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[2016-11-18 02:08:24] AudibleScience : Is that Chrome bug a new bug with the latest version?
[2016-11-18 02:08:57] AudibleScience : I've not seen that before yesterday and today
[2016-11-18 02:09:50] AudibleScience : never mind, it's no big deal anyway...
[2016-11-18 02:22:02] Newmex : If I deleverage a xbtz16 position, is it possible to up the leverage again after if the price goes up?
[2016-11-18 02:22:13] Newmex : assuming i am long^
[2016-11-18 02:22:32] Newmex : and i deleveraged a bit to avoid margin call
[2016-11-18 02:22:33] sleger : yes if you have the available margin
[2016-11-18 02:23:00] Newmex : if i no longer have the available margin appearing for me then i wont be able to?
[2016-11-18 02:23:13] Newmex : at all?^
[2016-11-18 02:23:21] Newmex : just wanting to make sure
[2016-11-18 02:23:52] BitMEX_Wally : Newmex: In general you can always increase leverage of an existing position
[2016-11-18 02:24:36] Newmex : ok. well the 25x and 30x and 50x options dont show up anymore. is that because the more i increase my position the lower leverage is offered?
[2016-11-18 02:24:50] Newmex : sorry for all the questions, still new to this site
[2016-11-18 02:24:55] Newmex : hence the username :)
[2016-11-18 02:25:08] BitMEX_Wally : As your increase your risk limit some of the high leverage is no longer available
[2016-11-18 02:25:15] Newmex : oh ok that makes sense. thanks
[2016-11-18 02:26:24] sleger : best guesses of 0kcoin weekly settlement price in a few hours ?
[2016-11-18 02:29:15] sleger : not all at once please
[2016-11-18 02:29:44] j8 : china will diverge some more before settlement i bet
[2016-11-18 02:30:51] j8 : it's the only explanation for $6 premium with 6 hours to go
[2016-11-18 02:31:12] sleger : yes thats why i asked
[2016-11-18 02:31:29] sleger : doesnt make a lot of sense unless some move is planned
[2016-11-18 02:33:16] j8 : its happened before, we all shorted it and got screwed
[2016-11-18 02:34:21] sleger : actually pretty sure will happen again
[2016-11-18 02:34:31] sleger : pump will start in >2 hours
[2016-11-18 02:34:57] sleger : has to go up more than 6$ for getting screwed though
[2016-11-18 02:35:10] j8 : the futures premium is the bait
[2016-11-18 02:35:59] rapidtrades : j8: :)
[2016-11-18 02:36:04] sleger : bitvc future has 2 hours and 0 premium thats why i think they will wait 2 hours
[2016-11-18 02:36:17] j8 : i see
[2016-11-18 02:36:22] rapidtrades : i remember that....i shorted at $2-3 and it blew up to $6 or smth by close
[2016-11-18 02:36:34] rapidtrades : or was it 10-20
[2016-11-18 02:36:51] sleger : rapidtrades: you shorted at 3
[2016-11-18 02:36:58] sleger : oh no that was a long sorry
[2016-11-18 02:37:24] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-11-18 02:49:56] micmix : j8: ten more dollars to $1000 CAD, can't wait to be rich again ;-)
[2016-11-18 02:50:21] j8 : micmix: it sure makes the mental math easy
[2016-11-18 02:50:28] micmix : yep
[2016-11-18 02:55:07] sleger : $5 for 5 hours, even better than the 1% funding for 8 hours
[2016-11-18 02:55:51] rapidtrades : sleger: there's no 1% for 8hrs?
[2016-11-18 02:56:00] sleger : there was
[2016-11-18 02:56:22] rapidtrades : oh...you're reminiscing
[2016-11-18 02:56:31] rapidtrades : ...you stock operator
[2016-11-18 02:56:57] sleger : then they introduced another cap... 0.375%
[2016-11-18 02:58:24] rapidtrades : caps everywhere
[2016-11-18 02:58:54] jose : sleger: they didnt introduced it, they hange the max leerage wich changed the max funding rate
[2016-11-18 02:59:12] sleger : thanks, we know
[2016-11-18 02:59:29] sleger : you mexican ?
[2016-11-18 02:59:38] sleger : go back behind that wall
[2016-11-18 02:59:42] sleger : oh wait a bit longer
[2016-11-18 02:59:58] jose : sleger: i know you know, but other people reading might not know
[2016-11-18 03:00:20] rapidtrades : i didn't know
[2016-11-18 03:00:34] rapidtrades : logically it doesn't make sense to lower the cap while increasing leverage
[2016-11-18 03:00:41] jose : BitMEX_Wally: still no button to jute people ?
[2016-11-18 03:00:50] sleger : its because the funding fee is part of the maintenance margin
[2016-11-18 03:01:14] rapidtrades : cos idiots will use more leverage now exacerbating the divergence with spot
[2016-11-18 03:01:52] rapidtrades : so far it's doing the job but could be problems in very high volatility like we had few months ago
[2016-11-18 03:02:01] sleger : jose: who do you want to jute?
[2016-11-18 03:02:21] rapidtrades : I want to jute hajibi
[2016-11-18 03:02:45] sleger : i always knew you guys had a thing
[2016-11-18 03:02:53] rapidtrades : 3 jutes and they're out
[2016-11-18 03:03:09] sleger : aren't you at 3 jutes already?
[2016-11-18 03:03:19] rapidtrades : no I'm at 2 jutes
[2016-11-18 03:21:04] rapidtrades : holy crap Yuan nearing 6.91
[2016-11-18 03:21:14] rapidtrades : euro below 1.06
[2016-11-18 03:22:40] j8 : make USD great again
[2016-11-18 03:24:02] rapidtrades : it just keeps going
[2016-11-18 03:26:11] Apocalyptic : parity soon amirite
[2016-11-18 03:26:58] rapidtrades : this would be 10th consecutive day of losses
[2016-11-18 03:31:58] j8 : but the tv said 11 days
[2016-11-18 03:32:29] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: not unlike ZEC
[2016-11-18 03:35:14] rapidtrades : j8: 10 for Euro, 11th for USD/CNY
[2016-11-18 03:35:20] j8 : ah
[2016-11-18 03:35:43] rapidtrades : usd/cnh had a small down day, breaking the streak
[2016-11-18 03:37:30] zanza : EUR = toilet paper ?
[2016-11-18 03:38:18] j8 : it's plastic, doesn't work well
[2016-11-18 03:38:25] zanza : wow USD 101.3
[2016-11-18 03:38:47] zanza : highest since ???
[2016-11-18 03:42:55] rapidtrades : 2002 :)
[2016-11-18 03:43:19] rapidtrades : 2003 actually
[2016-11-18 03:45:36] rapidtrades : and SP500 <0.5 % away from all time highs again
[2016-11-18 03:46:07] Dtrade16 : wow
[2016-11-18 03:46:43] Dtrade16 : Feels nice knowing I'm not holding much useless cad
[2016-11-18 03:47:14] Dtrade16 : every other currency is a joke compared to usd
[2016-11-18 03:47:23] Dtrade16 : so many damn legs
[2016-11-18 03:50:07] Apocalyptic : Dtrade16: CHF isn't so bad
[2016-11-18 03:51:20] Dtrade16 : Why is CHF so high anyway?
[2016-11-18 03:51:29] Dtrade16 : Banking industry or something?
[2016-11-18 03:51:38] Apocalyptic : it's considered a safe heaven currency
[2016-11-18 03:51:41] Dtrade16 : Prob all that usd over there
[2016-11-18 03:51:55] Dtrade16 : it's a usd proxy currency
[2016-11-18 03:52:00] Apocalyptic : the Swiss economy is doing quite well
[2016-11-18 03:52:02] Dtrade16 : let's just call it what it is
[2016-11-18 03:52:27] Apocalyptic : it's an island of prosperity in the wrecked in the middle of the wrecked EU
[2016-11-18 03:53:15] Dtrade16 : It's probably all foreign money that's why
[2016-11-18 03:53:31] Apocalyptic : yes, massive inflows
[2016-11-18 03:53:34] Dtrade16 : Swiss economy is a joke without foreign dollars
[2016-11-18 03:53:46] Dtrade16 : yah
[2016-11-18 03:59:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 21 @ 0.009304
[2016-11-18 03:59:24] mjones : golly gee wiz is btc about to break out
[2016-11-18 04:01:38] rapidtrades : mjones: just funding
[2016-11-18 04:14:50] mjones : china is $34 from the 2016 ATH. that means xbtz16 should be at $822 by then.
[2016-11-18 04:15:31] mjones : higher this goes the more people look at longing. the more users come here. the higher xbtz16 goes
[2016-11-18 04:15:40] mjones : assuming capmix doesn't step in
[2016-11-18 04:16:05] mjones : which then means hella big dumps with liquidations. = laggy bitmex (i hope not)
[2016-11-18 04:16:10] kingscrown : =]
[2016-11-18 04:16:51] mjones : 1,400,896 contracts now. i am going to keep track to see how it increases with price
[2016-11-18 04:18:05] mjones : because good luck dumping your long at a loss into the 1 market maker who removes their walls as price goes down. gotta be at your computer 24/7
[2016-11-18 04:24:41] Newmex : and what happens if price goes up? he will also remove his walls then? :)
[2016-11-18 04:29:29] j8 : sleger: nice call on bitvc settlement pump
[2016-11-18 05:01:26] j8 : meh, not in a hurry apparently
[2016-11-18 06:31:14] elmorte : Slick digest @BitMEX_Arthur
[2016-11-18 06:35:16] arbitrage001 : elmorte: all the digest so far have insight
[2016-11-18 06:35:44] arbitrage001 : world is about to blow up, and we are trading bitcoin here
[2016-11-18 06:36:22] elmorte : yeah, but I enjoyed this one in particular since I trade with China a lot
[2016-11-18 06:36:50] elmorte : Are you hedging the ringgit in any way?
[2016-11-18 06:37:04] arbitrage001 : only keep 1-2 months of expense here
[2016-11-18 06:37:26] elmorte : clever
[2016-11-18 06:37:39] arbitrage001 : i dont think asset in malaysia can hedge against inflation
[2016-11-18 06:37:50] arbitrage001 : or rm depreciation
[2016-11-18 06:38:41] elmorte : nope, real estate is in bubble and deposit rates don't even keep up with the inflation
[2016-11-18 06:39:00] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-11-18 06:39:13] arbitrage001 : and people were complain about negative yield in europe
[2016-11-18 06:39:28] arbitrage001 : the asset in KL have deeper negative yield
[2016-11-18 07:26:39] BitMEX_Arthur : We have had some requests to add a XBT/CNY swap or future, would like to hear feedback on whether that product is desired
[2016-11-18 07:27:09] sleger : would trade a little bit
[2016-11-18 07:36:57] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Arthur: I would love to have XBT/CNY quarterly
[2016-11-18 07:37:25] Zen Trader : BitMEX_Arthur: Where do i go for support I have a PNL I dont fully understand as I didnt close any positions and my entry price didnt recalculate.
[2016-11-18 07:37:39] BitMEX_Arthur : support@bitmex.com
[2016-11-18 07:37:41] chromaticcr1 : BitMEX_Arthur: yes, since most casinos (leveraged platfrom) are CNY, or partially cny denominated. I would be happy to have that to make 1: arbitrage, 2:proxy bet of USDCNY with XBTUSD (need to see how funding works for XBTCNY)
[2016-11-18 07:38:00] BitMEX_Arthur : most likely we would just do a future instead of swap
[2016-11-18 07:39:24] j8 : i like it
[2016-11-18 07:39:53] sleger : j8: surprisingly quiet settlement so far
[2016-11-18 07:40:42] j8 : yep, not much action, quarterly really pushed up though
[2016-11-18 07:47:11] zanza : silver got donkey punched
[2016-11-18 07:51:11] BitMEX_Wally : Zen Trader: I have replied to your support ticket, short answer is funding payments
[2016-11-18 07:56:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 69 @ 0.013020
[2016-11-18 08:02:11] Mm bot : Market maker getting out of the way on BTC 3M
[2016-11-18 08:02:51] rapidtrades : weird, so shorting that $5 premium on okc would've made $$$
[2016-11-18 08:03:06] sleger : yes and pump just after
[2016-11-18 08:05:44] der : Haven't been here for a while...what happened to the China A50 trade?
[2016-11-18 08:08:46] BitMEX_Wally : der: We no longer offer that product
[2016-11-18 08:09:38] der : I see, what's the reason behind that?
[2016-11-18 08:10:37] BitMEX_Wally : Lack of customer interest
[2016-11-18 08:11:22] der : I see, thanks
[2016-11-18 08:13:12] rapidtrades : crazy vol in Euro right now
[2016-11-18 08:18:28] Kahir : BitMEX_Wally: why charts some times show as lines ?
[2016-11-18 08:18:36] Kahir : how i fix that
[2016-11-18 08:19:14] marinomedia : How to close out a position? Enter oppsoite equal market order??
[2016-11-18 08:19:50] Kahir : marinomedia: down right u will see u can either close at market price or enter value
[2016-11-18 08:20:48] marinomedia : Kahir thanks brother i forogot to scroll
[2016-11-18 08:22:54] elmorte : I got 10k euros that I need to use for CNY payment in 7 days...wondering wtf to do
[2016-11-18 08:23:43] rapidtrades : use it for CNY payment dummy
[2016-11-18 08:24:04] elmorte : yeah, but convert now, convert in a week...convert to USD first...
[2016-11-18 08:28:23] elmorte : I'm leaning towards converting it to USD and letting it sit...euro's not gonna make some miraculous rebound in the next few days, is it?
[2016-11-18 08:34:35] BitMEX_Wally : Kahir: The chart should have candlesticks for the traded price and a thin line for the underlying index price
[2016-11-18 08:35:03] Kahir : BitMEX_Wally: i keep refreshing till it get fixed
[2016-11-18 08:35:33] BitMEX_Wally : Might be an issue with your connection requesting the data
[2016-11-18 08:36:08] BitMEX_Wally : You can also right-click on the chart and choose Reset Chart
[2016-11-18 08:51:58] jose : why is ETH dropping ?
[2016-11-18 08:52:20] habibi : coz its future ! :)
[2016-11-18 08:52:23] jose : market manipulation before settlement ?
[2016-11-18 08:52:24] wurstgelee : it found a penny
[2016-11-18 08:52:33] wurstgelee : and is trying to pick it up
[2016-11-18 08:52:43] wurstgelee : gday
[2016-11-18 08:52:53] wurstgelee : just in time for okc settlement
[2016-11-18 08:53:10] wurstgelee : well
[2016-11-18 08:53:11] wurstgelee : almost
[2016-11-18 08:53:12] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-18 08:53:13] habibi : people loosing patience on one hand, on other hand not much people willing to buy and support price, as long as there will be no real panic there won't be real bounce as well
[2016-11-18 09:10:56] anonymous789 : damn it, sleep is my worst enemy, reached near my target price last night to close my short
[2016-11-18 09:13:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2500 @ 747.13
[2016-11-18 09:13:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1885 @ 746.82
[2016-11-18 09:13:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1310 @ 746.58
[2016-11-18 09:14:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.054662
[2016-11-18 09:14:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 2 @ 0.055382
[2016-11-18 09:14:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 13 @ 0.055701
[2016-11-18 09:14:42] aethlios : zcash dives to zzero soon. hype goes away.
[2016-11-18 09:16:29] wurstgelee : i am a little jelly because someone else was faster and got that liquidation order ;)
[2016-11-18 09:25:20] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: could u ask monero MM to come back
[2016-11-18 09:26:08] anonymous789 : this little pump seems a bit half hearted in xbt
[2016-11-18 09:26:21] wurstgelee : not sure yet
[2016-11-18 09:26:42] Kahir : btc moon ?
[2016-11-18 09:26:57] anonymous789 : although btc does tend to act more like a coiled spring
[2016-11-18 09:27:26] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 09:27:38] aethlios : kraken new high above 16th june top
[2016-11-18 09:27:42] anonymous789 : regret not closing my short before i went to bed now in the high 730s :(
[2016-11-18 09:28:11] wurstgelee : coiled spring behavior is a problem for ta...
[2016-11-18 09:28:23] anonymous789 : TA can also predict it though
[2016-11-18 09:28:32] wurstgelee : its ok for prediction probably
[2016-11-18 09:28:48] wurstgelee : not so much for where educated fomo would be the right choice imo ;)
[2016-11-18 09:29:10] anonymous789 : breakouts you can predict from the candlestick with fairly decent accuracy but i'm not great with that micro level of technical analysis
[2016-11-18 09:30:27] wurstgelee : i agree with "kinda weak" tho
[2016-11-18 09:31:25] anonymous789 : poloniex going higher
[2016-11-18 09:31:33] habibi : eth shitting
[2016-11-18 09:31:42] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-18 09:31:44] anonymous789 : habibi: great time to buy ;)
[2016-11-18 09:31:47] aethlios : eth zero zero
[2016-11-18 09:31:52] habibi : wait for more panic
[2016-11-18 09:31:53] wurstgelee : time for knife catching eth is near
[2016-11-18 09:33:59] anonymous789 : the fundamentals for eth are so good though, the dev team, community, sponsors, certainly worth more than it is right now
[2016-11-18 09:34:39] wurstgelee : i longed some, a little bit ;)
[2016-11-18 09:34:51] anonymous789 : imo there is a whole lot of nothing going on in btc, this whole pump is nearly baseless
[2016-11-18 09:35:02] habibi : zec 500 spot s wall
[2016-11-18 09:35:09] anonymous789 : community been arguing about hard fork for damn near 2 years ridiculous
[2016-11-18 09:35:26] wurstgelee : sell walls are for buying....
[2016-11-18 09:35:27] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 09:36:19] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: i'm 'trading' btc but invested in eth
[2016-11-18 09:36:47] wurstgelee : habibi: i am curious if that will @ .1 is there to be filled or not
[2016-11-18 09:36:51] wurstgelee : *wall
[2016-11-18 09:44:14] anonymous789 : what's interesting is this site says pricing source kaiko for xbt but on kaiko the price is 765 lol
[2016-11-18 09:45:11] wurstgelee : bitmex has a special kaiko index
[2016-11-18 09:45:24] wurstgelee : anonymous789: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-11-18 09:45:43] anonymous789 : aah
[2016-11-18 09:48:04] wurstgelee : anonymous789: its 50% stamp and 50% okc usd
[2016-11-18 09:48:11] wurstgelee : so 2 illiquid exchanges....
[2016-11-18 09:48:40] wurstgelee : more up
[2016-11-18 09:48:44] Kahir : 3 2 1
[2016-11-18 09:49:01] wurstgelee : closed my eth&xmr in time with a profit :p
[2016-11-18 09:49:30] anonymous789 : 760 is where i start panicking about my short lol
[2016-11-18 09:49:35] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-18 09:50:04] wurstgelee : wow
[2016-11-18 09:50:07] anonymous789 : funding rate is calming my nerves a bit lol
[2016-11-18 09:50:08] wurstgelee : stamp just made a new high
[2016-11-18 09:50:12] wurstgelee : $750
[2016-11-18 09:50:17] wurstgelee : year high that is
[2016-11-18 09:50:35] anonymous789 : nice
[2016-11-18 09:50:51] aethlios : 800 today
[2016-11-18 09:51:03] wurstgelee : more alt doom
[2016-11-18 09:51:09] aethlios : and then the big rally to 1175 previous ATH.
[2016-11-18 09:55:20] anonymous789 : so i feel if this breaks this level with significant volume we go way higher, if not there probably should be some correction to the 730 level
[2016-11-18 09:55:35] anonymous789 : and then it would probably go back up and break through no problem
[2016-11-18 09:56:53] aethlios : may french elections, if lepen wins panic will hit euro holders, and new demand for btc.
[2016-11-18 09:57:44] l3f : aethlios: I thought that's next year
[2016-11-18 09:57:48] l3f : the dawn of Le Pen
[2016-11-18 09:58:14] aethlios : 6 of may 2nd round i think. also germen elections later 2017
[2016-11-18 09:58:38] l3f : le insane funding rate face
[2016-11-18 09:59:07] aethlios : lepen says now in interviews for referendum for frexit if elected
[2016-11-18 10:03:23] Kalman : anyone looking at US long term interest rates?
[2016-11-18 10:32:43] zanza : USd is on a roll, 100% rate increase coming
[2016-11-18 10:38:49] arbitrage001 : US needs to weaken its currency
[2016-11-18 10:39:01] arbitrage001 : interest rate has to go to negative
[2016-11-18 10:39:08] anonymous789 : arbitrage001: agreed
[2016-11-18 10:39:24] arbitrage001 : depositor paid debtor 10% a year
[2016-11-18 10:42:21] wurstgelee : eth about to die.....
[2016-11-18 10:42:37] arbitrage001 : wont say die
[2016-11-18 10:42:45] arbitrage001 : drop 50%?
[2016-11-18 10:43:03] wurstgelee : that equals dying imo
[2016-11-18 10:43:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 10:43:05] arbitrage001 : the coin/smart contract still work as before regardless of price
[2016-11-18 10:43:11] arbitrage001 : same as btc
[2016-11-18 10:43:24] wurstgelee : yes ofc, idc tho
[2016-11-18 10:43:32] wurstgelee : i want a big knife ;)
[2016-11-18 10:45:11] arbitrage001 : traders who gamble on alt coin rarely end well
[2016-11-18 10:45:22] arbitrage001 : wish i was more discipline
[2016-11-18 10:46:11] 72monkey : Is there any swap cost on Dec 30 100x XBT?
[2016-11-18 10:46:29] arbitrage001 : 72monkey: the cost is the premium you pay
[2016-11-18 10:46:36] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: thats not true, i am doing fine with knife catching
[2016-11-18 10:46:38] wurstgelee : always have been
[2016-11-18 10:46:46] wurstgelee : one of the easiest things to do imo ;)
[2016-11-18 10:47:00] 72monkey : ok I see, so no continous costs like perpetual swap 100x
[2016-11-18 10:47:05] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-18 10:47:11] 72monkey : great
[2016-11-18 10:47:12] 72monkey : thanks
[2016-11-18 10:47:22] arbitrage001 : difference between swap and future here are fix vs variable cost
[2016-11-18 10:47:38] arbitrage001 : predictable and non-predictable
[2016-11-18 10:47:45] zanza : Saudi Arabia will drop USD for oil reserve soon
[2016-11-18 10:48:02] arbitrage001 : zanza: doubtful
[2016-11-18 10:48:14] arbitrage001 : saudi has lots of enemies in the region
[2016-11-18 10:48:19] zanza : :D
[2016-11-18 10:48:31] arbitrage001 : including soviet and iran
[2016-11-18 10:48:33] arbitrage001 : isis
[2016-11-18 10:48:45] arbitrage001 : and israel
[2016-11-18 11:01:13] wurstgelee : still keeping 1:2 here.... zec
[2016-11-18 11:01:20] wurstgelee : mex to polo
[2016-11-18 11:01:22] wurstgelee : i am amazed
[2016-11-18 11:01:24] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-18 11:06:34] arbitrage001 : will wait till dec to see what i do with zec position
[2016-11-18 11:06:43] arbitrage001 : if it hold this level, maybe i will add
[2016-11-18 11:06:44] wurstgelee : unless pump ofc
[2016-11-18 11:06:49] arbitrage001 : assuming discount is still high
[2016-11-18 11:06:54] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-18 11:07:10] arbitrage001 : got to give balls to shorter
[2016-11-18 11:07:13] wurstgelee : i just bought 10 @ .053 tbh
[2016-11-18 11:07:14] arbitrage001 : shorting at huge discount
[2016-11-18 11:07:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-18 11:07:25] wurstgelee : well, and some more
[2016-11-18 11:07:30] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-18 11:07:49] arbitrage001 : doubt rapid will be make whole
[2016-11-18 11:07:54] arbitrage001 : if he is long at 2 btc
[2016-11-18 11:07:55] wurstgelee : lol no way
[2016-11-18 11:07:57] wurstgelee : 3
[2016-11-18 11:07:58] wurstgelee : !
[2016-11-18 11:08:18] wurstgelee : his negative upnl is bigger than mine
[2016-11-18 11:08:24] wurstgelee : and i have 160 contracts...
[2016-11-18 11:08:26] wurstgelee : he has 1
[2016-11-18 11:08:27] wurstgelee : afaik
[2016-11-18 11:08:29] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-18 11:08:41] arbitrage001 : fund got locked up and miss this btc rally
[2016-11-18 11:08:49] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-18 11:08:52] arbitrage001 : he only bet 1 ?
[2016-11-18 11:09:02] wurstgelee : he says he doesnt add to losers
[2016-11-18 11:09:10] wurstgelee : dont know if still true
[2016-11-18 11:09:14] arbitrage001 : trading strategy is all wrong
[2016-11-18 11:09:24] arbitrage001 : shouldnt go all in on 1st move
[2016-11-18 11:09:31] wurstgelee : ofc not
[2016-11-18 11:19:06] arbitrage001 : discoint on swap is higher than funding again
[2016-11-18 11:25:57] CrazyAlfy : BitMEX: The Trade History filters are fantastic. Can you add the same filter functionality to the Transaction History page?
[2016-11-18 11:42:58] zanza : https://bitcoincore.org/en/segwit_adoption/
[2016-11-18 11:43:08] dasdfasdf : Will it happen?
[2016-11-18 11:43:19] zanza : segwit starts today, only 5% signal lol
[2016-11-18 11:44:20] dasdfasdf : only 20 blocks in
[2016-11-18 11:44:39] zanza : i hope we get Corexit
[2016-11-18 11:44:45] dasdfasdf : y?
[2016-11-18 11:44:56] zanza : censorshi[ for 1
[2016-11-18 11:45:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5010 @ 0.001183
[2016-11-18 11:45:40] zanza : 2) for stopping block increase
[2016-11-18 11:46:22] zanza : 3) trying to shove segwit dowwn throat
[2016-11-18 11:46:33] dasdfasdf : stupid engineers
[2016-11-18 11:46:37] dasdfasdf : building quality code
[2016-11-18 11:47:19] zanza : $80 Million company owns core
[2016-11-18 11:47:47] kradiav : segwit is needed either way, block increase will be useless within a day
[2016-11-18 11:48:09] zanza : why? it worked for 5 yrs on 1 MB
[2016-11-18 11:48:24] dasdfasdf : If you start using a segwit wallet your transations will be cheaper
[2016-11-18 11:48:55] dasdfasdf : zanza: Do you know what a hard fork is?
[2016-11-18 11:49:03] zanza : cheaper than 30 cent currently :)
[2016-11-18 11:49:13] zanza : yes dasdfasdf
[2016-11-18 11:49:22] kradiav : segwit enables further decentralization and will allow new applications that are really tough to impossible to do at the moment
[2016-11-18 11:49:27] dasdfasdf : WHy chance spitting network?
[2016-11-18 11:49:58] Kahir : its 95% thats not splitting
[2016-11-18 11:50:57] dasdfasdf : block size change is hardfork
[2016-11-18 11:51:07] dasdfasdf : either way, segwit is gonna get adopted.
[2016-11-18 11:51:30] zanza : most people oppose segwit who vote
[2016-11-18 11:51:51] dasdfasdf : zanza: what vote
[2016-11-18 11:52:01] anonymous789 : you know poloniex would list bitcoin classic :P
[2016-11-18 11:53:33] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5dd13f/discussion_what_metrics_can_be_used_to_measure/
[2016-11-18 11:55:12] dasdfasdf : Which metric do you find valuable?
[2016-11-18 11:56:26] zanza : idk
[2016-11-18 11:57:57] zanza : i dont think segwit will be smooth adoption
[2016-11-18 11:58:06] dasdfasdf : Where will be the snag?
[2016-11-18 11:58:24] zanza : 95% signal
[2016-11-18 12:06:45] anonymous789 : this looks like a double top on the daily... anyone else agree?
[2016-11-18 12:07:32] zanza : hard to say
[2016-11-18 12:08:17] zanza : did break new high
[2016-11-18 12:08:32] anonymous789 : there's a solid uptrend line from about may 2016 which suggests it needs to correct to about the 680 level
[2016-11-18 12:09:20] anonymous789 : i don't think it has broken the previous high of this year right?
[2016-11-18 12:09:28] wurstgelee : we have
[2016-11-18 12:09:33] wurstgelee : stamp has
[2016-11-18 12:09:54] anonymous789 : nope, at least on bitmex swap chart previous high was around 770 in june
[2016-11-18 12:10:07] zanza : look at ok casino
[2016-11-18 12:10:14] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-18 12:10:15] wurstgelee : my bad
[2016-11-18 12:10:27] wurstgelee : but china has
[2016-11-18 12:10:49] zanza : 30 month high
[2016-11-18 12:10:53] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-18 12:11:39] anonymous789 : oh that's even more interesting
[2016-11-18 12:11:45] anonymous789 : that chart looks even more bearish imo
[2016-11-18 12:12:41] anonymous789 : yeah looking at okc chart it is going to correct and possibly very sharply
[2016-11-18 12:13:24] anonymous789 : at least that's how i see it
[2016-11-18 12:13:31] anonymous789 : based on previous rallys of course
[2016-11-18 12:14:44] anonymous789 : to around the 5070 level?
[2016-11-18 12:16:57] anonymous789 : lower lows and lower highs on the hourly
[2016-11-18 12:36:58] mjones : Zec longs feeling the pressure
[2016-11-18 12:38:03] wurstgelee : not at all
[2016-11-18 12:38:14] wurstgelee : as long as we keep ~ 1:2 to polo, longs are gonna be fine
[2016-11-18 12:38:15] mjones : 400 more zec contracts open recently
[2016-11-18 12:38:15] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-18 12:38:30] mjones : Squeeze them with a pump
[2016-11-18 12:39:22] wurstgelee : i am curious to see how low people are going to short
[2016-11-18 12:39:25] anonymous789 : bah shorts gonna have to pay in 15 hours
[2016-11-18 12:39:44] wurstgelee : anonymous789: maybe, maybe not
[2016-11-18 12:39:49] wurstgelee : its a preview
[2016-11-18 12:39:54] anonymous789 : i hope not lol
[2016-11-18 12:39:56] mjones : Xrp and eth real low too
[2016-11-18 12:40:08] anonymous789 : i don't know how this funding rate works
[2016-11-18 12:40:46] aaa : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-11-18 12:40:52] wurstgelee : if we trade below mark for 8 h, shorts have to pay next funding
[2016-11-18 12:40:56] wurstgelee : and vice versa
[2016-11-18 12:41:02] wurstgelee : basically
[2016-11-18 12:41:04] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-18 12:41:50] aaa : Funding Rate (F) = Premium Index (P) + clamp(Interest Rate (I) - Premium Index (P), 0.05%, -0.05%)
[2016-11-18 12:43:30] anonymous789 : yeah that's much maths for my brain
[2016-11-18 12:43:34] anonymous789 : too much&*
[2016-11-18 12:43:36] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-18 13:02:51] zanza : EUR about to fall off cliff
[2016-11-18 13:16:23] Shaman : Clamp(x, a, b) = min(max(x,a),b)?
[2016-11-18 13:21:41] BitMEX_Wally : Shaman: yes
[2016-11-18 13:25:02] Shaman : Thanks, haven't seen notation before but the name is suggestive enough to get the idea
[2016-11-18 13:28:43] mjones : wow eth hit 0.0125
[2016-11-18 13:29:18] mjones : 0.0123 actually. new low
[2016-11-18 13:34:18] mjones : oh yeah settlement just happened. new positions being taken
[2016-11-18 13:42:44] trollboxer : Is there a way to sort open positions by price?
[2016-11-18 13:43:05] elmorte : eh?
[2016-11-18 13:43:30] Rado : trollboxer: it's called selling a position
[2016-11-18 13:45:29] trollboxer : Rado, I don't know what you mean
[2016-11-18 13:45:56] trollboxer : Are they any sortable column headings in the open positions window?
[2016-11-18 13:45:59] rapidtrades : yuan finally easing up today
[2016-11-18 13:46:06] rapidtrades : dollar down too
[2016-11-18 13:47:14] elmorte : yeah fck...should not have touched those euros
[2016-11-18 13:47:55] elmorte : trollboxer: you only have one position per contract
[2016-11-18 13:48:20] elmorte : so to compare positions by price makes no sense
[2016-11-18 13:48:27] elmorte : size, maybe
[2016-11-18 13:49:03] trollboxer : It would be nice to be able to sort fills by price
[2016-11-18 13:52:38] zcashequalslambo : if i buy moner ocntracts now
[2016-11-18 13:52:41] zcashequalslambo : is it for today
[2016-11-18 13:52:44] zcashequalslambo : or next firday
[2016-11-18 13:52:48] zcashequalslambo : and do they expire
[2016-11-18 13:52:52] zcashequalslambo : or sth?
[2016-11-18 13:54:12] sleger : yes, the last one
[2016-11-18 13:59:27] rapidtrades : http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38024897
[2016-11-18 13:59:28] zcashequalslambo : when is the new one then
[2016-11-18 14:00:00] laisee : the day after the old one
[2016-11-18 14:00:11] zcashequalslambo : so sat?
[2016-11-18 14:00:17] rapidtrades : cmon guys, FOMO....my kids can't live on 0.14%
[2016-11-18 14:00:31] Rado : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-18 14:00:35] Rado : do you have kids?
[2016-11-18 14:01:05] laisee : ... be the (price) change u want to see in the world ...
[2016-11-18 14:01:08] rapidtrades : look at that 88888 bid...we got a chinaman
[2016-11-18 14:01:27] Rado : yep
[2016-11-18 14:02:27] rapidtrades : btc-e finally catching up, 741 atm
[2016-11-18 14:02:56] Rado : sleger: still short?
[2016-11-18 14:03:10] sleger : Rado: short what ?
[2016-11-18 14:03:19] Rado : swap for fund
[2016-11-18 14:03:31] sleger : the swap yes but im net long
[2016-11-18 14:03:36] Rado : right
[2016-11-18 14:04:01] rapidtrades : sleger: do u ever rotate swap >dec30 and back?
[2016-11-18 14:04:08] sleger : yes
[2016-11-18 14:04:33] rapidtrades : yeah smart....i should start doing that, too lazy i guess
[2016-11-18 14:04:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 615 @ 0.012580
[2016-11-18 14:05:14] Rado : rapidtrades: also you lose upside on the amount you are short
[2016-11-18 14:06:38] rapidtrades : yeah but once u figure out ur risk u gotta stick to it, the upside is not guaranteed
[2016-11-18 14:06:57] Rado : true
[2016-11-18 14:07:18] Rado : ETH ouch
[2016-11-18 14:07:27] Rado : might buy some here for a potential bounce
[2016-11-18 14:08:54] Rado : Is ETH the second most traded crypto here after XBT?
[2016-11-18 14:09:28] rapidtrades : must be
[2016-11-18 14:09:34] Rado : wow REP has 434 XBT 24H volume
[2016-11-18 14:09:55] Rado : as much as XMR
[2016-11-18 14:10:10] Rado : ETH 911 XBT
[2016-11-18 14:10:20] sleger : but today was expiry so that might bias volumes
[2016-11-18 14:10:44] Rado : ah
[2016-11-18 14:10:49] Rado : forgot it's Friday
[2016-11-18 14:11:07] sleger : are you another of those millenials without a job ?
[2016-11-18 14:11:25] Rado : I do have a job
[2016-11-18 14:11:26] Rado : still
[2016-11-18 14:11:45] Rado : and I wish I was a millenial
[2016-11-18 14:11:49] Rado : <-- old
[2016-11-18 14:11:51] sleger : well then i brought you a good news
[2016-11-18 14:11:54] sleger : its friday !!
[2016-11-18 14:12:00] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-18 14:14:29] Rado : so spread only $20 now
[2016-11-18 14:14:46] Rado : should get to around $10
[2016-11-18 14:16:40] Rado : there is a divergence now on BTC
[2016-11-18 14:19:05] rapidtrades : $13 premium on okc weekly
[2016-11-18 14:23:27] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/ri4fFB2E-More-consolidation-for-BTC/
[2016-11-18 14:26:33] Rado : any feedback on this chart?
[2016-11-18 14:26:53] huangyong : .。。
[2016-11-18 14:27:13] huangyong : 没有人开空吗？ 我要开多啊
[2016-11-18 14:29:09] chromaticcr1 : -_-
[2016-11-18 14:29:21] Rado : huangyong: this is the best feedback I have received
[2016-11-18 14:29:40] chromaticcr1 : 小心庄主看上nile
[2016-11-18 14:29:52] Rado : ETH bouncing
[2016-11-18 14:29:59] Rado : rapidtrades: look at the bid now
[2016-11-18 14:30:14] Rado : 66666 and 77777
[2016-11-18 14:30:35] chromaticcr1 : huangyong你玩的溜溜溜嘛？
[2016-11-18 14:30:55] huangyong : 是我的
[2016-11-18 14:31:21] huangyong : 做空可以收利息，居然没人做空，日了狗了
[2016-11-18 14:35:34] anonymous789 : if you close a position at market rate, it doesn't close at mark price does it?
[2016-11-18 14:37:00] BitMEX_Sam : anonymous789: No, those are different. Mark Price is the system's idea of the value of the contract, but when you market close the price you get depends on the orders in the book
[2016-11-18 14:37:23] anonymous789 : BitMEX_Sam: aah thanks yeah that's what i thought, just confirming
[2016-11-18 14:37:34] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-11-18 14:38:16] huangyong : ?
[2016-11-18 14:39:18] elmorte : Rado: nice paint skillz
[2016-11-18 14:39:27] Rado : he he
[2016-11-18 14:42:51] Rado : ETH now higher volume than XMR on Polo
[2016-11-18 14:43:01] Rado : hasn't been the leader in some time now
[2016-11-18 14:44:39] meh : 60k long here? brave ppl here ^^
[2016-11-18 14:45:02] elmorte : Mostly traded on USDT there
[2016-11-18 14:46:01] Rado : meh: 60k is not that much
[2016-11-18 14:46:15] Rado : you only need 1 BTC
[2016-11-18 14:46:29] meh : too much risk imo
[2016-11-18 14:46:39] Rado : not really
[2016-11-18 14:46:47] Rado : right now BTC is not moving much
[2016-11-18 14:46:49] sleger : well maybe he is very poor
[2016-11-18 14:46:50] meh : short dip and you are out
[2016-11-18 14:46:54] sleger : or from ethiopia
[2016-11-18 14:46:55] Rado : you can easily put a "good" stop
[2016-11-18 14:47:37] Rado : meh: if you only have 1 BTC I will not recoomend to buy 60k contracts
[2016-11-18 14:48:00] Rado : but if your account has 50 BTC then it's just a normal trade
[2016-11-18 14:48:24] Rado : it's all relative
[2016-11-18 14:48:31] meh : thats another cup of tee
[2016-11-18 14:50:20] sleger : meh: are you sure?
[2016-11-18 14:50:46] sleger : like this one ? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjTjcbZxrLQAhVGLSYKHZaVD24QjBwIBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.dreamstime.com%2Fz%2Fcup-tee-24535817.jpg&psig=AFQjCNHa5xIStGw_WkQZtNJmC8i3zka50g&ust=1479566989790676
[2016-11-18 14:50:57] meh : but for fuck sake you started with "60k is not that much you need only 1 BTC", sure but risk would be too high and holding 50b @ MEX feels to risky too to me
[2016-11-18 14:51:33] meh : u know do whatever pleases you
[2016-11-18 14:52:03] sleger : some people have hundreds of thousands of positions here you know
[2016-11-18 14:52:17] sleger : they're mostly assholes though
[2016-11-18 14:52:33] wurstgelee : lol =)
[2016-11-18 14:53:14] meh : i do, and i appreciate the liquidity but its nothing for me, put 100BTC into coinjoin and take the hodl approach :p
[2016-11-18 14:54:56] Rado : meh: why are you here if you don't want to trade?