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[2016-11-15 12:02:50] elmorte : arbitrage001: sup! Why, you selling?
[2016-11-15 12:03:38] elmorte : jonny: yup...you sound surprised
[2016-11-15 12:05:28] arbitrage001 : elmorte: are you in kl?
[2016-11-15 12:05:49] elmorte : Yeah dawg, you asked me before
[2016-11-15 12:05:56] arbitrage001 : have maybank?
[2016-11-15 12:06:01] arbitrage001 : how many btc you want?
[2016-11-15 12:07:15] elmorte : I was kinda joking, but what's your offer? Still on 0001 email?
[2016-11-15 12:07:33] arbitrage001 : bitfinex market price
[2016-11-15 12:07:53] arbitrage001 : yes, same email
[2016-11-15 12:09:21] arbitrage001 : if you are interested, let me know soon. Withdrawal window here close in 50 mins
[2016-11-15 12:09:24] elmorte : Same as lbtc price then...it's cool, thanks though
[2016-11-15 12:09:31] arbitrage001 : ok
[2016-11-15 12:11:19] elmorte : Are you on any of the Msian chat groups? They worth following?
[2016-11-15 12:13:27] arbitrage001 : elmorte: one of the group
[2016-11-15 12:13:39] arbitrage001 : created by mark pui and tsang
[2016-11-15 12:13:50] arbitrage001 : mostly politic and economic news
[2016-11-15 12:14:15] arbitrage001 : whining against malaysian government like everyone on the street
[2016-11-15 12:14:26] elmorte : Not crypto?
[2016-11-15 12:14:32] elmorte : Haha, standard
[2016-11-15 12:14:33] arbitrage001 : also crypto
[2016-11-15 12:15:08] arbitrage001 : which group are you in?
[2016-11-15 12:15:12] arbitrage001 : colbert one?
[2016-11-15 12:15:39] elmorte : Not anymore, got kicked coz I didn't feel like doing their kycaml b.s.
[2016-11-15 12:16:05] arbitrage001 : need kyc to join chat group?
[2016-11-15 12:16:12] elmorte : Kicked out*
[2016-11-15 12:16:21] elmorte : Yeah, like within a certain period
[2016-11-15 12:16:35] arbitrage001 : guess they invited too many scammers
[2016-11-15 12:16:36] elmorte : And I was traveling...so screw it
[2016-11-15 12:16:44] elmorte : Yup, that's their excuse
[2016-11-15 12:16:54] arbitrage001 : see
[2016-11-15 12:17:13] arbitrage001 : shady characters invite even more shady people
[2016-11-15 12:17:27] arbitrage001 : beside
[2016-11-15 12:17:35] arbitrage001 : most of the btc buyers i deal with
[2016-11-15 12:17:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2 @ 726.07 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-15 12:17:49] arbitrage001 : they buy btc from me to join ponzi scheme
[2016-11-15 12:18:49] arbitrage001 : bitclub, bitkindom and etc
[2016-11-15 12:20:36] elmorte : Sad la, mostly old retired ppl too
[2016-11-15 12:21:19] arbitrage001 : elmorte: yes. heard many stories of retired successful business man get conned
[2016-11-15 12:21:30] arbitrage001 : hard to imagine
[2016-11-15 12:21:47] arbitrage001 : normally, one needs to be clever to be succesful in business
[2016-11-15 12:22:02] arbitrage001 : meaning not easily get conned
[2016-11-15 12:27:44] wurstgelee : .165 new high soon ;)
[2016-11-15 12:31:51] iefken : the 24h graph on polo is funny yes :p
[2016-11-15 12:35:28] elmorte : arbitrage001: "normally, one needs to be clever to be succesful in business" Good point...
[2016-11-15 12:35:55] elmorte : So you ask your buyers why they are buying?
[2016-11-15 12:41:29] arbitrage001 : elmorte: nope
[2016-11-15 12:41:59] elmorte : yeah, I don't remember anyone ever asking me either
[2016-11-15 12:42:03] arbitrage001 : elmorte: but i will tell them i am not responsible for the coin once i sent it to them
[2016-11-15 12:47:33] elmorte : :)
[2016-11-15 12:47:42] elmorte : You play around with any alts?
[2016-11-15 12:47:54] arbitrage001 : elmorte: zcash, losing a lot of money
[2016-11-15 12:48:11] elmorte : haha...tell me about it...what a fckin idiot I was
[2016-11-15 12:48:21] arbitrage001 : but those money were profit from the beginning
[2016-11-15 12:48:27] elmorte : yeah, same :)
[2016-11-15 12:48:36] elmorte : I bought here for 2.5, sold for 9...
[2016-11-15 12:48:37] arbitrage001 : 13 btc ..
[2016-11-15 12:48:51] arbitrage001 : a year worth of salary for normal person here
[2016-11-15 12:48:57] elmorte : then I promptly lost 90% of it on Polo
[2016-11-15 12:49:11] arbitrage001 : elmorte: nice profit
[2016-11-15 12:49:19] elmorte : yeah, but I got greedy
[2016-11-15 12:49:25] arbitrage001 : same lah
[2016-11-15 12:49:30] arbitrage001 : but was good bet
[2016-11-15 12:49:34] elmorte : didn't do my homework :(
[2016-11-15 12:49:36] arbitrage001 : since the discount here were good
[2016-11-15 12:49:46] arbitrage001 : like 70% discount for 2 months
[2016-11-15 12:50:10] arbitrage001 : hard to not make a bet when discount is this deep
[2016-11-15 12:50:36] elmorte : Guess sleger was right all along...
[2016-11-15 12:50:42] elmorte : Did he make it thru without liqdn though?
[2016-11-15 12:50:55] arbitrage001 : he was short?
[2016-11-15 12:51:00] wurstgelee : iirc not
[2016-11-15 12:51:02] elmorte : yeah, from what I remeber
[2016-11-15 12:51:04] arbitrage001 : at what price?
[2016-11-15 12:51:16] wurstgelee : he was short once but got fucked like everyone else on day 1 iirc
[2016-11-15 12:51:17] elmorte : wurstgelee: wasn't short or got liqd?
[2016-11-15 12:51:34] wurstgelee : not 100% sure tho
[2016-11-15 12:52:01] elmorte : yeah, how the fck would you defend 2k BTC mark...
[2016-11-15 12:52:13] elmorte : then again, if anyone had that kinda backing...
[2016-11-15 12:52:30] wurstgelee : shorts got lucky here....
[2016-11-15 12:52:40] wurstgelee : 10 btc wall saved a lot of asses i guess
[2016-11-15 12:52:50] elmorte : shit yeah
[2016-11-15 12:53:19] arbitrage001 : not a good thing to interfere market operation
[2016-11-15 12:53:24] wurstgelee : not at all
[2016-11-15 12:53:47] wurstgelee : id cost me some money
[2016-11-15 12:53:53] wurstgelee : and also a fuckload of potential profits
[2016-11-15 12:54:00] arbitrage001 : hah
[2016-11-15 12:54:18] arbitrage001 : doubt many shorters can survive past 10 btc mark
[2016-11-15 12:54:28] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 12:54:52] wurstgelee : some guys got mc*ed on cross....
[2016-11-15 12:55:00] wurstgelee : sub 1 to 8.7something when ADl hit me
[2016-11-15 12:55:05] wurstgelee : this can only be cross
[2016-11-15 12:55:31] arbitrage001 : have to be experience traders with deep pocket
[2016-11-15 12:55:49] wurstgelee : i would use cross. ever. not on a launch day
[2016-11-15 12:55:53] arbitrage001 : may be whole year of profit gone in 1 trade
[2016-11-15 12:55:56] wurstgelee : *wouldn't
[2016-11-15 12:56:13] habibi : wurstgelee: ur adl counter party doesnt have to be on same entrys as u, he could be simple way higher on and still on fixed
[2016-11-15 12:56:45] wurstgelee : habibi: not? i thought so
[2016-11-15 12:56:49] habibi : but yea i agree a lot of accounts got wiped that day
[2016-11-15 12:57:09] wurstgelee : i didnt think that earlier bh but someone told me it is that way
[2016-11-15 12:57:27] habibi : i don't think so, all matters is ur ranking in adl quene
[2016-11-15 12:57:38] wurstgelee : makes a lot more sense anyways
[2016-11-15 12:57:43] wurstgelee : the ranking stuff
[2016-11-15 12:57:53] elmorte : there was a lot of "fckin adl" that night
[2016-11-15 12:57:57] elmorte : it was 2-3am here
[2016-11-15 12:58:19] wurstgelee : night&day were one on that day tbh
[2016-11-15 12:58:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 12:58:41] elmorte : I logged on by pure accident...
[2016-11-15 12:58:59] elmorte : saw $2 here and like 1000+ on Polo...
[2016-11-15 12:59:08] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-15 12:59:11] arbitrage001 : do you foresee another fomo on zcash soon?
[2016-11-15 12:59:18] elmorte : hell no
[2016-11-15 12:59:24] elmorte : it's damaged goods
[2016-11-15 12:59:26] arbitrage001 : same trick rarely happen twice
[2016-11-15 12:59:48] wurstgelee : it will pump. hard. really hard. the only question is "from where".
[2016-11-15 12:59:55] arbitrage001 : but the open interest here suggest otherwise
[2016-11-15 12:59:57] wurstgelee : not 3000 btc hard ofc
[2016-11-15 13:00:08] arbitrage001 : traders insist on shorting
[2016-11-15 13:00:15] elmorte : haha...I'm still holding from 800 btc...so fingers and toes crossed
[2016-11-15 13:00:31] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: most trader's dont win ;)
[2016-11-15 13:00:32] elmorte : falling knife.....fckin falling axe that was
[2016-11-15 13:00:34] wurstgelee : few do
[2016-11-15 13:00:42] wurstgelee : *-'
[2016-11-15 13:00:44] arbitrage001 : at a price favorable to long lol
[2016-11-15 13:00:48] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 13:01:52] elmorte : when the hell did they have time to fork?
[2016-11-15 13:02:20] elmorte : was there drama?
[2016-11-15 13:02:59] wurstgelee : fork?
[2016-11-15 13:03:15] elmorte : zcash....I saw you guys mentioning zclassic earlier
[2016-11-15 13:05:22] iefken : november 6
[2016-11-15 13:05:35] iefken : http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/zclassic
[2016-11-15 13:07:06] elmorte : iefken: thanks bud...I wanted your guys' perspective though
[2016-11-15 13:08:09] iefken : well, the zclassic is like the same as zcash but without the 20% fee for miners that goes to the devs
[2016-11-15 13:13:12] elmorte : cheers
[2016-11-15 13:15:42] wurstgelee : its not a fork, it's a clone
[2016-11-15 13:16:09] elmorte : yeah, you're right
[2016-11-15 13:16:38] elmorte : was just reminiscent of another coin earlier this year...name escapes me right now...
[2016-11-15 13:17:11] elmorte : so I figured it was a fork
[2016-11-15 13:22:29] Boontjie : eth
[2016-11-15 13:37:01] elmorte : Boontjie: :)
[2016-11-15 13:58:54] CrazyAlfy : The Funding Rate on XBTUSD is applied to positions every 8 hours right?
[2016-11-15 13:59:17] BitMEX_Wally : CrazyAlfy: Correct
[2016-11-15 14:00:02] CrazyAlfy : On my account I can only see PL adjustments relating to funding every 24H at 14:00?
[2016-11-15 14:00:46] DareDevil : I guess I was right about ETH
[2016-11-15 14:00:52] BitMEX_Wally : In the trade history there is a Funding entry every 8 hours: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-15 14:01:22] BitMEX_Wally : Then every 24 hours there is a wallet entry for the last 24 hours of PNL including funding
[2016-11-15 14:01:54] CrazyAlfy : Ah, thanks. I didn't see this page before.
[2016-11-15 14:02:11] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah we should probably add a link to it from the wallet page
[2016-11-15 14:02:52] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: I'll add one.
[2016-11-15 14:07:12] jung1 : hello
[2016-11-15 14:08:23] jung1 : oh
[2016-11-15 14:08:27] jung1 : finex hit 720 at 7 am
[2016-11-15 14:12:46] rasdasd : whoo huobi is mad
[2016-11-15 14:15:39] jung1 : 40yuan dump
[2016-11-15 14:17:15] rasdasd : tbh last night pump was weak
[2016-11-15 14:17:40] rasdasd : I think we are gonna test 700 again maybe lower
[2016-11-15 14:20:14] jung1 : or 720
[2016-11-15 14:20:34] rasdasd : jung1: yep it depends if you are short or long lol
[2016-11-15 14:21:02] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-11-15 14:28:58] CrazyAlfy : Is BitMEX planning to allow clients to segregate their accounts? This is useful when implementing multiple trading strategies to track PL of them separately. For example like Bitstamp’s sub accounts.
[2016-11-15 14:30:16] DareDevil : waiting for REKT shorts on ETH :D
[2016-11-15 14:34:51] elmorte : jung1: sup
[2016-11-15 14:37:55] jung1 : hello
[2016-11-15 14:37:55] jung1 : quite good
[2016-11-15 14:38:02] jung1 : green on charts
[2016-11-15 14:39:30] BitMEX_Greg : CrazyAlfy: Hi, We don't have anything like that currently but I believe it has been requested before
[2016-11-15 14:42:43] RocketScience : 500 btc buywall on eth
[2016-11-15 14:42:57] RocketScience : at 143
[2016-11-15 14:43:55] jung1 : yeah eth seems to recover
[2016-11-15 14:43:59] wurstgelee : buy walls are for selling, sell walls are for buying... ;)
[2016-11-15 14:44:00] DareDevil : guess I was right about ETH :)
[2016-11-15 14:44:20] DareDevil : [2016-11-15 10:23:50] DareDevil : ETH will pump today I think
[2016-11-15 14:44:26] DareDevil : 15:44 now :D
[2016-11-15 14:46:44] jung1 : btc orderbook i empty
[2016-11-15 14:46:55] jung1 : see ya at 717
[2016-11-15 14:47:45] jung1 : *If china do not have different plans
[2016-11-15 14:48:15] wurstgelee : so...how long until bitmex market considers the option that zec bottom already happened? :p
[2016-11-15 14:48:17] AudibleScience : jung1: hey how's it going man
[2016-11-15 14:49:55] jung1 : AudibleScience: hi
[2016-11-15 14:50:35] jung1 : quite good, couple of good ico investments, some loss on margin but cant complain
[2016-11-15 14:50:40] jung1 : :)
[2016-11-15 14:50:57] AudibleScience : nice
[2016-11-15 14:54:22] rafa : Any one getting some nexium?
[2016-11-15 14:54:45] mjones : new zec high. lets short more on bitmex
[2016-11-15 14:58:25] jung1 : https://twitter.com/MyceliumCom/status/798397088396673024
[2016-11-15 15:00:45] mjones : i use mycelium
[2016-11-15 15:01:09] wurstgelee : mjones: ;)
[2016-11-15 15:04:14] wurstgelee : .178 ....
[2016-11-15 15:04:15] wurstgelee : nice
[2016-11-15 15:04:18] mjones : 0.18
[2016-11-15 15:04:20] wurstgelee : .180
[2016-11-15 15:04:21] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 15:04:34] mjones : someone has BTC to throw away. assuming no one comes in for them to dump on
[2016-11-15 15:04:48] wurstgelee : why would u assume that?
[2016-11-15 15:05:20] wurstgelee : anyways, time for a queeze here i guess ;)
[2016-11-15 15:05:23] wurstgelee : *s
[2016-11-15 15:05:38] mjones : $123 times 3000 = $369,000 in new coins a day
[2016-11-15 15:05:56] arbitrage001 : wee
[2016-11-15 15:06:08] arbitrage001 : zcash going up
[2016-11-15 15:06:22] arbitrage001 : short squeeze baby
[2016-11-15 15:06:39] mjones : you know zec doesnt go up on bitmex
[2016-11-15 15:06:54] arbitrage001 : yesterday low was .12
[2016-11-15 15:06:58] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 15:07:00] arbitrage001 : now 0.18
[2016-11-15 15:07:12] arbitrage001 : got to have balls to short in this environment
[2016-11-15 15:07:15] mjones : polo pump stalling already and it barely moved on here
[2016-11-15 15:07:21] wurstgelee : also formed a nice, roung bottom in the last 2 days
[2016-11-15 15:07:25] arbitrage001 : bravery award to shorty
[2016-11-15 15:07:31] wurstgelee : big volume signle-orders are all buys
[2016-11-15 15:07:39] wurstgelee : *single
[2016-11-15 15:08:02] wurstgelee : mjones: it really doesnt matter. we will come closer to polo...
[2016-11-15 15:08:06] wurstgelee : each day a little bit
[2016-11-15 15:08:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 15:08:32] mjones : i dont know why someone just doesnt move the wall up to .1 and get this party started
[2016-11-15 15:08:34] wurstgelee : also saying it is "stalling" 5 mins after a new high....
[2016-11-15 15:08:35] wurstgelee : really?
[2016-11-15 15:08:36] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 15:08:36] iefken : yes, but im afraid polo will come to bitmex price, and not the other way around :p
[2016-11-15 15:09:12] Rado : iefken: that is exactly what will happen
[2016-11-15 15:09:14] wurstgelee : mjones: no need. its risky/expensive, if u want more longs, patience will do
[2016-11-15 15:09:41] iefken : Rado: which one is
[2016-11-15 15:09:53] wurstgelee : i got ~ 40 filled the last 24 h, all at or below ~ .06
[2016-11-15 15:10:08] arbitrage001 : nice
[2016-11-15 15:10:12] Rado : Polo and Zec will met at 0.03 on Dec 30
[2016-11-15 15:10:18] wurstgelee : Rado: no ;)
[2016-11-15 15:10:19] iefken : some fake buywall of 250 contracts :p
[2016-11-15 15:10:21] arbitrage001 : i still have a huge bid at 0.01
[2016-11-15 15:10:38] Rado : wurstgelee: make a picture of my post
[2016-11-15 15:10:53] wurstgelee : Rado: no need, we have a chat archive here
[2016-11-15 15:10:54] iefken : lol someone is showing off
[2016-11-15 15:10:59] zcashequalslambo : ZEC to the moon
[2016-11-15 15:10:59] Rado : lol
[2016-11-15 15:11:05] mjones : move that wall higher.
[2016-11-15 15:11:35] arbitrage001 : Rado: how you arrive the 0.03 figure?
[2016-11-15 15:11:38] iefken : go go up to 0.25, then i can short again
[2016-11-15 15:11:42] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: guessing
[2016-11-15 15:11:47] wurstgelee : based on wishes
[2016-11-15 15:11:49] Rado : arbitrage001: just a guess
[2016-11-15 15:11:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 15:12:22] arbitrage001 : i also have wish
[2016-11-15 15:12:27] arbitrage001 : spike to 2 btc
[2016-11-15 15:12:30] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-15 15:12:31] Rado : if I invest 3 BTC in a short I can make about 7 BTC
[2016-11-15 15:12:33] Rado : not bad
[2016-11-15 15:12:34] arbitrage001 : i am sure my position will get adl
[2016-11-15 15:12:54] wurstgelee : at least part of it ;)
[2016-11-15 15:13:12] arbitrage001 : dont care what happen to price after
[2016-11-15 15:13:19] wurstgelee : hehe, ofc not
[2016-11-15 15:13:32] wurstgelee : preferably a crash tho so i can refill....
[2016-11-15 15:14:23] Rado : ETH Hardfork No. 4: Spurious Dragon
[2016-11-15 15:14:33] arbitrage001 : again?
[2016-11-15 15:14:50] Rado : crazy isn't it
[2016-11-15 15:14:55] wurstgelee : the forked fork of the forked fork
[2016-11-15 15:15:00] arbitrage001 : how many eth version is traded on polo
[2016-11-15 15:15:22] habibi : arbitrage001: two, original one and eth
[2016-11-15 15:15:23] habibi : :D
[2016-11-15 15:15:35] wurstgelee : fork^4 and eth
[2016-11-15 15:15:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 15:16:20] wurstgelee : .180 doesnt look like a blow off top....
[2016-11-15 15:16:23] wurstgelee : excellent ;)
[2016-11-15 15:17:00] Rado : it will be back to 0.16 in no time
[2016-11-15 15:17:13] Rado : and I am not kidding
[2016-11-15 15:17:15] wurstgelee : define "no time"
[2016-11-15 15:17:18] Rado : it's so clear
[2016-11-15 15:17:19] arbitrage001 : wish trading is that simple
[2016-11-15 15:17:21] Rado : 2 hours
[2016-11-15 15:17:26] wurstgelee : i disagree
[2016-11-15 15:17:37] Rado : we only need to wait 2 hours to see who is right
[2016-11-15 15:17:43] wurstgelee : yep, thats great ;)
[2016-11-15 15:17:49] wurstgelee : way better than dec 30...
[2016-11-15 15:17:55] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-15 15:18:36] Rado : there is no metterial reason why ZEC is going up
[2016-11-15 15:18:55] wurstgelee : except pump ofc
[2016-11-15 15:18:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 15:19:00] Rado : the only reason is some buyers that think they caught the bottom
[2016-11-15 15:19:07] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-15 15:19:16] wurstgelee : and the last 36h+ make it look like that
[2016-11-15 15:19:21] Rado : they are very very early
[2016-11-15 15:19:28] wurstgelee : very early, very risky ofc
[2016-11-15 15:19:28] iefken : Rado: indeed... the amount of zcoin will be x10 at 30 dec..
[2016-11-15 15:19:47] wurstgelee : the amount doesnt matter. its about the cost to produce them....
[2016-11-15 15:19:50] Rado : iefken: it's not about the amount of coins
[2016-11-15 15:19:51] wurstgelee : mining costs
[2016-11-15 15:20:06] arbitrage001 : shhhshh
[2016-11-15 15:20:09] arbitrage001 : dont spill the secret
[2016-11-15 15:20:14] wurstgelee : i have been telling that over and over again, he doesnt seem to be able or want to understand ;)
[2016-11-15 15:20:59] wurstgelee : iefken: u should short. price will be 10% of what it is today then...
[2016-11-15 15:21:02] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-15 15:22:04] jung1 : what about zcash classic?
[2016-11-15 15:22:18] arbitrage001 : who is leading the classic?
[2016-11-15 15:22:21] wurstgelee : nothing
[2016-11-15 15:22:33] wurstgelee : zcl is trying to pull a p&d with the zcash hype..
[2016-11-15 15:22:37] wurstgelee : thats all imo
[2016-11-15 15:23:36] iefken : isnt the total marketcap responsible for the price? interest in the coin may grow thus the overall price aswell, but if the price of 36k zec today is 130$ a piece, doesnt that correlate with the price if the amount of zec rises to 300k+?
[2016-11-15 15:24:47] arbitrage001 : iefken: price is a function of supply and demand
[2016-11-15 15:25:10] arbitrage001 : everyone who has shorted zcash only uses supply as argument
[2016-11-15 15:25:21] arbitrage001 : nobody can predict demand
[2016-11-15 15:25:25] iefken : yes and supply will be 10times it is today
[2016-11-15 15:26:02] mjones : maybe a billionaire is interested in ZEC and will buy everything at $125 for the next year
[2016-11-15 15:26:02] iefken : im pretty sure the demand wont increase more than 10times that of today...
[2016-11-15 15:26:02] arbitrage001 : what happen if demand is 11 times it is today
[2016-11-15 15:26:32] viptrader : hey guys
[2016-11-15 15:26:42] viptrader : can i change my position from fixed to cross
[2016-11-15 15:26:45] viptrader : after it's opened?
[2016-11-15 15:26:56] iefken : arbitrage001: well, then you would be right :p
[2016-11-15 15:26:57] BitMEX_Wally : viptrader: Yes, just drag the leverage slider
[2016-11-15 15:27:04] iefken : viptrader: at the left
[2016-11-15 15:27:14] viptrader : and it will stay X100 position?
[2016-11-15 15:27:32] BitMEX_Wally : The position size does not change with leverage, just the amount of margin allocated to it
[2016-11-15 15:27:39] viptrader : awesome
[2016-11-15 15:27:43] viptrader : another question
[2016-11-15 15:27:51] Tetsuo : Chickun is ready to take off in face of the upcoming BAD BAD NEWS about BTC hardforks and bans that will be released soon!
[2016-11-15 15:27:57] viptrader : which way is lower fees for long term trade in btc
[2016-11-15 15:28:00] viptrader : long position
[2016-11-15 15:28:08] Tetsuo : short
[2016-11-15 15:28:15] viptrader : long
[2016-11-15 15:28:15] Tetsuo : it´s smaller
[2016-11-15 15:28:44] viptrader : if i want to long and leave it for some month/weeks
[2016-11-15 15:28:51] viptrader : swap or dec 30 is better?
[2016-11-15 15:29:06] BitMEX_Wally : XBTZ16 is a future so you pay a known premium up front, XBTUSD is a swap so you get a variable funding rate
[2016-11-15 15:29:29] BitMEX_Wally : The implied basis rate on XBTZ16 is currently 21% per year
[2016-11-15 15:29:51] wurstgelee : Rado: 1:48 h left. :p
[2016-11-15 15:29:55] BitMEX_Wally : So equivalent to a funding rate of 0.02% every 8 hours
[2016-11-15 15:30:22] wurstgelee : and a new high...
[2016-11-15 15:30:24] sleger : but with the swap you may even earn money instead of paying !!
[2016-11-15 15:30:39] mjones : @Tetsuo LTC/USD monthly BBANDS :-O http://i.imgur.com/KLIEMWj.png
[2016-11-15 15:30:43] BitMEX_Wally : Indeed, but on average it is a positive funding rate so longs pay :)
[2016-11-15 15:30:54] CapitalGains : Is the funding on the swap meant to be interest to the people who are short on BTC, i.e. lending their BTC?
[2016-11-15 15:31:04] sleger : but that was over a period where the price went up @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-11-15 15:31:09] Tetsuo : mjones: bullish as fukk
[2016-11-15 15:31:10] BitMEX_Wally : CapitalGains: Effectively yes, it is paid from longs to shorts
[2016-11-15 15:31:16] mjones : LTC/USD montly bbands tight and gettiunggetting tighter for 8 months
[2016-11-15 15:31:34] wurstgelee : 1 /Satoshi:0.13.1/ 1512 (27.92%)
[2016-11-15 15:31:37] wurstgelee : not bad
[2016-11-15 15:31:42] CapitalGains : What exactly would make there be negative funding?
[2016-11-15 15:31:46] BitMEX_Wally : But if you are short XBTUSD you're locked into dollars so effectively lending USD
[2016-11-15 15:31:59] mjones : 11 of the last 16 months LTC/USD barely moved
[2016-11-15 15:32:01] BitMEX_Wally : CapitalGains: If there was a negative premium index, i.e. the swap was trading below the index price
[2016-11-15 15:32:18] jung1 : Im suprised that LTC is still alive
[2016-11-15 15:32:24] wurstgelee : it isnt
[2016-11-15 15:32:26] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-15 15:32:39] jung1 : there was like ZERO info about development or anything in last 2 years
[2016-11-15 15:33:14] jung1 : and it is still 4th biggest currency
[2016-11-15 15:33:24] arbitrage001 : jung1: they have specifically said there will be no change
[2016-11-15 15:33:28] jung1 : with 183mln market cap
[2016-11-15 15:33:29] Tetsuo : jung1: if anything happens to BTC there is still LTC
[2016-11-15 15:33:30] arbitrage001 : to dinosaur coin
[2016-11-15 15:33:56] arbitrage001 : since the claim they made on asic resistance
[2016-11-15 15:33:57] Tetsuo : and BTC will get hardforked sooner or later, that´s when chickun will start to shine
[2016-11-15 15:34:03] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: if BTC dies, we will pay with rocks.... ;)
[2016-11-15 15:34:40] Tetsuo : well, LTC is rocksolid
[2016-11-15 15:35:02] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-15 15:35:06] wurstgelee : wel known fact =)
[2016-11-15 15:35:08] wurstgelee : *l
[2016-11-15 15:35:19] Tetsuo : good, so better start buying!
[2016-11-15 15:35:25] wurstgelee : lol no
[2016-11-15 15:35:52] arbitrage001 : there is little downside risk on ltc
[2016-11-15 15:36:04] arbitrage001 : already rock bottom
[2016-11-15 15:36:08] jung1 : lets wait for keiser to tell us when to buy
[2016-11-15 15:36:11] arbitrage001 : anyone shorting is insane also
[2016-11-15 15:36:26] wurstgelee : not so sure about that...
[2016-11-15 15:37:08] wurstgelee : i already thought that @ 0.063
[2016-11-15 15:37:21] wurstgelee : which was wrong, obviously ;)
[2016-11-15 15:37:23] arbitrage001 : low was 1.xx dollars i think
[2016-11-15 15:37:34] arbitrage001 : should have load up at that price
[2016-11-15 15:37:36] jung1 : that pump to $50 was insane
[2016-11-15 15:37:43] jung1 : I remamber that
[2016-11-15 15:37:56] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 15:37:59] jung1 : when keiser was on mtxnow chat also
[2016-11-15 15:38:01] wurstgelee : only from the sidelines tho
[2016-11-15 15:38:14] wurstgelee : haha, yep.. keiser @ mcxnow...good times
[2016-11-15 15:38:23] jung1 : mcx yeah
[2016-11-15 15:38:45] jung1 : but those mcxshares was one of best idea ever
[2016-11-15 15:38:49] jung1 : bitmex should make it here also
[2016-11-15 15:39:02] jung1 : leved it
[2016-11-15 15:39:14] wurstgelee : i dont really see the point tbh... why would bitmex do that?
[2016-11-15 15:39:57] jung1 : to make money and create completly new investing instrument
[2016-11-15 15:40:07] arbitrage001 : they are expanding very quick
[2016-11-15 15:40:20] arbitrage001 : already in profit mode
[2016-11-15 15:40:31] arbitrage001 : dont think they have much to worry
[2016-11-15 15:40:49] arbitrage001 : have the right business model that is
[2016-11-15 15:41:10] jung1 : there was 10000 mcxshares wchich was 25% of all income from fees of exchange. In every 8h there was payout and there was mcxshare/btc market so everyone coud trade it and buy
[2016-11-15 15:41:11] sleger : ETH hf is ready !
[2016-11-15 15:41:23] arbitrage001 : hf?
[2016-11-15 15:41:43] NL007 : hi
[2016-11-15 15:41:52] sleger : hf !
[2016-11-15 15:42:16] jung1 : huobi is back
[2016-11-15 15:43:00] BitMEX_Sam : We watched a few exchanges do that re: selling fee shares, for example Bleutrade did it but appears to have had trouble
[2016-11-15 15:43:49] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: would imagine the idea wont work as good here
[2016-11-15 15:44:03] BitMEX_Sam : It actually went really terribly for them.
[2016-11-15 15:44:24] arbitrage001 : since the share dividend need to be higher than btc future to attract traders
[2016-11-15 15:44:32] BitMEX_Sam : In our case, we're not interested in the investment, the complication, or the regulatory headaches
[2016-11-15 15:45:45] wurstgelee : summary: we dont give a fuck about fee shares
[2016-11-15 15:45:49] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-15 15:46:21] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: you should consider to give a 20% discount for users that achive 10000< total referred bitcoin traded
[2016-11-15 15:46:57] wurstgelee : y? ;)
[2016-11-15 15:47:14] wurstgelee : from the pov of bitmex? just curious :)
[2016-11-15 15:47:23] sleger : and a 10000$ bonus to all chat users with this <= green color
[2016-11-15 15:47:28] wurstgelee : sleger: hehe
[2016-11-15 15:47:45] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Sam: Will you finally start LTC&ETC deposits once they go above 1???
[2016-11-15 15:47:50] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: where did you come up with $10k? haha
[2016-11-15 15:47:57] sleger : just a random number
[2016-11-15 15:47:59] DareDevil : What do these colors mean anyway?
[2016-11-15 15:48:09] sleger : DareDevil: you are a chosen one
[2016-11-15 15:48:13] Tetsuo : privilege
[2016-11-15 15:48:16] DareDevil : nice ;-)
[2016-11-15 15:48:27] wurstgelee : green pays dividends to
[2016-11-15 15:48:28] wurstgelee : <-
[2016-11-15 15:48:47] DareDevil : wurstgelee: good luck from my wallet ;-)
[2016-11-15 15:48:51] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-15 15:49:13] BitMEX_Greg : jung1: That is the affiliate payout though, 20% for > 10,000 XBT traded
[2016-11-15 15:50:10] sleger : he wants a 20% fee discount
[2016-11-15 15:50:18] wurstgelee : my referrals are cheapasses
[2016-11-15 15:51:34] sleger : Total Turnover 68,467.1914 XBT
[2016-11-15 15:52:00] sleger : is there a way to know my own total turnover ?
[2016-11-15 15:52:00] wurstgelee : sleger: u referred ur 2nd account? ;)
[2016-11-15 15:52:14] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: trade history?
[2016-11-15 15:52:19] sleger : wurstgelee: no, i introduced my friend Rob-Otte to bitmex
[2016-11-15 15:52:31] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: how do i sum millions of trades ?
[2016-11-15 15:52:32] Tetsuo : altough we all know that ETC is the superior coin, ETH doesn´t look to shabby here
[2016-11-15 15:52:32] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-15 15:52:58] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: =SUM(.....)
[2016-11-15 15:53:18] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: yes because 1 eth = 1xbt = 1 usd ....
[2016-11-15 15:53:26] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: would be nice to displa taht value somehwere in account statsu tho... ;)
[2016-11-15 15:53:27] BitMEX_Greg : =SUMPRODUCT(...)
[2016-11-15 15:53:33] lockhedge : sleger: simpleCumQty
[2016-11-15 15:53:53] sleger : and how do i download ALL the trades in one csv ?
[2016-11-15 15:54:21] wurstgelee : magic
[2016-11-15 15:55:14] Tetsuo : could we please get another 6 - 12 m lasting bear trend for BTC
[2016-11-15 15:55:26] Rado : anyone buying Zcrypt [ZXT]?
[2016-11-15 15:56:20] sleger : Tetsuo: sorry that is not possible right now. However we may consider doing something fun with LTC in exchange
[2016-11-15 15:56:30] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: https://github.com/BitMEX/easy-data-scripts
[2016-11-15 15:57:12] Tetsuo : sleger: rockets are fun
[2016-11-15 15:57:19] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: since you already do it for affilitate, there might be an easier way. Besides I cant write bitmex code anymore
[2016-11-15 15:58:01] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Your total turnover is 86592 XBT
[2016-11-15 15:58:07] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: thanks !
[2016-11-15 15:58:28] Tetsuo : pfffff
[2016-11-15 15:59:18] Rado : that's almost as much as my turnover
[2016-11-15 15:59:19] Rado : ;-)
[2016-11-15 15:59:36] Tetsuo : even dwarfs started small
[2016-11-15 15:59:51] sleger : that is no-bot volume
[2016-11-15 15:59:51] jung1 : nice
[2016-11-15 16:01:25] rapidtrades : another hard fork?
[2016-11-15 16:01:33] sleger : the more the merrier
[2016-11-15 16:01:50] rapidtrades : ZEC never forked, just sayin
[2016-11-15 16:01:59] Rado : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-15 16:02:05] Rado : wurstgelee: 0.16s are here already
[2016-11-15 16:02:21] jung1 : hehe
[2016-11-15 16:02:21] jung1 : after like one week
[2016-11-15 16:02:21] jung1 : there is already zec classic
[2016-11-15 16:02:42] Rado : ZEC calssic did a wrong choice of name
[2016-11-15 16:02:49] jung1 : huobubobu 4940
[2016-11-15 16:03:00] rapidtrades : yeah it's not really classic if u change the original code
[2016-11-15 16:03:14] rapidtrades : u can't stop ppl forking FROM YOU
[2016-11-15 16:03:41] Rado : you can if you make it none open source
[2016-11-15 16:03:46] rapidtrades : No hard fork has been initiated by our great developers
[2016-11-15 16:03:47] Rado : but then people will not trust you
[2016-11-15 16:04:21] wurstgelee : Rado: .168
[2016-11-15 16:04:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 16:04:29] rapidtrades : my bank delayed my transfer for days then finally sent it back, what a joke
[2016-11-15 16:04:30] Rado : told ya
[2016-11-15 16:04:34] Rado : it's so easy to predict
[2016-11-15 16:04:41] rapidtrades : now i gotta meet with ppl like a crack dealer
[2016-11-15 16:04:44] wurstgelee : its not going to .16 within the next ~ 75 mins
[2016-11-15 16:04:57] Rado : until it gets to where other alts are it will do one thing only
[2016-11-15 16:05:32] Rado : wurstgelee: never say never
[2016-11-15 16:05:35] wurstgelee : buying volume is a lot more than selling atm
[2016-11-15 16:05:44] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: will u do localbitcoins, lol`? that is low
[2016-11-15 16:05:49] wurstgelee : still possible ofc if someone with a bunch of zec decides to market dump
[2016-11-15 16:05:58] sleger : rapidtrades: dont worry they will be more afraid of you than you are of them
[2016-11-15 16:06:04] Rado : lets say I have a mining pool for ZEC
[2016-11-15 16:06:23] Rado : I want to offer my customers conversion to BTC so they don't have to worry about selling on the exchange
[2016-11-15 16:06:34] Rado : when I need to dump a lot of ZEC on Polo what do you think I will do?
[2016-11-15 16:06:38] rapidtrades : sleger: ur right, Im the one selling BTC
[2016-11-15 16:06:39] wurstgelee : why would u do that?
[2016-11-15 16:07:02] Rado : I am going to pump the price to get suckers in and then dump on them
[2016-11-15 16:07:10] wurstgelee : why make the risk of heavily fluctuating prices your risk?
[2016-11-15 16:07:20] wurstgelee : yeah, u could do that ofc
[2016-11-15 16:07:22] wurstgelee : but risky
[2016-11-15 16:07:25] Rado : that's exactly why
[2016-11-15 16:07:36] Rado : I want my mined ZEC to be converted to BTC right away
[2016-11-15 16:07:40] elmorte : Rado: how easy is it to pump a coin?
[2016-11-15 16:07:49] Rado : very easy
[2016-11-15 16:07:54] wurstgelee : if u are a pool operator with a rasonable percentage of nethash, u are already doing more than well... ;9
[2016-11-15 16:07:59] elmorte : like...?
[2016-11-15 16:08:03] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-15 16:08:38] wurstgelee : anyways, watch it go above .170 soon ;)
[2016-11-15 16:08:47] wurstgelee : *again
[2016-11-15 16:08:49] Rado : elmorte: 10 BTC and you can push teh price of ZEC up on Polo
[2016-11-15 16:09:05] Rado : then you can dump the same 10BTC when fomo trarders pile in
[2016-11-15 16:09:09] wurstgelee : Rado: with a hughe risk of getting dumped on
[2016-11-15 16:09:11] wurstgelee : not worth i
[2016-11-15 16:09:13] wurstgelee : *-e
[2016-11-15 16:09:24] Rado : wurstgelee: who is going to dump on you?
[2016-11-15 16:09:30] elmorte : Damn, that's not a lot at all..
[2016-11-15 16:09:32] Rado : everyone is under
[2016-11-15 16:09:39] Rado : no one is in profit
[2016-11-15 16:09:42] wurstgelee : if everyone is under, it wont go down
[2016-11-15 16:09:44] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 16:09:52] Rado : it will
[2016-11-15 16:09:58] Rado : because miners will sell
[2016-11-15 16:10:00] wurstgelee : because everyone isnt :p