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[2016-11-16 23:08:13] anonymous789 : Rekted: not yet, we need to see >750 sustained with volume ^^
[2016-11-16 23:12:42] Rekted : chart 30 min look fine
[2016-11-16 23:13:56] miramm1115 : didn't expect swap premium to get so high, I should allow for larger shorts here
[2016-11-16 23:16:59] mjones : if this dumps you can thank me for closing my short
[2016-11-16 23:17:49] mjones : then if i reshort it'll go up
[2016-11-16 23:19:27] jung1 : on huobi appers 850btc sell order for a moment
[2016-11-16 23:28:22] jung1 : what a fight
[2016-11-16 23:28:55] Tetsuo : U ALL BETTER FOMO BUY WITH 2 OR MORE HANDS BEFORE IT´S TOO LATE! CHEAP COINS WON´T LAST FOREVER!
[2016-11-16 23:30:34] jung1 : funny fact: ltc is all time low
[2016-11-16 23:30:36] jung1 : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltcbtc
[2016-11-16 23:30:56] mjones : it was lower but bitcoinwisdom doesnt go back that far. plus ltc was like a penny back then so it doesnt really matter
[2016-11-16 23:31:15] jung1 : but $ is stronger now
[2016-11-16 23:31:20] mjones : all that matters is ltc holders long term = horrible decision
[2016-11-16 23:33:59] Tetsuo : they won´t keep a great coin down forever
[2016-11-16 23:34:50] mjones : ltc hashrate going up
[2016-11-16 23:35:10] Tetsuo : once it starts pumping , no hostages will be made
[2016-11-16 23:35:14] jung1 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCCNY/kpkSVmYX-BTCCNY/
[2016-11-16 23:35:19] jung1 : 3rd wave?
[2016-11-16 23:35:33] jung1 : <random lines on chart mode on>
[2016-11-16 23:35:36] mjones : yeah. 20x long ltc on 0kcoin quarterly. cant long ltc/btc here. get adl in a second
[2016-11-16 23:36:57] mjones : 15 minutes bbands tight. last time it happened btc pumped
[2016-11-16 23:45:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.008985
[2016-11-16 23:50:37] mjones : xmr nice bounce 0.0081 to 0.009
[2016-11-16 23:51:36] Tetsuo : 0.006x soon
[2016-11-16 23:55:55] Tetsuo : Stamp has a nice 400BTC ask wall to test the market
[2016-11-17 00:07:35] rapidtrades : lol swapers exiting before funding? or ppl shorting to capture it
[2016-11-17 00:08:14] rapidtrades : holy crap zec at 12 cents
[2016-11-17 00:08:24] miramm1115 : still 4 hours to funding, lots of time
[2016-11-17 00:08:36] mjones : zec hits new lows and zec here goes 0.059 to 0.069
[2016-11-17 00:08:57] rapidtrades : well it's about time god damit
[2016-11-17 00:09:18] rapidtrades : u didn't expect the 66% discount to last forever?
[2016-11-17 00:09:40] miramm1115 : my bot made 0.003 btc on ZEC today from long :smile:
[2016-11-17 00:25:15] laisee : miramm1115: give the bot a holiday :-)
[2016-11-17 00:36:40] rapidtrades : WHERE THT PREMIUM
[2016-11-17 00:37:54] mjones : i'm waiting for a direction to be picked so i can fomo long or short
[2016-11-17 00:39:18] miramm1115 : laisee: I let it play with 20 ZEC for fun. Or should I say 'let her play' bc I'm sure it's a she :smile: She is unpredictable and wastes money on weird stuff like ZEC ;-)
[2016-11-17 00:59:50] mjones : shit should i have bought that dip
[2016-11-17 01:00:22] iefken : the only way is up, baby
[2016-11-17 01:00:30] iefken : isnt that a song or something
[2016-11-17 01:06:05] mjones : dang. couple more days till 16,000,000 BTC. only 5,000,000 to go
[2016-11-17 01:06:38] mjones : 2,288,616 will be mined till the next block half
[2016-11-17 01:06:52] mjones : lol if you're not in before the next block half. gg
[2016-11-17 01:27:05] zanza : sweet funding rate coming up guys
[2016-11-17 01:27:56] rapidtrades : mmmm
[2016-11-17 01:35:39] chromaticcr1 : lol @iefken martin garrix
[2016-11-17 01:40:31] mjones : bitfinex finding more buyers
[2016-11-17 01:41:12] mjones : $7 away from the next high and $42 away from 2016 high
[2016-11-17 01:41:52] rapidtrades : BUY ZEC
[2016-11-17 01:43:35] mjones : i dont think zec will ever move on this site again
[2016-11-17 01:44:19] rapidtrades : ZEC SHALL RISE AGAIN
[2016-11-17 01:48:44] XXXX : ZEC pump not possible for at least 6 months. It has to go around $15-20 first for an eventual pump to $100.
[2016-11-17 01:50:57] l3f : ffs I closed my long too early
[2016-11-17 01:50:59] l3f : top fucking kek
[2016-11-17 01:52:55] mjones : been trying to figure out when to get back in a long in case this goes towards 6000 CNY
[2016-11-17 01:53:49] Rado : 735
[2016-11-17 01:56:52] mjones : rekt bot doesnt people everything
[2016-11-17 01:56:58] mjones : doesnt post everything
[2016-11-17 01:57:06] Rado : I am short short nice 750
[2016-11-17 01:57:21] Rado : hopefully I can collect some funding
[2016-11-17 01:57:27] mjones : not bad
[2016-11-17 01:57:44] Rado : unless there is another push
[2016-11-17 01:58:10] Rado : I will love it if BTC doesn't move in the next 10 hours
[2016-11-17 01:58:15] Rado : :)
[2016-11-17 01:58:33] mjones : could very well go sideways for a bit
[2016-11-17 01:58:42] Rado : It should
[2016-11-17 01:58:51] Rado : also might dip a bit
[2016-11-17 01:58:59] Rado : that will be the best case for me
[2016-11-17 01:59:16] Rado : still have Dec 30 longs as well
[2016-11-17 01:59:29] Rado : playing both sides at the moment
[2016-11-17 01:59:59] mjones : price is the same as it was 7 hours ago now
[2016-11-17 02:01:53] Rado : Bitstamp is under 740, but okcoin needs to fall a bit
[2016-11-17 02:03:39] theinvestmentguy : how do you close an open "long" position?
[2016-11-17 02:05:10] BigDaddyBigDick : if you scroll to the side of the page where it shows your positions, itll have the option for you to either market close or limit close
[2016-11-17 02:05:54] theinvestmentguy : I see where it says "your position:"
[2016-11-17 02:06:05] theinvestmentguy : but dont see that option to close
[2016-11-17 02:06:06] Rado : War on Cash intensifies: Citibank to stop accepting cash at some branches
[2016-11-17 02:06:43] Rado : theinvestmentguy: you can enter a limit order to sell
[2016-11-17 02:07:38] theinvestmentguy : ok selling closed the position.
[2016-11-17 02:07:56] theinvestmentguy : thanks
[2016-11-17 02:08:17] theinvestmentguy : if I had multiple positions I would like to be able to select and close a particular one though
[2016-11-17 02:08:58] iefken : just buy the ones you cant to close then at the price you want
[2016-11-17 02:09:04] mjones : someone dumped a bit on okcoin
[2016-11-17 02:10:03] mjones : i drew some lines and say this breaks up or down within 3 hours
[2016-11-17 02:10:45] mjones : i'm gonna short some saying down will be most likely. lets see
[2016-11-17 02:11:07] Rado : mjones: do it :)
[2016-11-17 02:11:08] mjones : let me get some of that funding too
[2016-11-17 02:11:20] mjones : okay i'm ready. dump your corns now
[2016-11-17 02:14:47] viptrader : it's long time
[2016-11-17 02:15:17] mjones : in b4 i get rekt cause i shorted a bullrun
[2016-11-17 02:16:35] mjones : go figure. looked like it'll break down and dip buyers step in
[2016-11-17 02:16:52] viptrader : im long
[2016-11-17 02:16:58] viptrader : moon in the corer
[2016-11-17 02:17:04] viptrader : corner
[2016-11-17 02:17:23] BigDaddyBigDick : btd seems to be the go to right now. I did open a long as well in the last 15mins
[2016-11-17 02:18:00] mjones : well if this doesnt go down i'll cut my loses and fomo long
[2016-11-17 02:18:41] Rado : Now is not the time to go long
[2016-11-17 02:18:59] Rado : it was at 700-710 or 715
[2016-11-17 02:19:20] sleger : never to late to go long
[2016-11-17 02:19:25] BigDaddyBigDick : the trend is your friend
[2016-11-17 02:19:27] sleger : you guys werent born in 2013
[2016-11-17 02:19:30] BigDaddyBigDick : until it isint
[2016-11-17 02:19:34] mjones : the orderbook is so much fluff it can go either way till someone steps in
[2016-11-17 02:20:11] mjones : never 2 late to long. better now than $820
[2016-11-17 02:20:28] mjones : but if price goes down before it goes up then rekt on high leverage.
[2016-11-17 02:21:43] BigDaddyBigDick : the stability of the move so far has me impressed, even with the bear divs its tried playing out. Dip buyers just keep stepping up... for now anyways.
[2016-11-17 02:24:48] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/LaAFzOxI/
[2016-11-17 02:25:04] aethlios : epic break out daily candle approaching??
[2016-11-17 02:27:13] Rado : Nice chart
[2016-11-17 02:30:11] Rado : China is $40 higher
[2016-11-17 02:30:30] Rado : this spread will go down before another push imo
[2016-11-17 02:35:51] Jason7189 : www.tradingview.com/chart/nNUlQ8xc/
[2016-11-17 02:36:07] Jason7189 : Breakout within the next hour IMO.
[2016-11-17 02:36:18] Jason7189 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/nNUlQ8xc/
[2016-11-17 02:40:51] mjones : well lesson today is dont short xbtz16. it'll jump $6 when okcoin goes up $2
[2016-11-17 02:41:46] l3f : I had 40k entry on ZECZ16 with 730 entry
[2016-11-17 02:41:56] l3f : and I closed too fucking early
[2016-11-17 02:41:56] l3f : fml
[2016-11-17 02:42:04] l3f : should have waited a day
[2016-11-17 02:42:18] l3f : 40k entry @ 730
[2016-11-17 02:43:03] sleger : l3f: kind of like that one ?
[2016-11-17 02:43:04] sleger : XBTUSD -344249 462.5089 XBT 718.06
[2016-11-17 02:43:30] sleger : sorry meant that one :D XBTZ16 184346 231.4704 XBT 726.85
[2016-11-17 02:43:53] Newmex : if i close an xbt perpetual swap position before the funding rate in 1 hour for example, do i get to skip out on the fee?
[2016-11-17 02:44:07] sleger : unless you meant ZEC... in which case buying at 730 is a never seen before
[2016-11-17 02:44:15] sleger : Newmex: yes no fee
[2016-11-17 02:44:22] l3f : sleger: I mean XBT
[2016-11-17 02:44:22] l3f : derp
[2016-11-17 02:44:31] Newmex : ok ty
[2016-11-17 02:50:15] Newmex : and xbtz16 has no fees at all?
[2016-11-17 02:53:02] sleger : Newmex: why would you think that ?
[2016-11-17 02:53:27] elmorte : Usual maker/taker fees. Funding is just for swaps
[2016-11-17 02:53:32] sleger : Newmex: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-11-17 02:53:39] Newmex : well xbtusd says the funding rate is 0.375%...
[2016-11-17 02:53:52] Newmex : xbtz16 doesn't have an absurd fee like that it seems
[2016-11-17 02:54:19] mjones : right
[2016-11-17 02:54:23] mjones : xbtz16 = ftw
[2016-11-17 02:54:37] Newmex : wow. no kidding
[2016-11-17 02:54:45] Newmex : what the hell am i doing on perpetual swap...lol
[2016-11-17 02:54:51] mjones : once 0kcoin quarterly price gets so high it's hitting its limit and no one else can open a long they will all come to bitmex
[2016-11-17 02:55:12] sleger : paying fee duh
[2016-11-17 02:56:14] mjones : hmm i have question for bitmex. when will the next 100x xbtz16 open?
[2016-11-17 02:56:34] mjones : 2 weeks before the old one closes?
[2016-11-17 02:58:42] elmorte : That's just rude, old one's not even dead yet
[2016-11-17 02:59:20] sleger : yeah and who needs to roll a position....
[2016-11-17 02:59:59] sleger : someone trying to sell a lot of swap now
[2016-11-17 03:00:07] sleger : 200k orders coming on and off
[2016-11-17 03:01:08] Newmex : i mean i feel scammed lol so obv im going to sell all my swaps
[2016-11-17 03:01:09] sleger : 440k order
[2016-11-17 03:01:13] Newmex : if i can just do quarterlies for no fee
[2016-11-17 03:01:33] Newmex : not going to pay a huge fee if i can avoid it :P ?
[2016-11-17 03:01:38] sleger : Newmex: maybe (just maybe) that's why they dont trade at the same price...
[2016-11-17 03:01:58] Guest74016 : sleger: such insight
[2016-11-17 03:02:27] Tetsuo : 600k order , nice
[2016-11-17 03:03:21] iefken : doesnt he need to pay fee for that?
[2016-11-17 03:04:05] elmorte : Not the funding fee if he closes within the hour
[2016-11-17 03:04:06] Newmex : someone in here said if you sell your swaps before the funding rate is taken you dont need to pay the absurd fee
[2016-11-17 03:04:27] Jason7189 : BTC weekly futures trading at a 2% premium with settlement in roughly 30 Hours.
[2016-11-17 03:05:05] sleger : Newmex: yes i said that
[2016-11-17 03:05:43] Newmex : well thanks for that...much appreciated
[2016-11-17 03:05:45] Newmex : wish i knew this sooner
[2016-11-17 03:05:48] Rado : swap under the index price now
[2016-11-17 03:05:59] jose : Jason7189: where ?
[2016-11-17 03:06:08] sleger : Rado: BearMEX
[2016-11-17 03:06:24] Rado : because of the funding
[2016-11-17 03:06:34] Rado : under an hour now
[2016-11-17 03:06:58] sleger : funding never stops, happy to buy here, despite funding
[2016-11-17 03:07:09] Newmex : the funding rate was under 0.1% this morning
[2016-11-17 03:07:16] Newmex : how did it just jump to nearly 0.4% now?
[2016-11-17 03:07:24] Newmex : because everyone is long or what
[2016-11-17 03:07:28] Jason7189 : Okcoin I think.
[2016-11-17 03:07:29] Rado : Newmex: yep
[2016-11-17 03:07:34] jose : Newmex: rtfm
[2016-11-17 03:07:38] Newmex : wow...
[2016-11-17 03:08:33] elmorte : It changes every 8 hours...and what jose said
[2016-11-17 03:09:38] Newmex : idk about that..i think i will prefer to just trade the xbtz from now on.
[2016-11-17 03:10:16] jose : XBTUSD is for day trading
[2016-11-17 03:10:43] Newmex : oh ok. im looking to hold positions longer term..so i guess that's where i went wrong
[2016-11-17 03:10:45] Newmex : now i know :) thx
[2016-11-17 03:14:27] theinvestmentguy : what is commission cost on trades?
[2016-11-17 03:15:11] theinvestmentguy : found it, n.m.
[2016-11-17 03:19:21] mjones : Okcoin lol
[2016-11-17 03:19:27] mjones : Dumppp
[2016-11-17 03:20:43] mjones : See how the bots react
[2016-11-17 03:23:13] elmorte : CNY price is $785??
[2016-11-17 03:24:21] sleger : no it is 5335 cny
[2016-11-17 03:25:04] j8 : elmorte: thats how okc converts it, because they use the old usdcny=6.77
[2016-11-17 03:25:42] elmorte : j8: ah, thanks
[2016-11-17 03:25:55] elmorte : sleger: :p
[2016-11-17 03:26:47] theinvestmentguy : can anyone explain the difference between "taker fee" and "maker fee"?
[2016-11-17 03:27:14] j8 : the first letter is different
[2016-11-17 03:27:25] elmorte : maybe some investment guy can help
[2016-11-17 03:27:48] sleger : theinvestmentguy: it only depends on your color
[2016-11-17 03:28:09] elmorte : oh shit, sleger's going on another racist rant...
[2016-11-17 03:28:37] jose : theinvestmentguy: http://www.marketswiki.com/wiki/Maker-taker
[2016-11-17 03:29:56] elmorte : that link is confusing as fck...
[2016-11-17 03:30:09] jose : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2016-11-17 03:30:16] elmorte : Good job @jose :)
[2016-11-17 03:30:41] elmorte : And here I thought you were actually trying to help the guy
[2016-11-17 03:30:56] theinvestmentguy : thanks for the links
[2016-11-17 03:31:39] sleger : theinvestmentguy: you're blue so you're paying the lower fee
[2016-11-17 03:32:35] iefken : if we get at funding rate, the positions remain right?
[2016-11-17 03:32:43] BitMEX_Wally : theinvestmentguy: I replied to your email questions
[2016-11-17 03:32:57] iefken : not like the settlement with eth etc
[2016-11-17 03:33:01] sleger : iefken: if you're short it remains wrong
[2016-11-17 03:33:12] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: hey wally, whoto bug for minor interface quirks?
[2016-11-17 03:33:17] elmorte : who to*
[2016-11-17 03:33:25] theinvestmentguy : thank you very much
[2016-11-17 03:33:57] Turbo : so, this is the future of Bitcoin trading huh?
[2016-11-17 03:34:29] elmorte : Mostly the present...
[2016-11-17 03:35:05] jose : elmorte: XBTZ16 is the future
[2016-11-17 03:35:33] j8 : guys only 25 minutes left to sell your longs and not pay the funding
[2016-11-17 03:35:52] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Please email any bugs/quirks to support@bitmex.com
[2016-11-17 03:36:15] rapidtrades : COME TO ME FUNDING
[2016-11-17 03:36:23] elmorte : yeah, but that takes too much effort on mobile
[2016-11-17 03:39:04] sleger : math exercise : how many funding periods would it take to compensate for say... buying ZEC at 3 ?
[2016-11-17 03:40:01] elmorte : I need a bigger calculator...
[2016-11-17 03:40:47] jose : sleger: 300 days because ZEC is going to 0
[2016-11-17 03:41:16] elmorte : Although you could do it in a single period with a large enough contract
[2016-11-17 03:41:31] sleger : jose: and the math behind it is 3/1%=300 ?
[2016-11-17 03:41:55] j8 : ^ checks out
[2016-11-17 03:42:45] jose : sleger: if you bought 1 ZEC at 3 BTC, you are going to loose 3 BTC
[2016-11-17 03:42:55] sleger : jose: ok, and ...
[2016-11-17 03:43:07] sleger : why 300 days ?
[2016-11-17 03:43:28] elmorte : because the end of the world is nigh
[2016-11-17 03:43:46] jose : sleger: if you hold 1 BTC and get 900 funding at 0.375% every 8 hours, it will take less than 300 days to cover your loss if the price doesnt move
[2016-11-17 03:44:24] sleger : where does 900 come from ?
[2016-11-17 03:44:31] sleger : oh 3*300 ok
[2016-11-17 03:44:35] jose : sleger: 267 days
[2016-11-17 03:44:39] j8 : don't worry, the price won't move in the next 300 days
[2016-11-17 03:44:49] Rado : lol
[2016-11-17 03:45:10] Rado : sleger: could please you ask more interesting questions than that
[2016-11-17 03:45:37] elmorte : so I'm guessing rapid went long at 3?
[2016-11-17 03:45:45] sleger : jose: wouldnt you make 100% so 1 btc and not 3 ??
[2016-11-17 03:45:50] sleger : elmorte: 1 point for you
[2016-11-17 03:46:09] Rado : better than long at 3000
[2016-11-17 03:46:24] jose : i went long at 10
[2016-11-17 03:46:38] Rado : jose: ouch
[2016-11-17 03:46:40] sleger : hard to do worse
[2016-11-17 03:47:06] jose : impossible to do worse, the limit was 10 xD
[2016-11-17 03:47:27] sleger : 760
[2016-11-17 03:47:34] elmorte : I closed at 9 :/
[2016-11-17 03:48:21] elmorte : where's the funding discount damnit
[2016-11-17 03:48:57] Rado : I wonder if Bitfinex had no fees how much will the volume increase
[2016-11-17 03:49:51] elmorte : multiple times for sure, and that's not including ghost trades
[2016-11-17 03:49:59] Rado : I still can't believe the difference in volume between Chinese and none Chinese exchanges
[2016-11-17 03:50:30] iefken : Rado: lol first time i saw it i was 'wooow' aswell
[2016-11-17 03:50:41] elmorte : But check out the similarity in volume between Huob, Okc and BTCC
[2016-11-17 03:50:58] elmorte : almost identical on 30 days
[2016-11-17 03:51:14] Rado : elmorte: they all have 0 fees and all are Chinese
[2016-11-17 03:51:25] iefken : well distributed mining sales? :p
[2016-11-17 03:51:45] elmorte : I know, but they're almost identical in volume
[2016-11-17 03:51:58] elmorte : surely, traders have preferences
[2016-11-17 03:52:16] sleger : shurely, as jung1 would say
[2016-11-17 03:52:28] elmorte : what I'm saying is they're copying each other's volume
[2016-11-17 03:52:38] Dtrade16 : wow 760
[2016-11-17 03:52:43] Dtrade16 : that's crazy
[2016-11-17 03:52:56] iefken : 760 where
[2016-11-17 03:52:57] sleger : Dtrade16: hey that was my comment 5 min ago
[2016-11-17 03:54:06] Dtrade16 : bitfinex
[2016-11-17 03:54:14] Dtrade16 : why is the price soaring today?
[2016-11-17 03:54:41] Rado : Dtrade16: where have you been?
[2016-11-17 03:54:45] Dtrade16 : cadalyst?
[2016-11-17 03:54:54] Rado : I invested $1 Bill of my USD in BTC
[2016-11-17 03:54:57] Dtrade16 : Rado: out w my gf
[2016-11-17 03:54:58] Dtrade16 : :D
[2016-11-17 03:55:27] Rado : gf? are you 16?
[2016-11-17 03:55:39] Dtrade16 : no? lol
[2016-11-17 03:55:49] Rado : you should propose
[2016-11-17 03:55:53] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-17 03:56:44] elmorte : Rado: he's probably married
[2016-11-17 03:56:48] Rado : I guess we are going to make new highs
[2016-11-17 03:56:50] UncleWruncle : Dtrade16: don't do it man worst idea ever
[2016-11-17 03:56:59] Dtrade16 : lol
[2016-11-17 03:57:13] elmorte : no joke....don't do it
[2016-11-17 03:57:14] Dtrade16 : oh god I shouldn't said anything
[2016-11-17 03:57:18] XXXX : whoever is providing liquidity on XBTZ16 is doing a great job.
[2016-11-17 03:57:26] elmorte : 17500s? yeah
[2016-11-17 03:57:45] chaunceylee : anything
[2016-11-17 03:57:53] chaunceylee : anything wrong with bitmex
[2016-11-17 03:58:05] XXXX : yeah 17500s. easy to get in and out for most of the punters.
[2016-11-17 03:58:15] elmorte : chaunceylee: keeps taking my money
[2016-11-17 03:58:36] chaunceylee : why repeat messages
[2016-11-17 03:58:57] elmorte : are you connecting thru a repeater or direct?
[2016-11-17 03:59:22] chaunceylee : yes
[2016-11-17 03:59:23] chaunceylee : savevpn
[2016-11-17 03:59:35] elmorte : shhh...you can't say that out loud
[2016-11-17 03:59:42] Rado : lol
[2016-11-17 03:59:42] chaunceylee : I use vpn
[2016-11-17 03:59:49] elmorte : next thing you're gonna tell us is you're american
[2016-11-17 04:00:06] chaunceylee : nope
[2016-11-17 04:00:19] elmorte : smart, gotcha ;)
[2016-11-17 04:00:20] XXXX : chaunceylee: does that mean if you sell your profitable position you get twice the profit?? yum yum i need to look at this vpn thingy.
[2016-11-17 04:00:49] chaunceylee : I am allian
[2016-11-17 04:00:49] chaunceylee : allien
[2016-11-17 04:01:00] chaunceylee : from outspace
[2016-11-17 04:01:20] chaunceylee : far far away from earth
[2016-11-17 04:01:29] rapidtrades : 2 more sweet fundings coming up
[2016-11-17 04:01:43] elmorte : I think you from China man....Chauncey is a very chinese name
[2016-11-17 04:01:46] chaunceylee : aaahhh
[2016-11-17 04:01:48] elmorte : Ni hao brotha
[2016-11-17 04:02:02] chaunceylee : haha
[2016-11-17 04:02:12] theinvestmentguy : does the funding fee just get added to open positions? or credited to your account?
[2016-11-17 04:02:22] elmorte : the latter
[2016-11-17 04:02:29] theinvestmentguy : thanks
[2016-11-17 04:02:48] rapidtrades : THE LATTER
[2016-11-17 04:03:20] sleger : look in your trade history you should see something like this : XBTUSD Funding 291617 745.90 390.9592 XBT -0.3750% -1.466097 XBT
[2016-11-17 04:03:36] Rado : -0.100549 XBT
[2016-11-17 04:03:37] j8 : sleger loves showing off his big positions
[2016-11-17 04:03:39] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-17 04:03:48] rapidtrades : u got raped for 1k in funding?
[2016-11-17 04:03:52] XXXX : sleger: what -1.466097 XBT? man you are a whale.
[2016-11-17 04:04:12] sleger : rapidtrades: you dont know <0 means you receive ?
[2016-11-17 04:04:21] Rado : lol
[2016-11-17 04:04:21] elmorte : oh snap
[2016-11-17 04:04:25] Rado : I made 0.1 XBT
[2016-11-17 04:04:31] sleger : i closed part of the short before funding when there was discount
[2016-11-17 04:04:34] Rado : he made 1.46 XBT
[2016-11-17 04:04:50] elmorte : the rich get richer...
[2016-11-17 04:04:58] Rado : yeah
[2016-11-17 04:05:07] rapidtrades : i made peanuts cos mostly net long
[2016-11-17 04:05:28] aethlios : XBTUSD Funding 164320 745.90 220.2973 XBT -0.3750% -0.826115 XBT
[2016-11-17 04:05:39] elmorte : isn't it like 4/5am overthere dudes?
[2016-11-17 04:05:44] theinvestmentguy : I do not see the funding fee being credited in order history
[2016-11-17 04:05:52] aethlios : i am keeping it small here, better the weekly okcoin.
[2016-11-17 04:06:01] elmorte : theinvestmentguy: wallet
[2016-11-17 04:06:18] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-17 04:06:23] rapidtrades : can't believe this rally is still going on, entering 40th day now
[2016-11-17 04:06:45] rapidtrades : really breaching the time limits of previous rallies here
[2016-11-17 04:06:47] elmorte : actually yeah trade history, sorry
[2016-11-17 04:07:00] theinvestmentguy : thanks for link
[2016-11-17 04:07:46] rapidtrades : Rado: @sleger u guys still net long?
[2016-11-17 04:07:54] sleger : yes
[2016-11-17 04:07:56] Rado : yes
[2016-11-17 04:08:02] theinvestmentguy : long positions pay fee, correct?
[2016-11-17 04:08:16] Rado : theinvestmentguy: not the Dec 30 long
[2016-11-17 04:08:17] viptrader : finex at 760
[2016-11-17 04:08:34] elmorte : I don't know rapid, seems like we been rallying since Jan '15
[2016-11-17 04:09:04] rapidtrades : elmorte: oh really...and that fall to $450 was just a retracement?
[2016-11-17 04:09:30] rapidtrades : over 40% drop
[2016-11-17 04:09:32] Rado : sleger: how do you close 300k short?
[2016-11-17 04:09:36] viptrader : bitmex should be 760 in few minutes
[2016-11-17 04:09:39] elmorte : a blip, just zoom out a bit
[2016-11-17 04:10:01] Rado : rapidtrades: zoom out until it's a straight line
[2016-11-17 04:10:09] rapidtrades : JUST A FLESH WOUND
[2016-11-17 04:10:53] Rado : elmorte: rally started Sep 2015
[2016-11-17 04:11:01] sleger : Rado: 300k easy, look now ask is 85k in 50c
[2016-11-17 04:11:07] elmorte : which exchange fell to 450? 585 is what I see...
[2016-11-17 04:11:14] rapidtrades : if u look at weekly charts, yes @Rado
[2016-11-17 04:11:33] Rado : rapidtrades: I was correcting his Jan 2015
[2016-11-17 04:11:55] Rado : sleger: I guess not that hard
[2016-11-17 04:12:13] rapidtrades : right we were range-bound most of 2015
[2016-11-17 04:12:17] Rado : I am thinking of increasing my size from 20k to 50k
[2016-11-17 04:12:39] iefken : i have to be glad with 10k :p
[2016-11-17 04:12:39] elmorte : metric or imperial?
[2016-11-17 04:12:56] viptrader : holy shit
[2016-11-17 04:12:58] viptrader : finex moon
[2016-11-17 04:13:09] rapidtrades : finex is shit, noone trades there
[2016-11-17 04:13:19] Rado : moon is such a lame phrase
[2016-11-17 04:13:27] viptrader : finex is driving the western price up
[2016-11-17 04:13:44] elmorte : fckin thing bugs out whenever things get interesting
[2016-11-17 04:14:26] rapidtrades : back to 50 premium on dec lol
[2016-11-17 04:14:54] Rado : rapidtrades: a couple of days ago fell to $15
[2016-11-17 04:15:00] Rado : when I got long at 705
[2016-11-17 04:15:08] miramm1115 : what's $50 between friends ;-)
[2016-11-17 04:15:29] elmorte : a blowjob depending on where you come from
[2016-11-17 04:15:35] iefken : where can you see the premium?
[2016-11-17 04:15:42] XXXX : finex catching up to other chinese exchanges
[2016-11-17 04:15:52] rapidtrades : iefken: only greens can see it
[2016-11-17 04:16:14] Rado : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-17 04:16:17] XXXX : how does the color coding works here?
[2016-11-17 04:16:19] elmorte : Bitmex promised me green if I get another 100k volume
[2016-11-17 04:16:20] iefken : rapidtrades: oh okay :p
[2016-11-17 04:16:21] rapidtrades : let me know and I'll tell u what it is
[2016-11-17 04:16:45] iefken : let you know what?
[2016-11-17 04:17:08] Rado : 749.36/ 800.95
[2016-11-17 04:17:10] rapidtrades : when u wanna know how much premium is there
[2016-11-17 04:17:37] rapidtrades : i told Rado in PM, he doesn't have those privileges
[2016-11-17 04:17:38] iefken : oh ok thx :p
[2016-11-17 04:18:14] Rado : rapidtrades: you can charge for that service
[2016-11-17 04:19:28] rapidtrades : good idea
[2016-11-17 04:19:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.002677
[2016-11-17 04:19:37] elmorte : how many ZEC?
[2016-11-17 04:20:06] rapidtrades : iefken: service costs 0.1 ZEC now
[2016-11-17 04:20:18] iefken : thx, ill keep that in mind
[2016-11-17 04:20:31] Rado : https://twitter.com/SunnyStartups/status/799064317387833344
[2016-11-17 04:21:24] sleger : indians ?
[2016-11-17 04:21:37] rapidtrades : how is bitcoin gona help a bunch of poor ppl?
[2016-11-17 04:21:55] sleger : rapidtrades: they will sell the swap and earn great funding !
[2016-11-17 04:22:16] rapidtrades : 40% on 0 is still zero
[2016-11-17 04:22:19] elmorte : Damn Rado...who's making all the tshirts then?
[2016-11-17 04:22:29] sleger : rapidtrades: let me check your maths
[2016-11-17 04:22:35] Rado : India found bitcoin
[2016-11-17 04:22:36] Rado : https://www.google.co.in/trends/explore?geo=IN&q=buy%20bitcoin
[2016-11-17 04:22:42] sleger : yep got the same result
[2016-11-17 04:22:59] rapidtrades : yeah I have the best math
[2016-11-17 04:23:07] theinvestmentguy : was that a line up to buy bitcoin? I couldnt tell by the video
[2016-11-17 04:23:08] iefken : yea, 860$ ea or so :p
[2016-11-17 04:23:09] rapidtrades : I know many numbers
[2016-11-17 04:23:11] elmorte : Rado: probably stole it from China again
[2016-11-17 04:23:19] sleger : you made math great again !
[2016-11-17 04:23:33] rapidtrades : indeed
[2016-11-17 04:23:39] Rado : he got the idea from Trump
[2016-11-17 04:23:50] iefken : sleger: i do my very best
[2016-11-17 04:24:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 846 @ 802.26
[2016-11-17 04:24:02] sleger : iefken: sorry wasnt talking to you
[2016-11-17 04:24:36] elmorte : so...how long till we crash to 710?
[2016-11-17 04:25:02] iefken : sleger: my bad
[2016-11-17 04:25:26] Rado : elmorte: you are kidding right
[2016-11-17 04:25:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 400 @ 805.27
[2016-11-17 04:25:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 746 @ 806.84
[2016-11-17 04:25:44] rapidtrades : holy crap
[2016-11-17 04:26:11] elmorte : Cmon @Rado ...everytime we get this high BOOM, crash, children crying
[2016-11-17 04:38:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8500 @ 750.03
[2016-11-17 04:39:26] Dtrade16 : Well there goes 40 buxx
[2016-11-17 04:41:53] elmorte : Rado: what's your prediction then?
[2016-11-17 05:21:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 753.57
[2016-11-17 05:28:59] l3f : ouch
[2016-11-17 05:33:41] amirmass : china dump
[2016-11-17 05:35:11] Apocalyptic : the only thing China is dumping is US treasuries at the moment
[2016-11-17 05:35:20] l3f : amirmass: shit the never happened lol
[2016-11-17 05:35:59] amirmass : l3f: :)
[2016-11-17 05:36:05] amirmass : just kidding
[2016-11-17 05:36:08] amirmass : btc to 999$
[2016-11-17 05:36:17] l3f : my life for Aiur
[2016-11-17 05:36:54] Apocalyptic : oh and ZEC as well
[2016-11-17 05:37:12] l3f : Apocalyptic: zec the dark descent to zero
[2016-11-17 05:40:06] Apocalyptic : can't happen soon enough
[2016-11-17 05:45:13] l3f : I sincerely hope somebody is shorting btc right now
[2016-11-17 05:45:35] iefken : every sell order is trying to
[2016-11-17 05:46:14] amirmass : time to for new highs
[2016-11-17 05:46:21] iefken : hope so
[2016-11-17 05:47:32] l3f : nah jinxed it
[2016-11-17 05:47:34] l3f : goingt back to zero now
[2016-11-17 05:47:58] amirmass : gonna happen in few minutes
[2016-11-17 05:48:03] amirmass : 100 CNY move up in 1 minute
[2016-11-17 05:48:06] amirmass : u will see
[2016-11-17 05:48:33] Jason7189 : 5520 CNY at least soon
[2016-11-17 05:48:52] amirmass : Jason7189: agree
[2016-11-17 05:48:53] l3f : but but I thought china banned bitcoin
[2016-11-17 05:48:59] amirmass : going there
[2016-11-17 05:49:06] amirmass : in 1 market buy
[2016-11-17 05:49:09] amirmass : watch it
[2016-11-17 05:49:38] iefken : 20th june, was that the finex hack?
[2016-11-17 05:49:39] habibi : amirmass: u mad
[2016-11-17 05:49:54] amirmass : habibi: ?
[2016-11-17 05:49:59] amirmass : what and why
[2016-11-17 05:52:27] amirmass : there it comes
[2016-11-17 05:53:01] XXXX : amirmass: still waiting!!
[2016-11-17 06:05:43] zanza : sweet sweet funding rates guys
[2016-11-17 06:09:12] amirmass : MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
[2016-11-17 06:10:12] Apocalyptic : amirmass: need to get out of a long ?
[2016-11-17 06:11:06] amirmass : Apocalyptic: no, i need to moon to 1000
[2016-11-17 06:11:12] amirmass : so i can buy a new lambo
[2016-11-17 06:11:34] Apocalyptic : lambos are overrated
[2016-11-17 06:12:06] amirmass : bitmex will give free lambos to everyone who is long
[2016-11-17 06:13:53] imabeast : anyoen short here?
[2016-11-17 06:17:21] laisee : amirmass: long @ Bitmex, but no lambo in my email so far ...
[2016-11-17 06:20:14] Apocalyptic : laisee: check your garage, it might just be there
[2016-11-17 06:20:42] laisee : toy lambo in toy garage ... ok
[2016-11-17 06:24:26] zanza : imabeast: half the people are short here
[2016-11-17 06:28:18] zanza : wow ETH is shitting the bed
[2016-11-17 06:29:30] zanza : .12xxx soon
[2016-11-17 06:29:35] zanza : .012xxx
[2016-11-17 06:39:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1140 @ 748.81
[2016-11-17 06:44:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 6000 @ 797.07
[2016-11-17 06:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9140 @ 746.81
[2016-11-17 06:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 747.54
[2016-11-17 08:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 749.55
[2016-11-17 09:03:59] mjones : Dang missing out on profit
[2016-11-17 09:04:09] mjones : Sitting out for now
[2016-11-17 09:04:33] jose : mjones: wait for the sweet fundings :D
[2016-11-17 09:08:27] jpc : In this mkt these findings re dangerous
[2016-11-17 09:08:42] jpc : Fundings
[2016-11-17 09:08:58] DareDevil : you guys shorting BTC then?
[2016-11-17 09:09:28] CapitalGains : I'm shorting but it hasn't been enjoyable
[2016-11-17 09:11:06] CapitalGains : The expected dump has been taking its time
[2016-11-17 09:11:22] RoftheN : There's an expected dump?
[2016-11-17 09:11:38] CapitalGains : Depends on your position
[2016-11-17 09:14:31] CapitalGains : RoftheN: You long BTC?
[2016-11-17 09:20:43] RoftheN : No
[2016-11-17 09:21:00] RoftheN : I'm clueless rn so no posititions
[2016-11-17 09:22:25] CapitalGains : Not the worst decision. I'm holding my shorts until withdrawal cut-off, and if there's no drop in BTC I'm resigning from trading for the year.
[2016-11-17 09:30:13] aethlios : CapitalGains: why do you short a bull market?
[2016-11-17 09:31:05] aethlios : find a decent retrace to go long by the trend.
[2016-11-17 09:32:11] CapitalGains : aethlios: Probably because I'm a fool. I try to move up slowly, so each time it hits new resistance I short, but next time I short from higher and close higher. Shorting worked for the first two attempts at 750, seems third time not.
[2016-11-17 09:33:55] CapitalGains : If we have a retrace I'll probably long Z16 as a hedge and short swap according to plan. But now the premium on Z16 is way too large for that to be worthwhile.
[2016-11-17 09:34:02] aethlios : CapitalGains: listen since 10 january of 2015 and low 155, we constantly are in a bull market, for example bitfinex hack gave excellent long opportunity. The market recovered very soon, shows how strong is.
[2016-11-17 09:34:10] elmorte : It's always the last one that gets ya
[2016-11-17 09:34:33] CapitalGains : I definitely agree we're in a bull market
[2016-11-17 09:35:06] elmorte : CapitalGains: how is longing Z16 and shorting SWAP a hedge?
[2016-11-17 09:35:17] aethlios : so you must do the opposite, don't short previous resistances, but go long to a nice retrace which is strong support.
[2016-11-17 09:36:48] elmorte : unless the premium goes down a fair bit....ok, I geddit
[2016-11-17 09:36:54] aethlios : just my general strategy opinion.
[2016-11-17 09:37:31] elmorte : aethlios: how do you judge strong support?
[2016-11-17 09:38:04] elmorte : Finex, china or something else?
[2016-11-17 09:38:27] aethlios : elmorte: http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:support_and_resistance
[2016-11-17 09:38:35] CapitalGains : elmorte: yesterday I was going to hedge like that when the premium was $20 but I changed plans. The idea is that funding on swap takes care of the premium, and if BTC rises (bad news for my swap short), Z16 will probably rise much more, so it will be a net gain. It would have been yesterday if I'd gone according to plan, because the premium went up from $20 to $50.
[2016-11-17 09:39:07] elmorte : aethlios: I understand the definiton, but what charts do you look at for data?
[2016-11-17 09:39:27] aethlios : I use bitstamp for charting because has real volume and is an old data exchange with stable volume. volume inportant for MFI indicator that I choose.
[2016-11-17 09:40:19] elmorte : CapitalGains: I guess...quite a limited upside though