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[2016-11-14 20:26:37] daimenw : lol
[2016-11-14 20:27:08] mjones : Wtf zec. I closed my long and then pump wall appears
[2016-11-14 20:27:32] fineregex : mjones: thats how they opperate
[2016-11-14 20:27:42] fineregex : mjones: just waiting for you to close your long
[2016-11-14 20:28:00] wurstgelee : aka fill buys...
[2016-11-14 20:28:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-14 20:28:37] mjones : 100x btc long instead then. Almost new high
[2016-11-14 20:28:48] daimenw : yup, about to break highs
[2016-11-14 20:29:08] wurstgelee : ofc, quarterlies did...
[2016-11-14 20:29:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-14 20:29:48] daimenw : there we go
[2016-11-14 20:30:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1005 @ 704.32
[2016-11-14 20:31:06] sleger : ^bye bye jung1
[2016-11-14 20:31:12] sleger : or maybe buy buy
[2016-11-14 20:31:15] wurstgelee : lolz :D
[2016-11-14 20:31:19] jung1 : buy buy
[2016-11-14 20:31:26] daimenw : buy buyyy
[2016-11-14 20:31:32] rapidtrades : BUY OR DIE
[2016-11-14 20:31:32] jung1 : closed my short at -11%'
[2016-11-14 20:31:37] daimenw : XD
[2016-11-14 20:31:42] sleger : just 9 more times pleaswe
[2016-11-14 20:31:51] wurstgelee : this looks good...
[2016-11-14 20:32:15] jung1 : hhe nt so easy
[2016-11-14 20:32:36] jung1 : huobi 4880
[2016-11-14 20:32:56] wurstgelee : quarterlies get pumped aggressively with walls
[2016-11-14 20:34:02] prospecta : zec to 2 btc
[2016-11-14 20:34:11] rapidtrades : go go ZEC
[2016-11-14 20:34:51] rapidtrades : Is Zcash the New Donald Trump? Our Experts Say YES!
[2016-11-14 20:35:04] prospecta : make zec great again
[2016-11-14 20:35:21] jung1 : funny
[2016-11-14 20:35:43] jung1 : zecs isfrst altcoin that is pumped during btc pump
[2016-11-14 20:38:02] daimenw : yup
[2016-11-14 20:38:03] daimenw : lol
[2016-11-14 20:38:06] daimenw : les goo
[2016-11-14 20:39:11] sleger : maybe its only because of the purse.io news
[2016-11-14 20:40:24] wurstgelee : 21:34 - rapidtrades: Is Zcash the New Donald Trump? Our Experts Say YES!
[2016-11-14 20:40:25] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-14 20:40:28] wurstgelee : that was actually funny
[2016-11-14 20:40:32] jung1 : another new highs on huobubob
[2016-11-14 20:42:33] sleger : jung1: i dont want you to profit so i'm going to stop the rally for now until you go short again
[2016-11-14 20:42:57] jung1 : you dont blive in karma dot you?
[2016-11-14 20:43:12] daimenw : shorting 500
[2016-11-14 20:43:16] sleger : I dot
[2016-11-14 20:43:33] sleger : daimenw: 500 btc ? good choice !
[2016-11-14 20:43:45] rasdasd : longs are gonna get rkt
[2016-11-14 20:43:48] daimenw : yup
[2016-11-14 20:43:54] daimenw : rasdasd: definitely
[2016-11-14 20:45:12] rasdasd : this is just a short squeeze
[2016-11-14 20:45:13] mjones : Btc and zec and xmr dumping
[2016-11-14 20:45:48] daimenw : easy
[2016-11-14 20:46:30] Tetsuo : Pump failed!
[2016-11-14 20:46:49] wurstgelee : which one?
[2016-11-14 20:46:51] sleger : Tetsuo: i just wanted to scare jung1 so i moved the price up a bit
[2016-11-14 20:47:06] Tetsuo : well, he closed, so good work!
[2016-11-14 20:47:21] jung1 : I will remember that
[2016-11-14 20:47:34] Tetsuo : jung1: plz stop trolling
[2016-11-14 20:47:50] wurstgelee : jung1: please calm down
[2016-11-14 20:48:08] daimenw : 100x btc long
[2016-11-14 20:48:27] Tetsuo : daimenw: r u a friend of mjones?
[2016-11-14 20:48:34] daimenw : no
[2016-11-14 20:48:38] wurstgelee : r u mjones?
[2016-11-14 20:48:38] Tetsuo : k
[2016-11-14 20:48:41] daimenw : y
[2016-11-14 20:48:50] fineregex : sleger: what about pursei.io?
[2016-11-14 20:49:03] sleger : they accept zcash
[2016-11-14 20:49:17] Bacon futures trader : Does the bitmex most profitable trader scoreboard still exist?
[2016-11-14 20:49:31] jung1 : http://www.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-futures-might-be-coming-soon-1479143252
[2016-11-14 20:49:40] daimenw : lets move up boys
[2016-11-14 20:50:02] Bacon futures trader : Yeah, I've seen it aswell. CME got a whole section on their website. Sick.
[2016-11-14 20:50:26] jung1 : future is now
[2016-11-14 20:51:13] daimenw : jung1: lol
[2016-11-14 20:54:44] sleger : ^must be some kind of chinese got I don't get
[2016-11-14 20:54:49] martinium : is big wall street money comes into BTC value would have to increase substantially since btc supply is so limited
[2016-11-14 20:54:52] sleger : *chinese joke
[2016-11-14 20:55:13] martinium : unless they make it so etf shares are each worth 1 satoshi
[2016-11-14 20:56:04] sleger : huh people will just buy more shares dummy
[2016-11-14 20:56:11] daimenw : lol
[2016-11-14 20:56:47] martinium : lol
[2016-11-14 20:56:52] jung1 : teywill make ICO
[2016-11-14 20:57:19] martinium : I'm alluding to if the ETF will have actual BTC assets or not
[2016-11-14 20:57:28] martinium : wonder how they will work it out
[2016-11-14 20:58:53] sleger : of course it will
[2016-11-14 20:59:32] sleger : okay lets go a bit higher now
[2016-11-14 20:59:39] martinium : increased demand on the limited supply alone is bullish especially if COIN etf goes live soon
[2016-11-14 21:00:15] sleger : maybe he doesnt know there are new coins found (mined) every day
[2016-11-14 21:00:30] daimenw : Yes but its becoming more and more dificult to mine them
[2016-11-14 21:00:48] daimenw : its exponentially increasingly difficult
[2016-11-14 21:01:03] sleger : well they still find them at the same rate and thats what matters
[2016-11-14 21:01:04] martinium : less and less
[2016-11-14 21:01:09] martinium : yep
[2016-11-14 21:01:15] martinium : scarcity is the key here
[2016-11-14 21:01:25] martinium : scarce, useful and valuable currency
[2016-11-14 21:01:34] martinium : recipe for MOON
[2016-11-14 21:01:36] daimenw : thats why long term trading btc is very valuale
[2016-11-14 21:01:44] daimenw : its gonna boom very soon
[2016-11-14 21:01:52] jung1 : yup
[2016-11-14 21:01:54] daimenw : good idea to hold onto a few
[2016-11-14 21:01:58] martinium : yup
[2016-11-14 21:02:11] jung1 : I think all of us belive tat and this is why we are here
[2016-11-14 21:02:20] daimenw : I have several in a cold account for when this happens, but the rest i trade daily with
[2016-11-14 21:02:57] daimenw : okay lets move this up
[2016-11-14 21:03:17] jung1 : sleger: do we have your permission?
[2016-11-14 21:03:18] QuantFocus : except downtrend just started 2 days ago
[2016-11-14 21:03:32] QuantFocus : we've got at least a week to move downward and load up
[2016-11-14 21:03:58] sleger : nah some asshole just bought a ton so it has to go up now
[2016-11-14 21:04:00] martinium : retested 680 again over weekend
[2016-11-14 21:04:16] QuantFocus : sleger: was it you?
[2016-11-14 21:04:22] sleger : possibly
[2016-11-14 21:04:26] daimenw : XD
[2016-11-14 21:04:35] QuantFocus : the description fits appropriately enough
[2016-11-14 21:04:40] QuantFocus : jk jk
[2016-11-14 21:08:06] hhhhh : a lot of assholes seem to be buying :)
[2016-11-14 21:08:26] daimenw : buy buy
[2016-11-14 21:08:41] QuantFocus : i'll buy at the 650 flash crash
[2016-11-14 21:08:53] daimenw : lol
[2016-11-14 21:09:00] QuantFocus : maybe 620
[2016-11-14 21:09:05] daimenw : gl
[2016-11-14 21:09:10] hhhhh : QuantFocus: lmfao
[2016-11-14 21:09:15] QuantFocus : don't need luck when you have talent
[2016-11-14 21:09:29] jung1 : our chinese friends seem pumping
[2016-11-14 21:09:41] QuantFocus : yea, to get you dipshits to buy in before they dump
[2016-11-14 21:09:57] daimenw : dont get emotional quant
[2016-11-14 21:10:21] QuantFocus : who's emotional?
[2016-11-14 21:10:29] rapidtrades : let the shorts blow off steam
[2016-11-14 21:10:36] daimenw : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-14 21:10:43] daimenw : there we go
[2016-11-14 21:10:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5491 @ 706.67
[2016-11-14 21:10:51] daimenw : up up and away
[2016-11-14 21:11:06] QuantFocus : i'm long, for the record. on the quarterly
[2016-11-14 21:11:18] QuantFocus : but i'll be adding lower
[2016-11-14 21:11:25] daimenw : right that changes everything
[2016-11-14 21:11:33] daimenw : you seemed like a pissed off short first
[2016-11-14 21:11:34] rapidtrades : QuantFocus: tnx ur now on the record
[2016-11-14 21:11:45] QuantFocus : tip of the hat to you SIR
[2016-11-14 21:12:12] daimenw : were any of you around for the dump when btc was at 1200?
[2016-11-14 21:12:23] QuantFocus : yep
[2016-11-14 21:12:43] daimenw : most beautiful time of my life lol
[2016-11-14 21:13:17] jung1 : nah I just sold it
[2016-11-14 21:13:26] aethlios : I am in crypto since sept 2013
[2016-11-14 21:13:34] jung1 : without going short
[2016-11-14 21:13:42] daimenw : jung1: damn, u missed out
[2016-11-14 21:14:04] jung1 : yeah wasnt into margin trading then
[2016-11-14 21:15:00] sleger : i remember selling some futures at > 2000$
[2016-11-14 21:15:15] fineregex : sleger: when? where?
[2016-11-14 21:15:28] sleger : icbit, then renamed to orderbook.net, now closed
[2016-11-14 21:15:43] sleger : i think they were the first futures exchange for btc
[2016-11-14 21:17:01] rapidtrades : sleger: dam
[2016-11-14 21:17:23] rapidtrades : there were no clawbacks back then i think
[2016-11-14 21:17:31] jung1 : nice
[2016-11-14 21:17:47] jung1 : I though that finex was first with futures
[2016-11-14 21:17:56] sleger : jung1: finex has futures ???
[2016-11-14 21:18:08] jung1 : nonono
[2016-11-14 21:18:11] jung1 : with margin
[2016-11-14 21:18:13] jung1 : no futures
[2016-11-14 21:18:19] sleger : " jung1: I though that finex was first with futures"
[2016-11-14 21:18:20] jung1 : my mistake
[2016-11-14 21:18:23] jung1 : yeah
[2016-11-14 21:18:32] rapidtrades : bitcoinica had 3/1?
[2016-11-14 21:18:42] sleger : never traded there
[2016-11-14 21:19:13] BitMEX_Sam : When icbit was the only game in town they had overnight 1% holding fees.
[2016-11-14 21:19:30] BitMEX_Sam : People were trading 10x and paying 10% overnight to the exchange... and happily did so to get leverage during the 2013 runup
[2016-11-14 21:19:43] sleger : what ?
[2016-11-14 21:19:49] sleger : i never paid any holding fee
[2016-11-14 21:19:58] daimenw : yeah u must have
[2016-11-14 21:20:01] sleger : nope
[2016-11-14 21:20:18] sleger : i also cant recall any such fee
[2016-11-14 21:20:34] BitMEX_Sam : Ah my bad, doing too many things at once, I'm referring to btc.sx
[2016-11-14 21:20:37] rapidtrades : futures shouldn't have overnight fees
[2016-11-14 21:20:57] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: yes i remember them
[2016-11-14 21:20:58] BitMEX_Sam : They weren't futs, was just margin trading executed by proxy on other exchanges
[2016-11-14 21:20:58] sleger : "daimenw: yeah u must have" <- dummy
[2016-11-14 21:21:03] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: they also had a massive spread on their quotes, if i recall
[2016-11-14 21:21:22] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. Founder lost a lot of $ on Gox unfortunately
[2016-11-14 21:21:24] sleger : that was a total scam, i never opened an account there
[2016-11-14 21:21:34] sleger : icbit did have ADL though @rapidtrades
[2016-11-14 21:21:48] sleger : but the leverage was very low
[2016-11-14 21:21:57] sleger : i cant recall it happen against me
[2016-11-14 21:22:12] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah neither, I didn't know they had ADL
[2016-11-14 21:22:15] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: honest guys, paid up even thought mtgox went belly up
[2016-11-14 21:22:31] rapidtrades : i traded that crash with them
[2016-11-14 21:23:00] sleger : rapidtrades: i never put too much money there, they seemed honest but they did hide their identities
[2016-11-14 21:23:06] sleger : big red flag
[2016-11-14 21:23:37] rapidtrades : they are rebranded now
[2016-11-14 21:23:46] sleger : rapidtrades: they are closed
[2016-11-14 21:23:53] rapidtrades : no
[2016-11-14 21:24:08] sleger : icbit -> orderbook.net -> ???
[2016-11-14 21:24:21] rapidtrades : no i meant btc.sx
[2016-11-14 21:24:45] rapidtrades : if u go it will redirect u to new site
[2016-11-14 21:49:16] jung1 : that fuckers in chin keep pumping
[2016-11-14 22:02:39] JamesPolo : back to 700?
[2016-11-14 22:04:07] rasdasd : JamesPolo: short squeeze
[2016-11-14 22:04:38] JamesPolo : Few bucks
[2016-11-14 22:11:05] rasdasd : longs gonna get rekt
[2016-11-14 22:11:37] Boontjie : rasdasd: lies
[2016-11-14 22:17:45] dasdfasdf : Boontjie: lies
[2016-11-14 22:25:52] JamesPolo : rasdasd: truth
[2016-11-14 22:25:53] javierstone : chinese volume is getting high
[2016-11-14 22:40:53] daimenw : long
[2016-11-14 22:52:58] rasdasd : told a to short
[2016-11-14 22:53:00] rasdasd : ya
[2016-11-14 22:57:28] Bacon futures trader : lol, we are 2$ of the high
[2016-11-14 22:57:55] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-14 22:57:59] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-14 22:59:59] Bacon futures trader : That weekly chart on bitstamp sweet lord
[2016-11-14 23:14:41] jung1 : Yeah
[2016-11-14 23:14:59] jung1 : This chirstmas will be awesome
[2016-11-15 00:08:11] rapidtrades : AWESOME
[2016-11-15 00:21:03] Tetsuo : Santa bullwhale might be busy this christmas. Could become a bloody christmas : - (
[2016-11-15 00:24:05] Apocalyptic : It's always bloody for one side
[2016-11-15 00:24:14] rapidtrades : ZEC in your stokicngs!
[2016-11-15 00:24:19] Apocalyptic : gotta make sure you're on the right one
[2016-11-15 00:36:52] jung1 : Apocalyptic: well said
[2016-11-15 00:37:07] laisee : surely there is a TURKY coin ready for pump & dump this Xmas period
[2016-11-15 00:59:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 155 @ 0.013800
[2016-11-15 01:07:57] Tetsuo : there is at least a TURD coin, and we all know it´s name
[2016-11-15 01:09:13] QuantFocus : btc?
[2016-11-15 01:18:31] martinium : china just devalued again
[2016-11-15 01:20:41] jung1 : Good guy china
[2016-11-15 01:21:25] hhhhh : martinium: what?
[2016-11-15 01:25:29] BitMEX_Jack : i love china LOL
[2016-11-15 01:26:42] hhhhh : BitMEX_Jack: did something jsut come out?
[2016-11-15 01:28:38] BitMEX_Jack : If China keep devalued, bitcoin is expected to increase
[2016-11-15 02:03:10] jung1 : Looks good
[2016-11-15 02:06:51] sleger : BitMEX_Jack: so does the usd
[2016-11-15 02:30:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7900 @ 708.92
[2016-11-15 02:30:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 58 @ 708.91
[2016-11-15 02:42:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5555 @ 711.74
[2016-11-15 02:45:24] Dtrade16 : Btc?
[2016-11-15 02:47:45] habibi : Dtrade16: bitcoin - a type of digital currency in which encryption techniques are used to regulate the generation of units of currency and verify the transfer of funds, operating independently of a central bank.
[2016-11-15 02:48:06] Rado : BitMEX_Jack new?
[2016-11-15 02:48:14] Dtrade16 : habibi: ok smart ass
[2016-11-15 02:48:32] Rado : lol habibi
[2016-11-15 02:48:45] sleger : Zec ?
[2016-11-15 02:49:08] habibi : Dtrade16: what u wanted to hear?
[2016-11-15 02:49:09] zanza : whats up with ETH ?
[2016-11-15 02:49:47] Rado : ETH is fucked
[2016-11-15 02:49:56] zanza : looks very bearish
[2016-11-15 02:53:11] rapidtrades : dam ETH
[2016-11-15 02:53:25] rapidtrades : sleger: better cut ur losses brah
[2016-11-15 02:53:42] sleger : for my 1y position ?
[2016-11-15 02:53:49] sleger : after 1 month ?
[2016-11-15 02:54:02] rapidtrades : my ZEC is 1y position too
[2016-11-15 02:54:15] rapidtrades : ZCASH SHALL RISE AGAIN
[2016-11-15 02:54:15] sleger : long @ 3 for 1 year
[2016-11-15 02:54:27] rapidtrades : will be back at 10
[2016-11-15 02:55:37] rapidtrades : so China f*cked up everyone's sleeping schedule?
[2016-11-15 02:58:10] j8 : hey the limit up is 100 btc/zec now, you should make that your target
[2016-11-15 02:59:24] rapidtrades : good point j8
[2016-11-15 02:59:48] j8 : dream big
[2016-11-15 03:00:19] rapidtrades : As my mentor Donald Trump showed, you just gotta throw your hat in the ring to win
[2016-11-15 03:00:42] mjones : Zec almost new low
[2016-11-15 03:01:06] mjones : Keep averaging down next 1.5 months
[2016-11-15 03:01:11] rapidtrades : jones don't be a Debbie Downer
[2016-11-15 03:01:45] mjones : I once ate at zecs restaurant
[2016-11-15 03:02:00] mjones : Maybe it was zeks
[2016-11-15 03:03:11] rapidtrades : the PBOC didn't quite follow the offshore market higher
[2016-11-15 03:03:36] rapidtrades : new highs this morning at 6.8668
[2016-11-15 03:03:56] rapidtrades : 6.8688 so close to 6.87 now
[2016-11-15 03:04:17] rapidtrades : prolly gonna hit 7 in the future
[2016-11-15 03:12:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: Sell 410 @ 0.005450
[2016-11-15 04:15:35] Rado : rapidtrades: Arthur said when CNY is 7, BTC will be 1000
[2016-11-15 04:47:03] Rado : back to 550 users
[2016-11-15 04:47:39] arbitrage001 : only seen a few users chat here
[2016-11-15 04:47:43] Apocalyptic : I hope some of them buy some ZEC
[2016-11-15 05:10:45] billyboy402 : is there a USD/JPY api i am guessing they get the BTC/JPY rate via using the USD index > JPY
[2016-11-15 05:19:44] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: have a look at the contract spec for XBJ24H, it references the XBTJPY rate from Quoine
[2016-11-15 05:20:30] billyboy402 : oh ur using the quoine price , i thouhg you just google fx the index rate
[2016-11-15 05:31:00] jung1 : Morning
[2016-11-15 05:37:34] jung1 : *good morning ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-11-15 07:18:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 70 @ 0.010683
[2016-11-15 07:20:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.010539
[2016-11-15 07:42:08] elmorte : Hi guys, can someone tell me how to buy btc?
[2016-11-15 08:04:33] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5cx6vr/bitcoin_futures_coming_soon/
[2016-11-15 08:05:43] zanza : elmorte: send an email to sleger he will meet you in Japan
[2016-11-15 08:08:39] rapidtrades : Rado: it won't. that's just wishful thinking
[2016-11-15 08:13:45] daimenw : 150% profit overnight lol
[2016-11-15 08:14:19] elmorte : zanza: thanks...email bounced :(
[2016-11-15 08:14:26] elmorte : Error 441: The recipient's server is not responding.
[2016-11-15 08:14:35] elmorte : Sleger's butler must be busy
[2016-11-15 08:14:41] zanza : There might be a tsunami there
[2016-11-15 08:14:46] daimenw : lol
[2016-11-15 08:14:54] daimenw : are you guys online all day on bitmex
[2016-11-15 08:15:07] zanza : i have my browser open 24/7 usually
[2016-11-15 08:15:19] zanza : #justtraderthings
[2016-11-15 08:15:23] daimenw : so i guess this is a full time thing for you? workwise
[2016-11-15 08:15:24] zanza : #traderlife
[2016-11-15 08:15:33] elmorte : #noaddict
[2016-11-15 08:15:42] zanza : haha nah i just watch for now
[2016-11-15 08:15:51] daimenw : ah okay
[2016-11-15 08:15:56] zanza : watch the casino and people imagine lines into charts
[2016-11-15 08:16:05] daimenw : lol
[2016-11-15 08:16:27] elmorte : it's hard to sleep on all this blow
[2016-11-15 08:17:35] wurstgelee : its not
[2016-11-15 08:17:45] wurstgelee : u need more weed
[2016-11-15 08:17:46] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 08:17:47] elmorte : daimenw: I stopped trading for a few months and my quality of life improved 4.18%
[2016-11-15 08:18:10] daimenw : elmorte: hahaha
[2016-11-15 08:18:45] daimenw : whos ready for a pump :D
[2016-11-15 08:24:51] daimenw : buy buy :D
[2016-11-15 08:29:30] zcashequalslambo : zec buy?
[2016-11-15 08:29:31] zcashequalslambo : or mnr
[2016-11-15 08:29:34] zcashequalslambo : or both hehe
[2016-11-15 08:33:16] wurstgelee : i am a little bit impressed by ZEC's current performance tbh
[2016-11-15 08:49:05] daimenw : Going long btc
[2016-11-15 08:54:25] daimenw : this looks nice
[2016-11-15 08:55:42] daimenw : low volume is very frustrating
[2016-11-15 09:24:43] jonny : elmorte: wow really?
[2016-11-15 09:25:05] jonny : i just sold a zec
[2016-11-15 09:27:21] jonny : here is a prediction about zec: price of both spot&future will not fall below $10 in 2016
[2016-11-15 09:27:39] jonny : how many percent true?
[2016-11-15 09:28:52] arbitrage001 : elmorte: are you still buying btc?
[2016-11-15 09:30:29] wurstgelee : .162 again
[2016-11-15 09:30:32] wurstgelee : impressive ;)
[2016-11-15 10:23:50] DareDevil : ETH will pump today I think
[2016-11-15 10:29:07] DareDevil : if it does, some shorts taken last night will get REKT
[2016-11-15 10:33:03] iefken : why you think it will pump?
[2016-11-15 10:39:28] DareDevil : Looking at the market buys/sells and changes in order book last two hours
[2016-11-15 10:39:45] DareDevil : someone is manipulation it upwards but not too fast, and still is buying a bit in between
[2016-11-15 10:39:56] DareDevil : a whale wouldn't do that to sell it back lower
[2016-11-15 10:40:26] DareDevil : and a small wall is moving upwards last 45 - 60 mins
[2016-11-15 11:14:42] wurstgelee : so.....what if ZEC already bottomed (for the next weeks to come)? :p
[2016-11-15 11:17:55] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: has the mining reward increase to peak?
[2016-11-15 11:18:40] wurstgelee : ofc not. that value only matters in correlation with nethash/amount of miners tho
[2016-11-15 11:19:32] arbitrage001 : price will probably still drop when the profit is still high for miners
[2016-11-15 11:20:14] wurstgelee : hard to tell imo
[2016-11-15 11:20:27] wurstgelee : nethash has been going up since launch, even now with dropping price
[2016-11-15 11:20:34] wurstgelee : but miner software gets improved a lot...
[2016-11-15 11:21:01] wurstgelee : it sure is a loval bottom for now
[2016-11-15 11:21:05] wurstgelee : *local
[2016-11-15 11:22:27] iefken : the amount of zcoins will be almost 10times at the 30 dec (36k now, 300k+ then) you tell me what will happen
[2016-11-15 11:22:41] arbitrage001 : if hash rate keep going up, that usually mean profit is still high
[2016-11-15 11:23:11] iefken : well it's still more profitable than mining eth i heard so
[2016-11-15 11:23:19] iefken : but not a miner myself so i cant confirm
[2016-11-15 11:24:30] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: usually yes. but this case is different...because of miner improvements
[2016-11-15 11:24:42] wurstgelee : iefken: its not, according to coinwarz
[2016-11-15 11:25:13] wurstgelee : iefken: http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency
[2016-11-15 11:25:45] wurstgelee : rank #41 with default settings, was still top 4 a few days ago
[2016-11-15 11:26:16] wurstgelee : i dont know if this is accurate but mining profits are at least down a lot
[2016-11-15 11:27:44] wurstgelee : that would explain the recent 24-48 h
[2016-11-15 11:30:29] iefken : wurstgelee: yea they have changed since last time i checked coinwarz :p
[2016-11-15 11:31:36] iefken : well, anyway, the only way is down im afraid... especially with the new zchain withouth the 20 percent for the devs...
[2016-11-15 11:33:48] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: profit usually has to go to negative for a while before price starting to pick up
[2016-11-15 11:34:08] arbitrage001 : using bitcoin as reference
[2016-11-15 11:36:04] arbitrage001 : iefken: no one can predict where price will go using simple matrix
[2016-11-15 11:36:46] arbitrage001 : anyone who can predict price with high accuracy won't hang around here
[2016-11-15 11:41:30] iefken : sure, and of course it's a game of odds, but regarding zcash i'm pretty sure my guess is accurate
[2016-11-15 11:42:03] iefken : but well, it remains a guess of course, with all the possible outcomes :p
[2016-11-15 11:45:08] wurstgelee : zcl is no threat for zec
[2016-11-15 12:02:50] elmorte : arbitrage001: sup! Why, you selling?
[2016-11-15 12:03:38] elmorte : jonny: yup...you sound surprised
[2016-11-15 12:05:28] arbitrage001 : elmorte: are you in kl?
[2016-11-15 12:05:49] elmorte : Yeah dawg, you asked me before
[2016-11-15 12:05:56] arbitrage001 : have maybank?
[2016-11-15 12:06:01] arbitrage001 : how many btc you want?
[2016-11-15 12:07:15] elmorte : I was kinda joking, but what's your offer? Still on 0001 email?
[2016-11-15 12:07:33] arbitrage001 : bitfinex market price
[2016-11-15 12:07:53] arbitrage001 : yes, same email
[2016-11-15 12:09:21] arbitrage001 : if you are interested, let me know soon. Withdrawal window here close in 50 mins
[2016-11-15 12:09:24] elmorte : Same as lbtc price then...it's cool, thanks though
[2016-11-15 12:09:31] arbitrage001 : ok
[2016-11-15 12:11:19] elmorte : Are you on any of the Msian chat groups? They worth following?
[2016-11-15 12:13:27] arbitrage001 : elmorte: one of the group
[2016-11-15 12:13:39] arbitrage001 : created by mark pui and tsang
[2016-11-15 12:13:50] arbitrage001 : mostly politic and economic news
[2016-11-15 12:14:15] arbitrage001 : whining against malaysian government like everyone on the street
[2016-11-15 12:14:26] elmorte : Not crypto?
[2016-11-15 12:14:32] elmorte : Haha, standard
[2016-11-15 12:14:33] arbitrage001 : also crypto
[2016-11-15 12:15:08] arbitrage001 : which group are you in?
[2016-11-15 12:15:12] arbitrage001 : colbert one?
[2016-11-15 12:15:39] elmorte : Not anymore, got kicked coz I didn't feel like doing their kycaml b.s.
[2016-11-15 12:16:05] arbitrage001 : need kyc to join chat group?
[2016-11-15 12:16:12] elmorte : Kicked out*
[2016-11-15 12:16:21] elmorte : Yeah, like within a certain period
[2016-11-15 12:16:35] arbitrage001 : guess they invited too many scammers
[2016-11-15 12:16:36] elmorte : And I was traveling...so screw it
[2016-11-15 12:16:44] elmorte : Yup, that's their excuse
[2016-11-15 12:16:54] arbitrage001 : see
[2016-11-15 12:17:13] arbitrage001 : shady characters invite even more shady people
[2016-11-15 12:17:27] arbitrage001 : beside
[2016-11-15 12:17:35] arbitrage001 : most of the btc buyers i deal with
[2016-11-15 12:17:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2 @ 726.07 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-15 12:17:49] arbitrage001 : they buy btc from me to join ponzi scheme
[2016-11-15 12:18:49] arbitrage001 : bitclub, bitkindom and etc
[2016-11-15 12:20:36] elmorte : Sad la, mostly old retired ppl too
[2016-11-15 12:21:19] arbitrage001 : elmorte: yes. heard many stories of retired successful business man get conned
[2016-11-15 12:21:30] arbitrage001 : hard to imagine
[2016-11-15 12:21:47] arbitrage001 : normally, one needs to be clever to be succesful in business
[2016-11-15 12:22:02] arbitrage001 : meaning not easily get conned
[2016-11-15 12:27:44] wurstgelee : .165 new high soon ;)
[2016-11-15 12:31:51] iefken : the 24h graph on polo is funny yes :p
[2016-11-15 12:35:28] elmorte : arbitrage001: "normally, one needs to be clever to be succesful in business" Good point...
[2016-11-15 12:35:55] elmorte : So you ask your buyers why they are buying?
[2016-11-15 12:41:29] arbitrage001 : elmorte: nope
[2016-11-15 12:41:59] elmorte : yeah, I don't remember anyone ever asking me either
[2016-11-15 12:42:03] arbitrage001 : elmorte: but i will tell them i am not responsible for the coin once i sent it to them
[2016-11-15 12:47:33] elmorte : :)
[2016-11-15 12:47:42] elmorte : You play around with any alts?
[2016-11-15 12:47:54] arbitrage001 : elmorte: zcash, losing a lot of money
[2016-11-15 12:48:11] elmorte : haha...tell me about it...what a fckin idiot I was
[2016-11-15 12:48:21] arbitrage001 : but those money were profit from the beginning
[2016-11-15 12:48:27] elmorte : yeah, same :)
[2016-11-15 12:48:36] elmorte : I bought here for 2.5, sold for 9...
[2016-11-15 12:48:37] arbitrage001 : 13 btc ..
[2016-11-15 12:48:51] arbitrage001 : a year worth of salary for normal person here
[2016-11-15 12:48:57] elmorte : then I promptly lost 90% of it on Polo
[2016-11-15 12:49:11] arbitrage001 : elmorte: nice profit
[2016-11-15 12:49:19] elmorte : yeah, but I got greedy
[2016-11-15 12:49:25] arbitrage001 : same lah
[2016-11-15 12:49:30] arbitrage001 : but was good bet
[2016-11-15 12:49:34] elmorte : didn't do my homework :(
[2016-11-15 12:49:36] arbitrage001 : since the discount here were good
[2016-11-15 12:49:46] arbitrage001 : like 70% discount for 2 months
[2016-11-15 12:50:10] arbitrage001 : hard to not make a bet when discount is this deep
[2016-11-15 12:50:36] elmorte : Guess sleger was right all along...
[2016-11-15 12:50:42] elmorte : Did he make it thru without liqdn though?
[2016-11-15 12:50:55] arbitrage001 : he was short?
[2016-11-15 12:51:00] wurstgelee : iirc not
[2016-11-15 12:51:02] elmorte : yeah, from what I remeber
[2016-11-15 12:51:04] arbitrage001 : at what price?
[2016-11-15 12:51:16] wurstgelee : he was short once but got fucked like everyone else on day 1 iirc
[2016-11-15 12:51:17] elmorte : wurstgelee: wasn't short or got liqd?
[2016-11-15 12:51:34] wurstgelee : not 100% sure tho
[2016-11-15 12:52:01] elmorte : yeah, how the fck would you defend 2k BTC mark...
[2016-11-15 12:52:13] elmorte : then again, if anyone had that kinda backing...
[2016-11-15 12:52:30] wurstgelee : shorts got lucky here....
[2016-11-15 12:52:40] wurstgelee : 10 btc wall saved a lot of asses i guess
[2016-11-15 12:52:50] elmorte : shit yeah
[2016-11-15 12:53:19] arbitrage001 : not a good thing to interfere market operation
[2016-11-15 12:53:24] wurstgelee : not at all
[2016-11-15 12:53:47] wurstgelee : id cost me some money
[2016-11-15 12:53:53] wurstgelee : and also a fuckload of potential profits
[2016-11-15 12:54:00] arbitrage001 : hah
[2016-11-15 12:54:18] arbitrage001 : doubt many shorters can survive past 10 btc mark
[2016-11-15 12:54:28] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 12:54:52] wurstgelee : some guys got mc*ed on cross....
[2016-11-15 12:55:00] wurstgelee : sub 1 to 8.7something when ADl hit me
[2016-11-15 12:55:05] wurstgelee : this can only be cross
[2016-11-15 12:55:31] arbitrage001 : have to be experience traders with deep pocket
[2016-11-15 12:55:49] wurstgelee : i would use cross. ever. not on a launch day
[2016-11-15 12:55:53] arbitrage001 : may be whole year of profit gone in 1 trade
[2016-11-15 12:55:56] wurstgelee : *wouldn't
[2016-11-15 12:56:13] habibi : wurstgelee: ur adl counter party doesnt have to be on same entrys as u, he could be simple way higher on and still on fixed
[2016-11-15 12:56:45] wurstgelee : habibi: not? i thought so
[2016-11-15 12:56:49] habibi : but yea i agree a lot of accounts got wiped that day
[2016-11-15 12:57:09] wurstgelee : i didnt think that earlier bh but someone told me it is that way
[2016-11-15 12:57:27] habibi : i don't think so, all matters is ur ranking in adl quene
[2016-11-15 12:57:38] wurstgelee : makes a lot more sense anyways
[2016-11-15 12:57:43] wurstgelee : the ranking stuff
[2016-11-15 12:57:53] elmorte : there was a lot of "fckin adl" that night
[2016-11-15 12:57:57] elmorte : it was 2-3am here
[2016-11-15 12:58:19] wurstgelee : night&day were one on that day tbh
[2016-11-15 12:58:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-15 12:58:41] elmorte : I logged on by pure accident...
[2016-11-15 12:58:59] elmorte : saw $2 here and like 1000+ on Polo...
[2016-11-15 12:59:08] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-15 12:59:11] arbitrage001 : do you foresee another fomo on zcash soon?
[2016-11-15 12:59:18] elmorte : hell no
[2016-11-15 12:59:24] elmorte : it's damaged goods
[2016-11-15 12:59:26] arbitrage001 : same trick rarely happen twice
[2016-11-15 12:59:48] wurstgelee : it will pump. hard. really hard. the only question is "from where".
[2016-11-15 12:59:55] arbitrage001 : but the open interest here suggest otherwise
[2016-11-15 12:59:57] wurstgelee : not 3000 btc hard ofc
[2016-11-15 13:00:08] arbitrage001 : traders insist on shorting
[2016-11-15 13:00:15] elmorte : haha...I'm still holding from 800 btc...so fingers and toes crossed
[2016-11-15 13:00:31] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: most trader's dont win ;)
[2016-11-15 13:00:32] elmorte : falling knife.....fckin falling axe that was
[2016-11-15 13:00:34] wurstgelee : few do
[2016-11-15 13:00:42] wurstgelee : *-'
[2016-11-15 13:00:44] arbitrage001 : at a price favorable to long lol
[2016-11-15 13:00:48] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-15 13:01:52] elmorte : when the hell did they have time to fork?
[2016-11-15 13:02:20] elmorte : was there drama?
[2016-11-15 13:02:59] wurstgelee : fork?
[2016-11-15 13:03:15] elmorte : zcash....I saw you guys mentioning zclassic earlier
[2016-11-15 13:05:22] iefken : november 6
[2016-11-15 13:05:35] iefken : http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/zclassic
[2016-11-15 13:07:06] elmorte : iefken: thanks bud...I wanted your guys' perspective though
[2016-11-15 13:08:09] iefken : well, the zclassic is like the same as zcash but without the 20% fee for miners that goes to the devs
[2016-11-15 13:13:12] elmorte : cheers
[2016-11-15 13:15:42] wurstgelee : its not a fork, it's a clone
[2016-11-15 13:16:09] elmorte : yeah, you're right
[2016-11-15 13:16:38] elmorte : was just reminiscent of another coin earlier this year...name escapes me right now...
[2016-11-15 13:17:11] elmorte : so I figured it was a fork
[2016-11-15 13:22:29] Boontjie : eth
[2016-11-15 13:37:01] elmorte : Boontjie: :)
[2016-11-15 13:58:54] CrazyAlfy : The Funding Rate on XBTUSD is applied to positions every 8 hours right?
[2016-11-15 13:59:17] BitMEX_Wally : CrazyAlfy: Correct
[2016-11-15 14:00:02] CrazyAlfy : On my account I can only see PL adjustments relating to funding every 24H at 14:00?
[2016-11-15 14:00:46] DareDevil : I guess I was right about ETH
[2016-11-15 14:00:52] BitMEX_Wally : In the trade history there is a Funding entry every 8 hours: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-15 14:01:22] BitMEX_Wally : Then every 24 hours there is a wallet entry for the last 24 hours of PNL including funding
[2016-11-15 14:01:54] CrazyAlfy : Ah, thanks. I didn't see this page before.
[2016-11-15 14:02:11] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah we should probably add a link to it from the wallet page
[2016-11-15 14:02:52] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: I'll add one.
[2016-11-15 14:07:12] jung1 : hello
[2016-11-15 14:08:23] jung1 : oh
[2016-11-15 14:08:27] jung1 : finex hit 720 at 7 am
[2016-11-15 14:12:46] rasdasd : whoo huobi is mad
[2016-11-15 14:15:39] jung1 : 40yuan dump