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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-11-18 09:30:27] wurstgelee : i agree with "kinda weak" tho [2016-11-18 09:31:25] anonymous789 : poloniex going higher [2016-11-18 09:31:33] habibi : eth shitting [2016-11-18 09:31:42] wurstgelee : yep [2016-11-18 09:31:44] anonymous789 : habibi: great time to buy ;) [2016-11-18 09:31:47] aethlios : eth zero zero [2016-11-18 09:31:52] habibi : wait for more panic [2016-11-18 09:31:53] wurstgelee : time for knife catching eth is near [2016-11-18 09:33:59] anonymous789 : the fundamentals for eth are so good though, the dev team, community, sponsors, certainly worth more than it is right now [2016-11-18 09:34:39] wurstgelee : i longed some, a little bit ;) [2016-11-18 09:34:51] anonymous789 : imo there is a whole lot of nothing going on in btc, this whole pump is nearly baseless [2016-11-18 09:35:02] habibi : zec 500 spot s wall [2016-11-18 09:35:09] anonymous789 : community been arguing about hard fork for damn near 2 years ridiculous [2016-11-18 09:35:26] wurstgelee : sell walls are for buying.... [2016-11-18 09:35:27] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-18 09:36:19] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: i'm 'trading' btc but invested in eth [2016-11-18 09:36:47] wurstgelee : habibi: i am curious if that will @ .1 is there to be filled or not [2016-11-18 09:36:51] wurstgelee : *wall [2016-11-18 09:44:14] anonymous789 : what's interesting is this site says pricing source kaiko for xbt but on kaiko the price is 765 lol [2016-11-18 09:45:11] wurstgelee : bitmex has a special kaiko index [2016-11-18 09:45:24] wurstgelee : anonymous789: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex [2016-11-18 09:45:43] anonymous789 : aah [2016-11-18 09:48:04] wurstgelee : anonymous789: its 50% stamp and 50% okc usd [2016-11-18 09:48:11] wurstgelee : so 2 illiquid exchanges.... [2016-11-18 09:48:40] wurstgelee : more up [2016-11-18 09:48:44] Kahir : 3 2 1 [2016-11-18 09:49:01] wurstgelee : closed my eth&xmr in time with a profit :p [2016-11-18 09:49:30] anonymous789 : 760 is where i start panicking about my short lol [2016-11-18 09:49:35] wurstgelee : :D [2016-11-18 09:50:04] wurstgelee : wow [2016-11-18 09:50:07] anonymous789 : funding rate is calming my nerves a bit lol [2016-11-18 09:50:08] wurstgelee : stamp just made a new high [2016-11-18 09:50:12] wurstgelee : $750 [2016-11-18 09:50:17] wurstgelee : year high that is [2016-11-18 09:50:35] anonymous789 : nice [2016-11-18 09:50:51] aethlios : 800 today [2016-11-18 09:51:03] wurstgelee : more alt doom [2016-11-18 09:51:09] aethlios : and then the big rally to 1175 previous ATH. [2016-11-18 09:55:20] anonymous789 : so i feel if this breaks this level with significant volume we go way higher, if not there probably should be some correction to the 730 level [2016-11-18 09:55:35] anonymous789 : and then it would probably go back up and break through no problem [2016-11-18 09:56:53] aethlios : may french elections, if lepen wins panic will hit euro holders, and new demand for btc. [2016-11-18 09:57:44] l3f : aethlios: I thought that's next year [2016-11-18 09:57:48] l3f : the dawn of Le Pen [2016-11-18 09:58:14] aethlios : 6 of may 2nd round i think. also germen elections later 2017 [2016-11-18 09:58:38] l3f : le insane funding rate face [2016-11-18 09:59:07] aethlios : lepen says now in interviews for referendum for frexit if elected [2016-11-18 10:03:23] Kalman : anyone looking at US long term interest rates? [2016-11-18 10:32:43] zanza : USd is on a roll, 100% rate increase coming [2016-11-18 10:38:49] arbitrage001 : US needs to weaken its currency [2016-11-18 10:39:01] arbitrage001 : interest rate has to go to negative [2016-11-18 10:39:08] anonymous789 : arbitrage001: agreed [2016-11-18 10:39:24] arbitrage001 : depositor paid debtor 10% a year [2016-11-18 10:42:21] wurstgelee : eth about to die..... [2016-11-18 10:42:37] arbitrage001 : wont say die [2016-11-18 10:42:45] arbitrage001 : drop 50%? [2016-11-18 10:43:03] wurstgelee : that equals dying imo [2016-11-18 10:43:04] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-18 10:43:05] arbitrage001 : the coin/smart contract still work as before regardless of price [2016-11-18 10:43:11] arbitrage001 : same as btc [2016-11-18 10:43:24] wurstgelee : yes ofc, idc tho [2016-11-18 10:43:32] wurstgelee : i want a big knife ;) [2016-11-18 10:45:11] arbitrage001 : traders who gamble on alt coin rarely end well [2016-11-18 10:45:22] arbitrage001 : wish i was more discipline [2016-11-18 10:46:11] 72monkey : Is there any swap cost on Dec 30 100x XBT? [2016-11-18 10:46:29] arbitrage001 : 72monkey: the cost is the premium you pay [2016-11-18 10:46:36] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: thats not true, i am doing fine with knife catching [2016-11-18 10:46:38] wurstgelee : always have been [2016-11-18 10:46:46] wurstgelee : one of the easiest things to do imo ;) [2016-11-18 10:47:00] 72monkey : ok I see, so no continous costs like perpetual swap 100x [2016-11-18 10:47:05] wurstgelee : nope [2016-11-18 10:47:11] 72monkey : great [2016-11-18 10:47:12] 72monkey : thanks [2016-11-18 10:47:22] arbitrage001 : difference between swap and future here are fix vs variable cost [2016-11-18 10:47:38] arbitrage001 : predictable and non-predictable [2016-11-18 10:47:45] zanza : Saudi Arabia will drop USD for oil reserve soon [2016-11-18 10:48:02] arbitrage001 : zanza: doubtful [2016-11-18 10:48:14] arbitrage001 : saudi has lots of enemies in the region [2016-11-18 10:48:19] zanza : :D [2016-11-18 10:48:31] arbitrage001 : including soviet and iran [2016-11-18 10:48:33] arbitrage001 : isis [2016-11-18 10:48:45] arbitrage001 : and israel [2016-11-18 11:01:13] wurstgelee : still keeping 1:2 here.... zec [2016-11-18 11:01:20] wurstgelee : mex to polo [2016-11-18 11:01:22] wurstgelee : i am amazed [2016-11-18 11:01:24] wurstgelee : :) [2016-11-18 11:06:34] arbitrage001 : will wait till dec to see what i do with zec position [2016-11-18 11:06:43] arbitrage001 : if it hold this level, maybe i will add [2016-11-18 11:06:44] wurstgelee : unless pump ofc [2016-11-18 11:06:49] arbitrage001 : assuming discount is still high [2016-11-18 11:06:54] wurstgelee : yep [2016-11-18 11:07:10] arbitrage001 : got to give balls to shorter [2016-11-18 11:07:13] wurstgelee : i just bought 10 @ .053 tbh [2016-11-18 11:07:14] arbitrage001 : shorting at huge discount [2016-11-18 11:07:15] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-18 11:07:25] wurstgelee : well, and some more [2016-11-18 11:07:30] wurstgelee : 8) [2016-11-18 11:07:49] arbitrage001 : doubt rapid will be make whole [2016-11-18 11:07:54] arbitrage001 : if he is long at 2 btc [2016-11-18 11:07:55] wurstgelee : lol no way [2016-11-18 11:07:57] wurstgelee : 3 [2016-11-18 11:07:58] wurstgelee : ! [2016-11-18 11:08:18] wurstgelee : his negative upnl is bigger than mine [2016-11-18 11:08:24] wurstgelee : and i have 160 contracts... [2016-11-18 11:08:26] wurstgelee : he has 1 [2016-11-18 11:08:27] wurstgelee : afaik [2016-11-18 11:08:29] wurstgelee : :) [2016-11-18 11:08:41] arbitrage001 : fund got locked up and miss this btc rally [2016-11-18 11:08:49] wurstgelee : yep [2016-11-18 11:08:52] arbitrage001 : he only bet 1 ? [2016-11-18 11:09:02] wurstgelee : he says he doesnt add to losers [2016-11-18 11:09:10] wurstgelee : dont know if still true [2016-11-18 11:09:14] arbitrage001 : trading strategy is all wrong [2016-11-18 11:09:24] arbitrage001 : shouldnt go all in on 1st move [2016-11-18 11:09:31] wurstgelee : ofc not [2016-11-18 11:19:06] arbitrage001 : discoint on swap is higher than funding again [2016-11-18 11:25:57] CrazyAlfy : BitMEX: The Trade History filters are fantastic. Can you add the same filter functionality to the Transaction History page? [2016-11-18 11:42:58] zanza : https://bitcoincore.org/en/segwit_adoption/ [2016-11-18 11:43:08] dasdfasdf : Will it happen? [2016-11-18 11:43:19] zanza : segwit starts today, only 5% signal lol [2016-11-18 11:44:20] dasdfasdf : only 20 blocks in [2016-11-18 11:44:39] zanza : i hope we get Corexit [2016-11-18 11:44:45] dasdfasdf : y? [2016-11-18 11:44:56] zanza : censorshi[ for 1 [2016-11-18 11:45:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5010 @ 0.001183 [2016-11-18 11:45:40] zanza : 2) for stopping block increase [2016-11-18 11:46:22] zanza : 3) trying to shove segwit dowwn throat [2016-11-18 11:46:33] dasdfasdf : stupid engineers [2016-11-18 11:46:37] dasdfasdf : building quality code [2016-11-18 11:47:19] zanza : $80 Million company owns core [2016-11-18 11:47:47] kradiav : segwit is needed either way, block increase will be useless within a day [2016-11-18 11:48:09] zanza : why? it worked for 5 yrs on 1 MB [2016-11-18 11:48:24] dasdfasdf : If you start using a segwit wallet your transations will be cheaper [2016-11-18 11:48:55] dasdfasdf : zanza: Do you know what a hard fork is? [2016-11-18 11:49:03] zanza : cheaper than 30 cent currently :) [2016-11-18 11:49:13] zanza : yes dasdfasdf [2016-11-18 11:49:22] kradiav : segwit enables further decentralization and will allow new applications that are really tough to impossible to do at the moment [2016-11-18 11:49:27] dasdfasdf : WHy chance spitting network? [2016-11-18 11:49:58] Kahir : its 95% thats not splitting [2016-11-18 11:50:57] dasdfasdf : block size change is hardfork [2016-11-18 11:51:07] dasdfasdf : either way, segwit is gonna get adopted. [2016-11-18 11:51:30] zanza : most people oppose segwit who vote [2016-11-18 11:51:51] dasdfasdf : zanza: what vote [2016-11-18 11:52:01] anonymous789 : you know poloniex would list bitcoin classic :P [2016-11-18 11:53:33] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5dd13f/discussion_what_metrics_can_be_used_to_measure/ [2016-11-18 11:55:12] dasdfasdf : Which metric do you find valuable? [2016-11-18 11:56:26] zanza : idk [2016-11-18 11:57:57] zanza : i dont think segwit will be smooth adoption [2016-11-18 11:58:06] dasdfasdf : Where will be the snag? [2016-11-18 11:58:24] zanza : 95% signal [2016-11-18 12:06:45] anonymous789 : this looks like a double top on the daily... anyone else agree? [2016-11-18 12:07:32] zanza : hard to say [2016-11-18 12:08:17] zanza : did break new high [2016-11-18 12:08:32] anonymous789 : there's a solid uptrend line from about may 2016 which suggests it needs to correct to about the 680 level [2016-11-18 12:09:20] anonymous789 : i don't think it has broken the previous high of this year right? [2016-11-18 12:09:28] wurstgelee : we have [2016-11-18 12:09:33] wurstgelee : stamp has [2016-11-18 12:09:54] anonymous789 : nope, at least on bitmex swap chart previous high was around 770 in june [2016-11-18 12:10:07] zanza : look at ok casino [2016-11-18 12:10:14] wurstgelee : nope [2016-11-18 12:10:15] wurstgelee : my bad [2016-11-18 12:10:27] wurstgelee : but china has [2016-11-18 12:10:49] zanza : 30 month high [2016-11-18 12:10:53] wurstgelee : yep [2016-11-18 12:11:39] anonymous789 : oh that's even more interesting [2016-11-18 12:11:45] anonymous789 : that chart looks even more bearish imo [2016-11-18 12:12:41] anonymous789 : yeah looking at okc chart it is going to correct and possibly very sharply [2016-11-18 12:13:24] anonymous789 : at least that's how i see it [2016-11-18 12:13:31] anonymous789 : based on previous rallys of course [2016-11-18 12:14:44] anonymous789 : to around the 5070 level? [2016-11-18 12:16:57] anonymous789 : lower lows and lower highs on the hourly [2016-11-18 12:36:58] mjones : Zec longs feeling the pressure [2016-11-18 12:38:03] wurstgelee : not at all [2016-11-18 12:38:14] wurstgelee : as long as we keep ~ 1:2 to polo, longs are gonna be fine [2016-11-18 12:38:15] mjones : 400 more zec contracts open recently [2016-11-18 12:38:15] wurstgelee : :) [2016-11-18 12:38:30] mjones : Squeeze them with a pump [2016-11-18 12:39:22] wurstgelee : i am curious to see how low people are going to short [2016-11-18 12:39:25] anonymous789 : bah shorts gonna have to pay in 15 hours [2016-11-18 12:39:44] wurstgelee : anonymous789: maybe, maybe not [2016-11-18 12:39:49] wurstgelee : its a preview [2016-11-18 12:39:54] anonymous789 : i hope not lol [2016-11-18 12:39:56] mjones : Xrp and eth real low too [2016-11-18 12:40:08] anonymous789 : i don't know how this funding rate works [2016-11-18 12:40:46] aaa : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide [2016-11-18 12:40:52] wurstgelee : if we trade below mark for 8 h, shorts have to pay next funding [2016-11-18 12:40:56] wurstgelee : and vice versa [2016-11-18 12:41:02] wurstgelee : basically [2016-11-18 12:41:04] wurstgelee : =) [2016-11-18 12:41:50] aaa : Funding Rate (F) = Premium Index (P) + clamp(Interest Rate (I) - Premium Index (P), 0.05%, -0.05%) [2016-11-18 12:43:30] anonymous789 : yeah that's much maths for my brain [2016-11-18 12:43:34] anonymous789 : too much&* [2016-11-18 12:43:36] anonymous789 : lol [2016-11-18 13:02:51] zanza : EUR about to fall off cliff [2016-11-18 13:16:23] Shaman : Clamp(x, a, b) = min(max(x,a),b)? [2016-11-18 13:21:41] BitMEX_Wally : Shaman: yes [2016-11-18 13:25:02] Shaman : Thanks, haven't seen notation before but the name is suggestive enough to get the idea [2016-11-18 13:28:43] mjones : wow eth hit 0.0125 [2016-11-18 13:29:18] mjones : 0.0123 actually. new low [2016-11-18 13:34:18] mjones : oh yeah settlement just happened. new positions being taken [2016-11-18 13:42:44] trollboxer : Is there a way to sort open positions by price? [2016-11-18 13:43:05] elmorte : eh? [2016-11-18 13:43:30] Rado : trollboxer: it's called selling a position [2016-11-18 13:45:29] trollboxer : Rado, I don't know what you mean [2016-11-18 13:45:56] trollboxer : Are they any sortable column headings in the open positions window? [2016-11-18 13:45:59] rapidtrades : yuan finally easing up today [2016-11-18 13:46:06] rapidtrades : dollar down too [2016-11-18 13:47:14] elmorte : yeah fck...should not have touched those euros [2016-11-18 13:47:55] elmorte : trollboxer: you only have one position per contract [2016-11-18 13:48:20] elmorte : so to compare positions by price makes no sense [2016-11-18 13:48:27] elmorte : size, maybe [2016-11-18 13:49:03] trollboxer : It would be nice to be able to sort fills by price [2016-11-18 13:52:38] zcashequalslambo : if i buy moner ocntracts now [2016-11-18 13:52:41] zcashequalslambo : is it for today [2016-11-18 13:52:44] zcashequalslambo : or next firday [2016-11-18 13:52:48] zcashequalslambo : and do they expire [2016-11-18 13:52:52] zcashequalslambo : or sth? [2016-11-18 13:54:12] sleger : yes, the last one [2016-11-18 13:59:27] rapidtrades : http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38024897 [2016-11-18 13:59:28] zcashequalslambo : when is the new one then [2016-11-18 14:00:00] laisee : the day after the old one [2016-11-18 14:00:11] zcashequalslambo : so sat? [2016-11-18 14:00:17] rapidtrades : cmon guys, FOMO....my kids can't live on 0.14% [2016-11-18 14:00:31] Rado : rapidtrades: lol [2016-11-18 14:00:35] Rado : do you have kids? [2016-11-18 14:01:05] laisee : ... be the (price) change u want to see in the world ... [2016-11-18 14:01:08] rapidtrades : look at that 88888 bid...we got a chinaman [2016-11-18 14:01:27] Rado : yep [2016-11-18 14:02:27] rapidtrades : btc-e finally catching up, 741 atm [2016-11-18 14:02:56] Rado : sleger: still short? [2016-11-18 14:03:10] sleger : Rado: short what ? [2016-11-18 14:03:19] Rado : swap for fund [2016-11-18 14:03:31] sleger : the swap yes but im net long [2016-11-18 14:03:36] Rado : right [2016-11-18 14:04:01] rapidtrades : sleger: do u ever rotate swap >dec30 and back? [2016-11-18 14:04:08] sleger : yes [2016-11-18 14:04:33] rapidtrades : yeah smart....i should start doing that, too lazy i guess [2016-11-18 14:04:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 615 @ 0.012580 [2016-11-18 14:05:14] Rado : rapidtrades: also you lose upside on the amount you are short [2016-11-18 14:06:38] rapidtrades : yeah but once u figure out ur risk u gotta stick to it, the upside is not guaranteed [2016-11-18 14:06:57] Rado : true [2016-11-18 14:07:18] Rado : ETH ouch [2016-11-18 14:07:27] Rado : might buy some here for a potential bounce [2016-11-18 14:08:54] Rado : Is ETH the second most traded crypto here after XBT? [2016-11-18 14:09:28] rapidtrades : must be [2016-11-18 14:09:34] Rado : wow REP has 434 XBT 24H volume [2016-11-18 14:09:55] Rado : as much as XMR [2016-11-18 14:10:10] Rado : ETH 911 XBT [2016-11-18 14:10:20] sleger : but today was expiry so that might bias volumes [2016-11-18 14:10:44] Rado : ah [2016-11-18 14:10:49] Rado : forgot it's Friday [2016-11-18 14:11:07] sleger : are you another of those millenials without a job ? [2016-11-18 14:11:25] Rado : I do have a job [2016-11-18 14:11:26] Rado : still [2016-11-18 14:11:45] Rado : and I wish I was a millenial [2016-11-18 14:11:49] Rado : <-- old [2016-11-18 14:11:51] sleger : well then i brought you a good news [2016-11-18 14:11:54] sleger : its friday !! [2016-11-18 14:12:00] Rado : :-) [2016-11-18 14:14:29] Rado : so spread only $20 now [2016-11-18 14:14:46] Rado : should get to around $10 [2016-11-18 14:16:40] Rado : there is a divergence now on BTC [2016-11-18 14:19:05] rapidtrades : $13 premium on okc weekly [2016-11-18 14:23:27] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/ri4fFB2E-More-consolidation-for-BTC/ [2016-11-18 14:26:33] Rado : any feedback on this chart? [2016-11-18 14:26:53] huangyong : .。。 [2016-11-18 14:27:13] huangyong : 没有人开空吗? 我要开多啊 [2016-11-18 14:29:09] chromaticcr1 : -_- [2016-11-18 14:29:21] Rado : huangyong: this is the best feedback I have received [2016-11-18 14:29:40] chromaticcr1 : 小心庄主看上nile [2016-11-18 14:29:52] Rado : ETH bouncing [2016-11-18 14:29:59] Rado : rapidtrades: look at the bid now [2016-11-18 14:30:14] Rado : 66666 and 77777 [2016-11-18 14:30:35] chromaticcr1 : huangyong你玩的溜溜溜嘛? [2016-11-18 14:30:55] huangyong : 是我的 [2016-11-18 14:31:21] huangyong : 做空可以收利息,居然没人做空,日了狗了 [2016-11-18 14:35:34] anonymous789 : if you close a position at market rate, it doesn't close at mark price does it? [2016-11-18 14:37:00] BitMEX_Sam : anonymous789: No, those are different. Mark Price is the system's idea of the value of the contract, but when you market close the price you get depends on the orders in the book [2016-11-18 14:37:23] anonymous789 : BitMEX_Sam: aah thanks yeah that's what i thought, just confirming [2016-11-18 14:37:34] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: [2016-11-18 14:38:16] huangyong : ? [2016-11-18 14:39:18] elmorte : Rado: nice paint skillz [2016-11-18 14:39:27] Rado : he he [2016-11-18 14:42:51] Rado : ETH now higher volume than XMR on Polo [2016-11-18 14:43:01] Rado : hasn't been the leader in some time now [2016-11-18 14:44:39] meh : 60k long here? brave ppl here ^^ [2016-11-18 14:45:02] elmorte : Mostly traded on USDT there [2016-11-18 14:46:01] Rado : meh: 60k is not that much [2016-11-18 14:46:15] Rado : you only need 1 BTC [2016-11-18 14:46:29] meh : too much risk imo [2016-11-18 14:46:39] Rado : not really [2016-11-18 14:46:47] Rado : right now BTC is not moving much [2016-11-18 14:46:49] sleger : well maybe he is very poor [2016-11-18 14:46:50] meh : short dip and you are out [2016-11-18 14:46:54] sleger : or from ethiopia [2016-11-18 14:46:55] Rado : you can easily put a "good" stop [2016-11-18 14:47:37] Rado : meh: if you only have 1 BTC I will not recoomend to buy 60k contracts [2016-11-18 14:48:00] Rado : but if your account has 50 BTC then it's just a normal trade [2016-11-18 14:48:24] Rado : it's all relative [2016-11-18 14:48:31] meh : thats another cup of tee [2016-11-18 14:50:20] sleger : meh: are you sure? [2016-11-18 14:50:46] sleger : like this one ? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjTjcbZxrLQAhVGLSYKHZaVD24QjBwIBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.dreamstime.com%2Fz%2Fcup-tee-24535817.jpg&psig=AFQjCNHa5xIStGw_WkQZtNJmC8i3zka50g&ust=1479566989790676 [2016-11-18 14:50:57] meh : but for fuck sake you started with "60k is not that much you need only 1 BTC", sure but risk would be too high and holding 50b @ MEX feels to risky too to me [2016-11-18 14:51:33] meh : u know do whatever pleases you [2016-11-18 14:52:03] sleger : some people have hundreds of thousands of positions here you know [2016-11-18 14:52:17] sleger : they're mostly assholes though [2016-11-18 14:52:33] wurstgelee : lol =) [2016-11-18 14:53:14] meh : i do, and i appreciate the liquidity but its nothing for me, put 100BTC into coinjoin and take the hodl approach :p [2016-11-18 14:54:56] Rado : meh: why are you here if you don't want to trade? [2016-11-18 14:55:17] Rado : Trollbox is entertaining [2016-11-18 15:15:08] wurstgelee : choo choo? or not to choo choo [2016-11-18 15:15:47] BitMEX_Sam : :train: [2016-11-18 15:15:50] wurstgelee : new year high stamp ;) [2016-11-18 15:16:06] BitMEX_Sam : :bullettrain_side: [2016-11-18 15:16:11] wurstgelee : 8) [2016-11-18 15:16:34] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: watch the sell-off :P [2016-11-18 15:16:39] wurstgelee : hehe [2016-11-18 15:16:56] anonymous789 : wish i'd shorted at this level now lol [2016-11-18 15:17:07] wurstgelee : do it [2016-11-18 15:17:09] wurstgelee : :p [2016-11-18 15:17:41] anonymous789 : nah i'm a terrible money manager, i have all my eggs in one basket [2016-11-18 15:17:45] anonymous789 : lol [2016-11-18 15:17:48] wurstgelee : hehe [2016-11-18 15:17:51] thomaskikansha : 778 to beat stamp [2016-11-18 15:18:11] anonymous789 : so i'm still holding that short at 43 [2016-11-18 15:18:13] anonymous789 : 743* [2016-11-18 15:18:30] wurstgelee : the one from yesterday? [2016-11-18 15:18:32] anonymous789 : yeah [2016-11-18 15:19:06] anonymous789 : funding rate was making it easier to hold the posiiton [2016-11-18 15:19:09] anonymous789 : position* [2016-11-18 15:19:33] wurstgelee : predicted next funding is positive now ;) [2016-11-18 15:20:28] anonymous789 : :) [2016-11-18 15:30:53] anonymous789 : this slow pump has been going on for ~18 hours now [2016-11-18 15:32:55] rapidtrades : $44 premium ain't bad for 41 days [2016-11-18 15:33:20] rapidtrades : that's 0.14% per day [2016-11-18 15:34:39] rapidtrades : 52% per annum lol [2016-11-18 15:37:07] anonymous789 : rapidtrades: i dont know how these futures work [2016-11-18 15:37:18] rapidtrades : new lows for Euro [2016-11-18 15:37:59] anonymous789 : reversal hammer on the hourly in okcoin? [2016-11-18 15:38:10] anonymous789 : lol woodchipper [2016-11-18 15:38:12] anonymous789 : okc* [2016-11-18 15:42:54] Dtrade16 : morning [2016-11-18 15:48:21] aaa : morning, murica [2016-11-18 15:48:53] rapidtrades : God Bless Donald Trump and his transition cabinet! [2016-11-18 15:50:44] Dtrade16 : Canada actually [2016-11-18 15:51:10] Rado : rapidtrades: good for your FX trading? [2016-11-18 15:51:29] rapidtrades : yes making $$$ [2016-11-18 15:51:39] Rado : nice [2016-11-18 15:51:52] rapidtrades : sizes are somewhat small though cos of that volatility spike right before this trend [2016-11-18 15:52:14] rapidtrades : i am short euro and long usd/jpy [2016-11-18 15:52:30] rapidtrades : also long usdrub but that's not moving much atm [2016-11-18 15:53:03] Rado : need to get on FX soon [2016-11-18 15:53:11] Rado : rapidtrades: sleger also trades FX? [2016-11-18 15:53:33] elmorte : Trades? He owns it [2016-11-18 15:53:47] rapidtrades : me makes markets in fx, doesn't trade directionally i think @Rado [2016-11-18 15:53:59] rapidtrades : he* [2016-11-18 15:54:40] Rado : k [2016-11-18 15:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 22500 @ 790.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-11-18 15:55:46] Rado : ops [2016-11-18 15:55:49] rapidtrades : 22k is mega rekt? [2016-11-18 15:56:40] martinium : thats only about 0.29 btc [2016-11-18 15:56:43] martinium : if at 100x [2016-11-18 15:56:45] Rado : for ZBTZ16 [2016-11-18 15:58:24] BitMEX_Sam : Two new order types are now live (please refresh): `Take Profit` and `Take Profit Market` [2016-11-18 15:58:27] bernx : пуе куфвн [2016-11-18 15:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 748.27 :punch: :whale: [2016-11-18 15:58:32] bernx : get ready [2016-11-18 15:59:31] anonymous789 : bernx: for? [2016-11-18 15:59:40] Rado : rekt rekt rekt [2016-11-18 15:59:46] anonymous789 : which way? [2016-11-18 15:59:54] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: nice. What do they do? [2016-11-18 16:00:02] Rado : down [2016-11-18 16:00:11] anonymous789 : Rado: agreed [2016-11-18 16:00:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2700 @ 747.42 [2016-11-18 16:00:14] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: They're like stops, but the trigger works the opposite way. [2016-11-18 16:00:25] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ#Take-Profit-Orders [2016-11-18 16:00:29] Rado : anonymous789: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/ri4fFB2E-More-consolidation-for-BTC/ [2016-11-18 16:00:57] anonymous789 : yeah i see it on the chinese chart just broke the uptrend [2016-11-18 16:01:04] rapidtrades : not seeing takeproit [2016-11-18 16:01:06] anonymous789 : towards the downside [2016-11-18 16:01:10] elmorte : I believe that's what I've been hoping for for months [2016-11-18 16:01:45] elmorte : Indeed. Cheers @BitMEX_Sam [2016-11-18 16:01:58] rapidtrades : oh it's in a dropbox now [2016-11-18 16:02:01] anonymous789 : next support i see around the 5130 cny level [2016-11-18 16:02:24] rapidtrades : it would be better if its on the current open position and easily amendable [2016-11-18 16:03:01] rapidtrades : maybe drop the realised box and put take peofit [2016-11-18 16:03:57] rapidtrades : this doesn't add anything cos u could've just used a limit order to exit [2016-11-18 16:04:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, but a limit order sits in the book, a Take Profit order does not [2016-11-18 16:04:27] BitMEX_Sam : It also would not be able to do a Take Profit Market without this type. [2016-11-18 16:04:29] elmorte : Not with a trigger [2016-11-18 16:06:03] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: i see [2016-11-18 16:07:04] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: will it trigger if you have no position? [2016-11-18 16:07:20] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: It can, if you don't want that, set `Close` [2016-11-18 16:07:23] rapidtrades : yea i can see this being useful if u want to exit at certain index price for example [2016-11-18 16:07:57] elmorte : Thanks, I'll read up on it [2016-11-18 16:07:59] BitMEX_Sam : In general, the `Close on Trigger` option can be very useful to ensure your trigger orders do exactly what you want. [2016-11-18 16:27:46] golem : BitMEX_Sam: I see there is a small bug on the site. funding rate is 0.1417 in 3 hours [2016-11-18 16:28:00] sleger : and ? [2016-11-18 16:28:02] golem : and theh 0.0381 also in 3 hours [2016-11-18 16:28:12] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, the predicted rate should show 11 hours. Thanks @golem [2016-11-18 16:28:24] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: if `Close on Trigger` is checked and I have no position, is the order discarded immediately? [2016-11-18 16:28:40] golem : no problem :) [2016-11-18 16:28:41] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: When it triggers, if you have no position, then yes, it will cancel [2016-11-18 16:33:57] elmorte : Ok...so you can't be 100% certain that your Limit and Take Profit will execute in that order [2016-11-18 16:46:57] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: you on IRC? [2016-11-18 16:55:16] elmorte : Why can't I set a Take Profit Long with a trigger higher than the current price? [2016-11-18 16:55:35] elmorte : Take Profit Limit* long [2016-11-18 16:55:37] BitMEX_Sam : You'd want to use a Stop for that. [2016-11-18 16:57:14] elmorte : Not just a hat rack, are ya :) Thx [2016-11-18 17:50:07] RoftheN : Factom Receives Grant From Gates Foundation For Medical Records Project [2016-11-18 18:02:40] zcasher7777 : hhhhhhhhhh after thousand of dollar now zec only 76dollar [2016-11-18 18:09:18] Spudger : I had a buy stop set this morning but it never triggered. Status: Rejected ? [2016-11-18 18:10:24] wurstgelee : go fct! :) [2016-11-18 18:10:46] zcasher7777 : sorry was ezating noddl ;-) [2016-11-18 18:10:46] zcasher7777 : ;-) [2016-11-18 18:12:56] Spudger : Rejcted: Order had execInstance of Close and side of Buy but current position is 0. So you can't do buy stops on bitmex? [2016-11-18 18:14:45] wurstgelee : i like how factom gives a fuck about btc and pumps anyways [2016-11-18 18:14:49] wurstgelee : polo got bored i guess [2016-11-18 18:15:43] Spudger : I guess I must have had Close on Trigger activated then [2016-11-18 18:21:08] RocketScience : factom's got Bill Gates funding for medical records database [2016-11-18 18:22:03] wurstgelee : that news isnt so new tho? [2016-11-18 18:22:18] wurstgelee : at least i read it somewhere earlier [2016-11-18 18:22:27] RocketScience : yeah 2 hours [2016-11-18 18:22:34] wurstgelee : oh k [2016-11-18 18:22:40] wurstgelee : thought it was longer ago [2016-11-18 18:22:44] RocketScience : bitcoin china ban news took 5 hours to really drop the price [2016-11-18 18:22:49] RocketScience : zerohedge rumors [2016-11-18 18:23:03] wurstgelee : there is some action @ polo [2016-11-18 18:23:30] wurstgelee : could be a nice pump if btc doesnt shit the bed now [2016-11-18 18:23:51] wurstgelee : or especially if it shits the bed...depends on how u see it [2016-11-18 18:24:19] RocketScience : then eth moon [2016-11-18 18:24:34] RocketScience : 1800 btc buyside on eth...worst in a year [2016-11-18 18:25:18] wurstgelee : my btc short is fct, eth xmr long ;) [2016-11-18 18:26:53] RocketScience : i want to peg btc to 1000 usd and trade alts in peace :D [2016-11-18 18:27:01] wurstgelee : hehe [2016-11-18 18:27:12] RocketScience : i miss summer pumps [2016-11-18 18:27:14] wurstgelee : i like that its either alts or btc [2016-11-18 18:27:31] wurstgelee : all alts or all btc would be boring [2016-11-18 18:27:44] wurstgelee : also yep, i muss summer 2014 [2016-11-18 18:27:45] wurstgelee : :| [2016-11-18 18:27:49] wurstgelee : miss [2016-11-18 18:28:31] rapidtrades : https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trumps-daughter-sits-landmark-japan-pm-talks-075503000.html [2016-11-18 18:28:36] rapidtrades : ^ lol [2016-11-18 18:29:17] sleger : why lol ? I'd like to meet with her too [2016-11-18 18:30:16] rapidtrades : she hardly seems qualified to attend that meeting [2016-11-18 18:32:20] dasdfasdf : Should have sen tyou [2016-11-18 18:34:24] wurstgelee : rapitrade excels in that japanese geisha dress [2016-11-18 18:34:28] wurstgelee : would probably have worked [2016-11-18 18:38:03] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: stop you'll turn on sleger :) [2016-11-18 18:38:20] wurstgelee : hehehe [2016-11-18 18:40:53] wurstgelee : fct :D [2016-11-18 18:52:22] RocketScience : btc tantrum [2016-11-18 18:53:33] rapidtrades : maybe they'll use the weekend to dump [2016-11-18 18:53:36] aethlios : bitmex please add a fill or kill ordrer to the platform (not api) [2016-11-18 18:54:03] rapidtrades : cos there wont be any fixings or forex moves to prop up prices [2016-11-18 18:55:02] wurstgelee : aethlios: +1 [2016-11-18 18:55:26] rapidtrades : +2 [2016-11-18 18:55:54] rapidtrades : extra orders can't hurt....and you're already use a dropbox so it won't be in the way [2016-11-18 18:56:32] aethlios : yes if I want to place a 100k order fill or kill, so a big boy can hit me or not. [2016-11-18 18:56:55] aethlios : there could be more battles for whales. [2016-11-18 18:59:43] BitMEX_Sam : aethlios: That's on the way, working on a Time-In-Force option [2016-11-18 19:00:25] aethlios : great, I am getting ready for war. [2016-11-18 19:01:39] wurstgelee : 8) [2016-11-18 19:05:05] sleger : aethlios: what you want is allornone, not fillorkill [2016-11-18 19:05:25] sleger : fillorkill is immediately filled or canceled so nobody can "hit" you [2016-11-18 19:06:35] sleger : either way it doesnt make sense to do what you are saying (for large orders sent by hand) [2016-11-18 19:09:08] aethlios : sleger: ok let's say I place a FOK for 100,000 now 746.5, what happens? [2016-11-18 19:09:25] sleger : nothing and your order is canceled [2016-11-18 19:09:44] sleger : since it cant be Fill its Kill [2016-11-18 19:09:56] sleger : that's usually what OR means [2016-11-18 19:10:31] wurstgelee : he wants fill (partly) and kill i guess [2016-11-18 19:10:44] aethlios : how long does appear on the book? can't stay for a predetermined time, let's say 30 sec.?? [2016-11-18 19:10:47] sleger : why would anyone want that [2016-11-18 19:10:51] wurstgelee : dunno [2016-11-18 19:11:01] sleger : aethlios: it doesnt appear in the book [2016-11-18 19:12:12] aethlios : what I want is to place a large order that appears on the book and has a limited time to be filled, let's say 30 sec. or unlimited time until i cancel, it must be filled all or canceled. [2016-11-18 19:13:30] sleger : and lets say you place a 100k buy at 746.5 and someone wants to sell the bid at 746 but for 10k, what would happen ? [2016-11-18 19:14:32] aethlios : the other books trades normally, so he sells 10k for 746, my order stays with a different colour. [2016-11-18 19:14:44] sleger : so you allow inverted markets ? [2016-11-18 19:15:04] sleger : lets assume the bid is at 745 and the guy wants to place an offer (sell) at 746 [2016-11-18 19:15:26] aethlios : my order can be hit from one trader, not many with small trades. [2016-11-18 19:15:45] sleger : but you understand that the order book might be inverted (bid > ask) then ? [2016-11-18 19:17:40] aethlios : that could make things strange, but if those orders have special notice colour maybe could exist. Because of large quantity i could offer a better bid than others (appreciate liquidity) [2016-11-18 19:18:36] elmorte : so...like OTC? [2016-11-18 19:18:39] aethlios : let's say someone places a 500,000 bid at 750, he appreciates liquidity so offers a premium for someone else to hit him [2016-11-18 19:19:46] aethlios : elmorte: yes like an OTC market inside the swap [2016-11-18 19:20:53] y1uy : fct upppp [2016-11-18 19:21:05] elmorte : That's quite specific [2016-11-18 19:21:15] y1uy : factom just got a grant by the bill gates foundation [2016-11-18 19:21:27] y1uy : to provide factom ledger to health care providers [2016-11-18 19:21:28] wurstgelee : btc up, fct down ;) [2016-11-18 19:21:28] y1uy : https://factom.com/blog/gates-foundation-grant [2016-11-18 19:21:32] elmorte : it was 2 days ago, ffs [2016-11-18 19:21:52] wurstgelee : exactly [2016-11-18 19:21:57] y1uy : what was 2 days ago? [2016-11-18 19:21:58] wurstgelee : nice short opp ;) [2016-11-18 19:22:26] y1uy : POSTED: NOVEMBER 18, 2016 BY TIANA LAURENCE [2016-11-18 19:22:57] wurstgelee : yep, i read it somehwere earlier tho [2016-11-18 19:23:02] sleger : aethlios: but why wouldnt you want to be hit for 50 times 10k ?? [2016-11-18 19:23:02] wurstgelee : yesterday iirc [2016-11-18 19:23:09] y1uy : probably rumour