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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-11-13 13:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.010846 [2016-11-13 13:28:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 690.42 [2016-11-13 13:39:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 689.61 [2016-11-13 13:40:10] mjones : big btc dump on okcoin [2016-11-13 13:40:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 689.50 [2016-11-13 13:40:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 688.20 [2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 686.72 [2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3403 @ 687.16 [2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14649 @ 686.99 [2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : HODL HODL HODL! [2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 700 @ 687.41 [2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 485716 @ 687.01 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2016-11-13 13:40:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14400 @ 686.44 [2016-11-13 13:40:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 686.54 [2016-11-13 13:41:02] mjones : 485716 ouch [2016-11-13 13:41:35] Kalman : boo: 14:40 - REKT: Liquidated long on XBTUSD: Sell 485716 @ 687.01 REKTosaurus ? ? ? [2016-11-13 13:42:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 686.20 [2016-11-13 14:03:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 685.65 [2016-11-13 14:22:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 5000 @ 695.84 [2016-11-13 14:45:32] y1uy : lol [2016-11-13 14:45:34] y1uy : rektening [2016-11-13 14:46:24] y1uy : btc will bounce like my girlfriends tits [2016-11-13 14:46:52] y1uy : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ws4DRFkS/ [2016-11-13 14:52:53] JamesPolo : y1uy: sure [2016-11-13 14:56:21] RoftheN : Wow [2016-11-13 15:08:38] JamesPolo : Xbt16 be [2016-11-13 15:08:43] JamesPolo : below 700 [2016-11-13 15:20:44] rapidtrades : guys noooooo [2016-11-13 15:21:01] Ieperen : ? [2016-11-13 15:21:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.014950 [2016-11-13 15:29:00] mbaril : going up ? [2016-11-13 15:29:29] rapidtrades : bounce woooo [2016-11-13 15:29:33] rapidtrades : go shitcoin! [2016-11-13 15:29:51] mbaril : ahahah [2016-11-13 15:30:34] y1uy : :) [2016-11-13 15:31:59] JamesPolo : I quit [2016-11-13 15:32:08] JamesPolo : stupid market [2016-11-13 15:41:56] mbaril : rollercoaster [2016-11-13 15:42:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 240 @ 694.30 [2016-11-13 15:43:32] rapidtrades : wow so much bounce! [2016-11-13 15:44:05] y1uy : told you guys [2016-11-13 15:44:14] y1uy : it will rebounce [2016-11-13 15:44:17] y1uy : like my girls tits [2016-11-13 15:44:58] Bacon futures trader : Nice bounce buy the dip from now [2016-11-13 15:45:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 80 @ 0.010713 [2016-11-13 15:46:01] kradiav : all in on XMR... best time to buy [2016-11-13 15:46:31] y1uy : kradiav: why ? [2016-11-13 15:46:47] kradiav : dip + fundamentals [2016-11-13 15:48:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 4000 @ 710.73 [2016-11-13 15:49:05] janos666 : best time to buy was 0.007, this is the place to sell if you did (and short if it spikes up hard) [2016-11-13 15:50:11] kradiav : XMR holds strong [2016-11-13 16:00:02] Rado : pretty good bounce on BTC [2016-11-13 16:03:08] j8 : pretty damn bullish if that's a bottom for now [2016-11-13 16:03:34] Rado : bounced at the same area as last time [2016-11-13 16:03:47] Rado : also 680s was the the resistance before the breakout [2016-11-13 16:04:44] j8 : yeah nice horizontal resistance at 4670 cny [2016-11-13 16:06:38] Rado : I know ZEC is going to 0.01, but not shorting it [2016-11-13 16:06:55] Rado : not sure why I skip on thase easy trades [2016-11-13 16:07:37] Bacon futures trader : ZEC is a liquidity trap [2016-11-13 16:07:42] arbitrage001 : risk/reward not worth it [2016-11-13 16:07:55] j8 : 0.01.. that's like $7, pretty lowball for dec 30. given the risk [2016-11-13 16:08:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.010445 [2016-11-13 16:08:19] Bacon futures trader : ZEC has no intrinsic value imo [2016-11-13 16:08:25] arbitrage001 : $7 is below the earlier investor price [2016-11-13 16:08:35] arbitrage001 : btc has intrinsic value? [2016-11-13 16:08:45] Bacon futures trader : No, but it's different [2016-11-13 16:09:13] Bacon futures trader : Cba to discuss lol [2016-11-13 16:10:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJZ16`: Buy 3000 @ 78037 [2016-11-13 16:11:49] j8 : XBJ is pretty wild.. sometimes the MM whipsaws like $10 [2016-11-13 16:14:04] Rado : arbitrage001: what is the investors price? [2016-11-13 16:14:40] Rado : j8: I switched to XBTZ16 as soon as it came out [2016-11-13 16:14:45] Rado : much better [2016-11-13 16:15:10] j8 : yeah, liquidity's pretty good there. i only trade XBJ for the arbs. [2016-11-13 16:15:44] Rado : I wish BitMEX will list next quarterly earlier [2016-11-13 16:16:02] Rado : doesn't make sense to wait until Dec 30 [2016-11-13 16:16:48] j8 : yeah they usually do it a bit before. [2016-11-13 16:16:50] arbitrage001 : Rado: someone mentioned 15 dollars [2016-11-13 16:17:11] Rado : arbitrage001: this doesn't make sense [2016-11-13 16:17:20] arbitrage001 : what doesn't ? [2016-11-13 16:17:48] sleger : Rado: be careful with XBJ, there was a glitch a few weeks ago and people got liquidated at 50000 or around that [2016-11-13 16:17:51] j8 : the 15 dollar price comes from dividing the total investment by the number of coins the investors get [2016-11-13 16:18:10] Rado : sleger: I don't trade it anymore [2016-11-13 16:18:49] Rado : j8: but is that only for current distribution [2016-11-13 16:18:55] Rado : they will get more in th efuture [2016-11-13 16:19:07] j8 : it's for the total amount after 4 years [2016-11-13 16:19:16] Rado : really [2016-11-13 16:19:21] arbitrage001 : looks like bull going to lose the bet anyway [2016-11-13 16:19:22] Rado : bad investment then [2016-11-13 16:19:23] Rado : :-) [2016-11-13 16:19:45] j8 : i think so. but they also got equity in the zcash company, the $15 price would value that equity at zero [2016-11-13 16:19:57] Rado : right [2016-11-13 16:20:18] j8 : it's possible that zcash fails and the company succeeds at something else, though i doubt it [2016-11-13 16:21:40] arbitrage001 : having a sillicon valley company developing a coin got to mean something [2016-11-13 16:22:47] rapidtrades : apparently it means 0.067 to the idiots here [2016-11-13 16:23:15] Tetsuo : WOW, chickun [2016-11-13 16:23:17] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: odd of bull losing is high [2016-11-13 16:23:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 990 @ 697.04 [2016-11-13 16:23:36] arbitrage001 : i am not so happy holding 45 zec contract [2016-11-13 16:23:50] arbitrage001 : was a long shot anyway [2016-11-13 16:23:51] Tetsuo : lol [2016-11-13 16:24:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4000 @ 698.47 [2016-11-13 16:24:28] Bacon futures trader : bitcoin short liquidations incoming [2016-11-13 16:24:36] Bacon futures trader : lol one second too late [2016-11-13 16:25:10] j8 : squeeze time? [2016-11-13 16:25:17] Rado : wow [2016-11-13 16:25:18] Rado : cool [2016-11-13 16:25:59] Rado : I got stopped out in profit on my XBTZ16 at 725 [2016-11-13 16:26:05] rapidtrades : bitcoin is saved [2016-11-13 16:26:06] Rado : got back in at 705 [2016-11-13 16:26:12] Rado : pretty cool [2016-11-13 16:26:29] Rado : rapidtrades: what's going on man [2016-11-13 16:26:44] arbitrage001 : will keep sucking on btc funding [2016-11-13 16:26:54] rapidtrades : nm living the thug live @Rado [2016-11-13 16:27:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.003122 [2016-11-13 16:27:45] Rado : I shorted XMR at 0.01134, but was to fast to close it at 0.01080 [2016-11-13 16:27:57] Rado : fear is the worse enemy of trading [2016-11-13 16:28:25] arbitrage001 : Rado: how big is your position relative to your balance [2016-11-13 16:28:35] j8 : fear is the mind-killer [2016-11-13 16:28:44] arbitrage001 : fear is coorelated to leverage you used here [2016-11-13 16:28:56] Rado : I have two XBT position now and my lev says 1.31x [2016-11-13 16:29:29] arbitrage001 : if you only use less than 20% of your capital on each new position [2016-11-13 16:29:34] arbitrage001 : you will never fear [2016-11-13 16:29:35] rapidtrades : you should fear greed more then u fear fear [2016-11-13 16:29:47] Rado : arbitrage001: I use lest than 5% [2016-11-13 16:29:58] arbitrage001 : then you have nothing to fear [2016-11-13 16:30:25] rapidtrades : im below 5% too and i still fear :) [2016-11-13 16:30:49] Rado : rapidtrades: of course [2016-11-13 16:30:59] Rado : with lev 5% can still wipe you out [2016-11-13 16:31:09] Rado : I still have liq price even if it's far [2016-11-13 16:31:20] Rado : I can't sleep without a stop [2016-11-13 16:32:41] Rado : ETH was a nice short at 0.015 [2016-11-13 16:33:13] arbitrage001 : still a nice short in my opinion [2016-11-13 16:33:25] arbitrage001 : till market cap drop by half [2016-11-13 16:34:16] rapidtrades : ppl shorting zcash at 0.07 are the same ppl that wouldve shorted btc at 3 after it fell from 30 [2016-11-13 16:34:37] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: everyone is gambling [2016-11-13 16:35:12] arbitrage001 : beside, once the contract expire, who know what will happen to price [2016-11-13 16:35:26] arbitrage001 : unless you plan to convert your long position [2016-11-13 16:35:34] arbitrage001 : odd of winning is rather small now [2016-11-13 16:36:10] rapidtrades : at 0.07 why not convert [2016-11-13 16:36:30] arbitrage001 : have to wait till premium is gone [2016-11-13 16:36:36] arbitrage001 : i mean discount [2016-11-13 16:37:53] rapidtrades : only costs 0.1 to exchange now [2016-11-13 16:38:37] arbitrage001 : a whopping 60% [2016-11-13 16:38:44] RoftheN : Damn I missed the bottom [2016-11-13 16:39:48] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: ppl are retarded here, they used any polo rally to pile on [2016-11-13 16:39:56] Rado : sold half of my XBTUSD at 699 [2016-11-13 16:40:53] wurstgelee : tempted to sell [2016-11-13 16:40:55] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: if you think traders here are retarded, take advantage of it [2016-11-13 16:40:57] wurstgelee : not sure yet [2016-11-13 16:41:11] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: sell what? zcash? [2016-11-13 16:41:21] wurstgelee : no, xbtusd [2016-11-13 16:41:22] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-13 16:42:26] wurstgelee : half seemed reasonable. ;) [2016-11-13 16:46:40] CaptainDean : been busy this weekend missed a lot of action [2016-11-13 16:46:47] j8 : near the bottom there was a bid for 35k contracts on okc quarterly. right before we went up [2016-11-13 16:47:52] wurstgelee : polo having fun with zec [2016-11-13 16:47:57] wurstgelee : .184 [2016-11-13 16:48:00] wurstgelee : .185 [2016-11-13 16:48:00] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: how so? [2016-11-13 16:48:02] Rado : j8: signal to get in maybe :-) [2016-11-13 16:48:07] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: pumping [2016-11-13 16:48:31] wurstgelee : well, its not a pump yet ofc..but interesting. [2016-11-13 16:48:47] wurstgelee : .189 [2016-11-13 16:48:48] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: i do hope there is another fomo [2016-11-13 16:48:54] arbitrage001 : before dec 30 [2016-11-13 16:49:03] arbitrage001 : who know how high it will go this time [2016-11-13 16:49:08] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-13 16:49:17] wurstgelee : looks good so far [2016-11-13 16:49:17] wurstgelee : 192 [2016-11-13 16:49:24] arbitrage001 : nice hah [2016-11-13 16:50:42] Rado : 150 bid here [2016-11-13 16:51:27] wurstgelee : 200 ;) [2016-11-13 16:51:42] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: are you the one pumping? [2016-11-13 16:51:43] wurstgelee : aaaand back to hidden ;) [2016-11-13 16:51:46] wurstgelee : no [2016-11-13 16:51:58] rapidtrades : im pumping [2016-11-13 16:52:06] wurstgelee : 50 of those were mine tho ;) [2016-11-13 16:52:09] Rado : bought some [2016-11-13 16:52:15] wurstgelee : 198 [2016-11-13 16:52:22] wurstgelee : :D [2016-11-13 16:55:13] rapidtrades : everyone is in on the ZECparty [2016-11-13 16:55:29] wurstgelee : never left tbh ;) [2016-11-13 16:55:31] rapidtrades : mode of transportation = train [2016-11-13 16:55:33] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: just the fearless gamblers [2016-11-13 16:55:39] rapidtrades : destination = moon [2016-11-13 16:59:16] wurstgelee : not bad at least [2016-11-13 16:59:26] wurstgelee : .2 out of nothing [2016-11-13 16:59:30] wurstgelee : promising for more to come [2016-11-13 16:59:31] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-13 17:00:34] Rado : futures here are not buying the pump yet [2016-11-13 17:01:02] wurstgelee : i am not either ;) [2016-11-13 17:01:16] arbitrage001 : dont think there is major MM here touch zcash [2016-11-13 17:01:25] QuantFocus : this rally is false hope [2016-11-13 17:02:01] wurstgelee : probably a polo whale splashing. [2016-11-13 17:02:11] wurstgelee : still interesting =) [2016-11-13 17:14:44] Rado : ZEC will bottom at some point [2016-11-13 17:14:49] Rado : I have no idea where :-) [2016-11-13 17:16:12] wurstgelee : hehe, same [2016-11-13 17:16:21] wurstgelee : really no idea [2016-11-13 17:16:42] arbitrage001 : the open interest is quite high [2016-11-13 17:17:07] wurstgelee : few gamblers hold a lot of longs i guess [2016-11-13 17:17:26] arbitrage001 : and majority shorters are small fish? [2016-11-13 17:17:47] wurstgelee : maybe not majority but more than longs [2016-11-13 17:18:00] wurstgelee : just a wild guess based on my gutt [2016-11-13 17:18:01] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-13 17:19:59] rapidtrades : look at that retard, selling at 0.068 with polo rallying above 0.20 [2016-11-13 17:21:35] NL007 : Edward Snowden: Anonymous ‘Zcash’ Could Solve Bitcoin Surveillance Risks [2016-11-13 17:21:49] wurstgelee : NL007: lol? [2016-11-13 17:21:53] wurstgelee : source? [2016-11-13 17:22:08] NL007 : https://news.bitcoin.com/snowden-zcash-bitcoin-risks/ [2016-11-13 17:22:16] arbitrage001 : very old news [2016-11-13 17:22:21] arbitrage001 : dated june, dude [2016-11-13 17:22:24] wurstgelee : ah lol [2016-11-13 17:22:25] wurstgelee : k [2016-11-13 17:22:27] wurstgelee : that one [2016-11-13 17:22:46] rapidtrades : i hate snowden [2016-11-13 17:22:51] rapidtrades : russian bitch [2016-11-13 17:25:53] NL007 : People now using snowden to pump zec [2016-11-13 17:26:04] NL007 : outfated quotes [2016-11-13 17:26:10] NL007 : outdated [2016-11-13 17:26:30] NL007 : Polo going bezerk [2016-11-13 17:26:35] NL007 : lol [2016-11-13 17:26:52] arbitrage001 : NL007: how big is your short position [2016-11-13 17:27:04] rapidtrades : 700 contracts no doubt [2016-11-13 17:27:10] rapidtrades : about to get RektEd [2016-11-13 17:27:38] NL007 : i got rekt once with zec [2016-11-13 17:27:57] NL007 : :) [2016-11-13 17:29:00] rapidtrades : soon, twice [2016-11-13 17:29:22] NL007 : rapidtrades: lol [2016-11-13 17:33:19] rapidtrades : has Trump said anything about CHYNA since winning? [2016-11-13 17:33:32] rapidtrades : i see he's already back-tracking on Obamacare [2016-11-13 17:35:47] rapidtrades : http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/10/colleges-cancelled-exams-for-students-tr [2016-11-13 17:35:53] rapidtrades : ^^^ lol more liberal tears [2016-11-13 17:35:58] rapidtrades : the floor doesn't end [2016-11-13 17:36:45] NL007 : rapidtrades: i think the rift in the USA will become huge [2016-11-13 17:36:56] NL007 : it will not end well [2016-11-13 17:37:26] NL007 : never seen this happen after an election in the US [2016-11-13 17:37:45] rapidtrades : it always happens when the right wins [2016-11-13 17:37:55] rapidtrades : cue talk of hitler etc [2016-11-13 17:38:24] rapidtrades : lefties are poor losers [2016-11-13 17:38:56] NL007 : rapidtrades: didnt happen with bush [2016-11-13 17:39:09] NL007 : or reagan [2016-11-13 17:39:32] j8 : can you imagine how much the right would have bitched if they won the popular vote and lost the election? [2016-11-13 17:39:46] NL007 : This is totally different [2016-11-13 17:40:43] rapidtrades : j8: those were the rules of the game tho...if it was popular vote then Reps wouldn't spent more money/time in California for example [2016-11-13 17:40:49] rapidtrades : it was only 200k difference [2016-11-13 17:41:03] rapidtrades : i meant would've spent [2016-11-13 17:41:33] j8 : rapidtrades: it's half a million and still counting, projected to be as much as 2 million [2016-11-13 17:41:46] rapidtrades : doubtful [2016-11-13 17:42:07] j8 : of course its the rules but they were already preparing the "rigged system" talk [2016-11-13 17:42:12] NL007 : rapidtrades: 2 million difference [2016-11-13 17:42:57] rapidtrades : like i said, Reps and Dems didn't even bother to hold rallies in states they thought were 'safe' [2016-11-13 17:43:11] rapidtrades : so it's not really a good excuse for a tantrum imo [2016-11-13 17:44:15] NL007 : trump was against Electoral College vote because it was undemocratic....lol [2016-11-13 17:44:41] NL007 : now he won because of it [2016-11-13 17:44:43] NL007 : lol [2016-11-13 17:44:52] orly : they should both shut up and be happy with their fcked up system that supports their 2party dominance forever [2016-11-13 17:45:35] orly : it's not democratic at all, but they would both lose if they made it more so [2016-11-13 17:45:48] NL007 : orly: it is [2016-11-13 17:46:34] rapidtrades : orly: it' not really that different from other countries with majority parliamentary systems [2016-11-13 17:46:50] wurstgelee : yep [2016-11-13 17:47:06] j8 : the same thing happens in canada. well its a bit different but same idea [2016-11-13 17:47:06] rapidtrades : just u have states instead of electoral units [2016-11-13 17:47:19] wurstgelee : parties with less than 5% pop votes dont make it into the bundestag for example. [2016-11-13 17:47:29] NL007 : wurstgelee: true [2016-11-13 17:47:58] rapidtrades : libertarians only got <4% this time [2016-11-13 17:48:14] rapidtrades : if they couldn't break 5% now, hard to see when [2016-11-13 17:48:15] orly : just because most counties do it, doesn't mean it's good [2016-11-13 17:48:27] orly : most countries are not democratic :) [2016-11-13 17:49:08] j8 : you would think in a democracy every vote would count equally. but they don't [2016-11-13 17:49:33] orly : no, first-past-the-post is already fcked up [2016-11-13 17:49:42] arbitrage001 : wouldnt assume a democratic system is better than what we have [2016-11-13 17:49:45] orly : add this electoral system to that [2016-11-13 17:49:53] orly : and noone can win but one of the two estabilished parties [2016-11-13 17:49:54] NL007 : popular vote should be implemented [2016-11-13 17:49:56] arbitrage001 : ruled by the mob vs ruled by the few [2016-11-13 17:50:03] rapidtrades : President-elect Donald Trump says he will deport or jail as many as three million illegal migrants [2016-11-13 17:50:08] rapidtrades : well that's not good [2016-11-13 17:50:14] NL007 : the guy with most votes wins [2016-11-13 17:50:31] arbitrage001 : there are way more than 3 miliions illdgal migrants [2016-11-13 17:50:41] rapidtrades : he's also keeping 'parts of obamacare' [2016-11-13 17:50:42] j8 : during the campaign they were saying 30 million [2016-11-13 17:50:43] NL007 : The wall will be build [2016-11-13 17:50:45] habibi : tldr; we love democracy as long as our candidate is winning [2016-11-13 17:51:04] arbitrage001 : is he going to stop h1b visa? [2016-11-13 17:51:06] wurstgelee : part of the wall can be a fence.... [2016-11-13 17:51:08] wurstgelee : he said earlier [2016-11-13 17:51:10] arbitrage001 : student visa [2016-11-13 17:51:10] wurstgelee : ; [2016-11-13 17:51:12] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-13 17:51:33] rapidtrades : Trump has named three of his children and his son-in-law to the transition team's executive committee [2016-11-13 17:51:34] NL007 : j8: yes but he wants immediately up to 3 million deported. First start. [2016-11-13 17:51:39] rapidtrades : ^ lol what a twat [2016-11-13 17:51:44] NL007 : More will follow [2016-11-13 17:52:04] orly : habibi: nah, I honestly don't care who wins, but it's unrealistic, in a true democracy where everyone had equal chance, do you think over 300 million people would vote for 2 candidates about 50-50%? [2016-11-13 17:53:06] NL007 : rapidtrades: trump family wants to rule usa [2016-11-13 17:53:20] NL007 : wants a trump kingdom [2016-11-13 17:53:22] NL007 : lol [2016-11-13 17:53:42] NL007 : he son will be his heir [2016-11-13 17:55:56] NL007 : Zec already back to 0.185 [2016-11-13 17:56:14] rapidtrades : There are rumors he's gonna put Ivanka in the white house too [2016-11-13 17:56:46] NL007 : rapidtrades: i wouldnt be suprised [2016-11-13 17:57:34] rapidtrades : well if he follows-trough on his 45% china tariff, that's not gonna be good for them [2016-11-13 17:57:45] rapidtrades : maybe CNY tumbles some more? [2016-11-13 17:58:53] NL007 : rapidtrades: China will react by dumping treasuries [2016-11-13 17:59:56] rapidtrades : doubtful, that would be shooting themselves in the foot [2016-11-13 18:02:16] zcashequalslambo : china tarrifs hurts both parties [2016-11-13 18:02:21] NL007 : rapidtrades: china isnt a small country they could bully [2016-11-13 18:02:50] zcashequalslambo : trump was saying that just to gain popularity among low class workers [2016-11-13 18:02:58] NL007 : zcashequalslambo: yes [2016-11-13 18:03:56] zcashequalslambo : i mean high tech industry which relies on china so much will be dead [2016-11-13 18:04:07] zcashequalslambo : or maybe they run awau to EU [2016-11-13 18:04:30] rapidtrades : zcashequalslambo: they don't hurt the US nearly as much [2016-11-13 18:04:41] rapidtrades : America's GDP is only 10% exports [2016-11-13 18:04:49] rapidtrades : China is 40-50% [2016-11-13 18:04:49] zcashequalslambo : yeah [2016-11-13 18:04:53] zcashequalslambo : you know [2016-11-13 18:05:03] zcashequalslambo : US has negative import export ratio [2016-11-13 18:05:07] zcashequalslambo : so they import a lot [2016-11-13 18:05:13] zcashequalslambo : tarrifs on chinese products [2016-11-13 18:05:39] zcashequalslambo : will destroy busienesses which produce and have suppliers in china [2016-11-13 18:05:50] zcashequalslambo : which is almost everything you are using right now [2016-11-13 18:06:06] zcashequalslambo : well [2016-11-13 18:06:13] NL007 : Obamacare is now a huge insurance industry and many companies are making billions through Obamacare thats why Trump came back on his words [2016-11-13 18:06:13] rapidtrades : yeah it's bad for both countries but China will siffer more no doubt [2016-11-13 18:06:22] zcashequalslambo : i dont think so [2016-11-13 18:06:31] zcashequalslambo : people will suffer most [2016-11-13 18:06:42] zcashequalslambo : they will have to pay extra on every american product [2016-11-13 18:06:57] rapidtrades : NL007: he's just an opportunist, i don't trust anything he says [2016-11-13 18:07:10] rapidtrades : it's doubtful if he's even on the right politically [2016-11-13 18:07:49] rapidtrades : We'll have to see what he actually does [2016-11-13 18:09:55] NL007 : Trump looked very nervous when he heard he won as he didnt want to win [2016-11-13 18:10:18] habibi : NL007: or he looked like a man that achieved everything he could in life [2016-11-13 18:10:45] hazir : or let the deep state OK him to office [2016-11-13 18:11:08] hazir : if e stops Leaking [2016-11-13 18:11:19] hazir : he* [2016-11-13 18:11:23] NL007 : habibi: i think he wasnt after a win. He was in it to make his trump brand more popular. [2016-11-13 18:31:54] hazir : it made his brand lose costumers.that's a fact. Now the left wing don't want to give him money [2016-11-13 18:36:35] gartan : does bitmex have a mobile app? [2016-11-13 18:36:59] hazir : i don't think so, but it's kinda mobile friendly [2016-11-13 18:37:17] hazir : just watch out not to butt trade!!! [2016-11-13 18:37:21] hazir : : ) [2016-11-13 18:45:53] rapidtrades : his memories will be interesting to read in about 20-30 years [2016-11-13 18:46:28] rapidtrades : 'I never expected to win, I said all those outrageous things to drop in the polls' [2016-11-13 18:46:41] rapidtrades : 'But they kept going up! I was stuck' [2016-11-13 18:46:46] rapidtrades : Trump 2036 [2016-11-13 19:08:42] Bacon futures trader : What's the best way to use stop loss management on bitmex? [2016-11-13 19:09:15] jung1 : up we go? [2016-11-13 19:09:53] habibi : Bacon futures trader: we had a lot of people here who said that liquidation is best stop loss, and they'r goneee [2016-11-13 19:11:35] BitMEX_Wally : Liquidation is a guaranteed stop loss, but guaranteed to have slippage equal to the maintenance margin [2016-11-13 19:12:51] Bacon futures trader : I'm asking because I had a stop market order put in place last night but somehow it didn't work. [2016-11-13 19:13:16] Bacon futures trader : So trying to figure out what's the best way to protect positions since I must have done something wrong. [2016-11-13 19:18:05] jung1 : monero seems like going back to 12 [2016-11-13 19:20:22] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: I see you had a stop order on XMR7D that was triggered and filled? [2016-11-13 19:22:20] Rado : jung1: it just seems that way :) [2016-11-13 19:22:48] jung1 : how is your bot rado? [2016-11-13 19:23:22] Bacon futures trader : @BitMEX_Wally thanks for checking. It was on an xbt position and it didn't trigger although price moved past the execute price. [2016-11-13 19:24:48] Rado : Pretty flat this days [2016-11-13 19:24:49] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: Ahh, I see an Stop order to sell XBTUSD if the mark price dropped below 683.50 [2016-11-13 19:25:00] Bacon futures trader : Yes, correct. [2016-11-13 19:25:38] Rado : LTC is next alt coin to short [2016-11-13 19:25:54] Rado : so easy to short these coins when they pop [2016-11-13 19:26:26] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: The mark price did not get that low [2016-11-13 19:26:29] BitMEX_Wally : It got to 684.50 [2016-11-13 19:27:09] BitMEX_Wally : However XBTUSD got down to 679.84 so if you had Price Trigger: Last Price set then it would have been triggered [2016-11-13 19:27:39] Rado : You should do the stop order based on last price [2016-11-13 19:27:53] Rado : i never use mark price after the changes [2016-11-13 19:29:26] Bacon futures trader : Ah, I didn't check the mark price history as I assumed it got below 680. @BitMEX_Wally Thanks for clarifying! [2016-11-13 19:47:26] Rado : Back to boring for now [2016-11-13 19:47:31] Rado : see ya all later [2016-11-13 19:48:17] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: was there ever a discussion about adding gold futures to BitMEX? [2016-11-13 19:50:11] habibi : Rado: noone wants it, plenty of place to trade it without big spread, next thing for bitmex is i guess golem futures [2016-11-13 19:51:08] Rado : Plenty of places to trade it with BTC? [2016-11-13 19:51:58] habibi : 1broker shitplefx and few others [2016-11-13 19:52:19] Rado : They charge insane rates [2016-11-13 19:52:39] habibi : Rado: so don't trade them :D [2016-11-13 19:52:42] Rado : 0.2% per day [2016-11-13 19:53:10] Rado : That's why BitMEX will kill their business if they wanted to [2016-11-13 19:54:25] habibi : Rado: market is nothing without proper market maker [2016-11-13 19:56:06] Rado : ZEC pump lasted 2 min [2016-11-13 20:08:09] chikator : hi how does zec futures work? [2016-11-13 20:08:29] wurstgelee : chikator: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview [2016-11-13 20:09:44] chikator : if i go short when the price was 50 xbt per zec16 and now its 0.07 xbt, i would get the same profit that i get in regular exchange or how? [2016-11-13 20:10:18] chikator : i read this manual about , but i cant understand [2016-11-13 20:10:37] wurstgelee : https://testnet.bitmex.com [2016-11-13 20:10:42] wurstgelee : try for free unbtil you do [2016-11-13 20:10:57] chikator : lets try) [2016-11-13 20:11:19] chikator : anyway cant understand those futures [2016-11-13 20:11:42] wurstgelee : you shouldnt trade them then [2016-11-13 20:14:35] chikator : but i want to understand [2016-11-13 20:15:20] chikator : why on test i cant put order [2016-11-13 20:15:49] chikator : first i see that order placed, then red notification that insuficent funds [2016-11-13 20:16:35] chikator : any help [2016-11-13 20:16:38] chikator : ? [2016-11-13 20:17:59] chikator : ok i chat there [2016-11-13 20:19:32] rapidtrades : get some test bitcoins [2016-11-13 20:20:57] chikator : if i would placed 1 sell contract of zec16dec at 50xbt and now its value is 0.07 xbt how much profits i would get?????? [2016-11-13 20:21:07] chikator : just answer please [2016-11-13 20:21:41] rapidtrades : 0 cos u will get smoked [2016-11-13 20:21:48] chikator : ok for simple count 1 xbt [2016-11-13 20:21:58] chikator : but why ??? [2016-11-13 20:22:07] chikator : explain this mehanics [2016-11-13 20:22:14] chikator : please [2016-11-13 20:22:54] rapidtrades : operation 'Sleeping Giant' will commence soon [2016-11-13 20:23:09] rapidtrades : trust me, u don't want to short [2016-11-13 20:23:28] wurstgelee : i rarely do but i agree with rapidtrades here [2016-11-13 20:23:29] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-13 20:24:03] wurstgelee : u can still do it ofc if u insist... [2016-11-13 20:24:29] chikator : but its working like on regular exchnge or how if i short from 50 xbt to 1 xbt for example i expect to see x50 profit or i am wrong? [2016-11-13 20:25:10] rapidtrades : price here never went above 10, they capped it [2016-11-13 20:26:37] rapidtrades : chikator: if u short 1 contract, the max u can get is 0.068 if it goes to 0 [2016-11-13 20:26:52] rapidtrades : that's 0.068 btc [2016-11-13 20:30:48] chikator : ok, example : i short from 10 xbt on expire date price is 0.1, i would get x10 profits? [2016-11-13 20:31:33] rapidtrades : no u would get 9.9 btc per contract [2016-11-13 20:31:37] chikator : but why price here different? on polo 0.18 [2016-11-13 20:31:41] rapidtrades : i dunno what 10x means [2016-11-13 20:31:53] wurstgelee : leverage i guess [2016-11-13 20:32:00] rapidtrades : chikator: becos ppl here are retarded and made a lot of money with the cap [2016-11-13 20:32:19] rapidtrades : ppl will keep doing what makes them money no matter how dumb [2016-11-13 20:33:11] chikator : 10x means multiplies by ten [2016-11-13 20:33:16] chikator : profits [2016-11-13 20:33:46] wurstgelee : leverage doesnt influence UPNL [2016-11-13 20:33:55] wurstgelee : amount of contracts does [2016-11-13 20:34:50] rapidtrades : dunno how he plans to use leverage when every ZEC rally was close to 100% [2016-11-13 20:36:50] chikator : but ican sell contract earlier, or i need to wait expiry [2016-11-13 20:37:05] chikator : till it expire [2016-11-13 20:38:19] rapidtrades : last one nov8, 0.25>0.55 [2016-11-13 20:38:34] rapidtrades : 0.58 [2016-11-13 20:39:18] rapidtrades : chikator: u can sell it earlier [2016-11-13 20:39:29] rapidtrades : or buy it if ur short [2016-11-13 20:41:57] chikator : any way now its too late for some moves, i just remember when it was 10-12 xbt per contract, i wanted to short, but i didnt have funds to buy 1 contract( last stop was 1 btc for short [2016-11-13 20:42:22] rapidtrades : it was never above 10 m8 [2016-11-13 20:42:47] rapidtrades : they capped it, now cap is moved to 100 [2016-11-13 20:44:40] chikator : aaa i think i get it you couldnt buy more than on 10xbt, know its 100 xbt? right? [2016-11-13 20:44:56] chikator : now [2016-11-13 21:04:30] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Osc7tB12/ [2016-11-13 21:05:13] aethlios : consolidation until 25 dec. possible, then an 100% move possible [2016-11-13 21:07:47] NL007 : 10 was cap [2016-11-13 21:19:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2493 @ 702.02 [2016-11-13 21:20:34] TheDrunkenGambler : Is LISK still available to trade on Bitmex? [2016-11-13 21:31:28] aethlios : TheDrunkenGambler: no avail. [2016-11-13 22:24:34] Rado : aethlios: 100%? [2016-11-13 22:24:39] Rado : as in $1400 [2016-11-13 22:24:50] miramm1115 : oh wow, I got fills in $680 area, didn't know bitcoin dropped that much here [2016-11-13 22:54:25] jung1 : you guys are long on btc now? [2016-11-13 22:55:35] iefken : i am [2016-11-13 23:09:59] anonymous789 : i'm still short, daily looks like there needs to be further retracement, to around 660-670 area i reckon [2016-11-13 23:10:53] anonymous789 : if 704-706 area is rejected, that will make a lower high which means more downside [2016-11-13 23:11:18] anonymous789 : on the hourly that is [2016-11-13 23:26:43] jung1 : dump on monero [2016-11-13 23:50:27] rapidtrades : guys u know u can talk even though nothing is moving [2016-11-13 23:50:31] rapidtrades : it's allowed [2016-11-13 23:50:52] kradiav : sssh, you'll scare ZEC and it might die for good :P [2016-11-13 23:52:41] jung1 : yeah its funny here [2016-11-13 23:53:03] jung1 : if there is more users, less people talk on trollbox [2016-11-13 23:54:14] rapidtrades : jung1: any shitcoins ur invested in right now? [2016-11-13 23:55:11] jung1 : iconomy, vdice and golem [2016-11-13 23:55:31] rapidtrades : golem...nice [2016-11-13 23:55:45] rapidtrades : u should pick up some cheap ZEC [2016-11-13 23:55:48] jung1 : poland strong [2016-11-13 23:56:09] jung1 : yeah Im thinking of it [2016-11-13 23:56:22] jung1 : have some buy orders at 0.05 [2016-11-13 23:56:57] rapidtrades : cmon that's greedy [2016-11-13 23:57:06] rapidtrades : market buy some...fomo [2016-11-13 23:57:56] jung1 : but possible [2016-11-13 23:58:22] rapidtrades : dam i should apples more often, they freshen u up [2016-11-13 23:59:03] rapidtrades : jung1: so what's the best of those 3 coins? and why? [2016-11-13 23:59:42] jung1 : iconomy is kind of hedge fund that will payout dividents [2016-11-13 23:59:54] rapidtrades : dam can i open one? [2016-11-14 00:00:29] rapidtrades : any website? googling that shit is not giving me funds [2016-11-14 00:00:33] jung1 : vdice are shares of vdice ethereum casino [2016-11-14 00:00:49] jung1 : and golem is kind of uber for computing power [2016-11-14 00:01:03] rapidtrades : nah i like the fund, tell me more [2016-11-14 00:01:26] jung1 : https://www.iconomi.net/ [2016-11-14 00:02:55] jung1 : IM working on kind of hedge fund also with trading bot and investing in some ico projects [2016-11-14 00:03:40] rapidtrades : so this is like a platform for hedge funds? [2016-11-14 00:04:22] rapidtrades : cos website only says buy ether [2016-11-14 00:04:40] rapidtrades : LOOKS LIKE A SPAMSITE FOR SPAMCOIN [2016-11-14 00:07:41] jung1 : it is kind of hedge fund [2016-11-14 00:08:32] rapidtrades : explain [2016-11-14 00:09:34] jung1 : https://www.kraken.com/charts you can buy it on kraken [2016-11-14 00:09:47] jung1 : and you will be shareholder of this platform [2016-11-14 00:09:54] rapidtrades : not gonna buy what i don't understand [2016-11-14 00:10:55] jung1 : https://ico.iconomi.net/faq [2016-11-14 00:11:18] jung1 : ICONOMI INVESTMENT FUNDS will be crypto investment funds developed and managed by the ICONOMI team of experts. Starting with one of each fundamental type, ICONOMI will offer the ICONOMI.INDEX and ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE investment funds (for details please see the Whitepaper on App Token Funds). After the ICONOMI OPEN FUND MANAGEMENT (OFM) PLATFORM has been developed, ICONOMI investment funds will be migrated to the OFM platform, where they will coexist with investment funds of other investment managers. [2016-11-14 00:13:17] rapidtrades : ok cool [2016-11-14 00:13:18] habibi : jung1: stop shilling shit [2016-11-14 00:13:30] jung1 : nope [2016-11-14 00:13:32] rapidtrades : habibi: i asked him u retard [2016-11-14 00:13:53] habibi : rapidtrades: in general asshole [2016-11-14 00:14:13] jung1 : habibi: cant help you with this [2016-11-14 00:14:15] rapidtrades : habibi: I generaled ur mum last night and she LOVED it [2016-11-14 00:14:36] habibi : rapidtrades: how nice of u [2016-11-14 00:15:13] rapidtrades : hey 50 bucks is 50 bucks amirite? [2016-11-14 00:16:36] laisee : surge pricing in action [2016-11-14 00:20:22] rapidtrades : hey 0.4321 ZEC is 0.4321 ZEC [2016-11-14 00:20:45] jung1 : Im gonna put some stop loss and leave my long [2016-11-14 00:21:15] jung1 : on btc [2016-11-14 00:21:45] rapidtrades : good idea [2016-11-14 00:24:29] Dtrade16 : Guys do you recommend renting any arbitrage bots?