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[2016-11-16 10:46:54] zanza : so what happens this Friday when SegWit starts signalling
[2016-11-16 10:47:03] zanza : and ViaBTC/Bitcoin.com block it ?
[2016-11-16 10:47:09] meh : nothing happens
[2016-11-16 10:47:14] wurstgelee : its a 2 month signaling period
[2016-11-16 10:47:20] wurstgelee : nothing happens
[2016-11-16 10:47:37] zanza : the market will see that SegWit is being blocked
[2016-11-16 10:47:48] zanza : and maybe shit the bed
[2016-11-16 10:48:24] wurstgelee : they cant block it alone
[2016-11-16 10:48:26] wurstgelee : not for long
[2016-11-16 10:49:10] meh : zanza short and scared huh? ^^
[2016-11-16 10:49:17] zanza : im not short
[2016-11-16 10:49:21] zanza : just holding
[2016-11-16 10:49:21] wurstgelee : it wont be activated after 2 months tho...
[2016-11-16 10:49:23] wurstgelee : 1 /Satoshi:0.13.1/ 1508 (28.30%)
[2016-11-16 10:49:27] wurstgelee : still not bad
[2016-11-16 10:49:42] meh : fastest adoption till today afaik
[2016-11-16 10:49:45] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 10:50:05] zanza : Blockstream/Core has $80M invested in SegWit tho
[2016-11-16 10:50:14] wurstgelee : didnt update my node that fast until 0.13.1 tbh
[2016-11-16 10:50:16] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-16 10:50:17] zanza : this will get ugly fast
[2016-11-16 10:51:18] zanza : actually if there is a price crash, and everyone is blaming it on ViaBTC, they will probably cave to pressure
[2016-11-16 10:51:23] meh : blockstream offers solutions like bloq does, or redhat if you need another comparison, your 80m segwit investment makes no sense
[2016-11-16 10:52:09] meh : also BS != Core
[2016-11-16 10:52:10] zanza : it really makes no sense for the to push settlement layer so hard, if their business model wasn't critical on it
[2016-11-16 10:53:05] wurstgelee : btw, i made some buys visible @ zec, feel free to short ;)
[2016-11-16 10:53:09] meh : as i said BS != Core, and they dont push anybody, if segwit isn't activated after (afaik) 1 yr it gets droped and nodes forget about it
[2016-11-16 10:53:22] meh : afaik core even offered a 13.1 without segwit
[2016-11-16 10:53:22] meh : lol
[2016-11-16 10:53:35] zanza : Blockstream has like 75% of Core on payroll ?
[2016-11-16 10:53:46] zanza : including the big leader bosses
[2016-11-16 10:55:22] zanza : idk, I guess SegWit will most likely pass
[2016-11-16 10:55:39] zanza : I'm not a fan, but if 95% signals then that is it
[2016-11-16 10:55:42] wurstgelee : yep, same guess here
[2016-11-16 10:56:01] zanza : im not calling for fork like some extremists on /r/btc
[2016-11-16 10:56:14] zanza : (ie separate coin)
[2016-11-16 10:56:39] zanza : but the /r/Bitcoin censorship is very troubling, the community is very fragmented in a bad way
[2016-11-16 10:57:10] wurstgelee : i stay away from bitcoin related reddit
[2016-11-16 10:57:19] wurstgelee : so much anger and fud...
[2016-11-16 10:57:21] meh : i do favor a fork, i get 1x my BTC holdings + 1x fork BTC holding (which i'd dump for "corecoins") ^^
[2016-11-16 10:57:41] wurstgelee : shortsighted imo
[2016-11-16 10:58:13] wurstgelee : two bitcoins are not better than 1 bitcoin =)
[2016-11-16 10:59:10] meh : imo there will be only one BTC after a fork ^^ rogers altcoin is worthless to me (if they fork away)
[2016-11-16 11:00:10] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 11:00:34] wurstgelee : roger should just fck off and stop annoying everyone
[2016-11-16 11:01:01] wurstgelee : he'd like to be crowned king of bitcoin so much....
[2016-11-16 11:01:20] meh : haha totally
[2016-11-16 11:01:45] laisee : good to fork and resolve the issue properly, debate has gone on for years
[2016-11-16 11:01:55] wurstgelee : in other things, 4969
[2016-11-16 11:02:19] zanza : at least /r/btc doesn't have censorship
[2016-11-16 11:03:31] wurstgelee : zec will have another round of pumping fun
[2016-11-16 11:03:37] laisee : agree. strange that permissionless currency has such string attempts to control debate & ideas from some
[2016-11-16 11:03:39] wurstgelee : starting now probably
[2016-11-16 11:03:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 11:04:05] laisee : wurstgelee: cool, I'll buy that for a $ :-)
[2016-11-16 11:04:14] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 11:07:26] wurstgelee : first time i bought zec @ spot
[2016-11-16 11:10:24] meh : zec would be awesome but 20% cut is a nogo for a lot of ppl =/
[2016-11-16 11:11:02] wurstgelee : part of that is vc money, basically the same as icos...
[2016-11-16 11:11:12] wurstgelee : people dont have a problem with that
[2016-11-16 11:11:19] wurstgelee : and icos are usually 100% pre-bought
[2016-11-16 11:11:29] wurstgelee : doesnt make sense imo
[2016-11-16 11:11:31] meh : sure, also ICOs are a nogo for a lot of ppl id say
[2016-11-16 11:11:36] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 11:12:27] wurstgelee : apparently an order of ~ 50 zec is enough to push the prize around @ polo
[2016-11-16 11:12:29] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 11:15:19] zanza : ZEC also impossible to verify total money supply
[2016-11-16 11:15:36] wurstgelee : by design
[2016-11-16 11:15:58] zanza : so its not really trustless
[2016-11-16 11:17:19] wurstgelee : it is.
[2016-11-16 11:17:49] wurstgelee : u trust the code, not the chain ;)
[2016-11-16 11:18:05] wurstgelee : regarding supply ofc
[2016-11-16 11:19:26] meh : the code says, if u get all keys of all signers for the initial setup you can create as much coins as you'd like (imo very small odds, but still (peter todd is 95% confident ^^)
[2016-11-16 11:19:37] laisee : meh: no need to pay 20% if u can compile code
[2016-11-16 11:19:57] meh : yeah but thats another chain ^^
[2016-11-16 11:20:07] laisee : no, same chain
[2016-11-16 11:20:14] wurstgelee : meh: yeah, that peter todd roadtrip story was great
[2016-11-16 11:20:34] meh : its an altcoin bruh @laisee
[2016-11-16 11:20:47] wurstgelee : setup is trustworthy imo. enough for me at least ;)
[2016-11-16 11:21:28] zanza : why not just use Monero ?
[2016-11-16 11:21:43] meh : sure, its just smalltalk haha
[2016-11-16 11:23:17] wurstgelee : sure, monero is fine.
[2016-11-16 11:23:43] wurstgelee : i just think there is more money to be made with zec in the near future ;)
[2016-11-16 11:23:51] wurstgelee : i am a profit whore
[2016-11-16 11:23:52] zanza : :D
[2016-11-16 11:24:43] wurstgelee : altho monero is basically a tumbler, right?
[2016-11-16 11:25:05] wurstgelee : less secure/anon than zcash z tx
[2016-11-16 11:25:11] laisee : thats the main use of the cryptonote derivs, ya
[2016-11-16 11:26:19] meh : all cryptonote coins cant scale by design afaik
[2016-11-16 11:26:33] meh : dunno about zcash
[2016-11-16 11:27:20] wurstgelee : probably all shit. please sell ;)
[2016-11-16 11:27:25] meh : hahaha
[2016-11-16 11:27:30] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 11:27:42] laisee : sell when low, buy when high ... thx
[2016-11-16 11:27:48] meh : x)
[2016-11-16 11:28:18] laisee : and know that ur supporting the speculation economy when u do ... :-/
[2016-11-16 11:28:22] wurstgelee : 90 for grab. great offer, much $$$. sell, sell!
[2016-11-16 12:12:51] wurstgelee : can we stop the teasing and go for 5k now please?
[2016-11-16 12:16:15] wurstgelee : we cant oO
[2016-11-16 12:16:18] meh : if so i may go full retard, imo ~5-5,2k is the top for now (disclosure: atm short obv)
[2016-11-16 12:16:43] wurstgelee : longed some xbtz16 earlier
[2016-11-16 12:17:00] wurstgelee : i agree with the full retard tho
[2016-11-16 12:17:07] meh : :D
[2016-11-16 12:20:36] wurstgelee : oh......
[2016-11-16 12:21:11] rasdasd : Iam gonna fomo buy if it breaks 5000
[2016-11-16 12:22:04] wurstgelee : this is gonna be funny, a lot of people will probably...
[2016-11-16 12:23:04] mjones : Btc moon
[2016-11-16 12:23:17] mjones : Shorts get rekt
[2016-11-16 12:23:17] wurstgelee : wait for 5k please
[2016-11-16 12:23:29] mjones : 5185 to be exact
[2016-11-16 12:24:30] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-11-16 12:24:34] wurstgelee : YAY
[2016-11-16 12:24:37] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 12:24:38] wurstgelee : 5050
[2016-11-16 12:24:39] wurstgelee : wtf
[2016-11-16 12:24:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21900 @ 716.11 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 12:24:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 450 @ 716.32
[2016-11-16 12:24:54] mjones : there we go
[2016-11-16 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 22500 @ 717.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 74077 @ 743.18 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-16 12:24:58] Rekted : Look my name
[2016-11-16 12:25:00] wurstgelee : and HOW we go
[2016-11-16 12:25:02] wurstgelee : fuck
[2016-11-16 12:25:07] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-11-16 12:25:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 717.94
[2016-11-16 12:25:09] rasdasd : lol this short squeeze
[2016-11-16 12:25:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4300 @ 718.37
[2016-11-16 12:25:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25 @ 719.11
[2016-11-16 12:25:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 718.86
[2016-11-16 12:25:40] wurstgelee : insta-short all alts
[2016-11-16 12:26:30] wurstgelee : werks for XMR ;)
[2016-11-16 12:26:38] wurstgelee : also eth
[2016-11-16 12:26:43] wurstgelee : excellent ;)
[2016-11-16 12:26:56] mjones : xmr almost new low
[2016-11-16 12:27:01] mjones : 5061 cny
[2016-11-16 12:27:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5000 @ 720.60
[2016-11-16 12:27:07] wurstgelee : i shorted
[2016-11-16 12:27:08] rasdasd : fomo here we go
[2016-11-16 12:27:10] wurstgelee : obv
[2016-11-16 12:27:15] rasdasd : 5000 break up
[2016-11-16 12:27:19] mjones : yeah short alts if you missed btc pump
[2016-11-16 12:27:25] wurstgelee : mjones: both :D
[2016-11-16 12:28:03] mjones : 5185 come on
[2016-11-16 12:28:09] anonymous789 : so glad i went long btc at 705, appears that technical analysis works quite well in this market
[2016-11-16 12:28:22] wurstgelee : anonymous789: sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt
[2016-11-16 12:28:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 12:28:37] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: always the case right lol
[2016-11-16 12:28:38] rasdasd : 730 test
[2016-11-16 12:28:43] anonymous789 : but this one worked out to a T
[2016-11-16 12:28:46] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-16 12:29:05] wurstgelee : eth and xmr, please die
[2016-11-16 12:29:05] mjones : surprised more didnt get rekt
[2016-11-16 12:30:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 690 @ 721.99
[2016-11-16 12:30:54] anonymous789 : mjones: technical analysis suggests btc is going higher, next 'weak' resistance at around the 730 mark
[2016-11-16 12:30:58] wurstgelee : xmr made a new low...
[2016-11-16 12:31:22] anonymous789 : if it breaks that then it has to break 740 with force to continue the uptrend
[2016-11-16 12:32:12] Yuppie : Can somebody explain to me why there is an annualised 25% funding rate for BTC longd and vice versa carry for shorts?
[2016-11-16 12:32:19] anonymous789 : and would expect very strong resistance at the 750 level
[2016-11-16 12:32:32] Yuppie : Is this merely market expectation?
[2016-11-16 12:32:49] mjones : xbtz16 hasnt been this high in a week
[2016-11-16 12:33:01] mjones : china new high
[2016-11-16 12:33:11] mjones : 100 cny away from dragging everyone to the moon
[2016-11-16 12:34:10] rasdasd : lol shorts are getting rekt..finex pushing up as well
[2016-11-16 12:40:21] mjones : only 1500 BTC short on btc/usd on bitfinex
[2016-11-16 12:41:28] meh : boojaaa
[2016-11-16 12:41:35] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 12:43:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 723.68
[2016-11-16 12:43:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 150 @ 723.80
[2016-11-16 12:43:32] wurstgelee : weeeeeeeeeee
[2016-11-16 12:43:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1052 @ 0.013940
[2016-11-16 12:43:42] meh : haha ^^, has to break 5150 now on sic volume, my full retard level x)
[2016-11-16 12:43:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 725.67
[2016-11-16 12:44:05] wurstgelee : i am already bals deep into this, enough retard level ;)
[2016-11-16 12:44:07] thomaskikansha : omg
[2016-11-16 12:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.013890
[2016-11-16 12:44:22] wurstgelee : altho i might still add some retardiation any minute oO
[2016-11-16 12:44:27] anonymous789 : how does the pricing source work on xbtusd? says the source is kaiko, but kaiko says btc at 730, but on here the spot is 726?
[2016-11-16 12:44:30] meh : haha gl man
[2016-11-16 12:45:16] wurstgelee : holy f....
[2016-11-16 12:45:24] thomaskikansha : year high?
[2016-11-16 12:45:26] wurstgelee : meh: your level is down
[2016-11-16 12:45:27] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-16 12:45:28] mjones : we did it
[2016-11-16 12:45:30] mjones : 6000 CNY next stop
[2016-11-16 12:45:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 131907 @ 766.78 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-16 12:45:40] rasdasd : wow
[2016-11-16 12:46:04] thomaskikansha : 5500 OH NO
[2016-11-16 12:46:05] wurstgelee : 5400?
[2016-11-16 12:46:10] wurstgelee : did that just happen?
[2016-11-16 12:46:15] mjones : gotta make sure i dont get adl
[2016-11-16 12:46:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6716 @ 732.46
[2016-11-16 12:46:23] mjones : yeah no sell orders up here in okcoin
[2016-11-16 12:46:29] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 12:46:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.009738
[2016-11-16 12:46:33] wurstgelee : awesome
[2016-11-16 12:46:37] mjones : 600 BTC to 5440 CNY
[2016-11-16 12:46:39] anonymous789 : this needs to break 750 to moon
[2016-11-16 12:46:44] mjones : someone close so i dont get adl
[2016-11-16 12:46:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 225 @ 735.31
[2016-11-16 12:47:00] wurstgelee : i am pretty close to adl everywhere i guess
[2016-11-16 12:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.002887
[2016-11-16 12:47:06] wurstgelee : xmr, eth, xbtz16...
[2016-11-16 12:47:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 410 @ 737.47
[2016-11-16 12:47:47] meh : holding a risky short here lol
[2016-11-16 12:47:56] wurstgelee : meh: btc?
[2016-11-16 12:47:57] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 12:48:03] mjones : maybe i should have closed and shorted O_O
[2016-11-16 12:48:33] meh : yeah, nothing big, still considering to top up, waiting for the volume
[2016-11-16 12:48:48] thomaskikansha : short with tight stop then its ok
[2016-11-16 12:49:01] wurstgelee : after it spiked to 5400?
[2016-11-16 12:49:04] anonymous789 : key resistance area right here
[2016-11-16 12:49:04] rasdasd : I lost 50% in 5 mins lol
[2016-11-16 12:49:07] wurstgelee : i wont....not suicidal
[2016-11-16 12:49:07] ytaews : is this because of brexit
[2016-11-16 12:49:08] rasdasd : short from 230 with 50x
[2016-11-16 12:49:27] JamesPolo : Fuck
[2016-11-16 12:50:42] JamesPolo : Mega rekt shorting at 715
[2016-11-16 12:50:52] xzsd : where from this mark price of MONERO?
[2016-11-16 12:51:06] sleger : and the swap has a ... discount ???
[2016-11-16 12:51:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 16020 @ 738.31
[2016-11-16 12:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 284 @ 739.26
[2016-11-16 12:51:52] wurstgelee : sleger: yep..
[2016-11-16 12:52:13] sleger : i put it back where it belongs
[2016-11-16 12:52:17] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 12:52:33] wurstgelee : i missed the swap train
[2016-11-16 12:52:44] wurstgelee : had a ticket on the z16 tho
[2016-11-16 12:52:46] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 12:53:13] rasdasd : 750 here we go
[2016-11-16 12:53:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.013670
[2016-11-16 12:53:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 80 @ 0.013650
[2016-11-16 12:53:26] Gomezpl : to the moon 800 today
[2016-11-16 12:53:38] anonymous789 : let's see what happens at 750
[2016-11-16 12:53:44] mjones : why is eth so low here. lol
[2016-11-16 12:53:56] rasdasd : wooww finex
[2016-11-16 12:54:26] anonymous789 : the RSI on the daily still isn't completely overbought
[2016-11-16 12:54:33] anonymous789 : suggesting there is still fairly significant upside
[2016-11-16 12:55:07] anonymous789 : btc tends to go way into the overbought levels before it corrects so this is going to be interesting
[2016-11-16 12:55:13] thomaskikansha : finex still $20 lower from China
[2016-11-16 12:55:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 80000 @ 0.00001053
[2016-11-16 12:55:41] mjones : my app says okcoin hit 5499 CNY and bitcoinwisdom says 5399 CNY
[2016-11-16 12:56:32] habibi : http://prntscr.com/d7z4aw
[2016-11-16 12:58:33] mjones : holy shit. no wonder there wasnt much for sale up there. someone bought everything
[2016-11-16 12:58:58] mjones : props to whoever has the BTC to spare to knock the price down and sell some for much less
[2016-11-16 12:58:58] sleger : and it is going back up there
[2016-11-16 12:59:01] rasdasd : yep he is holding up the price..but I think we are gonna retrace to 730 before next move
[2016-11-16 13:00:38] mjones : cryptowatch broke. no wonder eth price is different on polo
[2016-11-16 13:01:36] mjones : bitfinex $10 away from new high
[2016-11-16 13:02:52] mjones : and 0kcoin market maker is back. lets see what happens
[2016-11-16 13:03:16] rasdasd : ah finex going back
[2016-11-16 13:05:32] BitMEX_Arthur : I can only imagine what will happen if USDCNH breaks 6.90 tonight
[2016-11-16 13:05:42] messiaen8844 : USD strong :)
[2016-11-16 13:06:11] mjones : i refreshed bitcoinwisdom and now china orderbook depth counts by 50 instead of 20. boo
[2016-11-16 13:06:24] rasdasd : good chance to short btc
[2016-11-16 13:09:23] aethlios : we will buy cheao 0.003 monero when btc 1200
[2016-11-16 13:09:54] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Arthur: seems possible during US market period
[2016-11-16 13:10:06] chromaticcr1 : #makeItRain
[2016-11-16 13:11:41] Gekko : Chinese are pushing CNY down as much as they can before Trumpster gets in in January
[2016-11-16 13:12:09] Rekted : Gekko: we saw that
[2016-11-16 13:12:23] Rekted : nice dump bro !
[2016-11-16 13:12:44] Gekko : so expect alot more between now and then!
[2016-11-16 13:13:17] meh : maybe a triple top around ~750? anyone? ^^
[2016-11-16 13:13:41] Gekko : buy the dips
[2016-11-16 13:14:07] meh : short the top x)
[2016-11-16 13:14:30] rasdasd : risky to short here...if we are about to reach new ATH..its not over yet
[2016-11-16 13:14:49] Rekted : rasdasd: no pain no gain
[2016-11-16 13:15:03] Gekko : will trade 735, then 770
[2016-11-16 13:15:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 4410 @ 0.001254
[2016-11-16 13:15:58] rasdasd : havent seen this 5200 support in china for a long time
[2016-11-16 13:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.001251
[2016-11-16 13:19:50] mjones : zec almost new low
[2016-11-16 13:21:03] Gekko : Altcoins are cabbage at moment, just like EM Currencies. Crypto flight to quality
[2016-11-16 13:22:26] mjones : damn guess i should have closed and shorted into that megarekt wall
[2016-11-16 13:22:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3000 @ 766.25
[2016-11-16 13:22:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 22 @ 768.73
[2016-11-16 13:23:23] Gekko : buy the pullback, if CNY keeps going 800 is a chip shot from here
[2016-11-16 13:23:39] zanza : who would just place huge market order like that ?
[2016-11-16 13:23:50] zanza : manipulator
[2016-11-16 13:23:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.013850
[2016-11-16 13:25:02] rasdasd : finex 734
[2016-11-16 13:25:09] rasdasd : 730 now
[2016-11-16 13:25:56] mjones : yeah. damn bitfinex. always a rally killer
[2016-11-16 13:28:57] zanza : nice premium
[2016-11-16 13:29:45] zanza : i would short this now if i was playing
[2016-11-16 13:29:56] zanza : premium + funding coming your way
[2016-11-16 13:30:52] rasdasd : china dumping now
[2016-11-16 13:31:33] mjones : china bouncing now
[2016-11-16 13:31:35] Gekko : at the moment only the fairly sophisticated are getting their money out of China using BTC. Wait till the Rural farmers get in on the act... gotta buy dips
[2016-11-16 13:33:05] aethlios : trump wants to narrow the trade deficit with china, if lepen gets elected and other european countries want to do the same to increase national production, then Chinese exports are doomed and yuan in trouble.
[2016-11-16 13:33:35] mjones : yup
[2016-11-16 13:33:54] mjones : china's inflated market is gonna be screwed
[2016-11-16 13:34:14] aethlios : 365 bill trade deficit us has with china
[2016-11-16 13:34:48] Gekko : and every Chinese guy with savings gonna want to get out of CNY....even if 1% Chinese savers used BTC for 10% of their savings, we are talking 5000 per BTC
[2016-11-16 13:35:22] Gekko : BTFD
[2016-11-16 13:35:23] +1 : aethlios: its unlikely?
[2016-11-16 13:35:40] aethlios : debt bubble could bust in china if exports slow because of protectionism from us and other countries. Also UK now leaving eu can make new trade deals with china and protect it's own economy
[2016-11-16 13:35:56] meh : btc is awesome for PPP
[2016-11-16 13:36:05] zanza : so is rural china farmer going to get a trezor? :)
[2016-11-16 13:36:42] meh : make ur currency forward
[2016-11-16 13:36:57] zanza : btw anyone excited for Trezor 2?
[2016-11-16 13:38:02] zanza : did bitcoinwisdom break for anyone ?
[2016-11-16 13:38:10] meh : refresh it
[2016-11-16 13:38:19] mjones : wisdom works for me
[2016-11-16 13:38:21] Gekko : Hey if your savings look like getting crushed, you get pretty creative
[2016-11-16 13:38:33] mjones : xmr close to a new low
[2016-11-16 13:38:47] mjones : and new low
[2016-11-16 13:40:23] mjones : now cryptowatch is broken
[2016-11-16 13:41:15] Guest74016 : "Also UK now leaving eu" they've been leaving for months, and looks they are trying every trick in the book to slow it down/make it not happen eventually
[2016-11-16 13:42:21] zanza : XMR was .006 recently
[2016-11-16 13:46:08] rapidtrades : bitcoin wt
[2016-11-16 13:47:14] dasdfasdf : zanza: trezor 2 should be integrated with Bitmex
[2016-11-16 13:47:29] rapidtrades : dasdfasdf: when is trezor 2 coming outt?
[2016-11-16 13:47:57] zanza : 1-3 monyhs
[2016-11-16 13:48:28] rapidtrades : bitcoin wtf u crazy coin
[2016-11-16 13:49:55] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/798849309533872128
[2016-11-16 13:49:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 13:51:28] rapidtrades : really dudes? rallying on newspaper mentions is so 2011
[2016-11-16 13:52:35] wurstgelee : nooo
[2016-11-16 13:52:39] wurstgelee : thats not all
[2016-11-16 13:52:49] wurstgelee : or not the reason i guess
[2016-11-16 13:52:51] wurstgelee : just funny ;)
[2016-11-16 13:57:32] sleger : so swap was 1$ below spot during the rally and now it is 5$ above ??
[2016-11-16 13:58:33] habibi : sleger: surprise surprise :D
[2016-11-16 14:05:18] mjones : 700 BTC in ETH support before it hits a new low
[2016-11-16 14:06:55] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 488 @ 0.009284
[2016-11-16 14:12:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1400 @ 767.65
[2016-11-16 14:12:01] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-11-16 14:17:45] jung1 : crazy
[2016-11-16 14:21:54] zanza : http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/1116/c90000-9142424.html
[2016-11-16 14:23:06] habibi : zanza: news about these are like 10 months old or older
[2016-11-16 14:23:24] jung1 : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/798849309533872128
[2016-11-16 14:23:38] wurstgelee : lol :)
[2016-11-16 14:23:53] zanza : rally over, time to go home everyone
[2016-11-16 14:24:08] habibi : tag that shit #internetexplorer
[2016-11-16 14:24:28] jung1 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/g9n4rJ0L-The-way-coup-and-handle-can-break-up/
[2016-11-16 14:32:59] arbitrage001 : oh man
[2016-11-16 14:33:05] arbitrage001 : my anal is hurt shorting btc
[2016-11-16 14:33:21] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 14:33:38] arbitrage001 : and longing zcash
[2016-11-16 14:33:46] mjones : Need some anal cream?
[2016-11-16 14:33:53] wurstgelee : probably more hurt soon if u are still short
[2016-11-16 14:33:54] arbitrage001 : mjones: sure
[2016-11-16 14:35:55] jung1 : could be hard to go under 700 this year
[2016-11-16 14:36:32] arbitrage001 : jung1: going to short more
[2016-11-16 14:37:11] wurstgelee : wtf is stamp doing?
[2016-11-16 14:37:36] wurstgelee : not much confidence there ;)
[2016-11-16 14:38:43] wurstgelee : ~$14 on a 200+ CNY move seems off
[2016-11-16 14:39:45] jung1 : Rumor has it that bitfinex needs to temporarily shut down for some minor fixes.
[2016-11-16 14:40:01] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-16 14:40:07] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 14:40:42] jung1 : okcoin hits 5499 http://i.imgur.com/9fZc8Qf.png
[2016-11-16 14:40:51] wurstgelee : fucking risk limit banners
[2016-11-16 14:43:33] jung1 : damn its still climbing
[2016-11-16 14:44:05] wurstgelee : stamp has a lot of catching up to do
[2016-11-16 14:48:12] anonymous789 : jung1: i went long at 705
[2016-11-16 14:48:29] jung1 : nice
[2016-11-16 14:48:40] jung1 : I went at 702 but closed it at 716
[2016-11-16 14:48:48] jung1 : and missed that pump
[2016-11-16 14:48:50] jung1 : : ///
[2016-11-16 14:48:54] anonymous789 : but you were telling everyone to short? lol
[2016-11-16 14:49:16] jung1 : yup
[2016-11-16 14:49:21] mjones : xbtusd gonna rekt more once bitstamp wakes up
[2016-11-16 14:49:35] jung1 : but change my mind and closed short with -10%
[2016-11-16 14:49:49] mjones : stamp $27 behind
[2016-11-16 14:51:30] anonymous789 : jung1: aah okay i went short at 721 and closed in profit at 706 and opened a long position at 705
[2016-11-16 14:51:50] anonymous789 : it broke that key downtrend on the hourly at the 705 level
[2016-11-16 14:52:15] jung1 : gratz!
[2016-11-16 14:52:49] anonymous789 : thanks i see further upside now if it breaks this key 740 and then the 750 level
[2016-11-16 14:53:10] anonymous789 : above 750 it could moon
[2016-11-16 14:54:03] jung1 : keep that long
[2016-11-16 14:54:27] jung1 : I will try to catch it around 720
[2016-11-16 14:54:43] anonymous789 : you think there is going to be some retracement at this level?
[2016-11-16 14:55:29] Rado : morning
[2016-11-16 14:55:45] jung1 : hello
[2016-11-16 14:56:26] jung1 : well it could be but seems like this guy was right https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/g9n4rJ0L-The-way-coup-and-handle-can-break-up/
[2016-11-16 14:56:36] jung1 : ahh fuck my weak hands
[2016-11-16 14:57:16] anonymous789 : yes i feel it may retrace 38% on the fibonnaci retracement levels which would mean around the 731 level, and then i think it is going higher
[2016-11-16 14:57:34] anonymous789 : will probably be looking to close my long if i see 2 confirmations of a lower high on the hourly
[2016-11-16 14:57:36] Rado : so was I
[2016-11-16 14:58:17] wurstgelee : sitting in my xbtz16 long and waiting for more to come ;)
[2016-11-16 14:59:40] Rado : wurstgelee: did you long yesterday or earlier?
[2016-11-16 14:59:50] Rado : I am selling some
[2016-11-16 14:59:53] anonymous789 : the hourly looks incredibly bullish imo though, higher lows, big volume on this recent rally
[2016-11-16 14:59:58] jung1 : 5199
[2016-11-16 15:00:02] wurstgelee : earlier ( before the fun started)
[2016-11-16 15:00:03] wurstgelee : closed
[2016-11-16 15:00:06] wurstgelee : and reopened ;)
[2016-11-16 15:00:23] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: what was your rationale to closing your long early?
[2016-11-16 15:00:40] wurstgelee : too much too fast
[2016-11-16 15:00:44] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 15:00:59] wurstgelee : big premium here etc...
[2016-11-16 15:01:02] anonymous789 : oh okay, so just gut instinct then lol
[2016-11-16 15:01:10] wurstgelee : hehe, yep :)
[2016-11-16 15:01:23] anonymous789 : i didn't close my long from 705 because the chart was still making higher lows on the hourly
[2016-11-16 15:02:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 2000 @ 771.22
[2016-11-16 15:02:16] Rado : anonymous789: isn't higher lows bulish?
[2016-11-16 15:02:22] anonymous789 : absolutely
[2016-11-16 15:02:30] Rado : then why close?
[2016-11-16 15:02:31] anonymous789 : i opened a long position at 705
[2016-11-16 15:02:32] wurstgelee : thats why he kept part of it ;)
[2016-11-16 15:02:38] anonymous789 : nah i kept all of it
[2016-11-16 15:02:40] wurstgelee : or all of it
[2016-11-16 15:02:43] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-16 15:02:49] anonymous789 : it's still open
[2016-11-16 15:02:55] anonymous789 : the chart is still making higher lows
[2016-11-16 15:02:59] Rado : anonymous789: I opened at 705 as well
[2016-11-16 15:03:01] anonymous789 : on the shorter timescales
[2016-11-16 15:03:13] anonymous789 : nice, maybe we're running a similar strategy haha
[2016-11-16 15:03:23] Rado : 849.03%
[2016-11-16 15:03:28] anonymous789 : 705 was a key level for me, as it broke the downtrend line on the hourly
[2016-11-16 15:03:33] wurstgelee : that small dump attempt was undone fast
[2016-11-16 15:03:36] anonymous789 : oh wow, i only used 5x leverage lol
[2016-11-16 15:03:53] anonymous789 : btc is way too risky to use high leverage
[2016-11-16 15:04:11] wurstgelee : it works fine for me tbh ;)
[2016-11-16 15:04:16] Rado : anonymous789: not really
[2016-11-16 15:04:22] anonymous789 : i think you have to be incredibly lucky
[2016-11-16 15:04:34] Rado : if you use stops, nothing to worry about
[2016-11-16 15:04:46] anonymous789 : i used to do that a couple years back, put ccrazy leverage on stuff then wiped my accounts
[2016-11-16 15:04:53] wurstgelee : nope, u have to consider margin call as a guaranteed stoploss
[2016-11-16 15:04:54] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 15:05:02] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 15:05:20] Rado : anonymous789: you were using too much of your balance
[2016-11-16 15:05:22] anonymous789 : yeah i can't determine stops well lol, i have no discipline so i use my liquidation price as stop loss jaja
[2016-11-16 15:05:31] anonymous789 : hah*
[2016-11-16 15:05:34] Rado : I am at 0.39x leverage
[2016-11-16 15:05:44] anonymous789 : oh okay
[2016-11-16 15:05:58] anonymous789 : yeah i am using all balance on lower leverage
[2016-11-16 15:06:17] wurstgelee : hmm.... i will tell u the amount of xbtz16 i hold and my leverage after i closed
[2016-11-16 15:06:24] wurstgelee : i fear i will anger the gods if i do now
[2016-11-16 15:06:25] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-16 15:06:27] anonymous789 : hehe
[2016-11-16 15:07:14] Rado : to bad I didn't short more alt coins
[2016-11-16 15:07:18] Rado : all of them dumped
[2016-11-16 15:07:35] anonymous789 : i try and set my leverage so that liquidation price is somewhere highly unrealistic so currently liq price is 591 which i highly doubt it will dump too lol
[2016-11-16 15:07:51] wurstgelee : i instashorted xmr and eth as btc went up
[2016-11-16 15:07:57] wurstgelee : didnt even check the price tbh
[2016-11-16 15:08:15] jung1 : http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/cf-bitcoin-reference-rate.html
[2016-11-16 15:08:15] jung1 : 711
[2016-11-16 15:08:16] jung1 : hehe'
[2016-11-16 15:08:18] Rado : anonymous789: my liq price is 216.17
[2016-11-16 15:08:31] anonymous789 : oh okay
[2016-11-16 15:08:34] Rado : but I don't want to see if that could happen so I have a stop at all times
[2016-11-16 15:08:46] Rado : so it doesn't matter where liq is
[2016-11-16 15:09:03] anonymous789 : yeah that's a good idea but i haven't got the skills to set a stop haha
[2016-11-16 15:09:05] Rado : which reminds me I have to change my stop higher
[2016-11-16 15:09:48] Rado : well you have to choose carefully
[2016-11-16 15:10:16] Rado : sometimes it will stop you out, but maybe you picked the wrong direction
[2016-11-16 15:10:19] Rado : so it's good
[2016-11-16 15:10:51] anonymous789 : the reason i gave up on stoplosses is because i lost a lot of money setting stops too tight even though i had predicted the eventual direction correctly
[2016-11-16 15:12:52] Rado : why did you set them too tight?
[2016-11-16 15:13:21] Rado : you need to consider the average move/range
[2016-11-16 15:13:58] Rado : so China is $30 higher
[2016-11-16 15:14:13] Rado : it will take a couple of days to get down to $10
[2016-11-16 15:14:15] anonymous789 : oh yea i was using the ATR to set it but i just didn't do a good job ever
[2016-11-16 15:14:51] Rado : obviously we are going to consolidate
[2016-11-16 15:15:37] Rado : I think we should revisit $725
[2016-11-16 15:16:00] anonymous789 : 718 is where the support is, 38% fib retracement puts us at 731
[2016-11-16 15:16:28] Rado : I just came up with a round number of 725
[2016-11-16 15:16:30] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-16 15:16:31] anonymous789 : so i guess if it goes lower than 731 it will go to the next fib retracement level and possibly move up unless it sets a lower high
[2016-11-16 15:16:41] anonymous789 : Rado: haha
[2016-11-16 15:16:41] Rado : will short some swap for a scalp
[2016-11-16 15:17:03] anonymous789 : i always try and have a reason for saying something haha
[2016-11-16 15:17:04] jung1 : agree with 725
[2016-11-16 15:17:53] anonymous789 : 724 is the 61% fib retracement level so you're probably right haha
[2016-11-16 15:19:54] jung1 : teamwork is better as you can see. Better to make money together
[2016-11-16 15:19:58] jung1 : one love
[2016-11-16 15:20:00] jung1 : or something
[2016-11-16 15:20:02] anonymous789 : :)
[2016-11-16 15:20:44] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-16 15:20:49] wurstgelee : lol ;)
[2016-11-16 15:20:56] Rado : specially when we are small community
[2016-11-16 15:21:12] wurstgelee : unfortunately i agree and have closed 3/4 of my long....
[2016-11-16 15:21:27] Rado : growing slowly
[2016-11-16 15:21:35] Rado : up 100 users from yesterday
[2016-11-16 15:21:54] Rado : 666 users
[2016-11-16 15:21:55] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 15:22:01] anonymous789 : i'm not smart enough to scale out of trades lol
[2016-11-16 15:22:18] wurstgelee : basically i dumped in 4 steps :p
[2016-11-16 15:22:26] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-16 15:22:51] anonymous789 : i tried that strategy in the past too, didn't work well for me lol
[2016-11-16 15:23:06] wurstgelee : now that its closed: 67.5k, 50x
[2016-11-16 15:23:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 15:23:22] jung1 : yeah its awesome here
[2016-11-16 15:23:22] anonymous789 : nice :)
[2016-11-16 15:23:25] jung1 : same people since 150 users
[2016-11-16 15:23:37] jung1 : and now we traded over 15% of bitcoin market cap
[2016-11-16 15:23:44] jung1 : its kinda cool
[2016-11-16 15:25:46] wurstgelee : yep :)
[2016-11-16 15:26:09] RocketScience : market maker abandoned the jpy 30 dec builing
[2016-11-16 15:26:19] Rado : in 13 hours funding rate will be 0.33%
[2016-11-16 15:26:20] RocketScience : quoine has gigantic spread
[2016-11-16 15:26:27] wurstgelee : Rado: yep
[2016-11-16 15:30:10] Rado : ZEC holding here
[2016-11-16 15:30:10] jung1 : but exchanges seems follow
[2016-11-16 15:30:29] Rado : this might mean that low will be somewhere between 0.07 and 0.14
[2016-11-16 15:30:51] rapidtrades : Rado: how do u plan to cashout without banks?
[2016-11-16 15:31:18] Rado : rapidtrades: cashout on what?
[2016-11-16 15:31:23] wurstgelee : Rado: yep. which makes longs from ~ .06 a great thing ;)
[2016-11-16 15:31:46] rapidtrades : Rado: profits? i thought u said ur leaving 'the system'
[2016-11-16 15:32:02] Rado : right