are not. we need that for zec liquidation show ;)
[2016-11-23 08:38:23] wurstgelee : its eprfect tbh
[2016-11-23 08:38:27] wurstgelee : *perfect
[2016-11-23 08:38:49] rapidtrades : meanwhile new lows for Yuan
[2016-11-23 08:38:59] rapidtrades : weird as f
[2016-11-23 08:39:18] wurstgelee : 740 is down....
[2016-11-23 08:40:41] wurstgelee : longed btc here.
[2016-11-23 08:40:49] wurstgelee : worth a try ;)
[2016-11-23 08:40:54] rapidtrades : dude no
[2016-11-23 08:40:58] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-23 08:41:09] rapidtrades : i have a bad feeling about this
[2016-11-23 08:41:26] wurstgelee : scalp money is good money
[2016-11-23 08:45:02] Nerve : Is any suport at 740$ ?
[2016-11-23 08:45:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.003058
[2016-11-23 08:46:07] rapidtrades : it would be strange to dump while Yuan making new lows
[2016-11-23 08:46:19] rapidtrades : maybe chinamen know smth?
[2016-11-23 08:46:37] rapidtrades : 6.925
[2016-11-23 08:48:24] rapidtrades : 6.9270
[2016-11-23 08:57:09] wurstgelee : oops ;
[2016-11-23 08:57:21] wurstgelee : thanks to whoever helped to get out of my long attempt :p
[2016-11-23 09:01:41] Nerve : how down will go ?
[2016-11-23 09:03:20] Boontjie : Nerve: buy now
[2016-11-23 09:03:37] Boontjie : wurstgelee: it was rapid
[2016-11-23 09:04:54] Nerve : it liq me
[2016-11-23 09:05:01] Tetsuo : good
[2016-11-23 09:05:18] Nerve : 60.000 contracts
[2016-11-23 09:07:22] Boontjie : rapidtrades: You assume that the weakening of the yuan is the only driver?
[2016-11-23 09:07:24] zanza : is network spam attack over?
[2016-11-23 09:13:40] zanza : India spam attack according to /r/Bitcoin https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5efu80/900_on_indian_exchanges/
[2016-11-23 09:16:48] Tetsuo : Will the chinese Bitcoin hardfork happen this year? Can anyone confirm?
[2016-11-23 09:18:48] zanza : too early to say
[2016-11-23 09:19:10] zanza : Segwit is only 25/95% activation now
[2016-11-23 09:19:24] Tetsuo : https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/the-status-of-the-hong-kong-hard-fork-an-update-1479843521
[2016-11-23 09:29:39] QuantFocus : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1690035.0
[2016-11-23 09:29:41] QuantFocus : i like it
[2016-11-23 09:38:02] shery : why bitcoin going down guys?
[2016-11-23 09:43:18] Tetsuo : @QuantFocus Stop supporting drugs or u will spend your life in prison!!
[2016-11-23 09:43:47] Tetsuo : shery: Bug in BTC protocol still not resolved!
[2016-11-23 09:45:19] Boontjie : Tetsuo: bug?
[2016-11-23 09:45:26] Boontjie : you must mean the blocksize debate
[2016-11-23 09:48:26] ButchPooch : shery: why should it go up?
[2016-11-23 09:53:02] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: paycoin v2
[2016-11-23 10:03:04] Bacon futures trader : btc going lower
[2016-11-23 10:04:33] miramm1115 : sell everything buy back in January
[2016-11-23 10:05:14] Alls : @bukeyi Singapore trader here just curious since this exchange is Bitcoin trade only where do you all get your coin from? Coinhako seems to be the best?
[2016-11-23 10:07:13] Bacon futures trader : Get an account on an exchange and make a fiat wire transfer
[2016-11-23 10:08:19] Alls : Yea I am doing that using coinhako fee is @ 0.90%, want to see if there is any other alternative
[2016-11-23 10:17:01] Bacon futures trader : Coinbase is ok
[2016-11-23 10:18:57] miramm1115 : Alls: www.itbit.com accepts SGD bank transfers, not sure if GIRO / FAST is supported though
[2016-11-23 10:19:31] Alls : I see thanks will look into it
[2016-11-23 10:24:38] anonymous789 : lower highs + broke uptrend line on the hourly, this thing going down for the short term i'd have to guess
[2016-11-23 10:25:01] anonymous789 : target 725 maybe
[2016-11-23 10:25:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1000 @ 83770
[2016-11-23 10:27:00] anonymous789 : lower highs are significant though meaning it could break the support at 725
[2016-11-23 10:27:06] bukeyi : Alls: Yeah like the others are saying
[2016-11-23 10:27:13] anonymous789 : if it does get there
[2016-11-23 10:28:22] laisee : Alls: Coinbase ok for SG, but their mobile app is a bit buggy
[2016-11-23 10:34:13] Tetsuo : IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD FOR BTC!!!!!!
[2016-11-23 10:34:29] Alls : How much is the fee for purchase? Cause currently coinhako is ok for me just that I want to see if there is cheaper.alternative for buying/selling fee
[2016-11-23 10:39:19] anonymous789 : Tetsuo: any analysis?
[2016-11-23 10:40:04] anonymous789 : or just FUD?
[2016-11-23 10:45:36] Tetsuo : i could FUD look like analysis and analysis look like FUD
[2016-11-23 10:46:08] Tetsuo : what´s the point of sharing analysis here?
[2016-11-23 10:46:50] Tetsuo : in the end everyone is just talkin their book (99%)
[2016-11-23 10:47:45] Tetsuo : only noobs use TA from others for their decisions
[2016-11-23 10:48:54] anonymous789 : it's just a good talking point...
[2016-11-23 10:49:05] Tetsuo : true : - )
[2016-11-23 10:49:18] anonymous789 : you can't say all hell is breaking loose without some kind of analysis, you're just looking like a desperado then
[2016-11-23 10:50:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 440 @ 753.99
[2016-11-23 10:50:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 7100 @ 753.04
[2016-11-23 10:51:15] Tetsuo : okkoin quarterlys and western exchanges never made a new high sine june 2016, that´s pretty important for me
[2016-11-23 10:51:40] wurstgelee : < 5150 -> hell
[2016-11-23 10:51:41] wurstgelee : imo
[2016-11-23 10:51:58] wurstgelee : 5140 mebbe
[2016-11-23 10:52:13] Tetsuo : also chinese whales will use the blocksize unsafety for one last megacrash before we go to a new ATH
[2016-11-23 10:52:54] anonymous789 : 725 is where the uptrend line is, if it breaks through that then there will be some mega rekt i think
[2016-11-23 10:53:54] aethlios : hold the line.....
[2016-11-23 10:54:04] anonymous789 : hold the door?
[2016-11-23 10:54:10] anonymous789 : hodor
[2016-11-23 10:54:13] Tetsuo : hold onto your shorts
[2016-11-23 10:54:25] anonymous789 : Tetsuo: good one :D
[2016-11-23 10:55:03] Tetsuo : XMR will probably profit most if BTC should really crash
[2016-11-23 10:55:17] anonymous789 : i think ETH will do well too
[2016-11-23 10:55:25] anonymous789 : <-- invested in ETH long term
[2016-11-23 10:56:33] zcashequalslambo : btc is not crashingh
[2016-11-23 10:57:14] anonymous789 : i think a lot of people also don't factor in there is a point where, when BTC starts mooning, alts initially sell-off as people buy into btc but eventually, new money comes in and pushes alts up
[2016-11-23 10:57:36] anonymous789 : as people look to diversify and capitalise on btc's rise and the fall of alts
[2016-11-23 10:58:03] anonymous789 : so i expect if btc does look to start mooning above that infamous 1200+ level, eth will initialy sell off, and then make new highs
[2016-11-23 11:05:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 6666 @ 752.63
[2016-11-23 11:06:09] miramm1115 : sell everything, buy back in January
[2016-11-23 11:06:26] Tetsuo : miramm1115: +1
[2016-11-23 11:06:49] anonymous789 : miramm1115: correction, sell everything or go short :P
[2016-11-23 11:07:04] miramm1115 : no, just sell and take a break
[2016-11-23 11:07:17] anonymous789 : pfft day traders don't take a break
[2016-11-23 11:08:35] Tetsuo : wonder how formerly #3 okk contracts holder feels now, when he lost 800 BTC due to the short squeeze yesterday....
[2016-11-23 11:13:52] zanza : goes with the territory
[2016-11-23 11:15:56] Bacon futures trader : btc still in a bull market
[2016-11-23 11:16:49] Tetsuo : Bacon futures trader: in my timezone it's dumping
[2016-11-23 11:17:44] Bacon futures trader : lol sure mate
[2016-11-23 11:17:47] Boontjie : btc noooo
[2016-11-23 11:17:57] Boontjie : arise chicken arise
[2016-11-23 11:20:20] zcashequalslambo : i learned that cryptotraders are a quite retareded, especially when i saw those 1+ btc price on zec
[2016-11-23 11:20:28] zcashequalslambo : so im not even worried about btc price
[2016-11-23 11:20:49] zcashequalslambo : its going to go up
[2016-11-23 11:20:59] zcashequalslambo : and monero is going to drop below 0.008
[2016-11-23 11:21:07] zcashequalslambo : its just logical
[2016-11-23 11:21:30] zcashequalslambo : there are no news behind this crazy pump on monero
[2016-11-23 11:21:37] zcashequalslambo : its just like with zec
[2016-11-23 11:21:57] zcashequalslambo : i mean who hthe hell buys random alt for 8-9 btc?
[2016-11-23 11:22:27] CapitalGains : They're just playing the bigger fool game
[2016-11-23 11:22:41] CapitalGains : It can be quite fun
[2016-11-23 11:23:14] CapitalGains : I bought 0.0001 ZEC at a price of 150 BTC and sold it at a price of 250 BTC during the first 10 minutes ZEC was on the market.
[2016-11-23 11:23:54] zcashequalslambo : this literally shows what im talking about
[2016-11-23 11:24:00] zcashequalslambo : there was someone who bought it at 250
[2016-11-23 11:24:32] CapitalGains : But yes, in the end of the day all the players at that range are fools
[2016-11-23 11:24:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 114 @ 0.010472
[2016-11-23 11:24:35] habibi : zcashequalslambo: this is what is happening all the time, on every bull shitcoin market, just diffrent numbers at the end
[2016-11-23 11:24:42] CapitalGains : The trick is to make sure you're not the biggest fool
[2016-11-23 11:26:41] jeeburns : alts looking poised, etc biggest x gains imo. not very liquid here though
[2016-11-23 11:28:44] mispiezas3@gmail.com : Btc continues up ¿
[2016-11-23 11:37:15] Tetsuo : mispiezas3@gmail.com: 5300 if you´re lucky, after that it´s DOOM
[2016-11-23 11:47:16] hanniba : 建立空间里看；
[2016-11-23 12:00:21] +1 : BTC up? BTC down?
[2016-11-23 12:01:56] zcashequalslambo : btc up
[2016-11-23 12:01:58] zcashequalslambo : monero down
[2016-11-23 12:04:20] +1 : Interesting. But, only Arthur knows.
[2016-11-23 12:10:21] +1 : REKT: Hi! Where is the XBTUSD market heading?
[2016-11-23 12:11:08] anonymous789 : +1: are you a speculator or investor?
[2016-11-23 12:12:38] +1 : anonymous789: I want to make money.
[2016-11-23 12:13:32] anonymous789 : ...
[2016-11-23 12:13:47] anonymous789 : +1: are you a speculator or an investor...?
[2016-11-23 12:15:53] +1 : anonymous789: I enjoyed reading your analysis these past days. Eventhough, I did lose money. LOL
[2016-11-23 12:16:17] anonymous789 : aah, i guess you're using too much leverage
[2016-11-23 12:16:43] lopol : Anyone else having problems with lagging bitmex?
[2016-11-23 12:16:59] anonymous789 : or you haven't got the balls to hold for long enough to make profitzz
[2016-11-23 12:17:32] lopol : It is weird that on incognito mode there is no lagging but on normal chrome it lags very much
[2016-11-23 12:17:49] anonymous789 : fine on my computer
[2016-11-23 12:17:53] +1 : anonymous789: Yeah, I did.
[2016-11-23 12:18:24] +1 : lopol: You should clear your cache/cookies
[2016-11-23 12:19:04] anonymous789 : +1: i haven't lost a trade in 2 weeks, so, basically since i started trading on bitmex. Lost some money right at the start shorting ZEC at 1.3 btc/zec but that was just a gamble, figured it would never be worth that much, how wrong i was lol
[2016-11-23 12:20:10] anonymous789 : +1: anyway i've got a short position at 739, expecting more downside, could be wrong, would be looking to close my short at loss at 755
[2016-11-23 12:21:03] anonymous789 : but lower highs, lower lows on the hourly, suggests short term downside
[2016-11-23 12:21:14] anonymous789 : looking to close in profit <725
[2016-11-23 12:21:20] +1 : anonymous789: At what leverage are you on?
[2016-11-23 12:22:01] anonymous789 : depends, if i think i've got in at a very good entry i'll go for 10x and if i think the position is a bit more risky i'll go 5x
[2016-11-23 12:23:40] +1 : anonymous789: Didn't get the chance on ZEC. Went out for a movie forgetting to buy and then it shoots to the moon.
[2016-11-23 12:24:06] anonymous789 : i don't mind like a 10-15% loss, but try and profit >20% if i can
[2016-11-23 12:25:30] +1 : anonymous789: ROE?
[2016-11-23 12:25:39] anonymous789 : roe?
[2016-11-23 12:26:35] +1 : return on equity
[2016-11-23 12:28:02] anonymous789 : something like 80% or so
[2016-11-23 12:28:54] +1 : anonymous789: Which part in the world are you?
[2016-11-23 12:29:02] anonymous789 : UK
[2016-11-23 12:29:53] anonymous789 : interesting, weekly looks like it's forming a cup and handle, the daily looks like it's forming a double top
[2016-11-23 12:30:14] anonymous789 : either way, both smell like downside to me in the short term
[2016-11-23 12:33:20] +1 : anonymous789: How low can it go?
[2016-11-23 12:33:42] +1 : 725?
[2016-11-23 12:34:46] anonymous789 : so basically, you should always do your own research, but anyway i normally trade the hourly as that gives a good short term target
[2016-11-23 12:35:14] anonymous789 : so yea i'd say hourly could get to 720ish where there will be some significant support
[2016-11-23 12:35:42] anonymous789 : if you're looking at the daily, however, it could correct all the way to around the 680 level
[2016-11-23 12:37:08] +1 : anonymous789: Yes, I realise need to do own research. And getting some analysis from fellow traders broaden the view.
[2016-11-23 12:37:10] anonymous789 : but like i said, i trade hourly, that gives me a good target for a few days. Daily is for people looking to swing trade maybe hold positions for weeks at a time
[2016-11-23 12:38:03] +1 : anonymous789: You trade full time?
[2016-11-23 12:38:32] anonymous789 : nah but i'm a programmer, so while i'm working i watch the markets
[2016-11-23 12:40:07] anonymous789 : interesting, it's about to break the downtrend
[2016-11-23 12:40:20] anonymous789 : on the 15min
[2016-11-23 12:40:40] +1 : anonymous789: That's good. What are you programming?
[2016-11-23 12:40:47] anonymous789 : java programmer
[2016-11-23 12:42:11] anonymous789 : anyways i'm afk for now
[2016-11-23 12:42:28] wurstgelee : if btc goes back up to 4300, we have a mini-V
[2016-11-23 12:43:30] +1 : wurstgelee: What's a mini-V?
[2016-11-23 12:43:55] wurstgelee : like a regular V but on a smaller timescale
[2016-11-23 12:43:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 12:45:20] +1 : wurstgelee: ahhh.. what's a regular V?
[2016-11-23 12:45:26] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-23 12:45:31] JamesPolo : ..
[2016-11-23 12:45:51] +1 : ?
[2016-11-23 12:46:05] wurstgelee : http://www.forex-tribe.com/V-Bottom.php
[2016-11-23 12:47:26] +1 : wurstgelee: thanks
[2016-11-23 12:47:33] wurstgelee : np
[2016-11-23 13:15:26] Groles : ZEC looks like it is in suspended animation today
[2016-11-23 13:23:36] Boontjie : it was animated?
[2016-11-23 13:24:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 200000 @ 0.00000923
[2016-11-23 13:25:23] Groles : It did move a little bit every day (downwards), but now it is frozen in the headlights!
[2016-11-23 13:35:35] Groles : I still can't quite work how the settlement price of ZECZ16 is going to double in 36d
[2016-11-23 13:38:19] sleger : double ?
[2016-11-23 13:41:46] Groles : Current index price is 0.0833, but last traded price was 0.0422
[2016-11-23 13:44:50] Boontjie : Groles: There is still time for the price to half
[2016-11-23 13:49:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.005220
[2016-11-23 13:52:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 266 @ 0.001089
[2016-11-23 13:55:58] +1 : ?
[2016-11-23 14:02:53] Groles : Boontjie: is there something that Bitmex will do to force the price to converge, or will it just happen through traders becoming more cautious closer to settlement?
[2016-11-23 14:08:00] Boontjie : Groles: The futures price will be equal to spot at settlement, if you buy now you still have a month of depreciation to go
[2016-11-23 14:08:42] Boontjie : If you buy at 0.04, then you are locking yourself in to that at settlement, if spot is 0,03 you are making a loss
[2016-11-23 14:08:58] Boontjie : (in a months time)
[2016-11-23 14:09:34] Boontjie : If you have actual ZEC I would recommend a hedge strategy
[2016-11-23 14:18:39] Boontjie : Groles: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/ZEC#Settlement From the Guide
[2016-11-23 14:18:55] Boontjie : Settlement > settle on the .ZECXBT30M Index Price
[2016-11-23 14:19:09] Boontjie : Latest value 0.0822267 > i.e. spot
[2016-11-23 14:20:03] Groles : Boontjie: I read it, but still clear as mud the mechanism that happens to *make* the price converge on spot! Thanks for trying to explain it to me though
[2016-11-23 14:20:36] Boontjie : Well they settle at spot. Irrespective of the actual prices
[2016-11-23 14:21:37] Boontjie : As we get closer to spot, the bots will drive the prices closer to spot. It will not make sense otherwise
[2016-11-23 14:22:21] Boontjie : So they force the guy that is long to settle at 0.08 and the guy that is short to settle at 0.08
[2016-11-23 14:22:47] Boontjie : So if you are short, you will start closing position as you get closer to settlement
[2016-11-23 14:22:57] Boontjie : In this case
[2016-11-23 14:23:15] Boontjie : Would you rather settle at 0.08 or close position at 0.05 in market
[2016-11-23 14:23:20] sleger : nobody has to start closing a position when settlement arrives
[2016-11-23 14:23:32] sleger : (before settlement as you are saying)
[2016-11-23 14:24:16] Boontjie : Yeah and this behaviour should drive price to spot
[2016-11-23 14:29:29] Rado : you guys waisting energy on ZEC
[2016-11-23 14:29:46] wurstgelee : nothing needs to "drive" it there,....it settles on spot. its a fact
[2016-11-23 14:30:01] Rado : wurstgelee: nope
[2016-11-23 14:30:04] sleger : yes... bontjie is day dreaming
[2016-11-23 14:30:08] Rado : settles on the mark price
[2016-11-23 14:30:17] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-11-23 14:30:20] sleger : mark=spot dummy
[2016-11-23 14:30:30] wurstgelee : TWAp of spot to be precise
[2016-11-23 14:30:32] Rado : mark is calculated based on spot
[2016-11-23 14:30:32] wurstgelee : but still spot
[2016-11-23 14:30:40] Rado : right
[2016-11-23 14:30:45] sleger : at settlement, mark=spot (twap as he said)
[2016-11-23 14:30:52] Rado : again stop talking about this
[2016-11-23 14:30:56] wurstgelee : no
[2016-11-23 14:31:00] wurstgelee : just starting :p
[2016-11-23 14:31:00] Rado : yes
[2016-11-23 14:31:03] Rado : lol
[2016-11-23 14:31:16] Rado : there is no money to be made in ZEC
[2016-11-23 14:31:19] Rado : BTC all the way
[2016-11-23 14:31:28] Rado : and shorting some shit coins
[2016-11-23 14:32:37] Rado : $735 might be support for now
[2016-11-23 14:38:41] martinium : BTC looks like its about to drop
[2016-11-23 14:38:46] martinium : lot of sell side activity
[2016-11-23 14:38:58] sleger : agreed
[2016-11-23 14:39:13] Rado : https://twitter.com/BKBrianKelly/status/801431677490855938
[2016-11-23 14:41:57] Rado : Gold fell again
[2016-11-23 14:42:10] Rado : Bonds might start to collapse
[2016-11-23 14:42:30] shiroe : 12hr houbi chart macd says itll fall down again..
[2016-11-23 14:48:02] zanza : 11xx gold wew
[2016-11-23 14:48:09] zanza : thank god I didn't buy that
[2016-11-23 14:48:11] Newmex : do shorters pay longers on perpetual atm
[2016-11-23 14:48:28] zanza : it is decided each 8 period who pays who
[2016-11-23 14:48:37] zanza : right now longs pay
[2016-11-23 14:48:46] Newmex : -.-
[2016-11-23 14:48:48] zanza : holy crap the dollar index
[2016-11-23 14:48:50] Newmex : of course they do
[2016-11-23 14:48:55] Newmex : lol
[2016-11-23 14:49:02] zanza : why did you ask then? :(
[2016-11-23 14:49:47] Rado : https://twitter.com/BKBrianKelly/status/801436898023587841
[2016-11-23 14:49:58] zanza : EUR plunging to almsot record lo
[2016-11-23 14:50:49] Bacon futures trader : Only 80 pips away from 2015 low
[2016-11-23 14:51:10] zanza : once it breaks that, look out below
[2016-11-23 14:51:16] Newmex : well i wasnt sure..but not surprised with the answer. every time the rate is pretty high. its longers who pay
[2016-11-23 14:51:34] zanza : look to the left, it will show "Funding Rate .1140%"
[2016-11-23 14:51:49] zanza : + value means long pay short
[2016-11-23 14:51:52] zanza : +
[2016-11-23 14:55:28] Rado : 735 support for now as I said
[2016-11-23 14:56:30] martinium : buyers came in to defend it
[2016-11-23 14:56:41] martinium : lets see who has more firepower
[2016-11-23 15:00:54] sq : looks like a gd place to short eh
[2016-11-23 15:04:05] Bacon futures trader : Bulls need to hold 5180 cny
[2016-11-23 15:04:08] Rado : sq: then short
[2016-11-23 15:04:14] Bacon futures trader : otherwise back to 5k fam
[2016-11-23 15:04:47] rapidtrades : holy crap
[2016-11-23 15:04:54] rapidtrades : Yuan at 6.945
[2016-11-23 15:04:58] rapidtrades : bitcoin down
[2016-11-23 15:05:07] rapidtrades : we're doomed
[2016-11-23 15:05:10] sq : rapidtrades: yeh kinda strange ya
[2016-11-23 15:05:49] jeeburns : ETC just gonna stagnate on this exchange? Avoiding it next time, way behind actual price. Or maybe it's a bargin now and will catch up soon
[2016-11-23 15:06:27] sleger : its a futures so eventually it has to catch up...
[2016-11-23 15:06:31] Rado : rapidtrades: It's just to show you that the correlation is not 100%
[2016-11-23 15:06:36] martinium : wonder who keeps buying the support
[2016-11-23 15:06:43] rapidtrades : Rado: im worried
[2016-11-23 15:06:48] rapidtrades : chinamen know smth
[2016-11-23 15:08:09] martinium : or it can be a delayed reaction
[2016-11-23 15:08:11] Rado : rapidtrades: USD is moving hard. Also bonds have been falling
[2016-11-23 15:08:32] Rado : something is definitely going to happen
[2016-11-23 15:08:33] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-11-23 15:08:39] Rado : also Gold falling
[2016-11-23 15:08:54] rapidtrades : i meant smth bitcoin-specific
[2016-11-23 15:08:54] zanza : China and India trying to buy bitcoin, but network full :(
[2016-11-23 15:08:55] Rado : I would say BTC is holding much better compared to Gold and Binds
[2016-11-23 15:09:28] Rado : rapidtrades: what would be bitcoin specific?
[2016-11-23 15:09:30] Bacon futures trader : Watch eurusd weekly
[2016-11-23 15:09:36] Rado : Segwit not etting accepted?
[2016-11-23 15:09:40] Rado : getting
[2016-11-23 15:09:57] rapidtrades : Rado: making those restrictions official?
[2016-11-23 15:10:23] Rado : maybe
[2016-11-23 15:10:40] Rado : that would be bad
[2016-11-23 15:10:49] martinium : bitmain supposedly supporting BU
[2016-11-23 15:10:54] Rado : I hate that Chinese government has that kind of power over BTC