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[2016-11-16 16:56:53] rapidtrades : should've made up some excuse 'it's freelance money'
[2016-11-16 16:57:24] j8 : i've never been questioned for it, but i've never tried to do large amounts
[2016-11-16 16:57:43] Rado : that's why I hate banks
[2016-11-16 16:57:56] Rado : I hope BTC services improve fast so we don't have to use banks
[2016-11-16 16:58:11] rapidtrades : j8: it was below 1k
[2016-11-16 16:58:21] Rado : wow
[2016-11-16 16:58:23] Rado : bastards
[2016-11-16 16:58:51] j8 : yeah that's lame
[2016-11-16 16:58:57] rapidtrades : i've had much larger transfers pass without question
[2016-11-16 16:59:16] Rado : chromaticcr1: how much is the internal exchange rate for this card?
[2016-11-16 16:59:22] j8 : was it coming from a criminal enterprise, like bitfinex?
[2016-11-16 16:59:33] Rado : $1 fee is very good for withdrawal
[2016-11-16 16:59:42] chromaticcr1 : 1% cut @Rado , ~700 on market they quote 693
[2016-11-16 16:59:52] rapidtrades : j8: haha...no kraken
[2016-11-16 16:59:57] Rado : chromaticcr1: not bad
[2016-11-16 17:00:15] chromaticcr1 : for me I have a HKD credit card but buying stuff online got 3% fx fee from HSBC
[2016-11-16 17:00:29] chromaticcr1 : if it is not quoted in HKD
[2016-11-16 17:00:49] chromaticcr1 : this would still be a cheaper way to spend my money on stuff on say amazon
[2016-11-16 17:00:56] rapidtrades : yeah those fx fees are the killer
[2016-11-16 17:01:03] rapidtrades : highest cost by far
[2016-11-16 17:01:23] Rado : chromaticcr1: can I deposit BTC to the card?
[2016-11-16 17:01:41] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: u can also buy amazon gift card with btc i think
[2016-11-16 17:01:56] j8 : Rado: you're canadian yeah?
[2016-11-16 17:02:01] Rado : yep
[2016-11-16 17:02:02] rapidtrades : u get small cashback too
[2016-11-16 17:02:03] chromaticcr1 : you deposit BTC to advcash account, they convery using the rate, then you shove the USD in the acc into the card
[2016-11-16 17:02:18] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: purse.io i guess
[2016-11-16 17:02:33] Rado : chromaticcr1: so I have to convert to USD to use the card?
[2016-11-16 17:02:41] j8 : Rado: quadrigacx has an option to withdraw to any visa or mastercard
[2016-11-16 17:02:44] Rado : I want to stay in BTC and only use what I spend
[2016-11-16 17:02:53] chromaticcr1 : yes
[2016-11-16 17:02:56] j8 : as in you sell btc on their exchange and withdraw to card
[2016-11-16 17:03:11] Rado : j8: withdraw to any credit card?
[2016-11-16 17:03:14] rapidtrades : j8: talking about advcash?
[2016-11-16 17:03:14] j8 : yep
[2016-11-16 17:03:18] chromaticcr1 : kinda cheaper to dump money into the card in bulk since you got the 1USD fee per chargeup
[2016-11-16 17:03:28] j8 : rapidtrades: don't know what that is
[2016-11-16 17:03:48] Rado : j8: that sounds great, let me check it out
[2016-11-16 17:04:15] rapidtrades : oh quadrigacx ....cex.io also has that
[2016-11-16 17:04:55] chromaticcr1 : and now we have max'd the predicted funding
[2016-11-16 17:05:18] rapidtrades : good
[2016-11-16 17:05:28] rapidtrades : bring in at that sweet funding $$$
[2016-11-16 17:05:39] chromaticcr1 : where do you guys hedge?
[2016-11-16 17:05:54] chromaticcr1 : not like I have deep pocket to hedge on bitstamp
[2016-11-16 17:05:59] j8 : capmex, lift the cap!
[2016-11-16 17:06:00] rapidtrades : here so far
[2016-11-16 17:06:07] chromaticcr1 : j8: lol
[2016-11-16 17:06:13] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 17:06:24] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: i guess jpy? or the quarterlies
[2016-11-16 17:07:18] QuantFocus : j8: they could reduce leverage to 50x like before
[2016-11-16 17:07:27] QuantFocus : j8: that would bump the cap to ~1%
[2016-11-16 17:07:46] j8 : they will have to as soon as price action gets interesting
[2016-11-16 17:07:49] Rado : j8: so the withdrawal to the credit card basically acts as a payment?
[2016-11-16 17:07:49] rapidtrades : https://cex.io/fee-schedule#/tabCashInOut <<these guys do card loading too
[2016-11-16 17:07:56] rapidtrades : haven't used it myself tho
[2016-11-16 17:07:57] Rado : I can pay my Amazon Visa that way
[2016-11-16 17:08:26] j8 : Rado: yeah, i haven't used it, but it's like how merchants can credit your card
[2016-11-16 17:08:49] Rado : that is what I have been looking for
[2016-11-16 17:08:53] Rado : thanks j8
[2016-11-16 17:08:58] j8 : no prob
[2016-11-16 17:09:34] rapidtrades : Rado: ur bank or card provider may charge a loading fee, so check it out
[2016-11-16 17:10:01] Rado : @rapidtrades amazon card has no fees
[2016-11-16 17:10:04] Rado : told you
[2016-11-16 17:10:05] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-16 17:10:50] rapidtrades : well aren't u a lucky canuck :)
[2016-11-16 17:11:27] Rado : Visa/MasterCard/AMEX Min $50, Max $9,999 4-7 Business days Free select
[2016-11-16 17:11:40] Rado : they have a ton of options
[2016-11-16 17:11:57] Rado : to credit card, bank account, paypal etc
[2016-11-16 17:12:21] Rado : express transfer has a fee
[2016-11-16 17:12:27] Rado : but still great
[2016-11-16 17:12:35] Rado : if you need express
[2016-11-16 17:13:07] Rado : ha ha
[2016-11-16 17:13:16] Rado : they have Cash Delivery Min $500, Max $5,000 Shipped within 72 hours
[2016-11-16 17:13:27] Rado : shipping my cash?
[2016-11-16 17:13:44] rapidtrades : lol that's weird
[2016-11-16 17:14:13] rapidtrades : maybe that's for buttfuck canada where there are no ATMs?
[2016-11-16 17:14:31] rapidtrades : Eskimoland?
[2016-11-16 17:17:14] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 17:17:21] Rado : ignorant European
[2016-11-16 17:17:35] Rado : don't be like US people
[2016-11-16 17:17:46] Rado : where I live we don't even have snow
[2016-11-16 17:18:02] Rado : only in the mountains
[2016-11-16 17:18:05] rapidtrades : Rado: that can't be true
[2016-11-16 17:18:12] jung1 : but everything that moves can kill you
[2016-11-16 17:18:13] Rado : it is true
[2016-11-16 17:18:18] rapidtrades : u mean right now?
[2016-11-16 17:18:23] rapidtrades : cos it's November
[2016-11-16 17:18:32] Rado : we don't have snow now
[2016-11-16 17:18:37] rapidtrades : well duh
[2016-11-16 17:18:40] Rado : or any time during the winter
[2016-11-16 17:18:46] rapidtrades : wtf no way
[2016-11-16 17:18:48] Rado : well there might be a few days only
[2016-11-16 17:18:54] rapidtrades : see u lied
[2016-11-16 17:19:04] Rado : every year is different
[2016-11-16 17:19:11] Rado : but not like you think of winter
[2016-11-16 17:19:22] rapidtrades : winter sucks
[2016-11-16 17:19:53] habibi : sleger: winter is coming for ur 1y investment
[2016-11-16 17:19:59] chromaticcr1 : we need services like GoldMoney that ships goldbar with BRINKS to your doorsteps, that would be more fun!
[2016-11-16 17:20:01] Rado : 8 degrees C
[2016-11-16 17:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.013530
[2016-11-16 17:20:19] jung1 : china sucks with that dump again
[2016-11-16 17:20:35] sleger : jung1: you are long now ?
[2016-11-16 17:20:46] jung1 : cant tell you
[2016-11-16 17:20:56] sleger : i need to know
[2016-11-16 17:21:49] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-11-16 17:25:34] arbitrage001 : sleger: contra indicator?
[2016-11-16 17:25:45] arbitrage001 : i am short. can use me as contra lol
[2016-11-16 17:26:41] sleger : what were the 2 dates finex redeemed some tokens ?
[2016-11-16 17:27:06] lockhedge : 3 already
[2016-11-16 17:27:31] arbitrage001 : nov 2nd and
[2016-11-16 17:27:54] arbitrage001 : sep 3rd, and
[2016-11-16 17:28:22] rapidtrades : prolly gonna see them redeem a lot soon so they can get smth back from sinking 20mil
[2016-11-16 17:28:29] arbitrage001 : sept 30th
[2016-11-16 17:28:30] sleger : not bad, they keep doing it
[2016-11-16 17:28:34] sleger : once a month
[2016-11-16 17:28:38] arbitrage001 : they need to increase
[2016-11-16 17:28:47] arbitrage001 : at current rate, it will take at least 5 years
[2016-11-16 17:28:49] rapidtrades : sleger: how are they gonna do it once per month?
[2016-11-16 17:28:58] arbitrage001 : which make yield less than 10% a year
[2016-11-16 17:29:09] j8 : Rado: sounds like you're right around the corner from me
[2016-11-16 17:29:10] arbitrage001 : at current token price
[2016-11-16 17:29:24] Rado : j8: Yaletown
[2016-11-16 17:29:40] rapidtrades : they're using our confiscated funds to pay for token holders, it's a pyramid scheme
[2016-11-16 17:29:42] rapidtrades : can't last
[2016-11-16 17:29:44] j8 : more or less
[2016-11-16 17:30:04] arbitrage001 : not confiscated, stolen fund
[2016-11-16 17:30:14] rapidtrades : same thing
[2016-11-16 17:30:19] arbitrage001 : could be plot within plot
[2016-11-16 17:30:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 253 @ 0.013520
[2016-11-16 17:30:26] arbitrage001 : since everyone selling rtt token
[2016-11-16 17:30:30] Rado : we should meet sometime
[2016-11-16 17:30:34] arbitrage001 : once they accumlate enough
[2016-11-16 17:30:40] arbitrage001 : then bam, hackers return the money
[2016-11-16 17:31:10] lockhedge : September 1 (1.1812%), September 30 (1.3152%), November 2 (1.5%), always used a combination of profit and "a reduction in our contingent liability reserves"
[2016-11-16 17:31:17] rapidtrades : if hackers 'return the money' we can be sure that there were no hackers in the first place
[2016-11-16 17:31:30] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: agreed here
[2016-11-16 17:31:34] j8 : Rado: yeah man i'm down
[2016-11-16 17:31:38] arbitrage001 : have to be someone within bitfinex
[2016-11-16 17:31:46] Rado : j8: cool, will ping you
[2016-11-16 17:32:03] j8 : i'm.. always here
[2016-11-16 17:32:07] j8 : lol
[2016-11-16 17:32:20] arbitrage001 : j8: must be profiting nicely?
[2016-11-16 17:32:31] j8 : can't complain
[2016-11-16 17:32:54] arbitrage001 : are you european?
[2016-11-16 17:32:58] arbitrage001 : or asian
[2016-11-16 17:33:02] j8 : canada
[2016-11-16 17:46:00] jung1 : anyone is short here?
[2016-11-16 17:46:14] arbitrage001 : jung1: me
[2016-11-16 17:46:29] arbitrage001 : sup, want to sponsor some anal cream?
[2016-11-16 17:46:43] habibi : jung1: nope, everyone is long here this time
[2016-11-16 17:47:07] arbitrage001 : habibi: every trade has a counter party
[2016-11-16 17:47:44] habibi : arbitrage001: reaaaalyy?
[2016-11-16 17:48:06] arbitrage001 : habibi: yes
[2016-11-16 17:48:29] arbitrage001 : reaaaaaaaalyy
[2016-11-16 17:48:40] habibi : arbitrage001: that's interesing, could u elaborate on that? how does it work?
[2016-11-16 17:51:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 700 @ 0.013760
[2016-11-16 17:58:12] jung1 : heh
[2016-11-16 17:58:12] jung1 : mark price is 10$ below
[2016-11-16 17:58:13] miramm1115 : nice premium
[2016-11-16 18:01:31] jpc : Thu must sell
[2016-11-16 18:03:57] j8 : anything more than 0.5% premium over mark is ADL danger zone
[2016-11-16 18:04:36] sleger : j8: shhht
[2016-11-16 18:05:14] j8 : sleger: make it clear that the market will break, then they'll lift the funding cap
[2016-11-16 18:05:17] mjones : Rip xmr
[2016-11-16 18:05:25] sleger : j8: just play the game
[2016-11-16 18:05:36] sleger : unfortunately my position is too big for that
[2016-11-16 18:07:26] j8 : with many accounts you could.
[2016-11-16 18:07:56] rapidtrades : $7 premium, sweet
[2016-11-16 18:08:02] arbitrage001 : j8: did they say they will raise cap and reduce lleverage?
[2016-11-16 18:08:19] rapidtrades : we're looking at couple of nice funding periods
[2016-11-16 18:08:37] j8 : i think at one point wally said they would do that if necessary
[2016-11-16 18:09:44] arbitrage001 : nice
[2016-11-16 18:09:53] sleger : it is necessary now
[2016-11-16 18:09:55] arbitrage001 : i have no objection on getting paid 3 a day
[2016-11-16 18:10:01] arbitrage001 : 3%
[2016-11-16 18:11:22] rapidtrades : yeah i want 3% per day too
[2016-11-16 18:12:41] QuantFocus : uhh, me too
[2016-11-16 18:12:54] QuantFocus : so it's decided
[2016-11-16 18:13:10] arbitrage001 : yeah, let's vote arthur out
[2016-11-16 18:13:35] arbitrage001 : put rapid in charge
[2016-11-16 18:14:15] mjones : Xbtz16 for high leverage. Xbtusd higher cap and lower leverage
[2016-11-16 18:14:35] wurstgelee : okc quarterlies just made a new year high
[2016-11-16 18:15:22] mjones : Crazy. Someone has like 100,000 contracts long there
[2016-11-16 18:15:42] arbitrage001 : mjones: probably some chinese
[2016-11-16 18:15:44] sleger : mjones: ?
[2016-11-16 18:15:50] Rado : mjones: 100k is nothing
[2016-11-16 18:15:54] sleger : zec contracts ?
[2016-11-16 18:16:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 8789 @ 780.01
[2016-11-16 18:16:04] Rado : I think he means XBT
[2016-11-16 18:16:14] mjones : 0kcoin quarterly long
[2016-11-16 18:16:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 18:16:43] arbitrage001 : 100k is chuck change for businessman in china
[2016-11-16 18:17:01] j8 : chump change?
[2016-11-16 18:17:03] mjones : Xbtz16 almost new high
[2016-11-16 18:17:29] wurstgelee : mjones: makes sense with quarterlies @ okc doing the same ;)
[2016-11-16 18:17:40] QuantFocus : i'll take chuck's change
[2016-11-16 18:17:53] arbitrage001 : chunk change
[2016-11-16 18:18:07] QuantFocus : woah boy. that xbtz basis
[2016-11-16 18:18:33] arbitrage001 : QuantFocus: good time to lock in the long term rate
[2016-11-16 18:18:34] wurstgelee : there we go...
[2016-11-16 18:19:30] sleger : short rekt are going to suck the insurance fund
[2016-11-16 18:19:56] arbitrage001 : thought adl already solve the insurance fund problem?
[2016-11-16 18:20:13] mjones : At least shorts rarely get called unlike longs which lag this site
[2016-11-16 18:20:17] QuantFocus : does ADL only kick in after insurance is drained?
[2016-11-16 18:20:51] JamesPolo : Why is price here so expensive ?
[2016-11-16 18:21:03] jung1 : JamesPolo: its future
[2016-11-16 18:21:15] mjones : Which one? Jamespolo
[2016-11-16 18:21:28] esuvari : who in their right mind would be shorting this?
[2016-11-16 18:21:37] arbitrage001 : esuvari: me
[2016-11-16 18:21:43] arbitrage001 : and many other
[2016-11-16 18:21:50] arbitrage001 : i am sure slegar and j8 also
[2016-11-16 18:21:51] esuvari : cmon guys, you'll get liquidated and auto deleverage us
[2016-11-16 18:22:03] esuvari : stop it
[2016-11-16 18:22:09] arbitrage001 : stop what?
[2016-11-16 18:22:14] esuvari : shorting
[2016-11-16 18:22:22] mjones : Lol
[2016-11-16 18:22:24] sleger : esuvari: you want everyone on bitmex long ?
[2016-11-16 18:22:25] arbitrage001 : if no one shorting, how is going to be your counter party?
[2016-11-16 18:22:31] arbitrage001 : who
[2016-11-16 18:22:31] mjones : ^
[2016-11-16 18:22:47] esuvari : I want them to short responsibly and close it in time before liquidation
[2016-11-16 18:22:54] mjones : Short eth 33x for mad gainz
[2016-11-16 18:23:29] habibi : mm on xbjz16 come back
[2016-11-16 18:24:11] mjones : Run away pump xbtz16
[2016-11-16 18:25:02] shiroe : i shorted, need to test 5000 houbi support.
[2016-11-16 18:25:36] mjones : Gotta retest 5499 cny
[2016-11-16 18:25:46] habibi : shiroe: hope u on safe leverage :)
[2016-11-16 18:25:50] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 18:25:56] wurstgelee : shorting right now?
[2016-11-16 18:25:57] wurstgelee : .....
[2016-11-16 18:26:08] shiroe : Yep, liq is 850. haha
[2016-11-16 18:26:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 738.69
[2016-11-16 18:26:18] wurstgelee : still no reason....
[2016-11-16 18:26:18] habibi : so lets go there then
[2016-11-16 18:26:26] mjones : Xbtz16 almost ath since it was created. No shorts will be in profit
[2016-11-16 18:27:36] Dtrade16 : you guys shorting btc rn?
[2016-11-16 18:27:45] mjones : Yeah
[2016-11-16 18:27:55] mjones : Someone has to do why not me
[2016-11-16 18:28:51] wurstgelee : tbh shorted some xbtusd 2 ;)
[2016-11-16 18:28:59] wurstgelee : holding z16
[2016-11-16 18:30:32] j8 : 58% p.a... nice
[2016-11-16 18:34:16] arbitrage001 : j8: think it will reverse soon?
[2016-11-16 18:34:29] arbitrage001 : or hold the pa for long?
[2016-11-16 18:34:40] j8 : 53 now :)
[2016-11-16 18:34:46] arbitrage001 : not sure why MM not taking advantage
[2016-11-16 18:34:50] mjones : Btc going back down. Xmr new low
[2016-11-16 18:35:15] j8 : really it's the china premium and okc quarterly driving it
[2016-11-16 18:35:29] arbitrage001 : as usual
[2016-11-16 18:36:10] j8 : i don't know what to expect if this is the start of a mega rally. okc capped the premium at 8% last time
[2016-11-16 18:36:54] j8 : after it went up to 15% on serious fomo
[2016-11-16 18:37:15] shiroe : shorts looking good at 745 :)
[2016-11-16 18:38:01] Dtrade16 : What's the target?
[2016-11-16 18:38:12] Dtrade16 : Even tho I don't have a position lol
[2016-11-16 18:38:57] +1 : Anyone know what will happen to position if no balance to pay funding?
[2016-11-16 18:39:45] sleger : cant happen
[2016-11-16 18:40:01] sleger : funding is prereserved
[2016-11-16 18:40:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 70 @ 0.013460
[2016-11-16 18:40:54] +1 : sleger: Tq.
[2016-11-16 18:41:15] sleger : Tq means Than qyou ?
[2016-11-16 18:41:44] +1 : sleger: Thank you.
[2016-11-16 18:41:51] +1 : LOL
[2016-11-16 18:42:19] Dtrade16 : Is it true someone bought 500k btc?
[2016-11-16 18:42:25] +1 : Should have shorted at 750..fuhh
[2016-11-16 18:42:30] Dtrade16 : and that's the reason for the spike?
[2016-11-16 18:43:03] +1 : Dtrade16: Rumours according to cryptocoinnews
[2016-11-16 18:43:11] shiroe : longed xmr thnx :)
[2016-11-16 18:43:18] habibi : any links ?
[2016-11-16 18:43:29] j8 : pretty sure you'd get a bigger spike trying to buy 500k btc
[2016-11-16 18:43:32] Dtrade16 : That's insane if true
[2016-11-16 18:43:39] Dtrade16 : True
[2016-11-16 18:43:45] Dtrade16 : 500k is insane
[2016-11-16 18:43:51] Boontjie : j8: all at once?
[2016-11-16 18:43:57] arbitrage001 : anyone trying to buy 500k btc will keep it quiet
[2016-11-16 18:44:02] habibi : arbitrage001: +1
[2016-11-16 18:44:10] mjones : Eth falling new low. That is going to dump hard
[2016-11-16 18:44:11] j8 : Boontjie: well that was the premise. of course you could do it slowly
[2016-11-16 18:44:51] Dtrade16 : how can you hide that lol
[2016-11-16 18:45:15] j8 : buy 1000 btc every day for 500 days
[2016-11-16 18:45:15] Dtrade16 : true
[2016-11-16 18:46:02] Dtrade16 : but i think if someone did buy that much we would have a way bigger move
[2016-11-16 18:46:11] j8 : yes
[2016-11-16 18:46:30] habibi : hope he bought chunk of it from Ver so he can finally end his experience with btc
[2016-11-16 18:46:46] Dtrade16 : i think whn btc gets regulation we will see a massive move upward
[2016-11-16 18:46:53] rapidtrades : Roger Ver i such a douche
[2016-11-16 18:47:13] Rekted : Dtrade16: maybe he start to buy the first 10 k^^
[2016-11-16 18:47:14] rapidtrades : he was the guy that praised buttfinex for the cut right?
[2016-11-16 18:48:15] Dtrade16 : That's when institutions will get in
[2016-11-16 18:48:39] Dtrade16 : Right now btc is like the wild wild west
[2016-11-16 18:49:05] QuantFocus : Dtrade16: better than 4 years ago
[2016-11-16 18:49:23] Dtrade16 : that doesn't matter tho
[2016-11-16 18:49:34] QuantFocus : progress is important
[2016-11-16 18:49:40] Dtrade16 : yes its for sure
[2016-11-16 18:49:40] QuantFocus : it's not binary
[2016-11-16 18:49:59] Dtrade16 : but i mean, until it becomes regulated
[2016-11-16 18:50:03] Dtrade16 : nothing wiill happen
[2016-11-16 18:50:07] Dtrade16 : big money wont flow in
[2016-11-16 18:50:14] JamesPolo : Down we go
[2016-11-16 18:50:22] QuantFocus : i'd argue it's already flowing in
[2016-11-16 18:50:35] Dtrade16 : From who?
[2016-11-16 18:50:39] QuantFocus : not to the extent it can be...but we're seeing it
[2016-11-16 18:50:42] shiroe : too early for christmas to go 1k btc.
[2016-11-16 18:51:07] +1 : habibi: sorry it was coindesk.. says sources from whaleclub said its all rumours http://www.coindesk.com/price-bitcoin-just-spiked-30-one-hour/ Means it's shorting time?
[2016-11-16 18:51:09] Dtrade16 : Big money I mean hedge funds and stuff
[2016-11-16 18:51:46] QuantFocus : Dtrade16: yea. if you think there aren't already hedge funds with btc positions, you're being naive
[2016-11-16 18:52:00] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: source?
[2016-11-16 18:52:51] Dtrade16 : And they may have positions but very small
[2016-11-16 18:52:54] QuantFocus : just my own personal insight
[2016-11-16 18:53:07] Dtrade16 : like a fraction of their portfolio
[2016-11-16 18:53:17] mjones : 500,000 btc order on exchanges doesn't sound right
[2016-11-16 18:53:20] QuantFocus : yea, but that's how money managers work
[2016-11-16 18:53:33] QuantFocus : like, someone might be invested in apple, with a fraction of their portfolio
[2016-11-16 18:53:36] QuantFocus : 1-3%
[2016-11-16 18:53:40] mjones : Whalenoobs
[2016-11-16 18:54:44] wurstgelee : plopp
[2016-11-16 18:55:16] Dtrade16 : I don't mean 1-3% though
[2016-11-16 18:55:20] j8 : so on that spike, okc had hourly volume of 328k btc, huobi had 343k btc. both are meaningless
[2016-11-16 18:55:28] wurstgelee : the sound of shorts. soon. ;)
[2016-11-16 18:55:35] Dtrade16 : Maybe like half a percent
[2016-11-16 18:55:37] Dtrade16 : if that
[2016-11-16 18:56:01] QuantFocus : anyway. i agree more capital will come in with regulation, but don't think they're completely on the sidelines
[2016-11-16 18:56:02] Dtrade16 : For big funds, maybe not even that much
[2016-11-16 18:56:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 739.69
[2016-11-16 18:56:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.013400
[2016-11-16 18:57:00] wurstgelee : i need more popcorn
[2016-11-16 18:57:02] wurstgelee : and a drink
[2016-11-16 18:57:28] JamesPolo : Thefk
[2016-11-16 18:57:28] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: It's just too risky
[2016-11-16 18:57:58] +1 : Is there any effect buying 1 dollar of bitcoin ?
[2016-11-16 18:58:07] Dtrade16 : They may have a bit of money in but when regulation happens, if it ever does, then we will see a lot of money coming in
[2016-11-16 18:59:00] jung1 : so its that famous moon time?
[2016-11-16 18:59:04] +1 : I mean to the price..
[2016-11-16 18:59:05] Dtrade16 : I also don't think we're going to go much past these prices
[2016-11-16 18:59:14] Dtrade16 : maybe 900-1000 usd max
[2016-11-16 18:59:21] jung1 : why?
[2016-11-16 18:59:45] Dtrade16 : any asset that is owned by the majority is subject to manipulation
[2016-11-16 18:59:47] Dtrade16 : like gold
[2016-11-16 18:59:53] Dtrade16 : gold is heavily manipulated
[2016-11-16 19:00:04] Dtrade16 : it should be in the 1000s right now
[2016-11-16 19:00:18] Dtrade16 : but its growth is controlled
[2016-11-16 19:01:11] Dtrade16 : its a form of control by the elite
[2016-11-16 19:01:29] Dtrade16 : economic control on people
[2016-11-16 19:02:27] sleger : Dtrade16: gold should be in the 1000s ?
[2016-11-16 19:02:37] sleger : unlike now ?
[2016-11-16 19:03:52] Dtrade16 : I mean like 4000-5000k
[2016-11-16 19:03:58] Dtrade16 : way more than what it is now
[2016-11-16 19:04:12] sleger : 5000k ? wow that's a lot
[2016-11-16 19:04:16] sleger : 5 million dollars ????
[2016-11-16 19:04:20] Dtrade16 : its growth is pathetic given its immense value
[2016-11-16 19:04:25] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-16 19:04:51] Dtrade16 : you have governments stealing ppls money and gold is barely moving
[2016-11-16 19:04:51] sleger : this guy must have skipped kindergarten math school ...
[2016-11-16 19:05:09] Dtrade16 : Not really a lot
[2016-11-16 19:05:19] Dtrade16 : Given the supply and demand concept
[2016-11-16 19:05:32] wurstgelee : gold should be worth 4-5m $?
[2016-11-16 19:05:41] sleger : it only needs to go up a few thousand times
[2016-11-16 19:05:41] dasdfasdf : market cap
[2016-11-16 19:05:53] QuantFocus : long gold
[2016-11-16 19:05:53] Dtrade16 : It should be worth well over 1200
[2016-11-16 19:05:56] sleger : "dasdfasdf: market cap" lol
[2016-11-16 19:06:07] sleger : 5 million $ market cap for gold
[2016-11-16 19:06:14] dasdfasdf : sleger: all in
[2016-11-16 19:06:25] sleger : you probably dont know what you are saying
[2016-11-16 19:06:33] Dtrade16 : Ok I don't
[2016-11-16 19:06:40] sleger : just words put together and vomitted all at once
[2016-11-16 19:06:56] Dtrade16 : I'm saying gold is heavily manipulated
[2016-11-16 19:07:08] sleger : you also said it should be worth "5000k"
[2016-11-16 19:07:17] sleger : after saying it should be in the "1000s"
[2016-11-16 19:07:43] Dtrade16 : I mean $4000-5000
[2016-11-16 19:08:43] Dtrade16 : Given time, supply and demand it hasn't moved
[2016-11-16 19:08:45] Dtrade16 : At all
[2016-11-16 19:09:01] Dtrade16 : You don't think that's a little weird?
[2016-11-16 19:09:26] sleger : "Dtrade16: Given time, supply and demand it hasn't moved" <= that kind of sentence is what i find weird
[2016-11-16 19:11:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 363 @ 740.91
[2016-11-16 19:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10130 @ 741.66
[2016-11-16 19:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20012 @ 741.99 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 19:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 741.69
[2016-11-16 19:11:32] QuantFocus : there we go
[2016-11-16 19:11:53] chromaticcr1 : lol
[2016-11-16 19:12:07] chromaticcr1 : bye bye hokkers and blow funds
[2016-11-16 19:12:22] sleger : poor insurance fund
[2016-11-16 19:12:28] QuantFocus : omg
[2016-11-16 19:12:32] REKT : All aboard the MOON train!
[2016-11-16 19:12:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 525 @ 796.78
[2016-11-16 19:12:34] imabeast : holy shiz
[2016-11-16 19:12:40] chromaticcr1 : 760
[2016-11-16 19:13:01] chromaticcr1 : 763 I am jizzing all over
[2016-11-16 19:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.008507
[2016-11-16 19:13:14] shiroe : 777 woot woot.
[2016-11-16 19:13:24] viptrader : mooon time
[2016-11-16 19:14:33] Dtrade16 : sleger: what's weird about it?
[2016-11-16 19:15:07] wurstgelee : so this is what we've been training for all 2015? ;)
[2016-11-16 19:15:24] chromaticcr1 : santa is coming to town
[2016-11-16 19:15:36] Dtrade16 : It's simple, as time goes by, less gold will be available, more people will be around, more people will also have more money
[2016-11-16 19:15:58] sleger : " less gold will be available"" ?
[2016-11-16 19:16:05] Rekted : if we break 5400 will be funny
[2016-11-16 19:16:12] jung1 : wurstgelee: cant wait to short it at 1500
[2016-11-16 19:16:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 19:16:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6000 @ 744.60
[2016-11-16 19:16:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25 @ 744.68
[2016-11-16 19:16:34] jung1 : this time I will not missed it
[2016-11-16 19:16:35] jung1 : no way
[2016-11-16 19:16:43] wurstgelee : eth in free fall mode
[2016-11-16 19:16:51] Dtrade16 : sleger: yes
[2016-11-16 19:16:56] jung1 : like all altoicoins
[2016-11-16 19:17:01] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: btc is going up, just keep the same ratio ...
[2016-11-16 19:17:01] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 19:17:09] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: keeping the same ratio**
[2016-11-16 19:17:13] anonymous789 : so i just came back after a few hours, looks like technical analysis working good still
[2016-11-16 19:17:25] anonymous789 : still holding my long from 705
[2016-11-16 19:17:27] Dtrade16 : sleger: people buy gold and hold it
[2016-11-16 19:17:30] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: i have no clue what you are talking about. what ratio?
[2016-11-16 19:17:31] CaptainDean : glad I sold all ETH at 0.0.1446 yestuday
[2016-11-16 19:17:34] thomaskikansha : alts in all red :)
[2016-11-16 19:17:34] jung1 : fml why I closed my big long from 702
[2016-11-16 19:17:37] jung1 : ehhhh
[2016-11-16 19:17:45] sleger : let me guess...
[2016-11-16 19:17:50] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: about 10$ each ETH
[2016-11-16 19:18:00] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: ah yes
[2016-11-16 19:18:04] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: from BTC price
[2016-11-16 19:18:15] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: english isn't my first language sorry about that
[2016-11-16 19:18:15] wurstgelee : i short them with btc ..
[2016-11-16 19:18:18] wurstgelee : so idc about $
[2016-11-16 19:18:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 19:18:23] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: :D
[2016-11-16 19:18:33] wurstgelee : not mine either
[2016-11-16 19:18:51] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: what's yours ?
[2016-11-16 19:19:01] anonymous789 : if it breaks through this with some volume, next key resistance is around the 770 mark
[2016-11-16 19:19:23] CaptainDean : I want to short but hoooooo this is risky !
[2016-11-16 19:19:47] anonymous789 : you should hold and wait for confirmation before the short, i.e. lower highs and lower lows
[2016-11-16 19:19:50] Dtrade16 : Why are ppl even buying if the news is bs
[2016-11-16 19:20:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 100000 @ 0.00001044
[2016-11-16 19:20:02] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: what is your first language ?
[2016-11-16 19:20:14] wurstgelee : german
[2016-11-16 19:21:01] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: cool mine is french
[2016-11-16 19:21:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 19:22:07] Dtrade16 : sleger: no more objections?
[2016-11-16 19:22:26] sleger : Dtrade16: ever heard of gold miners ?
[2016-11-16 19:22:32] anonymous789 : on the weekly this area around the 750 mark looks to be incredibly strong key resistance. Literally could go to the moon if it breaks this
[2016-11-16 19:23:35] shiroe : waiting for xmr rebound and btc to find support.. woooo risky trade.
[2016-11-16 19:24:22] anonymous789 : if it gets to all time high levels i'm gonna gamble and short, won't even bother waiting for confirmation of the short lol
[2016-11-16 19:24:31] shiroe : too many sells on houbi but it always ends up green. lol
[2016-11-16 19:24:54] mjones : Zec almost new low and price went up here lol
[2016-11-16 19:25:34] sleger : any admin ?
[2016-11-16 19:25:39] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: hi
[2016-11-16 19:25:51] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: Hello, could you please check the mark price of xbj7d
[2016-11-16 19:26:03] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: xbjz16 wake up mm there :)
[2016-11-16 19:26:09] BitMEX_Greg : sec
[2016-11-16 19:26:17] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: it is stuck at 80969 although there have been many trades above, impactbidprice is also higher etc....
[2016-11-16 19:26:19] anonymous789 : RSI still hasn't extended into overbought area on the daily, i think this is going to break 750 quite solidly
[2016-11-16 19:27:05] anonymous789 : MACD is also looking bullish
[2016-11-16 19:29:14] mjones : 700,000 xbtz16 shorts not in profit. Rekt em
[2016-11-16 19:30:08] j8 : mjones: double that
[2016-11-16 19:31:16] anonymous789 : could see a small correction here, overbought on the RSI on the hourly
[2016-11-16 19:31:40] anonymous789 : anyone else have some opinions?
[2016-11-16 19:31:55] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: This is last price protected I believe
[2016-11-16 19:31:57] QuantFocus : think we need to see a little contraction on the xbtz basis
[2016-11-16 19:32:09] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: correct, but i dont understand why it was stuck there
[2016-11-16 19:32:28] BitMEX_Greg : Were you looking at Index price or the Last Price?
[2016-11-16 19:32:30] sleger : is there a page that explains in details how it works ? @BitMEX_Greg Looked but couldnt find one
[2016-11-16 19:32:51] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: i was looking at mark price, and both last, impact bid and impact ask were higher than mark
[2016-11-16 19:33:04] BitMEX_Greg : Don't think we have added the documentation yet regarding LPP. Let me see if I can find something
[2016-11-16 19:33:21] BitMEX_Greg : We don't show mark. We show only Last price and Index price
[2016-11-16 19:33:31] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: i see mark in my open positions
[2016-11-16 19:33:45] sleger : XBJ7D 263107 323.2085 XBT 79045 81405 <- there
[2016-11-16 19:34:00] BitMEX_Greg : Yup ok I see what you mean
[2016-11-16 19:34:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 8000 @ 800.39
[2016-11-16 19:34:04] wurstgelee : oh boy...
[2016-11-16 19:34:09] anonymous789 : correction at this level i imagine wouldn't go lower than 740 since that was a decent resistance area and will probably become support
[2016-11-16 19:34:11] BitMEX_Greg : I''ll need to check with Wally later
[2016-11-16 19:34:14] QuantFocus : woahhh
[2016-11-16 19:34:20] anonymous789 : oh here we go
[2016-11-16 19:34:22] sebaas : ouch
[2016-11-16 19:34:24] anonymous789 : we broke 750
[2016-11-16 19:34:28] anonymous789 : next stop 770 i think
[2016-11-16 19:34:32] anonymous789 : then i don't know
[2016-11-16 19:34:33] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-16 19:34:44] jung1 : crazy mothefcker
[2016-11-16 19:35:20] anonymous789 : if the daily becomes overbought on the RSI and extends, i'll be looking to close my long and perhaps open a short
[2016-11-16 19:35:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 45 @ 0.008139
[2016-11-16 19:35:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 18 @ 0.008140
[2016-11-16 19:35:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7980 @ 746.95
[2016-11-16 19:36:03] jung1 : any idead on what level it might happen?
[2016-11-16 19:36:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.001239
[2016-11-16 19:36:21] anonymous789 : i think the correction maybe just as impressive as the rise lol
[2016-11-16 19:36:43] anonymous789 : jung1: the daily is borderline overbought right now
[2016-11-16 19:36:43] jung1 : hope so!
[2016-11-16 19:36:58] anonymous789 : but i would like to see it extend first before i close my long
[2016-11-16 19:37:12] Dtrade16 : wow
[2016-11-16 19:37:22] anonymous789 : around the 80+ level on the RSI and i'm looking to close my long i think
[2016-11-16 19:37:29] anonymous789 : on teh daily that is
[2016-11-16 19:38:23] anonymous789 : either that or a touch of 770 and correction back to 750 may signal a short term correction back down to the 720 level
[2016-11-16 19:38:48] anonymous789 : anyway this is just my opinion
[2016-11-16 19:40:27] sleger : jung1: missed the train agaiiiiinnnnn ?
[2016-11-16 19:40:34] jung1 : nope
[2016-11-16 19:41:00] Dtrade16 : I did
[2016-11-16 19:41:02] mjones : Zec new low!
[2016-11-16 19:41:13] sleger : Dtrade16: go buy gold i heard its going to 5000k
[2016-11-16 19:41:21] anonymous789 : anyone else concur or disagree what my technical analysis?
[2016-11-16 19:41:33] habibi : anonymous789: calm down and make money
[2016-11-16 19:41:33] Dtrade16 : sleger: ya ya funny