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[2016-11-16 17:33:02] j8 : canada
[2016-11-16 17:46:00] jung1 : anyone is short here?
[2016-11-16 17:46:14] arbitrage001 : jung1: me
[2016-11-16 17:46:29] arbitrage001 : sup, want to sponsor some anal cream?
[2016-11-16 17:46:43] habibi : jung1: nope, everyone is long here this time
[2016-11-16 17:47:07] arbitrage001 : habibi: every trade has a counter party
[2016-11-16 17:47:44] habibi : arbitrage001: reaaaalyy?
[2016-11-16 17:48:06] arbitrage001 : habibi: yes
[2016-11-16 17:48:29] arbitrage001 : reaaaaaaaalyy
[2016-11-16 17:48:40] habibi : arbitrage001: that's interesing, could u elaborate on that? how does it work?
[2016-11-16 17:51:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 700 @ 0.013760
[2016-11-16 17:58:12] jung1 : heh
[2016-11-16 17:58:12] jung1 : mark price is 10$ below
[2016-11-16 17:58:13] miramm1115 : nice premium
[2016-11-16 18:01:31] jpc : Thu must sell
[2016-11-16 18:03:57] j8 : anything more than 0.5% premium over mark is ADL danger zone
[2016-11-16 18:04:36] sleger : j8: shhht
[2016-11-16 18:05:14] j8 : sleger: make it clear that the market will break, then they'll lift the funding cap
[2016-11-16 18:05:17] mjones : Rip xmr
[2016-11-16 18:05:25] sleger : j8: just play the game
[2016-11-16 18:05:36] sleger : unfortunately my position is too big for that
[2016-11-16 18:07:26] j8 : with many accounts you could.
[2016-11-16 18:07:56] rapidtrades : $7 premium, sweet
[2016-11-16 18:08:02] arbitrage001 : j8: did they say they will raise cap and reduce lleverage?
[2016-11-16 18:08:19] rapidtrades : we're looking at couple of nice funding periods
[2016-11-16 18:08:37] j8 : i think at one point wally said they would do that if necessary
[2016-11-16 18:09:44] arbitrage001 : nice
[2016-11-16 18:09:53] sleger : it is necessary now
[2016-11-16 18:09:55] arbitrage001 : i have no objection on getting paid 3 a day
[2016-11-16 18:10:01] arbitrage001 : 3%
[2016-11-16 18:11:22] rapidtrades : yeah i want 3% per day too
[2016-11-16 18:12:41] QuantFocus : uhh, me too
[2016-11-16 18:12:54] QuantFocus : so it's decided
[2016-11-16 18:13:10] arbitrage001 : yeah, let's vote arthur out
[2016-11-16 18:13:35] arbitrage001 : put rapid in charge
[2016-11-16 18:14:15] mjones : Xbtz16 for high leverage. Xbtusd higher cap and lower leverage
[2016-11-16 18:14:35] wurstgelee : okc quarterlies just made a new year high
[2016-11-16 18:15:22] mjones : Crazy. Someone has like 100,000 contracts long there
[2016-11-16 18:15:42] arbitrage001 : mjones: probably some chinese
[2016-11-16 18:15:44] sleger : mjones: ?
[2016-11-16 18:15:50] Rado : mjones: 100k is nothing
[2016-11-16 18:15:54] sleger : zec contracts ?
[2016-11-16 18:16:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 8789 @ 780.01
[2016-11-16 18:16:04] Rado : I think he means XBT
[2016-11-16 18:16:14] mjones : 0kcoin quarterly long
[2016-11-16 18:16:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 18:16:43] arbitrage001 : 100k is chuck change for businessman in china
[2016-11-16 18:17:01] j8 : chump change?
[2016-11-16 18:17:03] mjones : Xbtz16 almost new high
[2016-11-16 18:17:29] wurstgelee : mjones: makes sense with quarterlies @ okc doing the same ;)
[2016-11-16 18:17:40] QuantFocus : i'll take chuck's change
[2016-11-16 18:17:53] arbitrage001 : chunk change
[2016-11-16 18:18:07] QuantFocus : woah boy. that xbtz basis
[2016-11-16 18:18:33] arbitrage001 : QuantFocus: good time to lock in the long term rate
[2016-11-16 18:18:34] wurstgelee : there we go...
[2016-11-16 18:19:30] sleger : short rekt are going to suck the insurance fund
[2016-11-16 18:19:56] arbitrage001 : thought adl already solve the insurance fund problem?
[2016-11-16 18:20:13] mjones : At least shorts rarely get called unlike longs which lag this site
[2016-11-16 18:20:17] QuantFocus : does ADL only kick in after insurance is drained?
[2016-11-16 18:20:51] JamesPolo : Why is price here so expensive ?
[2016-11-16 18:21:03] jung1 : JamesPolo: its future
[2016-11-16 18:21:15] mjones : Which one? Jamespolo
[2016-11-16 18:21:28] esuvari : who in their right mind would be shorting this?
[2016-11-16 18:21:37] arbitrage001 : esuvari: me
[2016-11-16 18:21:43] arbitrage001 : and many other
[2016-11-16 18:21:50] arbitrage001 : i am sure slegar and j8 also
[2016-11-16 18:21:51] esuvari : cmon guys, you'll get liquidated and auto deleverage us
[2016-11-16 18:22:03] esuvari : stop it
[2016-11-16 18:22:09] arbitrage001 : stop what?
[2016-11-16 18:22:14] esuvari : shorting
[2016-11-16 18:22:22] mjones : Lol
[2016-11-16 18:22:24] sleger : esuvari: you want everyone on bitmex long ?
[2016-11-16 18:22:25] arbitrage001 : if no one shorting, how is going to be your counter party?
[2016-11-16 18:22:31] arbitrage001 : who
[2016-11-16 18:22:31] mjones : ^
[2016-11-16 18:22:47] esuvari : I want them to short responsibly and close it in time before liquidation
[2016-11-16 18:22:54] mjones : Short eth 33x for mad gainz
[2016-11-16 18:23:29] habibi : mm on xbjz16 come back
[2016-11-16 18:24:11] mjones : Run away pump xbtz16
[2016-11-16 18:25:02] shiroe : i shorted, need to test 5000 houbi support.
[2016-11-16 18:25:36] mjones : Gotta retest 5499 cny
[2016-11-16 18:25:46] habibi : shiroe: hope u on safe leverage :)
[2016-11-16 18:25:50] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 18:25:56] wurstgelee : shorting right now?
[2016-11-16 18:25:57] wurstgelee : .....
[2016-11-16 18:26:08] shiroe : Yep, liq is 850. haha
[2016-11-16 18:26:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 738.69
[2016-11-16 18:26:18] wurstgelee : still no reason....
[2016-11-16 18:26:18] habibi : so lets go there then
[2016-11-16 18:26:26] mjones : Xbtz16 almost ath since it was created. No shorts will be in profit
[2016-11-16 18:27:36] Dtrade16 : you guys shorting btc rn?
[2016-11-16 18:27:45] mjones : Yeah
[2016-11-16 18:27:55] mjones : Someone has to do why not me
[2016-11-16 18:28:51] wurstgelee : tbh shorted some xbtusd 2 ;)
[2016-11-16 18:28:59] wurstgelee : holding z16
[2016-11-16 18:30:32] j8 : 58% p.a... nice
[2016-11-16 18:34:16] arbitrage001 : j8: think it will reverse soon?
[2016-11-16 18:34:29] arbitrage001 : or hold the pa for long?
[2016-11-16 18:34:40] j8 : 53 now :)
[2016-11-16 18:34:46] arbitrage001 : not sure why MM not taking advantage
[2016-11-16 18:34:50] mjones : Btc going back down. Xmr new low
[2016-11-16 18:35:15] j8 : really it's the china premium and okc quarterly driving it
[2016-11-16 18:35:29] arbitrage001 : as usual
[2016-11-16 18:36:10] j8 : i don't know what to expect if this is the start of a mega rally. okc capped the premium at 8% last time
[2016-11-16 18:36:54] j8 : after it went up to 15% on serious fomo
[2016-11-16 18:37:15] shiroe : shorts looking good at 745 :)
[2016-11-16 18:38:01] Dtrade16 : What's the target?
[2016-11-16 18:38:12] Dtrade16 : Even tho I don't have a position lol
[2016-11-16 18:38:57] +1 : Anyone know what will happen to position if no balance to pay funding?
[2016-11-16 18:39:45] sleger : cant happen
[2016-11-16 18:40:01] sleger : funding is prereserved
[2016-11-16 18:40:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 70 @ 0.013460
[2016-11-16 18:40:54] +1 : sleger: Tq.
[2016-11-16 18:41:15] sleger : Tq means Than qyou ?
[2016-11-16 18:41:44] +1 : sleger: Thank you.
[2016-11-16 18:41:51] +1 : LOL
[2016-11-16 18:42:19] Dtrade16 : Is it true someone bought 500k btc?
[2016-11-16 18:42:25] +1 : Should have shorted at 750..fuhh
[2016-11-16 18:42:30] Dtrade16 : and that's the reason for the spike?
[2016-11-16 18:43:03] +1 : Dtrade16: Rumours according to cryptocoinnews
[2016-11-16 18:43:11] shiroe : longed xmr thnx :)
[2016-11-16 18:43:18] habibi : any links ?
[2016-11-16 18:43:29] j8 : pretty sure you'd get a bigger spike trying to buy 500k btc
[2016-11-16 18:43:32] Dtrade16 : That's insane if true
[2016-11-16 18:43:39] Dtrade16 : True
[2016-11-16 18:43:45] Dtrade16 : 500k is insane
[2016-11-16 18:43:51] Boontjie : j8: all at once?
[2016-11-16 18:43:57] arbitrage001 : anyone trying to buy 500k btc will keep it quiet
[2016-11-16 18:44:02] habibi : arbitrage001: +1
[2016-11-16 18:44:10] mjones : Eth falling new low. That is going to dump hard
[2016-11-16 18:44:11] j8 : Boontjie: well that was the premise. of course you could do it slowly
[2016-11-16 18:44:51] Dtrade16 : how can you hide that lol
[2016-11-16 18:45:15] j8 : buy 1000 btc every day for 500 days
[2016-11-16 18:45:15] Dtrade16 : true
[2016-11-16 18:46:02] Dtrade16 : but i think if someone did buy that much we would have a way bigger move
[2016-11-16 18:46:11] j8 : yes
[2016-11-16 18:46:30] habibi : hope he bought chunk of it from Ver so he can finally end his experience with btc
[2016-11-16 18:46:46] Dtrade16 : i think whn btc gets regulation we will see a massive move upward
[2016-11-16 18:46:53] rapidtrades : Roger Ver i such a douche
[2016-11-16 18:47:13] Rekted : Dtrade16: maybe he start to buy the first 10 k^^
[2016-11-16 18:47:14] rapidtrades : he was the guy that praised buttfinex for the cut right?
[2016-11-16 18:48:15] Dtrade16 : That's when institutions will get in
[2016-11-16 18:48:39] Dtrade16 : Right now btc is like the wild wild west
[2016-11-16 18:49:05] QuantFocus : Dtrade16: better than 4 years ago
[2016-11-16 18:49:23] Dtrade16 : that doesn't matter tho
[2016-11-16 18:49:34] QuantFocus : progress is important
[2016-11-16 18:49:40] Dtrade16 : yes its for sure
[2016-11-16 18:49:40] QuantFocus : it's not binary
[2016-11-16 18:49:59] Dtrade16 : but i mean, until it becomes regulated
[2016-11-16 18:50:03] Dtrade16 : nothing wiill happen
[2016-11-16 18:50:07] Dtrade16 : big money wont flow in
[2016-11-16 18:50:14] JamesPolo : Down we go
[2016-11-16 18:50:22] QuantFocus : i'd argue it's already flowing in
[2016-11-16 18:50:35] Dtrade16 : From who?
[2016-11-16 18:50:39] QuantFocus : not to the extent it can be...but we're seeing it
[2016-11-16 18:50:42] shiroe : too early for christmas to go 1k btc.
[2016-11-16 18:51:07] +1 : habibi: sorry it was coindesk.. says sources from whaleclub said its all rumours http://www.coindesk.com/price-bitcoin-just-spiked-30-one-hour/ Means it's shorting time?
[2016-11-16 18:51:09] Dtrade16 : Big money I mean hedge funds and stuff
[2016-11-16 18:51:46] QuantFocus : Dtrade16: yea. if you think there aren't already hedge funds with btc positions, you're being naive
[2016-11-16 18:52:00] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: source?
[2016-11-16 18:52:51] Dtrade16 : And they may have positions but very small
[2016-11-16 18:52:54] QuantFocus : just my own personal insight
[2016-11-16 18:53:07] Dtrade16 : like a fraction of their portfolio
[2016-11-16 18:53:17] mjones : 500,000 btc order on exchanges doesn't sound right
[2016-11-16 18:53:20] QuantFocus : yea, but that's how money managers work
[2016-11-16 18:53:33] QuantFocus : like, someone might be invested in apple, with a fraction of their portfolio
[2016-11-16 18:53:36] QuantFocus : 1-3%
[2016-11-16 18:53:40] mjones : Whalenoobs
[2016-11-16 18:54:44] wurstgelee : plopp
[2016-11-16 18:55:16] Dtrade16 : I don't mean 1-3% though
[2016-11-16 18:55:20] j8 : so on that spike, okc had hourly volume of 328k btc, huobi had 343k btc. both are meaningless
[2016-11-16 18:55:28] wurstgelee : the sound of shorts. soon. ;)
[2016-11-16 18:55:35] Dtrade16 : Maybe like half a percent
[2016-11-16 18:55:37] Dtrade16 : if that
[2016-11-16 18:56:01] QuantFocus : anyway. i agree more capital will come in with regulation, but don't think they're completely on the sidelines
[2016-11-16 18:56:02] Dtrade16 : For big funds, maybe not even that much
[2016-11-16 18:56:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 739.69
[2016-11-16 18:56:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.013400
[2016-11-16 18:57:00] wurstgelee : i need more popcorn
[2016-11-16 18:57:02] wurstgelee : and a drink
[2016-11-16 18:57:28] JamesPolo : Thefk
[2016-11-16 18:57:28] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: It's just too risky
[2016-11-16 18:57:58] +1 : Is there any effect buying 1 dollar of bitcoin ?
[2016-11-16 18:58:07] Dtrade16 : They may have a bit of money in but when regulation happens, if it ever does, then we will see a lot of money coming in
[2016-11-16 18:59:00] jung1 : so its that famous moon time?
[2016-11-16 18:59:04] +1 : I mean to the price..
[2016-11-16 18:59:05] Dtrade16 : I also don't think we're going to go much past these prices
[2016-11-16 18:59:14] Dtrade16 : maybe 900-1000 usd max
[2016-11-16 18:59:21] jung1 : why?
[2016-11-16 18:59:45] Dtrade16 : any asset that is owned by the majority is subject to manipulation
[2016-11-16 18:59:47] Dtrade16 : like gold
[2016-11-16 18:59:53] Dtrade16 : gold is heavily manipulated
[2016-11-16 19:00:04] Dtrade16 : it should be in the 1000s right now
[2016-11-16 19:00:18] Dtrade16 : but its growth is controlled
[2016-11-16 19:01:11] Dtrade16 : its a form of control by the elite
[2016-11-16 19:01:29] Dtrade16 : economic control on people
[2016-11-16 19:02:27] sleger : Dtrade16: gold should be in the 1000s ?
[2016-11-16 19:02:37] sleger : unlike now ?
[2016-11-16 19:03:52] Dtrade16 : I mean like 4000-5000k
[2016-11-16 19:03:58] Dtrade16 : way more than what it is now
[2016-11-16 19:04:12] sleger : 5000k ? wow that's a lot
[2016-11-16 19:04:16] sleger : 5 million dollars ????
[2016-11-16 19:04:20] Dtrade16 : its growth is pathetic given its immense value
[2016-11-16 19:04:25] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-16 19:04:51] Dtrade16 : you have governments stealing ppls money and gold is barely moving
[2016-11-16 19:04:51] sleger : this guy must have skipped kindergarten math school ...
[2016-11-16 19:05:09] Dtrade16 : Not really a lot
[2016-11-16 19:05:19] Dtrade16 : Given the supply and demand concept
[2016-11-16 19:05:32] wurstgelee : gold should be worth 4-5m $?
[2016-11-16 19:05:41] sleger : it only needs to go up a few thousand times
[2016-11-16 19:05:41] dasdfasdf : market cap
[2016-11-16 19:05:53] QuantFocus : long gold
[2016-11-16 19:05:53] Dtrade16 : It should be worth well over 1200
[2016-11-16 19:05:56] sleger : "dasdfasdf: market cap" lol
[2016-11-16 19:06:07] sleger : 5 million $ market cap for gold
[2016-11-16 19:06:14] dasdfasdf : sleger: all in
[2016-11-16 19:06:25] sleger : you probably dont know what you are saying
[2016-11-16 19:06:33] Dtrade16 : Ok I don't
[2016-11-16 19:06:40] sleger : just words put together and vomitted all at once
[2016-11-16 19:06:56] Dtrade16 : I'm saying gold is heavily manipulated
[2016-11-16 19:07:08] sleger : you also said it should be worth "5000k"
[2016-11-16 19:07:17] sleger : after saying it should be in the "1000s"
[2016-11-16 19:07:43] Dtrade16 : I mean $4000-5000
[2016-11-16 19:08:43] Dtrade16 : Given time, supply and demand it hasn't moved
[2016-11-16 19:08:45] Dtrade16 : At all
[2016-11-16 19:09:01] Dtrade16 : You don't think that's a little weird?
[2016-11-16 19:09:26] sleger : "Dtrade16: Given time, supply and demand it hasn't moved" <= that kind of sentence is what i find weird
[2016-11-16 19:11:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 363 @ 740.91
[2016-11-16 19:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10130 @ 741.66
[2016-11-16 19:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20012 @ 741.99 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 19:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 741.69
[2016-11-16 19:11:32] QuantFocus : there we go
[2016-11-16 19:11:53] chromaticcr1 : lol
[2016-11-16 19:12:07] chromaticcr1 : bye bye hokkers and blow funds
[2016-11-16 19:12:22] sleger : poor insurance fund
[2016-11-16 19:12:28] QuantFocus : omg
[2016-11-16 19:12:32] REKT : All aboard the MOON train!
[2016-11-16 19:12:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 525 @ 796.78
[2016-11-16 19:12:34] imabeast : holy shiz
[2016-11-16 19:12:40] chromaticcr1 : 760
[2016-11-16 19:13:01] chromaticcr1 : 763 I am jizzing all over
[2016-11-16 19:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.008507
[2016-11-16 19:13:14] shiroe : 777 woot woot.
[2016-11-16 19:13:24] viptrader : mooon time
[2016-11-16 19:14:33] Dtrade16 : sleger: what's weird about it?
[2016-11-16 19:15:07] wurstgelee : so this is what we've been training for all 2015? ;)
[2016-11-16 19:15:24] chromaticcr1 : santa is coming to town
[2016-11-16 19:15:36] Dtrade16 : It's simple, as time goes by, less gold will be available, more people will be around, more people will also have more money
[2016-11-16 19:15:58] sleger : " less gold will be available"" ?
[2016-11-16 19:16:05] Rekted : if we break 5400 will be funny
[2016-11-16 19:16:12] jung1 : wurstgelee: cant wait to short it at 1500
[2016-11-16 19:16:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 19:16:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6000 @ 744.60
[2016-11-16 19:16:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25 @ 744.68
[2016-11-16 19:16:34] jung1 : this time I will not missed it
[2016-11-16 19:16:35] jung1 : no way
[2016-11-16 19:16:43] wurstgelee : eth in free fall mode
[2016-11-16 19:16:51] Dtrade16 : sleger: yes
[2016-11-16 19:16:56] jung1 : like all altoicoins
[2016-11-16 19:17:01] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: btc is going up, just keep the same ratio ...
[2016-11-16 19:17:01] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 19:17:09] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: keeping the same ratio**
[2016-11-16 19:17:13] anonymous789 : so i just came back after a few hours, looks like technical analysis working good still
[2016-11-16 19:17:25] anonymous789 : still holding my long from 705
[2016-11-16 19:17:27] Dtrade16 : sleger: people buy gold and hold it
[2016-11-16 19:17:30] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: i have no clue what you are talking about. what ratio?
[2016-11-16 19:17:31] CaptainDean : glad I sold all ETH at 0.0.1446 yestuday
[2016-11-16 19:17:34] thomaskikansha : alts in all red :)
[2016-11-16 19:17:34] jung1 : fml why I closed my big long from 702
[2016-11-16 19:17:37] jung1 : ehhhh
[2016-11-16 19:17:45] sleger : let me guess...
[2016-11-16 19:17:50] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: about 10$ each ETH
[2016-11-16 19:18:00] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: ah yes
[2016-11-16 19:18:04] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: from BTC price
[2016-11-16 19:18:15] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: english isn't my first language sorry about that
[2016-11-16 19:18:15] wurstgelee : i short them with btc ..
[2016-11-16 19:18:18] wurstgelee : so idc about $
[2016-11-16 19:18:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 19:18:23] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: :D
[2016-11-16 19:18:33] wurstgelee : not mine either
[2016-11-16 19:18:51] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: what's yours ?
[2016-11-16 19:19:01] anonymous789 : if it breaks through this with some volume, next key resistance is around the 770 mark
[2016-11-16 19:19:23] CaptainDean : I want to short but hoooooo this is risky !
[2016-11-16 19:19:47] anonymous789 : you should hold and wait for confirmation before the short, i.e. lower highs and lower lows
[2016-11-16 19:19:50] Dtrade16 : Why are ppl even buying if the news is bs
[2016-11-16 19:20:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 100000 @ 0.00001044
[2016-11-16 19:20:02] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: what is your first language ?
[2016-11-16 19:20:14] wurstgelee : german
[2016-11-16 19:21:01] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: cool mine is french
[2016-11-16 19:21:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 19:22:07] Dtrade16 : sleger: no more objections?
[2016-11-16 19:22:26] sleger : Dtrade16: ever heard of gold miners ?
[2016-11-16 19:22:32] anonymous789 : on the weekly this area around the 750 mark looks to be incredibly strong key resistance. Literally could go to the moon if it breaks this
[2016-11-16 19:23:35] shiroe : waiting for xmr rebound and btc to find support.. woooo risky trade.
[2016-11-16 19:24:22] anonymous789 : if it gets to all time high levels i'm gonna gamble and short, won't even bother waiting for confirmation of the short lol
[2016-11-16 19:24:31] shiroe : too many sells on houbi but it always ends up green. lol
[2016-11-16 19:24:54] mjones : Zec almost new low and price went up here lol
[2016-11-16 19:25:34] sleger : any admin ?
[2016-11-16 19:25:39] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: hi
[2016-11-16 19:25:51] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: Hello, could you please check the mark price of xbj7d
[2016-11-16 19:26:03] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: xbjz16 wake up mm there :)
[2016-11-16 19:26:09] BitMEX_Greg : sec
[2016-11-16 19:26:17] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: it is stuck at 80969 although there have been many trades above, impactbidprice is also higher etc....
[2016-11-16 19:26:19] anonymous789 : RSI still hasn't extended into overbought area on the daily, i think this is going to break 750 quite solidly
[2016-11-16 19:27:05] anonymous789 : MACD is also looking bullish
[2016-11-16 19:29:14] mjones : 700,000 xbtz16 shorts not in profit. Rekt em
[2016-11-16 19:30:08] j8 : mjones: double that
[2016-11-16 19:31:16] anonymous789 : could see a small correction here, overbought on the RSI on the hourly
[2016-11-16 19:31:40] anonymous789 : anyone else have some opinions?
[2016-11-16 19:31:55] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: This is last price protected I believe
[2016-11-16 19:31:57] QuantFocus : think we need to see a little contraction on the xbtz basis
[2016-11-16 19:32:09] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: correct, but i dont understand why it was stuck there
[2016-11-16 19:32:28] BitMEX_Greg : Were you looking at Index price or the Last Price?
[2016-11-16 19:32:30] sleger : is there a page that explains in details how it works ? @BitMEX_Greg Looked but couldnt find one
[2016-11-16 19:32:51] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: i was looking at mark price, and both last, impact bid and impact ask were higher than mark
[2016-11-16 19:33:04] BitMEX_Greg : Don't think we have added the documentation yet regarding LPP. Let me see if I can find something
[2016-11-16 19:33:21] BitMEX_Greg : We don't show mark. We show only Last price and Index price
[2016-11-16 19:33:31] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: i see mark in my open positions
[2016-11-16 19:33:45] sleger : XBJ7D 263107 323.2085 XBT 79045 81405 <- there
[2016-11-16 19:34:00] BitMEX_Greg : Yup ok I see what you mean
[2016-11-16 19:34:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 8000 @ 800.39
[2016-11-16 19:34:04] wurstgelee : oh boy...
[2016-11-16 19:34:09] anonymous789 : correction at this level i imagine wouldn't go lower than 740 since that was a decent resistance area and will probably become support
[2016-11-16 19:34:11] BitMEX_Greg : I''ll need to check with Wally later
[2016-11-16 19:34:14] QuantFocus : woahhh
[2016-11-16 19:34:20] anonymous789 : oh here we go
[2016-11-16 19:34:22] sebaas : ouch
[2016-11-16 19:34:24] anonymous789 : we broke 750
[2016-11-16 19:34:28] anonymous789 : next stop 770 i think
[2016-11-16 19:34:32] anonymous789 : then i don't know
[2016-11-16 19:34:33] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-16 19:34:44] jung1 : crazy mothefcker
[2016-11-16 19:35:20] anonymous789 : if the daily becomes overbought on the RSI and extends, i'll be looking to close my long and perhaps open a short
[2016-11-16 19:35:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 45 @ 0.008139
[2016-11-16 19:35:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 18 @ 0.008140
[2016-11-16 19:35:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7980 @ 746.95
[2016-11-16 19:36:03] jung1 : any idead on what level it might happen?
[2016-11-16 19:36:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.001239
[2016-11-16 19:36:21] anonymous789 : i think the correction maybe just as impressive as the rise lol
[2016-11-16 19:36:43] anonymous789 : jung1: the daily is borderline overbought right now
[2016-11-16 19:36:43] jung1 : hope so!
[2016-11-16 19:36:58] anonymous789 : but i would like to see it extend first before i close my long
[2016-11-16 19:37:12] Dtrade16 : wow
[2016-11-16 19:37:22] anonymous789 : around the 80+ level on the RSI and i'm looking to close my long i think
[2016-11-16 19:37:29] anonymous789 : on teh daily that is
[2016-11-16 19:38:23] anonymous789 : either that or a touch of 770 and correction back to 750 may signal a short term correction back down to the 720 level
[2016-11-16 19:38:48] anonymous789 : anyway this is just my opinion
[2016-11-16 19:40:27] sleger : jung1: missed the train agaiiiiinnnnn ?
[2016-11-16 19:40:34] jung1 : nope
[2016-11-16 19:41:00] Dtrade16 : I did
[2016-11-16 19:41:02] mjones : Zec new low!
[2016-11-16 19:41:13] sleger : Dtrade16: go buy gold i heard its going to 5000k
[2016-11-16 19:41:21] anonymous789 : anyone else concur or disagree what my technical analysis?
[2016-11-16 19:41:33] habibi : anonymous789: calm down and make money
[2016-11-16 19:41:33] Dtrade16 : sleger: ya ya funny
[2016-11-16 19:41:34] Dtrade16 : i said 5000
[2016-11-16 19:41:35] anonymous789 : with*
[2016-11-16 19:41:53] jung1 : I am on 735 sit in 3rd wagon
[2016-11-16 19:42:04] anonymous789 : habibi: i'm trying haha, i'd like to get some opinions though, tc something i'm working on :)
[2016-11-16 19:42:54] mjones : Market can stay overbrought for a while in bubbles
[2016-11-16 19:42:57] habibi : go to tradingview then and ask there for good opinion
[2016-11-16 19:43:10] mjones : 6000 cny then dump
[2016-11-16 19:43:13] anonymous789 : aah
[2016-11-16 19:43:18] jung1 : habibi: why? we can have here good converstion
[2016-11-16 19:43:19] QuantFocus : mini dump
[2016-11-16 19:43:47] mjones : Dump now actually
[2016-11-16 19:43:54] jung1 : not so mini
[2016-11-16 19:43:58] Dtrade16 : there goes .5%
[2016-11-16 19:44:01] QuantFocus : haha
[2016-11-16 19:44:02] anonymous789 : there's that correction that was signalled by the RSI on the hourly, going to 740 i think?
[2016-11-16 19:44:33] RoftheN : Damn I missed it again
[2016-11-16 19:44:57] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: mm on monero and japanese 30dec pls
[2016-11-16 19:45:18] anonymous789 : would be interesting if it went significantly lower than 740 since i'm guessing 740 would be a new support level as it was a pretty decent resistance level prior
[2016-11-16 19:47:15] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: checking
[2016-11-16 19:47:30] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: monero's back only j30dec
[2016-11-16 19:49:15] jung1 : stamp 730
[2016-11-16 19:49:45] +1 : Don't China sleep at this hour?
[2016-11-16 19:49:57] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 19:50:40] +1 : So they trade in their sleep?
[2016-11-16 19:50:44] jung1 : they always have small eyes so hard to say
[2016-11-16 19:51:34] QuantFocus : wow
[2016-11-16 19:52:09] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 19:52:28] mjones : Lol jung1 trying so hard not to laugh at work
[2016-11-16 19:52:38] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 19:53:08] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: they back, they hit their initial limits but i pushed them for a bit more
[2016-11-16 19:53:22] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: thank you :)
[2016-11-16 19:53:37] sleger : some asshole bought too much ?
[2016-11-16 19:53:41] j8 : that's what they get for quoting $20 under XBTZ16
[2016-11-16 19:55:02] sleger : its at almost 50 now
[2016-11-16 19:56:08] j8 : what is
[2016-11-16 19:56:30] sleger : premium on JZ
[2016-11-16 19:57:00] j8 : over spot
[2016-11-16 19:57:56] sleger : yes, but it was at 20% not so long ago
[2016-11-16 19:58:19] j8 : until some asshole bought too much
[2016-11-16 19:58:32] sleger : damn assholes
[2016-11-16 19:59:04] sleger : MM should join the chat and do a AMA
[2016-11-16 19:59:14] j8 : yes please do
[2016-11-16 20:00:32] QuantFocus : ehhh
[2016-11-16 20:00:40] QuantFocus : what happened with xbt funding?
[2016-11-16 20:00:44] anonymous789 : meh looks like 750 was a false breakout
[2016-11-16 20:00:46] QuantFocus : oh, nm
[2016-11-16 20:00:50] QuantFocus : just took a second to update
[2016-11-16 20:05:49] y1uy : these premiums are so annoying :@
[2016-11-16 20:07:49] anonymous789 : y1uy: indeed
[2016-11-16 20:09:53] QuantFocus : bitmex_greg
[2016-11-16 20:11:52] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: do you guys retain historical fair basis data?
[2016-11-16 20:12:14] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: I am not sure we publish that data specifically
[2016-11-16 20:12:33] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: You might be able to download last price and index price from the API and then just calculate it manually
[2016-11-16 20:13:01] QuantFocus : but i'm lazy
[2016-11-16 20:13:09] QuantFocus : :smile:
[2016-11-16 20:14:05] j8 : you guys definitely should publish mark prices, i'm sure you have people complaining about getting liquidated all the time and there's no record
[2016-11-16 20:14:30] BitMEX_Greg : haha lazy hands makes one poor, but diligent hand bring riches
[2016-11-16 20:15:08] BitMEX_Greg : j8: Yeah, that I am unsure of if in the pipeline or not. Need to bring it up with Wally
[2016-11-16 20:17:05] CapitalGains : Nail biting stuff... transferred extra BTC to Bitmex for margin so I don't get liquidated, but the transfer has been pending for 36 minutes :P
[2016-11-16 20:17:42] sleger : it will be pending much more than that
[2016-11-16 20:17:57] CapitalGains : Network overload?
[2016-11-16 20:18:04] sleger : wally-overload
[2016-11-16 20:18:09] kogroken : Isn't it always these days?
[2016-11-16 20:18:25] CapitalGains : Are the confirmations checked manually?
[2016-11-16 20:18:27] sleger : CapitalGains: sorry i thought you meant from bitmex not to
[2016-11-16 20:18:45] sleger : deposits are automated
[2016-11-16 20:19:12] CapitalGains : Every time previously it's taken basically 10 minutes, but now...
[2016-11-16 20:19:35] CapitalGains : I've learned a lesson about shorting BTC
[2016-11-16 20:19:35] habibi : CapitalGains: did u took a look at ur blockchain comfirmation ?
[2016-11-16 20:19:51] QuantFocus : CapitalGains: name change to CapitalLosses?
[2016-11-16 20:20:14] CapitalGains : QuantFocus: Haha not just yet.
[2016-11-16 20:20:49] sleger : CapitalGains: how far is your stop ?
[2016-11-16 20:20:56] CapitalGains : It needs to go to 776 on swap and 827 onZ16
[2016-11-16 20:21:22] CapitalGains : Which seemed reasonable a few hours ago
[2016-11-16 20:21:46] sleger : if you put a reasonable fee you should be good
[2016-11-16 20:22:03] CapitalGains : I actually got a friend to send extra BTC
[2016-11-16 20:22:17] CapitalGains : And it seems his fee was low, because I haven't waited 40 + minutes in ages
[2016-11-16 20:23:13] AudibleScience : CapitalGains: it's not that bad... 6272 Unconfirmed Transactions
[2016-11-16 20:23:55] AudibleScience : how long ago did you deposit
[2016-11-16 20:24:04] CapitalGains : 44 minutes ago
[2016-11-16 20:24:19] CapitalGains : The thing is, I actually want to short more, especially XBTZ16
[2016-11-16 20:24:26] CapitalGains : Just not with my margin in its current shape
[2016-11-16 20:24:41] Tetsuo : CapitalGains: gambling with frineds money
[2016-11-16 20:24:48] AudibleScience : you should be pretty close then
[2016-11-16 20:25:07] anonymous789 : CapitalGains: risky strategy when everything is showing bullish
[2016-11-16 20:25:23] CapitalGains : Tetsuo: No no, I actually have more than enough to pay my friend back on Poloniex, it's just in a loan at the moment
[2016-11-16 20:25:46] habibi : hope u won't need to cut this friendship
[2016-11-16 20:26:10] sleger : CapitalGains: it is possible the premium on Z goes to 200$ so be careful
[2016-11-16 20:26:25] CapitalGains : Sheesh
[2016-11-16 20:26:47] sleger : we have seen 80$ on the daily once, and the price was half....
[2016-11-16 20:27:21] arbitrage001 : any guess on who is paying 80 premium on daily?
[2016-11-16 20:27:31] dasdfasdf : me
[2016-11-16 20:27:31] j8 : that was quanto though.
[2016-11-16 20:27:38] j8 : still crazy.
[2016-11-16 20:28:04] CapitalGains : I went against my plan today and have paid for it. I was planning to short the swap and go long on Z16 as a hedge, all would be very well if I'd done that.
[2016-11-16 20:28:39] j8 : that's a great trade to do yesterday
[2016-11-16 20:28:44] arbitrage001 : CapitalGains: have risk as short term rate wont last
[2016-11-16 20:28:56] arbitrage001 : while lock term rate can lock in
[2016-11-16 20:29:12] arbitrage001 : the long term rate is very attractive
[2016-11-16 20:29:28] sleger : 50%, not really
[2016-11-16 20:29:45] arbitrage001 : sleger: 50% is not?
[2016-11-16 20:30:00] sleger : historically it is average
[2016-11-16 20:30:11] arbitrage001 : like to sell my left nut now and have cash to lock in if i can lol
[2016-11-16 20:30:16] sleger : you are blinded by the recent past
[2016-11-16 20:30:23] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-11-16 20:30:30] anonymous789 : why is it always the left nut?
[2016-11-16 20:30:40] arbitrage001 : left nut worth more?
[2016-11-16 20:30:50] anonymous789 : it is?
[2016-11-16 20:31:02] arbitrage001 : want to buy my right nut?
[2016-11-16 20:31:10] anonymous789 : fair point
[2016-11-16 20:32:59] anonymous789 : i don't know much about candlestick patterns but is that a bearish shooting star on the hourly for xbtusd?
[2016-11-16 20:33:27] CapitalGains : Ah, finally, liquidation price above $1000
[2016-11-16 20:33:50] CapitalGains : 50 minutes transfer time was slow even for BTC
[2016-11-16 20:34:15] anonymous789 : CapitalGains: whenever i transfer btc here, i send almost the whole amount, but leave a bit, then send a second tiny transaction
[2016-11-16 20:34:37] anonymous789 : that almost always gets the transaction through within 10mins or so
[2016-11-16 20:34:47] anonymous789 : not sure why it works, but it does
[2016-11-16 20:35:07] Tetsuo : sell that trick on the internet, could make you rich
[2016-11-16 20:35:26] anonymous789 : :D
[2016-11-16 20:35:30] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-16 20:36:12] anonymous789 : it's weird, it's almost like it gives the transaction that was stuck a bit of a kick up the ass
[2016-11-16 20:36:30] CapitalGains : Anyone else here shorting BTC?
[2016-11-16 20:36:31] AudibleScience : anonymous789: v interesting! maybe there is something about having 2 transactions instead of just one
[2016-11-16 20:36:52] iefken : CapitalGains: r u doing it for the funding rate or what?
[2016-11-16 20:36:53] anonymous789 : indeed
[2016-11-16 20:37:17] Tetsuo : CapitalGains: it ´t like the thing with the trump polls, no one will admit that they´re doing it
[2016-11-16 20:37:21] anonymous789 : i would short for the funding rate but i ain't got the balls to short at this level with everything looking so bullish lol
[2016-11-16 20:37:27] j8 : i heard if you split the amount into five transactions, it also works
[2016-11-16 20:37:40] anonymous789 : j8: interesting
[2016-11-16 20:37:47] Tetsuo : j8: thx
[2016-11-16 20:38:05] CapitalGains : iefken: I'm also a firm believer in BTC retraces, but I like to have enough margin to keep shorting incrementally until it turns around for the plunge
[2016-11-16 20:39:11] iefken : well, your color is better than mine so i got no argument there
[2016-11-16 20:39:38] iefken : did make some money with the rise :p
[2016-11-16 20:40:18] Tetsuo : without reds there wouldn´t be any green
[2016-11-16 20:40:19] sergiocal : Hi
[2016-11-16 20:40:54] Tetsuo : 404
[2016-11-16 20:41:06] CapitalGains : Does the chat colour have relevance?
[2016-11-16 20:42:11] CapitalGains : I think if BTC breaks 800 I'll be too scared to short any more
[2016-11-16 20:42:13] mjones : Checking my color. I only get rekt
[2016-11-16 20:42:24] Tetsuo : swampy greens are the crocodiles in the market
[2016-11-16 20:42:26] mjones : Blue = horrible trader
[2016-11-16 20:42:33] Rekted : why USD so low ?*
[2016-11-16 20:42:40] Tetsuo : Rekted: depends
[2016-11-16 20:42:48] mjones : Usd>btc
[2016-11-16 20:42:54] Rekted : 734 on coinbase
[2016-11-16 20:43:36] anonymous789 : CapitalGains: if my technical analysis is correct and it breaks 770 there may be no stopping it