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[2016-11-13 18:02:58] NL007 : zcashequalslambo: yes
[2016-11-13 18:03:56] zcashequalslambo : i mean high tech industry which relies on china so much will be dead
[2016-11-13 18:04:07] zcashequalslambo : or maybe they run awau to EU
[2016-11-13 18:04:30] rapidtrades : zcashequalslambo: they don't hurt the US nearly as much
[2016-11-13 18:04:41] rapidtrades : America's GDP is only 10% exports
[2016-11-13 18:04:49] rapidtrades : China is 40-50%
[2016-11-13 18:04:49] zcashequalslambo : yeah
[2016-11-13 18:04:53] zcashequalslambo : you know
[2016-11-13 18:05:03] zcashequalslambo : US has negative import export ratio
[2016-11-13 18:05:07] zcashequalslambo : so they import a lot
[2016-11-13 18:05:13] zcashequalslambo : tarrifs on chinese products
[2016-11-13 18:05:39] zcashequalslambo : will destroy busienesses which produce and have suppliers in china
[2016-11-13 18:05:50] zcashequalslambo : which is almost everything you are using right now
[2016-11-13 18:06:06] zcashequalslambo : well
[2016-11-13 18:06:13] NL007 : Obamacare is now a huge insurance industry and many companies are making billions through Obamacare thats why Trump came back on his words
[2016-11-13 18:06:13] rapidtrades : yeah it's bad for both countries but China will siffer more no doubt
[2016-11-13 18:06:22] zcashequalslambo : i dont think so
[2016-11-13 18:06:31] zcashequalslambo : people will suffer most
[2016-11-13 18:06:42] zcashequalslambo : they will have to pay extra on every american product
[2016-11-13 18:06:57] rapidtrades : NL007: he's just an opportunist, i don't trust anything he says
[2016-11-13 18:07:10] rapidtrades : it's doubtful if he's even on the right politically
[2016-11-13 18:07:49] rapidtrades : We'll have to see what he actually does
[2016-11-13 18:09:55] NL007 : Trump looked very nervous when he heard he won as he didnt want to win
[2016-11-13 18:10:18] habibi : NL007: or he looked like a man that achieved everything he could in life
[2016-11-13 18:10:45] hazir : or let the deep state OK him to office
[2016-11-13 18:11:08] hazir : if e stops Leaking
[2016-11-13 18:11:19] hazir : he*
[2016-11-13 18:11:23] NL007 : habibi: i think he wasnt after a win. He was in it to make his trump brand more popular.
[2016-11-13 18:31:54] hazir : it made his brand lose costumers.that's a fact. Now the left wing don't want to give him money
[2016-11-13 18:36:35] gartan : does bitmex have a mobile app?
[2016-11-13 18:36:59] hazir : i don't think so, but it's kinda mobile friendly
[2016-11-13 18:37:17] hazir : just watch out not to butt trade!!!
[2016-11-13 18:37:21] hazir : : )
[2016-11-13 18:45:53] rapidtrades : his memories will be interesting to read in about 20-30 years
[2016-11-13 18:46:28] rapidtrades : 'I never expected to win, I said all those outrageous things to drop in the polls'
[2016-11-13 18:46:41] rapidtrades : 'But they kept going up! I was stuck'
[2016-11-13 18:46:46] rapidtrades : Trump 2036
[2016-11-13 19:08:42] Bacon futures trader : What's the best way to use stop loss management on bitmex?
[2016-11-13 19:09:15] jung1 : up we go?
[2016-11-13 19:09:53] habibi : Bacon futures trader: we had a lot of people here who said that liquidation is best stop loss, and they'r goneee
[2016-11-13 19:11:35] BitMEX_Wally : Liquidation is a guaranteed stop loss, but guaranteed to have slippage equal to the maintenance margin
[2016-11-13 19:12:51] Bacon futures trader : I'm asking because I had a stop market order put in place last night but somehow it didn't work.
[2016-11-13 19:13:16] Bacon futures trader : So trying to figure out what's the best way to protect positions since I must have done something wrong.
[2016-11-13 19:18:05] jung1 : monero seems like going back to 12
[2016-11-13 19:20:22] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: I see you had a stop order on XMR7D that was triggered and filled?
[2016-11-13 19:22:20] Rado : jung1: it just seems that way :)
[2016-11-13 19:22:48] jung1 : how is your bot rado?
[2016-11-13 19:23:22] Bacon futures trader : @BitMEX_Wally thanks for checking. It was on an xbt position and it didn't trigger although price moved past the execute price.
[2016-11-13 19:24:48] Rado : Pretty flat this days
[2016-11-13 19:24:49] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: Ahh, I see an Stop order to sell XBTUSD if the mark price dropped below 683.50
[2016-11-13 19:25:00] Bacon futures trader : Yes, correct.
[2016-11-13 19:25:38] Rado : LTC is next alt coin to short
[2016-11-13 19:25:54] Rado : so easy to short these coins when they pop
[2016-11-13 19:26:26] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: The mark price did not get that low
[2016-11-13 19:26:29] BitMEX_Wally : It got to 684.50
[2016-11-13 19:27:09] BitMEX_Wally : However XBTUSD got down to 679.84 so if you had Price Trigger: Last Price set then it would have been triggered
[2016-11-13 19:27:39] Rado : You should do the stop order based on last price
[2016-11-13 19:27:53] Rado : i never use mark price after the changes
[2016-11-13 19:29:26] Bacon futures trader : Ah, I didn't check the mark price history as I assumed it got below 680. @BitMEX_Wally Thanks for clarifying!
[2016-11-13 19:47:26] Rado : Back to boring for now
[2016-11-13 19:47:31] Rado : see ya all later
[2016-11-13 19:48:17] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: was there ever a discussion about adding gold futures to BitMEX?
[2016-11-13 19:50:11] habibi : Rado: noone wants it, plenty of place to trade it without big spread, next thing for bitmex is i guess golem futures
[2016-11-13 19:51:08] Rado : Plenty of places to trade it with BTC?
[2016-11-13 19:51:58] habibi : 1broker shitplefx and few others
[2016-11-13 19:52:19] Rado : They charge insane rates
[2016-11-13 19:52:39] habibi : Rado: so don't trade them :D
[2016-11-13 19:52:42] Rado : 0.2% per day
[2016-11-13 19:53:10] Rado : That's why BitMEX will kill their business if they wanted to
[2016-11-13 19:54:25] habibi : Rado: market is nothing without proper market maker
[2016-11-13 19:56:06] Rado : ZEC pump lasted 2 min
[2016-11-13 20:08:09] chikator : hi how does zec futures work?
[2016-11-13 20:08:29] wurstgelee : chikator: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-11-13 20:09:44] chikator : if i go short when the price was 50 xbt per zec16 and now its 0.07 xbt, i would get the same profit that i get in regular exchange or how?
[2016-11-13 20:10:18] chikator : i read this manual about , but i cant understand
[2016-11-13 20:10:37] wurstgelee : https://testnet.bitmex.com
[2016-11-13 20:10:42] wurstgelee : try for free unbtil you do
[2016-11-13 20:10:57] chikator : lets try)
[2016-11-13 20:11:19] chikator : anyway cant understand those futures
[2016-11-13 20:11:42] wurstgelee : you shouldnt trade them then
[2016-11-13 20:14:35] chikator : but i want to understand
[2016-11-13 20:15:20] chikator : why on test i cant put order
[2016-11-13 20:15:49] chikator : first i see that order placed, then red notification that insuficent funds
[2016-11-13 20:16:35] chikator : any help
[2016-11-13 20:16:38] chikator : ?
[2016-11-13 20:17:59] chikator : ok i chat there
[2016-11-13 20:19:32] rapidtrades : get some test bitcoins
[2016-11-13 20:20:57] chikator : if i would placed 1 sell contract of zec16dec at 50xbt and now its value is 0.07 xbt how much profits i would get??????
[2016-11-13 20:21:07] chikator : just answer please
[2016-11-13 20:21:41] rapidtrades : 0 cos u will get smoked
[2016-11-13 20:21:48] chikator : ok for simple count 1 xbt
[2016-11-13 20:21:58] chikator : but why ???
[2016-11-13 20:22:07] chikator : explain this mehanics
[2016-11-13 20:22:14] chikator : please
[2016-11-13 20:22:54] rapidtrades : operation 'Sleeping Giant' will commence soon
[2016-11-13 20:23:09] rapidtrades : trust me, u don't want to short
[2016-11-13 20:23:28] wurstgelee : i rarely do but i agree with rapidtrades here
[2016-11-13 20:23:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-13 20:24:03] wurstgelee : u can still do it ofc if u insist...
[2016-11-13 20:24:29] chikator : but its working like on regular exchnge or how if i short from 50 xbt to 1 xbt for example i expect to see x50 profit or i am wrong?
[2016-11-13 20:25:10] rapidtrades : price here never went above 10, they capped it
[2016-11-13 20:26:37] rapidtrades : chikator: if u short 1 contract, the max u can get is 0.068 if it goes to 0
[2016-11-13 20:26:52] rapidtrades : that's 0.068 btc
[2016-11-13 20:30:48] chikator : ok, example : i short from 10 xbt on expire date price is 0.1, i would get x10 profits?
[2016-11-13 20:31:33] rapidtrades : no u would get 9.9 btc per contract
[2016-11-13 20:31:37] chikator : but why price here different? on polo 0.18
[2016-11-13 20:31:41] rapidtrades : i dunno what 10x means
[2016-11-13 20:31:53] wurstgelee : leverage i guess
[2016-11-13 20:32:00] rapidtrades : chikator: becos ppl here are retarded and made a lot of money with the cap
[2016-11-13 20:32:19] rapidtrades : ppl will keep doing what makes them money no matter how dumb
[2016-11-13 20:33:11] chikator : 10x means multiplies by ten
[2016-11-13 20:33:16] chikator : profits
[2016-11-13 20:33:46] wurstgelee : leverage doesnt influence UPNL
[2016-11-13 20:33:55] wurstgelee : amount of contracts does
[2016-11-13 20:34:50] rapidtrades : dunno how he plans to use leverage when every ZEC rally was close to 100%
[2016-11-13 20:36:50] chikator : but ican sell contract earlier, or i need to wait expiry
[2016-11-13 20:37:05] chikator : till it expire
[2016-11-13 20:38:19] rapidtrades : last one nov8, 0.25>0.55
[2016-11-13 20:38:34] rapidtrades : 0.58
[2016-11-13 20:39:18] rapidtrades : chikator: u can sell it earlier
[2016-11-13 20:39:29] rapidtrades : or buy it if ur short
[2016-11-13 20:41:57] chikator : any way now its too late for some moves, i just remember when it was 10-12 xbt per contract, i wanted to short, but i didnt have funds to buy 1 contract( last stop was 1 btc for short
[2016-11-13 20:42:22] rapidtrades : it was never above 10 m8
[2016-11-13 20:42:47] rapidtrades : they capped it, now cap is moved to 100
[2016-11-13 20:44:40] chikator : aaa i think i get it you couldnt buy more than on 10xbt, know its 100 xbt? right?
[2016-11-13 20:44:56] chikator : now
[2016-11-13 21:04:30] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Osc7tB12/
[2016-11-13 21:05:13] aethlios : consolidation until 25 dec. possible, then an 100% move possible
[2016-11-13 21:07:47] NL007 : 10 was cap
[2016-11-13 21:19:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2493 @ 702.02
[2016-11-13 21:20:34] TheDrunkenGambler : Is LISK still available to trade on Bitmex?
[2016-11-13 21:31:28] aethlios : TheDrunkenGambler: no avail.
[2016-11-13 22:24:34] Rado : aethlios: 100%?
[2016-11-13 22:24:39] Rado : as in $1400
[2016-11-13 22:24:50] miramm1115 : oh wow, I got fills in $680 area, didn't know bitcoin dropped that much here
[2016-11-13 22:54:25] jung1 : you guys are long on btc now?
[2016-11-13 22:55:35] iefken : i am
[2016-11-13 23:09:59] anonymous789 : i'm still short, daily looks like there needs to be further retracement, to around 660-670 area i reckon
[2016-11-13 23:10:53] anonymous789 : if 704-706 area is rejected, that will make a lower high which means more downside
[2016-11-13 23:11:18] anonymous789 : on the hourly that is
[2016-11-13 23:26:43] jung1 : dump on monero
[2016-11-13 23:50:27] rapidtrades : guys u know u can talk even though nothing is moving
[2016-11-13 23:50:31] rapidtrades : it's allowed
[2016-11-13 23:50:52] kradiav : sssh, you'll scare ZEC and it might die for good :P
[2016-11-13 23:52:41] jung1 : yeah its funny here
[2016-11-13 23:53:03] jung1 : if there is more users, less people talk on trollbox
[2016-11-13 23:54:14] rapidtrades : jung1: any shitcoins ur invested in right now?
[2016-11-13 23:55:11] jung1 : iconomy, vdice and golem
[2016-11-13 23:55:31] rapidtrades : golem...nice
[2016-11-13 23:55:45] rapidtrades : u should pick up some cheap ZEC
[2016-11-13 23:55:48] jung1 : poland strong
[2016-11-13 23:56:09] jung1 : yeah Im thinking of it
[2016-11-13 23:56:22] jung1 : have some buy orders at 0.05
[2016-11-13 23:56:57] rapidtrades : cmon that's greedy
[2016-11-13 23:57:06] rapidtrades : market buy some...fomo
[2016-11-13 23:57:56] jung1 : but possible
[2016-11-13 23:58:22] rapidtrades : dam i should apples more often, they freshen u up
[2016-11-13 23:59:03] rapidtrades : jung1: so what's the best of those 3 coins? and why?
[2016-11-13 23:59:42] jung1 : iconomy is kind of hedge fund that will payout dividents
[2016-11-13 23:59:54] rapidtrades : dam can i open one?
[2016-11-14 00:00:29] rapidtrades : any website? googling that shit is not giving me funds
[2016-11-14 00:00:33] jung1 : vdice are shares of vdice ethereum casino
[2016-11-14 00:00:49] jung1 : and golem is kind of uber for computing power
[2016-11-14 00:01:03] rapidtrades : nah i like the fund, tell me more
[2016-11-14 00:01:26] jung1 : https://www.iconomi.net/
[2016-11-14 00:02:55] jung1 : IM working on kind of hedge fund also with trading bot and investing in some ico projects
[2016-11-14 00:03:40] rapidtrades : so this is like a platform for hedge funds?
[2016-11-14 00:04:22] rapidtrades : cos website only says buy ether
[2016-11-14 00:04:40] rapidtrades : LOOKS LIKE A SPAMSITE FOR SPAMCOIN
[2016-11-14 00:07:41] jung1 : it is kind of hedge fund
[2016-11-14 00:08:32] rapidtrades : explain
[2016-11-14 00:09:34] jung1 : https://www.kraken.com/charts you can buy it on kraken
[2016-11-14 00:09:47] jung1 : and you will be shareholder of this platform
[2016-11-14 00:09:54] rapidtrades : not gonna buy what i don't understand
[2016-11-14 00:10:55] jung1 : https://ico.iconomi.net/faq
[2016-11-14 00:11:18] jung1 : ICONOMI INVESTMENT FUNDS will be crypto investment funds developed and managed by the ICONOMI team of experts. Starting with one of each fundamental type, ICONOMI will offer the ICONOMI.INDEX and ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE investment funds (for details please see the Whitepaper on App Token Funds). After the ICONOMI OPEN FUND MANAGEMENT (OFM) PLATFORM has been developed, ICONOMI investment funds will be migrated to the OFM platform, where they will coexist with investment funds of other investment managers.
[2016-11-14 00:13:17] rapidtrades : ok cool
[2016-11-14 00:13:18] habibi : jung1: stop shilling shit
[2016-11-14 00:13:30] jung1 : nope
[2016-11-14 00:13:32] rapidtrades : habibi: i asked him u retard
[2016-11-14 00:13:53] habibi : rapidtrades: in general asshole
[2016-11-14 00:14:13] jung1 : habibi: cant help you with this
[2016-11-14 00:14:15] rapidtrades : habibi: I generaled ur mum last night and she LOVED it
[2016-11-14 00:14:36] habibi : rapidtrades: how nice of u
[2016-11-14 00:15:13] rapidtrades : hey 50 bucks is 50 bucks amirite?
[2016-11-14 00:16:36] laisee : surge pricing in action
[2016-11-14 00:20:22] rapidtrades : hey 0.4321 ZEC is 0.4321 ZEC
[2016-11-14 00:20:45] jung1 : Im gonna put some stop loss and leave my long
[2016-11-14 00:21:15] jung1 : on btc
[2016-11-14 00:21:45] rapidtrades : good idea
[2016-11-14 00:24:29] Dtrade16 : Guys do you recommend renting any arbitrage bots?
[2016-11-14 00:24:41] rapidtrades : no
[2016-11-14 00:24:45] Dtrade16 : y
[2016-11-14 00:26:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 240 @ 0.010378
[2016-11-14 00:26:33] rapidtrades : Dtrade16: gains are likely risk premium due to default risk
[2016-11-14 00:32:47] laisee : every single exchange has default risk, some more than others ...
[2016-11-14 00:34:11] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: What?
[2016-11-14 00:34:26] Dtrade16 : Why
[2016-11-14 01:09:53] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/bitfinex-shuts-down-customer-bitcoin-stolen/
[2016-11-14 01:15:47] Apocalyptic : lol rapid probing chatbox bots
[2016-11-14 01:16:31] micmix : rapidtrades: http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/bitmex-bitcoin-trading-platform-sale/
[2016-11-14 01:16:44] habibi : rapidtrades: quite interesing, is that comfirmed? i would sue them if i would had any funds there
[2016-11-14 01:29:11] micmix : sorry, wrong link
[2016-11-14 01:38:28] viptrader : hello guys
[2016-11-14 01:38:38] viptrader : how to set fixed price here or cross
[2016-11-14 01:50:34] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: not that 16y idiot was asking why not do arbitrage
[2016-11-14 02:03:52] rapidtrades : €28,003,178 / €73,367,572 with 17 days to go
[2016-11-14 02:04:02] rapidtrades : they're never gonna make it
[2016-11-14 02:04:51] rapidtrades : and 20 mil of that was added as a lump sum, likely from the founders or they just made it up
[2016-11-14 02:13:03] Apocalyptic : rapid: what are these figures ?
[2016-11-14 02:13:55] rapidtrades : from bitfinex crowdfunding
[2016-11-14 02:49:00] rapidtrades : why when u pick 'index' as stop price, it shows 'mark price' when u hover over the order under stops tab?
[2016-11-14 02:51:02] rapidtrades : no bitmex staff today?
[2016-11-14 02:54:50] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: i'm not 16 u bum
[2016-11-14 03:05:25] UncleWruncle : c'mon btc move a little will ya!
[2016-11-14 03:06:22] Shaman : btc doesnt like to move a little ^^ it either goes sideways or jumps
[2016-11-14 03:06:40] Shaman : at least thats how it seems lately :p
[2016-11-14 03:08:12] UncleWruncle : lol yeah i know eh
[2016-11-14 03:39:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 702.84
[2016-11-14 03:51:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 300 @ 702.95
[2016-11-14 03:53:04] UncleWruncle : REKT: how do you know?
[2016-11-14 04:16:45] Cryptlex : It's a bot
[2016-11-14 04:46:29] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: This is just a display bug, we will fix
[2016-11-14 07:38:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.011029
[2016-11-14 08:13:49] rapidtrades : how low can ZEC go before it rips off ur face? find out today!
[2016-11-14 09:01:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 9 @ 703.73
[2016-11-14 09:12:53] Apocalyptic : rapid: i'm looking forward to the squeeze as well
[2016-11-14 09:14:17] wurstgelee : it will come
[2016-11-14 09:14:30] wurstgelee : meanwhile please fill my buys @ ~ .05
[2016-11-14 09:14:32] wurstgelee : thank you ;)
[2016-11-14 09:16:01] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: you would have to ask someone who is long :)
[2016-11-14 09:16:43] wurstgelee : you think most fills are colsed underwater-longs currently?
[2016-11-14 09:16:53] wurstgelee : and no opened/added shorts?
[2016-11-14 09:16:57] wurstgelee : *closed
[2016-11-14 09:17:24] wurstgelee : dont/didnt track open value so i cant tell
[2016-11-14 09:17:45] Apocalyptic : I think OI is going up steadily
[2016-11-14 09:17:56] Apocalyptic : haven't been tacking it precisely though
[2016-11-14 09:18:37] wurstgelee : it isnt declining at least
[2016-11-14 09:19:02] wurstgelee : so since price is going down, so should value if the amount of contracts stays the same.
[2016-11-14 09:19:09] wurstgelee : so probably more contracts
[2016-11-14 09:19:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-14 09:20:21] Apocalyptic : yeah, people recklessly opening shorts at these levels
[2016-11-14 09:20:25] Apocalyptic : what can go wrong...
[2016-11-14 09:28:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20000 @ 704.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-14 09:28:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 180 @ 704.24
[2016-11-14 09:42:11] Gekko : Funny, no one seems to be watching CNY...well on way to 7 to USD
[2016-11-14 09:42:29] Gekko : correlation with XBT pretty strong...
[2016-11-14 11:56:54] dasdfasdf : Gekko: Everyone is watching
[2016-11-14 12:17:16] zanza : wow CNH 6.85
[2016-11-14 13:28:56] Gekko : 7 before Trump gets the keys to the White House
[2016-11-14 14:28:54] jung1 : hello
[2016-11-14 14:29:38] jung1 : what is today mood of trollbox?
[2016-11-14 14:29:42] jung1 : log short?
[2016-11-14 14:30:41] y1uy : short btc
[2016-11-14 14:32:47] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McT9C6uo9eU
[2016-11-14 14:35:13] laisee : everyone is waiting for rapidtrades to rescue ZEC single-handed
[2016-11-14 14:35:28] y1uy : I love that Josh guy
[2016-11-14 14:35:29] y1uy : no homo
[2016-11-14 14:36:01] jung1 : yeah he is really good
[2016-11-14 14:37:47] y1uy : btc to 600-640
[2016-11-14 14:37:55] y1uy : good chance
[2016-11-14 14:41:43] jung1 : hope so
[2016-11-14 15:11:09] Rado : Gekko: actually correlation is not strong at all
[2016-11-14 15:11:44] Rado : CNY has been making new highs where BTC is not
[2016-11-14 15:11:51] Rado : that is not good correlation
[2016-11-14 15:16:50] Rado : y1uy: I don't see BTC going to $600
[2016-11-14 15:17:06] Rado : what will be the catalyst for such a move?
[2016-11-14 15:17:16] y1uy : Rado: A move down to 625-650 is more appropriate
[2016-11-14 15:17:24] Rado : why?
[2016-11-14 15:17:33] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McT9C6uo9eU
[2016-11-14 15:17:34] y1uy : funadamental and technical reasons
[2016-11-14 15:17:38] jung1 : 13min
[2016-11-14 15:17:50] Rado : technical I agree
[2016-11-14 15:17:56] Rado : what are fundamental reasons?
[2016-11-14 15:18:06] Rado : demand for BTC is increasing not decreasing
[2016-11-14 15:18:08] y1uy : china btc uncertainty
[2016-11-14 15:18:17] y1uy : regulation
[2016-11-14 15:18:45] Rado : we shall see
[2016-11-14 15:19:05] Rado : I think chance of going to $800 is higher than going to $600
[2016-11-14 15:19:58] Rado : Bitstamp volume bigger than Bitfinex
[2016-11-14 15:19:58] rapidtrades : doubtful
[2016-11-14 15:19:59] y1uy : for what reasons?
[2016-11-14 15:20:42] Rado : India banning cash, huge adoption of BTC related applications
[2016-11-14 15:20:47] Rado : banking, payments etc
[2016-11-14 15:20:55] y1uy : india yes i agree
[2016-11-14 15:20:57] y1uy : but not enough
[2016-11-14 15:21:24] Rado : if you see what's happening in the software development space you will be amazed
[2016-11-14 15:21:27] y1uy : when Plutus comes out ill agree with the second one
[2016-11-14 15:21:39] y1uy : you think?
[2016-11-14 15:22:37] rasdasd : zed dead cat to 0.1 probably
[2016-11-14 15:22:39] rasdasd : zec
[2016-11-14 15:23:25] mjones : Will zec short squeeze here?
[2016-11-14 15:23:36] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-11-14 15:23:42] rapidtrades : get out before the storm
[2016-11-14 15:29:28] wurstgelee : no, short more
[2016-11-14 15:29:30] wurstgelee : it safe
[2016-11-14 15:29:35] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-14 15:32:07] rasdasd : wurstgelee: its gonna bounce to 0.1 probably
[2016-11-14 15:32:25] rasdasd : 0.06 was starting price on bitmex
[2016-11-14 15:32:35] wurstgelee : 0.025 ...
[2016-11-14 15:35:10] Rado : missed to short XMR again 0.0115
[2016-11-14 15:39:21] rasdasd : wurstgelee: well anyway zec is easy double short term
[2016-11-14 15:40:44] jung1 : or go to 0.03
[2016-11-14 15:41:09] sleger : since when is that guy ^ against shitcoins ???
[2016-11-14 15:42:31] jung1 : trend is your friend
[2016-11-14 15:43:14] rapidtrades : u mean the trend from 0 to $104?
[2016-11-14 15:44:43] jung1 : form 3000btc to 0.06
[2016-11-14 15:44:45] jung1 : hehe
[2016-11-14 15:45:35] rapidtrades : man the dollar is ripping higher
[2016-11-14 15:46:04] rapidtrades : prolly a large yuan devaluation tonight
[2016-11-14 15:46:31] rasdasd : zec was planned to pump..guys behind it have a shitload of $$..it will pump once more, but before it dump dump
[2016-11-14 15:46:42] rapidtrades : offshore already moved from 6.81 to 6.85
[2016-11-14 15:49:15] jung1 : ime we will fall under 700
[2016-11-14 15:49:20] jung1 : i couple of hours
[2016-11-14 15:49:42] rasdasd : jung1: dont think so..this was shake out before real pump
[2016-11-14 15:50:22] rapidtrades : don't see bitcoin breaking the uptrend while the dollar is strong
[2016-11-14 15:50:23] anonymous789 : rasdasd: on the hourly btc has made another lower high, signals downside to me
[2016-11-14 15:50:33] rapidtrades : China will just keep devaluing
[2016-11-14 15:51:19] rasdasd : anonymous789: it doesnt matter it was same in nov 1023
[2016-11-14 15:51:22] rasdasd : 2013
[2016-11-14 15:51:45] rapidtrades : noone but newbs looks the at hourly chart
[2016-11-14 15:52:01] anonymous789 : i feel btc needs to break above this point with some strength and go to around ~710 for confirmation of reversal to the upside
[2016-11-14 15:52:09] rasdasd : rapidtrades: exactly..look at 1w chart
[2016-11-14 15:52:14] Rado : anonymous789: you can short and make money
[2016-11-14 15:52:20] anonymous789 : i am shorting
[2016-11-14 15:52:23] anonymous789 : i shorted at 721
[2016-11-14 15:52:26] anonymous789 : still holding
[2016-11-14 15:52:38] jung1 : nice
[2016-11-14 15:52:40] Rado : and didn't get profit at $680?
[2016-11-14 15:52:41] rasdasd : told you to buy some zec..bouncy..double easy
[2016-11-14 15:52:59] anonymous789 : 1w chart is not for traders
[2016-11-14 15:53:04] Rado : rasdasd: double only in your dreams
[2016-11-14 15:53:06] anonymous789 : that's more for investors imo
[2016-11-14 15:53:10] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-14 15:53:14] mjones : Zec doesn't go up on bitmex
[2016-11-14 15:53:16] anonymous789 : look at daily and for confirmation look at hourly
[2016-11-14 15:53:19] rapidtrades : i invested ur mum last night @anonymous789
[2016-11-14 15:53:32] anonymous789 : bitmex mod can we ban rapidtrades
[2016-11-14 15:53:35] rapidtrades : mixing timeframes doesn't work for me
[2016-11-14 15:53:37] BitMEX_Greg : haha
[2016-11-14 15:53:52] rasdasd : rapidtrades: thats a good investment bro
[2016-11-14 15:53:53] anonymous789 : BitMEX_Greg: that's not funny is it, you guys are supposed to be a professional exchange
[2016-11-14 15:54:07] anonymous789 : BitMEX_Greg: pathetic
[2016-11-14 15:54:11] Rado : anonymous789: we need some entertainment when BTC is not moving
[2016-11-14 15:54:47] jung1 : 100btc sell wall on finex
[2016-11-14 15:54:54] CaptainDean : anonymous789: it's a troll box and you don't know Rapid
[2016-11-14 15:55:10] anonymous789 : Rado: figured the trollbox for an exchange would be good to talk about price speculation...
[2016-11-14 15:55:19] CaptainDean : anonymous789: it is not :P
[2016-11-14 15:55:26] Rado : anonymous789: it is good
[2016-11-14 15:55:32] Rado : just don't mind rapidtrades
[2016-11-14 15:55:32] anonymous789 : CaptainDean: evidently
[2016-11-14 15:55:39] BitMEX_Greg : anonymous789: While we are a professional exchange, as long as they are not spamming or posting suspicious links to dodgy sites then we let users roam as they please. It is called the Trollbox for a reason
[2016-11-14 15:55:44] rapidtrades : anonymous789: it's good for talking about ur mum too
[2016-11-14 15:56:23] anonymous789 : i'd like to perhaps have an intelligent conversation
[2016-11-14 15:56:24] jung1 : rapid is like kid with down syndrome, you know that something is wrong but you still love him
[2016-11-14 15:56:49] rapidtrades : tnx?
[2016-11-14 15:57:03] jung1 : conversations here are really cool
[2016-11-14 15:57:11] jung1 : yo can have nice info before others
[2016-11-14 15:57:19] anonymous789 : anyway, the hourly showing a 3rd lower high, the daily says we need to see further retracement before we can have another go to the upside, just my opinion
[2016-11-14 15:57:29] mjones : Mark zec to polo so the price moves here please
[2016-11-14 15:57:32] jung1 : participate in altcoins vs bitcoin wars
[2016-11-14 15:57:48] Rado : rapidtrades: you need to become friends with anonymous789
[2016-11-14 15:57:51] jung1 : yeah
[2016-11-14 15:57:52] Rado : mjones: it is marked
[2016-11-14 15:57:56] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: It is marked to Polo
[2016-11-14 15:58:03] jung1 : imo we will go down
[2016-11-14 15:58:06] rapidtrades : Rado: he'll like me eventually...they all do :)
[2016-11-14 15:58:12] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-14 15:58:52] mjones : Well shit the price doesn't move then like the other altcoins on here
[2016-11-14 15:58:55] anonymous789 : i'd definitely be looking to close my short >706-707 i think
[2016-11-14 15:58:59] mjones : Shitcoin indeed
[2016-11-14 15:59:06] anonymous789 : if it breaks this downtrend line
[2016-11-14 15:59:29] Rado : CME Group Launches Bitcoin Price Indexes
[2016-11-14 15:59:40] rasdasd : mjones: exactly it went up 30% on polo and here nothing
[2016-11-14 16:01:02] jung1 : lets make ouw price index
[2016-11-14 16:01:05] jung1 : own
[2016-11-14 16:01:10] Rado : BitMEX_Greg: maybe you can use this new index for BTC
[2016-11-14 16:01:32] Rado : oh they publish it only once per day
[2016-11-14 16:01:33] Rado : lol
[2016-11-14 16:01:36] Rado : losers
[2016-11-14 16:01:37] BitMEX_Greg : Rado: Yeah we have seen that. Personally I am not a fan of it
[2016-11-14 16:01:37] rapidtrades : current index is fine
[2016-11-14 16:01:48] mjones : Guess I'll never long zec again. Can't even get a short squeeze going
[2016-11-14 16:02:33] Rado : mjones: too early
[2016-11-14 16:02:39] wurstgelee : yep. patience....
[2016-11-14 16:02:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-14 16:03:55] arbitrage001 : need to fomo hard for profit
[2016-11-14 16:04:06] Rado : The IRS Gets Told to Work on Its Bitcoin Taxation Plan
[2016-11-14 16:04:17] Apocalyptic : 'Can't even get a short squeeze going' <- this
[2016-11-14 16:04:30] Apocalyptic : so disappointing
[2016-11-14 16:04:48] arbitrage001 : not likely to fomo to > 2btc
[2016-11-14 16:05:49] Rado : ZEC will go up 200% from 0.01 to 0.03
[2016-11-14 16:05:57] rasdasd : Rado: haha true
[2016-11-14 16:06:00] arbitrage001 : still lose money then
[2016-11-14 16:06:17] arbitrage001 : but i do have a huge bid at 0.01
[2016-11-14 16:06:38] mjones : 400 more contacts open for zec and it only went down .09 to .057
[2016-11-14 16:07:12] arbitrage001 : mjones: reason why i think either long or short going to lose a lot of money
[2016-11-14 16:08:32] rapidtrades : yuan 6.86
[2016-11-14 16:09:10] BitMEX_Greg : Bitcoin always lags with CNY
[2016-11-14 16:10:09] Rado : USDCNH new highs
[2016-11-14 16:10:33] Rado : BitMEX_Greg: I think it's not a simple correlation
[2016-11-14 16:11:34] BitMEX_Greg : I know, I ran some numbers for one of the articles a while back. Found there is more correlation to CNH than CNY, and also when you lag bitcoin against the CNH price too
[2016-11-14 16:11:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 80 @ 0.010729
[2016-11-14 16:11:39] jung1 : http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/cf-bitcoin-reference-rate.html
[2016-11-14 16:13:53] rasdasd : why is zec cheaper here than on polo
[2016-11-14 16:14:14] Rado : rasdasd: here is a future priced for Dec 30
[2016-11-14 16:14:21] jung1 : couse its future here
[2016-11-14 16:14:28] Rado : so people think ZEC will be lower in the future
[2016-11-14 16:14:37] rasdasd : Rado: yep thanks
[2016-11-14 16:14:45] jung1 : it depend on us what will be the future price of any coin
[2016-11-14 16:14:51] rapidtrades : rasdasd: ppl here are not the brightest bunch
[2016-11-14 16:14:57] mjones : People are short heavy and don't want to take profit and new buyers don't want to long
[2016-11-14 16:15:00] Rado : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-14 16:16:25] arbitrage001 : rasdasd: this is the only place to short, and liquidity providers will only provide liquidity at high premium
[2016-11-14 16:16:29] arbitrage001 : or discount
[2016-11-14 16:17:25] sleger : which is it, premium or discount ?
[2016-11-14 16:17:34] arbitrage001 : discount
[2016-11-14 16:17:46] rapidtrades : premium?
[2016-11-14 16:18:20] jpc : At high cost Moreno or less
[2016-11-14 16:18:38] jung1 : https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ethcores-gavin-wood-collaborates-melon-105813191.html
[2016-11-14 16:18:41] Rado : if you calculate the rate ZEC is falling the price has a huge premium
[2016-11-14 16:19:14] jpc : More or less
[2016-11-14 16:19:19] rasdasd : 0.03 would be nice price to buy some zec
[2016-11-14 16:19:28] arbitrage001 : Rado: trading isn't simple math solving problems
[2016-11-14 16:19:47] rasdasd : but its probably gonna bounce to 0.1
[2016-11-14 16:19:50] rasdasd : first
[2016-11-14 16:19:53] Rado : arbitrage001: most time it's not even math
[2016-11-14 16:19:58] rapidtrades : who generally trades higher for BTCEUR? Kraken or BitStamp? or
[2016-11-14 16:20:04] Rado : you must be blind not to see that ZEC is going down
[2016-11-14 16:20:21] arbitrage001 : Rado: of course, otherwise only mathematicians can rule supreme
[2016-11-14 16:20:36] Rado : rapidtrades: it used to be Kraken, but not recently
[2016-11-14 16:20:40] jpc : Faling knives
[2016-11-14 16:21:10] Rado : oh wow
[2016-11-14 16:21:14] Rado : Kraken is at $712
[2016-11-14 16:21:36] rapidtrades : btceur
[2016-11-14 16:21:48] rapidtrades : i mean on average not now
[2016-11-14 16:22:00] rapidtrades : cos I haven't been folowing this pair
[2016-11-14 16:28:30] lockhedge : rapidtrades: you can compare historical prices here http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/price/7d/EUR?c=e&r=hour&t=l
[2016-11-14 16:32:29] Rado : lockhedge: nice chart
[2016-11-14 16:32:33] rapidtrades : lockhedge: tnx
[2016-11-14 16:32:51] rapidtrades : so is Fidor bank on a shitlist? or just my bank shitty
[2016-11-14 16:33:06] rapidtrades : i see kraken uses them as a bank
[2016-11-14 16:33:36] rasdasd : lots of ZEC accumulation on polo
[2016-11-14 16:34:48] rapidtrades : i'm trying to figure out if I should use a different bank or different exchange
[2016-11-14 16:34:50] jung1 : well its not bad price to go long
[2016-11-14 16:34:59] rapidtrades : anyone know what bank bitstamp uses?
[2016-11-14 16:35:52] lockhedge : it used to be Unicredit
[2016-11-14 16:36:11] jung1 : https://www.bitstamp.net/article/new-banking-details/
[2016-11-14 16:36:18] rasdasd : I am probably gonna risk and buy some zec contracts...we are near bottom I would say
[2016-11-14 16:37:11] jung1 : yeah I have buy orders at 0.05
[2016-11-14 16:42:38] mjones : I'm sure zec will pump on polo and dump / not move here
[2016-11-14 16:42:44] jung1 : keep dumping btc
[2016-11-14 16:42:49] rasdasd : mjones: looks like
[2016-11-14 16:43:36] rasdasd : zec looks good on polo
[2016-11-14 16:44:36] mjones : Btc dumping. Buy zec here to hedge
[2016-11-14 16:44:47] rapidtrades : BUY ZEC
[2016-11-14 16:45:13] rasdasd : Zec to 0.1 probably if btc dumps
[2016-11-14 16:45:54] daimenw : dump btc?
[2016-11-14 16:45:59] jung1 : yup
[2016-11-14 16:46:04] jung1 : finex testing 700
[2016-11-14 16:46:05] daimenw : hmm
[2016-11-14 16:46:53] daimenw : shortinh
[2016-11-14 16:47:04] jung1 : seee ya at 690
[2016-11-14 16:47:14] javierstone : she's going down
[2016-11-14 16:47:16] daimenw : yup
[2016-11-14 16:47:33] daimenw : that was a quick buck
[2016-11-14 16:47:51] daimenw : what volumes are you guys trading
[2016-11-14 16:49:06] jung1 : depends
[2016-11-14 16:49:24] rasdasd : zec short are gonna get rekt
[2016-11-14 16:50:19] daimenw : keep dumping btc
[2016-11-14 16:51:59] jung1 : 40btc on finex to 698
[2016-11-14 16:52:10] jung1 : and 150 to 702
[2016-11-14 16:52:16] jung1 : looks good
[2016-11-14 16:52:36] hhhhh : rasdasd: you really think that your fud will make people exit their shorts and sell this useless coin? c'mon...
[2016-11-14 16:53:12] rasdasd : hhhhh: what you said doesnt make sense
[2016-11-14 16:53:25] rapidtrades : hhhhh: he's trying to help u stupid
[2016-11-14 16:53:30] Apocalyptic : rasdasd: honestly rapid does it better
[2016-11-14 16:54:16] rasdasd : Apocalyptic: rapid only likes to invest in milfs
[2016-11-14 16:54:25] hhhhh : rasdasd: mathematically it doesn't make sense to long ZEC for at least another 1-2 months
[2016-11-14 16:55:04] rasdasd : hhhhh: what in crypto have sense?
[2016-11-14 16:55:32] rasdasd : zec has only 3M marketcap
[2016-11-14 16:55:37] rasdasd : esa x10
[2016-11-14 16:55:39] rasdasd : easy
[2016-11-14 16:55:47] hhhhh : rasdasd: right now, the only thing that make sense is to short ZEC cause the coin makes no sense :)
[2016-11-14 16:56:28] hhhhh : rasdasd: no millionaire invests in this shit trust me.
[2016-11-14 16:56:45] hhhhh : whales trade with like 50k
[2016-11-14 16:56:51] rasdasd : hhhhh: they wont..they will pump and dump it
[2016-11-14 16:58:54] hhhhh : rasdasd: nobody in their right mind would do that cause if he pumps he would need to sell too and there are thousands of angry 15 year olds who jumped in at 1 BTC ready to dump the shit out of the coins
[2016-11-14 16:59:47] daimenw : rapidtrades:
[2016-11-14 16:59:53] daimenw : oh sorry, accident
[2016-11-14 17:01:19] rasdasd : hhhhh: 15y old kids already panic sold at loss
[2016-11-14 17:02:49] daimenw : rasdasd: lol true
[2016-11-14 17:04:46] hhhhh : rasdasd: im just saying, i have seen this type of scheme so many times in crypto. make there will be 1-2 pathetic pumps but in 2 months this coins will be on the level of Monero or even less, since Monero is already the currency of the deepweb. not to mention that the coin's tech can be copied without any effort, and it has nowhere near the first moving adv. that bitcoin had back in the day.
[2016-11-14 17:05:18] jung1 : stamp is fighting to keep price
[2016-11-14 17:06:10] Apocalyptic : hhhhh: sound analysis
[2016-11-14 17:12:21] jung1 : finex gonna break 700
[2016-11-14 17:12:26] jung1 : freefall comming!
[2016-11-14 17:28:48] jung1 : cmon bitcoin
[2016-11-14 17:28:50] jung1 : telit fall
[2016-11-14 17:33:26] jung1 : finex 700