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[2016-11-17 15:17:56] wurstgelee : stamp moved up .$.5
[2016-11-17 15:17:59] Apocalyptic : wow
[2016-11-17 15:18:02] Apocalyptic : are you sure ?
[2016-11-17 15:18:04] wurstgelee : almost a dollar now
[2016-11-17 15:18:07] wurstgelee : quite
[2016-11-17 15:18:16] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-17 15:22:06] anonymous789 : well i don't mind if it stays at this level forever with my short and this funding rate lol
[2016-11-17 15:22:21] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 15:22:37] wurstgelee : nvm, it went back down, almost the whole dollar....
[2016-11-17 15:22:48] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: :D
[2016-11-17 15:23:05] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: it's teasing you
[2016-11-17 15:23:26] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 15:24:14] arbitrage001 : premium for z16 is high
[2016-11-17 15:24:27] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-17 15:24:36] arbitrage001 : going to crash on 1st sign of trouble
[2016-11-17 15:26:41] sleger : its higher at 0kcoin
[2016-11-17 15:35:00] martinium : this could push to 772 to shake out shorts
[2016-11-17 15:35:04] martinium : then dump to shake out longs
[2016-11-17 15:35:49] Rado : or maybe it will shake out longs first
[2016-11-17 15:35:52] Rado : and then shorts
[2016-11-17 15:37:25] gielbier : sup mr wurst
[2016-11-17 15:38:18] wurstgelee : not much
[2016-11-17 15:38:25] wurstgelee : coffee break
[2016-11-17 15:38:37] wurstgelee : from my exhausting day at home ;)
[2016-11-17 15:38:39] gielbier : lol
[2016-11-17 15:39:04] gielbier : same here, except at work
[2016-11-17 15:43:29] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-17 15:44:10] wurstgelee : seriously tho, maybe we should call an ambulance for stamp?
[2016-11-17 15:44:13] wurstgelee : looks dead to me
[2016-11-17 15:44:58] gielbier : yeah indeed
[2016-11-17 15:45:10] rapidtrades : at least theyre not going down faking volume like finex
[2016-11-17 15:45:18] wurstgelee : 5300+
[2016-11-17 15:45:20] wurstgelee : stamp: 745
[2016-11-17 15:45:36] wurstgelee : 5200: stamp 745
[2016-11-17 15:45:38] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-17 15:46:21] gielbier : 2% isnt that much
[2016-11-17 15:46:35] wurstgelee : it should be $15
[2016-11-17 15:46:40] rapidtrades : ok is at 746 so its us/china issue not exchange issue
[2016-11-17 15:46:58] wurstgelee : probably
[2016-11-17 15:47:21] wurstgelee : it has to move at some point tho ;)
[2016-11-17 15:47:29] wurstgelee : theoretically
[2016-11-17 15:47:43] rapidtrades : allegedly that's how they skirt exchange controls
[2016-11-17 15:48:11] wurstgelee : 5320. stamp 745 ;)
[2016-11-17 15:48:13] wurstgelee : db
[2016-11-17 15:48:21] wurstgelee : 5320 - stamp 745
[2016-11-17 15:48:33] rapidtrades : use cny to buy bitcoin on chinese exchange , sell bitcoin on usd exchange for dollars
[2016-11-17 15:48:52] wurstgelee : no sells there tho
[2016-11-17 15:49:00] wurstgelee : otherwise it makes sense ofc
[2016-11-17 15:57:21] Apocalyptic : nobody has spare USD on stamp
[2016-11-17 15:57:39] Apocalyptic : hey rapid, how did Yellen do ?
[2016-11-17 15:58:25] rapidtrades : stronger dollar
[2016-11-17 15:59:30] wurstgelee : almost 6.9 again
[2016-11-17 15:59:34] wurstgelee : cny usd
[2016-11-17 15:59:59] Apocalyptic : crazy, China will probably devalue again
[2016-11-17 16:00:06] Rado : ETC bellow 0.0012
[2016-11-17 16:00:31] wurstgelee : Rado: thanks, to place some knife catchig orders ;)
[2016-11-17 16:00:33] rapidtrades : yeah this dollar move has been extraordinary
[2016-11-17 16:00:35] wurstgelee : *time
[2016-11-17 16:00:49] arbitrage001 : dollar can not keep going up
[2016-11-17 16:01:28] arbitrage001 : nobody can afford american productif it does
[2016-11-17 16:02:04] arbitrage001 : except american,
[2016-11-17 16:03:11] Apocalyptic : yeah
[2016-11-17 16:03:24] Apocalyptic : Janet's killing exports
[2016-11-17 16:03:45] Rado : It's a global game
[2016-11-17 16:03:52] Rado : they don't care about US
[2016-11-17 16:04:10] Rado : "they"
[2016-11-17 16:04:11] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-17 16:04:44] rapidtrades : i think the market is relieved she didn't try to jawbone the dollar lower
[2016-11-17 16:05:07] rapidtrades : looks like december is a lock now
[2016-11-17 16:06:07] Rado : rapidtrades: you want to bet on that?
[2016-11-17 16:06:18] rapidtrades : sure why not
[2016-11-17 16:06:32] Rado : I will bet yo a six pack
[2016-11-17 16:06:50] wurstgelee : so btc back to where we were 6h ago
[2016-11-17 16:07:09] Rado : what is your preferred beer?
[2016-11-17 16:08:19] rapidtrades : idk Heineken?
[2016-11-17 16:08:41] rapidtrades : it's been a while since I've drunk beer :)
[2016-11-17 16:08:53] wurstgelee : eeeek
[2016-11-17 16:08:56] wurstgelee : obviously
[2016-11-17 16:09:04] wurstgelee : heineken is piss not beer
[2016-11-17 16:09:05] Rado : what do you drink?
[2016-11-17 16:09:17] wurstgelee : everythink else but heineken ;)
[2016-11-17 16:09:36] wurstgelee : no, seriously, pils usually
[2016-11-17 16:09:46] rapidtrades : water, milk, yogurt, juice :)
[2016-11-17 16:09:47] wurstgelee : one of them - but by far not my favorite, being Beck's
[2016-11-17 16:09:53] Rado : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-17 16:10:12] Rado : wurstgelee: which country are you in?
[2016-11-17 16:10:20] wurstgelee : lolz stamp
[2016-11-17 16:10:21] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-17 16:10:23] wurstgelee : germany
[2016-11-17 16:10:34] wurstgelee : hours of nothing -> 747
[2016-11-17 16:10:36] Rado : I like Germany draft beer
[2016-11-17 16:10:42] rapidtrades : i don't handle alcohol well :)
[2016-11-17 16:10:46] Rado : I have a friend in Munich
[2016-11-17 16:11:08] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-17 16:11:27] bubbagoose : what did you say about heineken ?
[2016-11-17 16:11:39] bubbagoose : that is the gods nectar
[2016-11-17 16:11:42] rapidtrades : bubbagoose: he said it's poss
[2016-11-17 16:11:46] rapidtrades : piss
[2016-11-17 16:12:05] bubbagoose : I search for that genuine import everywhere in my country
[2016-11-17 16:12:19] bubbagoose : and becks
[2016-11-17 16:12:20] wurstgelee : heineken?
[2016-11-17 16:12:27] bubbagoose : and carlsberg
[2016-11-17 16:12:30] wurstgelee : its like making love in a canoe...
[2016-11-17 16:12:36] habibi : :D
[2016-11-17 16:12:38] wurstgelee : f*cking close to water
[2016-11-17 16:12:48] sleger : why would one drink beer when the french gave the world that marvelous gift that is champagne ???
[2016-11-17 16:13:01] rapidtrades : cos we're not chicks?
[2016-11-17 16:13:01] bubbagoose : lol you must be redneck hillbillys
[2016-11-17 16:13:08] wurstgelee : sleger: champagne is ok. i prefer spirits tho
[2016-11-17 16:13:11] wurstgelee : rum mostly
[2016-11-17 16:13:14] arbitrage001 : beer is a lot cheaper
[2016-11-17 16:13:25] arbitrage001 : and we dont like french
[2016-11-17 16:13:34] sleger : beer is for poor students
[2016-11-17 16:13:47] bubbagoose : lol wot
[2016-11-17 16:13:58] rapidtrades : problem with champagne is it doesn't feel like alcohol...easy to get wasted
[2016-11-17 16:14:07] bubbagoose : you animals would drink moose piss if it got you legless
[2016-11-17 16:14:13] sleger : and thats a problem why ? @rapidtrades
[2016-11-17 16:14:20] wurstgelee : i get acid reflux from champagne. after a bottle or 2
[2016-11-17 16:14:24] wurstgelee : sucks
[2016-11-17 16:14:29] sleger : true, acid is an issue
[2016-11-17 16:14:47] rapidtrades : yeah me too, that's why i avoid alcohol
[2016-11-17 16:14:56] rapidtrades : we're old lol
[2016-11-17 16:15:00] wurstgelee : drink less acidic alcohol
[2016-11-17 16:15:06] wurstgelee : like rum
[2016-11-17 16:15:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:15:16] bubbagoose : I had 1 guiness tonight but did not drink it all
[2016-11-17 16:15:30] sleger : guiness counts as eating not drinking
[2016-11-17 16:15:39] wurstgelee : tonight didnt even start yet but i'll prob have a glass of red
[2016-11-17 16:15:43] wurstgelee : *wine ofc
[2016-11-17 16:15:50] wurstgelee : or a bottle, no work tomorrow
[2016-11-17 16:16:02] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-17 16:16:05] rullwull : drink less alcohol, take more acid)))
[2016-11-17 16:16:20] wurstgelee : there are times for everything ;)
[2016-11-17 16:17:14] wurstgelee : okc quarterlies still pushing
[2016-11-17 16:17:26] themav : hi can someone help me with something. Why to "Set Sell Stop", is the Limit price higher than the stop price?
[2016-11-17 16:17:37] themav : i thought it shoudl be the other way around
[2016-11-17 16:17:55] themav : once we go below the stop price, we sell at up to limit priice
[2016-11-17 16:18:09] rapidtrades : themav: u mean stop limit?
[2016-11-17 16:18:19] themav : yes
[2016-11-17 16:18:23] wurstgelee : u can set it as u like
[2016-11-17 16:18:43] themav : if my limit price is below the stop price, my only option is "Set Buy Stop"
[2016-11-17 16:18:58] themav : this seems backwards to me
[2016-11-17 16:19:24] rapidtrades : themav: stop is the trigger price at which the order will 'go live' and limit is the price at which it still get executed
[2016-11-17 16:19:50] themav : right. So, if i am sillting, my stop should be higher than my limit
[2016-11-17 16:20:04] themav : i.e. if the price falls below the Stop, sell up to the Limit, no?
[2016-11-17 16:20:09] themav : am i thinking about this wrong?
[2016-11-17 16:20:10] bubbagoose : just heard about this Zclassic fork of Zcash making some moves
[2016-11-17 16:20:26] rapidtrades : if selling stop goes above limit yes
[2016-11-17 16:20:44] themav : that is not what this interface is letting me do
[2016-11-17 16:20:48] wurstgelee : bubbagoose: yes, down
[2016-11-17 16:20:49] bubbagoose : no slow start or founders reward and it has %10 zcash hash rate
[2016-11-17 16:20:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:21:17] wurstgelee : i was already down on c-cex, its down ever since listing @ trex
[2016-11-17 16:21:20] wurstgelee : *it
[2016-11-17 16:21:28] bubbagoose : doing the maths I think its perfectly valued where it is
[2016-11-17 16:21:54] themav : when my Limit price is higher than my Stop, my only option is "Set Sell Stop - again this seems backwards
[2016-11-17 16:22:07] themav : Support, help! :)
[2016-11-17 16:22:22] wurstgelee : bubbagoose: i am curious, how does that math look like?
[2016-11-17 16:22:47] rapidtrades : themav: trying to sell?
[2016-11-17 16:22:51] BitMEX_Wally : themav: What kind of order are you trying to set, a Stop Limit?
[2016-11-17 16:23:28] BitMEX_Wally : It is the Stop Price that determines if the Set Buy Stop or Set Sell Stop button is enabled
[2016-11-17 16:23:34] bubbagoose : wurstgelee: the % of hashrate to ZEC, daily inflation of 30k USD against 50k USD trade volume
[2016-11-17 16:24:09] wurstgelee : so it should go down way more....
[2016-11-17 16:24:10] bubbagoose : wurstgelee: once it holds this third wave down I think its going to take off on a nice bull run
[2016-11-17 16:24:33] wurstgelee : inflation morethan half the trading volume is a lot
[2016-11-17 16:24:40] Apocalyptic : bubbagoose: you mean you're hoping that someone here will pump it for you to sell, right ,
[2016-11-17 16:24:45] themav : @BitMEX_Wally, i am trying to set a sell stop limit
[2016-11-17 16:24:49] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: 8)
[2016-11-17 16:25:21] bubbagoose : Apocalyptic: yeah, get pump and put some air in the tires
[2016-11-17 16:25:24] themav : @BitMEX_Wally. oh thanks, i see
[2016-11-17 16:25:28] themav : great!
[2016-11-17 16:25:32] BitMEX_Wally : themav: Then you need to set a Stop Price that is below the current price, otherwise it would immediately trigger
[2016-11-17 16:25:53] themav : right
[2016-11-17 16:25:57] themav : i seee thanks so much
[2016-11-17 16:26:02] wurstgelee : bubbagoose: it made a new low. in this very second. ;)
[2016-11-17 16:26:10] bubbagoose : when it does bounce off this third wave it will get some attention
[2016-11-17 16:26:32] wurstgelee : haha. gl
[2016-11-17 16:26:35] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:27:15] bubbagoose : no luck. patience to buy and hold this one
[2016-11-17 16:27:32] bubbagoose : no rush for me to enter just yet
[2016-11-17 16:27:35] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: it seems to be crashing faster than ZEC even
[2016-11-17 16:27:41] Apocalyptic : that's something
[2016-11-17 16:27:47] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: yep ;)
[2016-11-17 16:27:58] wurstgelee : zec is closer to finding bottom tho, a lot
[2016-11-17 16:28:28] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: depends how you measure closer, in % value form current price or just the BTC delta :)
[2016-11-17 16:28:40] Apocalyptic : *from the current
[2016-11-17 16:29:02] arbitrage001 : bubbagoose: another zcash fanatic?
[2016-11-17 16:29:06] wurstgelee : delta. current value might easily drop 50% with some panic dump :)
[2016-11-17 16:29:09] arbitrage001 : welcome to the cult
[2016-11-17 16:29:19] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: zcash classic in his case :)
[2016-11-17 16:29:23] arbitrage001 : i am the proud owner of 45 zcash
[2016-11-17 16:29:30] wurstgelee : spot?
[2016-11-17 16:29:34] wurstgelee : or contracts?
[2016-11-17 16:29:38] arbitrage001 : contract lol
[2016-11-17 16:29:41] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 16:29:43] wurstgelee : 110
[2016-11-17 16:29:44] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-17 16:29:54] arbitrage001 : you got balls
[2016-11-17 16:30:03] arbitrage001 : since you had massive profit before
[2016-11-17 16:30:06] arbitrage001 : have
[2016-11-17 16:30:18] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: 110 @ 3 like rapid ?
[2016-11-17 16:30:26] Apocalyptic : I feel sorry for your loss
[2016-11-17 16:30:33] wurstgelee : i have less than 15% of those profits at risk...and only if it goes to 0 :)
[2016-11-17 16:30:38] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-17 16:30:46] arbitrage001 : i risk all of my profit lol
[2016-11-17 16:30:47] wurstgelee : current mark is pretty close to my entry
[2016-11-17 16:30:55] arbitrage001 : kind of regreting it now
[2016-11-17 16:31:02] wurstgelee : total upnl < -1 btc with 110 contracts ;)
[2016-11-17 16:31:12] arbitrage001 : but the buy price makes sense compare to market price
[2016-11-17 16:31:16] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-17 16:31:25] wurstgelee : very limited risk
[2016-11-17 16:31:50] wurstgelee : even if we settle @ .04 i'll get more than half back
[2016-11-17 16:33:06] wurstgelee : i am trying to add some @ .072 currently
[2016-11-17 16:33:08] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-17 16:33:28] arbitrage001 : should probably hold til dec
[2016-11-17 16:33:38] arbitrage001 : position is large enough
[2016-11-17 16:33:43] wurstgelee : yep. or dump if pump happens ;)
[2016-11-17 16:33:45] arbitrage001 : and will profit nicely if you are right
[2016-11-17 16:33:55] arbitrage001 : no point adding more risk
[2016-11-17 16:34:03] wurstgelee : i'll do great if we get a proper squeeze
[2016-11-17 16:34:09] wurstgelee : and i'll not die if we wont
[2016-11-17 16:34:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 16:42:15] wurstgelee : USD CHF parity :p
[2016-11-17 16:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2110 @ 745.79
[2016-11-17 16:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 744.45
[2016-11-17 16:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 750 @ 744.62
[2016-11-17 16:49:35] wurstgelee : lol wtf stamp...
[2016-11-17 16:49:38] wurstgelee : seriously
[2016-11-17 16:50:08] wurstgelee : $5 dump on 10 btc volume...
[2016-11-17 16:50:38] mjones : Lol no one trades on stamp
[2016-11-17 16:50:44] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-17 16:50:46] mjones : Horrible exchange to pick
[2016-11-17 16:50:48] wurstgelee : but our index is half stamp
[2016-11-17 16:50:49] arbitrage001 : think it will die soon
[2016-11-17 16:50:50] wurstgelee : :/
[2016-11-17 16:51:00] arbitrage001 : what is the volume on stamp?
[2016-11-17 16:51:06] wurstgelee : close to none
[2016-11-17 16:51:08] arbitrage001 : european trade on kraken?
[2016-11-17 16:51:18] lockhedge : 9200 btc on btcusd
[2016-11-17 16:51:21] wurstgelee : our index just dropped $3 because someone sold 10 btc on stamp....
[2016-11-17 16:51:21] arbitrage001 : or european dont know what btc is?
[2016-11-17 16:51:24] Apocalyptic : abyssimal
[2016-11-17 16:52:25] sleger : having bitstamp but not finex is pretty funny
[2016-11-17 16:52:29] habibi : yep, index should be definitely changed
[2016-11-17 16:52:43] wurstgelee : its a joke currently ;)
[2016-11-17 16:52:47] sleger : actually it is better like that, easy to make money of how dumb it is
[2016-11-17 16:53:02] arbitrage001 : sleger: sheeeh
[2016-11-17 16:53:06] wurstgelee : china moves 100 cny, stamp does nothing. china does nothing, stamp dumps $4
[2016-11-17 16:53:07] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-17 16:53:07] arbitrage001 : dont spill the bean
[2016-11-17 16:53:09] thomaskikansha : that depth on stamp
[2016-11-17 16:53:25] habibi : sleger: way easier using okc usd and stamp to mapiluate index, @night 20 btc buy on okc usd pushed price there up 6 dollars, stamp is pretty same liquidity
[2016-11-17 16:54:21] lockhedge : problem about bitstamp is mainly the spread (volume is higher than okc usd). could be solved by using a weighted mid price instead of last price for the index
[2016-11-17 16:54:42] wurstgelee : id like to trade contracts marked 50% hu0bi and 50% okc tbh
[2016-11-17 16:55:29] arbitrage001 : doesnt matter how the index is compose
[2016-11-17 16:55:43] arbitrage001 : someone will always figure out another way to game the system
[2016-11-17 16:56:16] wurstgelee : using a high volume index is cleary better than a low volume index, right?
[2016-11-17 16:56:22] habibi : what matters is u can gather from time to time few hundred btc position here and sell/buy few btc to move index for few dollars
[2016-11-17 16:56:25] arbitrage001 : of course
[2016-11-17 16:56:36] wurstgelee : habibi: that
[2016-11-17 16:57:15] arbitrage001 : but bitmex cant use any of the rmb exchange
[2016-11-17 16:57:23] arbitrage001 : since the currency is blocked
[2016-11-17 16:57:38] arbitrage001 : indexing using them would be meaningless
[2016-11-17 16:58:00] wurstgelee : we could trade XBTCNY here tho, right? ;)
[2016-11-17 16:58:25] lockhedge : habibi: that's why the index should follow a weighted mid price of the order books, not the last price
[2016-11-17 16:58:30] arbitrage001 : sound like bitmex is marketing toward the china audience
[2016-11-17 16:58:33] arbitrage001 : might eventually
[2016-11-17 17:00:25] j8 : arbitrage001: giving worldwide access to an isolated market is also an argument for doing it
[2016-11-17 17:01:10] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-17 17:03:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 550 @ 744.24
[2016-11-17 17:03:30] mjones : margin calling people again
[2016-11-17 17:05:56] wurstgelee : bought some
[2016-11-17 17:06:01] wurstgelee : good spot for a gamble ;)
[2016-11-17 17:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 345 @ 0.009214
[2016-11-17 17:29:46] y1uy : guys
[2016-11-17 17:29:50] y1uy : sell me some cheap btc
[2016-11-17 17:29:51] y1uy : :(
[2016-11-17 17:30:28] y1uy : https://i.imgflip.com/16umht.jpg
[2016-11-17 17:38:46] martinium : they really do need to change the index
[2016-11-17 17:39:03] martinium : bitstamp is low volume
[2016-11-17 17:39:09] martinium : as others here have already said
[2016-11-17 17:39:20] martinium : bitfinex needs to be added back as they are still around
[2016-11-17 17:40:06] sleger : that spike only brought us a 1% in funding fee, shame... doesnt make a lot of sense to be short the swap anymore here
[2016-11-17 17:40:27] martinium : I still don't get why pricing from GDAX isn't added. They serve US and Europe customers. Their volume matters
[2016-11-17 17:51:53] napoleon : why can't i just short future
[2016-11-17 17:51:56] napoleon : and long spot
[2016-11-17 17:51:57] napoleon : to make money
[2016-11-17 17:51:59] napoleon : plz explain
[2016-11-17 17:53:27] wurstgelee : why can't you place money on red and black? and always win?
[2016-11-17 17:53:36] wurstgelee : please explain
[2016-11-17 17:55:06] napoleon : seriously though
[2016-11-17 17:55:09] napoleon : sorry i am new
[2016-11-17 17:55:13] napoleon : still reading through everything
[2016-11-17 17:55:21] napoleon : is it accounted for in borrow cost on short future?
[2016-11-17 17:55:46] wurstgelee : there are no borrow costs but there is funding
[2016-11-17 17:56:00] wurstgelee : u dont trade actual coins here so u dont need to borrow
[2016-11-17 17:56:02] napoleon : does the funding fee account for the spread between future and spot
[2016-11-17 17:56:06] napoleon : got it
[2016-11-17 17:56:19] napoleon : so the funding rate accounts for the delta between spot and future
[2016-11-17 17:56:38] wurstgelee : funding is the tool of choice to push the market back to spot if we trade too high or too low here
[2016-11-17 17:57:19] wurstgelee : postive funding=longs pay, negative funding=shorts pay
[2016-11-17 17:57:31] wurstgelee : *i
[2016-11-17 17:57:44] napoleon : is this in a way just extension of interest parity?
[2016-11-17 17:57:50] napoleon : just for bitcoin?
[2016-11-17 17:58:23] wurstgelee : i dont understand your question
[2016-11-17 17:59:00] napoleon : sorry, i mean is the funding rate lead to existence of covered interest rate parity
[2016-11-17 17:59:20] napoleon : like what would generally happen with regular currencies
[2016-11-17 18:00:22] napoleon : actually wait think i understand, never mind
[2016-11-17 18:00:27] j8 : napoleon: yes the swap funding is supposed to reflect the floating difference in lending rates
[2016-11-17 18:01:18] martinium : j8: based on the index that only has 2 exchanges at present...
[2016-11-17 18:03:30] napoleon : ok so a potential trading strategy would be to mean revert the floating rate
[2016-11-17 18:04:01] wurstgelee : 5300 again
[2016-11-17 18:18:21] mjones : china orderbook is all fluff. can go either way with ease
[2016-11-17 18:18:54] wurstgelee : yep, closing everything atm =)
[2016-11-17 18:19:17] wurstgelee : well, almost. i'll keep a really small long
[2016-11-17 18:21:38] mjones : word. just chopping around the same price. just gonna wait it out
[2016-11-17 18:36:45] wurstgelee : so who is shorting zec here/closing longs? ;)
[2016-11-17 18:37:55] mjones : zec barely moves here. aint touching that
[2016-11-17 18:38:13] mjones : china dumping some more corn
[2016-11-17 18:39:26] habibi : yep china spot swings almost 9 dollars, no move here :(
[2016-11-17 18:39:37] wurstgelee : annoying
[2016-11-17 18:39:40] wurstgelee : fu stamp
[2016-11-17 18:41:55] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-17 18:41:59] wurstgelee : zec
[2016-11-17 18:42:05] wurstgelee : someone just flashed 700 orders
[2016-11-17 18:42:11] wurstgelee : sell side
[2016-11-17 18:42:56] zcashequalslambo : im going to jump in at 0.1 o nzec
[2016-11-17 18:43:01] zcashequalslambo : after rebound on polo
[2016-11-17 18:44:31] rapidtrades : f*ck ZEC that POS coin
[2016-11-17 18:45:17] mjones : someone flashed 700 ZEC sell wall on polo?
[2016-11-17 18:45:21] wurstgelee : here
[2016-11-17 18:45:25] mjones : o
[2016-11-17 18:45:26] wurstgelee : @ .07
[2016-11-17 18:45:41] mjones : that shitcoin doesnt even move on here.
[2016-11-17 18:46:19] wurstgelee : why would it?
[2016-11-17 18:46:33] wurstgelee : plenty of time till dec 30 and zec isnt moving much on polo iether
[2016-11-17 18:46:35] wurstgelee : *either
[2016-11-17 18:46:45] Apocalyptic : isn't moving much ?
[2016-11-17 18:46:52] Apocalyptic : it's dropping ~20%/day
[2016-11-17 18:46:55] wurstgelee : well its dumping...like all alts
[2016-11-17 18:46:55] Apocalyptic : every single day
[2016-11-17 18:47:12] mjones : zec is collapsing to match bitmex price i guess
[2016-11-17 18:47:18] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 18:47:20] mjones : if zec goes lower than here i wonder if bitmex follows
[2016-11-17 18:47:57] rapidtrades : ofc it's gonna follow
[2016-11-17 18:48:13] rapidtrades : it only follows it down here after capmex broke the market
[2016-11-17 18:48:22] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-17 18:48:27] wurstgelee : still salty
[2016-11-17 19:22:23] amirmass : btc 890$ on india
[2016-11-17 19:22:24] amirmass : moon time
[2016-11-17 19:23:52] sleger : OMG he is back
[2016-11-17 19:24:05] sleger : do you have children this time or not ?
[2016-11-17 19:24:13] Apocalyptic : amirmass: where can I see that?
[2016-11-17 19:24:29] amirmass : https://btcxindia.com/live-market/
[2016-11-17 19:30:01] Dtrade16 : Why such a premium on that exchange? Can't they get btc elsewhere?
[2016-11-17 19:30:19] martinium : they have to make money some how
[2016-11-17 19:30:24] martinium : bitcoin is rare in india
[2016-11-17 19:30:46] Apocalyptic : clearly not a frictionless market
[2016-11-17 19:31:56] Dtrade16 : Have we already priced this in?
[2016-11-17 19:32:04] Dtrade16 : The pump is over right?
[2016-11-17 19:33:08] arbitrage001 : india banned cash
[2016-11-17 19:33:17] arbitrage001 : 100 dollars bill
[2016-11-17 19:33:34] Dtrade16 : Yeah I heard
[2016-11-17 19:33:36] arbitrage001 : only way for criminal to deal now is use btc
[2016-11-17 19:33:45] Dtrade16 : How?
[2016-11-17 19:33:50] Dtrade16 : They can use other notes
[2016-11-17 19:34:02] Dtrade16 : and they can also exchange the notes
[2016-11-17 19:34:09] arbitrage001 : 500 M in cash? using 5 dollars bill?
[2016-11-17 19:34:46] Dtrade16 : What else are they going to do?
[2016-11-17 19:34:56] Dtrade16 : What can they buy w btc?
[2016-11-17 19:35:14] arbitrage001 : just saying india doing something stupid
[2016-11-17 19:35:32] arbitrage001 : to ban corruption, someone comeup with banning large note
[2016-11-17 19:36:09] Dtrade16 : Yah that's not the greatest plan
[2016-11-17 19:38:25] Rado : now they can use dimonds
[2016-11-17 19:38:42] arbitrage001 : diamond have no re-sell value
[2016-11-17 19:39:11] Rado : you are kidding right
[2016-11-17 19:39:17] arbitrage001 : i am not
[2016-11-17 19:39:23] mjones : india is actually creating new notes to replace the old
[2016-11-17 19:39:24] Rado : in North America you can sell it for the exact price you bought
[2016-11-17 19:39:43] arbitrage001 : are you sure?
[2016-11-17 19:39:44] mjones : but they won't be worth the same
[2016-11-17 19:39:51] mjones : that's what i read on the internet
[2016-11-17 19:41:23] AudibleScience : Sam, are you here?
[2016-11-17 19:43:14] AudibleScience : There is something really weird going on with the browser notifications appearing ages after the action that triggered it... like really a long time...
[2016-11-17 19:43:38] AudibleScience : I noticed this happening yesterday too.
[2016-11-17 19:45:48] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: Hi
[2016-11-17 19:46:06] BitMEX_Greg : What kind of delay are you seeing?
[2016-11-17 19:46:20] BitMEX_Greg : Do you mind sending us a support ticket? I will forward to Sam
[2016-11-17 19:46:29] AudibleScience : like massive man!
[2016-11-17 19:47:24] AudibleScience : I just saw one a moment ago for a 20k contract order that was in the book let me see exactly when for you...
[2016-11-17 19:47:52] BitMEX_Greg : Thanks, send us the info in a support ticket so we can get the info together
[2016-11-17 19:48:45] AudibleScience : It's not that much of a problem for me, but It could be very confusing, especially for new users.
[2016-11-17 19:49:44] BitMEX_Greg : I'll get sam to have a check when he's online
[2016-11-17 19:49:57] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: The order I just saw a notification for was actually in the book at 2016-11-17 17:29:31 my time... and it is now: 19:50 my time...
[2016-11-17 19:50:33] BitMEX_Greg : Odd
[2016-11-17 19:50:51] BitMEX_Greg : Thanks for the information
[2016-11-17 19:51:16] AudibleScience : No problem at all.
[2016-11-17 19:51:44] AudibleScience : Glad to help.
[2016-11-17 19:51:56] BitMEX_Greg : What version browser do you have btw?
[2016-11-17 19:53:05] AudibleScience : Chrome ver 54.0.2840.71 m
[2016-11-17 19:53:36] BitMEX_Greg : Cheers
[2016-11-17 19:59:49] BitMEX_Sam : Hey AudibleScience - that's actually a Chrome bug, at least in the iterations that I've seen it
[2016-11-17 20:00:11] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially if you keep notifications unacknowledged for a long time, or the browser/tab idle, it can do that
[2016-11-17 20:00:54] BitMEX_Sam : Were you active on the site and this notification just popped up way late, or were you idle/browsing other tabs then came back to it?
[2016-11-17 21:00:17] martinium : sleger: did you code your bots yourself?
[2016-11-17 21:01:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 490 @ 743.04
[2016-11-17 21:02:07] sleger : martinium: yes
[2016-11-17 21:30:18] qcqc : Let's say I short 1 BTC at 100x (100 BTC) with the 0.1242% interest rate. Does the interest rate apply on the 1 BTC or the 100 BTC ?
[2016-11-17 21:31:02] sleger : let's say 100btc
[2016-11-17 21:31:38] Zen Trader : The surge in bitcoin price was seen to be spurred by the influx of funds from Chinese investors as the government took fresh efforts to devalue the yuan.
[2016-11-17 21:36:16] QuantFocus : sleger: lol
[2016-11-17 21:39:53] mjones : 0kcoin settlement coming up. wonder if we'll get some movement.
[2016-11-17 21:40:42] mjones : xmr bouncing like crazy. anyone making money?
[2016-11-17 21:40:43] martinium : expect a drop
[2016-11-17 21:40:59] mjones : thinking drop too
[2016-11-17 21:41:24] mjones : waiting for usd to hit new highs before $800
[2016-11-17 21:41:35] martinium : sitting at this resistance
[2016-11-17 21:41:39] martinium : alllll dayyyyy
[2016-11-17 21:59:45] qcqc : How long do you have to hold a position to get the interest rates?
[2016-11-17 22:16:21] habibi : qcqc: at least 1 ms before funding
[2016-11-17 22:20:22] QuantFocus : starting to see some weakness in the quarterly
[2016-11-17 22:24:24] miramm1115 : $50 premium is still a lot
[2016-11-17 22:34:24] QuantFocus : miramm1115: agreed, but it's breaking down
[2016-11-17 22:40:30] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Arthur: another great read on the Digest this week
[2016-11-17 22:44:04] mjones : rofl xbtz16
[2016-11-17 22:44:12] mjones : new low so soon
[2016-11-17 22:44:24] miramm1115 : going to summon rekt
[2016-11-17 22:44:30] miramm1115 : rekt rekt rekt
[2016-11-17 22:44:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1498 @ 737.13
[2016-11-17 22:44:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1020 @ 736.70
[2016-11-17 22:44:59] miramm1115 : ^^^ it works!
[2016-11-17 22:45:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.013580
[2016-11-17 22:45:49] mjones : wish i was in a position but nope. now i wait
[2016-11-17 22:51:24] Rado : miramm1115: lol
[2016-11-17 22:55:54] QuantFocus : miramm1115: can you summon moar pls
[2016-11-17 22:56:41] mjones : lets see how many dip buyers bitfinex has
[2016-11-17 22:58:45] mjones : bitfinex possible bottom http://i.imgur.com/vKhR6XB.png
[2016-11-17 23:00:49] mjones : 0kcoin bottom http://i.imgur.com/GMAMPHt.png
[2016-11-17 23:03:09] Rado : mjones: nice charts
[2016-11-17 23:03:18] Rado : based on that I am loading up
[2016-11-17 23:03:19] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-17 23:03:31] mjones : lol watch btc fall over and die to 5000 cny and $700 now
[2016-11-17 23:08:36] mjones : looking up this recipe. calls for 1 pound of sugar. wtf
[2016-11-17 23:09:14] mjones : oshi bby keep pumping btc. i knew i could count on your double bottom
[2016-11-17 23:18:21] rapidtrades : doubt we'll drop much with Yuan at new lows
[2016-11-17 23:31:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 204 @ 740.05
[2016-11-17 23:35:30] lockhedge : is there a bug with realised pnl or did you change something @BitMEX? (it used to show pnl since the contract was listed)
[2016-11-17 23:37:08] BitMEX_Sam : lockhedge: This is intentional, we show PNL now since the contract was last zeroed
[2016-11-17 23:37:19] BitMEX_Sam : We have a summary of the change we're about to put out, I'll link it when finished
[2016-11-17 23:38:19] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: ok, np. does "zeroed" mean as soon as i have 0 open contracts it resets?
[2016-11-17 23:38:33] BitMEX_Sam : Right.
[2016-11-17 23:38:46] lockhedge : ok, thanks
[2016-11-17 23:42:43] rapidtrades : does trezor have the same deal every year? 2 for 1 on black monday?
[2016-11-17 23:42:56] mjones : cyber monday
[2016-11-17 23:43:12] rapidtrades : no bitcoin black money
[2016-11-17 23:43:37] rapidtrades : black friday...stop confusing me jones!
[2016-11-18 00:01:01] Dtrade16 : Guys how far do you look back on RSI?
[2016-11-18 00:01:07] Dtrade16 : A week?
[2016-11-18 00:01:58] rapidtrades : no....14 is the default
[2016-11-18 00:02:20] rapidtrades : 'a week' doesn't mean anything, depends on the timeframe
[2016-11-18 00:03:17] Dtrade16 : I mean if I'm trading and I want to know what the price is likely to be how far am I looking back?
[2016-11-18 00:03:22] Dtrade16 : 2 weeks?
[2016-11-18 00:04:05] rapidtrades : 14 periods
[2016-11-18 00:04:15] rapidtrades : so on daily chart, 14 days
[2016-11-18 00:05:17] Dtrade16 : bitnifex doesn't even have a 14 day period does it?
[2016-11-18 00:05:52] rapidtrades : 1. why are u on bitfinex 2. use tradingview charts if u want bitfinex data
[2016-11-18 00:07:50] Dtrade16 : I'm trading BFX
[2016-11-18 00:07:55] Dtrade16 : Not a lot of money
[2016-11-18 00:07:59] rapidtrades : BITFINEX:BTCUSD
[2016-11-18 00:08:00] Dtrade16 : And it's USD
[2016-11-18 00:08:03] Dtrade16 : yes
[2016-11-18 00:08:20] Dtrade16 : I'm also loaning USD on there
[2016-11-18 00:08:23] Dtrade16 : Not much
[2016-11-18 00:08:48] Dtrade16 : I don't see an RSI indicator on trading view
[2016-11-18 00:09:03] Dtrade16 : Do I have to purchase a subscription or something?
[2016-11-18 00:09:18] rapidtrades : Relative Strength Index, dummy
[2016-11-18 00:10:44] Dtrade16 : thx
[2016-11-18 00:12:14] rapidtrades : don't use it myself but 10 and 14 periods are the most used values
[2016-11-18 00:16:57] Dtrade16 : so go to top select 1 day chart then go to bottom and use the calendar tool thing to go back 10 or 14 days?
[2016-11-18 00:18:17] rapidtrades : no, when u apply the RSI to the chart the default value will be 14 period
[2016-11-18 00:18:23] rapidtrades : says 14,70,30
[2016-11-18 00:19:15] rapidtrades : u can then change those values by formatting it
[2016-11-18 00:19:52] Dtrade16 : Ok
[2016-11-18 00:20:58] Dtrade16 : so just select 1 day period select rsi indicator and that's it right?
[2016-11-18 00:21:32] Dtrade16 : thanks
[2016-11-18 00:23:27] Dtrade16 : what do you use btw?
[2016-11-18 00:25:34] rapidtrades : only indicator I use that's not a visual aid is moving average
[2016-11-18 00:38:28] amirmass : somthing is wrong with bitmex
[2016-11-18 00:38:46] amirmass : any mod here?
[2016-11-18 00:39:14] BitMEX_Sam : amirmass: What's up?
[2016-11-18 00:40:35] aethlios : btc spot in india 900 usd
[2016-11-18 00:41:18] aaa : lol
[2016-11-18 00:44:54] amirmass : BitMEX_Sam: can u check my last trades? i had avg long 755 ,and regrads and i was buying contracts and selling at higher prices, for example 737 to 739, but no profit showed up
[2016-11-18 00:46:12] BitMEX_Sam : amirmass: See your trade history at https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-18 00:46:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 650 @ 0.009548
[2016-11-18 00:46:45] BitMEX_Sam : You can see, for instance, that some of your recent sells were below your last buy. Regardless, there is often a difference between unrealised PNL & actual PNL, because unrealised is estimated based on Mark Price
[2016-11-18 00:47:06] amirmass : BitMEX_Sam: just one
[2016-11-18 00:47:11] BitMEX_Sam : Of course, in markets there is slippage, moving quotes, etc., so the profit you really get is often different than the estimations
[2016-11-18 00:47:12] amirmass : was that
[2016-11-18 00:47:14] amirmass : only one