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[2016-11-17 11:20:10] wurstgelee : imo
[2016-11-17 11:20:10] arbitrage001 : i use star alignment for my trades
[2016-11-17 11:20:13] anonymous789 : maybe in crypto it means nothing
[2016-11-17 11:20:16] elmorte : Should've gone with my gut 7hrs ago...
[2016-11-17 11:20:17] wurstgelee : this pump is irrational.
[2016-11-17 11:20:28] elmorte : Would be up 9000 CNY atm
[2016-11-17 11:20:35] wurstgelee : a lot more psychology, hype and news than technicals
[2016-11-17 11:20:53] wurstgelee : so gut feeling and experience works very well here. =)
[2016-11-17 11:21:01] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: really though? BTC has had a whole lot of nothing for like nearly 2 years lol
[2016-11-17 11:21:18] anonymous789 : news-wise
[2016-11-17 11:21:34] DareDevil : ouch for this dump
[2016-11-17 11:21:43] wurstgelee : news dont have to be media-related...
[2016-11-17 11:21:50] anonymous789 : that's the only reason i'm even trading technically on btc, because there is a whole lot of nothing going on, so this is not investors in the markets, this is speculators i feel
[2016-11-17 11:21:58] wurstgelee : segwit was a news for example. bitcoin xt, bitcoin unlimited, eth fork and such
[2016-11-17 11:22:12] anonymous789 : but we've known about all that stuff for years
[2016-11-17 11:22:12] wurstgelee : and rumours.
[2016-11-17 11:22:23] wurstgelee : yeah, we do. market still reacts to it
[2016-11-17 11:22:25] wurstgelee : a lot
[2016-11-17 11:22:26] arbitrage001 : i wish the pump last at least a week
[2016-11-17 11:22:41] arbitrage001 : so i can keep getting funding for a week
[2016-11-17 11:22:50] arbitrage001 : it last less than 24 hours?
[2016-11-17 11:22:50] wurstgelee : like that absurd "china will ban btc outflow" terminal screenshot
[2016-11-17 11:23:00] anonymous789 : i wonder if i should close this trade before the ridiculous funding rate hits my account lol
[2016-11-17 11:23:18] wurstgelee : anonymous789: surely a thing to consider :p
[2016-11-17 11:23:21] arbitrage001 : anonymous789: it is too late to close long anyway
[2016-11-17 11:23:28] anonymous789 : iit hurts my heart lol
[2016-11-17 11:23:33] arbitrage001 : short should close since the discount is higher than funding
[2016-11-17 11:24:43] ytaews : next funding will be >30bps too though
[2016-11-17 11:24:57] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-17 11:25:03] wurstgelee : how is finex higher than pre-correction now?
[2016-11-17 11:25:06] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-17 11:25:12] wurstgelee : or at least same level
[2016-11-17 11:25:21] wurstgelee : *stamp
[2016-11-17 11:25:21] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: cuz premium here is irrational
[2016-11-17 11:25:34] arbitrage001 : bound to happen when MM takes premium into account
[2016-11-17 11:25:36] wurstgelee : no, stamp is same level, china is 50 cny lower
[2016-11-17 11:25:38] wurstgelee : thats my point
[2016-11-17 11:25:46] arbitrage001 : china effect then
[2016-11-17 11:25:58] arbitrage001 : the rest of the exchanges will dump too
[2016-11-17 11:26:00] arbitrage001 : just lagging
[2016-11-17 11:26:18] wurstgelee : stamp went down as the dump happened
[2016-11-17 11:26:22] wurstgelee : but bounced back up
[2016-11-17 11:26:44] wurstgelee : 749->732->748
[2016-11-17 11:27:59] wurstgelee : more?
[2016-11-17 11:28:31] CapitalGains : I closed most and reopened higher
[2016-11-17 11:29:24] CapitalGains : If only swap would ditch the discount before funding
[2016-11-17 11:29:33] DareDevil : dump over already? Seems a little high still
[2016-11-17 11:31:16] anonymous789 : DareDevil: massive support at 740, dump will continue if it breaks this support
[2016-11-17 11:31:27] wurstgelee : the dump didnt happen on bitstamp ;)
[2016-11-17 11:31:38] arbitrage001 : or finex
[2016-11-17 11:31:48] arbitrage001 : pure funding avoidance dump
[2016-11-17 11:32:03] RoftheN : Will Dubai have influence on Bitcoin?
[2016-11-17 11:32:04] anonymous789 : i'm gonna eat the funding rate :(
[2016-11-17 11:32:08] DareDevil : lets see where this brings us
[2016-11-17 11:32:25] CapitalGains : As a shorter, I'll take funding or funding avoidance dumps - both are equally welcome
[2016-11-17 11:32:27] elmorte : It's China that fell
[2016-11-17 11:32:43] elmorte : hence the futures dump
[2016-11-17 11:32:47] elmorte : which has no funding
[2016-11-17 11:33:02] DareDevil : finex also dumped a bit
[2016-11-17 11:34:03] arbitrage001 : DareDevil: wont called 3 dollar drop a dump
[2016-11-17 11:34:17] DareDevil : 10 dollar
[2016-11-17 11:34:36] DareDevil : 756 - 746
[2016-11-17 11:34:49] DareDevil : tot 742 is very thin
[2016-11-17 11:34:52] arbitrage001 : i was watching the price there and here
[2016-11-17 11:35:07] arbitrage001 : a few mins before dump here
[2016-11-17 11:35:51] DareDevil : 714 - 750 pump will not hold too long anyways
[2016-11-17 11:36:11] DareDevil : there we go
[2016-11-17 11:36:13] arbitrage001 : dumping still continue
[2016-11-17 11:36:19] arbitrage001 : now finex is following
[2016-11-17 11:36:39] meh : wurstgelee: no my short makes sense :p 8-)
[2016-11-17 11:36:50] wurstgelee : meh: :D :D :D
[2016-11-17 11:36:50] meh : now*
[2016-11-17 11:37:03] arbitrage001 : was shorting big before the pump
[2016-11-17 11:37:10] arbitrage001 : spent so much money on anal cream
[2016-11-17 11:37:12] DareDevil : meh: if 740 breaks it sure will :P
[2016-11-17 11:37:14] wurstgelee : buying alt blood on polo here and there...
[2016-11-17 11:37:16] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 11:37:37] DareDevil : there we go...
[2016-11-17 11:37:37] cryptologe : now it's getting ugly and US is still asleep
[2016-11-17 11:37:54] DareDevil : 40% of 740 already gone
[2016-11-17 11:37:55] arbitrage001 : shorted a lot more right before the dump lol
[2016-11-17 11:38:02] DareDevil : arbitrage001: good going :)
[2016-11-17 11:38:05] arbitrage001 : will close partially around 700
[2016-11-17 11:38:06] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-17 11:38:14] DareDevil : I'm long...but not on BTC :P
[2016-11-17 11:38:39] meh : haha u guys are hilarious
[2016-11-17 11:39:13] wurstgelee : yep, we are a bunch of entertaining chimps
[2016-11-17 11:39:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2000 @ 777.64
[2016-11-17 11:40:37] DareDevil : lots of Long on BTC buying now here...
[2016-11-17 11:41:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1400 @ 776.22
[2016-11-17 11:41:19] wurstgelee : 2 early imo
[2016-11-17 11:41:25] DareDevil : I know right
[2016-11-17 11:41:32] DareDevil : I'm waiting for sub 730
[2016-11-17 11:41:33] wurstgelee : *subject to change any minute
[2016-11-17 11:41:44] DareDevil : 736 however has some good support
[2016-11-17 11:42:01] anonymous789 : i feel confirmation of the downtrend is in i've set a limit close at 743
[2016-11-17 11:42:29] wurstgelee : closed my short tho
[2016-11-17 11:42:32] meh : mh my short target is high 5XX$
[2016-11-17 11:42:39] DareDevil : lol
[2016-11-17 11:42:41] meh : 2-3 months i guess
[2016-11-17 11:43:25] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: hehe
[2016-11-17 11:43:42] DareDevil : wurstgelee: so you where closing on 739 huh :P
[2016-11-17 11:44:10] wurstgelee : DareDevil: yep. only a small one ;)
[2016-11-17 11:44:14] wurstgelee : didnt get more fills :/
[2016-11-17 11:44:15] meh : might be just perfect ultra-short-term h
[2016-11-17 11:44:26] wurstgelee : but i fomo longed xbtusd just now :p
[2016-11-17 11:44:33] meh : x)
[2016-11-17 11:44:51] meh : @wurst "dreiländereck"
[2016-11-17 11:44:59] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 11:44:59] meh : ?
[2016-11-17 11:45:03] wurstgelee : nope, hamburg
[2016-11-17 11:45:22] meh : ^^ kühl & kalt :D
[2016-11-17 11:45:41] meh : mensch & wetter
[2016-11-17 11:45:47] wurstgelee : ja, letzte woche war sogar scheisskalt. momentan gehts
[2016-11-17 11:45:59] wurstgelee : menschen eigentlich nicht wirklich...die sind nur "anders"
[2016-11-17 11:46:04] meh : hahaha
[2016-11-17 11:46:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 11:46:16] meh : gute leute imo :D
[2016-11-17 11:46:21] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-17 11:46:23] meh : rau und ehrlich x
[2016-11-17 11:46:30] meh : ^^
[2016-11-17 11:46:33] wurstgelee : joa. ist was dran an dem klischee
[2016-11-17 11:46:52] wurstgelee : yay for fomo-long btw
[2016-11-17 11:47:32] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: why not open long after funding?
[2016-11-17 11:48:15] JamesPolo : Long pays short receives in 12 mins ?
[2016-11-17 11:48:22] ytaews : ya
[2016-11-17 11:48:28] wurstgelee : entry seemed suitable despite funding. ;) i am gambling atm, not trading. i know this is bad, but this is what works best for me in current pump situation. so high-lev trades decided within seconds ;)
[2016-11-17 11:48:29] JamesPolo : Yay
[2016-11-17 11:48:59] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Trading is just the "denial" term for gambling with BTC now.
[2016-11-17 11:49:44] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: its probably playing chess with a clock compared to usual chess atm ;)
[2016-11-17 11:49:51] JamesPolo : Wtf is this bitfinex gap lol
[2016-11-17 11:50:03] CapitalGains : Great analogy
[2016-11-17 11:50:19] wurstgelee : the only one i could come up with right now ;)
[2016-11-17 11:51:06] Boontjie : what happened
[2016-11-17 11:51:12] wurstgelee : since when?
[2016-11-17 11:51:49] Boontjie : I see no moon
[2016-11-17 11:52:22] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: interesting so you're looking to do the opposite of me lol
[2016-11-17 11:52:23] wurstgelee : its there, behind the clouds that ust appearewd
[2016-11-17 11:52:40] wurstgelee : anonymous789: right now? yes, the complete opposite :P
[2016-11-17 11:53:04] wurstgelee : like fomo-shorting xmr the second btc makes a move up for example
[2016-11-17 11:53:07] anonymous789 : how about we hedge each other, i'll send you some profits if i become 'in the money' and you send me some profits if you become 'in the money' haaha
[2016-11-17 11:53:09] CapitalGains : Sometimes with a friend we open opposite positions with a hidden order between the spread, synchronised. So it's actually a deal between the two of us.
[2016-11-17 11:53:10] wurstgelee : which repeatedly worked great btw
[2016-11-17 11:53:20] anonymous789 : :D
[2016-11-17 11:54:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 11:54:47] wurstgelee : soooo...more doom or back up?
[2016-11-17 11:55:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 740.58
[2016-11-17 11:55:24] anonymous789 : i'll be looking to short if my limit close gets filled
[2016-11-17 11:55:28] arbitrage001 : make money either way
[2016-11-17 11:55:31] anonymous789 : short to around the 725 level
[2016-11-17 11:55:37] arbitrage001 : good funding or price drop
[2016-11-17 11:55:42] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: sitting here with trigger finger resady... ;)
[2016-11-17 11:55:43] arbitrage001 : totally hedged
[2016-11-17 11:55:52] wurstgelee : *-s
[2016-11-17 11:57:02] wurstgelee : zec is doing quite well here btw
[2016-11-17 11:57:17] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: dont agree
[2016-11-17 11:57:22] arbitrage001 : 0.1263
[2016-11-17 11:57:23] wurstgelee : why not?
[2016-11-17 11:57:32] wurstgelee : its not moving down while it went down on polo a lot
[2016-11-17 11:57:45] wurstgelee : like all alts did
[2016-11-17 11:57:50] wurstgelee : i like that ;)
[2016-11-17 11:57:51] arbitrage001 : need spot price to go up
[2016-11-17 11:58:03] arbitrage001 : like to get out without loss on expire date
[2016-11-17 11:58:08] wurstgelee : it will at some point (earlier than dec 30) :p
[2016-11-17 11:58:18] arbitrage001 : hard to tell
[2016-11-17 11:58:24] arbitrage001 : everyone is gambling
[2016-11-17 11:58:27] wurstgelee : unless btc pumps forever
[2016-11-17 11:58:37] arbitrage001 : whale will need more than 2 months to accumulate at low price
[2016-11-17 11:58:49] wurstgelee : in that case it will be a loss. but i would be fine with that if we pump that long ;)
[2016-11-17 11:59:27] wurstgelee : funding incoming
[2016-11-17 11:59:35] anonymous789 : funding rate messing up my strategy, cancelled my limit close now might as well hold lol
[2016-11-17 12:00:01] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 12:00:18] anonymous789 : and we're up
[2016-11-17 12:00:18] arbitrage001 : now, swap will go back up
[2016-11-17 12:00:20] anonymous789 : instantly
[2016-11-17 12:00:27] anonymous789 : which is why i cancelled lmao
[2016-11-17 12:00:37] wurstgelee : yep :D
[2016-11-17 12:00:42] arbitrage001 : and funding fee is chepar than discount
[2016-11-17 12:00:44] anonymous789 : stupid funding rate
[2016-11-17 12:00:48] wurstgelee : and why i opened that long a few minutes to funding ;)
[2016-11-17 12:00:54] anonymous789 : there is WAY too much support at the 740 level
[2016-11-17 12:01:15] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: good move
[2016-11-17 12:01:38] wurstgelee : added some
[2016-11-17 12:01:55] anonymous789 : maybe now we see the 750 break
[2016-11-17 12:02:15] wurstgelee : my body is ready
[2016-11-17 12:02:22] l3f : the fuck was that
[2016-11-17 12:02:28] wurstgelee : l3f: funding
[2016-11-17 12:04:02] l3f : why the dump
[2016-11-17 12:04:30] l3f : my condolences to anyone that was liquidated
[2016-11-17 12:05:07] anonymous789 : well needed correction imo
[2016-11-17 12:05:45] anonymous789 : new higher low for btc on the hourly
[2016-11-17 12:05:48] l3f : 6 dollar gap on bitstamp
[2016-11-17 12:05:54] l3f : spread*
[2016-11-17 12:08:05] DareDevil : I'm glad I closed my ETH long now
[2016-11-17 12:10:37] anonymous789 : interesting really you could kinda scalp the funding rate on bitmex if it's high
[2016-11-17 12:10:39] wurstgelee : educated fomo-longing wins again! \o(
[2016-11-17 12:10:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 12:11:12] anonymous789 : like you went long just before funding rate hit, easy 6-7 dollar profit in a second lol
[2016-11-17 12:11:48] wurstgelee : a 739-entry was just too tempting ;)
[2016-11-17 12:12:01] anonymous789 : within seconds it was at 744 lol
[2016-11-17 12:12:11] anonymous789 : so yea i'd eat the funding rate for that
[2016-11-17 12:12:15] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-17 12:12:44] anonymous789 : if you do that at ridiculously high leverage every 8 hours wonder if that would be a good way to make money haha
[2016-11-17 12:13:03] wurstgelee : never tried
[2016-11-17 12:13:40] anonymous789 : i'm gonna monitor it for the next few days see if it is definitely a thing, could have been a fluke this time around because the rate was so high
[2016-11-17 12:14:08] wurstgelee : it usually isnt that great of an opportunity imo. dump and funding came close this time, thats why
[2016-11-17 12:14:10] CapitalGains : anonymous789: I did the opposite. I shorted a lot just before funding and bought back the millisecond it went through, at quite a profit.
[2016-11-17 12:14:33] anonymous789 : CapitalGains: ouch
[2016-11-17 12:14:36] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: that works :)
[2016-11-17 12:14:42] anonymous789 : hehe
[2016-11-17 12:14:44] wurstgelee : i tried that once
[2016-11-17 12:14:57] wurstgelee : it works for all the shorts u manage to close cheap
[2016-11-17 12:15:09] wurstgelee : the others are ~ breakeven so overall win
[2016-11-17 12:15:28] wurstgelee : if u close immediately after funding
[2016-11-17 12:15:45] wurstgelee : works with longs too if funding is negative
[2016-11-17 12:16:08] CapitalGains : It worked for me because there was a tight spread
[2016-11-17 12:16:17] anonymous789 : aah]
[2016-11-17 12:18:28] wurstgelee : go buttcoin \o/
[2016-11-17 12:20:31] Jason7189 : Who put up that stupid sell wall?
[2016-11-17 12:20:35] wurstgelee : dunno
[2016-11-17 12:20:50] wurstgelee : watching.....
[2016-11-17 12:21:30] wurstgelee : not so sure its a stupid wall tbh
[2016-11-17 12:23:40] wurstgelee : closed my long, this smells like downwards again
[2016-11-17 12:26:17] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: nice quick profit :P
[2016-11-17 12:26:28] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-17 12:26:48] anonymous789 : higher low on the hourly signals upwards for me so once again we're doing the opposite lol
[2016-11-17 12:26:49] wurstgelee : those sell walls .... :D
[2016-11-17 12:27:00] anonymous789 : hehe
[2016-11-17 12:27:14] wurstgelee : anonymous789: i might reenter any minute.... ;)
[2016-11-17 12:27:14] anonymous789 : look at the buy wall thoguh
[2016-11-17 12:27:18] anonymous789 : haha
[2016-11-17 12:27:30] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-17 12:27:44] anonymous789 : well i'm afk now
[2016-11-17 12:27:47] wurstgelee : going down for now tho...
[2016-11-17 12:27:50] wurstgelee : cya ;)
[2016-11-17 12:28:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 744.81
[2016-11-17 12:42:56] Jason7189 : Price of BTC is so low on here ATM, elsewhere its $749
[2016-11-17 12:42:57] rapidtrades : Dollar finally taking a step back today
[2016-11-17 12:43:39] rapidtrades : no 'elsewhere' it's $746 as you can see from the index
[2016-11-17 12:44:25] Jason7189 : That was before you looked
[2016-11-17 12:47:27] rapidtrades : funding easing up too, only 0.31% next time
[2016-11-17 12:47:31] rapidtrades : the fomo has died
[2016-11-17 12:47:40] rapidtrades : let's see what Yellen says in 13 mins
[2016-11-17 12:51:11] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: what ? Yellen testifies in 2 hours
[2016-11-17 12:52:19] mjones : guess that $774 megarekt wall was worth longing into
[2016-11-17 12:53:15] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: statement released in 7 mins though
[2016-11-17 12:54:42] wurstgelee : and the fomo returned
[2016-11-17 12:54:50] wurstgelee : a bit ;)
[2016-11-17 12:55:55] Apocalyptic : should have kept that long eh
[2016-11-17 12:56:21] JamesPolo : Apocalyptic: Always
[2016-11-17 12:57:46] rapidtrades : ALWAYS????
[2016-11-17 12:57:53] rapidtrades : how about after mtgox?
[2016-11-17 12:58:50] wurstgelee : xmr, the short that keeps on giving.... ;)
[2016-11-17 12:58:51] JamesPolo : Nearly always
[2016-11-17 12:58:56] JamesPolo : doubt half of us were trading back then anyway
[2016-11-17 12:59:18] rapidtrades : We hit a low of 160 at the start of 2015 bro
[2016-11-17 12:59:33] JamesPolo : rapidtrades: lies
[2016-11-17 12:59:44] wurstgelee : i was
[2016-11-17 12:59:50] wurstgelee : back then
[2016-11-17 12:59:59] wurstgelee : not that long ago ;)
[2016-11-17 13:05:27] rapidtrades : small Dollar weakening post-statement
[2016-11-17 13:05:37] rapidtrades : maybe the Q&A will be more exciting :)
[2016-11-17 13:07:18] rapidtrades : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/yellen-says-fed-interest-rate-hike-could-come-relatively-soon
[2016-11-17 13:07:31] Rado : my short closed right before the funding
[2016-11-17 13:07:43] rapidtrades : why
[2016-11-17 13:07:55] Rado : because I had a limit buy
[2016-11-17 13:08:11] Rado : made 3x more than the funding anyway
[2016-11-17 13:08:25] rapidtrades : but u missed the funding
[2016-11-17 13:08:28] Rado : yeah
[2016-11-17 13:08:35] rapidtrades : HAHA
[2016-11-17 13:08:49] JamesPolo : ??
[2016-11-17 13:08:58] Rado : there is always the next funding
[2016-11-17 13:08:59] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-17 13:09:38] rapidtrades : 0.31% don't feed the kids
[2016-11-17 13:09:45] Rado : lol
[2016-11-17 13:10:23] Rado : ‘Relatively Soon’
[2016-11-17 13:10:38] Rado : who teh fuck believes this shit
[2016-11-17 13:10:45] lockhedge : "if incoming data provide some further evidence of continued progress toward the Committee’s objectives"
[2016-11-17 13:10:47] Apocalyptic : the market, apparently
[2016-11-17 13:12:53] Rado : can I bet somewhere that there will be no rate hike?
[2016-11-17 13:13:09] Rado : I want 1 to 9 odds
[2016-11-17 13:13:18] Rado : will put 1 BTC
[2016-11-17 13:13:22] rapidtrades : fed rate futures
[2016-11-17 13:13:41] Apocalyptic : Rado: or simply long EURUSD
[2016-11-17 13:14:01] Rado : nah
[2016-11-17 13:14:18] Rado : that is not guaranteed
[2016-11-17 13:14:20] Apocalyptic : why ? you think Mario gonna mess it up ?
[2016-11-17 13:14:52] Rado : rapidtrades: fed rate futures with BTC somewhere?
[2016-11-17 13:15:08] rapidtrades : doubt it :)
[2016-11-17 13:16:29] Rado : rapidtrades: what do you think about a bot: reversal to the mean
[2016-11-17 13:18:46] j8 : https://www.fairlay.com/market/us-federal-reserve-to-lift-the-rate-in-2016/
[2016-11-17 13:20:06] laisee : Rado: which mean?
[2016-11-17 13:20:48] wurstgelee : wellcome back sell wall
[2016-11-17 13:20:52] wurstgelee : *-l
[2016-11-17 13:20:54] Rado : 20 average or something
[2016-11-17 13:21:12] Rado : j8: I don't get the odds on this site
[2016-11-17 13:21:37] j8 : yeah i find it pretty confusing too, never used it
[2016-11-17 13:22:33] j8 : that one's not the best either cause it's barely traded
[2016-11-17 13:23:02] Rado : yeah
[2016-11-17 13:25:26] rapidtrades : https://www.fairlay.com/market/time-person-of-the-year/
[2016-11-17 13:27:39] JamesPolo : These finex buys
[2016-11-17 13:32:55] Rado : when is the FED meeting?
[2016-11-17 13:34:39] Rado : December 13-14
[2016-11-17 13:44:09] Rado : BTC already made new high against Argentinian peso :-)
[2016-11-17 13:44:10] Rado : https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&q=1 BTC to ARS
[2016-11-17 13:59:16] shery : hello guys i am new here what does this xbt means?
[2016-11-17 13:59:24] meh : btc ^^
[2016-11-17 14:09:29] BitMEX_Greg : shery: Hi, XBT is the unofficial ISO currency code for Bitcoin
[2016-11-17 14:12:44] sleger : you should use the official one then, BTC
[2016-11-17 14:13:23] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-17 14:14:13] wurstgelee : zec market here is almost ripe for a short squeeze
[2016-11-17 14:15:03] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: That isn't official, since it violates some ISO rule since codes beginning with BT refer to Bhutan
[2016-11-17 14:15:32] wurstgelee : rename Bitcoin to Bhutancoin
[2016-11-17 14:15:35] wurstgelee : problem solved
[2016-11-17 14:15:39] sleger : makes sense
[2016-11-17 14:15:42] BitMEX_Greg : haha
[2016-11-17 14:16:31] Rado : lol
[2016-11-17 14:17:11] wurstgelee : so..everyone waiting for btc to come down to 640 again?
[2016-11-17 14:17:17] wurstgelee : 740 ofc
[2016-11-17 14:17:37] BitMEX_Greg : 640 would be nice
[2016-11-17 14:18:08] wurstgelee : yeah, would be ok for me. i already went a little blood shopping @ polo
[2016-11-17 14:18:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 14:19:14] Rado : as I said yesterday consolidation until west prices are within $10 of China
[2016-11-17 14:19:29] Rado : spread was $40 at one point
[2016-11-17 14:21:25] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah interesting move
[2016-11-17 14:21:54] BitMEX_Greg : Anyone confirm the rumours on that whaleclub 500k bitcoin buy?
[2016-11-17 14:22:09] BitMEX_Greg : or someone just forgot to add the "$" in front?
[2016-11-17 14:22:39] wurstgelee : dunno, would be interested in the answer too
[2016-11-17 14:26:10] sleger : what is it. that someone bought btc500k ?
[2016-11-17 14:26:56] wurstgelee : 500k btc, yep
[2016-11-17 14:27:26] sleger : and where did that buy happen ?
[2016-11-17 14:27:43] j8 : it for sure didn't happen
[2016-11-17 14:27:57] wurstgelee : i dont think so either tbh
[2016-11-17 14:28:00] sleger : exactly, where can you buy that much....
[2016-11-17 14:28:48] j8 : at first i thought someone was quoting fake china volume, but there wasn't even enough of that on one exchange
[2016-11-17 14:29:17] wurstgelee : who would buy 500k on a single day anyways?
[2016-11-17 14:32:36] meh : if, then $
[2016-11-17 14:34:51] sleger : that's about 750 times less ...
[2016-11-17 14:35:48] meh : well no shit dr watson its 500k$ or 500k*priceBTC hahaha ^^
[2016-11-17 14:36:24] j8 : or 500,000 yuan
[2016-11-17 14:41:25] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: went short at 743 lol
[2016-11-17 14:41:35] wurstgelee : u?
[2016-11-17 14:41:37] anonymous789 : yeah
[2016-11-17 14:41:41] wurstgelee : oh :)
[2016-11-17 14:41:51] anonymous789 : it's really struggling at 750
[2016-11-17 14:41:56] wurstgelee : it is
[2016-11-17 14:42:09] wurstgelee : thats y i am in popcorn mode atm
[2016-11-17 14:42:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 14:42:15] anonymous789 : sometimes price action is the best indicator lol
[2016-11-17 14:42:22] anonymous789 : :P
[2016-11-17 14:42:32] wurstgelee : oh lol. wrong
[2016-11-17 14:42:36] wurstgelee : i forgot...long xbtusd :P
[2016-11-17 14:42:46] anonymous789 : yea i thought you had a long lol
[2016-11-17 14:43:11] wurstgelee : and also xmr short. just in that second
[2016-11-17 14:43:24] anonymous789 : aah lol
[2016-11-17 14:43:44] wurstgelee : you bought it? :D
[2016-11-17 14:43:55] anonymous789 : oh nah i'm only trading btc lol
[2016-11-17 14:44:09] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 14:44:16] sleger : anonymous789: do you finish all your chat lines by lol ?
[2016-11-17 14:44:30] anonymous789 : sleger: yea i'm a millenial
[2016-11-17 14:44:59] sleger : you gonna cry for hours once you get rekt then
[2016-11-17 14:45:00] BitMEX_Sam : lol
[2016-11-17 14:45:05] anonymous789 : :D
[2016-11-17 14:45:24] wurstgelee : dont cut yourself
[2016-11-17 14:45:33] anonymous789 : :(
[2016-11-17 14:46:06] arbitrage001 : how does millinial do these days?
[2016-11-17 14:46:13] zanza : millenials 2spooky4me
[2016-11-17 14:46:14] anonymous789 : struggle
[2016-11-17 14:46:22] arbitrage001 : have luck finding good career?
[2016-11-17 14:46:29] arbitrage001 : or circle jerking on btc?
[2016-11-17 14:46:32] anonymous789 : lucky i'm a programmer
[2016-11-17 14:46:33] zanza : get in massive college debt
[2016-11-17 14:46:41] anonymous789 : i work for oracl
[2016-11-17 14:46:43] anonymous789 : oracle
[2016-11-17 14:46:46] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-11-17 14:46:51] arbitrage001 : the pay is good?
[2016-11-17 14:46:55] anonymous789 : not great
[2016-11-17 14:46:58] anonymous789 : benefits good
[2016-11-17 14:47:12] arbitrage001 : thought all coders job are don by monkeys these days
[2016-11-17 14:47:20] arbitrage001 : i mean chinese, indian
[2016-11-17 14:47:24] wurstgelee : i have to work with your dbs sometimes
[2016-11-17 14:47:58] wurstgelee : there have ben days where i wanted to kick the guy that programmed lsnrctrl
[2016-11-17 14:48:02] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-17 14:48:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 14:48:24] arbitrage001 : cant blame the quality of work produced by monkey
[2016-11-17 14:48:42] anonymous789 : i work for oracle retail i have no idea about their middleware
[2016-11-17 14:49:03] anonymous789 : arbitrage001: racist much?
[2016-11-17 14:49:24] arbitrage001 : anonymous789: just a joke
[2016-11-17 14:49:29] anonymous789 : okay
[2016-11-17 14:49:38] wurstgelee : "we sell databases" - "what does it do?" - "it databases"
[2016-11-17 14:49:40] wurstgelee : any salesmanager
[2016-11-17 14:49:40] sleger : it's not like they would understand it anyway
[2016-11-17 14:49:51] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: yeah lol
[2016-11-17 14:50:35] wurstgelee : bitcoin playing along so far
[2016-11-17 14:50:43] wurstgelee : with my forgotten long
[2016-11-17 14:50:45] arbitrage001 : the dump recovery was quick
[2016-11-17 14:50:53] arbitrage001 : have some bones
[2016-11-17 14:50:59] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-17 14:51:40] wurstgelee : stamp dgaf
[2016-11-17 14:52:28] Apocalyptic : stamp has anemic volume these days
[2016-11-17 14:52:34] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-17 14:52:43] wurstgelee : i only watch it because its half the index here
[2016-11-17 14:52:49] arbitrage001 : always thought stamp will die first before finex
[2016-11-17 14:52:51] Apocalyptic : come to think about it pretty much since their hack
[2016-11-17 14:52:58] arbitrage001 : guess i might be wrong
[2016-11-17 14:53:03] Apocalyptic : they lost quite a market share
[2016-11-17 14:53:20] Rado : Stamp is second to Bitfinex
[2016-11-17 14:53:21] arbitrage001 : mainly compete for same customer base with kraken
[2016-11-17 14:53:26] Rado : I would say they are doing good
[2016-11-17 14:53:29] wurstgelee : stamp is lagging a lot behind china
[2016-11-17 14:53:38] wurstgelee : makes it rather easy to predict the index here
[2016-11-17 14:53:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-17 14:53:41] Apocalyptic : Rado: they used to do a lot better
[2016-11-17 14:53:52] Apocalyptic : in the 2013/2014 days
[2016-11-17 14:53:55] arbitrage001 : finex situated itself with china and west
[2016-11-17 14:53:58] Rado : Apocalyptic: of course when there were no other exchanges
[2016-11-17 14:54:05] arbitrage001 : so people put up with lame platform
[2016-11-17 14:58:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 48 @ 0.008990
[2016-11-17 15:01:43] wurstgelee : anonymous789: i am wondering, why did u short 743? if 740 is support?
[2016-11-17 15:02:07] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: lower highs and lower lows suggests to me it will break the 740 support before it breaks the 750 resistance
[2016-11-17 15:02:13] anonymous789 : at least on the hourly
[2016-11-17 15:02:31] wurstgelee : ah ok
[2016-11-17 15:02:55] arbitrage001 : you based your observation on what data set?
[2016-11-17 15:02:56] anonymous789 : this isn't a "long" position for me, i intend to hold this only until about 720-730 range
[2016-11-17 15:03:02] wurstgelee : meanwhile index still sitting at 745 here
[2016-11-17 15:03:02] arbitrage001 : how long history?
[2016-11-17 15:03:11] wurstgelee : because stamp just doesnt move
[2016-11-17 15:03:21] anonymous789 : arbitrage001: just chart analysis
[2016-11-17 15:03:32] anonymous789 : volume is increasing on the sell side too
[2016-11-17 15:03:36] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: should probably ignore stamp or btc-e
[2016-11-17 15:03:39] anonymous789 : RSI are slightly overbought too
[2016-11-17 15:03:46] anonymous789 : on the hourly
[2016-11-17 15:03:46] arbitrage001 : most actions are on finex and china exchanges
[2016-11-17 15:03:47] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: its half of the index here, still?
[2016-11-17 15:04:04] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: make it to your advantage
[2016-11-17 15:04:12] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: i do :)
[2016-11-17 15:04:26] anonymous789 : MACD on the hourly also looks bearing
[2016-11-17 15:04:30] anonymous789 : bearish*
[2016-11-17 15:04:36] wurstgelee : its funny how much stamp ignores china, thats all
[2016-11-17 15:04:45] anonymous789 : that's it really, if it breaks 750 and gets to around 760 i'll probably close at loss
[2016-11-17 15:04:52] Apocalyptic : anonymous789: RSI can stay overbought for a long, long time
[2016-11-17 15:05:13] anonymous789 : Apocalyptic: yes RSI is just one of the indicators i use for confirming my trades
[2016-11-17 15:05:14] wurstgelee : 5290. stamp still 744
[2016-11-17 15:05:20] wurstgelee : oops
[2016-11-17 15:05:23] wurstgelee : 5290
[2016-11-17 15:05:37] Apocalyptic : anonymous789: ok, but what does that tell you exactly ?
[2016-11-17 15:05:38] anonymous789 : we're also below the SMA on the bollinger bands on the hourly
[2016-11-17 15:06:34] anonymous789 : Apocalyptic: tbh at this level the RSI on the hourly is not saying much, however on the daily it's telling me there is more upside
[2016-11-17 15:06:51] anonymous789 : so i don't intend to hold this short for along time if it does become 'in the money'
[2016-11-17 15:07:15] wurstgelee : its too risky imo....given the reward and the risk
[2016-11-17 15:07:38] wurstgelee : if it breaks 740 ok....but not above it
[2016-11-17 15:07:39] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-17 15:07:52] anonymous789 : also on a longer timescale this could be a double top at 750
[2016-11-17 15:08:26] anonymous789 : and if it is a double top i expect some significant correction and i'm planning to close my position between 720-730
[2016-11-17 15:08:49] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: stamp hates you it seems
[2016-11-17 15:08:50] Rado : anonymous789: he he
[2016-11-17 15:08:57] anonymous789 : Rado: :)
[2016-11-17 15:08:57] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: yes
[2016-11-17 15:09:00] Rado : we do have the same style of trading
[2016-11-17 15:09:17] anonymous789 : Rado: hehe
[2016-11-17 15:09:27] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: stamp decided its 744/745 all day
[2016-11-17 15:09:30] wurstgelee : with a small exception
[2016-11-17 15:09:34] wurstgelee : (that dump)
[2016-11-17 15:09:48] Rado : wurstgelee: get ready for the next dump
[2016-11-17 15:10:00] arbitrage001 : Rado: it will dump soon?
[2016-11-17 15:10:07] arbitrage001 : or should i buy more anal cream
[2016-11-17 15:10:08] wurstgelee : always ready for everything
[2016-11-17 15:10:10] anonymous789 : btw that dump wasn't engulfed in the following bullish candlestick which suggests downward sentiment too
[2016-11-17 15:10:24] Rado : I think so
[2016-11-17 15:10:32] Apocalyptic : such wisdom @anonymous789, how long have you been trading ?
[2016-11-17 15:10:51] anonymous789 : Apocalyptic: i've been gambling for >5 years, trading for about 2 weeks haha
[2016-11-17 15:11:01] wurstgelee : i just farted and it sounded like the horns of jericho. thats pretty bullish imo
[2016-11-17 15:11:10] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: :D
[2016-11-17 15:11:16] arbitrage001 : anonymous789: you know the odd of trader survaving rate?
[2016-11-17 15:11:24] anonymous789 : yes 10%
[2016-11-17 15:11:27] arbitrage001 : surviving rate
[2016-11-17 15:11:31] arbitrage001 : less probably
[2016-11-17 15:11:33] wurstgelee : after how many years?
[2016-11-17 15:11:44] arbitrage001 : and most of the 10% make less than mcdonald
[2016-11-17 15:12:03] wurstgelee : oh, full time trader?
[2016-11-17 15:12:14] anonymous789 : i'm not a full time trader
[2016-11-17 15:12:22] arbitrage001 : oh right
[2016-11-17 15:12:25] wurstgelee : me neither
[2016-11-17 15:12:30] arbitrage001 : you work for oracle
[2016-11-17 15:12:32] anonymous789 : yeah
[2016-11-17 15:12:34] anonymous789 : i'm a programmer
[2016-11-17 15:13:36] anonymous789 : i lost a lot of money trading indices, but crypto is much easier than proper financial markets
[2016-11-17 15:15:11] arbitrage001 : dont totally agree here
[2016-11-17 15:15:47] arbitrage001 : only horders from the early days make big bucks
[2016-11-17 15:15:49] wurstgelee : never traded anything else than crypto ;)
[2016-11-17 15:16:56] anonymous789 : crypto markets react generally how you'd expect them to react to certain events
[2016-11-17 15:17:17] martinium : it cant seem to get past this resistance
[2016-11-17 15:17:18] anonymous789 : financial markets, however, donald trump gets elected, they dump 5% and then bounce all the way to ATHs like wtf?
[2016-11-17 15:17:19] martinium : comical
[2016-11-17 15:17:49] wurstgelee : LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD!
[2016-11-17 15:17:55] martinium : if it fails will be a huge dump
[2016-11-17 15:17:56] wurstgelee : stamp moved up .$.5
[2016-11-17 15:17:59] Apocalyptic : wow
[2016-11-17 15:18:02] Apocalyptic : are you sure ?
[2016-11-17 15:18:04] wurstgelee : almost a dollar now