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[2016-11-15 19:10:15] wurstgelee : i have been saying .3 isnt ikmpossible @ dec 30 every since it was launched here
[2016-11-15 19:10:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 19:10:17] zcashequalslambo : at this price
[2016-11-15 19:10:18] zcashequalslambo : XD
[2016-11-15 19:10:20] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-15 19:10:24] wurstgelee : i am already long
[2016-11-15 19:10:37] wurstgelee : i never habe been not @ zec
[2016-11-15 19:10:43] wurstgelee : since launch
[2016-11-15 19:10:47] wurstgelee : *have
[2016-11-15 19:11:39] rapidtrades : ZEC RULES
[2016-11-15 19:11:49] rapidtrades : LONG ONLY NEVER SHORT
[2016-11-15 19:12:00] wurstgelee : *not yet :p
[2016-11-15 19:17:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 16580 @ 716.19
[2016-11-15 19:26:31] jung1 : ok I closed my yesterdays 704 long
[2016-11-15 19:26:35] jung1 : we can fall guys
[2016-11-15 19:29:06] sleger : you were short yesterday stop lying
[2016-11-15 19:29:07] wurstgelee : that zec mm @ polo is an artist ;)
[2016-11-15 19:29:14] jung1 : yep
[2016-11-15 19:29:24] jung1 : closed it on 12% loss
[2016-11-15 19:31:46] zcashequalslambo : wtf
[2016-11-15 19:31:48] wurstgelee : new high ;)
[2016-11-15 19:31:49] zcashequalslambo : 0.2?
[2016-11-15 19:32:11] zcashequalslambo : it just broke last high
[2016-11-15 19:32:17] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 19:32:28] wurstgelee : 20:29 - wurstgelee: that zec mm @ polo is an artist ?
[2016-11-15 19:32:32] wurstgelee : to self-quote me
[2016-11-15 19:33:49] wurstgelee : needs a convincing new high tho, .19 maybe
[2016-11-15 19:34:18] zcashequalslambo : some whale should go there
[2016-11-15 19:34:21] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 19:34:48] wurstgelee : as soon as it gets close to .186 a lot of asks pop up
[2016-11-15 19:34:52] wurstgelee : and buy support goes down
[2016-11-15 19:34:56] wurstgelee : and vice versa ;)
[2016-11-15 19:35:23] jung1 : you trade manual or with bot?
[2016-11-15 19:35:27] wurstgelee : manual
[2016-11-15 19:35:32] zcashequalslambo : funny thing that zec is up 50% of yesterday low
[2016-11-15 19:35:52] wurstgelee : it looks pretty much like a whale is draining ZEC
[2016-11-15 19:35:57] wurstgelee : should have a massive market share by now
[2016-11-15 19:36:36] zcashequalslambo : meh
[2016-11-15 19:36:42] zcashequalslambo : manyu new sells came
[2016-11-15 19:37:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 19:37:04] wurstgelee : like i just said
[2016-11-15 19:37:12] wurstgelee : waid till it drops a little below .18
[2016-11-15 19:37:14] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 19:37:35] wurstgelee : sells will vanish....buys pop up
[2016-11-15 19:37:48] jung1 : yeah
[2016-11-15 19:37:53] jung1 : 4d chart looks pretty
[2016-11-15 19:37:57] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 19:38:19] wurstgelee : it wont just die down from here...
[2016-11-15 19:38:42] wurstgelee : someone put a lot of btc into that aggressive accumulation
[2016-11-15 19:39:13] jung1 : why there is no liq price on ZEC here?
[2016-11-15 19:39:14] wurstgelee : all the big volume orders were buys smashing asks today
[2016-11-15 19:39:25] wurstgelee : ifc u are 1x long, how can there be one? ;)
[2016-11-15 19:39:28] wurstgelee : *if
[2016-11-15 19:39:33] jung1 : right
[2016-11-15 19:39:39] jung1 : hehe
[2016-11-15 19:39:59] wurstgelee : thats why longs have waaaay less risk here ;)
[2016-11-15 19:40:16] wurstgelee : and had even less @ .06
[2016-11-15 19:48:04] jung1 : anyone already shorted btc?
[2016-11-15 19:48:28] jung1 : imo 716-720 is max for this short term pump
[2016-11-15 20:00:37] wurstgelee : hmmmmmmm
[2016-11-15 20:00:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 20:02:01] wurstgelee : new high
[2016-11-15 20:02:06] sleger : in the great words of our initial idiot " jung1: imo 716-720 is max for this short term pump"
[2016-11-15 20:02:27] Rekted : sell your mom to buy btc?
[2016-11-15 20:02:32] jung1 : sleger: what is wrong with you?
[2016-11-15 20:02:48] sleger : just watch
[2016-11-15 20:03:01] jung1 : you really need atention in internet?
[2016-11-15 20:03:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 1 @ 740.54 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-15 20:12:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 450 @ 0.010138
[2016-11-15 20:13:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 1471 @ 0.010037
[2016-11-15 20:17:36] wurstgelee : new highs weekly, new highs spot...
[2016-11-15 20:19:28] Rekted : Donald want to grab the support by the pussy
[2016-11-15 20:19:29] jung1 : 5000?
[2016-11-15 20:21:40] AudibleScience : in the next few hours maybe?
[2016-11-15 20:23:21] AudibleScience : sleger: you there, what do you think?
[2016-11-15 20:24:13] sleger : well we have jung1-contra indicator that said we wont go higher than 720 so most likely we will, so 5000 yes
[2016-11-15 20:24:32] Rekted : sleger: new market indicator
[2016-11-15 20:24:34] jung1 : propably
[2016-11-15 20:24:45] QuantFocus : we're sitting at ichi resistance
[2016-11-15 20:24:54] QuantFocus : going to be interesting if it breaks
[2016-11-15 20:25:48] sleger : ichi ichi ya ya
[2016-11-15 20:25:54] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-11-15 20:25:58] wurstgelee : out of my head ffs
[2016-11-15 20:25:58] QuantFocus : nah nah
[2016-11-15 20:38:17] NL007 : Zclassic getting added on bittrex
[2016-11-15 20:38:51] QuantFocus : woah woah woah
[2016-11-15 20:38:53] QuantFocus : did i miss a zec fork?
[2016-11-15 20:39:08] QuantFocus : or what is zclassic?
[2016-11-15 20:40:23] jung1 : yep
[2016-11-15 20:40:29] jung1 : like one week after release
[2016-11-15 20:40:43] jung1 : its zcash without 20% of coins for developers
[2016-11-15 20:40:43] QuantFocus : wow...
[2016-11-15 20:41:20] jung1 : yeah
[2016-11-15 20:41:21] jung1 : hehe
[2016-11-15 20:43:09] Bacon futures trader : 5k r crumbling
[2016-11-15 20:44:15] jung1 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/X51ZuyRo-Bitcoin/
[2016-11-15 20:44:30] Bacon futures trader : fomo if asia takes us 5400+
[2016-11-15 20:55:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1000 @ 737.29
[2016-11-15 21:01:26] jung1 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd finex going short
[2016-11-15 21:01:29] RocketScience : look at half year chart of btc/yen
[2016-11-15 21:01:44] RocketScience : yen devalued 8% in 1 week = june highs
[2016-11-15 21:03:37] RocketScience : We want real moves in btc...at least 500 yuan!!
[2016-11-15 21:04:51] jung1 : We havn't seen these daily volumes since March on OkCoin
[2016-11-15 21:05:09] jung1 : but volume as indicator in china are not best idead
[2016-11-15 21:05:58] RocketScience : there are 350 btc wall flashing and being instantly bought or sold
[2016-11-15 21:06:15] RocketScience : walls* that's how they make volume
[2016-11-15 21:06:34] RocketScience : i wish they wouldn't do that
[2016-11-15 21:07:07] RocketScience : zerohedge says yen will drop further...long btc/yen?
[2016-11-15 21:07:11] jung1 : yeah
[2016-11-15 21:18:59] jung1 : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchange-quadriga-public-reverse-takeover/
[2016-11-15 21:19:46] BigDaddyBigDick : yen is ugly as fuck. Those dec 30s are gold
[2016-11-15 21:24:21] QuantFocus : really, that's the name you chose?
[2016-11-15 21:24:26] QuantFocus : noice
[2016-11-15 21:25:10] BigDaddyBigDick : why not right
[2016-11-15 21:26:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 304 @ 735.57
[2016-11-15 21:26:55] CaptainDean : BigDaddyBigDick: well it sucks ... hooooooooo fuck me
[2016-11-15 21:27:06] CaptainDean : :P
[2016-11-15 21:27:51] BigDaddyBigDick : impressed it hasent been banned yet tbh. Polo banned it the minute they saw it in the trollbox
[2016-11-15 21:28:16] QuantFocus : i don't think they care around here
[2016-11-15 21:28:23] QuantFocus : we're all adults
[2016-11-15 21:28:25] BitMEX_Sam : We're not that uptight
[2016-11-15 21:28:43] BigDaddyBigDick : reasons why i like it here much more
[2016-11-15 21:31:10] mjones : polo trollbox = full of idiots. btce trollbox full of bagholders. bitmex trollbox full of people getting rekt on high leverage
[2016-11-15 21:32:08] Tetsuo : ^true
[2016-11-15 21:32:52] mjones : speaking of which i longed the xmr double bottom but not feeling to good about it holding
[2016-11-15 21:33:21] BigDaddyBigDick : im waiting for xmr to retrace more. 95ish
[2016-11-15 21:33:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 101 @ 734.93
[2016-11-15 21:34:29] javierstone : btc crash
[2016-11-15 21:35:15] wurstgelee : moar please
[2016-11-15 21:35:36] Boontjie : ughj
[2016-11-15 21:35:39] javierstone : moar moar moar
[2016-11-15 21:35:43] Boontjie : I just longed man
[2016-11-15 21:35:46] wurstgelee : MOAR
[2016-11-15 21:35:48] javierstone : papa wants a new synthesizer
[2016-11-15 21:35:57] wurstgelee : Boontjie: i know, i prob dumped into your bids ;)
[2016-11-15 21:35:58] mjones : damn btc. that 4990 cny double top dump
[2016-11-15 21:36:10] javierstone : she's going down
[2016-11-15 21:36:21] mjones : 100x long btc now is a safe bet
[2016-11-15 21:36:21] jung1 : told ya
[2016-11-15 21:36:29] Boontjie : wurstgelee: champion man, i feel epic right now
[2016-11-15 21:36:43] wurstgelee : lolz ;)
[2016-11-15 21:36:56] BigDaddyBigDick : 4930 good support on cny
[2016-11-15 21:37:09] rasdasd : pff thats one big red dildo
[2016-11-15 21:37:10] wurstgelee : someone just panic closed his short i guess
[2016-11-15 21:37:37] javierstone : ya this is crazy sell off
[2016-11-15 21:37:58] rasdasd : I have short from 715...under 700 would be great
[2016-11-15 21:38:04] wurstgelee : big dump on quarterlies
[2016-11-15 21:38:21] wurstgelee : ~20k contracts
[2016-11-15 21:38:27] Tetsuo : ok?
[2016-11-15 21:38:29] Tetsuo : okk
[2016-11-15 21:38:35] wurstgelee : okkk?
[2016-11-15 21:38:42] javierstone : you guys got it!
[2016-11-15 21:38:43] Tetsuo : ok, thx
[2016-11-15 21:38:50] wurstgelee : whis!
[2016-11-15 21:39:02] javierstone : pushing buttons to make it happen!
[2016-11-15 21:40:22] rasdasd : its not over yet..back to 700
[2016-11-15 21:40:59] javierstone : rasdasd: whatever u say mr. 715
[2016-11-15 21:41:34] BigDaddyBigDick : there is a rising wedge on btccny hourly that has me a tad concerned
[2016-11-15 21:42:08] javierstone : meaning what?
[2016-11-15 21:42:12] javierstone : it'll go up or down
[2016-11-15 21:42:21] BigDaddyBigDick : down if it plays out
[2016-11-15 21:42:33] javierstone : oh ya this motherfucking is going down
[2016-11-15 21:42:35] wurstgelee : BigDaddyBigDick: :)
[2016-11-15 21:42:50] rasdasd : javierstone: nevermind about my short I am taking profit..but really it doesnt look good
[2016-11-15 21:43:13] javierstone : should i call the cops?
[2016-11-15 21:45:32] jung1 : finex going short
[2016-11-15 21:45:32] mjones : china cant break down the great wall of 5000 CNY
[2016-11-15 21:47:20] jung1 : stamp as well
[2016-11-15 21:47:41] BigDaddyBigDick : if the wedge does play out, i could see it going to 4870cny some good support there.
[2016-11-15 21:47:42] rasdasd : lets see if 4940 holds
[2016-11-15 21:51:42] jung1 : weak
[2016-11-15 21:58:32] javierstone : she goign down
[2016-11-15 22:03:34] mjones : for the PNL calculator how do I change it? right now it says XMR7D (20x) and I want it to calculate 10x instead
[2016-11-15 22:03:49] wurstgelee : upnl isnt affected by leverage
[2016-11-15 22:03:54] wurstgelee : ROE % is
[2016-11-15 22:12:40] viptrader : moon time in btc
[2016-11-15 22:16:18] BigDaddyBigDick : btfd
[2016-11-15 22:22:21] wurstgelee : u guys must be watching different charts....
[2016-11-15 22:22:31] Rado : wurstgelee: under 0.16 again
[2016-11-15 22:22:43] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 22:22:52] wurstgelee : took a little more than 2h tho ;)
[2016-11-15 22:39:02] jung1 : You are short wursti?
[2016-11-15 22:41:20] viptrader : hey everyone
[2016-11-15 22:41:37] wurstgelee : also .16 hasnt fallen yet ;) @jung1 :D
[2016-11-15 22:41:38] viptrader : why my liq price dont change if i choose between cross or X100
[2016-11-15 22:41:50] wurstgelee : well now it has
[2016-11-15 22:41:58] wurstgelee : i just forgot to press enter earlier ;)
[2016-11-15 22:42:18] viptrader : OK It is
[2016-11-15 22:42:30] wurstgelee : moon is looking strange today
[2016-11-15 22:43:04] javierstone : btc will hit 700 today
[2016-11-15 22:43:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 7 @ 0.075122
[2016-11-15 22:43:34] rapidtrades : javier noone likes spoilers you pos
[2016-11-15 22:44:04] javierstone : specially the cops
[2016-11-15 22:44:59] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-15 22:45:13] wurstgelee : who is panic closing zec shorts? ;)
[2016-11-15 22:46:16] wurstgelee : btc die plz
[2016-11-15 22:46:20] wurstgelee : kthxbye
[2016-11-15 22:47:41] javierstone : thar we go
[2016-11-15 22:48:18] mjones : btc new low
[2016-11-15 22:48:20] viptrader : good long here btc
[2016-11-15 22:48:52] javierstone : china is dropping that shit
[2016-11-15 22:49:25] BigDaddyBigDick : sup with the marking on the zec contracts. ZEC goes down but marking goes up
[2016-11-15 22:50:04] mjones : man now zec is pumping.
[2016-11-15 22:50:21] wurstgelee : panic closing shorts i guess
[2016-11-15 22:51:12] BigDaddyBigDick : polo price of zec is dropping but on here its rising, including mark price. Dosent make sense to me
[2016-11-15 22:51:41] javierstone : BigDaddyBigDick thats what you get for messing with the cool crowd
[2016-11-15 22:51:49] wurstgelee : we get closer to dec 30th and, more important, people realize that price is too low here
[2016-11-15 22:52:48] javierstone : BigDaddyBigDick they'll whisk you up with their rock n roll and fast cars but leave you high and dry
[2016-11-15 22:52:48] BigDaddyBigDick : so does it not track polo like it says or what aha cuz if thats the case i dont wanna get close to them long or short
[2016-11-15 22:54:04] BitMEX_Sam : It's dampened by price movements on Polo but it is still allowed to move as its own market, as futures should not trade exactly with spot
[2016-11-15 22:54:21] BitMEX_Sam : The variance you're seeing is swings in basis, which is perfectly normal for a future with significant time until expiry
[2016-11-15 22:54:59] BigDaddyBigDick : correct, but when i see the price here knock my short down to negative 50% even though prices have been dropping, it makes me wonder what the deal is,
[2016-11-15 22:55:55] BigDaddyBigDick : and dont say its a speculative contract and that will happen, cuz swings like that shouldent happen
[2016-11-15 22:59:43] j8 : why shouldn't they? people are free to buy and sell the future at whatever price. it's also the only way to short zec, as far as i know, which makes the basis even more volatile
[2016-11-15 23:00:31] miramm1115 : BigDaddyBigDick: mark price will track the middle of the orderbook here. it will be affected by polo but it's mostly influenced by whatever traders do here
[2016-11-15 23:00:57] miramm1115 : lots of buying -> mark price goes up
[2016-11-15 23:01:26] wurstgelee : a lot of shorts were opened @ ~ .06 to .07
[2016-11-15 23:01:30] BigDaddyBigDick : odd, been trading futures for years and ive never seen stuff like this until crypto
[2016-11-15 23:01:36] wurstgelee : those are getting squeezed now...
[2016-11-15 23:01:48] wurstgelee : simple as that
[2016-11-15 23:02:04] wurstgelee : polo pumps, price moves up, shorts get closed...
[2016-11-15 23:02:23] wurstgelee : u should have seen that before in your years ;)
[2016-11-15 23:02:26] BigDaddyBigDick : polo drops, price on here moves up. The divergence on moves is insane
[2016-11-15 23:02:43] wurstgelee : look at longer timeframe chart of zec
[2016-11-15 23:02:51] wurstgelee : it was all down until ~ 48h ago
[2016-11-15 23:03:06] wurstgelee : until then a lot of guys thought it wil drop straight toi below .1
[2016-11-15 23:03:17] wurstgelee : this thinking might have been affected by the recent hours ;)
[2016-11-15 23:04:37] BigDaddyBigDick : ya i know what it looks like man, i have a mining farm for this stuff, i buy zec shorts as insurance. But right now it seems my insurance could be next to worthless even as the spot price keeps dropping.
[2016-11-15 23:05:15] miramm1115 : the discount here was too big, it's going to get smaller and smaller as Dec. 30 approaches
[2016-11-15 23:05:52] miramm1115 : but there is almost no liquidity here, so it will jump a lot
[2016-11-15 23:05:52] BigDaddyBigDick : ya the discount has thrown me a bit of a loop to
[2016-11-15 23:06:17] wurstgelee : it was 1/3rd of polo until a few days ago
[2016-11-15 23:06:25] wurstgelee : thats just too much
[2016-11-15 23:06:53] wurstgelee : .05 here while polo was @ .15
[2016-11-15 23:07:37] javierstone : bitmex ecosystem is a weird one
[2016-11-15 23:09:51] BigDaddyBigDick : gotten to a point where i wonder if theres to many shorts on zec in big profitsand bitmex dosent wanna be paying all that out so now things get wonky.
[2016-11-15 23:11:05] lockhedge : wurstgelee: didn't you say the same when the price was 0.5 here, 2 weeks ago?
[2016-11-15 23:11:33] wurstgelee : yeah, i always said 1/3rd is too low
[2016-11-15 23:12:52] viptrader : moon
[2016-11-15 23:13:03] viptrader : rip btc shorts soon
[2016-11-15 23:13:13] miramm1115 : BigDaddyBigDick: BitMEX doesn't have to pay anything, all positions are against other traders.
[2016-11-15 23:14:23] miramm1115 : other side pays for your profits
[2016-11-15 23:14:35] wurstgelee : yep., there is nothing wonky here
[2016-11-15 23:15:21] wurstgelee : bitmex gets fees for providing us with the possibility to play greter fool with each other ;)
[2016-11-15 23:15:28] wurstgelee : *greater
[2016-11-15 23:15:43] BigDaddyBigDick : so its not just some bucket shop. Good to hear
[2016-11-15 23:15:51] wurstgelee : nope, not at all
[2016-11-15 23:16:08] wurstgelee : bitmex doesnt hold positions
[2016-11-15 23:27:03] BigDaddyBigDick : appreciate the insight.
[2016-11-15 23:28:43] wurstgelee : yw
[2016-11-15 23:30:48] rasdasd : wurstgelee: lol true that
[2016-11-15 23:31:08] wurstgelee : hm?
[2016-11-15 23:31:15] rasdasd : wurstgelee: no volume here..not sure which exchange to use with leverage
[2016-11-15 23:31:19] rasdasd : for btc
[2016-11-15 23:31:35] BitMEX_Sam : Re: BTC we're consistently #1 or #2 BTC/USD
[2016-11-15 23:31:49] wurstgelee : thats true
[2016-11-15 23:31:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 23:32:41] viptrader : BitMEX_Sam: hey, if i buy 10,000 contract at 712 and my avg entry price of all 50,000 contract is 714 would i make profit if i sell 10,000 contract at 713?
[2016-11-15 23:33:17] BitMEX_Sam : Your profit on the 10,000 you bought and sold is (713/712 * 10,000)
[2016-11-15 23:33:31] BitMEX_Sam : Less fees (or plus fee rebates) depending on if you made/took
[2016-11-15 23:34:06] viptrader : but i would make profit, regardless of my avg entry being higher?
[2016-11-15 23:34:28] BitMEX_Sam : You would make profit on that particular buy/sell pair, but your overall position would have unrealised loss
[2016-11-15 23:34:57] javierstone : did bitmex go down for anyone else?
[2016-11-15 23:35:02] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-15 23:35:17] viptrader : BitMEX_Sam: thnx
[2016-11-15 23:35:18] javierstone : weird i got disconnected never gotten that error before
[2016-11-15 23:35:35] wurstgelee : all fine here
[2016-11-15 23:37:35] BitMEX_Sam : Could be your local connection, didn't see anything here either.
[2016-11-15 23:42:33] rafa : If a trade is done where the buy and sell are done as makers, there is a net profit of 0.05% or at there any other fees?
[2016-11-15 23:43:39] BigDaddyBigDick : Just your connection, happens to me almost daily unfortunatly
[2016-11-15 23:52:45] jung1 : china is fighting
[2016-11-15 23:59:12] rapidtrades : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXfc_RBb9Lg
[2016-11-15 23:59:48] mjones : btc dump
[2016-11-16 00:00:06] rasdasd : btc break down
[2016-11-16 00:00:43] jung1 : bitcoin is dead
[2016-11-16 00:01:30] mjones : no one is fomo dumping here on xbtz16
[2016-11-16 00:01:53] javierstone : ya cuz ppl here are crazy
[2016-11-16 00:02:38] mjones : must mean the bottom is in.100x long time
[2016-11-16 00:02:57] javierstone : do it
[2016-11-16 00:04:20] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: hey sam. can you add a preference to disable notifications for order amend?
[2016-11-16 00:05:35] javierstone : something crazy is going on in china
[2016-11-16 00:05:45] javierstone : $2 USD spread between the three main exchanges
[2016-11-16 00:06:24] javierstone : i'm gonna trust BTCC
[2016-11-16 00:07:14] laisee : usually something crazy going on China w.r.t crypto ccys
[2016-11-16 00:07:39] javierstone : ?
[2016-11-16 00:07:48] javierstone : don't know the last part of what u said
[2016-11-16 00:08:14] laisee : w.r.t. == related to crypto currencies
[2016-11-16 00:08:56] javierstone : k and what does ccys mean
[2016-11-16 00:09:07] javierstone : ah nvm i got it
[2016-11-16 00:10:34] javierstone : BTCC just hit 4920
[2016-11-16 00:11:03] rasdasd : too bad..I wanted to see ATH before new year
[2016-11-16 00:11:22] jung1 : still possible
[2016-11-16 00:12:26] javierstone : 4915...
[2016-11-16 00:15:34] javierstone : i wonder if it'll break below 4900
[2016-11-16 00:16:09] jung1 : will be great
[2016-11-16 00:19:45] lockhedge : okc quarterlies frozen at 5000
[2016-11-16 00:20:29] rapidtrades : lockhedge: y
[2016-11-16 00:20:40] javierstone : smell some incoming rekt longs
[2016-11-16 00:20:44] rapidtrades : SELL SELL SELL
[2016-11-16 00:24:03] Rekted : this dump is so weird
[2016-11-16 00:24:12] javierstone : why
[2016-11-16 00:24:18] Rekted : he is slow, he let you suffering
[2016-11-16 00:24:30] javierstone : lol
[2016-11-16 00:24:40] javierstone : he's a real son of a bitch
[2016-11-16 00:24:55] Rekted : yes but i keep hope
[2016-11-16 00:28:32] rapidtrades : Rekted: f*ck off imposter
[2016-11-16 00:29:18] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You got it, I'll add it to our list
[2016-11-16 00:30:06] javierstone : lol
[2016-11-16 00:32:08] Rekted : rapidtrades: ?
[2016-11-16 00:33:18] Rekted : be more respectfull dude, i will take your money
[2016-11-16 00:36:27] rapidtrades : Rekted: how so faggit?
[2016-11-16 00:36:58] rapidtrades : btw u can't take my money I already gave em to your mom last night
[2016-11-16 00:37:11] rapidtrades : for services rendered
[2016-11-16 00:38:15] Rekted : rapidtrades: ahah
[2016-11-16 00:38:23] Rekted : my mom is dead
[2016-11-16 00:38:25] Rekted : :'(
[2016-11-16 00:38:57] Rekted : are you necrophile?
[2016-11-16 00:39:27] j8 : :thumbsup: @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-11-16 00:39:40] Rekted : necrophilic
[2016-11-16 00:43:50] jung1 : what a boring dump
[2016-11-16 00:47:56] rapidtrades : I fear that this whole space is gonna crumble
[2016-11-16 00:53:53] miramm1115 : definitely, ozone layer will disappear and all computers will get fried, along with humans of course
[2016-11-16 00:54:33] miramm1115 : only blockchain will live forever :-)
[2016-11-16 00:56:05] j8 : we may have to sha-256 hash by hand in the post-nuclear world, but at least it'll create jobs
[2016-11-16 00:56:35] rapidtrades : government jobs no doubt
[2016-11-16 00:56:54] miramm1115 : confirmation times will increase to 10+ years though
[2016-11-16 00:57:16] javierstone : rapidtrades: what do u mean ?
[2016-11-16 00:57:50] jung1 : miramm1115: If something looks stupid but it works, its not stupid
[2016-11-16 00:59:05] miramm1115 : I never said that bitcoin looks stupid but blockchain hype is a bit over the top
[2016-11-16 00:59:24] jung1 : "confirmation times will increase to 10+ years though "
[2016-11-16 00:59:49] jung1 : imo its not on the top yet
[2016-11-16 00:59:52] miramm1115 : it was a reply to j8's "we may have to sha-256 hash by hand"
[2016-11-16 01:00:04] jung1 : blockchain hype will be same as dotcom one
[2016-11-16 01:00:14] jung1 : yeah I know
[2016-11-16 01:00:21] jung1 : so it will work
[2016-11-16 01:00:25] jung1 : ")
[2016-11-16 01:01:44] miramm1115 : I will just barter gun ammunition for spam cans, it's a bit faster ;-)
[2016-11-16 01:03:59] javierstone : china not bouncing os much
[2016-11-16 01:05:01] jung1 : not dumping also
[2016-11-16 01:05:50] javierstone : soon
[2016-11-16 01:06:05] javierstone : there we go
[2016-11-16 01:06:43] javierstone : breaking 4920 soon
[2016-11-16 01:06:48] jung1 : there should be at least 30y not 3
[2016-11-16 01:07:04] jung1 : btcc already break it
[2016-11-16 01:07:23] jung1 : hour ago
[2016-11-16 01:09:57] javierstone : its slow as shit in here today
[2016-11-16 01:11:45] jung1 : I hope that i worth to wait
[2016-11-16 01:12:37] jung1 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd shorts increase on finex
[2016-11-16 01:14:32] lockhedge : miramm1115: Bitfinex style security will soon protect nuke codes http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/10/bitcoin-style-security-may-soon-guard-us-nukes-and-satellites/132235/
[2016-11-16 01:15:14] lockhedge : maybe more secure than one single key in the hands (head) of president trump
[2016-11-16 01:22:45] martinium : China just devalued some more
[2016-11-16 01:22:56] javierstone : when
[2016-11-16 01:25:00] miramm1115 : lockhedge: that's a scary thought
[2016-11-16 01:27:06] jung1 : 15% more shorts on finex in last 10min
[2016-11-16 01:29:31] jung1 : anoher 2% more
[2016-11-16 01:29:39] viptrader : CNY just got rekt, bitcoin moon in 3,2...........
[2016-11-16 01:29:45] viptrader : longgggggggggggggggg
[2016-11-16 01:30:49] sleger : usd is due for a retrace though
[2016-11-16 01:35:23] jung1 : ah fck it Im out
[2016-11-16 01:35:27] jung1 : closed my short
[2016-11-16 01:35:44] jung1 : now it will fall
[2016-11-16 01:42:57] viptrader : check news
[2016-11-16 01:43:25] viptrader : hina weakens yuan fixing rate to 6.8592 vs 6.8495 yesterday. Weakest since 2008 and 9th consecutive day weakening - most in 11-months.
[2016-11-16 01:43:30] viptrader : moon time for btc
[2016-11-16 01:43:53] Apocalyptic : where's our China devaluation report tonight ?
[2016-11-16 01:47:37] jung1 : viptrader: link?
[2016-11-16 01:48:51] sleger : jung1: google.com
[2016-11-16 01:48:58] jung1 : we should have some chinese insider here
[2016-11-16 01:49:19] jung1 : sleger: what's that page? I do not know that
[2016-11-16 01:49:31] sleger : i figured that part out months ago
[2016-11-16 02:07:11] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY central rate at 6.8592 (vs. yesterday at 6.8495)
[2016-11-16 02:07:38] rapidtrades : oh i see smone already posted it...then why are u complaining? @Apocalyptic
[2016-11-16 02:07:52] jung1 : so moon time?
[2016-11-16 02:08:00] sleger : we dont believe anyone else but you @rapidtrades
[2016-11-16 02:08:25] rapidtrades : offshore yuan now at 6.8781, below the fix
[2016-11-16 02:08:47] rapidtrades : or above if looking at it as usd/cnh
[2016-11-16 02:09:42] rapidtrades : if bitcoin isn't going up on this devaluation, it will go down once they stop
[2016-11-16 02:10:44] rapidtrades : 1.5% loss for Yuan this month while only 0.3% gain for BTC
[2016-11-16 02:12:07] rapidtrades : i guess u gotta factor in the fact that's priced in USD....against CNY it's up more
[2016-11-16 02:13:21] jung1 : its seems like its not big correlation with cny/btc price
[2016-11-16 02:13:50] rapidtrades : nah just did the math and in china it's up 0.25% since nov1, so same thing
[2016-11-16 02:14:37] rapidtrades : jung1: the bitcoin volatility should trump any USD or CNY effect in the long run
[2016-11-16 02:15:06] rapidtrades : right now the USD/CNY is down by only 4.5% this year, after constant devaluation
[2016-11-16 02:15:50] rapidtrades : currencies just don't move as much as crypto
[2016-11-16 02:19:04] rapidtrades : there was strong correlation during october but after that ban report things have changed
[2016-11-16 02:20:40] Rado : temporary
[2016-11-16 02:20:49] Rado : soon it will be back to normal
[2016-11-16 02:21:01] Rado : governments want to slow down the bitcoin adoption
[2016-11-16 02:21:10] Rado : so they just bark, but no actual action
[2016-11-16 02:21:42] javierstone : dropping
[2016-11-16 02:23:03] javierstone : china gonna dip below 4900
[2016-11-16 02:27:49] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: we posted almost at the same time, didn't see his message
[2016-11-16 02:32:38] jung1 : it just wont dump
[2016-11-16 02:36:09] javierstone : they are just waking up jung1
[2016-11-16 02:37:26] Apocalyptic : jung1: my thoughts exactly on ZEC
[2016-11-16 02:42:23] jung1 : who put that buy order at 709.02?
[2016-11-16 02:42:40] rapidtrades : sleger
[2016-11-16 02:46:55] jung1 : some big whales are playing games
[2016-11-16 02:58:32] javierstone : ya its very strange how china is dropping and other markets araen't responding
[2016-11-16 02:58:54] jose : china is not dropping, btw
[2016-11-16 02:59:28] javierstone : ya?
[2016-11-16 02:59:31] javierstone : where u seeing that
[2016-11-16 03:00:57] jose : on chinese futures, no movement at all
[2016-11-16 03:37:06] Rado : Money management is job #1 for a trader - Peter Brandt
[2016-11-16 03:41:42] Rado : someone is selling 3000 contracts t 7202.50
[2016-11-16 03:41:50] Rado : I wish he gets filled :-)
[2016-11-16 03:52:24] QuantFocus : Rado: you sure he's into that?
[2016-11-16 03:52:40] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 03:52:42] Rado : I am
[2016-11-16 03:53:07] QuantFocus : :smile:
[2016-11-16 03:53:19] Rado : he is going to have an orgazm if that trade happens
[2016-11-16 03:53:29] QuantFocus : via prostate
[2016-11-16 03:53:33] Rado : lol
[2016-11-16 03:54:43] QuantFocus : the best kind, amirite?
[2016-11-16 03:56:15] QuantFocus : too far, sorry
[2016-11-16 05:27:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 3 @ 0.003021
[2016-11-16 06:29:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7 @ 713.18
[2016-11-16 06:36:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 180 @ 713.57
[2016-11-16 06:49:25] bernx : cross margin
[2016-11-16 06:49:28] bernx : it's x100 or?
[2016-11-16 07:25:43] meh : dynamic
[2016-11-16 07:35:36] Apocalyptic : bernx: cross margin is whatever your balance can handle
[2016-11-16 07:48:13] CapitalGains : Is there a mod around?
[2016-11-16 07:52:45] j8 : you have to say "admin" three times to summon them. caps work best
[2016-11-16 07:56:02] BitMEX_Jinming : CapitalGains: Hi
[2016-11-16 07:57:27] CapitalGains : BitMEX_Jinming: Hi, I just wanted to ask about liquidation - if you hover over the red "liq price" it says that a hedging product like XBU will be liquidated incrementally - is this the XBT USD perpetual swap?
[2016-11-16 07:58:30] BitMEX_Jinming : CapitalGains: This product is not available any more. We will update the hover message.
[2016-11-16 07:58:55] CapitalGains : Ah. Thanks for clarifying. So all products will be liquidated immediately.
[2016-11-16 08:00:12] BitMEX_Jinming : CapitalGains: Yes. However, if you are on higher risk limit, there will also be incremental liquidations. Details: https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation
[2016-11-16 08:00:35] BitMEX_Jinming : https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation#Users-on-Higher-Risk-Limit-tiers
[2016-11-16 08:01:32] CapitalGains : Thanks
[2016-11-16 08:17:30] rasdasd : That fake bear dump tonight..well played
[2016-11-16 08:43:41] rapidtrades : rasdasd: u were saying?
[2016-11-16 08:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 31466 @ 712.47 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-16 09:03:26] jpc : REKT: crazy leverage
[2016-11-16 09:06:05] rapidtrades : yeah REKT is pretty crazy
[2016-11-16 09:53:37] laisee : REKT is the Donald. He has Billions to lose.
[2016-11-16 10:19:24] msadigbo : hi y'all
[2016-11-16 10:46:54] zanza : so what happens this Friday when SegWit starts signalling
[2016-11-16 10:47:03] zanza : and ViaBTC/Bitcoin.com block it ?
[2016-11-16 10:47:09] meh : nothing happens
[2016-11-16 10:47:14] wurstgelee : its a 2 month signaling period
[2016-11-16 10:47:20] wurstgelee : nothing happens
[2016-11-16 10:47:37] zanza : the market will see that SegWit is being blocked
[2016-11-16 10:47:48] zanza : and maybe shit the bed
[2016-11-16 10:48:24] wurstgelee : they cant block it alone
[2016-11-16 10:48:26] wurstgelee : not for long
[2016-11-16 10:49:10] meh : zanza short and scared huh? ^^
[2016-11-16 10:49:17] zanza : im not short
[2016-11-16 10:49:21] zanza : just holding
[2016-11-16 10:49:21] wurstgelee : it wont be activated after 2 months tho...
[2016-11-16 10:49:23] wurstgelee : 1 /Satoshi:0.13.1/ 1508 (28.30%)
[2016-11-16 10:49:27] wurstgelee : still not bad
[2016-11-16 10:49:42] meh : fastest adoption till today afaik
[2016-11-16 10:49:45] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 10:50:05] zanza : Blockstream/Core has $80M invested in SegWit tho
[2016-11-16 10:50:14] wurstgelee : didnt update my node that fast until 0.13.1 tbh
[2016-11-16 10:50:16] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-16 10:50:17] zanza : this will get ugly fast
[2016-11-16 10:51:18] zanza : actually if there is a price crash, and everyone is blaming it on ViaBTC, they will probably cave to pressure
[2016-11-16 10:51:23] meh : blockstream offers solutions like bloq does, or redhat if you need another comparison, your 80m segwit investment makes no sense
[2016-11-16 10:52:09] meh : also BS != Core
[2016-11-16 10:52:10] zanza : it really makes no sense for the to push settlement layer so hard, if their business model wasn't critical on it
[2016-11-16 10:53:05] wurstgelee : btw, i made some buys visible @ zec, feel free to short ;)
[2016-11-16 10:53:09] meh : as i said BS != Core, and they dont push anybody, if segwit isn't activated after (afaik) 1 yr it gets droped and nodes forget about it
[2016-11-16 10:53:22] meh : afaik core even offered a 13.1 without segwit
[2016-11-16 10:53:22] meh : lol
[2016-11-16 10:53:35] zanza : Blockstream has like 75% of Core on payroll ?
[2016-11-16 10:53:46] zanza : including the big leader bosses
[2016-11-16 10:55:22] zanza : idk, I guess SegWit will most likely pass
[2016-11-16 10:55:39] zanza : I'm not a fan, but if 95% signals then that is it
[2016-11-16 10:55:42] wurstgelee : yep, same guess here
[2016-11-16 10:56:01] zanza : im not calling for fork like some extremists on /r/btc
[2016-11-16 10:56:14] zanza : (ie separate coin)
[2016-11-16 10:56:39] zanza : but the /r/Bitcoin censorship is very troubling, the community is very fragmented in a bad way
[2016-11-16 10:57:10] wurstgelee : i stay away from bitcoin related reddit
[2016-11-16 10:57:19] wurstgelee : so much anger and fud...
[2016-11-16 10:57:21] meh : i do favor a fork, i get 1x my BTC holdings + 1x fork BTC holding (which i'd dump for "corecoins") ^^
[2016-11-16 10:57:41] wurstgelee : shortsighted imo
[2016-11-16 10:58:13] wurstgelee : two bitcoins are not better than 1 bitcoin =)
[2016-11-16 10:59:10] meh : imo there will be only one BTC after a fork ^^ rogers altcoin is worthless to me (if they fork away)
[2016-11-16 11:00:10] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-16 11:00:34] wurstgelee : roger should just fck off and stop annoying everyone
[2016-11-16 11:01:01] wurstgelee : he'd like to be crowned king of bitcoin so much....
[2016-11-16 11:01:20] meh : haha totally
[2016-11-16 11:01:45] laisee : good to fork and resolve the issue properly, debate has gone on for years
[2016-11-16 11:01:55] wurstgelee : in other things, 4969
[2016-11-16 11:02:19] zanza : at least /r/btc doesn't have censorship
[2016-11-16 11:03:31] wurstgelee : zec will have another round of pumping fun
[2016-11-16 11:03:37] laisee : agree. strange that permissionless currency has such string attempts to control debate & ideas from some
[2016-11-16 11:03:39] wurstgelee : starting now probably
[2016-11-16 11:03:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-16 11:04:05] laisee : wurstgelee: cool, I'll buy that for a $ :-)
[2016-11-16 11:04:14] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-16 11:07:26] wurstgelee : first time i bought zec @ spot
[2016-11-16 11:10:24] meh : zec would be awesome but 20% cut is a nogo for a lot of ppl =/
[2016-11-16 11:11:02] wurstgelee : part of that is vc money, basically the same as icos...
[2016-11-16 11:11:12] wurstgelee : people dont have a problem with that
[2016-11-16 11:11:19] wurstgelee : and icos are usually 100% pre-bought
[2016-11-16 11:11:29] wurstgelee : doesnt make sense imo