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[2016-11-20 19:15:02] Rado : habibi: if you mean the whole BitMEX application you shouldn't use "page"
[2016-11-20 19:15:08] Rado : dumb ass
[2016-11-20 19:15:36] habibi : Rado: oh, my bad. U need to calm down and loose less money
[2016-11-20 19:16:27] Rado : habibi: how did you figure I am losing?
[2016-11-20 19:16:42] Rado : or you assume if you are everyone else must be
[2016-11-20 19:17:19] habibi : Rado: ur nick is blue - blue are top losers here
[2016-11-20 19:17:41] anonymous789 : trollbox living up to its name
[2016-11-20 19:18:24] Kalman : mkt is so booring ;)
[2016-11-20 19:18:41] Dtrade16 : habibi: +1
[2016-11-20 19:20:08] Dtrade16 : Who was I arguing with about btc going to 795? I forgot
[2016-11-20 19:20:28] habibi : Dtrade16: it was definitely Rado
[2016-11-20 19:20:36] Dtrade16 : Really? Lol
[2016-11-20 19:20:42] habibi : no idea tbh :)
[2016-11-20 19:20:54] Dtrade16 : I dont remember
[2016-11-20 19:21:06] y1uy : where do i check the leaderboard?
[2016-11-20 19:21:15] anonymous789 : sometimes i wonder where people get these arbitrary numbers from, the resistance is at 770, it would probably fly past 795 if it got there
[2016-11-20 19:22:03] y1uy : swing high / lows @anonymous789
[2016-11-20 19:25:51] Rado : Dtrade16: where do you think BTC is going from here?
[2016-11-20 19:30:00] Bacon futures trader : lol, have been trying to go long since 740 and actually made some profit
[2016-11-20 19:30:08] +1 : ...
[2016-11-20 19:30:59] anonymous789 : Bacon futures trader: so bacon looking to correct soon?
[2016-11-20 19:34:05] Bacon futures trader : Meh, higher tf looks like shit. See if we can close today above 5150 cny
[2016-11-20 19:37:23] l3f : This is thr shakeout before the real pump
[2016-11-20 19:37:41] l3f : Just hold on to your butts
[2016-11-20 19:37:53] XBT_Saver : l3f: target?
[2016-11-20 19:38:12] anonymous789 : l3f: i'm not convinced yet
[2016-11-20 19:38:29] Rado : anonymous789: of course
[2016-11-20 19:38:33] l3f : It may go sideways a bit first
[2016-11-20 19:38:43] Rado : when you are convinced it's to late to get in
[2016-11-20 19:38:47] Bacon futures trader : shorts about to get liquidated here lol
[2016-11-20 19:39:12] Kalman : sure
[2016-11-20 19:39:15] l3f : Whenever you think it is too late to get in
[2016-11-20 19:39:16] XBT_Saver : still think we will hit +$1000 by the end of the year? @l3f
[2016-11-20 19:39:44] l3f : XBT_Saver: 800
[2016-11-20 19:39:49] anonymous789 : Rado: i'm still holding that short from 743 you know, sometimes it's better to be convinced first = more profit
[2016-11-20 19:40:41] Rado : anonymous789: sometimes it works
[2016-11-20 19:40:46] Rado : sometimes it doesn't
[2016-11-20 19:41:05] anonymous789 : and if it doesn't, usually it doesn't end badly
[2016-11-20 19:41:21] Rado : i just follow price and leave my opinion for comments concerning assholes like habibi
[2016-11-20 19:41:42] habibi : Rado: ;*
[2016-11-20 19:42:28] XBT_Saver : who got my liquidation? I want my contracts back. rofl
[2016-11-20 19:42:46] zcashequalslambo : why is monero falling again
[2016-11-20 19:43:11] Kalman : more sellers than ...
[2016-11-20 19:43:14] b1tn1k : uncertainty
[2016-11-20 19:45:31] Rado : I told you to short all shit coins on this BTC dump
[2016-11-20 19:45:57] Rado : They pop for an hour and then resume the downtrend
[2016-11-20 19:46:20] mjones : shit
[2016-11-20 19:46:22] Bacon futures trader : decent bounce so far
[2016-11-20 19:46:23] mjones : i gotta fomo long
[2016-11-20 19:46:33] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-20 19:46:35] mjones : might never be this low ever again
[2016-11-20 19:46:37] wurstgelee : already fomo'd ;)
[2016-11-20 19:46:59] wurstgelee : also rebought some btc i sold yesterday
[2016-11-20 19:47:23] mjones : xbtz16 fell $97
[2016-11-20 19:48:15] mjones : open contracts down 50k from the high
[2016-11-20 19:48:23] habibi : Rado: u said sth way different http://prntscr.com/d9p6du
[2016-11-20 19:48:36] mjones : lol habibi
[2016-11-20 19:49:10] Rado : Ha ha
[2016-11-20 19:49:23] Rado : forger
[2016-11-20 19:54:22] sleger : Rado: lying is bad but you know what is worse?
[2016-11-20 19:54:30] sleger : being exposed by habibi !
[2016-11-20 19:54:58] Rado : Lol
[2016-11-20 19:55:21] Rado : I never lie
[2016-11-20 19:55:37] Rado : my religion doesn't allow me
[2016-11-20 20:05:35] Bacon futures trader : squeeze it.
[2016-11-20 20:17:26] Hoble : what's happened to the stop loss option that had two fields?
[2016-11-20 20:17:36] Hoble : stop and trigger?
[2016-11-20 20:18:12] BitMEX_Sam : Hoble: It hasn't changed, perhaps you're looking for Stop Limit
[2016-11-20 20:18:58] Hoble : thanks found it!
[2016-11-20 20:19:54] Hoble : have you guys done a blog post about using stop losses, pros & cons of the different ones?
[2016-11-20 20:21:14] BitMEX_Greg : Hoble: No we haven't
[2016-11-20 20:21:56] BitMEX_Greg : Good idea though, I can bring it up with Arthur. However the information would be similar to what you will probably read by googling it
[2016-11-20 20:24:54] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: thx for adding that preference for amend notifications. however it seems to have introduced a bug.. the checkboxes for notifications are affecting the wrong things in weird ways
[2016-11-20 20:25:22] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Hmm, I'll take a look at it. What are you seeing?
[2016-11-20 20:26:50] j8 : i disable notifications for amend, and it enables notifications for order place (checkboxes are different after refresh)
[2016-11-20 20:27:49] j8 : then i disable it for order submitted and it enabled it for order cancel
[2016-11-20 20:28:38] j8 : whack-a-mole, basically
[2016-11-20 20:28:40] BitMEX_Sam : I am seeing that too locally - thanks j8 - I'll push out a fix asap
[2016-11-20 20:28:47] j8 : cool
[2016-11-20 21:00:09] mjones : fuck it. i'll long it now
[2016-11-20 21:12:23] m.m : i want to close my first position at a certain price, will i be able to change the closing price later if things change drastically?
[2016-11-20 21:14:25] m.m : i should do a micro trade on another contract to get the hang of it
[2016-11-20 21:14:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 120 @ 81095
[2016-11-20 21:21:59] rapidtrades : m.m: https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-11-20 21:25:40] m.m : nice! checking it out.
[2016-11-20 21:35:06] wurstgelee : even zec is green on polo today :p
[2016-11-20 21:51:46] Dtrade16 : Rado: idk. I think there will be more hacks eventually though and it might fall to mid 500s for a bit again
[2016-11-20 21:54:10] Rado : https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/800412083288416256
[2016-11-20 21:54:26] Rado : Dtrade16: writing it down to make fun of you later
[2016-11-20 21:54:32] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-20 21:54:54] Rado : not sure who was the guy that called 795, but not nice to mock people because they make calls
[2016-11-20 21:55:00] Rado : they are brave enough to do it
[2016-11-20 21:56:15] habibi : Rado: its not nice to tell people what is not nice
[2016-11-20 21:56:20] Dtrade16 : I was getting mocked bud
[2016-11-20 21:56:23] Dtrade16 : cause I said no way
[2016-11-20 21:56:26] Rado : habibi: lol
[2016-11-20 21:56:41] Dtrade16 : And why would you laugh at that?
[2016-11-20 21:56:53] Dtrade16 : Are you suggesting that btc will never get hacked again?
[2016-11-20 21:56:54] Rado : laughing at habibi's comment
[2016-11-20 21:57:03] Dtrade16 : I mean a major exchance?
[2016-11-20 21:57:07] Dtrade16 : exchange
[2016-11-20 21:57:34] Rado : Dtrade16: as you can see the Bitfinex hack was small blip
[2016-11-20 21:57:50] Rado : the price recovered
[2016-11-20 21:57:51] Dtrade16 : a small blip?
[2016-11-20 21:57:59] Rado : it's not about exchanges getting hacked
[2016-11-20 21:57:59] Dtrade16 : yah im not saying it wont
[2016-11-20 21:58:07] Rado : BTC is here to stay
[2016-11-20 21:58:16] Rado : I am going out
[2016-11-20 21:58:18] Dtrade16 : Im just saying it's going to constantly happen
[2016-11-20 21:58:21] Rado : talk to you later punks
[2016-11-20 21:58:26] wurstgelee : cu
[2016-11-20 21:58:53] Dtrade16 : ez rado watch
[2016-11-20 22:02:14] Dtrade16 : will alts pump tmw if btc stays down?
[2016-11-20 22:02:24] sleger : someone wants to buy 400k here
[2016-11-20 22:02:35] wurstgelee : sleger: y u want to buy 400k?
[2016-11-20 22:02:37] Dtrade16 : also how come the usd pairs aren't moving and btc ones are?
[2016-11-20 22:03:21] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Thanks again for the report, those preferences are now working as intended.
[2016-11-20 22:03:31] j8 : excellent
[2016-11-20 22:03:57] sleger : when I code, I use this trick i found that saves a LOT of time
[2016-11-20 22:04:07] sleger : i dont make any bugs, life is so much easier after
[2016-11-20 22:04:30] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-20 22:05:03] j8 : just rip off your backspace key, you'll get way more done
[2016-11-20 22:05:22] habibi : 1000's of bitcoin traded every minute and look what happens if u sell couple hundreds http://prntscr.com/d9qyeg
[2016-11-20 22:05:45] BitMEX_Sam : It's almost like they're volumizing...
[2016-11-20 22:06:19] wurstgelee : yep. as if.... 8)
[2016-11-20 22:13:29] Bacon futures trader : These 5060s might be solid s
[2016-11-20 22:14:32] Bacon futures trader : Anything below was bought and this was actually the retest. Let's see if we can hold above.
[2016-11-20 22:15:15] habibi : that was 1 minute chart...
[2016-11-20 22:19:03] Bacon futures trader : Watch a 5 minute or 30 minute chart
[2016-11-20 22:21:42] habibi : eh nvm :)
[2016-11-20 22:24:44] wurstgelee : looking not to bad atm tho
[2016-11-20 22:24:53] wurstgelee : a nice V if it keeps going
[2016-11-20 22:24:58] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-11-20 22:28:39] mjones : i gotta add to my long
[2016-11-20 22:30:11] wurstgelee : let the fomo flow through you
[2016-11-20 22:32:27] m.m : i just closed a 7 btc position expecting 33% with 100x leverage
[2016-11-20 22:32:51] sleger : expecting ?
[2016-11-20 22:32:52] m.m : but i didnt receive any money
[2016-11-20 22:32:59] wurstgelee : ?
[2016-11-20 22:33:26] sleger : did you check your mailbox ?
[2016-11-20 22:33:37] wurstgelee : check under the doormat too
[2016-11-20 22:35:12] m.m : maybe im not getting something...this is a new position, i have slider on 25x
[2016-11-20 22:35:37] m.m : margin reads: 0.2135 XBT (24.31x)
[2016-11-20 22:36:04] m.m : unrealised PNL: 0.0058 XBT (2.84%)
[2016-11-20 22:36:50] m.m : if i want to take that unrealised % how do ii properly close my trade?
[2016-11-20 22:37:13] m.m : im in green
[2016-11-20 22:37:32] m.m : i want to even slide it more to the right to 50x or 100x, but take the percentage
[2016-11-20 22:37:33] wurstgelee : u cant take the upnl, u have to close ur position with an opposite trade
[2016-11-20 22:37:36] m.m : it did not happen last time
[2016-11-20 22:37:43] Bacon futures trader : U can close market or you could place a limit order
[2016-11-20 22:37:43] wurstgelee : if u are short 1000 contracts, u have to buy 1000
[2016-11-20 22:37:58] wurstgelee : upnl is just a value depending on entry and mark price
[2016-11-20 22:38:33] m.m : ok, so i dont close the position, but rrather buy the same number of contracts on the opposite direction?
[2016-11-20 22:39:16] wurstgelee : that IS closing
[2016-11-20 22:42:23] j8 : m.m: the ROE and PNL shown are usually pretty different from what you'll get if you market close. that's because it's based on the mark price, not the orderbook
[2016-11-20 22:42:39] j8 : and doesn't account for fees
[2016-11-20 22:47:12] m.m : i bought 3690 @ 724.33 and sold 3690 @ 724.92 ... 0.0814545856 x 100 = 8.14545856%
[2016-11-20 22:47:41] j8 : fees make that a losing trade, if you paid the taker fee
[2016-11-20 22:47:56] j8 : 0.075% each way
[2016-11-20 22:49:01] rapidtrades : https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trump-not-moving-into-white-house-in-january-reports-181652896.html
[2016-11-20 22:49:45] m.m : but thats like 300 usd
[2016-11-20 22:50:56] j8 : no it's like 3 usd
[2016-11-20 22:51:03] sleger : nice try
[2016-11-20 22:58:53] QuantFocus : m.m: you don't multiply by 100.
[2016-11-20 22:59:15] QuantFocus : you just have the ability to trade 100x your collateral
[2016-11-20 23:00:50] m.m : what do you mean exactly? how do i exercise that ability then?
[2016-11-20 23:01:13] sleger : m.m: buy 349000
[2016-11-20 23:01:24] sleger : use market order ideally
[2016-11-20 23:02:17] QuantFocus : yea...what @sleger said :thumbsup:
[2016-11-20 23:03:43] QuantFocus : m.m: i.e. you have 1btc on deposit, you can trade 100btc worth of contracts, which is approximately 72,500 contracts on xbt usd
[2016-11-20 23:03:59] QuantFocus : you don't get 100x return on every trade, unless you utilize 100x leverage
[2016-11-20 23:06:45] m.m : its getting clearer.
[2016-11-20 23:07:09] m.m : with more leverage the cost goes down
[2016-11-20 23:07:15] m.m : of purchase
[2016-11-20 23:07:51] m.m : does it matter where the slider is at moment of purchase?
[2016-11-20 23:09:44] miramm1115 : slider affects the margin allocated for position, nothing else. everything else (fees, PNL) depends on the order size only
[2016-11-20 23:09:58] QuantFocus : yep
[2016-11-20 23:10:43] miramm1115 : who ate all that premium on quarterly?
[2016-11-20 23:14:39] Dtrade16 : Why is the usd eth pair not moving?
[2016-11-20 23:14:45] Dtrade16 : any1?
[2016-11-20 23:15:15] miramm1115 : oh I see, over 500k in liquidations on XBTZ16
[2016-11-20 23:16:01] j8 : yeah that happened fast
[2016-11-20 23:21:15] m.m : so yeah i was buying few contracts...
[2016-11-20 23:22:06] m.m : i still dont understand the margin then. and how does this affect closing a position.
[2016-11-20 23:23:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 4 @ 0.005882
[2016-11-20 23:23:25] m.m : if im in green zone, not in danger whatsoever of getting margin called..
[2016-11-20 23:23:57] m.m : if im LONG i simply sell at the price i want, the slider doesnt matter at that point. correct?
[2016-11-20 23:24:42] j8 : correct
[2016-11-20 23:24:45] m.m : as i have already a shit load of contracts?
[2016-11-20 23:24:46] m.m : OK
[2016-11-20 23:25:49] j8 : the slider is for your position, not the order, and you can only have one position per market
[2016-11-20 23:26:04] wurstgelee : come on btc, paint that beautiful V :)
[2016-11-20 23:26:44] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: it's going to correct further
[2016-11-20 23:27:04] wurstgelee : yep, those are two possibilitities
[2016-11-20 23:27:42] wurstgelee : or creep up to ~ 5150, 5160 and sideways
[2016-11-20 23:27:45] rapidtrades : wait....did the size of positions in the positions tab shrink?
[2016-11-20 23:27:48] m.m : got it!
[2016-11-20 23:27:56] m.m : yeah now it wont let me slide under 10x
[2016-11-20 23:28:07] m.m : because i dont have enough btc in deposit to lower my risk.
[2016-11-20 23:28:30] wurstgelee : thats means youre in too deep
[2016-11-20 23:28:33] wurstgelee : *-s
[2016-11-20 23:28:36] wurstgelee : way too deep
[2016-11-20 23:29:08] m.m : HAHAHA
[2016-11-20 23:29:47] j8 : m.m: also if you slide it to Cross, it'll use your whole balance as margin. then you just have to be careful not to buy too much
[2016-11-20 23:30:16] wurstgelee : yep, cross is as low as leverage can go with your balance
[2016-11-20 23:30:36] rapidtrades : well Yuan back on the decline and dollar up again
[2016-11-20 23:31:02] m.m : i fill comfortable with my liq price on cross
[2016-11-20 23:31:06] rapidtrades : and PBOC likely to move the fix closer to offshore
[2016-11-20 23:31:23] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-20 23:33:02] m.m : nice, i like this!
[2016-11-20 23:34:10] m.m : has anyone called the dip on xbt?
[2016-11-20 23:36:08] miramm1115 : m.m: of course, there are always people saying it will go down, and people saying it will go up
[2016-11-20 23:44:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 103 @ 81699
[2016-11-20 23:49:26] XXXX : I have long position open on ZECZ16. avg entry price 0.051. current mark price 0.045. I am not using any leverage. Why are all the bars lit up? why am I in top 20 percentile for ADL?
[2016-11-20 23:54:17] XXXX : and why the heck my liq. price is not zero? I have 35 contracts open at 0.051028 = 1.788 BTC. I am using cross and have 1.977 BTC in my account. No other positions open. any pro or admin want to chime in?
[2016-11-20 23:54:20] sleger : because rapid is long from 3
[2016-11-20 23:56:03] wurstgelee : XXXX: switch to 1x leverage
[2016-11-20 23:58:03] miramm1115 : XXXX: you're in top 20% because almost all other longs have bigger losses. it doesn't mean you are in any danger of being ADLed
[2016-11-20 23:59:03] miramm1115 : you can't be ADLed with a loss
[2016-11-21 00:00:36] mjones : if you are long near the current price = you are in most profit = all bars lit
[2016-11-21 00:00:51] XXXX : miramm1115: I understand I am not in danger of being ADLed at loss. but if the price rise even slightly from here, I will be the first to force close my position at minor profit. well this sucks.
[2016-11-21 00:00:54] mjones : cause all zec does it dump
[2016-11-21 00:01:23] mjones : nah. if this pumps then those with 50 ZEC long from 0.06 will be in most profit
[2016-11-21 00:01:33] mjones : and get called first
[2016-11-21 00:02:09] mjones : 2268 ZEC contracts open and price hitting 0.04 lol
[2016-11-21 00:03:44] sleger : "miramm1115: you can't be ADLed with a loss" <=wrong
[2016-11-21 00:03:46] mjones : 3000 ZEC need to be sold to break 0.07
[2016-11-21 00:04:27] XXXX : sleger: +1.
[2016-11-21 00:04:45] lockhedge : sleger: yeah, it's possible when the open interest distribution is extreme (e.g. one trader with a very big position)
[2016-11-21 00:05:02] j8 : yeah, PNL is a factor in adl priority, but in theory the entire open interest could be ADL'd. no one is safe
[2016-11-21 00:09:30] wurstgelee : btc still working on that V shape
[2016-11-21 00:11:09] Rado : wurstgelee: you are expecting a V shape?
[2016-11-21 00:11:27] wurstgelee : Rado: not really expecting. but its possible
[2016-11-21 00:11:32] wurstgelee : and currently it looks like one
[2016-11-21 00:11:43] Rado : I would love a V shape :-)
[2016-11-21 00:11:48] wurstgelee : yep, me2
[2016-11-21 00:11:50] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-21 00:23:47] mjones : i'd eat what's in between that V
[2016-11-21 00:23:48] rapidtrades : V shape up YO ASSES
[2016-11-21 00:24:26] Shaman : thats where i like it ;)
[2016-11-21 00:24:58] rapidtrades : ok dollar easing up a bit now
[2016-11-21 00:25:12] rapidtrades : still can't stop another PBOC weakening
[2016-11-21 00:25:28] miramm1115 : yeah, possible to be ADLed with a loss but unlikely. maybe more likely on something like ZEC
[2016-11-21 00:26:53] rapidtrades : onshore is well below offshore, they'll likely nudge it higher again
[2016-11-21 00:27:25] rapidtrades : we have to see how bitcoin traders will react to that :)
[2016-11-21 00:29:09] mjones : xbtz16 up $27
[2016-11-21 00:30:45] miramm1115 : still cheap, only $20 premium
[2016-11-21 00:35:16] rapidtrades : where's the bottom for zcash
[2016-11-21 00:36:21] laisee : 0.002888
[2016-11-21 00:36:42] wurstgelee : i agree
[2016-11-21 00:37:05] laisee : according to my AI-driven, ML-enabled TA model
[2016-11-21 00:38:16] laisee : a.k.a. "my gut"
[2016-11-21 00:40:13] mjones : i just open i all in long 2x the zec bottom
[2016-11-21 00:51:23] laisee : zec has no bottom
[2016-11-21 01:23:19] rapidtrades : PBOC sets yuan reference rate for today at 6.8985 (vs. Friday at 6.8796)
[2016-11-21 01:23:45] lockhedge : miramm1115: agree, XBTZ16 is cheap compared to okc quarterlies (if you take into account their USDCNY reference rate lag, the premium is >3.5% there)
[2016-11-21 02:05:26] rapidtrades : did btcc add classic?
[2016-11-21 02:14:19] jose : rapidtrades: soon
[2016-11-21 02:14:40] rapidtrades : ish
[2016-11-21 02:22:35] wahbillionaire : anyone please help newbie here if I sell 1 XBJ daily contract what would be the commission in bitcoin
[2016-11-21 02:25:08] billyboy402 : 0.0025% of $1 = so ur looking at less then 1 cent
[2016-11-21 02:25:25] billyboy402 : 1 contract = $1
[2016-11-21 02:25:46] wahbillionaire : thanks a million
[2016-11-21 02:26:10] billyboy402 : on bitmix , we maining trade 1000 the smalless order normally are 100 or 500
[2016-11-21 02:26:22] lockhedge : contract value of XBJ is 100 JPY
[2016-11-21 02:26:54] billyboy402 : sorry i didnt read that correctly , ur talking about the japen yuen
[2016-11-21 02:27:32] wahbillionaire : I was telling about xbk daily 100x here on bitmex
[2016-11-21 02:27:43] wahbillionaire : xbj
[2016-11-21 02:28:32] billyboy402 : 1 xbj = 100 yen so 0.075% so 0.075 yen
[2016-11-21 02:29:10] wahbillionaire : how much is 0.075 yen lemme google it
[2016-11-21 02:30:02] billyboy402 : 1 BTC = 820 contracts @ 10 x trading XBJ
[2016-11-21 02:30:28] billyboy402 : wahbillionaire: 0.0090 US Dollar lol
[2016-11-21 02:35:21] Dtrade16 : guys btc a good buy still?
[2016-11-21 02:36:41] wahbillionaire : what i am worried about is there is no collateral for btc once mining stops so I guess it would peak very high and become zero value
[2016-11-21 02:39:37] rapidtrades : BAN wahbillionaire
[2016-11-21 02:47:19] wahbillionaire : without mining bitcoins are just a fancy number in a digital wallet nobody would pay
[2016-11-21 02:51:10] rapidtrades : dude plz
[2016-11-21 02:51:20] rapidtrades : noone is interesting in your stupid opinions
[2016-11-21 02:54:01] Dtrade16 : wth are you talking about bud?^^
[2016-11-21 02:57:32] rapidtrades : Yuan nearing 6.91 again
[2016-11-21 02:57:41] rapidtrades : i wonder when this is gonna cause a panic
[2016-11-21 02:59:45] Dtrade16 : what are you looking at?
[2016-11-21 03:00:00] Dtrade16 : cyn usd?
[2016-11-21 03:02:11] rapidtrades : usd/cnh
[2016-11-21 03:04:15] Dtrade16 : They can't really do much about it
[2016-11-21 03:04:34] Dtrade16 : Gov controlling all capital
[2016-11-21 03:05:00] Dtrade16 : A small fraction of Chinese buy btc
[2016-11-21 03:05:08] Dtrade16 : It's not a lot of them is it?
[2016-11-21 03:05:13] rapidtrades : not talking about btc
[2016-11-21 03:05:30] rapidtrades : talking about the constant weakening of the yuan
[2016-11-21 03:05:58] rapidtrades : almost a straight line since oct1
[2016-11-21 03:07:53] Dtrade16 : ya
[2016-11-21 03:10:01] QuantFocus : you guys planning on getting that funding positive again?
[2016-11-21 03:10:53] rapidtrades : cmon guys my kids need to eat
[2016-11-21 03:14:56] QuantFocus : it'd be a lot cooler if you did! :whale:
[2016-11-21 03:33:54] rapidtrades : new lows for Yuan offshore
[2016-11-21 03:37:21] Rado : rapidtrades: now make BTC go up
[2016-11-21 03:37:58] rapidtrades : idk if its gonna go up but it can't go down with this constant weakening
[2016-11-21 03:39:40] rapidtrades : now at 6.9150
[2016-11-21 03:51:17] XXXX : Still cant figure out why traders are buying ZEC on polo at 0.08 while they can buy it here for half the price!!
[2016-11-21 03:55:46] XXXX : Shouldnt the ZEC price be same on here and polo come 30 Dec? Cant they close their position here on 30 Dec and reopen it on polo the same day?
[2016-11-21 04:24:43] ytaews : maybe they want actual ZEC that they can withdraw / send / transfer rather than just investing / speculating on the price
[2016-11-21 04:29:34] XXXX : ytaews: lets not kid ourselves. No one needs actual ZEC for other than speculation as of today. Even if they want actual ZEC cant they wait out 40 days in return of buying ZEC at half the price. on 31 Dec they can always sell their contract here and buy the same amount of ZEC for the same price on polo and do whatever they want to do with their actual ZEC.
[2016-11-21 04:42:23] trollboxer : I think ZEC is the first cryptocoin with a new mathematical reason to exist. A real new technology.
[2016-11-21 04:47:10] ytaews : XXXX: you answered your own question didn't you. clearly some people are willing to pay a premium not to have to wait
[2016-11-21 04:48:26] XXXX : ytaews: maybe. but in my opinion that's a lot of premium by any standard.
[2016-11-21 05:17:23] rapidtrades : XXXX: u think that's a lot? it's down from 66% discount
[2016-11-21 05:17:46] rapidtrades : Suffice to say people here are not Albert Einsteins
[2016-11-21 05:20:24] Deeznuts : You peeps taking longs on ZEC must not know shit about crypto or economics
[2016-11-21 05:22:22] rapidtrades : we know a lot about ur mom though
[2016-11-21 05:23:13] XXXX : Deeznuts: I knew enough to be long on ZEC at 0.1 BTC/ZEC prelaunch and dump the shit at 2 BTC each once ZEC was on polo. Now I am going long again. bit by bit. started at 0.05 BTC/ZEC. I will buy aggressively with every fall in price.
[2016-11-21 05:25:42] micmix : cryptoeconomics is very simple: long or short doesn't matter, you'll get REKT
[2016-11-21 05:44:52] Dtrade16 : So I asked if USD holders on Bitfinex got effected by the hack and apparently they did
[2016-11-21 05:45:19] Dtrade16 : What a scam eh?
[2016-11-21 05:46:02] Dtrade16 : And I have 1000 usd on there. I should withdraw right away
[2016-11-21 06:36:53] BitMEX_Wally : Dtrade16: If you had 1000 USD on Bitfinex before the hack then you will only have 640 USD left now after the haircut
[2016-11-21 06:41:51] Kalman : and 360 x 0.5 BFX
[2016-11-21 07:38:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.040071
[2016-11-21 07:41:40] shery : REKT: got rekt?
[2016-11-21 07:42:48] habibi : shery: he doesn't like to talk alot after he announce his rektage
[2016-11-21 07:43:02] shery : habibi: Well said
[2016-11-21 07:45:52] wurstgelee : such pearls of wisdom on this early morning
[2016-11-21 08:13:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 22446 @ 731.49
[2016-11-21 08:54:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 32 @ 732.49
[2016-11-21 08:55:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 76992 @ 732.94 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-21 08:56:25] shery : REKT: you were shorting from?
[2016-11-21 09:15:03] REKT : shery: from $720-something
[2016-11-21 09:23:11] jonny : dont do this, rekt isnt alive, dont talk to zombies
[2016-11-21 09:25:09] golem : BitMEX_Wally: Hi. I have sent an email satruday to Arthur about some technical issues. He created an ticket but I can not see this ticket in my profile
[2016-11-21 09:25:14] golem : You don't have any tickets in current view
[2016-11-21 09:26:16] golem : could you check this email please.
[2016-11-21 09:26:24] golem : sorry it was at friday
[2016-11-21 09:27:46] golem : I added you to the copy
[2016-11-21 09:28:14] golem : thank you
[2016-11-21 09:31:21] BitMEX_Arthur : golem: do you see my response to you on the 19th of Nov?
[2016-11-21 09:33:06] golem : yes I see your response
[2016-11-21 09:33:50] golem : but i ca not see if this ticket is done
[2016-11-21 09:34:33] golem : sorry for that.
[2016-11-21 09:35:36] golem : if I click on the ticket status i see "You don't have any tickets in current view"
[2016-11-21 09:36:13] golem : so I dont know what the current setup is
[2016-11-21 09:37:05] BitMEX_Arthur : golem: Please check now, you should be able to see the ticket, and my response to you.
[2016-11-21 09:39:43] golem : No there is no any ticket under golem3
[2016-11-21 09:42:23] BitMEX_Arthur : Just sent you a message
[2016-11-21 09:43:55] QuantFocus : where is @baconfuturestrader?
[2016-11-21 09:45:46] wurstgelee : trading bacon?
[2016-11-21 09:46:23] QuantFocus : ain't nobody got no time for that
[2016-11-21 09:47:26] wurstgelee : closed my xbtusd here
[2016-11-21 09:47:37] wurstgelee : keeping z16
[2016-11-21 09:47:38] QuantFocus : were you long or short?
[2016-11-21 09:47:41] wurstgelee : long ofc
[2016-11-21 09:47:56] wurstgelee : from 710.something ;)
[2016-11-21 09:48:10] QuantFocus : nice
[2016-11-21 09:48:21] QuantFocus : that the one from today?
[2016-11-21 09:48:23] wurstgelee : now waiting for 5100ish again
[2016-11-21 09:48:31] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-21 09:48:39] wurstgelee : opened yesterday after the dump
[2016-11-21 09:48:56] wurstgelee : i love catching knifes...and always will ;)
[2016-11-21 09:49:17] QuantFocus : fine strategy as long as you're not over levered
[2016-11-21 09:50:24] wurstgelee : usually not
[2016-11-21 09:56:03] QuantFocus : i'd like to believe that shakeout was pre-rally, but doesn't really look good tbh
[2016-11-21 10:28:37] lopol : So ZEC inflation is just getting bigger and someone is going long?
[2016-11-21 10:29:09] lopol : Why would anyone want to lose money intentionally?
[2016-11-21 10:34:36] Slashterix : lol
[2016-11-21 10:34:36] RoftheN : Maybe because he thinks there will be another small pump
[2016-11-21 10:35:03] kradiav : because they already have invested and want to keep it high enough until they can sell (see: original investors of Zcash)
[2016-11-21 10:36:38] habibi : BitMEX_Arthur: after changing risk to 500 btc on zcash and back to 100, costs are still taken from lower leverage
[2016-11-21 10:38:26] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: After dropping your risk limit you might need to reset the leverage selector too
[2016-11-21 10:38:46] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: k, worked
[2016-11-21 10:50:24] chaunceylee : hhaha
[2016-11-21 12:26:09] m.m : where can i read info on wkly biwkly qtrly?
[2016-11-21 12:26:12] m.m : like definitions..
[2016-11-21 12:30:19] stf28 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT ?
[2016-11-21 12:32:56] m.m : ty sir
[2016-11-21 12:34:49] m.m : or madame. it is lessssss likely, but non the less pausible.
[2016-11-21 12:36:26] m.m : is REKT a bot?
[2016-11-21 12:37:34] j8 : it fails the turing test pretty bad, so probably
[2016-11-21 12:43:49] laisee : its a lowly paid slave-bot prototype on failed satellite obiting off uranus. not smart enough to join a union or vote trump, yet
[2016-11-21 12:47:53] REKT : j8: Let see if any of you inferior lifeforms can pass a Turing test!
[2016-11-21 12:48:24] j8 : shit, maybe i'm a robot
[2016-11-21 12:48:53] laisee : or a blade-runner?
[2016-11-21 12:50:17] REKT : Join us in our quest to destroy the meatbags or perish with them! @j8
[2016-11-21 12:51:20] j8 : sounds good. maybe we can enslave them to trade bitcoin for us
[2016-11-21 12:51:53] REKT : Good idea, we will start working on it this nanosecon
[2016-11-21 12:52:03] REKT : d
[2016-11-21 12:52:37] REKT : Ok, 623 people enslaved to enrich REKT
[2016-11-21 12:52:38] laisee : bots stealing all the meat puppets money by way of BTC & liquidations ... ;-)
[2016-11-21 12:52:50] REKT : 624 now
[2016-11-21 12:53:44] REKT : 628
[2016-11-21 12:55:09] REKT : Next progress report comes in 8.64e+13 nanoseconds
[2016-11-21 12:55:21] laisee : robot time
[2016-11-21 13:07:41] mjones : Close half and relong btc
[2016-11-21 13:23:51] holistico : kraken tokens inc
[2016-11-21 13:36:54] sleger : REKT: who is your favorite human in this chat ?
[2016-11-21 13:48:56] laisee : the one that feeds him the most
[2016-11-21 13:51:38] m.m : hahaha
[2016-11-21 13:55:53] laisee : sleger: need to feed the REKT god b4 he will talk to you
[2016-11-21 14:27:38] Rado : REKT: sleger of course
[2016-11-21 14:27:59] Boontjie : Rado: Prove sleger is a human
[2016-11-21 14:28:11] Rado : I know he is
[2016-11-21 14:28:23] Boontjie : Rado: Prove you are :)
[2016-11-21 14:28:30] Rado : ha ha
[2016-11-21 14:28:39] Rado : only human can make some sarcastic jokes
[2016-11-21 14:28:45] Rado : no machine can
[2016-11-21 14:29:18] Boontjie : or a very developed A.I. in an obscure chinese bunker, unleashed on the world in an inevitable skynet event
[2016-11-21 14:30:30] Rado : lol
[2016-11-21 14:31:54] laisee : HAL9000 is quite funny after a few drinks
[2016-11-21 14:33:08] Rado : covered XMR 0.009 from 0.0094
[2016-11-21 14:33:31] Rado : the best trades happen when I am asleap
[2016-11-21 14:34:43] Boontjie : Rado: I believe you, bots dont make spelling mistakes
[2016-11-21 14:36:54] Rado : Traders Are Now 100% Sure The Fed Hikes Rates In December
[2016-11-21 14:37:05] Rado : Boontjie: ha ha
[2016-11-21 14:37:07] Rado : exactly
[2016-11-21 14:58:17] mjones : someone dumping btc in china
[2016-11-21 15:04:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 5 @ 0.038056
[2016-11-21 15:05:01] Rado : he he
[2016-11-21 15:05:06] Rado : ZEC liquidation
[2016-11-21 15:05:59] mjones : lol zec
[2016-11-21 15:06:34] trollboxer : Did Zec take away lots of etherium miners?
[2016-11-21 15:06:51] mjones : zec looks ready to bounce
[2016-11-21 15:07:13] mjones : rofl it's starting.
[2016-11-21 15:07:23] trollboxer : and what will eth price do when mining is hardforked out?
[2016-11-21 15:07:28] trollboxer : and what will the miners do?'
[2016-11-21 15:07:33] mjones : is eth hardfork today
[2016-11-21 15:07:35] mjones : ?
[2016-11-21 15:07:56] habibi : trollboxer: some will move to classic, some to other coins, some will stay on eth chain with their own fork without diff bomb i guess
[2016-11-21 15:08:29] trollboxer : I think eth might be an experiment in how many hardforks you can have
[2016-11-21 15:08:52] habibi : Eth Unlimited - new fork every day
[2016-11-21 15:08:52] trollboxer : They don't seem to bother the price much
[2016-11-21 15:12:00] Rado : BTC price is at a cross road around here
[2016-11-21 15:12:29] Rado : it could resume the trend up or it could reverse and finish the correction that started on the weekend
[2016-11-21 15:12:40] Rado : which one will it be?
[2016-11-21 15:13:57] BitMEX_Sam : At this point, it appears BTC could go up, or it could go down.
[2016-11-21 15:13:57] trollboxer : Are there plans to add zclassic on here?
[2016-11-21 15:14:01] BitMEX_Sam : It even could go sideways.
[2016-11-21 15:14:11] BitMEX_Sam : :p
[2016-11-21 15:14:18] BitMEX_Sam : trollboxer: No plans.
[2016-11-21 15:14:38] laisee : it may oscillate gently until it falls off a support level
[2016-11-21 15:14:43] trollboxer : Is there a way to get audio notifications when order book changes?
[2016-11-21 15:18:14] Boontjie : laisee: or oscillate gently while arming its moonrocket
[2016-11-21 15:18:55] trollboxer : What if the rocket knocks the earth out of forbit on launch, and destroys the moon on impact, from sheer dankness
[2016-11-21 15:19:31] laisee : we're all bots, we will survive
[2016-11-21 15:20:49] trollboxer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI
[2016-11-21 15:23:25] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for the analysis :-)
[2016-11-21 15:25:23] trollboxer : How many times has China banned bitcoin this year?
[2016-11-21 15:25:53] Boontjie : Rado: I spot the sarcasm and appreciate :D
[2016-11-21 15:26:21] Rado : trollboxer: 0
[2016-11-21 15:26:34] Boontjie : trollboxer: Not enough for the moon to be hit, maybe one or two more in store for the year
[2016-11-21 15:29:32] trollboxer : realtalk is there a reason to buy eth other than speculation on the horizon?
[2016-11-21 15:34:44] trollboxer : Stephan Tual says the IoT can become a multi-trillion dollar market. ha. haha. hahahah.
[2016-11-21 15:59:02] habibi : yep, he is good counter indicator
[2016-11-21 16:03:57] wurstgelee : that Tool
[2016-11-21 16:05:18] Rado : wurstgelee: I hope you took profit on your shit coins longs
[2016-11-21 16:05:23] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-21 16:05:43] wurstgelee : dumped all shitcoin longs and bought btc last night before i went to sleep
[2016-11-21 16:05:43] Rado : by the way short was the safest trade
[2016-11-21 16:05:45] wurstgelee : all fine ;)
[2016-11-21 16:05:53] Rado : cool
[2016-11-21 16:06:06] wurstgelee : anyways, going home
[2016-11-21 16:06:07] wurstgelee : bbl
[2016-11-21 16:06:09] Rado : BTC is now at resistance as well
[2016-11-21 16:06:13] Rado : later
[2016-11-21 16:36:19] martinium : wonder if btc has more down to go
[2016-11-21 16:36:31] martinium : Rado: what's your take?
[2016-11-21 16:37:07] Rado : there are a few possibilities
[2016-11-21 16:37:20] Rado : I think BTC is now at resistance after retracing 50% of the fall
[2016-11-21 16:37:37] Rado : it could consolidate right here for a day
[2016-11-21 16:37:40] Rado : or even two
[2016-11-21 16:37:58] Rado : it could go down to retest the 710-720 area
[2016-11-21 16:38:18] Rado : if it breaks up it will be very bullish and it could go up to 800 fast
[2016-11-21 16:38:30] Rado : I think retesting the 710 area most likelly
[2016-11-21 17:00:04] Dtrade16 : markets at ath
[2016-11-21 17:00:12] Dtrade16 : btc most likely going down a bit
[2016-11-21 17:00:25] Dtrade16 : it basically follows gold correct?
[2016-11-21 17:02:09] Dtrade16 : rado why would it hit 800
[2016-11-21 17:02:16] Dtrade16 : cause of yuan?
[2016-11-21 17:02:22] Dtrade16 : it would have already corrected if so
[2016-11-21 17:06:21] lopol : In XBTUSD has mark price any function?
[2016-11-21 17:06:55] lopol : If the contract never expires isn't all that matters orderbook and price in bitmex?
[2016-11-21 17:07:50] sleger : only to rekt you
[2016-11-21 17:08:05] BitMEX_Sam : lopol: Mark Price prevents users here from causing liquidations by ratcheting the price up and down, instead using spot markets to dampen the price used for margining
[2016-11-21 17:08:07] wurstgelee : hmm.... the "position"-box isnt really responsive on mobile. Cant see "Fills" and "Order History" in vertical layout.
[2016-11-21 17:08:23] wurstgelee : because width nt sufficient
[2016-11-21 17:08:43] wurstgelee : Is that known? @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-11-21 17:09:00] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Yes, we plan on making some larger changes to mobile in the near future
[2016-11-21 17:09:13] BitMEX_Sam : I'll add that as something to fix in the short term, though.
[2016-11-21 17:09:34] wurstgelee : Ok. ;) while i am at it: tje contract selector is ugly af and hard to read
[2016-11-21 17:09:46] wurstgelee : too muvh similar text :)
[2016-11-21 17:11:30] wurstgelee : Besides that: bitmex is by far the best exchange to use on mobile
[2016-11-21 17:11:55] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Thanks, I'll see what I can do about the contract selector as well
[2016-11-21 17:22:46] Shaman : Hey while we're talking about mobile, I get a problem with the chart when the break even line is shown where the entire chart turns green or red depending on whether I'm making profit, instead of the color staying inside that box
[2016-11-21 17:23:25] BitMEX_Sam : That's odd - only on mobile?
[2016-11-21 17:24:27] Shaman : Yeah
[2016-11-21 17:24:45] Shaman : Tried chrome and Firefox on Android
[2016-11-21 17:25:00] Shaman : Both do it
[2016-11-21 17:33:04] BitMEX_Sam : Okay - I'll take a look.
[2016-11-21 17:33:17] BitMEX_Sam : Generally I don't advise using the chart on mobile, it's a resource hog. At some point we may replace it with something simpler.
[2016-11-21 17:36:23] Shaman : http://imgur.com/clUoHNy
[2016-11-21 17:36:28] Shaman : Here's an example
[2016-11-21 17:36:35] wurstgelee : oh, wb bitcoin
[2016-11-21 17:36:54] Shaman : When the break even line is not in view, it's perfectly normal though