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[2016-11-17 16:01:28] arbitrage001 : nobody can afford american productif it does
[2016-11-17 16:02:04] arbitrage001 : except american,
[2016-11-17 16:03:11] Apocalyptic : yeah
[2016-11-17 16:03:24] Apocalyptic : Janet's killing exports
[2016-11-17 16:03:45] Rado : It's a global game
[2016-11-17 16:03:52] Rado : they don't care about US
[2016-11-17 16:04:10] Rado : "they"
[2016-11-17 16:04:11] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-17 16:04:44] rapidtrades : i think the market is relieved she didn't try to jawbone the dollar lower
[2016-11-17 16:05:07] rapidtrades : looks like december is a lock now
[2016-11-17 16:06:07] Rado : rapidtrades: you want to bet on that?
[2016-11-17 16:06:18] rapidtrades : sure why not
[2016-11-17 16:06:32] Rado : I will bet yo a six pack
[2016-11-17 16:06:50] wurstgelee : so btc back to where we were 6h ago
[2016-11-17 16:07:09] Rado : what is your preferred beer?
[2016-11-17 16:08:19] rapidtrades : idk Heineken?
[2016-11-17 16:08:41] rapidtrades : it's been a while since I've drunk beer :)
[2016-11-17 16:08:53] wurstgelee : eeeek
[2016-11-17 16:08:56] wurstgelee : obviously
[2016-11-17 16:09:04] wurstgelee : heineken is piss not beer
[2016-11-17 16:09:05] Rado : what do you drink?
[2016-11-17 16:09:17] wurstgelee : everythink else but heineken ;)
[2016-11-17 16:09:36] wurstgelee : no, seriously, pils usually
[2016-11-17 16:09:46] rapidtrades : water, milk, yogurt, juice :)
[2016-11-17 16:09:47] wurstgelee : one of them - but by far not my favorite, being Beck's
[2016-11-17 16:09:53] Rado : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-17 16:10:12] Rado : wurstgelee: which country are you in?
[2016-11-17 16:10:20] wurstgelee : lolz stamp
[2016-11-17 16:10:21] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-17 16:10:23] wurstgelee : germany
[2016-11-17 16:10:34] wurstgelee : hours of nothing -> 747
[2016-11-17 16:10:36] Rado : I like Germany draft beer
[2016-11-17 16:10:42] rapidtrades : i don't handle alcohol well :)
[2016-11-17 16:10:46] Rado : I have a friend in Munich
[2016-11-17 16:11:08] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-17 16:11:27] bubbagoose : what did you say about heineken ?
[2016-11-17 16:11:39] bubbagoose : that is the gods nectar
[2016-11-17 16:11:42] rapidtrades : bubbagoose: he said it's poss
[2016-11-17 16:11:46] rapidtrades : piss
[2016-11-17 16:12:05] bubbagoose : I search for that genuine import everywhere in my country
[2016-11-17 16:12:19] bubbagoose : and becks
[2016-11-17 16:12:20] wurstgelee : heineken?
[2016-11-17 16:12:27] bubbagoose : and carlsberg
[2016-11-17 16:12:30] wurstgelee : its like making love in a canoe...
[2016-11-17 16:12:36] habibi : :D
[2016-11-17 16:12:38] wurstgelee : f*cking close to water
[2016-11-17 16:12:48] sleger : why would one drink beer when the french gave the world that marvelous gift that is champagne ???
[2016-11-17 16:13:01] rapidtrades : cos we're not chicks?
[2016-11-17 16:13:01] bubbagoose : lol you must be redneck hillbillys
[2016-11-17 16:13:08] wurstgelee : sleger: champagne is ok. i prefer spirits tho
[2016-11-17 16:13:11] wurstgelee : rum mostly
[2016-11-17 16:13:14] arbitrage001 : beer is a lot cheaper
[2016-11-17 16:13:25] arbitrage001 : and we dont like french
[2016-11-17 16:13:34] sleger : beer is for poor students
[2016-11-17 16:13:47] bubbagoose : lol wot
[2016-11-17 16:13:58] rapidtrades : problem with champagne is it doesn't feel like alcohol...easy to get wasted
[2016-11-17 16:14:07] bubbagoose : you animals would drink moose piss if it got you legless
[2016-11-17 16:14:13] sleger : and thats a problem why ? @rapidtrades
[2016-11-17 16:14:20] wurstgelee : i get acid reflux from champagne. after a bottle or 2
[2016-11-17 16:14:24] wurstgelee : sucks
[2016-11-17 16:14:29] sleger : true, acid is an issue
[2016-11-17 16:14:47] rapidtrades : yeah me too, that's why i avoid alcohol
[2016-11-17 16:14:56] rapidtrades : we're old lol
[2016-11-17 16:15:00] wurstgelee : drink less acidic alcohol
[2016-11-17 16:15:06] wurstgelee : like rum
[2016-11-17 16:15:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:15:16] bubbagoose : I had 1 guiness tonight but did not drink it all
[2016-11-17 16:15:30] sleger : guiness counts as eating not drinking
[2016-11-17 16:15:39] wurstgelee : tonight didnt even start yet but i'll prob have a glass of red
[2016-11-17 16:15:43] wurstgelee : *wine ofc
[2016-11-17 16:15:50] wurstgelee : or a bottle, no work tomorrow
[2016-11-17 16:16:02] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-17 16:16:05] rullwull : drink less alcohol, take more acid)))
[2016-11-17 16:16:20] wurstgelee : there are times for everything ;)
[2016-11-17 16:17:14] wurstgelee : okc quarterlies still pushing
[2016-11-17 16:17:26] themav : hi can someone help me with something. Why to "Set Sell Stop", is the Limit price higher than the stop price?
[2016-11-17 16:17:37] themav : i thought it shoudl be the other way around
[2016-11-17 16:17:55] themav : once we go below the stop price, we sell at up to limit priice
[2016-11-17 16:18:09] rapidtrades : themav: u mean stop limit?
[2016-11-17 16:18:19] themav : yes
[2016-11-17 16:18:23] wurstgelee : u can set it as u like
[2016-11-17 16:18:43] themav : if my limit price is below the stop price, my only option is "Set Buy Stop"
[2016-11-17 16:18:58] themav : this seems backwards to me
[2016-11-17 16:19:24] rapidtrades : themav: stop is the trigger price at which the order will 'go live' and limit is the price at which it still get executed
[2016-11-17 16:19:50] themav : right. So, if i am sillting, my stop should be higher than my limit
[2016-11-17 16:20:04] themav : i.e. if the price falls below the Stop, sell up to the Limit, no?
[2016-11-17 16:20:09] themav : am i thinking about this wrong?
[2016-11-17 16:20:10] bubbagoose : just heard about this Zclassic fork of Zcash making some moves
[2016-11-17 16:20:26] rapidtrades : if selling stop goes above limit yes
[2016-11-17 16:20:44] themav : that is not what this interface is letting me do
[2016-11-17 16:20:48] wurstgelee : bubbagoose: yes, down
[2016-11-17 16:20:49] bubbagoose : no slow start or founders reward and it has %10 zcash hash rate
[2016-11-17 16:20:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:21:17] wurstgelee : i was already down on c-cex, its down ever since listing @ trex
[2016-11-17 16:21:20] wurstgelee : *it
[2016-11-17 16:21:28] bubbagoose : doing the maths I think its perfectly valued where it is
[2016-11-17 16:21:54] themav : when my Limit price is higher than my Stop, my only option is "Set Sell Stop - again this seems backwards
[2016-11-17 16:22:07] themav : Support, help! :)
[2016-11-17 16:22:22] wurstgelee : bubbagoose: i am curious, how does that math look like?
[2016-11-17 16:22:47] rapidtrades : themav: trying to sell?
[2016-11-17 16:22:51] BitMEX_Wally : themav: What kind of order are you trying to set, a Stop Limit?
[2016-11-17 16:23:28] BitMEX_Wally : It is the Stop Price that determines if the Set Buy Stop or Set Sell Stop button is enabled
[2016-11-17 16:23:34] bubbagoose : wurstgelee: the % of hashrate to ZEC, daily inflation of 30k USD against 50k USD trade volume
[2016-11-17 16:24:09] wurstgelee : so it should go down way more....
[2016-11-17 16:24:10] bubbagoose : wurstgelee: once it holds this third wave down I think its going to take off on a nice bull run
[2016-11-17 16:24:33] wurstgelee : inflation morethan half the trading volume is a lot
[2016-11-17 16:24:40] Apocalyptic : bubbagoose: you mean you're hoping that someone here will pump it for you to sell, right ,
[2016-11-17 16:24:45] themav : @BitMEX_Wally, i am trying to set a sell stop limit
[2016-11-17 16:24:49] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: 8)
[2016-11-17 16:25:21] bubbagoose : Apocalyptic: yeah, get pump and put some air in the tires
[2016-11-17 16:25:24] themav : @BitMEX_Wally. oh thanks, i see
[2016-11-17 16:25:28] themav : great!
[2016-11-17 16:25:32] BitMEX_Wally : themav: Then you need to set a Stop Price that is below the current price, otherwise it would immediately trigger
[2016-11-17 16:25:53] themav : right
[2016-11-17 16:25:57] themav : i seee thanks so much
[2016-11-17 16:26:02] wurstgelee : bubbagoose: it made a new low. in this very second. ;)
[2016-11-17 16:26:10] bubbagoose : when it does bounce off this third wave it will get some attention
[2016-11-17 16:26:32] wurstgelee : haha. gl
[2016-11-17 16:26:35] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:27:15] bubbagoose : no luck. patience to buy and hold this one
[2016-11-17 16:27:32] bubbagoose : no rush for me to enter just yet
[2016-11-17 16:27:35] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: it seems to be crashing faster than ZEC even
[2016-11-17 16:27:41] Apocalyptic : that's something
[2016-11-17 16:27:47] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: yep ;)
[2016-11-17 16:27:58] wurstgelee : zec is closer to finding bottom tho, a lot
[2016-11-17 16:28:28] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: depends how you measure closer, in % value form current price or just the BTC delta :)
[2016-11-17 16:28:40] Apocalyptic : *from the current
[2016-11-17 16:29:02] arbitrage001 : bubbagoose: another zcash fanatic?
[2016-11-17 16:29:06] wurstgelee : delta. current value might easily drop 50% with some panic dump :)
[2016-11-17 16:29:09] arbitrage001 : welcome to the cult
[2016-11-17 16:29:19] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: zcash classic in his case :)
[2016-11-17 16:29:23] arbitrage001 : i am the proud owner of 45 zcash
[2016-11-17 16:29:30] wurstgelee : spot?
[2016-11-17 16:29:34] wurstgelee : or contracts?
[2016-11-17 16:29:38] arbitrage001 : contract lol
[2016-11-17 16:29:41] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 16:29:43] wurstgelee : 110
[2016-11-17 16:29:44] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-17 16:29:54] arbitrage001 : you got balls
[2016-11-17 16:30:03] arbitrage001 : since you had massive profit before
[2016-11-17 16:30:06] arbitrage001 : have
[2016-11-17 16:30:18] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: 110 @ 3 like rapid ?
[2016-11-17 16:30:26] Apocalyptic : I feel sorry for your loss
[2016-11-17 16:30:33] wurstgelee : i have less than 15% of those profits at risk...and only if it goes to 0 :)
[2016-11-17 16:30:38] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-17 16:30:46] arbitrage001 : i risk all of my profit lol
[2016-11-17 16:30:47] wurstgelee : current mark is pretty close to my entry
[2016-11-17 16:30:55] arbitrage001 : kind of regreting it now
[2016-11-17 16:31:02] wurstgelee : total upnl < -1 btc with 110 contracts ;)
[2016-11-17 16:31:12] arbitrage001 : but the buy price makes sense compare to market price
[2016-11-17 16:31:16] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-17 16:31:25] wurstgelee : very limited risk
[2016-11-17 16:31:50] wurstgelee : even if we settle @ .04 i'll get more than half back
[2016-11-17 16:33:06] wurstgelee : i am trying to add some @ .072 currently
[2016-11-17 16:33:08] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-17 16:33:28] arbitrage001 : should probably hold til dec
[2016-11-17 16:33:38] arbitrage001 : position is large enough
[2016-11-17 16:33:43] wurstgelee : yep. or dump if pump happens ;)
[2016-11-17 16:33:45] arbitrage001 : and will profit nicely if you are right
[2016-11-17 16:33:55] arbitrage001 : no point adding more risk
[2016-11-17 16:34:03] wurstgelee : i'll do great if we get a proper squeeze
[2016-11-17 16:34:09] wurstgelee : and i'll not die if we wont
[2016-11-17 16:34:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:42:15] wurstgelee : USD CHF parity :p
[2016-11-17 16:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2110 @ 745.79
[2016-11-17 16:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 744.45
[2016-11-17 16:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 750 @ 744.62
[2016-11-17 16:49:35] wurstgelee : lol wtf stamp...
[2016-11-17 16:49:38] wurstgelee : seriously
[2016-11-17 16:50:08] wurstgelee : $5 dump on 10 btc volume...
[2016-11-17 16:50:38] mjones : Lol no one trades on stamp
[2016-11-17 16:50:44] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-17 16:50:46] mjones : Horrible exchange to pick
[2016-11-17 16:50:48] wurstgelee : but our index is half stamp
[2016-11-17 16:50:49] arbitrage001 : think it will die soon
[2016-11-17 16:50:50] wurstgelee : :/
[2016-11-17 16:51:00] arbitrage001 : what is the volume on stamp?
[2016-11-17 16:51:06] wurstgelee : close to none
[2016-11-17 16:51:08] arbitrage001 : european trade on kraken?
[2016-11-17 16:51:18] lockhedge : 9200 btc on btcusd
[2016-11-17 16:51:21] wurstgelee : our index just dropped $3 because someone sold 10 btc on stamp....
[2016-11-17 16:51:21] arbitrage001 : or european dont know what btc is?
[2016-11-17 16:51:24] Apocalyptic : abyssimal
[2016-11-17 16:52:25] sleger : having bitstamp but not finex is pretty funny
[2016-11-17 16:52:29] habibi : yep, index should be definitely changed
[2016-11-17 16:52:43] wurstgelee : its a joke currently ;)
[2016-11-17 16:52:47] sleger : actually it is better like that, easy to make money of how dumb it is
[2016-11-17 16:53:02] arbitrage001 : sleger: sheeeh
[2016-11-17 16:53:06] wurstgelee : china moves 100 cny, stamp does nothing. china does nothing, stamp dumps $4
[2016-11-17 16:53:07] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-17 16:53:07] arbitrage001 : dont spill the bean
[2016-11-17 16:53:09] thomaskikansha : that depth on stamp
[2016-11-17 16:53:25] habibi : sleger: way easier using okc usd and stamp to mapiluate index, @night 20 btc buy on okc usd pushed price there up 6 dollars, stamp is pretty same liquidity
[2016-11-17 16:54:21] lockhedge : problem about bitstamp is mainly the spread (volume is higher than okc usd). could be solved by using a weighted mid price instead of last price for the index
[2016-11-17 16:54:42] wurstgelee : id like to trade contracts marked 50% hu0bi and 50% okc tbh
[2016-11-17 16:55:29] arbitrage001 : doesnt matter how the index is compose
[2016-11-17 16:55:43] arbitrage001 : someone will always figure out another way to game the system
[2016-11-17 16:56:16] wurstgelee : using a high volume index is cleary better than a low volume index, right?
[2016-11-17 16:56:22] habibi : what matters is u can gather from time to time few hundred btc position here and sell/buy few btc to move index for few dollars
[2016-11-17 16:56:25] arbitrage001 : of course
[2016-11-17 16:56:36] wurstgelee : habibi: that
[2016-11-17 16:57:15] arbitrage001 : but bitmex cant use any of the rmb exchange
[2016-11-17 16:57:23] arbitrage001 : since the currency is blocked
[2016-11-17 16:57:38] arbitrage001 : indexing using them would be meaningless
[2016-11-17 16:58:00] wurstgelee : we could trade XBTCNY here tho, right? ;)
[2016-11-17 16:58:25] lockhedge : habibi: that's why the index should follow a weighted mid price of the order books, not the last price
[2016-11-17 16:58:30] arbitrage001 : sound like bitmex is marketing toward the china audience
[2016-11-17 16:58:33] arbitrage001 : might eventually
[2016-11-17 17:00:25] j8 : arbitrage001: giving worldwide access to an isolated market is also an argument for doing it
[2016-11-17 17:01:10] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-17 17:03:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 550 @ 744.24
[2016-11-17 17:03:30] mjones : margin calling people again
[2016-11-17 17:05:56] wurstgelee : bought some
[2016-11-17 17:06:01] wurstgelee : good spot for a gamble ;)
[2016-11-17 17:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 345 @ 0.009214
[2016-11-17 17:29:46] y1uy : guys
[2016-11-17 17:29:50] y1uy : sell me some cheap btc
[2016-11-17 17:29:51] y1uy : :(
[2016-11-17 17:30:28] y1uy : https://i.imgflip.com/16umht.jpg
[2016-11-17 17:38:46] martinium : they really do need to change the index
[2016-11-17 17:39:03] martinium : bitstamp is low volume
[2016-11-17 17:39:09] martinium : as others here have already said
[2016-11-17 17:39:20] martinium : bitfinex needs to be added back as they are still around
[2016-11-17 17:40:06] sleger : that spike only brought us a 1% in funding fee, shame... doesnt make a lot of sense to be short the swap anymore here
[2016-11-17 17:40:27] martinium : I still don't get why pricing from GDAX isn't added. They serve US and Europe customers. Their volume matters
[2016-11-17 17:51:53] napoleon : why can't i just short future
[2016-11-17 17:51:56] napoleon : and long spot
[2016-11-17 17:51:57] napoleon : to make money
[2016-11-17 17:51:59] napoleon : plz explain
[2016-11-17 17:53:27] wurstgelee : why can't you place money on red and black? and always win?
[2016-11-17 17:53:36] wurstgelee : please explain
[2016-11-17 17:55:06] napoleon : seriously though
[2016-11-17 17:55:09] napoleon : sorry i am new
[2016-11-17 17:55:13] napoleon : still reading through everything
[2016-11-17 17:55:21] napoleon : is it accounted for in borrow cost on short future?
[2016-11-17 17:55:46] wurstgelee : there are no borrow costs but there is funding
[2016-11-17 17:56:00] wurstgelee : u dont trade actual coins here so u dont need to borrow
[2016-11-17 17:56:02] napoleon : does the funding fee account for the spread between future and spot
[2016-11-17 17:56:06] napoleon : got it
[2016-11-17 17:56:19] napoleon : so the funding rate accounts for the delta between spot and future
[2016-11-17 17:56:38] wurstgelee : funding is the tool of choice to push the market back to spot if we trade too high or too low here
[2016-11-17 17:57:19] wurstgelee : postive funding=longs pay, negative funding=shorts pay
[2016-11-17 17:57:31] wurstgelee : *i
[2016-11-17 17:57:44] napoleon : is this in a way just extension of interest parity?
[2016-11-17 17:57:50] napoleon : just for bitcoin?
[2016-11-17 17:58:23] wurstgelee : i dont understand your question
[2016-11-17 17:59:00] napoleon : sorry, i mean is the funding rate lead to existence of covered interest rate parity
[2016-11-17 17:59:20] napoleon : like what would generally happen with regular currencies
[2016-11-17 18:00:22] napoleon : actually wait think i understand, never mind
[2016-11-17 18:00:27] j8 : napoleon: yes the swap funding is supposed to reflect the floating difference in lending rates
[2016-11-17 18:01:18] martinium : j8: based on the index that only has 2 exchanges at present...
[2016-11-17 18:03:30] napoleon : ok so a potential trading strategy would be to mean revert the floating rate
[2016-11-17 18:04:01] wurstgelee : 5300 again
[2016-11-17 18:18:21] mjones : china orderbook is all fluff. can go either way with ease
[2016-11-17 18:18:54] wurstgelee : yep, closing everything atm =)
[2016-11-17 18:19:17] wurstgelee : well, almost. i'll keep a really small long
[2016-11-17 18:21:38] mjones : word. just chopping around the same price. just gonna wait it out
[2016-11-17 18:36:45] wurstgelee : so who is shorting zec here/closing longs? ;)
[2016-11-17 18:37:55] mjones : zec barely moves here. aint touching that
[2016-11-17 18:38:13] mjones : china dumping some more corn
[2016-11-17 18:39:26] habibi : yep china spot swings almost 9 dollars, no move here :(
[2016-11-17 18:39:37] wurstgelee : annoying
[2016-11-17 18:39:40] wurstgelee : fu stamp
[2016-11-17 18:41:55] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-17 18:41:59] wurstgelee : zec
[2016-11-17 18:42:05] wurstgelee : someone just flashed 700 orders
[2016-11-17 18:42:11] wurstgelee : sell side
[2016-11-17 18:42:56] zcashequalslambo : im going to jump in at 0.1 o nzec
[2016-11-17 18:43:01] zcashequalslambo : after rebound on polo
[2016-11-17 18:44:31] rapidtrades : f*ck ZEC that POS coin
[2016-11-17 18:45:17] mjones : someone flashed 700 ZEC sell wall on polo?
[2016-11-17 18:45:21] wurstgelee : here
[2016-11-17 18:45:25] mjones : o
[2016-11-17 18:45:26] wurstgelee : @ .07
[2016-11-17 18:45:41] mjones : that shitcoin doesnt even move on here.
[2016-11-17 18:46:19] wurstgelee : why would it?
[2016-11-17 18:46:33] wurstgelee : plenty of time till dec 30 and zec isnt moving much on polo iether
[2016-11-17 18:46:35] wurstgelee : *either
[2016-11-17 18:46:45] Apocalyptic : isn't moving much ?
[2016-11-17 18:46:52] Apocalyptic : it's dropping ~20%/day
[2016-11-17 18:46:55] wurstgelee : well its dumping...like all alts
[2016-11-17 18:46:55] Apocalyptic : every single day
[2016-11-17 18:47:12] mjones : zec is collapsing to match bitmex price i guess
[2016-11-17 18:47:18] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 18:47:20] mjones : if zec goes lower than here i wonder if bitmex follows
[2016-11-17 18:47:57] rapidtrades : ofc it's gonna follow
[2016-11-17 18:48:13] rapidtrades : it only follows it down here after capmex broke the market
[2016-11-17 18:48:22] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-17 18:48:27] wurstgelee : still salty
[2016-11-17 19:22:23] amirmass : btc 890$ on india
[2016-11-17 19:22:24] amirmass : moon time
[2016-11-17 19:23:52] sleger : OMG he is back
[2016-11-17 19:24:05] sleger : do you have children this time or not ?
[2016-11-17 19:24:13] Apocalyptic : amirmass: where can I see that?
[2016-11-17 19:24:29] amirmass : https://btcxindia.com/live-market/
[2016-11-17 19:30:01] Dtrade16 : Why such a premium on that exchange? Can't they get btc elsewhere?
[2016-11-17 19:30:19] martinium : they have to make money some how
[2016-11-17 19:30:24] martinium : bitcoin is rare in india
[2016-11-17 19:30:46] Apocalyptic : clearly not a frictionless market
[2016-11-17 19:31:56] Dtrade16 : Have we already priced this in?
[2016-11-17 19:32:04] Dtrade16 : The pump is over right?
[2016-11-17 19:33:08] arbitrage001 : india banned cash
[2016-11-17 19:33:17] arbitrage001 : 100 dollars bill
[2016-11-17 19:33:34] Dtrade16 : Yeah I heard
[2016-11-17 19:33:36] arbitrage001 : only way for criminal to deal now is use btc
[2016-11-17 19:33:45] Dtrade16 : How?
[2016-11-17 19:33:50] Dtrade16 : They can use other notes
[2016-11-17 19:34:02] Dtrade16 : and they can also exchange the notes
[2016-11-17 19:34:09] arbitrage001 : 500 M in cash? using 5 dollars bill?
[2016-11-17 19:34:46] Dtrade16 : What else are they going to do?
[2016-11-17 19:34:56] Dtrade16 : What can they buy w btc?
[2016-11-17 19:35:14] arbitrage001 : just saying india doing something stupid
[2016-11-17 19:35:32] arbitrage001 : to ban corruption, someone comeup with banning large note
[2016-11-17 19:36:09] Dtrade16 : Yah that's not the greatest plan
[2016-11-17 19:38:25] Rado : now they can use dimonds
[2016-11-17 19:38:42] arbitrage001 : diamond have no re-sell value
[2016-11-17 19:39:11] Rado : you are kidding right
[2016-11-17 19:39:17] arbitrage001 : i am not
[2016-11-17 19:39:23] mjones : india is actually creating new notes to replace the old
[2016-11-17 19:39:24] Rado : in North America you can sell it for the exact price you bought
[2016-11-17 19:39:43] arbitrage001 : are you sure?
[2016-11-17 19:39:44] mjones : but they won't be worth the same
[2016-11-17 19:39:51] mjones : that's what i read on the internet
[2016-11-17 19:41:23] AudibleScience : Sam, are you here?
[2016-11-17 19:43:14] AudibleScience : There is something really weird going on with the browser notifications appearing ages after the action that triggered it... like really a long time...
[2016-11-17 19:43:38] AudibleScience : I noticed this happening yesterday too.
[2016-11-17 19:45:48] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: Hi
[2016-11-17 19:46:06] BitMEX_Greg : What kind of delay are you seeing?
[2016-11-17 19:46:20] BitMEX_Greg : Do you mind sending us a support ticket? I will forward to Sam
[2016-11-17 19:46:29] AudibleScience : like massive man!
[2016-11-17 19:47:24] AudibleScience : I just saw one a moment ago for a 20k contract order that was in the book let me see exactly when for you...
[2016-11-17 19:47:52] BitMEX_Greg : Thanks, send us the info in a support ticket so we can get the info together
[2016-11-17 19:48:45] AudibleScience : It's not that much of a problem for me, but It could be very confusing, especially for new users.
[2016-11-17 19:49:44] BitMEX_Greg : I'll get sam to have a check when he's online
[2016-11-17 19:49:57] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: The order I just saw a notification for was actually in the book at 2016-11-17 17:29:31 my time... and it is now: 19:50 my time...
[2016-11-17 19:50:33] BitMEX_Greg : Odd
[2016-11-17 19:50:51] BitMEX_Greg : Thanks for the information
[2016-11-17 19:51:16] AudibleScience : No problem at all.
[2016-11-17 19:51:44] AudibleScience : Glad to help.
[2016-11-17 19:51:56] BitMEX_Greg : What version browser do you have btw?
[2016-11-17 19:53:05] AudibleScience : Chrome ver 54.0.2840.71 m
[2016-11-17 19:53:36] BitMEX_Greg : Cheers
[2016-11-17 19:59:49] BitMEX_Sam : Hey AudibleScience - that's actually a Chrome bug, at least in the iterations that I've seen it
[2016-11-17 20:00:11] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially if you keep notifications unacknowledged for a long time, or the browser/tab idle, it can do that
[2016-11-17 20:00:54] BitMEX_Sam : Were you active on the site and this notification just popped up way late, or were you idle/browsing other tabs then came back to it?
[2016-11-17 21:00:17] martinium : sleger: did you code your bots yourself?
[2016-11-17 21:01:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 490 @ 743.04
[2016-11-17 21:02:07] sleger : martinium: yes
[2016-11-17 21:30:18] qcqc : Let's say I short 1 BTC at 100x (100 BTC) with the 0.1242% interest rate. Does the interest rate apply on the 1 BTC or the 100 BTC ?
[2016-11-17 21:31:02] sleger : let's say 100btc
[2016-11-17 21:31:38] Zen Trader : The surge in bitcoin price was seen to be spurred by the influx of funds from Chinese investors as the government took fresh efforts to devalue the yuan.
[2016-11-17 21:36:16] QuantFocus : sleger: lol
[2016-11-17 21:39:53] mjones : 0kcoin settlement coming up. wonder if we'll get some movement.
[2016-11-17 21:40:42] mjones : xmr bouncing like crazy. anyone making money?
[2016-11-17 21:40:43] martinium : expect a drop
[2016-11-17 21:40:59] mjones : thinking drop too
[2016-11-17 21:41:24] mjones : waiting for usd to hit new highs before $800
[2016-11-17 21:41:35] martinium : sitting at this resistance
[2016-11-17 21:41:39] martinium : alllll dayyyyy
[2016-11-17 21:59:45] qcqc : How long do you have to hold a position to get the interest rates?
[2016-11-17 22:16:21] habibi : qcqc: at least 1 ms before funding
[2016-11-17 22:20:22] QuantFocus : starting to see some weakness in the quarterly
[2016-11-17 22:24:24] miramm1115 : $50 premium is still a lot
[2016-11-17 22:34:24] QuantFocus : miramm1115: agreed, but it's breaking down
[2016-11-17 22:40:30] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Arthur: another great read on the Digest this week
[2016-11-17 22:44:04] mjones : rofl xbtz16
[2016-11-17 22:44:12] mjones : new low so soon
[2016-11-17 22:44:24] miramm1115 : going to summon rekt
[2016-11-17 22:44:30] miramm1115 : rekt rekt rekt
[2016-11-17 22:44:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1498 @ 737.13
[2016-11-17 22:44:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1020 @ 736.70
[2016-11-17 22:44:59] miramm1115 : ^^^ it works!
[2016-11-17 22:45:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.013580
[2016-11-17 22:45:49] mjones : wish i was in a position but nope. now i wait
[2016-11-17 22:51:24] Rado : miramm1115: lol
[2016-11-17 22:55:54] QuantFocus : miramm1115: can you summon moar pls
[2016-11-17 22:56:41] mjones : lets see how many dip buyers bitfinex has
[2016-11-17 22:58:45] mjones : bitfinex possible bottom http://i.imgur.com/vKhR6XB.png
[2016-11-17 23:00:49] mjones : 0kcoin bottom http://i.imgur.com/GMAMPHt.png
[2016-11-17 23:03:09] Rado : mjones: nice charts
[2016-11-17 23:03:18] Rado : based on that I am loading up
[2016-11-17 23:03:19] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-17 23:03:31] mjones : lol watch btc fall over and die to 5000 cny and $700 now
[2016-11-17 23:08:36] mjones : looking up this recipe. calls for 1 pound of sugar. wtf
[2016-11-17 23:09:14] mjones : oshi bby keep pumping btc. i knew i could count on your double bottom
[2016-11-17 23:18:21] rapidtrades : doubt we'll drop much with Yuan at new lows
[2016-11-17 23:31:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 204 @ 740.05
[2016-11-17 23:35:30] lockhedge : is there a bug with realised pnl or did you change something @BitMEX? (it used to show pnl since the contract was listed)
[2016-11-17 23:37:08] BitMEX_Sam : lockhedge: This is intentional, we show PNL now since the contract was last zeroed
[2016-11-17 23:37:19] BitMEX_Sam : We have a summary of the change we're about to put out, I'll link it when finished
[2016-11-17 23:38:19] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: ok, np. does "zeroed" mean as soon as i have 0 open contracts it resets?
[2016-11-17 23:38:33] BitMEX_Sam : Right.
[2016-11-17 23:38:46] lockhedge : ok, thanks
[2016-11-17 23:42:43] rapidtrades : does trezor have the same deal every year? 2 for 1 on black monday?
[2016-11-17 23:42:56] mjones : cyber monday
[2016-11-17 23:43:12] rapidtrades : no bitcoin black money
[2016-11-17 23:43:37] rapidtrades : black friday...stop confusing me jones!
[2016-11-18 00:01:01] Dtrade16 : Guys how far do you look back on RSI?
[2016-11-18 00:01:07] Dtrade16 : A week?
[2016-11-18 00:01:58] rapidtrades : no....14 is the default
[2016-11-18 00:02:20] rapidtrades : 'a week' doesn't mean anything, depends on the timeframe
[2016-11-18 00:03:17] Dtrade16 : I mean if I'm trading and I want to know what the price is likely to be how far am I looking back?
[2016-11-18 00:03:22] Dtrade16 : 2 weeks?
[2016-11-18 00:04:05] rapidtrades : 14 periods
[2016-11-18 00:04:15] rapidtrades : so on daily chart, 14 days
[2016-11-18 00:05:17] Dtrade16 : bitnifex doesn't even have a 14 day period does it?
[2016-11-18 00:05:52] rapidtrades : 1. why are u on bitfinex 2. use tradingview charts if u want bitfinex data
[2016-11-18 00:07:50] Dtrade16 : I'm trading BFX
[2016-11-18 00:07:55] Dtrade16 : Not a lot of money
[2016-11-18 00:07:59] rapidtrades : BITFINEX:BTCUSD
[2016-11-18 00:08:00] Dtrade16 : And it's USD
[2016-11-18 00:08:03] Dtrade16 : yes
[2016-11-18 00:08:20] Dtrade16 : I'm also loaning USD on there
[2016-11-18 00:08:23] Dtrade16 : Not much
[2016-11-18 00:08:48] Dtrade16 : I don't see an RSI indicator on trading view
[2016-11-18 00:09:03] Dtrade16 : Do I have to purchase a subscription or something?
[2016-11-18 00:09:18] rapidtrades : Relative Strength Index, dummy
[2016-11-18 00:10:44] Dtrade16 : thx
[2016-11-18 00:12:14] rapidtrades : don't use it myself but 10 and 14 periods are the most used values
[2016-11-18 00:16:57] Dtrade16 : so go to top select 1 day chart then go to bottom and use the calendar tool thing to go back 10 or 14 days?
[2016-11-18 00:18:17] rapidtrades : no, when u apply the RSI to the chart the default value will be 14 period
[2016-11-18 00:18:23] rapidtrades : says 14,70,30
[2016-11-18 00:19:15] rapidtrades : u can then change those values by formatting it
[2016-11-18 00:19:52] Dtrade16 : Ok
[2016-11-18 00:20:58] Dtrade16 : so just select 1 day period select rsi indicator and that's it right?
[2016-11-18 00:21:32] Dtrade16 : thanks
[2016-11-18 00:23:27] Dtrade16 : what do you use btw?
[2016-11-18 00:25:34] rapidtrades : only indicator I use that's not a visual aid is moving average
[2016-11-18 00:38:28] amirmass : somthing is wrong with bitmex
[2016-11-18 00:38:46] amirmass : any mod here?
[2016-11-18 00:39:14] BitMEX_Sam : amirmass: What's up?
[2016-11-18 00:40:35] aethlios : btc spot in india 900 usd
[2016-11-18 00:41:18] aaa : lol
[2016-11-18 00:44:54] amirmass : BitMEX_Sam: can u check my last trades? i had avg long 755 ,and regrads and i was buying contracts and selling at higher prices, for example 737 to 739, but no profit showed up
[2016-11-18 00:46:12] BitMEX_Sam : amirmass: See your trade history at https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-18 00:46:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 650 @ 0.009548
[2016-11-18 00:46:45] BitMEX_Sam : You can see, for instance, that some of your recent sells were below your last buy. Regardless, there is often a difference between unrealised PNL & actual PNL, because unrealised is estimated based on Mark Price
[2016-11-18 00:47:06] amirmass : BitMEX_Sam: just one
[2016-11-18 00:47:11] BitMEX_Sam : Of course, in markets there is slippage, moving quotes, etc., so the profit you really get is often different than the estimations
[2016-11-18 00:47:12] amirmass : was that
[2016-11-18 00:47:14] amirmass : only one
[2016-11-18 00:54:46] BitMEX_Arthur : amirmass: The biggest reason why your expected profit may differ from actual reality is fees paid, I can see that on the majority of your recent orders you are paying the Taker fee, these fees will cause your realised profit to be lower than expected, we don't discuss account details on the public chat, so please submit a support ticket if you have further questions.
[2016-11-18 00:57:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 4000 @ 776.83
[2016-11-18 00:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1 @ 774.14 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-18 00:58:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2877 @ 733.90
[2016-11-18 00:58:47] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-11-18 00:58:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4498 @ 733.31
[2016-11-18 00:58:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 733.51
[2016-11-18 00:59:56] mjones : oh knows. will 5200 CNY not hold
[2016-11-18 01:13:29] theinvestmentguy : BitMEX_Arthur: can you answer my support tickets?
[2016-11-18 01:14:40] theinvestmentguy : question on Funding: does it change which sides get charged the fee? Or is it always the same side
[2016-11-18 01:16:51] BitMEX_Arthur : theinvestmentguy: The funding fee changes, on the order controls panel you can see the next funding fee to be charged, and the predicted rate after that, +ve means longs pay shorts, -ve means shorts pay longs
[2016-11-18 01:17:07] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.8796 (vs. yesterday at 6.8692)
[2016-11-18 01:17:58] theinvestmentguy : is their a funding fee on all 10 trade pairs?
[2016-11-18 01:20:15] BitMEX_Wally : theinvestmentguy: I have replied to your ticket
[2016-11-18 01:20:39] BitMEX_Wally : There is only a funding fee on swaps, which is just XBTUSD for now
[2016-11-18 01:20:53] theinvestmentguy : thank you
[2016-11-18 01:25:27] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: nice
[2016-11-18 02:00:28] amirmass : dump it
[2016-11-18 02:03:55] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Wally: any idea if you will reintroduce swap for alts in the future ?
[2016-11-18 02:04:07] sleger : they just removed them
[2016-11-18 02:07:18] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: just got back... are you still here?
[2016-11-18 02:08:24] AudibleScience : Is that Chrome bug a new bug with the latest version?
[2016-11-18 02:08:57] AudibleScience : I've not seen that before yesterday and today
[2016-11-18 02:09:50] AudibleScience : never mind, it's no big deal anyway...
[2016-11-18 02:22:02] Newmex : If I deleverage a xbtz16 position, is it possible to up the leverage again after if the price goes up?
[2016-11-18 02:22:13] Newmex : assuming i am long^
[2016-11-18 02:22:32] Newmex : and i deleveraged a bit to avoid margin call
[2016-11-18 02:22:33] sleger : yes if you have the available margin
[2016-11-18 02:23:00] Newmex : if i no longer have the available margin appearing for me then i wont be able to?
[2016-11-18 02:23:13] Newmex : at all?^
[2016-11-18 02:23:21] Newmex : just wanting to make sure
[2016-11-18 02:23:52] BitMEX_Wally : Newmex: In general you can always increase leverage of an existing position
[2016-11-18 02:24:36] Newmex : ok. well the 25x and 30x and 50x options dont show up anymore. is that because the more i increase my position the lower leverage is offered?
[2016-11-18 02:24:50] Newmex : sorry for all the questions, still new to this site
[2016-11-18 02:24:55] Newmex : hence the username :)
[2016-11-18 02:25:08] BitMEX_Wally : As your increase your risk limit some of the high leverage is no longer available
[2016-11-18 02:25:15] Newmex : oh ok that makes sense. thanks
[2016-11-18 02:26:24] sleger : best guesses of 0kcoin weekly settlement price in a few hours ?
[2016-11-18 02:29:15] sleger : not all at once please
[2016-11-18 02:29:44] j8 : china will diverge some more before settlement i bet
[2016-11-18 02:30:51] j8 : it's the only explanation for $6 premium with 6 hours to go
[2016-11-18 02:31:12] sleger : yes thats why i asked
[2016-11-18 02:31:29] sleger : doesnt make a lot of sense unless some move is planned
[2016-11-18 02:33:16] j8 : its happened before, we all shorted it and got screwed
[2016-11-18 02:34:21] sleger : actually pretty sure will happen again
[2016-11-18 02:34:31] sleger : pump will start in >2 hours
[2016-11-18 02:34:57] sleger : has to go up more than 6$ for getting screwed though
[2016-11-18 02:35:10] j8 : the futures premium is the bait
[2016-11-18 02:35:59] rapidtrades : j8: :)
[2016-11-18 02:36:04] sleger : bitvc future has 2 hours and 0 premium thats why i think they will wait 2 hours
[2016-11-18 02:36:17] j8 : i see
[2016-11-18 02:36:22] rapidtrades : i remember that....i shorted at $2-3 and it blew up to $6 or smth by close
[2016-11-18 02:36:34] rapidtrades : or was it 10-20
[2016-11-18 02:36:51] sleger : rapidtrades: you shorted at 3
[2016-11-18 02:36:58] sleger : oh no that was a long sorry
[2016-11-18 02:37:24] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-11-18 02:49:56] micmix : j8: ten more dollars to $1000 CAD, can't wait to be rich again ;-)
[2016-11-18 02:50:21] j8 : micmix: it sure makes the mental math easy
[2016-11-18 02:50:28] micmix : yep