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[2016-11-18 14:35:34] anonymous789 : if you close a position at market rate, it doesn't close at mark price does it?
[2016-11-18 14:37:00] BitMEX_Sam : anonymous789: No, those are different. Mark Price is the system's idea of the value of the contract, but when you market close the price you get depends on the orders in the book
[2016-11-18 14:37:23] anonymous789 : BitMEX_Sam: aah thanks yeah that's what i thought, just confirming
[2016-11-18 14:37:34] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-11-18 14:38:16] huangyong : ?
[2016-11-18 14:39:18] elmorte : Rado: nice paint skillz
[2016-11-18 14:39:27] Rado : he he
[2016-11-18 14:42:51] Rado : ETH now higher volume than XMR on Polo
[2016-11-18 14:43:01] Rado : hasn't been the leader in some time now
[2016-11-18 14:44:39] meh : 60k long here? brave ppl here ^^
[2016-11-18 14:45:02] elmorte : Mostly traded on USDT there
[2016-11-18 14:46:01] Rado : meh: 60k is not that much
[2016-11-18 14:46:15] Rado : you only need 1 BTC
[2016-11-18 14:46:29] meh : too much risk imo
[2016-11-18 14:46:39] Rado : not really
[2016-11-18 14:46:47] Rado : right now BTC is not moving much
[2016-11-18 14:46:49] sleger : well maybe he is very poor
[2016-11-18 14:46:50] meh : short dip and you are out
[2016-11-18 14:46:54] sleger : or from ethiopia
[2016-11-18 14:46:55] Rado : you can easily put a "good" stop
[2016-11-18 14:47:37] Rado : meh: if you only have 1 BTC I will not recoomend to buy 60k contracts
[2016-11-18 14:48:00] Rado : but if your account has 50 BTC then it's just a normal trade
[2016-11-18 14:48:24] Rado : it's all relative
[2016-11-18 14:48:31] meh : thats another cup of tee
[2016-11-18 14:50:20] sleger : meh: are you sure?
[2016-11-18 14:50:46] sleger : like this one ? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjTjcbZxrLQAhVGLSYKHZaVD24QjBwIBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.dreamstime.com%2Fz%2Fcup-tee-24535817.jpg&psig=AFQjCNHa5xIStGw_WkQZtNJmC8i3zka50g&ust=1479566989790676
[2016-11-18 14:50:57] meh : but for fuck sake you started with "60k is not that much you need only 1 BTC", sure but risk would be too high and holding 50b @ MEX feels to risky too to me
[2016-11-18 14:51:33] meh : u know do whatever pleases you
[2016-11-18 14:52:03] sleger : some people have hundreds of thousands of positions here you know
[2016-11-18 14:52:17] sleger : they're mostly assholes though
[2016-11-18 14:52:33] wurstgelee : lol =)
[2016-11-18 14:53:14] meh : i do, and i appreciate the liquidity but its nothing for me, put 100BTC into coinjoin and take the hodl approach :p
[2016-11-18 14:54:56] Rado : meh: why are you here if you don't want to trade?
[2016-11-18 14:55:17] Rado : Trollbox is entertaining
[2016-11-18 15:15:08] wurstgelee : choo choo? or not to choo choo
[2016-11-18 15:15:47] BitMEX_Sam : :train:
[2016-11-18 15:15:50] wurstgelee : new year high stamp ;)
[2016-11-18 15:16:06] BitMEX_Sam : :bullettrain_side:
[2016-11-18 15:16:11] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-18 15:16:34] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: watch the sell-off :P
[2016-11-18 15:16:39] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-18 15:16:56] anonymous789 : wish i'd shorted at this level now lol
[2016-11-18 15:17:07] wurstgelee : do it
[2016-11-18 15:17:09] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-18 15:17:41] anonymous789 : nah i'm a terrible money manager, i have all my eggs in one basket
[2016-11-18 15:17:45] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-18 15:17:48] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-18 15:17:51] thomaskikansha : 778 to beat stamp
[2016-11-18 15:18:11] anonymous789 : so i'm still holding that short at 43
[2016-11-18 15:18:13] anonymous789 : 743*
[2016-11-18 15:18:30] wurstgelee : the one from yesterday?
[2016-11-18 15:18:32] anonymous789 : yeah
[2016-11-18 15:19:06] anonymous789 : funding rate was making it easier to hold the posiiton
[2016-11-18 15:19:09] anonymous789 : position*
[2016-11-18 15:19:33] wurstgelee : predicted next funding is positive now ;)
[2016-11-18 15:20:28] anonymous789 : :)
[2016-11-18 15:30:53] anonymous789 : this slow pump has been going on for ~18 hours now
[2016-11-18 15:32:55] rapidtrades : $44 premium ain't bad for 41 days
[2016-11-18 15:33:20] rapidtrades : that's 0.14% per day
[2016-11-18 15:34:39] rapidtrades : 52% per annum lol
[2016-11-18 15:37:07] anonymous789 : rapidtrades: i dont know how these futures work
[2016-11-18 15:37:18] rapidtrades : new lows for Euro
[2016-11-18 15:37:59] anonymous789 : reversal hammer on the hourly in okcoin?
[2016-11-18 15:38:10] anonymous789 : lol woodchipper
[2016-11-18 15:38:12] anonymous789 : okc*
[2016-11-18 15:42:54] Dtrade16 : morning
[2016-11-18 15:48:21] aaa : morning, murica
[2016-11-18 15:48:53] rapidtrades : God Bless Donald Trump and his transition cabinet!
[2016-11-18 15:50:44] Dtrade16 : Canada actually
[2016-11-18 15:51:10] Rado : rapidtrades: good for your FX trading?
[2016-11-18 15:51:29] rapidtrades : yes making $$$
[2016-11-18 15:51:39] Rado : nice
[2016-11-18 15:51:52] rapidtrades : sizes are somewhat small though cos of that volatility spike right before this trend
[2016-11-18 15:52:14] rapidtrades : i am short euro and long usd/jpy
[2016-11-18 15:52:30] rapidtrades : also long usdrub but that's not moving much atm
[2016-11-18 15:53:03] Rado : need to get on FX soon
[2016-11-18 15:53:11] Rado : rapidtrades: sleger also trades FX?
[2016-11-18 15:53:33] elmorte : Trades? He owns it
[2016-11-18 15:53:47] rapidtrades : me makes markets in fx, doesn't trade directionally i think @Rado
[2016-11-18 15:53:59] rapidtrades : he*
[2016-11-18 15:54:40] Rado : k
[2016-11-18 15:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 22500 @ 790.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-18 15:55:46] Rado : ops
[2016-11-18 15:55:49] rapidtrades : 22k is mega rekt?
[2016-11-18 15:56:40] martinium : thats only about 0.29 btc
[2016-11-18 15:56:43] martinium : if at 100x
[2016-11-18 15:56:45] Rado : for ZBTZ16
[2016-11-18 15:58:24] BitMEX_Sam : Two new order types are now live (please refresh): `Take Profit` and `Take Profit Market`
[2016-11-18 15:58:27] bernx : пуе куфвн
[2016-11-18 15:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 748.27 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-18 15:58:32] bernx : get ready
[2016-11-18 15:59:31] anonymous789 : bernx: for?
[2016-11-18 15:59:40] Rado : rekt rekt rekt
[2016-11-18 15:59:46] anonymous789 : which way?
[2016-11-18 15:59:54] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: nice. What do they do?
[2016-11-18 16:00:02] Rado : down
[2016-11-18 16:00:11] anonymous789 : Rado: agreed
[2016-11-18 16:00:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2700 @ 747.42
[2016-11-18 16:00:14] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: They're like stops, but the trigger works the opposite way.
[2016-11-18 16:00:25] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ#Take-Profit-Orders
[2016-11-18 16:00:29] Rado : anonymous789: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/ri4fFB2E-More-consolidation-for-BTC/
[2016-11-18 16:00:57] anonymous789 : yeah i see it on the chinese chart just broke the uptrend
[2016-11-18 16:01:04] rapidtrades : not seeing takeproit
[2016-11-18 16:01:06] anonymous789 : towards the downside
[2016-11-18 16:01:10] elmorte : I believe that's what I've been hoping for for months
[2016-11-18 16:01:45] elmorte : Indeed. Cheers @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-11-18 16:01:58] rapidtrades : oh it's in a dropbox now
[2016-11-18 16:02:01] anonymous789 : next support i see around the 5130 cny level
[2016-11-18 16:02:24] rapidtrades : it would be better if its on the current open position and easily amendable
[2016-11-18 16:03:01] rapidtrades : maybe drop the realised box and put take peofit
[2016-11-18 16:03:57] rapidtrades : this doesn't add anything cos u could've just used a limit order to exit
[2016-11-18 16:04:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, but a limit order sits in the book, a Take Profit order does not
[2016-11-18 16:04:27] BitMEX_Sam : It also would not be able to do a Take Profit Market without this type.
[2016-11-18 16:04:29] elmorte : Not with a trigger
[2016-11-18 16:06:03] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: i see
[2016-11-18 16:07:04] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: will it trigger if you have no position?
[2016-11-18 16:07:20] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: It can, if you don't want that, set `Close`
[2016-11-18 16:07:23] rapidtrades : yea i can see this being useful if u want to exit at certain index price for example
[2016-11-18 16:07:57] elmorte : Thanks, I'll read up on it
[2016-11-18 16:07:59] BitMEX_Sam : In general, the `Close on Trigger` option can be very useful to ensure your trigger orders do exactly what you want.
[2016-11-18 16:27:46] golem : BitMEX_Sam: I see there is a small bug on the site. funding rate is 0.1417 in 3 hours
[2016-11-18 16:28:00] sleger : and ?
[2016-11-18 16:28:02] golem : and theh 0.0381 also in 3 hours
[2016-11-18 16:28:12] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, the predicted rate should show 11 hours. Thanks @golem
[2016-11-18 16:28:24] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: if `Close on Trigger` is checked and I have no position, is the order discarded immediately?
[2016-11-18 16:28:40] golem : no problem :)
[2016-11-18 16:28:41] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: When it triggers, if you have no position, then yes, it will cancel
[2016-11-18 16:33:57] elmorte : Ok...so you can't be 100% certain that your Limit and Take Profit will execute in that order
[2016-11-18 16:46:57] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: you on IRC?
[2016-11-18 16:55:16] elmorte : Why can't I set a Take Profit Long with a trigger higher than the current price?
[2016-11-18 16:55:35] elmorte : Take Profit Limit* long
[2016-11-18 16:55:37] BitMEX_Sam : You'd want to use a Stop for that.
[2016-11-18 16:57:14] elmorte : Not just a hat rack, are ya :) Thx
[2016-11-18 17:50:07] RoftheN : Factom Receives Grant From Gates Foundation For Medical Records Project
[2016-11-18 18:02:40] zcasher7777 : hhhhhhhhhh after thousand of dollar now zec only 76dollar
[2016-11-18 18:09:18] Spudger : I had a buy stop set this morning but it never triggered. Status: Rejected ?
[2016-11-18 18:10:24] wurstgelee : go fct! :)
[2016-11-18 18:10:46] zcasher7777 : sorry was ezating noddl ;-)
[2016-11-18 18:10:46] zcasher7777 : ;-)
[2016-11-18 18:12:56] Spudger : Rejcted: Order had execInstance of Close and side of Buy but current position is 0. So you can't do buy stops on bitmex?
[2016-11-18 18:14:45] wurstgelee : i like how factom gives a fuck about btc and pumps anyways
[2016-11-18 18:14:49] wurstgelee : polo got bored i guess
[2016-11-18 18:15:43] Spudger : I guess I must have had Close on Trigger activated then
[2016-11-18 18:21:08] RocketScience : factom's got Bill Gates funding for medical records database
[2016-11-18 18:22:03] wurstgelee : that news isnt so new tho?
[2016-11-18 18:22:18] wurstgelee : at least i read it somewhere earlier
[2016-11-18 18:22:27] RocketScience : yeah 2 hours
[2016-11-18 18:22:34] wurstgelee : oh k
[2016-11-18 18:22:40] wurstgelee : thought it was longer ago
[2016-11-18 18:22:44] RocketScience : bitcoin china ban news took 5 hours to really drop the price
[2016-11-18 18:22:49] RocketScience : zerohedge rumors
[2016-11-18 18:23:03] wurstgelee : there is some action @ polo
[2016-11-18 18:23:30] wurstgelee : could be a nice pump if btc doesnt shit the bed now
[2016-11-18 18:23:51] wurstgelee : or especially if it shits the bed...depends on how u see it
[2016-11-18 18:24:19] RocketScience : then eth moon
[2016-11-18 18:24:34] RocketScience : 1800 btc buyside on eth...worst in a year
[2016-11-18 18:25:18] wurstgelee : my btc short is fct, eth xmr long ;)
[2016-11-18 18:26:53] RocketScience : i want to peg btc to 1000 usd and trade alts in peace :D
[2016-11-18 18:27:01] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-18 18:27:12] RocketScience : i miss summer pumps
[2016-11-18 18:27:14] wurstgelee : i like that its either alts or btc
[2016-11-18 18:27:31] wurstgelee : all alts or all btc would be boring
[2016-11-18 18:27:44] wurstgelee : also yep, i muss summer 2014
[2016-11-18 18:27:45] wurstgelee : :|
[2016-11-18 18:27:49] wurstgelee : miss
[2016-11-18 18:28:31] rapidtrades : https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trumps-daughter-sits-landmark-japan-pm-talks-075503000.html
[2016-11-18 18:28:36] rapidtrades : ^ lol
[2016-11-18 18:29:17] sleger : why lol ? I'd like to meet with her too
[2016-11-18 18:30:16] rapidtrades : she hardly seems qualified to attend that meeting
[2016-11-18 18:32:20] dasdfasdf : Should have sen tyou
[2016-11-18 18:34:24] wurstgelee : rapitrade excels in that japanese geisha dress
[2016-11-18 18:34:28] wurstgelee : would probably have worked
[2016-11-18 18:38:03] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: stop you'll turn on sleger :)
[2016-11-18 18:38:20] wurstgelee : hehehe
[2016-11-18 18:40:53] wurstgelee : fct :D
[2016-11-18 18:52:22] RocketScience : btc tantrum
[2016-11-18 18:53:33] rapidtrades : maybe they'll use the weekend to dump
[2016-11-18 18:53:36] aethlios : bitmex please add a fill or kill ordrer to the platform (not api)
[2016-11-18 18:54:03] rapidtrades : cos there wont be any fixings or forex moves to prop up prices
[2016-11-18 18:55:02] wurstgelee : aethlios: +1
[2016-11-18 18:55:26] rapidtrades : +2
[2016-11-18 18:55:54] rapidtrades : extra orders can't hurt....and you're already use a dropbox so it won't be in the way
[2016-11-18 18:56:32] aethlios : yes if I want to place a 100k order fill or kill, so a big boy can hit me or not.
[2016-11-18 18:56:55] aethlios : there could be more battles for whales.
[2016-11-18 18:59:43] BitMEX_Sam : aethlios: That's on the way, working on a Time-In-Force option
[2016-11-18 19:00:25] aethlios : great, I am getting ready for war.
[2016-11-18 19:01:39] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-18 19:05:05] sleger : aethlios: what you want is allornone, not fillorkill
[2016-11-18 19:05:25] sleger : fillorkill is immediately filled or canceled so nobody can "hit" you
[2016-11-18 19:06:35] sleger : either way it doesnt make sense to do what you are saying (for large orders sent by hand)
[2016-11-18 19:09:08] aethlios : sleger: ok let's say I place a FOK for 100,000 now 746.5, what happens?
[2016-11-18 19:09:25] sleger : nothing and your order is canceled
[2016-11-18 19:09:44] sleger : since it cant be Fill its Kill
[2016-11-18 19:09:56] sleger : that's usually what OR means
[2016-11-18 19:10:31] wurstgelee : he wants fill (partly) and kill i guess
[2016-11-18 19:10:44] aethlios : how long does appear on the book? can't stay for a predetermined time, let's say 30 sec.??
[2016-11-18 19:10:47] sleger : why would anyone want that
[2016-11-18 19:10:51] wurstgelee : dunno
[2016-11-18 19:11:01] sleger : aethlios: it doesnt appear in the book
[2016-11-18 19:12:12] aethlios : what I want is to place a large order that appears on the book and has a limited time to be filled, let's say 30 sec. or unlimited time until i cancel, it must be filled all or canceled.
[2016-11-18 19:13:30] sleger : and lets say you place a 100k buy at 746.5 and someone wants to sell the bid at 746 but for 10k, what would happen ?
[2016-11-18 19:14:32] aethlios : the other books trades normally, so he sells 10k for 746, my order stays with a different colour.
[2016-11-18 19:14:44] sleger : so you allow inverted markets ?
[2016-11-18 19:15:04] sleger : lets assume the bid is at 745 and the guy wants to place an offer (sell) at 746
[2016-11-18 19:15:26] aethlios : my order can be hit from one trader, not many with small trades.
[2016-11-18 19:15:45] sleger : but you understand that the order book might be inverted (bid > ask) then ?
[2016-11-18 19:17:40] aethlios : that could make things strange, but if those orders have special notice colour maybe could exist. Because of large quantity i could offer a better bid than others (appreciate liquidity)
[2016-11-18 19:18:36] elmorte : so...like OTC?
[2016-11-18 19:18:39] aethlios : let's say someone places a 500,000 bid at 750, he appreciates liquidity so offers a premium for someone else to hit him
[2016-11-18 19:19:46] aethlios : elmorte: yes like an OTC market inside the swap
[2016-11-18 19:20:53] y1uy : fct upppp
[2016-11-18 19:21:05] elmorte : That's quite specific
[2016-11-18 19:21:15] y1uy : factom just got a grant by the bill gates foundation
[2016-11-18 19:21:27] y1uy : to provide factom ledger to health care providers
[2016-11-18 19:21:28] wurstgelee : btc up, fct down ;)
[2016-11-18 19:21:28] y1uy : https://factom.com/blog/gates-foundation-grant
[2016-11-18 19:21:32] elmorte : it was 2 days ago, ffs
[2016-11-18 19:21:52] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-18 19:21:57] y1uy : what was 2 days ago?
[2016-11-18 19:21:58] wurstgelee : nice short opp ;)
[2016-11-18 19:22:26] y1uy : POSTED: NOVEMBER 18, 2016 BY TIANA LAURENCE
[2016-11-18 19:22:57] wurstgelee : yep, i read it somehwere earlier tho
[2016-11-18 19:23:02] sleger : aethlios: but why wouldnt you want to be hit for 50 times 10k ??
[2016-11-18 19:23:02] wurstgelee : yesterday iirc
[2016-11-18 19:23:09] y1uy : probably rumour
[2016-11-18 19:23:58] y1uy : so this is the official press release.. released 50min ago https://twitter.com/factom/status/799681555782402050
[2016-11-18 19:24:06] y1uy : im not a fct bagholder dw lol
[2016-11-18 19:24:33] aethlios : sleger: maybe you wont.
[2016-11-18 19:25:05] sleger : aethlios: but why ?? these orders dont exist in real markets because they just dont make any sense
[2016-11-18 19:27:09] aethlios : ok just said an idea, when btc pumps and dumps i want to place a big size and get filled full to catch the opportunity, so that's why i suggested that. after 1 minute the market retraces and opportunity missed
[2016-11-18 19:27:12] elmorte : y1uy: my bad, someone's gaming the Google engine. Factom Receives Grant From Gates Foundation For Medical Records ... coinjournal.net › Economy › Investment 3 days ago - Factom Inc. has received a grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to build a medical records system for the organization.
[2016-11-18 19:27:35] elmorte : Yet, the post is dated 18 Nov.
[2016-11-18 19:28:14] wurstgelee : oh lol
[2016-11-18 19:28:16] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-18 19:28:25] wurstgelee : damn u google
[2016-11-18 19:28:35] elmorte : who can u trust
[2016-11-18 19:29:46] sleger : me
[2016-11-18 19:35:22] elmorte : ze truth
[2016-11-18 19:44:32] rapidtrades : dam wirex customer service sucks
[2016-11-18 19:52:00] j8 : TimeInForce=Session would be useful for the swap
[2016-11-18 19:58:01] mjones : zec under 0.1
[2016-11-18 19:59:15] mjones : give it a couple more days and 0.05 it will be
[2016-11-18 20:01:02] wurstgelee : short then ;)
[2016-11-18 20:02:04] mjones : bitmex already at 0.05. more like long then
[2016-11-18 20:02:23] mjones : still dont know if it'll pump here so still not worth doing anything
[2016-11-18 20:05:03] wurstgelee : id like to see polo dump to .05 tho
[2016-11-18 20:05:17] wurstgelee : so maybe we can have .03 here ;)
[2016-11-18 20:36:29] anonymous789 : btc getting boring
[2016-11-18 21:07:12] sleger : +1 if it continues like that i might just sign off and go outside !
[2016-11-18 21:09:18] rapidtrades : too late to go outside its winter
[2016-11-18 21:14:24] sleger : plus it's full of real people outside
[2016-11-18 21:18:25] RocketScience : lol
[2016-11-18 21:21:06] rapidtrades : https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-anonymity-over-united-states-government-seeks-identity-transaction-records-of-coinbase-users
[2016-11-18 21:21:17] rapidtrades : ^ BUY BUY BUY ZEC
[2016-11-18 21:21:52] rapidtrades : the perfect anoncoin for this troubling times
[2016-11-18 21:22:35] RocketScience : what about moonero?
[2016-11-18 21:23:16] rapidtrades : f*ck monero
[2016-11-18 21:23:39] RocketScience : zec will deflate for some time
[2016-11-18 21:23:54] RocketScience : it needs more coins before it will really be used for any payments
[2016-11-18 21:24:09] rapidtrades : it has enough coins
[2016-11-18 21:24:38] RocketScience : you hold it for 3 days and it's already -30%...
[2016-11-18 21:24:47] RocketScience : great doing business with you
[2016-11-18 21:25:36] rapidtrades : same to you buddy!
[2016-11-18 21:25:45] rapidtrades : we'll see who has the last laugh
[2016-11-18 21:27:06] RocketScience : The creators with infinite supply :P
[2016-11-18 21:28:01] RocketScience : you never know who is who in this world (trusted setup)
[2016-11-18 21:29:29] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/changetip/comments/5dn3rc/changetip_shutting_down/
[2016-11-18 21:31:50] RocketScience : number 1 use case for dogecoin gone :(
[2016-11-18 21:36:02] mjones : lol changetip shutting down
[2016-11-18 21:39:50] mjones : some people tipped me and it wasnt even worth claiming it
[2016-11-18 22:03:54] lopol : Why would any sane person buy or long ZEC?
[2016-11-18 22:04:11] lopol : So obious that price will be in very long devline for months
[2016-11-18 22:04:16] sleger : because inferior people think like you ?
[2016-11-18 22:04:49] lopol : inferior people go long on coin that has huge inflation
[2016-11-18 22:08:48] mjones : someone is having success holding price up and mining and dumping maybe
[2016-11-18 22:14:26] anonymous789 : mjones: yea this is weird, volume is very low
[2016-11-18 22:16:07] wurstgelee : lopol: go on, sell. ;)
[2016-11-18 22:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.003112
[2016-11-18 22:18:53] anonymous789 : funny, because of the interest i'm still in profit from my short at 743
[2016-11-18 22:21:02] RocketScience : somewhere between 0.1 and 0.05 another pump is expected
[2016-11-18 22:21:40] sleger : and the source is ? rocket science ?
[2016-11-18 22:22:24] wurstgelee : RocketScience: yep
[2016-11-18 22:22:31] wurstgelee : rocket science ofc
[2016-11-18 22:23:14] wurstgelee : btc playing fake out again?
[2016-11-18 22:23:35] wurstgelee : nice candle on quarterlies tho
[2016-11-18 22:24:15] lopol : wurstgelee: I have for weeks
[2016-11-18 22:24:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 22:24:30] lopol : never been so easy money
[2016-11-18 22:24:38] wurstgelee : same for longs
[2016-11-18 22:24:47] lopol : every long has rekted
[2016-11-18 22:24:51] wurstgelee : shit ton of easy money. :)
[2016-11-18 22:24:53] wurstgelee : lolz no
[2016-11-18 22:25:17] sleger : he probably meant to call himself lolol but failed
[2016-11-18 22:26:30] RocketScience : sleger: It will be like pumps on ripple...quick and furious, then total retrace
[2016-11-18 22:26:47] RocketScience : source:irrationality
[2016-11-18 22:27:13] wurstgelee : yeah, thats ok for me
[2016-11-18 22:27:15] sleger : btc bouncing soon or faking ?
[2016-11-18 22:27:22] wurstgelee : i dont need sustained pumps ;)
[2016-11-18 22:27:45] wurstgelee : sleger: so far i'd say fake
[2016-11-18 22:27:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 23 @ 83348
[2016-11-18 22:29:41] RocketScience : Look at usd/jpy
[2016-11-18 22:29:42] RocketScience : http://prntscr.com/d91qmo
[2016-11-18 22:30:05] RocketScience : 5% gains in bitcoin just from devaluation against the dollar
[2016-11-18 22:38:38] RocketScience : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-18/china-warns-it-ready-slow-yuan-plunge-capital-outflow-fears
[2016-11-18 22:39:02] RocketScience : they want to slow the bitcoin rally xD
[2016-11-18 22:40:25] wurstgelee : hmmm
[2016-11-18 22:41:22] wurstgelee : that fakeout is trying hard to not look fake. 8)
[2016-11-18 22:45:57] RocketScience : i better go sleep before i do stupid fomo
[2016-11-18 22:46:12] Dtrade16 : what's going on guys?
[2016-11-18 22:46:14] wurstgelee : i already fomo'd
[2016-11-18 22:46:14] Dtrade16 : what
[2016-11-18 22:46:24] Dtrade16 : what's up with eth? good buy?
[2016-11-18 22:46:41] wurstgelee : if u dont like ur money, yes
[2016-11-18 22:46:45] Dtrade16 : y
[2016-11-18 22:46:50] wurstgelee : because its going down
[2016-11-18 22:47:09] Dtrade16 : how far do you think it will go?
[2016-11-18 22:47:13] Dtrade16 : and why
[2016-11-18 22:47:29] Dtrade16 : is it going down exactly? Hard fork?
[2016-11-18 22:47:54] wurstgelee : if it breaks current level, further down
[2016-11-18 22:48:11] wurstgelee : back to watching btc
[2016-11-18 22:48:30] hhhhh : btc looks good
[2016-11-18 22:49:03] Dtrade16 : why is it going down tho
[2016-11-18 22:50:50] sleger : gravity ?
[2016-11-18 22:51:02] Dtrade16 : thanks
[2016-11-18 22:51:07] Dtrade16 : now i get it
[2016-11-18 22:51:34] anonymous789 : hmm this pump is on seriously low volume
[2016-11-18 22:52:23] mjones : i thought ETH would dump a ton as almost everyone who bought this year are no longer in profit. maybe soon
[2016-11-18 22:52:26] wurstgelee : some decent quarterlies buying tho
[2016-11-18 22:52:27] wurstgelee : okc
[2016-11-18 22:52:49] Dtrade16 : what?
[2016-11-18 22:52:50] mjones : so bullish btc cant even dump real low
[2016-11-18 22:52:56] sleger : Dtrade16: whis
[2016-11-18 22:52:58] wurstgelee : mjones: my short is waiting for it to break .0125
[2016-11-18 22:53:09] wurstgelee : 0.012 is probably where the panic starts
[2016-11-18 22:53:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 22:53:16] mjones : xbtz16 started at $726 and hit $806 and then $770 and now $795
[2016-11-18 22:53:39] Dtrade16 : futures are at 795 for btc?
[2016-11-18 22:53:50] wurstgelee : dez 30?
[2016-11-18 22:53:50] anonymous789 : welp i still think this is a double top on the daily, and i'm willing to hold my short for this interest :)
[2016-11-18 22:53:51] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-18 22:53:53] mjones : will there be a 5% dump to rekt longs or will this just continue up
[2016-11-18 22:53:57] wurstgelee : anonymous789: :D
[2016-11-18 22:54:08] Dtrade16 : wow
[2016-11-18 22:54:14] Dtrade16 : some ppl gonna lose money
[2016-11-18 22:54:25] mjones : always is that way when half are short and half long
[2016-11-18 22:54:26] wurstgelee : and some people are gonna win..
[2016-11-18 22:54:27] sleger : which ones ?
[2016-11-18 22:54:29] wurstgelee : surprise
[2016-11-18 22:54:30] Dtrade16 : no way it hits 795
[2016-11-18 22:54:30] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-18 22:54:40] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-18 22:54:45] wurstgelee : you seem experienced
[2016-11-18 22:54:45] anonymous789 : Dtrade16: you short?
[2016-11-18 22:54:54] Dtrade16 : yah i have eth lol
[2016-11-18 22:54:54] sleger : Dtrade16: wanna bet 1 against 25 ?
[2016-11-18 22:55:11] wurstgelee : Dtrade16: you holding eth?
[2016-11-18 22:55:14] sleger : "Dtrade16: no way it hits 795"
[2016-11-18 22:55:17] Dtrade16 : no I'm not
[2016-11-18 22:55:18] wurstgelee : while btc is pumping?
[2016-11-18 22:55:32] wurstgelee : Dtrade16: why wont it hit 795?
[2016-11-18 22:55:34] Dtrade16 : the pump is done
[2016-11-18 22:55:37] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-18 22:55:41] wurstgelee : y is that?
[2016-11-18 22:55:55] Dtrade16 : well how many times has it hit 795?
[2016-11-18 22:56:00] bernx : Im too have some fear about current BTC grow
[2016-11-18 22:56:01] Dtrade16 : or 8
[2016-11-18 22:56:14] bernx : at least we have abcde
[2016-11-18 22:56:22] wurstgelee : it wont hit 795 because it hasnt hit 795 many times yet?
[2016-11-18 22:56:25] wurstgelee : thats your logic?
[2016-11-18 22:56:25] anonymous789 : there is major resistance at the 770 level
[2016-11-18 22:56:28] Dtrade16 : ill set my buy order at 500 and wait for the next hack to pick up cheap coins
[2016-11-18 22:56:32] sleger : his logic is the best logic
[2016-11-18 22:56:36] Dtrade16 : yes
[2016-11-18 22:56:39] sleger : he has great logic
[2016-11-18 22:56:44] wurstgelee : he sure has
[2016-11-18 22:56:44] Dtrade16 : lol
[2016-11-18 22:56:59] Dtrade16 : it's my gut
[2016-11-18 22:57:05] Dtrade16 : and i trust it
[2016-11-18 22:57:05] wurstgelee : Dtrade16: how long have u been trading crypto?
[2016-11-18 22:57:09] wurstgelee : honestly?
[2016-11-18 22:57:17] anonymous789 : lie
[2016-11-18 22:57:18] Dtrade16 : not long
[2016-11-18 22:57:26] Dtrade16 : few years
[2016-11-18 22:57:27] wurstgelee : 2-3 months?
[2016-11-18 22:57:28] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-18 22:57:30] Dtrade16 : no
[2016-11-18 22:58:01] Dtrade16 : just my gut man chill out
[2016-11-18 22:58:19] mjones : zec new low. almost breaking 0.09
[2016-11-18 22:58:23] wurstgelee : i am completely chilled
[2016-11-18 22:58:25] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-18 22:58:41] QuantFocus : :knife::whale:
[2016-11-18 22:58:47] Dtrade16 : not chiseling it into rock
[2016-11-18 22:58:47] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-18 22:58:56] mjones : insane amount of shorts opening in the 0.05-0.07 range on here
[2016-11-18 22:58:58] Dtrade16 : cool
[2016-11-18 22:59:05] wurstgelee : mjones: yep
[2016-11-18 22:59:16] mjones : 1897 contracts open for zec now
[2016-11-18 22:59:17] QuantFocus : mjones: that's why we'll probably see a pump
[2016-11-18 22:59:28] wurstgelee : mjones: i have a few % of those tbh
[2016-11-18 22:59:51] lopol : ZEC inflation is only increasing for next few weeks
[2016-11-18 23:00:07] lopol : you must be crazy to think it woild pump
[2016-11-18 23:00:10] mjones : i guess 7 days in this range. anyone shorting last 7 days is probably wondering why bitmex zec hasnt moved much
[2016-11-18 23:00:29] sleger : seems perfect timing to buy some ZEC then, thanks @lolol
[2016-11-18 23:00:31] wurstgelee : its funny, all these lopols comehere and tell the same thing over and over again....
[2016-11-18 23:00:32] QuantFocus : lopol: it's called a short squeeze
[2016-11-18 23:00:38] wurstgelee : inflation..blahblah...crazy longs..blahblah
[2016-11-18 23:00:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 23:00:51] mjones : that's why you would pump it sooner rather than later. before more coins are out there. otherwise wait till really low prices and shorts on here made the right call
[2016-11-18 23:00:58] wurstgelee : mjones: !
[2016-11-18 23:01:17] lopol : nobody wants to pump zec so much that it would cause short sqeeze
[2016-11-18 23:01:20] wurstgelee : i guess it will pump as soon as btc takes a dump
[2016-11-18 23:01:39] wurstgelee : short squeeze would start early here
[2016-11-18 23:01:42] wurstgelee : really early
[2016-11-18 23:01:55] wurstgelee : .08 first margin calls
[2016-11-18 23:01:58] wurstgelee : if not earlier
[2016-11-18 23:02:36] mjones : btc 36 hours sideways. and people think it's going down?
[2016-11-18 23:02:57] mjones : hmm. pump to bring USD to 2016 all time high. then keep pumping. wonder if that'll happen soon
[2016-11-18 23:03:08] CaptainDean : to 800$ then moon ! :D
[2016-11-18 23:03:21] wurstgelee : no 800. that didnt happen often yet
[2016-11-18 23:03:22] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-18 23:03:50] RocketScience : i saw the 5400 spike in real time
[2016-11-18 23:03:56] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: i'm kidding, but i think we might see 800$
[2016-11-18 23:04:00] RocketScience : i love it
[2016-11-18 23:04:09] wurstgelee : RocketScience: me 2
[2016-11-18 23:04:27] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: y not? ;)
[2016-11-18 23:04:51] wurstgelee : we will, sooner or later
[2016-11-18 23:05:12] wurstgelee : this pump hasnt been called off yet
[2016-11-18 23:06:11] jeeburns : cny dumps bitmex is like nope just gonna blindy buy up.
[2016-11-18 23:06:26] anonymous789 : jeeburns: yup
[2016-11-18 23:07:10] anonymous789 : anyway funding rate for shorts gettin better so i'm good holding for the eventual correction
[2016-11-18 23:07:30] mjones : you say it like it's a sure thing
[2016-11-18 23:07:47] anonymous789 : i'm fairly confident
[2016-11-18 23:08:30] mjones : china makes 2016 high. price hasnt been higher in 34 months. china sideways for over a day well above the 2016 ath
[2016-11-18 23:08:41] mjones : in b4 6000 cny
[2016-11-18 23:09:01] mjones : $871
[2016-11-18 23:09:07] mjones : xbtz16 will be like $1,000
[2016-11-18 23:09:17] mjones : then it'll all come crashing down
[2016-11-18 23:09:22] mjones : or mooning to ATH
[2016-11-18 23:09:23] anonymous789 : yup but needs a short correction first
[2016-11-18 23:09:33] anonymous789 : a 'healthy' correction
[2016-11-18 23:09:44] jeeburns : yea i think it's gonna pump too, but little pull back here first. Maybe we jut go straight up, bitmex isn't waiting.
[2016-11-18 23:10:11] wurstgelee : bitcoin can be an irrational bitch
[2016-11-18 23:10:32] wurstgelee : it might just pump further without that "needed" correction
[2016-11-18 23:10:47] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: that's what the financial markets do...
[2016-11-18 23:11:06] wurstgelee : also cny and india, great conditions for btc
[2016-11-18 23:11:26] RocketScience : India has 100$ premium
[2016-11-18 23:11:32] wurstgelee : yep, its crazy
[2016-11-18 23:11:43] QuantFocus : capital controls
[2016-11-18 23:11:44] wurstgelee : but india has a LOT of people...
[2016-11-18 23:11:46] j8 : yeah it seems early to be looking for a correction
[2016-11-18 23:12:01] wurstgelee : india and china both pumping, thats more than half of the world
[2016-11-18 23:12:01] RocketScience : Modi banned/replaced large denomination notes...whole country gone crazy
[2016-11-18 23:12:06] QuantFocus : if india can achieve more efficient access to btc...oh boy
[2016-11-18 23:12:11] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-18 23:12:22] wurstgelee : demands creates such things usually
[2016-11-18 23:12:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 23:12:45] RocketScience : show them 0kcoin ;D
[2016-11-18 23:12:53] QuantFocus : i like economics
[2016-11-18 23:13:02] anonymous789 : all good things, but i see none of it happening in the short term, so i predict a small correction
[2016-11-18 23:13:05] wurstgelee : i never cared much tbh
[2016-11-18 23:13:15] wurstgelee : i didnt care much in shitcoin summer 2014
[2016-11-18 23:13:23] wurstgelee : i had to start caring in 2015 bear market ;)
[2016-11-18 23:13:43] wurstgelee : nowadays i care
[2016-11-18 23:13:49] mjones : india localbitcoins averaging 200 BTC a week
[2016-11-18 23:14:04] mjones : this is mainly all china
[2016-11-18 23:14:18] wurstgelee : yep, india isnt a part of this yet
[2016-11-18 23:14:28] mjones : and india exchanges still hundreds of btc
[2016-11-18 23:14:51] mjones : there are like 12,000 new BTC a week. doubt indians are flocking to btc
[2016-11-18 23:14:56] wurstgelee : if btc becomes a thing in india...good times ahead
[2016-11-18 23:15:14] wurstgelee : at least no overall bad condition for btc atm
[2016-11-18 23:15:37] wurstgelee : i wonder what the news that kills the rally weill be this time
[2016-11-18 23:15:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 23:15:51] mjones : just think of fast internet around the world with cell phones that charge via the sun or some shit. anyone could use BTC around the world on their phone
[2016-11-18 23:16:02] mjones : probably a lot of muggings and phone stealing though
[2016-11-18 23:16:03] j8 : wurstgelee: bitmex exit scam :O
[2016-11-18 23:16:03] wurstgelee : yep ofc
[2016-11-18 23:16:09] wurstgelee : j8: haha
[2016-11-18 23:18:27] RocketScience : god, bring fct to 1 satoshi so i can bu them all
[2016-11-18 23:19:08] QuantFocus : i made a killing on glencore this year
[2016-11-18 23:19:32] QuantFocus : rolled some profits into an HLF put @37.5. hope it's not too low. feb 17 settlement
[2016-11-18 23:20:48] QuantFocus : i mention that for no particular reason
[2016-11-18 23:22:01] rapidtrades : stop bragging
[2016-11-18 23:22:20] QuantFocus : :shrug:
[2016-11-18 23:31:20] orly : what's up with the xbtcny xbtusd price difference?
[2016-11-18 23:31:33] orly : is it so hard to arbitrage? or am i missing something?
[2016-11-18 23:32:09] j8 : it's hard to move CNY out of china
[2016-11-18 23:32:16] orly : even for chinese?
[2016-11-18 23:32:19] j8 : yes
[2016-11-18 23:33:02] j8 : there is a foreign exchange limit of $50,000 USD per year per citizen, for one thing
[2016-11-18 23:43:58] chaunceylee : the lowest price of ETH7D is 0.01274 yesterday 22:00,why my eth7D was sold at 0.01240 by the system
[2016-11-18 23:45:48] j8 : it's a weekly contract, it settled and relisted
[2016-11-18 23:47:01] chaunceylee : tks
[2016-11-18 23:47:54] j8 : it settled at 0.01288 though, so maybe you did get liquidated
[2016-11-18 23:48:27] BitMEX_Greg : chaunceylee: If you got liquidated you would have received a liquidation email with all the relevant details
[2016-11-18 23:48:48] BitMEX_Greg : chaunceylee: Also you can check in your Trade History: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-18 23:49:54] chaunceylee : ok
[2016-11-19 00:19:15] gartan : Is there a way to delete my bitmex account?
[2016-11-19 00:19:55] anonymous789 : gartan: they don't usually let you do that for regulatory reasons right
[2016-11-19 00:20:32] gartan : ok
[2016-11-19 00:20:57] anonymous789 : gartan: i'm guessing, i don't know