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[2016-11-20 17:57:18] arbitrage001 : sleger: lol
[2016-11-20 17:57:20] arbitrage001 : yeah
[2016-11-20 17:57:29] arbitrage001 : wasnt thinking clear when market panic
[2016-11-20 17:57:51] arbitrage001 : not too late to convert
[2016-11-20 18:00:54] aethlios : 10 dollar spread with swap a nice buy
[2016-11-20 18:02:50] mjones : short for the huge margin calls
[2016-11-20 18:03:46] aethlios : okcoin futures is a master manipulator.
[2016-11-20 18:04:54] mjones : futures has a ton of longs close to being margin called
[2016-11-20 18:05:00] mjones : 10% longs
[2016-11-20 18:05:04] mjones : 10x
[2016-11-20 18:05:16] dasdfasdf : mjones: How do you figure?
[2016-11-20 18:05:34] mjones : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2016-11-20 18:05:45] mjones : 50% longs are at
[2016-11-20 18:08:38] mjones : once $728 breaks on xbtz16 this should dump a bunch
[2016-11-20 18:11:35] arbitrage001 : going to close z16 if the premium fall further
[2016-11-20 18:11:52] Rado : arbitrage001: you are supposed to open a position when premium falls
[2016-11-20 18:11:54] Rado : not close it
[2016-11-20 18:11:56] mjones : yeah. contracts still high so we'll see how long those buying the dip can hold on
[2016-11-20 18:12:11] arbitrage001 : Rado: is shorting
[2016-11-20 18:12:14] arbitrage001 : close means buying
[2016-11-20 18:12:19] mjones : it can dip below index on xbtz16 if people get margin called and short
[2016-11-20 18:12:23] Rado : arbitrage001: ahh
[2016-11-20 18:12:27] Rado : good for you then
[2016-11-20 18:12:28] Rado : :-0
[2016-11-20 18:13:02] mjones : going down again
[2016-11-20 18:13:32] arbitrage001 : think it will puke to 650 next week
[2016-11-20 18:13:43] arbitrage001 : going up is hard, going down is very easy
[2016-11-20 18:13:44] Rado : arbitrage001: I don't think so
[2016-11-20 18:13:45] mjones : could get ugly
[2016-11-20 18:14:09] mjones : buy on china. dump on USD exchanges. then dump back down and fill buys
[2016-11-20 18:14:59] aethlios : 7 times tested 750 okcoin 3m
[2016-11-20 18:15:23] aethlios : so if 750 breaks then could dump 690-705
[2016-11-20 18:15:29] sleger : the eighth time is the charm
[2016-11-20 18:15:40] Tetsuo : aethlios: still no bouce
[2016-11-20 18:15:40] Rado : lol
[2016-11-20 18:16:25] wurstgelee : looks weak
[2016-11-20 18:16:30] aethlios : 3m contracts much more volatile to trade.
[2016-11-20 18:17:20] Rado : wurstgelee: looks very weak at the moment
[2016-11-20 18:17:30] aethlios : they will wipe out the overleveraged guys and collect their liwuidations cheap
[2016-11-20 18:17:31] Rado : need to see what happens in a few hours
[2016-11-20 18:17:32] Tetsuo : it looks pretty bad
[2016-11-20 18:17:36] Rado : where it will form a bottom
[2016-11-20 18:17:36] wurstgelee : i appreciate that
[2016-11-20 18:17:39] Rado : at least for now
[2016-11-20 18:17:52] aethlios : okcoin goes now
[2016-11-20 18:18:22] wurstgelee : wohoooo
[2016-11-20 18:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 718.42
[2016-11-20 18:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 231 @ 718.43
[2016-11-20 18:19:12] aethlios : they dump 1000s of contracts on 3m okcoin
[2016-11-20 18:19:20] aethlios : can't kull 750 support
[2016-11-20 18:19:45] lockhedge : china premium is still too high, premium on the quarterlies now too low imho
[2016-11-20 18:20:23] Rado : lockhedge: how much the premium at woodchipper?
[2016-11-20 18:20:25] mbaril : what will be the resistance
[2016-11-20 18:20:29] aethlios : lockhedge: both have 20 usd premium based on their index
[2016-11-20 18:21:07] aethlios : sellers exchausted, at most one more leg down.
[2016-11-20 18:22:14] wurstgelee : jesus...
[2016-11-20 18:22:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 718.13
[2016-11-20 18:22:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5350 @ 717.55
[2016-11-20 18:22:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 35500 @ 718.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-20 18:22:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 717.79
[2016-11-20 18:22:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 32881 @ 730.41 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-20 18:22:19] Tetsuo : A real chinese long squeeze could bring it down to 4800 within a day
[2016-11-20 18:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 716.54
[2016-11-20 18:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 716.31
[2016-11-20 18:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 36613 @ 729.32 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-20 18:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 32715 @ 729.27 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-20 18:22:29] dasdfasdf : You were saying?
[2016-11-20 18:22:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 20500 @ 728.05 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-20 18:22:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 37000 @ 727.33 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-20 18:22:32] wurstgelee : hehehe
[2016-11-20 18:22:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 715.62
[2016-11-20 18:22:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 27158 @ 725.24 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-20 18:22:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 715.13
[2016-11-20 18:22:47] Derreck : wow BTC is down again
[2016-11-20 18:23:08] mjones : 5001 CNY hit
[2016-11-20 18:23:11] mbaril : will 715 hold
[2016-11-20 18:23:23] mjones : see if 5000 CNY holds
[2016-11-20 18:23:24] Rado : no one knows
[2016-11-20 18:23:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 716.78
[2016-11-20 18:23:35] wurstgelee : my gut tells me we are done now
[2016-11-20 18:23:40] wurstgelee : i dont act on it ofc
[2016-11-20 18:23:41] Rado : but I think we are close to short term bottom
[2016-11-20 18:23:44] wurstgelee : just gut...
[2016-11-20 18:23:51] arbitrage001 : to 150 !
[2016-11-20 18:23:55] Rado : wurstgelee: gut is right most of the time
[2016-11-20 18:24:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-20 18:24:14] habibi : Rado: good short on monero, next time announce it few minutes earlier please :)
[2016-11-20 18:24:33] Rado : what do you mean earlier?
[2016-11-20 18:24:51] habibi : before i close my long scalps, mkay?
[2016-11-20 18:25:11] Rado : why did you close them if you think it's going up?
[2016-11-20 18:25:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.013160
[2016-11-20 18:25:32] habibi : Rado: nothing wrong in taking profit baby :)
[2016-11-20 18:25:38] wurstgelee : Rado: still xmr short?
[2016-11-20 18:25:40] Rado : true that
[2016-11-20 18:25:44] Rado : wurstgelee: yes
[2016-11-20 18:25:47] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-20 18:25:50] mjones : xbtz16 and xbtbtc almost same price
[2016-11-20 18:26:13] sleger : isnt xbtbtc=1?
[2016-11-20 18:26:25] Rado : yes
[2016-11-20 18:26:26] mjones : lol xbtusd
[2016-11-20 18:26:27] Rado : 1 USD
[2016-11-20 18:26:27] mjones : i mean
[2016-11-20 18:27:09] Rado : mjones: $13 premium
[2016-11-20 18:27:24] Tetsuo : can i buy xbtz16 for 1$ here an then send to polo?
[2016-11-20 18:28:01] mjones : was lower but xbtz16 bounces more
[2016-11-20 18:28:17] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: only trex, sorry
[2016-11-20 18:28:36] Tetsuo : Bitmex=scammers!
[2016-11-20 18:28:50] wurstgelee : trying to withdraw my zec for a while
[2016-11-20 18:28:52] wurstgelee : doesnt work
[2016-11-20 18:29:01] Tetsuo : Is it even real zec?
[2016-11-20 18:29:04] mjones : 0.046555 here
[2016-11-20 18:29:06] mjones : o_O
[2016-11-20 18:29:11] Tetsuo : does anyone know the owners of this place, wtf is goin on
[2016-11-20 18:29:12] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-20 18:29:16] wurstgelee : dump for .08ü on polo
[2016-11-20 18:29:17] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-20 18:29:29] Tetsuo : wow
[2016-11-20 18:29:34] habibi : Tetsuo: i couldnt withdraw my a50 shares that i bought long time ago, can u help me?
[2016-11-20 18:29:47] wurstgelee : zec squeeze will happen soon here
[2016-11-20 18:29:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 824 @ 0.013200
[2016-11-20 18:29:54] Tetsuo : rapidtrades is our local A50 support, plz PM him
[2016-11-20 18:29:57] wurstgelee : zec will have its play in upcoming #altareback
[2016-11-20 18:29:58] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: when
[2016-11-20 18:30:07] wurstgelee : see above
[2016-11-20 18:30:24] arbitrage001 : like to get rid of my 45 z at high profit
[2016-11-20 18:30:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-20 18:30:33] wurstgelee : 260 now
[2016-11-20 18:30:43] arbitrage001 : you are a brave man
[2016-11-20 18:30:49] wurstgelee : or stupid
[2016-11-20 18:30:55] wurstgelee : time will tell
[2016-11-20 18:31:08] arbitrage001 : either die a rich man or a poor man
[2016-11-20 18:31:20] wurstgelee : no poor tho
[2016-11-20 18:31:50] wurstgelee : ~ 22% of zec profits at risk atm
[2016-11-20 18:31:55] wurstgelee : and only of we dump to 0
[2016-11-20 18:32:11] arbitrage001 : you could own the entire zec supply
[2016-11-20 18:32:16] arbitrage001 : and make the price
[2016-11-20 18:32:24] wurstgelee : mebbe i am .08 @ polo 8)
[2016-11-20 18:33:13] arbitrage001 : suprise finex lending rate is still high
[2016-11-20 18:33:25] arbitrage001 : guess many people withdraw their usd
[2016-11-20 18:33:27] Rado : 20,000 XBT traded here
[2016-11-20 18:34:56] Rado : BitMEX $5 mill more volume than Bitfinex which is second
[2016-11-20 18:35:35] arbitrage001 : can increase even more volume if fee is lower
[2016-11-20 18:35:51] arbitrage001 : attract all kind of players into the exhcnage
[2016-11-20 18:36:38] wurstgelee : do we want that? ;)
[2016-11-20 18:36:46] arbitrage001 : of course not
[2016-11-20 18:36:51] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-20 18:37:02] wurstgelee : rememer the polo/zec invasion.....
[2016-11-20 18:37:04] wurstgelee : *b
[2016-11-20 18:37:15] arbitrage001 : harder to make money if market is efficient
[2016-11-20 18:37:18] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-20 18:37:20] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-20 18:38:05] anonymous789 : glad i haven't closed my short from 743
[2016-11-20 18:38:13] anonymous789 : this is why i always wait for confirmation
[2016-11-20 18:38:43] wurstgelee : u would have done better if you had cut or losses and opened higher tho ;)
[2016-11-20 18:38:53] anonymous789 : that's not the strategy though
[2016-11-20 18:38:58] anonymous789 : and that's higher risk too
[2016-11-20 18:38:58] wurstgelee : obviously not
[2016-11-20 18:39:00] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-20 18:41:04] anonymous789 : funy thing is i made 10% profit from the funding rate holding like 3 days
[2016-11-20 18:41:07] anonymous789 : and now i'm in profit too
[2016-11-20 18:41:21] wurstgelee : oh right, i forgot about funding
[2016-11-20 18:41:27] wurstgelee : yep, that was quite a lot
[2016-11-20 18:41:35] anonymous789 : yeah i was break even at 750
[2016-11-20 18:41:40] anonymous789 : even though entry was 743
[2016-11-20 18:41:46] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-20 18:42:46] wurstgelee : lol wtf
[2016-11-20 18:42:49] wurstgelee : 5005 hit
[2016-11-20 18:42:50] wurstgelee : okc
[2016-11-20 18:42:55] anonymous789 : wow china droping
[2016-11-20 18:43:04] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-20 18:43:07] anonymous789 : see if it gets below 5k
[2016-11-20 18:43:11] dasdfasdf : hey, you guys said it was done...
[2016-11-20 18:43:28] Dtrade16 : we'll be back to 710ish
[2016-11-20 18:43:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 78947 @ 715.06 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-20 18:43:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 714.88
[2016-11-20 18:43:51] anonymous789 : i guess it will be lower than 710 if it drops below 5k on okc
[2016-11-20 18:44:12] wurstgelee : 711 xbt usd here
[2016-11-20 18:44:37] anonymous789 : 2 dollar spread
[2016-11-20 18:44:53] Dtrade16 : I trust my gut
[2016-11-20 18:45:35] Dtrade16 : I bought ETH but it aint moving
[2016-11-20 18:45:43] Dtrade16 : What a bad buy
[2016-11-20 18:46:09] anonymous789 : Dtrade16: will be a great buy next year
[2016-11-20 18:46:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 210 @ 714.26
[2016-11-20 18:46:42] Dtrade16 : Why
[2016-11-20 18:46:45] sleger : 5000 going to brak
[2016-11-20 18:46:49] sleger : *break
[2016-11-20 18:46:51] anonymous789 : yea testing
[2016-11-20 18:46:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 462 @ 713.95
[2016-11-20 18:46:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 89000 @ 714.01 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-20 18:46:52] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-11-20 18:46:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 71018 @ 713.24 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-20 18:46:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 713.21
[2016-11-20 18:46:59] anonymous789 : 5k broke
[2016-11-20 18:47:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 712.88
[2016-11-20 18:47:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 55 @ 712.56
[2016-11-20 18:47:25] anonymous789 : freefall?
[2016-11-20 18:47:26] habibi : bitmex fix this site ffs
[2016-11-20 18:47:32] arbitrage001 : now this is panic
[2016-11-20 18:47:38] Dtrade16 : Isn't china asleep yet jez
[2016-11-20 18:47:40] arbitrage001 : run
[2016-11-20 18:47:48] miccheck12 : sun is rising in china atm
[2016-11-20 18:47:54] wurstgelee : will it hold?
[2016-11-20 18:47:55] anonymous789 : i'm still short from 743 so it's good for me atm
[2016-11-20 18:47:55] arbitrage001 : china bots d o notn need to sleep
[2016-11-20 18:47:57] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-20 18:48:06] Dtrade16 : true
[2016-11-20 18:48:28] Dtrade16 : this is a decent buy right now I think
[2016-11-20 18:48:43] arbitrage001 : dont catch falling knive
[2016-11-20 18:48:51] Kalman : arbitrage001: +1
[2016-11-20 18:48:55] arbitrage001 : even if you win, your hand will bleed
[2016-11-20 18:48:55] anonymous789 : arbitrage001: agreed
[2016-11-20 18:48:57] Dtrade16 : maybe 700-15 range is good cause we'll prob rip back up to 750s again sure enough
[2016-11-20 18:49:18] anonymous789 : 4955 cny is support i think
[2016-11-20 18:49:21] Dtrade16 : Slowly accumulate
[2016-11-20 18:49:25] anonymous789 : let's see if it breaks below that
[2016-11-20 18:49:36] Dtrade16 : You don't gotta go all in
[2016-11-20 18:49:38] JamesPolo : There is no support
[2016-11-20 18:49:39] anonymous789 : or if the double top on the weekly is confirmed, the next couple of weeks could be brutal
[2016-11-20 18:49:42] JamesPolo : anonymous789: support is a myth
[2016-11-20 18:49:48] sleger : youbi didnt break 5k
[2016-11-20 18:49:54] JamesPolo : Btc to 1$ 2017
[2016-11-20 18:49:58] arbitrage001 : i will support btc at 150
[2016-11-20 18:50:34] Kalman : sleger: yet
[2016-11-20 18:50:37] Derreck : I hope BTC will not break past 700
[2016-11-20 18:50:45] Tetsuo : JamesPolo: 80$ will probably hold
[2016-11-20 18:50:56] sleger : Kalman: that's what "didnt" means
[2016-11-20 18:50:57] arbitrage001 : @Derreck most likely will
[2016-11-20 18:50:59] Kalman : Derreck: hope isnt a strategy
[2016-11-20 18:51:38] wurstgelee : bought some
[2016-11-20 18:51:57] wurstgelee : 710 seemed like worth a shot
[2016-11-20 18:51:58] arbitrage001 : money all jammed out here
[2016-11-20 18:52:01] arbitrage001 : cant buy and sell
[2016-11-20 18:52:14] wurstgelee : still have some fluent btc. luckily
[2016-11-20 18:52:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-20 18:52:31] Kalman : sleger: referring to something that will or may happen in the future
[2016-11-20 18:52:49] arbitrage001 : let's talk trading, not grammar
[2016-11-20 18:52:59] Kalman : arbitrage001: +1
[2016-11-20 18:53:17] wurstgelee : so.....who bought alts? or is now?
[2016-11-20 18:53:20] sleger : at least with grammar you have a chance of doing it right @arbitrage001
[2016-11-20 18:54:04] anonymous789 : if this gets back up to 718, the floor's in at 710, i'm looking to close my short at 711
[2016-11-20 18:54:31] wurstgelee : i'd appreciate having bought the floor
[2016-11-20 18:55:09] anonymous789 : i'd be looking to buy any extension of teh price, say into the 705-708 range
[2016-11-20 18:55:13] anonymous789 : the*
[2016-11-20 18:56:00] anonymous789 : rephrase a bit, if the hourly candle closes above 718* not if this reaches 718
[2016-11-20 18:56:13] arbitrage001 : order book not loading
[2016-11-20 18:56:26] arbitrage001 : just me or everyone else
[2016-11-20 18:56:26] wurstgelee : refresh
[2016-11-20 18:56:27] wurstgelee : it works
[2016-11-20 18:58:54] sebaas : wurstgelee: still long on XMR?
[2016-11-20 18:59:19] wurstgelee : xmr, fct, xrp, rep, etc and eth
[2016-11-20 18:59:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-20 18:59:23] anonymous789 : bah i was looking at the houlry
[2016-11-20 18:59:27] wurstgelee : oh and zec ofc
[2016-11-20 18:59:28] anonymous789 : i mean 15min*
[2016-11-20 19:00:03] sebaas : ok clearly you believe the btc rally is postponed until further notice
[2016-11-20 19:00:12] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-20 19:00:22] anonymous789 : this correction was well needed
[2016-11-20 19:00:33] wurstgelee : thats not why i longed everything tho
[2016-11-20 19:00:40] wurstgelee : i did it as soon as btc dumped
[2016-11-20 19:00:47] wurstgelee : for short term bounces of alts :)
[2016-11-20 19:00:58] wurstgelee : holding for now since it turned out to be a serious dump
[2016-11-20 19:02:52] sebaas : it is a severe one yes,
[2016-11-20 19:02:57] sebaas : you reckon 5k will hold?
[2016-11-20 19:03:28] wurstgelee : no clue
[2016-11-20 19:03:30] anonymous789 : sitting right on top of the trendline on the daily, if it breaks this trendline i'm thinking 680 is next
[2016-11-20 19:03:37] wurstgelee : not that important for me tho
[2016-11-20 19:03:58] wurstgelee : but i have a bet it will (longed 710)
[2016-11-20 19:04:50] anonymous789 : chinese-wise i expect there to be some serious support at 4960ish
[2016-11-20 19:05:11] thomaskikansha : full retrace of that earlier spike up would be somewhere like 4950
[2016-11-20 19:05:14] mjones : $3 away from xbtz16 new low
[2016-11-20 19:05:30] anonymous789 : thomaskikansha: yup that's why i say around there
[2016-11-20 19:06:46] wurstgelee : i say we're done and low is in
[2016-11-20 19:07:08] Rado : This dump is not in big volume
[2016-11-20 19:07:19] Rado : but also no meaningful bounce yet
[2016-11-20 19:07:34] wurstgelee : yeah, thats the only thing that concernes me
[2016-11-20 19:07:45] y1uy : #NotMyCrytoCurrency
[2016-11-20 19:07:49] wurstgelee : *-e
[2016-11-20 19:07:49] anonymous789 : Rado: double top forming on daily though
[2016-11-20 19:08:17] thomaskikansha : for usd exchanges only
[2016-11-20 19:08:18] sebaas : wurstgelee: wouldn't you agree that it's actually better/easier to short alts on btc up momvement than the other way around? It seems the moves for alts downwards when btc rises are larger than the rebounds when btc drops
[2016-11-20 19:08:40] anonymous789 : neckline is around 690-700
[2016-11-20 19:08:44] thomaskikansha : for cny exchanges it was an obvious new high
[2016-11-20 19:08:56] wurstgelee : wouldnt say its better or easier but it's an option
[2016-11-20 19:09:18] wurstgelee : i prefer longing btc when its going up and longing alts when its going down ;)
[2016-11-20 19:09:26] sebaas : fair enough :)
[2016-11-20 19:09:45] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: shorting btc is indeed highly risky lol
[2016-11-20 19:09:52] wurstgelee : anonymous789: ;)
[2016-11-20 19:10:18] Kalman : anonymous789: neckline 570 ?!
[2016-11-20 19:10:32] anonymous789 : Kalman: daily is what i'm looking at
[2016-11-20 19:10:38] anonymous789 : maybe weekly is lower
[2016-11-20 19:10:44] wurstgelee : regarding what i said about bottom earlier... oO
[2016-11-20 19:11:21] anonymous789 : yes the weekly is nearer 570
[2016-11-20 19:11:29] habibi : btw where are the guys that were calling for 800-900 and then boom ath :D?
[2016-11-20 19:12:19] wurstgelee : such xbtusd fomo oO
[2016-11-20 19:12:30] Kalman : habibi: rekt
[2016-11-20 19:13:10] wurstgelee : there is some bounce attempt
[2016-11-20 19:13:11] thomaskikansha : finally bouncing
[2016-11-20 19:13:13] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-20 19:13:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2265 @ 717.58
[2016-11-20 19:13:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 718.13
[2016-11-20 19:13:23] arbitrage001 : wasnt done converting
[2016-11-20 19:13:24] wurstgelee : time to rekt shorts
[2016-11-20 19:13:25] arbitrage001 : so sad
[2016-11-20 19:13:45] habibi : bitmex_wally can u fix this page? working so slooooow during action
[2016-11-20 19:14:05] Rado : habibi: which page?
[2016-11-20 19:14:15] anonymous789 : still looks bearish to me
[2016-11-20 19:14:18] habibi : Rado: of course google.com
[2016-11-20 19:15:02] Rado : habibi: if you mean the whole BitMEX application you shouldn't use "page"
[2016-11-20 19:15:08] Rado : dumb ass
[2016-11-20 19:15:36] habibi : Rado: oh, my bad. U need to calm down and loose less money
[2016-11-20 19:16:27] Rado : habibi: how did you figure I am losing?
[2016-11-20 19:16:42] Rado : or you assume if you are everyone else must be
[2016-11-20 19:17:19] habibi : Rado: ur nick is blue - blue are top losers here
[2016-11-20 19:17:41] anonymous789 : trollbox living up to its name
[2016-11-20 19:18:24] Kalman : mkt is so booring ;)
[2016-11-20 19:18:41] Dtrade16 : habibi: +1
[2016-11-20 19:20:08] Dtrade16 : Who was I arguing with about btc going to 795? I forgot
[2016-11-20 19:20:28] habibi : Dtrade16: it was definitely Rado
[2016-11-20 19:20:36] Dtrade16 : Really? Lol
[2016-11-20 19:20:42] habibi : no idea tbh :)
[2016-11-20 19:20:54] Dtrade16 : I dont remember
[2016-11-20 19:21:06] y1uy : where do i check the leaderboard?
[2016-11-20 19:21:15] anonymous789 : sometimes i wonder where people get these arbitrary numbers from, the resistance is at 770, it would probably fly past 795 if it got there
[2016-11-20 19:22:03] y1uy : swing high / lows @anonymous789
[2016-11-20 19:25:51] Rado : Dtrade16: where do you think BTC is going from here?
[2016-11-20 19:30:00] Bacon futures trader : lol, have been trying to go long since 740 and actually made some profit
[2016-11-20 19:30:08] +1 : ...
[2016-11-20 19:30:59] anonymous789 : Bacon futures trader: so bacon looking to correct soon?
[2016-11-20 19:34:05] Bacon futures trader : Meh, higher tf looks like shit. See if we can close today above 5150 cny
[2016-11-20 19:37:23] l3f : This is thr shakeout before the real pump
[2016-11-20 19:37:41] l3f : Just hold on to your butts
[2016-11-20 19:37:53] XBT_Saver : l3f: target?
[2016-11-20 19:38:12] anonymous789 : l3f: i'm not convinced yet
[2016-11-20 19:38:29] Rado : anonymous789: of course
[2016-11-20 19:38:33] l3f : It may go sideways a bit first
[2016-11-20 19:38:43] Rado : when you are convinced it's to late to get in
[2016-11-20 19:38:47] Bacon futures trader : shorts about to get liquidated here lol
[2016-11-20 19:39:12] Kalman : sure
[2016-11-20 19:39:15] l3f : Whenever you think it is too late to get in
[2016-11-20 19:39:16] XBT_Saver : still think we will hit +$1000 by the end of the year? @l3f
[2016-11-20 19:39:44] l3f : XBT_Saver: 800
[2016-11-20 19:39:49] anonymous789 : Rado: i'm still holding that short from 743 you know, sometimes it's better to be convinced first = more profit
[2016-11-20 19:40:41] Rado : anonymous789: sometimes it works
[2016-11-20 19:40:46] Rado : sometimes it doesn't
[2016-11-20 19:41:05] anonymous789 : and if it doesn't, usually it doesn't end badly
[2016-11-20 19:41:21] Rado : i just follow price and leave my opinion for comments concerning assholes like habibi
[2016-11-20 19:41:42] habibi : Rado: ;*
[2016-11-20 19:42:28] XBT_Saver : who got my liquidation? I want my contracts back. rofl
[2016-11-20 19:42:46] zcashequalslambo : why is monero falling again
[2016-11-20 19:43:11] Kalman : more sellers than ...
[2016-11-20 19:43:14] b1tn1k : uncertainty
[2016-11-20 19:45:31] Rado : I told you to short all shit coins on this BTC dump
[2016-11-20 19:45:57] Rado : They pop for an hour and then resume the downtrend
[2016-11-20 19:46:20] mjones : shit
[2016-11-20 19:46:22] Bacon futures trader : decent bounce so far
[2016-11-20 19:46:23] mjones : i gotta fomo long
[2016-11-20 19:46:33] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-20 19:46:35] mjones : might never be this low ever again
[2016-11-20 19:46:37] wurstgelee : already fomo'd ;)
[2016-11-20 19:46:59] wurstgelee : also rebought some btc i sold yesterday
[2016-11-20 19:47:23] mjones : xbtz16 fell $97
[2016-11-20 19:48:15] mjones : open contracts down 50k from the high
[2016-11-20 19:48:23] habibi : Rado: u said sth way different http://prntscr.com/d9p6du
[2016-11-20 19:48:36] mjones : lol habibi
[2016-11-20 19:49:10] Rado : Ha ha
[2016-11-20 19:49:23] Rado : forger
[2016-11-20 19:54:22] sleger : Rado: lying is bad but you know what is worse?
[2016-11-20 19:54:30] sleger : being exposed by habibi !
[2016-11-20 19:54:58] Rado : Lol
[2016-11-20 19:55:21] Rado : I never lie
[2016-11-20 19:55:37] Rado : my religion doesn't allow me
[2016-11-20 20:05:35] Bacon futures trader : squeeze it.
[2016-11-20 20:17:26] Hoble : what's happened to the stop loss option that had two fields?
[2016-11-20 20:17:36] Hoble : stop and trigger?
[2016-11-20 20:18:12] BitMEX_Sam : Hoble: It hasn't changed, perhaps you're looking for Stop Limit
[2016-11-20 20:18:58] Hoble : thanks found it!
[2016-11-20 20:19:54] Hoble : have you guys done a blog post about using stop losses, pros & cons of the different ones?
[2016-11-20 20:21:14] BitMEX_Greg : Hoble: No we haven't
[2016-11-20 20:21:56] BitMEX_Greg : Good idea though, I can bring it up with Arthur. However the information would be similar to what you will probably read by googling it
[2016-11-20 20:24:54] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: thx for adding that preference for amend notifications. however it seems to have introduced a bug.. the checkboxes for notifications are affecting the wrong things in weird ways
[2016-11-20 20:25:22] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Hmm, I'll take a look at it. What are you seeing?
[2016-11-20 20:26:50] j8 : i disable notifications for amend, and it enables notifications for order place (checkboxes are different after refresh)
[2016-11-20 20:27:49] j8 : then i disable it for order submitted and it enabled it for order cancel
[2016-11-20 20:28:38] j8 : whack-a-mole, basically
[2016-11-20 20:28:40] BitMEX_Sam : I am seeing that too locally - thanks j8 - I'll push out a fix asap
[2016-11-20 20:28:47] j8 : cool
[2016-11-20 21:00:09] mjones : fuck it. i'll long it now
[2016-11-20 21:12:23] m.m : i want to close my first position at a certain price, will i be able to change the closing price later if things change drastically?
[2016-11-20 21:14:25] m.m : i should do a micro trade on another contract to get the hang of it
[2016-11-20 21:14:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 120 @ 81095
[2016-11-20 21:21:59] rapidtrades : m.m: https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-11-20 21:25:40] m.m : nice! checking it out.
[2016-11-20 21:35:06] wurstgelee : even zec is green on polo today :p
[2016-11-20 21:51:46] Dtrade16 : Rado: idk. I think there will be more hacks eventually though and it might fall to mid 500s for a bit again
[2016-11-20 21:54:10] Rado : https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/800412083288416256
[2016-11-20 21:54:26] Rado : Dtrade16: writing it down to make fun of you later
[2016-11-20 21:54:32] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-20 21:54:54] Rado : not sure who was the guy that called 795, but not nice to mock people because they make calls
[2016-11-20 21:55:00] Rado : they are brave enough to do it
[2016-11-20 21:56:15] habibi : Rado: its not nice to tell people what is not nice
[2016-11-20 21:56:20] Dtrade16 : I was getting mocked bud
[2016-11-20 21:56:23] Dtrade16 : cause I said no way
[2016-11-20 21:56:26] Rado : habibi: lol
[2016-11-20 21:56:41] Dtrade16 : And why would you laugh at that?
[2016-11-20 21:56:53] Dtrade16 : Are you suggesting that btc will never get hacked again?
[2016-11-20 21:56:54] Rado : laughing at habibi's comment
[2016-11-20 21:57:03] Dtrade16 : I mean a major exchance?
[2016-11-20 21:57:07] Dtrade16 : exchange
[2016-11-20 21:57:34] Rado : Dtrade16: as you can see the Bitfinex hack was small blip
[2016-11-20 21:57:50] Rado : the price recovered
[2016-11-20 21:57:51] Dtrade16 : a small blip?
[2016-11-20 21:57:59] Rado : it's not about exchanges getting hacked
[2016-11-20 21:57:59] Dtrade16 : yah im not saying it wont
[2016-11-20 21:58:07] Rado : BTC is here to stay
[2016-11-20 21:58:16] Rado : I am going out
[2016-11-20 21:58:18] Dtrade16 : Im just saying it's going to constantly happen
[2016-11-20 21:58:21] Rado : talk to you later punks
[2016-11-20 21:58:26] wurstgelee : cu
[2016-11-20 21:58:53] Dtrade16 : ez rado watch
[2016-11-20 22:02:14] Dtrade16 : will alts pump tmw if btc stays down?
[2016-11-20 22:02:24] sleger : someone wants to buy 400k here
[2016-11-20 22:02:35] wurstgelee : sleger: y u want to buy 400k?
[2016-11-20 22:02:37] Dtrade16 : also how come the usd pairs aren't moving and btc ones are?
[2016-11-20 22:03:21] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Thanks again for the report, those preferences are now working as intended.
[2016-11-20 22:03:31] j8 : excellent
[2016-11-20 22:03:57] sleger : when I code, I use this trick i found that saves a LOT of time
[2016-11-20 22:04:07] sleger : i dont make any bugs, life is so much easier after
[2016-11-20 22:04:30] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-20 22:05:03] j8 : just rip off your backspace key, you'll get way more done
[2016-11-20 22:05:22] habibi : 1000's of bitcoin traded every minute and look what happens if u sell couple hundreds http://prntscr.com/d9qyeg
[2016-11-20 22:05:45] BitMEX_Sam : It's almost like they're volumizing...
[2016-11-20 22:06:19] wurstgelee : yep. as if.... 8)
[2016-11-20 22:13:29] Bacon futures trader : These 5060s might be solid s
[2016-11-20 22:14:32] Bacon futures trader : Anything below was bought and this was actually the retest. Let's see if we can hold above.
[2016-11-20 22:15:15] habibi : that was 1 minute chart...
[2016-11-20 22:19:03] Bacon futures trader : Watch a 5 minute or 30 minute chart
[2016-11-20 22:21:42] habibi : eh nvm :)
[2016-11-20 22:24:44] wurstgelee : looking not to bad atm tho
[2016-11-20 22:24:53] wurstgelee : a nice V if it keeps going
[2016-11-20 22:24:58] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-11-20 22:28:39] mjones : i gotta add to my long
[2016-11-20 22:30:11] wurstgelee : let the fomo flow through you
[2016-11-20 22:32:27] m.m : i just closed a 7 btc position expecting 33% with 100x leverage
[2016-11-20 22:32:51] sleger : expecting ?
[2016-11-20 22:32:52] m.m : but i didnt receive any money
[2016-11-20 22:32:59] wurstgelee : ?
[2016-11-20 22:33:26] sleger : did you check your mailbox ?
[2016-11-20 22:33:37] wurstgelee : check under the doormat too
[2016-11-20 22:35:12] m.m : maybe im not getting something...this is a new position, i have slider on 25x
[2016-11-20 22:35:37] m.m : margin reads: 0.2135 XBT (24.31x)
[2016-11-20 22:36:04] m.m : unrealised PNL: 0.0058 XBT (2.84%)
[2016-11-20 22:36:50] m.m : if i want to take that unrealised % how do ii properly close my trade?
[2016-11-20 22:37:13] m.m : im in green
[2016-11-20 22:37:32] m.m : i want to even slide it more to the right to 50x or 100x, but take the percentage
[2016-11-20 22:37:33] wurstgelee : u cant take the upnl, u have to close ur position with an opposite trade
[2016-11-20 22:37:36] m.m : it did not happen last time
[2016-11-20 22:37:43] Bacon futures trader : U can close market or you could place a limit order
[2016-11-20 22:37:43] wurstgelee : if u are short 1000 contracts, u have to buy 1000
[2016-11-20 22:37:58] wurstgelee : upnl is just a value depending on entry and mark price
[2016-11-20 22:38:33] m.m : ok, so i dont close the position, but rrather buy the same number of contracts on the opposite direction?
[2016-11-20 22:39:16] wurstgelee : that IS closing
[2016-11-20 22:42:23] j8 : m.m: the ROE and PNL shown are usually pretty different from what you'll get if you market close. that's because it's based on the mark price, not the orderbook
[2016-11-20 22:42:39] j8 : and doesn't account for fees
[2016-11-20 22:47:12] m.m : i bought 3690 @ 724.33 and sold 3690 @ 724.92 ... 0.0814545856 x 100 = 8.14545856%
[2016-11-20 22:47:41] j8 : fees make that a losing trade, if you paid the taker fee
[2016-11-20 22:47:56] j8 : 0.075% each way
[2016-11-20 22:49:01] rapidtrades : https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trump-not-moving-into-white-house-in-january-reports-181652896.html
[2016-11-20 22:49:45] m.m : but thats like 300 usd
[2016-11-20 22:50:56] j8 : no it's like 3 usd
[2016-11-20 22:51:03] sleger : nice try
[2016-11-20 22:58:53] QuantFocus : m.m: you don't multiply by 100.
[2016-11-20 22:59:15] QuantFocus : you just have the ability to trade 100x your collateral
[2016-11-20 23:00:50] m.m : what do you mean exactly? how do i exercise that ability then?
[2016-11-20 23:01:13] sleger : m.m: buy 349000
[2016-11-20 23:01:24] sleger : use market order ideally
[2016-11-20 23:02:17] QuantFocus : yea...what @sleger said :thumbsup:
[2016-11-20 23:03:43] QuantFocus : m.m: i.e. you have 1btc on deposit, you can trade 100btc worth of contracts, which is approximately 72,500 contracts on xbt usd
[2016-11-20 23:03:59] QuantFocus : you don't get 100x return on every trade, unless you utilize 100x leverage
[2016-11-20 23:06:45] m.m : its getting clearer.
[2016-11-20 23:07:09] m.m : with more leverage the cost goes down
[2016-11-20 23:07:15] m.m : of purchase
[2016-11-20 23:07:51] m.m : does it matter where the slider is at moment of purchase?
[2016-11-20 23:09:44] miramm1115 : slider affects the margin allocated for position, nothing else. everything else (fees, PNL) depends on the order size only
[2016-11-20 23:09:58] QuantFocus : yep
[2016-11-20 23:10:43] miramm1115 : who ate all that premium on quarterly?
[2016-11-20 23:14:39] Dtrade16 : Why is the usd eth pair not moving?
[2016-11-20 23:14:45] Dtrade16 : any1?
[2016-11-20 23:15:15] miramm1115 : oh I see, over 500k in liquidations on XBTZ16
[2016-11-20 23:16:01] j8 : yeah that happened fast
[2016-11-20 23:21:15] m.m : so yeah i was buying few contracts...
[2016-11-20 23:22:06] m.m : i still dont understand the margin then. and how does this affect closing a position.
[2016-11-20 23:23:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 4 @ 0.005882
[2016-11-20 23:23:25] m.m : if im in green zone, not in danger whatsoever of getting margin called..
[2016-11-20 23:23:57] m.m : if im LONG i simply sell at the price i want, the slider doesnt matter at that point. correct?
[2016-11-20 23:24:42] j8 : correct
[2016-11-20 23:24:45] m.m : as i have already a shit load of contracts?
[2016-11-20 23:24:46] m.m : OK
[2016-11-20 23:25:49] j8 : the slider is for your position, not the order, and you can only have one position per market
[2016-11-20 23:26:04] wurstgelee : come on btc, paint that beautiful V :)
[2016-11-20 23:26:44] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: it's going to correct further