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[2016-11-15 23:02:43] wurstgelee : look at longer timeframe chart of zec
[2016-11-15 23:02:51] wurstgelee : it was all down until ~ 48h ago
[2016-11-15 23:03:06] wurstgelee : until then a lot of guys thought it wil drop straight toi below .1
[2016-11-15 23:03:17] wurstgelee : this thinking might have been affected by the recent hours ;)
[2016-11-15 23:04:37] BigDaddyBigDick : ya i know what it looks like man, i have a mining farm for this stuff, i buy zec shorts as insurance. But right now it seems my insurance could be next to worthless even as the spot price keeps dropping.
[2016-11-15 23:05:15] miramm1115 : the discount here was too big, it's going to get smaller and smaller as Dec. 30 approaches
[2016-11-15 23:05:52] miramm1115 : but there is almost no liquidity here, so it will jump a lot
[2016-11-15 23:05:52] BigDaddyBigDick : ya the discount has thrown me a bit of a loop to
[2016-11-15 23:06:17] wurstgelee : it was 1/3rd of polo until a few days ago
[2016-11-15 23:06:25] wurstgelee : thats just too much
[2016-11-15 23:06:53] wurstgelee : .05 here while polo was @ .15
[2016-11-15 23:07:37] javierstone : bitmex ecosystem is a weird one
[2016-11-15 23:09:51] BigDaddyBigDick : gotten to a point where i wonder if theres to many shorts on zec in big profitsand bitmex dosent wanna be paying all that out so now things get wonky.
[2016-11-15 23:11:05] lockhedge : wurstgelee: didn't you say the same when the price was 0.5 here, 2 weeks ago?
[2016-11-15 23:11:33] wurstgelee : yeah, i always said 1/3rd is too low
[2016-11-15 23:12:52] viptrader : moon
[2016-11-15 23:13:03] viptrader : rip btc shorts soon
[2016-11-15 23:13:13] miramm1115 : BigDaddyBigDick: BitMEX doesn't have to pay anything, all positions are against other traders.
[2016-11-15 23:14:23] miramm1115 : other side pays for your profits
[2016-11-15 23:14:35] wurstgelee : yep., there is nothing wonky here
[2016-11-15 23:15:21] wurstgelee : bitmex gets fees for providing us with the possibility to play greter fool with each other ;)
[2016-11-15 23:15:28] wurstgelee : *greater
[2016-11-15 23:15:43] BigDaddyBigDick : so its not just some bucket shop. Good to hear
[2016-11-15 23:15:51] wurstgelee : nope, not at all
[2016-11-15 23:16:08] wurstgelee : bitmex doesnt hold positions
[2016-11-15 23:27:03] BigDaddyBigDick : appreciate the insight.
[2016-11-15 23:28:43] wurstgelee : yw
[2016-11-15 23:30:48] rasdasd : wurstgelee: lol true that
[2016-11-15 23:31:08] wurstgelee : hm?
[2016-11-15 23:31:15] rasdasd : wurstgelee: no volume here..not sure which exchange to use with leverage
[2016-11-15 23:31:19] rasdasd : for btc
[2016-11-15 23:31:35] BitMEX_Sam : Re: BTC we're consistently #1 or #2 BTC/USD
[2016-11-15 23:31:49] wurstgelee : thats true
[2016-11-15 23:31:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 23:32:41] viptrader : BitMEX_Sam: hey, if i buy 10,000 contract at 712 and my avg entry price of all 50,000 contract is 714 would i make profit if i sell 10,000 contract at 713?
[2016-11-15 23:33:17] BitMEX_Sam : Your profit on the 10,000 you bought and sold is (713/712 * 10,000)
[2016-11-15 23:33:31] BitMEX_Sam : Less fees (or plus fee rebates) depending on if you made/took
[2016-11-15 23:34:06] viptrader : but i would make profit, regardless of my avg entry being higher?
[2016-11-15 23:34:28] BitMEX_Sam : You would make profit on that particular buy/sell pair, but your overall position would have unrealised loss
[2016-11-15 23:34:57] javierstone : did bitmex go down for anyone else?
[2016-11-15 23:35:02] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-15 23:35:17] viptrader : BitMEX_Sam: thnx
[2016-11-15 23:35:18] javierstone : weird i got disconnected never gotten that error before
[2016-11-15 23:35:35] wurstgelee : all fine here
[2016-11-15 23:37:35] BitMEX_Sam : Could be your local connection, didn't see anything here either.
[2016-11-15 23:42:33] rafa : If a trade is done where the buy and sell are done as makers, there is a net profit of 0.05% or at there any other fees?
[2016-11-15 23:43:39] BigDaddyBigDick : Just your connection, happens to me almost daily unfortunatly
[2016-11-15 23:52:45] jung1 : china is fighting
[2016-11-15 23:59:12] rapidtrades : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXfc_RBb9Lg
[2016-11-15 23:59:48] mjones : btc dump
[2016-11-16 00:00:06] rasdasd : btc break down
[2016-11-16 00:00:43] jung1 : bitcoin is dead
[2016-11-16 00:01:30] mjones : no one is fomo dumping here on xbtz16
[2016-11-16 00:01:53] javierstone : ya cuz ppl here are crazy
[2016-11-16 00:02:38] mjones : must mean the bottom is in.100x long time
[2016-11-16 00:02:57] javierstone : do it
[2016-11-16 00:04:20] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: hey sam. can you add a preference to disable notifications for order amend?
[2016-11-16 00:05:35] javierstone : something crazy is going on in china
[2016-11-16 00:05:45] javierstone : $2 USD spread between the three main exchanges
[2016-11-16 00:06:24] javierstone : i'm gonna trust BTCC
[2016-11-16 00:07:14] laisee : usually something crazy going on China w.r.t crypto ccys
[2016-11-16 00:07:39] javierstone : ?
[2016-11-16 00:07:48] javierstone : don't know the last part of what u said
[2016-11-16 00:08:14] laisee : w.r.t. == related to crypto currencies
[2016-11-16 00:08:56] javierstone : k and what does ccys mean
[2016-11-16 00:09:07] javierstone : ah nvm i got it
[2016-11-16 00:10:34] javierstone : BTCC just hit 4920
[2016-11-16 00:11:03] rasdasd : too bad..I wanted to see ATH before new year
[2016-11-16 00:11:22] jung1 : still possible
[2016-11-16 00:12:26] javierstone : 4915...
[2016-11-16 00:15:34] javierstone : i wonder if it'll break below 4900
[2016-11-16 00:16:09] jung1 : will be great
[2016-11-16 00:19:45] lockhedge : okc quarterlies frozen at 5000
[2016-11-16 00:20:29] rapidtrades : lockhedge: y
[2016-11-16 00:20:40] javierstone : smell some incoming rekt longs
[2016-11-16 00:20:44] rapidtrades : SELL SELL SELL
[2016-11-16 00:24:03] Rekted : this dump is so weird
[2016-11-16 00:24:12] javierstone : why
[2016-11-16 00:24:18] Rekted : he is slow, he let you suffering
[2016-11-16 00:24:30] javierstone : lol
[2016-11-16 00:24:40] javierstone : he's a real son of a bitch
[2016-11-16 00:24:55] Rekted : yes but i keep hope
[2016-11-16 00:28:32] rapidtrades : Rekted: f*ck off imposter
[2016-11-16 00:29:18] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You got it, I'll add it to our list
[2016-11-16 00:30:06] javierstone : lol
[2016-11-16 00:32:08] Rekted : rapidtrades: ?
[2016-11-16 00:33:18] Rekted : be more respectfull dude, i will take your money
[2016-11-16 00:36:27] rapidtrades : Rekted: how so faggit?
[2016-11-16 00:36:58] rapidtrades : btw u can't take my money I already gave em to your mom last night
[2016-11-16 00:37:11] rapidtrades : for services rendered
[2016-11-16 00:38:15] Rekted : rapidtrades: ahah
[2016-11-16 00:38:23] Rekted : my mom is dead
[2016-11-16 00:38:25] Rekted : :'(
[2016-11-16 00:38:57] Rekted : are you necrophile?
[2016-11-16 00:39:27] j8 : :thumbsup: @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-11-16 00:39:40] Rekted : necrophilic
[2016-11-16 00:43:50] jung1 : what a boring dump
[2016-11-16 00:47:56] rapidtrades : I fear that this whole space is gonna crumble
[2016-11-16 00:53:53] miramm1115 : definitely, ozone layer will disappear and all computers will get fried, along with humans of course
[2016-11-16 00:54:33] miramm1115 : only blockchain will live forever :-)
[2016-11-16 00:56:05] j8 : we may have to sha-256 hash by hand in the post-nuclear world, but at least it'll create jobs
[2016-11-16 00:56:35] rapidtrades : government jobs no doubt
[2016-11-16 00:56:54] miramm1115 : confirmation times will increase to 10+ years though
[2016-11-16 00:57:16] javierstone : rapidtrades: what do u mean ?
[2016-11-16 00:57:50] jung1 : miramm1115: If something looks stupid but it works, its not stupid
[2016-11-16 00:59:05] miramm1115 : I never said that bitcoin looks stupid but blockchain hype is a bit over the top
[2016-11-16 00:59:24] jung1 : "confirmation times will increase to 10+ years though "
[2016-11-16 00:59:49] jung1 : imo its not on the top yet
[2016-11-16 00:59:52] miramm1115 : it was a reply to j8's "we may have to sha-256 hash by hand"
[2016-11-16 01:00:04] jung1 : blockchain hype will be same as dotcom one
[2016-11-16 01:00:14] jung1 : yeah I know
[2016-11-16 01:00:21] jung1 : so it will work
[2016-11-16 01:00:25] jung1 : ")
[2016-11-16 01:01:44] miramm1115 : I will just barter gun ammunition for spam cans, it's a bit faster ;-)
[2016-11-16 01:03:59] javierstone : china not bouncing os much
[2016-11-16 01:05:01] jung1 : not dumping also
[2016-11-16 01:05:50] javierstone : soon
[2016-11-16 01:06:05] javierstone : there we go
[2016-11-16 01:06:43] javierstone : breaking 4920 soon
[2016-11-16 01:06:48] jung1 : there should be at least 30y not 3
[2016-11-16 01:07:04] jung1 : btcc already break it
[2016-11-16 01:07:23] jung1 : hour ago
[2016-11-16 01:09:57] javierstone : its slow as shit in here today
[2016-11-16 01:11:45] jung1 : I hope that i worth to wait
[2016-11-16 01:12:37] jung1 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd shorts increase on finex
[2016-11-16 01:14:32] lockhedge : miramm1115: Bitfinex style security will soon protect nuke codes http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/10/bitcoin-style-security-may-soon-guard-us-nukes-and-satellites/132235/
[2016-11-16 01:15:14] lockhedge : maybe more secure than one single key in the hands (head) of president trump
[2016-11-16 01:22:45] martinium : China just devalued some more
[2016-11-16 01:22:56] javierstone : when
[2016-11-16 01:25:00] miramm1115 : lockhedge: that's a scary thought
[2016-11-16 01:27:06] jung1 : 15% more shorts on finex in last 10min
[2016-11-16 01:29:31] jung1 : anoher 2% more
[2016-11-16 01:29:39] viptrader : CNY just got rekt, bitcoin moon in 3,2...........
[2016-11-16 01:29:45] viptrader : longgggggggggggggggg
[2016-11-16 01:30:49] sleger : usd is due for a retrace though
[2016-11-16 01:35:23] jung1 : ah fck it Im out
[2016-11-16 01:35:27] jung1 : closed my short
[2016-11-16 01:35:44] jung1 : now it will fall
[2016-11-16 01:42:57] viptrader : check news
[2016-11-16 01:43:25] viptrader : hina weakens yuan fixing rate to 6.8592 vs 6.8495 yesterday. Weakest since 2008 and 9th consecutive day weakening - most in 11-months.
[2016-11-16 01:43:30] viptrader : moon time for btc
[2016-11-16 01:43:53] Apocalyptic : where's our China devaluation report tonight ?
[2016-11-16 01:47:37] jung1 : viptrader: link?
[2016-11-16 01:48:51] sleger : jung1: google.com
[2016-11-16 01:48:58] jung1 : we should have some chinese insider here
[2016-11-16 01:49:19] jung1 : sleger: what's that page? I do not know that
[2016-11-16 01:49:31] sleger : i figured that part out months ago
[2016-11-16 02:07:11] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY central rate at 6.8592 (vs. yesterday at 6.8495)
[2016-11-16 02:07:38] rapidtrades : oh i see smone already posted it...then why are u complaining? @Apocalyptic
[2016-11-16 02:07:52] jung1 : so moon time?
[2016-11-16 02:08:00] sleger : we dont believe anyone else but you @rapidtrades
[2016-11-16 02:08:25] rapidtrades : offshore yuan now at 6.8781, below the fix
[2016-11-16 02:08:47] rapidtrades : or above if looking at it as usd/cnh
[2016-11-16 02:09:42] rapidtrades : if bitcoin isn't going up on this devaluation, it will go down once they stop
[2016-11-16 02:10:44] rapidtrades : 1.5% loss for Yuan this month while only 0.3% gain for BTC
[2016-11-16 02:12:07] rapidtrades : i guess u gotta factor in the fact that's priced in USD....against CNY it's up more
[2016-11-16 02:13:21] jung1 : its seems like its not big correlation with cny/btc price
[2016-11-16 02:13:50] rapidtrades : nah just did the math and in china it's up 0.25% since nov1, so same thing
[2016-11-16 02:14:37] rapidtrades : jung1: the bitcoin volatility should trump any USD or CNY effect in the long run
[2016-11-16 02:15:06] rapidtrades : right now the USD/CNY is down by only 4.5% this year, after constant devaluation
[2016-11-16 02:15:50] rapidtrades : currencies just don't move as much as crypto
[2016-11-16 02:19:04] rapidtrades : there was strong correlation during october but after that ban report things have changed
[2016-11-16 02:20:40] Rado : temporary
[2016-11-16 02:20:49] Rado : soon it will be back to normal
[2016-11-16 02:21:01] Rado : governments want to slow down the bitcoin adoption
[2016-11-16 02:21:10] Rado : so they just bark, but no actual action
[2016-11-16 02:21:42] javierstone : dropping
[2016-11-16 02:23:03] javierstone : china gonna dip below 4900
[2016-11-16 02:27:49] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: we posted almost at the same time, didn't see his message
[2016-11-16 02:32:38] jung1 : it just wont dump
[2016-11-16 02:36:09] javierstone : they are just waking up jung1
[2016-11-16 02:37:26] Apocalyptic : jung1: my thoughts exactly on ZEC
[2016-11-16 02:42:23] jung1 : who put that buy order at 709.02?
[2016-11-16 02:42:40] rapidtrades : sleger
[2016-11-16 02:46:55] jung1 : some big whales are playing games
[2016-11-16 02:58:32] javierstone : ya its very strange how china is dropping and other markets araen't responding
[2016-11-16 02:58:54] jose : china is not dropping, btw
[2016-11-16 02:59:28] javierstone : ya?
[2016-11-16 02:59:31] javierstone : where u seeing that
[2016-11-16 03:00:57] jose : on chinese futures, no movement at all
[2016-11-16 03:37:06] Rado : Money management is job #1 for a trader - Peter Brandt
[2016-11-16 03:41:42] Rado : someone is selling 3000 contracts t 7202.50
[2016-11-16 03:41:50] Rado : I wish he gets filled :-)
[2016-11-16 03:52:24] QuantFocus : Rado: you sure he's into that?
[2016-11-16 03:52:40] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 03:52:42] Rado : I am
[2016-11-16 03:53:07] QuantFocus : :smile:
[2016-11-16 03:53:19] Rado : he is going to have an orgazm if that trade happens
[2016-11-16 03:53:29] QuantFocus : via prostate
[2016-11-16 03:53:33] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 03:54:43] QuantFocus : the best kind, amirite?
[2016-11-16 03:56:15] QuantFocus : too far, sorry
[2016-11-16 05:27:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 3 @ 0.003021
[2016-11-16 06:29:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7 @ 713.18
[2016-11-16 06:36:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 180 @ 713.57
[2016-11-16 06:49:25] bernx : cross margin
[2016-11-16 06:49:28] bernx : it's x100 or?
[2016-11-16 07:25:43] meh : dynamic
[2016-11-16 07:35:36] Apocalyptic : bernx: cross margin is whatever your balance can handle
[2016-11-16 07:48:13] CapitalGains : Is there a mod around?
[2016-11-16 07:52:45] j8 : you have to say "admin" three times to summon them. caps work best
[2016-11-16 07:56:02] BitMEX_Jinming : CapitalGains: Hi
[2016-11-16 07:57:27] CapitalGains : BitMEX_Jinming: Hi, I just wanted to ask about liquidation - if you hover over the red "liq price" it says that a hedging product like XBU will be liquidated incrementally - is this the XBT USD perpetual swap?
[2016-11-16 07:58:30] BitMEX_Jinming : CapitalGains: This product is not available any more. We will update the hover message.
[2016-11-16 07:58:55] CapitalGains : Ah. Thanks for clarifying. So all products will be liquidated immediately.
[2016-11-16 08:00:12] BitMEX_Jinming : CapitalGains: Yes. However, if you are on higher risk limit, there will also be incremental liquidations. Details: https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation
[2016-11-16 08:00:35] BitMEX_Jinming : https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation#Users-on-Higher-Risk-Limit-tiers
[2016-11-16 08:01:32] CapitalGains : Thanks
[2016-11-16 08:17:30] rasdasd : That fake bear dump tonight..well played
[2016-11-16 08:43:41] rapidtrades : rasdasd: u were saying?
[2016-11-16 08:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 31466 @ 712.47 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 09:03:26] jpc : REKT: crazy leverage
[2016-11-16 09:06:05] rapidtrades : yeah REKT is pretty crazy
[2016-11-16 09:53:37] laisee : REKT is the Donald. He has Billions to lose.
[2016-11-16 10:19:24] msadigbo : hi y'all
[2016-11-16 10:46:54] zanza : so what happens this Friday when SegWit starts signalling
[2016-11-16 10:47:03] zanza : and ViaBTC/Bitcoin.com block it ?
[2016-11-16 10:47:09] meh : nothing happens
[2016-11-16 10:47:14] wurstgelee : its a 2 month signaling period
[2016-11-16 10:47:20] wurstgelee : nothing happens
[2016-11-16 10:47:37] zanza : the market will see that SegWit is being blocked
[2016-11-16 10:47:48] zanza : and maybe shit the bed
[2016-11-16 10:48:24] wurstgelee : they cant block it alone
[2016-11-16 10:48:26] wurstgelee : not for long
[2016-11-16 10:49:10] meh : zanza short and scared huh? ^^
[2016-11-16 10:49:17] zanza : im not short
[2016-11-16 10:49:21] zanza : just holding
[2016-11-16 10:49:21] wurstgelee : it wont be activated after 2 months tho...
[2016-11-16 10:49:23] wurstgelee : 1 /Satoshi:0.13.1/ 1508 (28.30%)
[2016-11-16 10:49:27] wurstgelee : still not bad
[2016-11-16 10:49:42] meh : fastest adoption till today afaik
[2016-11-16 10:49:45] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 10:50:05] zanza : Blockstream/Core has $80M invested in SegWit tho
[2016-11-16 10:50:14] wurstgelee : didnt update my node that fast until 0.13.1 tbh
[2016-11-16 10:50:16] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-16 10:50:17] zanza : this will get ugly fast
[2016-11-16 10:51:18] zanza : actually if there is a price crash, and everyone is blaming it on ViaBTC, they will probably cave to pressure
[2016-11-16 10:51:23] meh : blockstream offers solutions like bloq does, or redhat if you need another comparison, your 80m segwit investment makes no sense
[2016-11-16 10:52:09] meh : also BS != Core
[2016-11-16 10:52:10] zanza : it really makes no sense for the to push settlement layer so hard, if their business model wasn't critical on it
[2016-11-16 10:53:05] wurstgelee : btw, i made some buys visible @ zec, feel free to short ;)
[2016-11-16 10:53:09] meh : as i said BS != Core, and they dont push anybody, if segwit isn't activated after (afaik) 1 yr it gets droped and nodes forget about it
[2016-11-16 10:53:22] meh : afaik core even offered a 13.1 without segwit
[2016-11-16 10:53:22] meh : lol
[2016-11-16 10:53:35] zanza : Blockstream has like 75% of Core on payroll ?
[2016-11-16 10:53:46] zanza : including the big leader bosses
[2016-11-16 10:55:22] zanza : idk, I guess SegWit will most likely pass
[2016-11-16 10:55:39] zanza : I'm not a fan, but if 95% signals then that is it
[2016-11-16 10:55:42] wurstgelee : yep, same guess here
[2016-11-16 10:56:01] zanza : im not calling for fork like some extremists on /r/btc
[2016-11-16 10:56:14] zanza : (ie separate coin)
[2016-11-16 10:56:39] zanza : but the /r/Bitcoin censorship is very troubling, the community is very fragmented in a bad way
[2016-11-16 10:57:10] wurstgelee : i stay away from bitcoin related reddit
[2016-11-16 10:57:19] wurstgelee : so much anger and fud...
[2016-11-16 10:57:21] meh : i do favor a fork, i get 1x my BTC holdings + 1x fork BTC holding (which i'd dump for "corecoins") ^^
[2016-11-16 10:57:41] wurstgelee : shortsighted imo
[2016-11-16 10:58:13] wurstgelee : two bitcoins are not better than 1 bitcoin =)
[2016-11-16 10:59:10] meh : imo there will be only one BTC after a fork ^^ rogers altcoin is worthless to me (if they fork away)
[2016-11-16 11:00:10] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 11:00:34] wurstgelee : roger should just fck off and stop annoying everyone
[2016-11-16 11:01:01] wurstgelee : he'd like to be crowned king of bitcoin so much....
[2016-11-16 11:01:20] meh : haha totally
[2016-11-16 11:01:45] laisee : good to fork and resolve the issue properly, debate has gone on for years
[2016-11-16 11:01:55] wurstgelee : in other things, 4969
[2016-11-16 11:02:19] zanza : at least /r/btc doesn't have censorship
[2016-11-16 11:03:31] wurstgelee : zec will have another round of pumping fun
[2016-11-16 11:03:37] laisee : agree. strange that permissionless currency has such string attempts to control debate & ideas from some
[2016-11-16 11:03:39] wurstgelee : starting now probably
[2016-11-16 11:03:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 11:04:05] laisee : wurstgelee: cool, I'll buy that for a $ :-)
[2016-11-16 11:04:14] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 11:07:26] wurstgelee : first time i bought zec @ spot
[2016-11-16 11:10:24] meh : zec would be awesome but 20% cut is a nogo for a lot of ppl =/
[2016-11-16 11:11:02] wurstgelee : part of that is vc money, basically the same as icos...
[2016-11-16 11:11:12] wurstgelee : people dont have a problem with that
[2016-11-16 11:11:19] wurstgelee : and icos are usually 100% pre-bought
[2016-11-16 11:11:29] wurstgelee : doesnt make sense imo
[2016-11-16 11:11:31] meh : sure, also ICOs are a nogo for a lot of ppl id say
[2016-11-16 11:11:36] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 11:12:27] wurstgelee : apparently an order of ~ 50 zec is enough to push the prize around @ polo
[2016-11-16 11:12:29] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 11:15:19] zanza : ZEC also impossible to verify total money supply
[2016-11-16 11:15:36] wurstgelee : by design
[2016-11-16 11:15:58] zanza : so its not really trustless
[2016-11-16 11:17:19] wurstgelee : it is.
[2016-11-16 11:17:49] wurstgelee : u trust the code, not the chain ;)
[2016-11-16 11:18:05] wurstgelee : regarding supply ofc
[2016-11-16 11:19:26] meh : the code says, if u get all keys of all signers for the initial setup you can create as much coins as you'd like (imo very small odds, but still (peter todd is 95% confident ^^)
[2016-11-16 11:19:37] laisee : meh: no need to pay 20% if u can compile code
[2016-11-16 11:19:57] meh : yeah but thats another chain ^^
[2016-11-16 11:20:07] laisee : no, same chain
[2016-11-16 11:20:14] wurstgelee : meh: yeah, that peter todd roadtrip story was great
[2016-11-16 11:20:34] meh : its an altcoin bruh @laisee
[2016-11-16 11:20:47] wurstgelee : setup is trustworthy imo. enough for me at least ;)
[2016-11-16 11:21:28] zanza : why not just use Monero ?
[2016-11-16 11:21:43] meh : sure, its just smalltalk haha
[2016-11-16 11:23:17] wurstgelee : sure, monero is fine.
[2016-11-16 11:23:43] wurstgelee : i just think there is more money to be made with zec in the near future ;)
[2016-11-16 11:23:51] wurstgelee : i am a profit whore
[2016-11-16 11:23:52] zanza : :D
[2016-11-16 11:24:43] wurstgelee : altho monero is basically a tumbler, right?
[2016-11-16 11:25:05] wurstgelee : less secure/anon than zcash z tx
[2016-11-16 11:25:11] laisee : thats the main use of the cryptonote derivs, ya
[2016-11-16 11:26:19] meh : all cryptonote coins cant scale by design afaik
[2016-11-16 11:26:33] meh : dunno about zcash
[2016-11-16 11:27:20] wurstgelee : probably all shit. please sell ;)
[2016-11-16 11:27:25] meh : hahaha
[2016-11-16 11:27:30] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 11:27:42] laisee : sell when low, buy when high ... thx
[2016-11-16 11:27:48] meh : x)
[2016-11-16 11:28:18] laisee : and know that ur supporting the speculation economy when u do ... :-/
[2016-11-16 11:28:22] wurstgelee : 90 for grab. great offer, much $$$. sell, sell!
[2016-11-16 12:12:51] wurstgelee : can we stop the teasing and go for 5k now please?
[2016-11-16 12:16:15] wurstgelee : we cant oO
[2016-11-16 12:16:18] meh : if so i may go full retard, imo ~5-5,2k is the top for now (disclosure: atm short obv)
[2016-11-16 12:16:43] wurstgelee : longed some xbtz16 earlier
[2016-11-16 12:17:00] wurstgelee : i agree with the full retard tho
[2016-11-16 12:17:07] meh : :D
[2016-11-16 12:20:36] wurstgelee : oh......
[2016-11-16 12:21:11] rasdasd : Iam gonna fomo buy if it breaks 5000
[2016-11-16 12:22:04] wurstgelee : this is gonna be funny, a lot of people will probably...
[2016-11-16 12:23:04] mjones : Btc moon
[2016-11-16 12:23:17] mjones : Shorts get rekt
[2016-11-16 12:23:17] wurstgelee : wait for 5k please
[2016-11-16 12:23:29] mjones : 5185 to be exact
[2016-11-16 12:24:30] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-11-16 12:24:34] wurstgelee : YAY
[2016-11-16 12:24:37] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 12:24:38] wurstgelee : 5050
[2016-11-16 12:24:39] wurstgelee : wtf
[2016-11-16 12:24:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21900 @ 716.11 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 12:24:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 450 @ 716.32
[2016-11-16 12:24:54] mjones : there we go
[2016-11-16 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 22500 @ 717.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 74077 @ 743.18 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-16 12:24:58] Rekted : Look my name
[2016-11-16 12:25:00] wurstgelee : and HOW we go
[2016-11-16 12:25:02] wurstgelee : fuck
[2016-11-16 12:25:07] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-11-16 12:25:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 717.94
[2016-11-16 12:25:09] rasdasd : lol this short squeeze
[2016-11-16 12:25:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4300 @ 718.37
[2016-11-16 12:25:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25 @ 719.11
[2016-11-16 12:25:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 718.86
[2016-11-16 12:25:40] wurstgelee : insta-short all alts
[2016-11-16 12:26:30] wurstgelee : werks for XMR ;)
[2016-11-16 12:26:38] wurstgelee : also eth
[2016-11-16 12:26:43] wurstgelee : excellent ;)
[2016-11-16 12:26:56] mjones : xmr almost new low
[2016-11-16 12:27:01] mjones : 5061 cny
[2016-11-16 12:27:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5000 @ 720.60
[2016-11-16 12:27:07] wurstgelee : i shorted
[2016-11-16 12:27:08] rasdasd : fomo here we go
[2016-11-16 12:27:10] wurstgelee : obv
[2016-11-16 12:27:15] rasdasd : 5000 break up
[2016-11-16 12:27:19] mjones : yeah short alts if you missed btc pump
[2016-11-16 12:27:25] wurstgelee : mjones: both :D
[2016-11-16 12:28:03] mjones : 5185 come on
[2016-11-16 12:28:09] anonymous789 : so glad i went long btc at 705, appears that technical analysis works quite well in this market
[2016-11-16 12:28:22] wurstgelee : anonymous789: sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt
[2016-11-16 12:28:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 12:28:37] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: always the case right lol
[2016-11-16 12:28:38] rasdasd : 730 test
[2016-11-16 12:28:43] anonymous789 : but this one worked out to a T
[2016-11-16 12:28:46] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-16 12:29:05] wurstgelee : eth and xmr, please die
[2016-11-16 12:29:05] mjones : surprised more didnt get rekt
[2016-11-16 12:30:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 690 @ 721.99
[2016-11-16 12:30:54] anonymous789 : mjones: technical analysis suggests btc is going higher, next 'weak' resistance at around the 730 mark
[2016-11-16 12:30:58] wurstgelee : xmr made a new low...
[2016-11-16 12:31:22] anonymous789 : if it breaks that then it has to break 740 with force to continue the uptrend
[2016-11-16 12:32:12] Yuppie : Can somebody explain to me why there is an annualised 25% funding rate for BTC longd and vice versa carry for shorts?
[2016-11-16 12:32:19] anonymous789 : and would expect very strong resistance at the 750 level
[2016-11-16 12:32:32] Yuppie : Is this merely market expectation?
[2016-11-16 12:32:49] mjones : xbtz16 hasnt been this high in a week
[2016-11-16 12:33:01] mjones : china new high
[2016-11-16 12:33:11] mjones : 100 cny away from dragging everyone to the moon
[2016-11-16 12:34:10] rasdasd : lol shorts are getting rekt..finex pushing up as well
[2016-11-16 12:40:21] mjones : only 1500 BTC short on btc/usd on bitfinex
[2016-11-16 12:41:28] meh : boojaaa
[2016-11-16 12:41:35] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 12:43:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 723.68
[2016-11-16 12:43:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 150 @ 723.80
[2016-11-16 12:43:32] wurstgelee : weeeeeeeeeee
[2016-11-16 12:43:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1052 @ 0.013940
[2016-11-16 12:43:42] meh : haha ^^, has to break 5150 now on sic volume, my full retard level x)
[2016-11-16 12:43:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 725.67
[2016-11-16 12:44:05] wurstgelee : i am already bals deep into this, enough retard level ;)
[2016-11-16 12:44:07] thomaskikansha : omg
[2016-11-16 12:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.013890
[2016-11-16 12:44:22] wurstgelee : altho i might still add some retardiation any minute oO
[2016-11-16 12:44:27] anonymous789 : how does the pricing source work on xbtusd? says the source is kaiko, but kaiko says btc at 730, but on here the spot is 726?
[2016-11-16 12:44:30] meh : haha gl man
[2016-11-16 12:45:16] wurstgelee : holy f....
[2016-11-16 12:45:24] thomaskikansha : year high?
[2016-11-16 12:45:26] wurstgelee : meh: your level is down
[2016-11-16 12:45:27] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-16 12:45:28] mjones : we did it
[2016-11-16 12:45:30] mjones : 6000 CNY next stop
[2016-11-16 12:45:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 131907 @ 766.78 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-16 12:45:40] rasdasd : wow
[2016-11-16 12:46:04] thomaskikansha : 5500 OH NO
[2016-11-16 12:46:05] wurstgelee : 5400?
[2016-11-16 12:46:10] wurstgelee : did that just happen?
[2016-11-16 12:46:15] mjones : gotta make sure i dont get adl
[2016-11-16 12:46:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6716 @ 732.46
[2016-11-16 12:46:23] mjones : yeah no sell orders up here in okcoin
[2016-11-16 12:46:29] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-16 12:46:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.009738
[2016-11-16 12:46:33] wurstgelee : awesome
[2016-11-16 12:46:37] mjones : 600 BTC to 5440 CNY
[2016-11-16 12:46:39] anonymous789 : this needs to break 750 to moon
[2016-11-16 12:46:44] mjones : someone close so i dont get adl
[2016-11-16 12:46:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 225 @ 735.31
[2016-11-16 12:47:00] wurstgelee : i am pretty close to adl everywhere i guess
[2016-11-16 12:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.002887
[2016-11-16 12:47:06] wurstgelee : xmr, eth, xbtz16...
[2016-11-16 12:47:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 410 @ 737.47
[2016-11-16 12:47:47] meh : holding a risky short here lol
[2016-11-16 12:47:56] wurstgelee : meh: btc?
[2016-11-16 12:47:57] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 12:48:03] mjones : maybe i should have closed and shorted O_O
[2016-11-16 12:48:33] meh : yeah, nothing big, still considering to top up, waiting for the volume
[2016-11-16 12:48:48] thomaskikansha : short with tight stop then its ok
[2016-11-16 12:49:01] wurstgelee : after it spiked to 5400?
[2016-11-16 12:49:04] anonymous789 : key resistance area right here
[2016-11-16 12:49:04] rasdasd : I lost 50% in 5 mins lol
[2016-11-16 12:49:07] wurstgelee : i wont....not suicidal
[2016-11-16 12:49:07] ytaews : is this because of brexit
[2016-11-16 12:49:08] rasdasd : short from 230 with 50x
[2016-11-16 12:49:27] JamesPolo : Fuck
[2016-11-16 12:50:42] JamesPolo : Mega rekt shorting at 715
[2016-11-16 12:50:52] xzsd : where from this mark price of MONERO?
[2016-11-16 12:51:06] sleger : and the swap has a ... discount ???
[2016-11-16 12:51:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 16020 @ 738.31
[2016-11-16 12:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 284 @ 739.26
[2016-11-16 12:51:52] wurstgelee : sleger: yep..
[2016-11-16 12:52:13] sleger : i put it back where it belongs
[2016-11-16 12:52:17] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-16 12:52:33] wurstgelee : i missed the swap train
[2016-11-16 12:52:44] wurstgelee : had a ticket on the z16 tho
[2016-11-16 12:52:46] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 12:53:13] rasdasd : 750 here we go
[2016-11-16 12:53:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.013670
[2016-11-16 12:53:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 80 @ 0.013650
[2016-11-16 12:53:26] Gomezpl : to the moon 800 today
[2016-11-16 12:53:38] anonymous789 : let's see what happens at 750
[2016-11-16 12:53:44] mjones : why is eth so low here. lol
[2016-11-16 12:53:56] rasdasd : wooww finex
[2016-11-16 12:54:26] anonymous789 : the RSI on the daily still isn't completely overbought
[2016-11-16 12:54:33] anonymous789 : suggesting there is still fairly significant upside
[2016-11-16 12:55:07] anonymous789 : btc tends to go way into the overbought levels before it corrects so this is going to be interesting
[2016-11-16 12:55:13] thomaskikansha : finex still $20 lower from China
[2016-11-16 12:55:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 80000 @ 0.00001053
[2016-11-16 12:55:41] mjones : my app says okcoin hit 5499 CNY and bitcoinwisdom says 5399 CNY
[2016-11-16 12:56:32] habibi : http://prntscr.com/d7z4aw
[2016-11-16 12:58:33] mjones : holy shit. no wonder there wasnt much for sale up there. someone bought everything
[2016-11-16 12:58:58] mjones : props to whoever has the BTC to spare to knock the price down and sell some for much less
[2016-11-16 12:58:58] sleger : and it is going back up there
[2016-11-16 12:59:01] rasdasd : yep he is holding up the price..but I think we are gonna retrace to 730 before next move
[2016-11-16 13:00:38] mjones : cryptowatch broke. no wonder eth price is different on polo
[2016-11-16 13:01:36] mjones : bitfinex $10 away from new high
[2016-11-16 13:02:52] mjones : and 0kcoin market maker is back. lets see what happens
[2016-11-16 13:03:16] rasdasd : ah finex going back
[2016-11-16 13:05:32] BitMEX_Arthur : I can only imagine what will happen if USDCNH breaks 6.90 tonight
[2016-11-16 13:05:42] messiaen8844 : USD strong :)
[2016-11-16 13:06:11] mjones : i refreshed bitcoinwisdom and now china orderbook depth counts by 50 instead of 20. boo
[2016-11-16 13:06:24] rasdasd : good chance to short btc
[2016-11-16 13:09:23] aethlios : we will buy cheao 0.003 monero when btc 1200
[2016-11-16 13:09:54] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Arthur: seems possible during US market period
[2016-11-16 13:10:06] chromaticcr1 : #makeItRain
[2016-11-16 13:11:41] Gekko : Chinese are pushing CNY down as much as they can before Trumpster gets in in January
[2016-11-16 13:12:09] Rekted : Gekko: we saw that
[2016-11-16 13:12:23] Rekted : nice dump bro !
[2016-11-16 13:12:44] Gekko : so expect alot more between now and then!
[2016-11-16 13:13:17] meh : maybe a triple top around ~750? anyone? ^^
[2016-11-16 13:13:41] Gekko : buy the dips
[2016-11-16 13:14:07] meh : short the top x)
[2016-11-16 13:14:30] rasdasd : risky to short here...if we are about to reach new ATH..its not over yet
[2016-11-16 13:14:49] Rekted : rasdasd: no pain no gain
[2016-11-16 13:15:03] Gekko : will trade 735, then 770
[2016-11-16 13:15:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 4410 @ 0.001254
[2016-11-16 13:15:58] rasdasd : havent seen this 5200 support in china for a long time
[2016-11-16 13:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.001251
[2016-11-16 13:19:50] mjones : zec almost new low
[2016-11-16 13:21:03] Gekko : Altcoins are cabbage at moment, just like EM Currencies. Crypto flight to quality
[2016-11-16 13:22:26] mjones : damn guess i should have closed and shorted into that megarekt wall
[2016-11-16 13:22:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3000 @ 766.25
[2016-11-16 13:22:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 22 @ 768.73
[2016-11-16 13:23:23] Gekko : buy the pullback, if CNY keeps going 800 is a chip shot from here
[2016-11-16 13:23:39] zanza : who would just place huge market order like that ?
[2016-11-16 13:23:50] zanza : manipulator
[2016-11-16 13:23:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.013850
[2016-11-16 13:25:02] rasdasd : finex 734
[2016-11-16 13:25:09] rasdasd : 730 now
[2016-11-16 13:25:56] mjones : yeah. damn bitfinex. always a rally killer
[2016-11-16 13:28:57] zanza : nice premium
[2016-11-16 13:29:45] zanza : i would short this now if i was playing
[2016-11-16 13:29:56] zanza : premium + funding coming your way
[2016-11-16 13:30:52] rasdasd : china dumping now