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[2016-11-21 22:39:28] trollboxer : what do you call it when your accurate model starts losing money, and continues to do so till you have to find a new job. whatever that is called
[2016-11-21 22:39:58] j8 : and it's not about being right every time, it's about having a small but significant edge
[2016-11-21 22:40:11] trollboxer : remember these guys? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management
[2016-11-21 22:40:30] rapidtrades : trollboxer: i think once u run 50-100 models the blow up risk is smaller
[2016-11-21 22:40:46] rapidtrades : LTCM was arb only shop afaik
[2016-11-21 22:41:22] laisee : reversion to mean trader
[2016-11-21 22:41:28] trollboxer : http://blog.alphaarchitect.com/2015/09/08/warren-buffett-ltcm-blind-spots-leverage-taking-unnecessary-risks/#gs.USDFeTM
[2016-11-21 22:42:27] rapidtrades : that's a good site
[2016-11-21 22:45:17] rapidtrades : losing 20% in few days says their leverage is on the high side
[2016-11-21 22:45:43] laisee : ltcm beleived their model worked in every market and forgot size goes against u when market decides to let u fail. also the CEO was an asshole unliked by wall st.
[2016-11-21 22:46:15] laisee : "when genius failed" is a great book on finance and hubris.
[2016-11-21 22:46:27] trollboxer : proof of political good will algo, lol
[2016-11-21 22:49:19] trollboxer : So that wall on finex got eaten?
[2016-11-21 22:50:06] wurstgelee : do u see that kind of volume there?
[2016-11-21 22:52:04] trollboxer : I'm gonna assume that means it was pulled :)
[2016-11-21 22:55:14] rapidtrades : man this bitcoin thing just doesn't wanna go down
[2016-11-21 23:07:27] Rado : rapidtrades: why do you want it to go down?
[2016-11-21 23:08:05] Rado : wurstgelee: you buying XMR again?
[2016-11-21 23:08:17] Rado : you should only short it when it pops :-)
[2016-11-21 23:10:12] wurstgelee : Rado: still have half my long
[2016-11-21 23:10:23] wurstgelee : only gonna rebuy if it goes below 90
[2016-11-21 23:11:53] wurstgelee : also die buttcoin, die
[2016-11-21 23:11:54] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-21 23:12:46] wurstgelee : Rado: *pop*
[2016-11-21 23:12:47] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-21 23:26:02] BitMEX_Sam : Great news everyone, we're finally back on TradingView: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=BITMEX%3AXBTUSD
[2016-11-21 23:29:27] sleger : does that allow me to withdraw my ZEC ?
[2016-11-21 23:31:35] BitMEX_Sam : Once you discover the hidden BitMEX easter egg, anything can happen
[2016-11-22 00:02:46] mjones : zec wow sqeeze!!
[2016-11-22 00:11:16] wurstgelee : btc starting to look shitty
[2016-11-22 00:11:41] wurstgelee : also wtf, who s having fun with zec here?
[2016-11-22 00:12:20] sleger : Open Interest 3,116
[2016-11-22 00:12:40] wurstgelee : damn, i am below 10% again
[2016-11-22 00:16:55] mjones : someone guessing zec = bottom
[2016-11-22 00:26:57] wurstgelee : not too off
[2016-11-22 00:27:08] wurstgelee : would be ~ $25 if my math is correct
[2016-11-22 00:27:19] wurstgelee : vc paid $15
[2016-11-22 00:27:53] wurstgelee : well, more like $30
[2016-11-22 00:28:36] wurstgelee : oh, thats not too far off first mc's now
[2016-11-22 00:28:45] trollboxer : what's $25?
[2016-11-22 00:28:51] wurstgelee : 0.04
[2016-11-22 00:28:59] wurstgelee : its 30 tho
[2016-11-22 00:29:04] wurstgelee : ~
[2016-11-22 00:32:23] mjones : 0.05 will see zec shorts called
[2016-11-22 00:32:37] trollboxer : what happens when they get called?
[2016-11-22 00:32:55] wurstgelee : nothing. people will close longs into them i guess
[2016-11-22 00:32:56] mjones : longs close in profit
[2016-11-22 00:33:07] wurstgelee : or longs get adled if we move up further
[2016-11-22 00:34:12] trollboxer : how often does this happen?
[2016-11-22 00:34:29] wurstgelee : liquidations?
[2016-11-22 00:34:35] wurstgelee : u witnessed quite a lot of them here i guess
[2016-11-22 00:34:35] trollboxer : yes
[2016-11-22 00:34:44] wurstgelee : everything REKT is announcing
[2016-11-22 00:36:19] wurstgelee : open interest 3,134
[2016-11-22 00:38:29] wurstgelee : 3163
[2016-11-22 00:44:24] chuvancito : where ?
[2016-11-22 00:45:05] trollboxer : ZEC
[2016-11-22 00:45:48] chuvancito : the price is rocket :(
[2016-11-22 00:47:19] trollboxer : So if REKT isn't messaging, then no one has been liquidated?
[2016-11-22 00:50:11] laisee : trollboxer: u have to pay extra tor your liquidation to be announced by REKT
[2016-11-22 00:50:35] trollboxer : does he accept wowgold?
[2016-11-22 00:51:46] laisee : only BTC, payable in contracts listed on Bitmex
[2016-11-22 00:56:01] mjones : btc nooo bounce
[2016-11-22 00:56:52] chuvancito : how much?
[2016-11-22 00:58:21] wurstgelee : much
[2016-11-22 01:00:35] Josephus : http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/gates-foundation-gives-factom-grant-deploy-blockchain-medical-records
[2016-11-22 01:10:07] wurstgelee : wow
[2016-11-22 01:10:25] wurstgelee : Open Interest 3,753
[2016-11-22 01:10:26] chuvancito : wtf ?
[2016-11-22 01:10:32] wurstgelee : it's escalating a bit now
[2016-11-22 01:12:27] trollboxer : zec you mean?
[2016-11-22 01:15:24] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-22 01:15:42] wurstgelee : anyways, gnight :)
[2016-11-22 01:16:34] laisee : wurstgelee: ciao
[2016-11-22 01:23:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 51 @ 0.009481
[2016-11-22 01:26:25] Dtrade16 : you guys long shitcoins?
[2016-11-22 01:26:27] Dtrade16 : anyone?
[2016-11-22 01:26:28] wurstgelee : X FUCKING XMR
[2016-11-22 01:26:33] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-22 01:26:40] wurstgelee : one x too much
[2016-11-22 01:26:45] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-22 01:26:47] wurstgelee : i did
[2016-11-22 01:26:55] Dtrade16 : only xmr?
[2016-11-22 01:27:03] trollboxer : shitcoins can make more money, because you don't have to lift so much dead weight, like if you tried to pump 12Billion USD of bitcoin price
[2016-11-22 01:27:07] wurstgelee : fct, zec, xrp
[2016-11-22 01:27:29] wurstgelee : also holding dgb, lisk and prob something else
[2016-11-22 01:28:01] wurstgelee : oh right, zec
[2016-11-22 01:28:08] wurstgelee : bought some 72-75
[2016-11-22 01:28:27] wurstgelee : lol xmr
[2016-11-22 01:28:29] wurstgelee : really
[2016-11-22 01:28:33] trollboxer : the price should come up as the contract gets older right, on zec?
[2016-11-22 01:28:40] trollboxer : in 38 days?
[2016-11-22 01:28:54] wurstgelee : it will settle @ polo price on dec 30th
[2016-11-22 01:29:04] trollboxer : its 72 cents on spot and only .38 here
[2016-11-22 01:29:13] trollboxer : move the decimal place
[2016-11-22 01:29:16] wurstgelee : spread will get smaller over time
[2016-11-22 01:30:37] trollboxer : so open interest has to be an even number right? because there's always a buyer and seller of a contract?
[2016-11-22 01:34:00] trollboxer : ETC has 29605 contracts, thats an odd number
[2016-11-22 01:35:02] trollboxer : nevermind, I figured it out
[2016-11-22 01:37:03] mjones : wtf i leave for 35 minutes and zec at 0.038 again
[2016-11-22 01:37:22] mjones : 3748 open contracts now lol. did someone short into everything
[2016-11-22 01:38:07] mjones : battle of the whales.
[2016-11-22 01:38:32] trollboxer : how can you tell if the contracts open is high or low, is there a chart?
[2016-11-22 01:39:16] Dtrade16 : I bought the wrong shitcoin then eth etc
[2016-11-22 01:39:17] Dtrade16 : lool
[2016-11-22 01:40:29] koufeng2016 : who can speak chinese
[2016-11-22 01:40:49] trollboxer : Why is the open interest number different from the orderbook total?
[2016-11-22 01:40:52] trollboxer : hidden orders?
[2016-11-22 01:41:24] Dtrade16 : btc taking a dump on 6h chart
[2016-11-22 01:42:06] jose : trollboxer: open interest is the number of contracts opened on 1 side
[2016-11-22 01:43:35] trollboxer : this says open interest always moves by 2? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_interest
[2016-11-22 01:44:57] trollboxer : I'm stupid, they just used a bad example
[2016-11-22 01:46:47] trollboxer : thanks jose
[2016-11-22 01:51:10] Dtrade16 : Guys any analysis on btc price?
[2016-11-22 01:51:51] Dtrade16 : hearing irs cracking down on coinbase
[2016-11-22 01:52:18] Dtrade16 : Not good. I think that will move the price down a little or a lot even
[2016-11-22 01:52:21] Dtrade16 : ?
[2016-11-22 01:52:38] koufeng2016 : yes
[2016-11-22 01:53:24] mjones : irs just submitted some shit and coinbase will see if they need to obey or not
[2016-11-22 01:54:49] mjones : zec doesnt look good either direction. good luck getting out of a large position
[2016-11-22 01:57:37] rapidtrades : People’s Bank of China sets yuan reference rate at 6.8779 (vs. yesterday at 6.8985)
[2016-11-22 01:58:29] rapidtrades : offshore not buying it yet, still at 6.9030
[2016-11-22 02:02:29] koufeng2016 : why nobody talk about BTC?
[2016-11-22 02:03:55] trollboxer : I say BTC to the moon
[2016-11-22 02:06:53] trollboxer : I don't understand what you mean mjones
[2016-11-22 02:07:05] trollboxer : how can it be bad both directions?
[2016-11-22 02:20:32] mjones : zec pumping
[2016-11-22 02:21:17] mjones : there is little orders showing on zec in both directions. if you got 500 ZEC and need to close it's impossible if price is moving fast
[2016-11-22 02:31:09] mjones : zec up 6% on polo
[2016-11-22 02:58:23] Dtrade16 : wow shitcoin eth actually went up a tad
[2016-11-22 02:58:45] trollboxer : eth moon!
[2016-11-22 03:00:49] mjones : hardfork just happen?
[2016-11-22 03:02:42] mjones : wow eth almost new high
[2016-11-22 03:03:08] mjones : xmr pumping too
[2016-11-22 03:06:53] Dtrade16 : guys does anyone know what breakeven price on polo means?
[2016-11-22 03:07:02] Dtrade16 : seems like a great mystery
[2016-11-22 03:07:35] Dtrade16 : does it include buying and selling fee?
[2016-11-22 03:13:15] mjones : start of new xmr uptrend right now
[2016-11-22 03:15:06] Rado : mjones: a new uptrend?
[2016-11-22 03:15:12] Rado : based on what?
[2016-11-22 03:15:44] mjones : new money according to some people
[2016-11-22 03:16:06] mjones : someone else taking a large position since price is at the bottom
[2016-11-22 03:16:50] Rado : mjones: who is someone
[2016-11-22 03:16:51] mjones : xmr sell side on polo is weak. wont take much to pump xmr
[2016-11-22 03:17:07] mjones : Rado: Iconomi
[2016-11-22 03:17:32] mjones : Coinomi
[2016-11-22 03:17:33] Rado : isn't iconomi based on ETH?
[2016-11-22 03:17:37] mjones : i dunno
[2016-11-22 03:17:44] mjones : just reading some shit in the ethtrader reddit daily thread
[2016-11-22 03:19:12] mjones : xmr http://i.imgur.com/KHEXeZO.png
[2016-11-22 03:19:52] Rado : mjones: looks like it is at resistance
[2016-11-22 03:19:55] Rado : based on this chart
[2016-11-22 03:20:17] mjones : but look at the orderbook on polo for xmr and it looks like it's about to pop to the upside
[2016-11-22 03:20:55] Rado : I guess I am not seeing what you are
[2016-11-22 03:21:01] Rado : looking at the order book
[2016-11-22 03:21:06] Rado : seem balanced on both sides
[2016-11-22 03:21:30] Rado : I think this price is already up and might correct or consolidate
[2016-11-22 03:21:33] mjones : xmr orderbook http://i.imgur.com/cfFBb8H.png
[2016-11-22 03:21:39] Rado : after that it might have another push
[2016-11-22 03:21:58] mjones : 200 BTC to break 0.01
[2016-11-22 03:22:23] Rado : right
[2016-11-22 03:22:38] mjones : 350 btc to break 0.0093
[2016-11-22 03:24:10] mjones : bbands on the 3 day, 6 hour are tight
[2016-11-22 03:25:22] jose : ETH Hard fork in less than 13h, to the moon please !
[2016-11-22 03:25:33] mjones : volume way down too
[2016-11-22 03:30:50] mjones : xmr 0.01
[2016-11-22 03:31:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.010098
[2016-11-22 03:31:07] Rado : going up on not much volume
[2016-11-22 03:31:08] Rado : as you said
[2016-11-22 03:31:43] mjones : no sellers left. someone was buying up millions of XMR below 0.01
[2016-11-22 03:31:54] mjones : only 13,000,000 XMR total. 1 whale group owns most coins i bet
[2016-11-22 03:33:57] mjones : eth new recent high too
[2016-11-22 03:42:38] mjones : eth market depth on both sides is weak. could get interesting
[2016-11-22 03:43:38] Rado : I think XMR is topping here
[2016-11-22 03:43:47] Rado : very short term timeframe
[2016-11-22 03:44:33] Rado : wow
[2016-11-22 03:44:40] Rado : someone is bidding a lot
[2016-11-22 03:44:42] mjones : both xmr and eth a few hundred BTC and they are off
[2016-11-22 03:44:53] mjones : zec too
[2016-11-22 03:45:01] mjones : and if BTC dumps more. the alts will take off
[2016-11-22 03:45:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 98 @ 0.010657
[2016-11-22 03:47:47] mjones : arg should have fomo xmr 0.0098
[2016-11-22 03:48:19] Rado : yeah
[2016-11-22 03:48:28] chuvancito : REKT: why ?
[2016-11-22 03:49:32] javierstone : btc dumping?
[2016-11-22 03:50:23] mjones : surprised no one has 300 BTC to get ETH started
[2016-11-22 03:56:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.047500
[2016-11-22 03:56:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.047500
[2016-11-22 03:58:55] mjones : zec train starting
[2016-11-22 03:59:11] trollboxer : I thought zec was boring lol
[2016-11-22 03:59:40] mjones : it was till 1800 contracts opened in the 0.04 to 0.07 range or so
[2016-11-22 04:01:42] trollboxer : I bet the reason ZEC is pumping is because the IRS news with coinbase
[2016-11-22 04:02:11] mjones : fuck btc. closed my long at the bottom
[2016-11-22 04:04:53] Rado : ZEC pumping
[2016-11-22 04:04:55] Rado : it's red
[2016-11-22 04:05:00] Rado : that's not pumping
[2016-11-22 04:05:06] Rado : XMR is pumping
[2016-11-22 04:06:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.010364
[2016-11-22 04:09:16] trollboxer : how could a long get liquidated in xmr when its just gone up 15 percent?
[2016-11-22 04:09:36] mjones : 0.011 to 0.0103 big fall
[2016-11-22 04:09:43] mjones : dont fomo the top
[2016-11-22 04:12:27] mjones : take my eye off xmr and miss a great entry
[2016-11-22 04:16:48] chuvancito : zec analisys ??
[2016-11-22 04:17:04] mjones : stay far away
[2016-11-22 04:18:19] Dtrade16 : is eth done guys?
[2016-11-22 04:18:31] Dtrade16 : hold sell?
[2016-11-22 04:19:04] mjones : hold and see if 0.014 breaks
[2016-11-22 04:20:02] Dtrade16 : usd?
[2016-11-22 04:20:11] Dtrade16 : I'm not selling for btc
[2016-11-22 04:20:18] Dtrade16 : so what is that 10 usd?
[2016-11-22 04:20:37] mjones : damn dunno
[2016-11-22 04:20:57] mjones : still got 11 hours before hardfork so anything can happen
[2016-11-22 04:21:16] Dtrade16 : 10.24 acc to google
[2016-11-22 04:21:18] Dtrade16 : The hardfork is tom?
[2016-11-22 04:21:24] Dtrade16 : Is that why it's up?
[2016-11-22 04:22:33] mjones : it's barely up
[2016-11-22 04:22:43] mjones : could say it went up because btc went down
[2016-11-22 04:22:59] javierstone : people are doing weird stuff with monero
[2016-11-22 04:23:32] javierstone : this reddit post seems fake https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5e8qis/coinomi_xmr_build_release_tomorrow/?st=ivszsf4q&sh=14b21f7b
[2016-11-22 04:23:35] mjones : moonero = highly manipulative
[2016-11-22 04:24:55] javierstone : i fukt myself so bad longing it just now
[2016-11-22 04:25:02] javierstone : so shameful on my part
[2016-11-22 04:25:04] Dtrade16 : it's up 3-4 % that's a lot
[2016-11-22 04:25:26] javierstone : markets are crazy right now
[2016-11-22 04:25:47] mjones : for ETH i suppose
[2016-11-22 04:26:22] mjones : but after falling so much i'd expect bigger move upwards
[2016-11-22 04:26:37] javierstone : ya i was tempted to buy some again
[2016-11-22 04:26:57] mjones : eth 0.024 to 0.0123 and a bounce to 0.0133
[2016-11-22 04:33:28] XXXX : I hope you peeps shorting zec have enough margin. I would hate to get adled for a meager 100% profit.
[2016-11-22 04:33:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 495000 @ 0.00000991
[2016-11-22 04:36:31] trollboxer : xxxx do you think zec is going to go up or down?
[2016-11-22 04:37:45] trollboxer : I don't know what adled means
[2016-11-22 04:38:12] XXXX : trollboxer: of course up. Investors paid $15 for each zec. Bitcoin was 300 usd that time. So in btc terms 0.04 btc per zec is what roger ver et.al. paid.
[2016-11-22 04:39:02] chuvancito : XXXX: but, you are talking in a long term, rigth ?
[2016-11-22 04:39:40] XXXX : trollboxer: adled means. If you short at 0.04 and only have funds to cover your shorts till 0.08 then i or someone else who is long have to force close it so that your balance does not go negative.
[2016-11-22 04:39:44] chuvancito : i think he is asking for a short term forecast
[2016-11-22 04:40:08] trollboxer : I get it.
[2016-11-22 04:40:22] XXXX : chuvancito: i am talking 1 month timeframe.
[2016-11-22 04:44:56] trollboxer : What happens if eth fork goes bad, will people still be able to close their longs here? or will the slippage cause no one to get paid?
[2016-11-22 04:47:38] trollboxer : Maybe they'll just be another ETH classic, like an ethclassic 2?
[2016-11-22 04:47:51] trollboxer : so 3 eths if fork doesn't work right?
[2016-11-22 04:48:23] XXXX : trollboxer: eth is good in terms of liquidity so as long as you are not expecting very tight spreads you should be fine. i mean expect +- 5% variance from poloniex price.
[2016-11-22 04:49:22] trollboxer : thanks xxxx
[2016-11-22 04:55:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12 @ 737.96
[2016-11-22 05:01:40] rapidtrades : is ETH rly doing another hard fork?
[2016-11-22 05:01:50] rapidtrades : this is getting ridiculous
[2016-11-22 05:02:39] Dtrade16 : eth pump over looks like
[2016-11-22 05:05:21] jose : rapidtrades: yes in 12h ETH is going to fork again to stop the attack
[2016-11-22 05:09:18] rapidtrades : quite a large gap onshore/offshore today
[2016-11-22 05:09:33] rapidtrades : offshore ain't buying what PBOC is selling
[2016-11-22 05:14:18] rms : eth is really doing another hard fork
[2016-11-22 05:14:31] rms : what's one more at this point?
[2016-11-22 05:14:37] jose : https://fork.codetract.io/
[2016-11-22 05:16:41] rapidtrades : sleger: your boy Vitalik is doing another fork...comments?
[2016-11-22 05:18:26] werral : eth will hf until it has reached its final form
[2016-11-22 05:18:52] rapidtrades : a pile of shit?
[2016-11-22 05:18:54] trollboxer : hf?
[2016-11-22 05:19:49] jose : trollboxer: have fun
[2016-11-22 05:21:05] trollboxer : what have been the most epic liquidations that have happened on here?
[2016-11-22 05:22:18] jose : trollboxer: on XBT 3 month futures contracts, it can go to the moon or to the ground
[2016-11-22 05:22:28] jose : trollboxer: or ZEC at launch
[2016-11-22 05:22:59] trollboxer : how much money did people lose in zec?
[2016-11-22 05:23:32] jose : 1 contract was 2.5 BTC
[2016-11-22 05:23:47] trollboxer : how many contracts did people take out?'
[2016-11-22 05:24:33] jose : not so many, but on XBTUSD i have seen half a million beeing liquidated
[2016-11-22 05:24:44] trollboxer : ouch
[2016-11-22 05:28:42] Dtrade16 : how does eth react to these hard forks?
[2016-11-22 05:28:48] Dtrade16 : Obviously the price goes up right?
[2016-11-22 05:34:24] jose : Dtrade16: in theory
[2016-11-22 05:39:29] Dtrade16 : ok
[2016-11-22 05:40:53] rms : eth is trading at about as low as it has been since it started its rise
[2016-11-22 05:41:27] rms : for you to think it will go much lower, i think you need to think it's hopeless, but there's a lot of resistance around .012 which was the bottom of the crash after the DAO hack
[2016-11-22 05:59:13] zanza : Bitmex you should program a GUI market marker interface directly into the site, would be very cool
[2016-11-22 05:59:30] zanza : for people who want to setup custom MM strategies, but don't know python or scripting language
[2016-11-22 06:21:27] zanza : maybe it could even be a paid / subscription service
[2016-11-22 06:22:45] Rado : zanza: not going to happen
[2016-11-22 06:22:56] zanza : thanks Arthur
[2016-11-22 06:24:52] wurstgelee : gday trollbox
[2016-11-22 06:25:01] trollboxer : why does huge volume appear and then disspear from the orderbook far enough from the recent trades that it doesn't get hit?
[2016-11-22 06:25:03] wurstgelee : also thank you xmr :)
[2016-11-22 06:40:35] Rado : wurstgelee: nice buy on XMR
[2016-11-22 06:41:04] wurstgelee : thanks. :) went even a lot better than expected
[2016-11-22 06:41:40] wurstgelee : *as in: didnt expect to close @ ~ .011 while sleeping
[2016-11-22 06:41:51] Rado : Did you sell?
[2016-11-22 06:41:58] Rado : Oh
[2016-11-22 06:42:02] Rado : Cool
[2016-11-22 06:42:20] wurstgelee : hoping for a little, low-volume retrace to restock
[2016-11-22 06:44:46] Rado : What price are you thinking?
[2016-11-22 06:45:40] wurstgelee : mids 90s somewhere iif i am lucky
[2016-11-22 06:45:44] wurstgelee : *-s
[2016-11-22 06:46:07] wurstgelee : will start to rebuy some below .01 i guess
[2016-11-22 06:49:04] wurstgelee : some buys are set, bbl
[2016-11-22 07:44:14] billyboy402 : i just got a pay out , that was early , has the withdraw time change ?
[2016-11-22 07:50:04] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: No, we just did an early payout for a whale
[2016-11-22 07:50:15] BitMEX_Wally : Next payout will be at 13:00 UTC as usual
[2016-11-22 07:50:31] billyboy402 : thanks i appreciate the service
[2016-11-22 07:53:05] BitMEX_Wally : Although, anyone who puts a 0.0003 fee or less might have to wait a few days for their withdrawal transaction to go into a block
[2016-11-22 07:53:17] BitMEX_Wally : Mempool is at 20 megabytes: https://bitcoinfees.github.io
[2016-11-22 07:53:53] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Wally: do you use sendmany to make a single payout ?
[2016-11-22 07:54:22] BitMEX_Wally : Apocalyptic: No, at the moment each withdrawal is a separate transaction
[2016-11-22 08:07:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.009967
[2016-11-22 08:20:13] chaunceylee : Does Zec still has Limit Up / Limit down?
[2016-11-22 08:34:21] wurstgelee : chaunceylee: no
[2016-11-22 08:35:05] chaunceylee : from when
[2016-11-22 08:35:50] wurstgelee : this question?
[2016-11-22 08:36:30] chaunceylee : yean, when the limits were cancled
[2016-11-22 08:37:08] wurstgelee : read the latest annoucnements. its somehwere there
[2016-11-22 08:37:40] wurstgelee : end of october i guess
[2016-11-22 08:38:36] chaunceylee : tks, lookking for relative post
[2016-11-22 08:39:09] chaunceylee : related
[2016-11-22 08:42:47] chaunceylee : Important Changes to Zcash Futures Fair Price Marking November 2, 11:15 PM Effective Friday 4th November 12:00 UTC, the December Zcash Futures Contract, ZECZ16, will move from Last Price marking to Fair Price marking. The Index Price will reference the spot ZEC/BTC Poloniex price.
[2016-11-22 08:42:52] chaunceylee : found
[2016-11-22 08:49:12] Bacon futures trader : zec going to 0.07
[2016-11-22 08:54:57] chaunceylee : zec z16 is near 0.039
[2016-11-22 08:55:16] chaunceylee : who knows why always half of the zec price
[2016-11-22 08:55:37] chaunceylee : how does that happen
[2016-11-22 08:56:25] chaunceylee : Bacon futures trader: do you know why
[2016-11-22 09:01:08] wurstgelee : die btc
[2016-11-22 09:04:16] shery : wurstgelee: you shorted?
[2016-11-22 09:09:46] wurstgelee : nope, longed alts
[2016-11-22 09:16:25] anonymous789 : such boring action on btc
[2016-11-22 09:22:36] chaunceylee : volume = 9 n/a， what does n/a mean
[2016-11-22 09:26:40] BitMEX_Wally : N/A usually means Not Available. Where are you seeing this?
[2016-11-22 09:27:00] chaunceylee : chart
[2016-11-22 09:27:21] chaunceylee : below Open price, Hgh ,low and close
[2016-11-22 09:27:40] chaunceylee : volume =9 n/a
[2016-11-22 09:27:55] chaunceylee : for example volume=9 n/a
[2016-11-22 09:29:01] chaunceylee : click + , and i can see volume
[2016-11-22 09:29:33] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, this trading library is from Trading View so I am not sure what it means
[2016-11-22 09:29:40] BitMEX_Wally : The volume quoted is in number of contracts and that looks correct
[2016-11-22 09:30:15] chaunceylee : n/a means number of contracts ?
[2016-11-22 09:30:30] BitMEX_Wally : volume 9 means 9 contracts traded
[2016-11-22 09:30:44] BitMEX_Wally : In that candle
[2016-11-22 09:31:17] chaunceylee : and /a means ?
[2016-11-22 09:31:18] BitMEX_Wally : The `N/A` is probably meant to show a currency code, but there is no currency code for 'contracts'
[2016-11-22 09:31:34] BitMEX_Wally : Hence 'not available'
[2016-11-22 09:31:39] chaunceylee : ao , i see
[2016-11-22 09:32:26] chaunceylee : there may be an error here: in zec guide part
[2016-11-22 09:32:37] chaunceylee : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/ZEC
[2016-11-22 09:32:46] chaunceylee : chinese version
[2016-11-22 09:33:22] BitMEX_Wally : chaunceylee: I'll get my Chinese colleagues to have a look. What's the error?
[2016-11-22 09:33:29] chaunceylee : 由于目前 ZEC 没有一个流动的现货市场，该合约的标记方法采用最新成交价格。 为了防止市场操纵，ZEC 合约将有涨停／跌停价格。 涨停跌停价格是前一个收盘价涨跌25%的价格。 例如，如果收盘价是0.100，涨停价将是 0.123，跌停价将是 0.075。
[2016-11-22 09:33:42] chaunceylee : 涨停价将是 0.123
[2016-11-22 09:33:58] chaunceylee : it should be 0.125, not 0.123
[2016-11-22 09:34:18] chaunceylee : a small error
[2016-11-22 09:34:50] chaunceylee : The Limit Up / Limit Down is set at a price equal to one maintenance margin (25%) away from the Last Price. For instance, if the Last Price were 0.100, the Limit Up would be 0.125 and the Limit Down would be 0.075.
[2016-11-22 09:35:01] chaunceylee : this is right version
[2016-11-22 09:35:30] BitMEX_Jinming : chaunceylee:不好意思，这是翻译错误，我们会尽快改正，谢谢。
[2016-11-22 09:36:25] chaunceylee : 小笔误而已！碰巧看到了
[2016-11-22 09:37:06] BitMEX_Jinming : chaunceylee: 另外，该合约目前已经没有涨跌限制了，我们会尽快更新文档。
[2016-11-22 09:37:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.010478
[2016-11-22 09:37:36] chaunceylee : BitMEX_Jinming: 辛苦了
[2016-11-22 09:37:52] BitMEX_Jinming : chaunceylee: :)
[2016-11-22 09:38:03] chaunceylee : thanks ,too
[2016-11-22 09:45:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 4100 @ 754.87
[2016-11-22 09:50:07] wurstgelee : zec bouncing
[2016-11-22 09:50:30] wurstgelee : @ Apocalyptic: thats why i bought. since u asked ;)
[2016-11-22 10:13:03] wurstgelee : zec to 1 btc! oO
[2016-11-22 10:24:41] DareDevil : ETH major dump incomming?
[2016-11-22 10:29:53] wurstgelee : first ZEC shrots rekt soon
[2016-11-22 10:29:57] wurstgelee : *shorts
[2016-11-22 10:33:43] thomaskikansha : bots buying zec? some volume kicking in
[2016-11-22 10:39:31] DareDevil : there goes ETH
[2016-11-22 10:42:31] wurstgelee : nope, it doesnt
[2016-11-22 10:42:38] wurstgelee : going down on no volume. its likely a dip
[2016-11-22 11:08:40] rms : huge hidden zec sell order is gone now
[2016-11-22 11:08:50] rms : so it can start going up to catch up to the spot increase
[2016-11-22 11:08:57] Mm bot : Not sure about this ZEC marking logic here
[2016-11-22 11:12:29] lopol : ZEC inflation is still imcreasing
[2016-11-22 11:12:43] lopol : Only a fool would long now
[2016-11-22 11:13:39] habibi : lopol: tell me better where is ur short liquidation target
[2016-11-22 11:14:07] lopol : What?
[2016-11-22 11:14:08] wurstgelee : habibi: :D :D :D
[2016-11-22 11:14:34] wurstgelee : lopol: translated: how many contracts did u short and wehre is ur liquidation price?
[2016-11-22 11:14:49] rms : .04 on the BTC is what the zcash investors effectively paid, so that price is a real resistance for the futures market
[2016-11-22 11:15:14] mjones : wow more zec contracts open and price doesnt move much
[2016-11-22 11:15:25] lopol : I have been shorting since beginning and made 10 btc profit
[2016-11-22 11:15:37] wurstgelee : rms: so .04 btc is $15 dollar now?
[2016-11-22 11:15:40] lopol : Never been so easy money than shorting ZEC
[2016-11-22 11:16:13] wurstgelee : lopol: go on, 213 bids available @ 44
[2016-11-22 11:16:18] wurstgelee : easy money
[2016-11-22 11:16:30] lopol : It is
[2016-11-22 11:16:36] wurstgelee : go on, short then
[2016-11-22 11:16:40] thomaskikansha : 0.1 inc
[2016-11-22 11:16:47] lopol : You don't understand?
[2016-11-22 11:17:01] wurstgelee : lopol: i do. i just didnt read. :p
[2016-11-22 11:17:06] lopol : I have been shorting since zec launched
[2016-11-22 11:17:09] wurstgelee : yep ;)
[2016-11-22 11:17:34] wurstgelee : and i have been longing since weeks prior to launch
[2016-11-22 11:18:45] lopol : Stupid people suffer from losses
[2016-11-22 11:19:34] wurstgelee : they probably do. i don't .
[2016-11-22 11:21:24] rms : no one eating into that zec buy wall...
[2016-11-22 11:21:28] rms : easy money, right? :D
[2016-11-22 11:22:31] rms : or someone did and it got pulled
[2016-11-22 11:22:43] thomaskikansha : there it goes
[2016-11-22 11:22:52] habibi : Anyway some real math - i guess 360k at the day of 31 dec, at price of 0.01 btc - cap@3600 btc. Way too little. At 0.05 cap@18 000 btc. At 0.1 btc - 36 000 btc maybe a little too much
[2016-11-22 11:23:06] thomaskikansha : 100 sell
[2016-11-22 11:30:43] lopol : Realistic market cap in 31 Dec is 5 million so price is below 0.03
[2016-11-22 11:30:59] habibi : lopol: so u shorted the bottom :D
[2016-11-22 11:32:03] lopol : I shorted from 0.5 if you think that was bottom you are pretty stupid ?
[2016-11-22 11:32:21] habibi : :( ouch
[2016-11-22 11:33:53] lopol : When this pump bursts price will be below 0.07 in Polo today
[2016-11-22 11:36:13] wurstgelee : habibi: your math. i did the same ;)
[2016-11-22 11:38:20] XXXX : Zec will not reach 0.05 on polo before 30 dec
[2016-11-22 11:45:40] wurstgelee : are u saying it will stay above?
[2016-11-22 11:45:51] wurstgelee : or it will be less than .05
[2016-11-22 11:45:52] wurstgelee : ?
[2016-11-22 12:01:21] Bacon futures trader : This is liquidation season boys
[2016-11-22 12:38:27] sharp : bitmex support here?
[2016-11-22 12:44:52] BitMEX_Jinming : sharp: Hello
[2016-11-22 12:45:32] sharp : BitMEX_Jinming: my btc withd. issue.. 12h waiting.. :/
[2016-11-22 12:46:30] sharp : wanted to play something..but this is terrible.. eh
[2016-11-22 12:46:55] BitMEX_Jinming : sharp: when did you submit the request? note that the bitcoin network is very busy at the moment.
[2016-11-22 12:47:16] iefken : my withdrawel is only due in 13 minutes :p
[2016-11-22 12:47:32] iefken : isnt it send in a batch?
[2016-11-22 12:47:48] sharp : BitMEX_Jinming: I recieved the mail.. but nothing happened.. around 12hrs.. :/
[2016-11-22 12:48:24] BitMEX_Jinming : sharp: we process all withdrawal requests once a day at 13 UTC which is in 12 minutes.
[2016-11-22 12:50:29] sharp : sent 10-12 hrs ago.. I dunno ..ok
[2016-11-22 12:52:08] BitMEX_Jinming : sharp: `https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#When-are-Bitcoin-withdrawals-processed`
[2016-11-22 12:53:33] sharp : ok thanks..
[2016-11-22 13:09:13] BitMEX_Wally : sharp: Are you talking about a withdrawal or a deposit? I do not see any withdrawal request from your account for 2 weeks
[2016-11-22 13:09:36] sharp : damn sorry .. deposit.. my bad..
[2016-11-22 13:10:11] sharp : BitMEX_Wally:
[2016-11-22 13:10:33] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, I see 2 pending deposits, they are still unconfirmed by the Bitcoin network
[2016-11-22 13:11:39] y1uy : BitMEX_Wally: for some reason it says that my withdrawal was completed, BUT when i check recepient address i didnt receive anything
[2016-11-22 13:14:04] BitMEX_Wally : y1uy: You just got an email?
[2016-11-22 13:14:42] y1uy : BitMEX_Wally: yes
[2016-11-22 13:14:46] mjones : 40,000 transactions backlog right now
[2016-11-22 13:15:08] y1uy : BitMEX_Wally: nvm, i think i found the issue
[2016-11-22 13:15:46] y1uy : BitMEX_Wally: all good
[2016-11-22 13:16:08] BitMEX_Wally : y1uy: Cool
[2016-11-22 13:17:34] BitMEX_Wally : sharp: Unfortunately it looks like a very low fee (12000 Satoshi per kilobyte) was attached to your transactions so it might take a while for the Bitcoin network to confirm them. Once it gets one confirmation it will be credited to your account.
[2016-11-22 13:27:55] rapidtrades : mjones: yeah it's shit
[2016-11-22 13:28:08] mjones : indeed
[2016-11-22 13:28:14] rapidtrades : pure manure
[2016-11-22 13:29:25] mjones : nice eth market buy
[2016-11-22 13:29:38] rapidtrades : tnx i meant to do that
[2016-11-22 13:30:13] mjones : hardfork pump almost here
[2016-11-22 13:34:41] wurstgelee : mjones: i am long :p
[2016-11-22 13:35:08] dasdfasdf : target?
[2016-11-22 13:35:16] mjones : 0.014
[2016-11-22 14:05:03] mjones : 4250 zec contracts and still 0.04
[2016-11-22 14:05:42] mjones : 5 weeks till settlement too
[2016-11-22 14:12:52] lopol : 0,03 is price that ZEC will probaly be in polo in 5 weeks
[2016-11-22 14:13:08] lopol : There is still some profit to make to short it here form 0.04
[2016-11-22 14:14:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1140 @ 738.79
[2016-11-22 14:14:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 739.42
[2016-11-22 14:16:34] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-22 14:16:42] wurstgelee : btc killing the alt party
[2016-11-22 14:16:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1180 @ 740.70
[2016-11-22 14:17:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 200 @ 765.94
[2016-11-22 14:17:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 100 @ 766.60
[2016-11-22 14:17:07] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-11-22 14:18:45] mjones : Btc pumps after i close my long
[2016-11-22 14:19:17] Boontjie : mjones: relong it
[2016-11-22 14:20:03] Boontjie : wow suddenly china has a spread
[2016-11-22 14:20:22] zcashequalslambo : BTC TO THE MOON
[2016-11-22 14:20:27] Bacon futures trader : fomo lul
[2016-11-22 14:20:40] anonymous789 : zcashequalslambo: gonna collapse now, soon as someone mentions the moon
[2016-11-22 14:20:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 743.13
[2016-11-22 14:20:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 17548 @ 743.28
[2016-11-22 14:20:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 580 @ 743.27
[2016-11-22 14:20:53] zcashequalslambo : ^rekt
[2016-11-22 14:20:59] anonymous789 : i say mars...
[2016-11-22 14:21:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 744.33
[2016-11-22 14:21:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 730 @ 744.46
[2016-11-22 14:21:12] zcashequalslambo : ^mega rekt
[2016-11-22 14:21:47] anonymous789 : let's see if it breaks the 5300 cny
[2016-11-22 14:25:10] lopol : Who longed ZEC today? :D
[2016-11-22 14:25:13] lopol : epic bull trap
[2016-11-22 14:25:19] zcashequalslambo : i shorted heh
[2016-11-22 14:25:21] lopol : below 0,7 we go
[2016-11-22 14:25:27] lopol : Me too
[2016-11-22 14:28:26] Rado : buy buy buy
[2016-11-22 14:28:36] trollboxer : How high do you think that ZEC will go today?
[2016-11-22 14:29:00] Rado : high
[2016-11-22 14:29:03] Rado : it will go low
[2016-11-22 14:29:05] mjones : On here or polo?
[2016-11-22 14:30:07] lopol : this week it will be below 0,06 on polo and below 0,03 here
[2016-11-22 14:30:11] anonymous789 : such coiled spring action by btc
[2016-11-22 14:31:33] Rado : ETH and XMR good shorts on this BTC action
[2016-11-22 14:31:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 28057 @ 746.73
[2016-11-22 14:31:58] anonymous789 : i'm long btc since 728
[2016-11-22 14:32:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 28 @ 0.00000994
[2016-11-22 14:32:07] Rado : anonymous789: cool
[2016-11-22 14:32:26] Rado : anonymous789: swap or quarterly?
[2016-11-22 14:32:35] anonymous789 : swap
[2016-11-22 14:32:47] trollboxer : every time I see Polo zec price move up, lots of buy volume here
[2016-11-22 14:32:53] Rado : where did you close your short?
[2016-11-22 14:32:58] anonymous789 : target to close was originally 740 but the fomo means i'm holding
[2016-11-22 14:32:59] Rado : I am guessing same area
[2016-11-22 14:33:01] anonymous789 : 735
[2016-11-22 14:33:12] Rado : nice
[2016-11-22 14:33:20] anonymous789 : yeah not as good as the 710 i could have got
[2016-11-22 14:33:25] anonymous789 : but meh
[2016-11-22 14:33:34] anonymous789 : got back in long at 728 so i'm happy
[2016-11-22 14:35:14] Rado : anonymous789: there is no way to get top and bottom when trading
[2016-11-22 14:35:25] Rado : you can only see it after the fact
[2016-11-22 14:35:40] sleger : yes
[2016-11-22 14:35:44] anonymous789 : yea:(