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[2016-11-13 05:27:28] zanza : anyone have suggestion for good WordPress theme ?
[2016-11-13 05:39:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6980 @ 692.05
[2016-11-13 05:46:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 691.41
[2016-11-13 05:56:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2410 @ 699.68
[2016-11-13 05:56:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1000 @ 699.89
[2016-11-13 05:59:00] javierstone : china is dropping like fly
[2016-11-13 06:06:45] zanza : hello $680's
[2016-11-13 06:15:49] Apocalyptic : zanza: starting a trading advice blog, are we ?
[2016-11-13 06:16:07] zanza : unrelated :) to cryptos
[2016-11-13 06:16:33] zanza : cryptos are flooded already :)
[2016-11-13 06:21:18] zanza : the reverse Trump dump
[2016-11-13 06:24:14] Apocalyptic : has a nice ring to it
[2016-11-13 06:25:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1520 @ 690.35
[2016-11-13 06:25:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 18 @ 0.011557
[2016-11-13 06:26:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 690.23
[2016-11-13 06:27:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 181 @ 689.86
[2016-11-13 06:28:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4900 @ 689.67
[2016-11-13 07:56:14] QuantFocus : well, there's that selloff i've been waiting for
[2016-11-13 08:32:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 24816 @ 692.52 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-13 08:43:02] l3f : haha wtf
[2016-11-13 08:43:03] l3f : liquidated short
[2016-11-13 08:43:13] l3f : did he short the bottom
[2016-11-13 09:04:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.011146
[2016-11-13 09:57:30] RoftheN : what happened to BTC lol
[2016-11-13 10:03:19] RoftheN : That was scary
[2016-11-13 10:04:54] joshuaf15 : ?
[2016-11-13 11:08:17] Apocalyptic : l3f: Some people always short the bottom with x100 leverage
[2016-11-13 11:27:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 9 @ 0.010581
[2016-11-13 12:35:27] rapidtrades : WTF REKTED
[2016-11-13 12:38:54] habibi : rapidtrades: liquidated?
[2016-11-13 12:39:35] javierstone : ya xmr just ate teh shit wtf
[2016-11-13 12:53:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 3215 @ 0.003244
[2016-11-13 12:53:59] rapidtrades : Make Zcash great Again!
[2016-11-13 12:54:11] rapidtrades : MZGA
[2016-11-13 13:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.010846
[2016-11-13 13:28:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 690.42
[2016-11-13 13:39:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 689.61
[2016-11-13 13:40:10] mjones : big btc dump on okcoin
[2016-11-13 13:40:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 689.50
[2016-11-13 13:40:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 688.20
[2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 686.72
[2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3403 @ 687.16
[2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14649 @ 686.99
[2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 700 @ 687.41
[2016-11-13 13:40:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 485716 @ 687.01 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-13 13:40:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14400 @ 686.44
[2016-11-13 13:40:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 686.54
[2016-11-13 13:41:02] mjones : 485716 ouch
[2016-11-13 13:41:35] Kalman : boo: 14:40 - REKT: Liquidated long on XBTUSD: Sell 485716 @ 687.01 REKTosaurus ? ? ?
[2016-11-13 13:42:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 686.20
[2016-11-13 14:03:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 685.65
[2016-11-13 14:22:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 5000 @ 695.84
[2016-11-13 14:45:32] y1uy : lol
[2016-11-13 14:45:34] y1uy : rektening
[2016-11-13 14:46:24] y1uy : btc will bounce like my girlfriends tits
[2016-11-13 14:46:52] y1uy : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ws4DRFkS/
[2016-11-13 14:52:53] JamesPolo : y1uy: sure
[2016-11-13 14:56:21] RoftheN : Wow
[2016-11-13 15:08:38] JamesPolo : Xbt16 be
[2016-11-13 15:08:43] JamesPolo : below 700
[2016-11-13 15:20:44] rapidtrades : guys noooooo
[2016-11-13 15:21:01] Ieperen : ?
[2016-11-13 15:21:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.014950
[2016-11-13 15:29:00] mbaril : going up ?
[2016-11-13 15:29:29] rapidtrades : bounce woooo
[2016-11-13 15:29:33] rapidtrades : go shitcoin!
[2016-11-13 15:29:51] mbaril : ahahah
[2016-11-13 15:30:34] y1uy : :)
[2016-11-13 15:31:59] JamesPolo : I quit
[2016-11-13 15:32:08] JamesPolo : stupid market
[2016-11-13 15:41:56] mbaril : rollercoaster
[2016-11-13 15:42:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 240 @ 694.30
[2016-11-13 15:43:32] rapidtrades : wow so much bounce!
[2016-11-13 15:44:05] y1uy : told you guys
[2016-11-13 15:44:14] y1uy : it will rebounce
[2016-11-13 15:44:17] y1uy : like my girls tits
[2016-11-13 15:44:58] Bacon futures trader : Nice bounce buy the dip from now
[2016-11-13 15:45:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 80 @ 0.010713
[2016-11-13 15:46:01] kradiav : all in on XMR... best time to buy
[2016-11-13 15:46:31] y1uy : kradiav: why ?
[2016-11-13 15:46:47] kradiav : dip + fundamentals
[2016-11-13 15:48:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 4000 @ 710.73
[2016-11-13 15:49:05] janos666 : best time to buy was 0.007, this is the place to sell if you did (and short if it spikes up hard)
[2016-11-13 15:50:11] kradiav : XMR holds strong
[2016-11-13 16:00:02] Rado : pretty good bounce on BTC
[2016-11-13 16:03:08] j8 : pretty damn bullish if that's a bottom for now
[2016-11-13 16:03:34] Rado : bounced at the same area as last time
[2016-11-13 16:03:47] Rado : also 680s was the the resistance before the breakout
[2016-11-13 16:04:44] j8 : yeah nice horizontal resistance at 4670 cny
[2016-11-13 16:06:38] Rado : I know ZEC is going to 0.01, but not shorting it
[2016-11-13 16:06:55] Rado : not sure why I skip on thase easy trades
[2016-11-13 16:07:37] Bacon futures trader : ZEC is a liquidity trap
[2016-11-13 16:07:42] arbitrage001 : risk/reward not worth it
[2016-11-13 16:07:55] j8 : 0.01.. that's like $7, pretty lowball for dec 30. given the risk
[2016-11-13 16:08:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.010445
[2016-11-13 16:08:19] Bacon futures trader : ZEC has no intrinsic value imo
[2016-11-13 16:08:25] arbitrage001 : $7 is below the earlier investor price
[2016-11-13 16:08:35] arbitrage001 : btc has intrinsic value?
[2016-11-13 16:08:45] Bacon futures trader : No, but it's different
[2016-11-13 16:09:13] Bacon futures trader : Cba to discuss lol
[2016-11-13 16:10:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJZ16`: Buy 3000 @ 78037
[2016-11-13 16:11:49] j8 : XBJ is pretty wild.. sometimes the MM whipsaws like $10
[2016-11-13 16:14:04] Rado : arbitrage001: what is the investors price?
[2016-11-13 16:14:40] Rado : j8: I switched to XBTZ16 as soon as it came out
[2016-11-13 16:14:45] Rado : much better
[2016-11-13 16:15:10] j8 : yeah, liquidity's pretty good there. i only trade XBJ for the arbs.
[2016-11-13 16:15:44] Rado : I wish BitMEX will list next quarterly earlier
[2016-11-13 16:16:02] Rado : doesn't make sense to wait until Dec 30
[2016-11-13 16:16:48] j8 : yeah they usually do it a bit before.
[2016-11-13 16:16:50] arbitrage001 : Rado: someone mentioned 15 dollars
[2016-11-13 16:17:11] Rado : arbitrage001: this doesn't make sense
[2016-11-13 16:17:20] arbitrage001 : what doesn't ?
[2016-11-13 16:17:48] sleger : Rado: be careful with XBJ, there was a glitch a few weeks ago and people got liquidated at 50000 or around that
[2016-11-13 16:17:51] j8 : the 15 dollar price comes from dividing the total investment by the number of coins the investors get
[2016-11-13 16:18:10] Rado : sleger: I don't trade it anymore
[2016-11-13 16:18:49] Rado : j8: but is that only for current distribution
[2016-11-13 16:18:55] Rado : they will get more in th efuture
[2016-11-13 16:19:07] j8 : it's for the total amount after 4 years
[2016-11-13 16:19:16] Rado : really
[2016-11-13 16:19:21] arbitrage001 : looks like bull going to lose the bet anyway
[2016-11-13 16:19:22] Rado : bad investment then
[2016-11-13 16:19:23] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-13 16:19:45] j8 : i think so. but they also got equity in the zcash company, the $15 price would value that equity at zero
[2016-11-13 16:19:57] Rado : right
[2016-11-13 16:20:18] j8 : it's possible that zcash fails and the company succeeds at something else, though i doubt it
[2016-11-13 16:21:40] arbitrage001 : having a sillicon valley company developing a coin got to mean something
[2016-11-13 16:22:47] rapidtrades : apparently it means 0.067 to the idiots here
[2016-11-13 16:23:15] Tetsuo : WOW, chickun
[2016-11-13 16:23:17] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: odd of bull losing is high
[2016-11-13 16:23:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 990 @ 697.04
[2016-11-13 16:23:36] arbitrage001 : i am not so happy holding 45 zec contract
[2016-11-13 16:23:50] arbitrage001 : was a long shot anyway
[2016-11-13 16:23:51] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-13 16:24:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4000 @ 698.47
[2016-11-13 16:24:28] Bacon futures trader : bitcoin short liquidations incoming
[2016-11-13 16:24:36] Bacon futures trader : lol one second too late
[2016-11-13 16:25:10] j8 : squeeze time?
[2016-11-13 16:25:17] Rado : wow
[2016-11-13 16:25:18] Rado : cool
[2016-11-13 16:25:59] Rado : I got stopped out in profit on my XBTZ16 at 725
[2016-11-13 16:26:05] rapidtrades : bitcoin is saved
[2016-11-13 16:26:06] Rado : got back in at 705
[2016-11-13 16:26:12] Rado : pretty cool
[2016-11-13 16:26:29] Rado : rapidtrades: what's going on man
[2016-11-13 16:26:44] arbitrage001 : will keep sucking on btc funding
[2016-11-13 16:26:54] rapidtrades : nm living the thug live @Rado
[2016-11-13 16:27:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.003122
[2016-11-13 16:27:45] Rado : I shorted XMR at 0.01134, but was to fast to close it at 0.01080
[2016-11-13 16:27:57] Rado : fear is the worse enemy of trading
[2016-11-13 16:28:25] arbitrage001 : Rado: how big is your position relative to your balance
[2016-11-13 16:28:35] j8 : fear is the mind-killer
[2016-11-13 16:28:44] arbitrage001 : fear is coorelated to leverage you used here
[2016-11-13 16:28:56] Rado : I have two XBT position now and my lev says 1.31x
[2016-11-13 16:29:29] arbitrage001 : if you only use less than 20% of your capital on each new position
[2016-11-13 16:29:34] arbitrage001 : you will never fear
[2016-11-13 16:29:35] rapidtrades : you should fear greed more then u fear fear
[2016-11-13 16:29:47] Rado : arbitrage001: I use lest than 5%
[2016-11-13 16:29:58] arbitrage001 : then you have nothing to fear
[2016-11-13 16:30:25] rapidtrades : im below 5% too and i still fear :)
[2016-11-13 16:30:49] Rado : rapidtrades: of course
[2016-11-13 16:30:59] Rado : with lev 5% can still wipe you out
[2016-11-13 16:31:09] Rado : I still have liq price even if it's far
[2016-11-13 16:31:20] Rado : I can't sleep without a stop
[2016-11-13 16:32:41] Rado : ETH was a nice short at 0.015
[2016-11-13 16:33:13] arbitrage001 : still a nice short in my opinion
[2016-11-13 16:33:25] arbitrage001 : till market cap drop by half
[2016-11-13 16:34:16] rapidtrades : ppl shorting zcash at 0.07 are the same ppl that wouldve shorted btc at 3 after it fell from 30
[2016-11-13 16:34:37] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: everyone is gambling
[2016-11-13 16:35:12] arbitrage001 : beside, once the contract expire, who know what will happen to price
[2016-11-13 16:35:26] arbitrage001 : unless you plan to convert your long position
[2016-11-13 16:35:34] arbitrage001 : odd of winning is rather small now
[2016-11-13 16:36:10] rapidtrades : at 0.07 why not convert
[2016-11-13 16:36:30] arbitrage001 : have to wait till premium is gone
[2016-11-13 16:36:36] arbitrage001 : i mean discount
[2016-11-13 16:37:53] rapidtrades : only costs 0.1 to exchange now
[2016-11-13 16:38:37] arbitrage001 : a whopping 60%
[2016-11-13 16:38:44] RoftheN : Damn I missed the bottom
[2016-11-13 16:39:48] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: ppl are retarded here, they used any polo rally to pile on
[2016-11-13 16:39:56] Rado : sold half of my XBTUSD at 699
[2016-11-13 16:40:53] wurstgelee : tempted to sell
[2016-11-13 16:40:55] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: if you think traders here are retarded, take advantage of it
[2016-11-13 16:40:57] wurstgelee : not sure yet
[2016-11-13 16:41:11] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: sell what? zcash?
[2016-11-13 16:41:21] wurstgelee : no, xbtusd
[2016-11-13 16:41:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-13 16:42:26] wurstgelee : half seemed reasonable. ;)
[2016-11-13 16:46:40] CaptainDean : been busy this weekend missed a lot of action
[2016-11-13 16:46:47] j8 : near the bottom there was a bid for 35k contracts on okc quarterly. right before we went up
[2016-11-13 16:47:52] wurstgelee : polo having fun with zec
[2016-11-13 16:47:57] wurstgelee : .184
[2016-11-13 16:48:00] wurstgelee : .185
[2016-11-13 16:48:00] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: how so?
[2016-11-13 16:48:02] Rado : j8: signal to get in maybe :-)
[2016-11-13 16:48:07] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: pumping
[2016-11-13 16:48:31] wurstgelee : well, its not a pump yet ofc..but interesting.
[2016-11-13 16:48:47] wurstgelee : .189
[2016-11-13 16:48:48] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: i do hope there is another fomo
[2016-11-13 16:48:54] arbitrage001 : before dec 30
[2016-11-13 16:49:03] arbitrage001 : who know how high it will go this time
[2016-11-13 16:49:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-13 16:49:17] wurstgelee : looks good so far
[2016-11-13 16:49:17] wurstgelee : 192
[2016-11-13 16:49:24] arbitrage001 : nice hah
[2016-11-13 16:50:42] Rado : 150 bid here
[2016-11-13 16:51:27] wurstgelee : 200 ;)
[2016-11-13 16:51:42] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: are you the one pumping?
[2016-11-13 16:51:43] wurstgelee : aaaand back to hidden ;)
[2016-11-13 16:51:46] wurstgelee : no
[2016-11-13 16:51:58] rapidtrades : im pumping
[2016-11-13 16:52:06] wurstgelee : 50 of those were mine tho ;)
[2016-11-13 16:52:09] Rado : bought some
[2016-11-13 16:52:15] wurstgelee : 198
[2016-11-13 16:52:22] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-13 16:55:13] rapidtrades : everyone is in on the ZECparty
[2016-11-13 16:55:29] wurstgelee : never left tbh ;)
[2016-11-13 16:55:31] rapidtrades : mode of transportation = train
[2016-11-13 16:55:33] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: just the fearless gamblers
[2016-11-13 16:55:39] rapidtrades : destination = moon
[2016-11-13 16:59:16] wurstgelee : not bad at least
[2016-11-13 16:59:26] wurstgelee : .2 out of nothing
[2016-11-13 16:59:30] wurstgelee : promising for more to come
[2016-11-13 16:59:31] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-13 17:00:34] Rado : futures here are not buying the pump yet
[2016-11-13 17:01:02] wurstgelee : i am not either ;)
[2016-11-13 17:01:16] arbitrage001 : dont think there is major MM here touch zcash
[2016-11-13 17:01:25] QuantFocus : this rally is false hope
[2016-11-13 17:02:01] wurstgelee : probably a polo whale splashing.
[2016-11-13 17:02:11] wurstgelee : still interesting =)
[2016-11-13 17:14:44] Rado : ZEC will bottom at some point
[2016-11-13 17:14:49] Rado : I have no idea where :-)
[2016-11-13 17:16:12] wurstgelee : hehe, same
[2016-11-13 17:16:21] wurstgelee : really no idea
[2016-11-13 17:16:42] arbitrage001 : the open interest is quite high
[2016-11-13 17:17:07] wurstgelee : few gamblers hold a lot of longs i guess
[2016-11-13 17:17:26] arbitrage001 : and majority shorters are small fish?
[2016-11-13 17:17:47] wurstgelee : maybe not majority but more than longs
[2016-11-13 17:18:00] wurstgelee : just a wild guess based on my gutt
[2016-11-13 17:18:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-13 17:19:59] rapidtrades : look at that retard, selling at 0.068 with polo rallying above 0.20
[2016-11-13 17:21:35] NL007 : Edward Snowden: Anonymous ‘Zcash’ Could Solve Bitcoin Surveillance Risks
[2016-11-13 17:21:49] wurstgelee : NL007: lol?
[2016-11-13 17:21:53] wurstgelee : source?
[2016-11-13 17:22:08] NL007 : https://news.bitcoin.com/snowden-zcash-bitcoin-risks/
[2016-11-13 17:22:16] arbitrage001 : very old news
[2016-11-13 17:22:21] arbitrage001 : dated june, dude
[2016-11-13 17:22:24] wurstgelee : ah lol
[2016-11-13 17:22:25] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-13 17:22:27] wurstgelee : that one
[2016-11-13 17:22:46] rapidtrades : i hate snowden
[2016-11-13 17:22:51] rapidtrades : russian bitch
[2016-11-13 17:25:53] NL007 : People now using snowden to pump zec
[2016-11-13 17:26:04] NL007 : outfated quotes
[2016-11-13 17:26:10] NL007 : outdated
[2016-11-13 17:26:30] NL007 : Polo going bezerk
[2016-11-13 17:26:35] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-13 17:26:52] arbitrage001 : NL007: how big is your short position
[2016-11-13 17:27:04] rapidtrades : 700 contracts no doubt
[2016-11-13 17:27:10] rapidtrades : about to get RektEd
[2016-11-13 17:27:38] NL007 : i got rekt once with zec
[2016-11-13 17:27:57] NL007 : :)
[2016-11-13 17:29:00] rapidtrades : soon, twice
[2016-11-13 17:29:22] NL007 : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-13 17:33:19] rapidtrades : has Trump said anything about CHYNA since winning?
[2016-11-13 17:33:32] rapidtrades : i see he's already back-tracking on Obamacare
[2016-11-13 17:35:47] rapidtrades : http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/10/colleges-cancelled-exams-for-students-tr
[2016-11-13 17:35:53] rapidtrades : ^^^ lol more liberal tears
[2016-11-13 17:35:58] rapidtrades : the floor doesn't end
[2016-11-13 17:36:45] NL007 : rapidtrades: i think the rift in the USA will become huge
[2016-11-13 17:36:56] NL007 : it will not end well
[2016-11-13 17:37:26] NL007 : never seen this happen after an election in the US
[2016-11-13 17:37:45] rapidtrades : it always happens when the right wins
[2016-11-13 17:37:55] rapidtrades : cue talk of hitler etc
[2016-11-13 17:38:24] rapidtrades : lefties are poor losers
[2016-11-13 17:38:56] NL007 : rapidtrades: didnt happen with bush
[2016-11-13 17:39:09] NL007 : or reagan
[2016-11-13 17:39:32] j8 : can you imagine how much the right would have bitched if they won the popular vote and lost the election?
[2016-11-13 17:39:46] NL007 : This is totally different
[2016-11-13 17:40:43] rapidtrades : j8: those were the rules of the game tho...if it was popular vote then Reps wouldn't spent more money/time in California for example
[2016-11-13 17:40:49] rapidtrades : it was only 200k difference
[2016-11-13 17:41:03] rapidtrades : i meant would've spent
[2016-11-13 17:41:33] j8 : rapidtrades: it's half a million and still counting, projected to be as much as 2 million
[2016-11-13 17:41:46] rapidtrades : doubtful
[2016-11-13 17:42:07] j8 : of course its the rules but they were already preparing the "rigged system" talk
[2016-11-13 17:42:12] NL007 : rapidtrades: 2 million difference
[2016-11-13 17:42:57] rapidtrades : like i said, Reps and Dems didn't even bother to hold rallies in states they thought were 'safe'
[2016-11-13 17:43:11] rapidtrades : so it's not really a good excuse for a tantrum imo
[2016-11-13 17:44:15] NL007 : trump was against Electoral College vote because it was undemocratic....lol
[2016-11-13 17:44:41] NL007 : now he won because of it
[2016-11-13 17:44:43] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-13 17:44:52] orly : they should both shut up and be happy with their fcked up system that supports their 2party dominance forever
[2016-11-13 17:45:35] orly : it's not democratic at all, but they would both lose if they made it more so
[2016-11-13 17:45:48] NL007 : orly: it is
[2016-11-13 17:46:34] rapidtrades : orly: it' not really that different from other countries with majority parliamentary systems
[2016-11-13 17:46:50] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-13 17:47:06] j8 : the same thing happens in canada. well its a bit different but same idea
[2016-11-13 17:47:06] rapidtrades : just u have states instead of electoral units
[2016-11-13 17:47:19] wurstgelee : parties with less than 5% pop votes dont make it into the bundestag for example.
[2016-11-13 17:47:29] NL007 : wurstgelee: true
[2016-11-13 17:47:58] rapidtrades : libertarians only got <4% this time
[2016-11-13 17:48:14] rapidtrades : if they couldn't break 5% now, hard to see when
[2016-11-13 17:48:15] orly : just because most counties do it, doesn't mean it's good
[2016-11-13 17:48:27] orly : most countries are not democratic :)
[2016-11-13 17:49:08] j8 : you would think in a democracy every vote would count equally. but they don't
[2016-11-13 17:49:33] orly : no, first-past-the-post is already fcked up
[2016-11-13 17:49:42] arbitrage001 : wouldnt assume a democratic system is better than what we have
[2016-11-13 17:49:45] orly : add this electoral system to that
[2016-11-13 17:49:53] orly : and noone can win but one of the two estabilished parties
[2016-11-13 17:49:54] NL007 : popular vote should be implemented
[2016-11-13 17:49:56] arbitrage001 : ruled by the mob vs ruled by the few
[2016-11-13 17:50:03] rapidtrades : President-elect Donald Trump says he will deport or jail as many as three million illegal migrants
[2016-11-13 17:50:08] rapidtrades : well that's not good
[2016-11-13 17:50:14] NL007 : the guy with most votes wins
[2016-11-13 17:50:31] arbitrage001 : there are way more than 3 miliions illdgal migrants
[2016-11-13 17:50:41] rapidtrades : he's also keeping 'parts of obamacare'
[2016-11-13 17:50:42] j8 : during the campaign they were saying 30 million
[2016-11-13 17:50:43] NL007 : The wall will be build
[2016-11-13 17:50:45] habibi : tldr; we love democracy as long as our candidate is winning
[2016-11-13 17:51:04] arbitrage001 : is he going to stop h1b visa?
[2016-11-13 17:51:06] wurstgelee : part of the wall can be a fence....
[2016-11-13 17:51:08] wurstgelee : he said earlier
[2016-11-13 17:51:10] arbitrage001 : student visa
[2016-11-13 17:51:10] wurstgelee : ;
[2016-11-13 17:51:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-13 17:51:33] rapidtrades : Trump has named three of his children and his son-in-law to the transition team's executive committee
[2016-11-13 17:51:34] NL007 : j8: yes but he wants immediately up to 3 million deported. First start.
[2016-11-13 17:51:39] rapidtrades : ^ lol what a twat
[2016-11-13 17:51:44] NL007 : More will follow
[2016-11-13 17:52:04] orly : habibi: nah, I honestly don't care who wins, but it's unrealistic, in a true democracy where everyone had equal chance, do you think over 300 million people would vote for 2 candidates about 50-50%?
[2016-11-13 17:53:06] NL007 : rapidtrades: trump family wants to rule usa
[2016-11-13 17:53:20] NL007 : wants a trump kingdom
[2016-11-13 17:53:22] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-13 17:53:42] NL007 : he son will be his heir
[2016-11-13 17:55:56] NL007 : Zec already back to 0.185
[2016-11-13 17:56:14] rapidtrades : There are rumors he's gonna put Ivanka in the white house too
[2016-11-13 17:56:46] NL007 : rapidtrades: i wouldnt be suprised
[2016-11-13 17:57:34] rapidtrades : well if he follows-trough on his 45% china tariff, that's not gonna be good for them
[2016-11-13 17:57:45] rapidtrades : maybe CNY tumbles some more?
[2016-11-13 17:58:53] NL007 : rapidtrades: China will react by dumping treasuries
[2016-11-13 17:59:56] rapidtrades : doubtful, that would be shooting themselves in the foot
[2016-11-13 18:02:16] zcashequalslambo : china tarrifs hurts both parties
[2016-11-13 18:02:21] NL007 : rapidtrades: china isnt a small country they could bully
[2016-11-13 18:02:50] zcashequalslambo : trump was saying that just to gain popularity among low class workers
[2016-11-13 18:02:58] NL007 : zcashequalslambo: yes
[2016-11-13 18:03:56] zcashequalslambo : i mean high tech industry which relies on china so much will be dead
[2016-11-13 18:04:07] zcashequalslambo : or maybe they run awau to EU
[2016-11-13 18:04:30] rapidtrades : zcashequalslambo: they don't hurt the US nearly as much
[2016-11-13 18:04:41] rapidtrades : America's GDP is only 10% exports
[2016-11-13 18:04:49] rapidtrades : China is 40-50%
[2016-11-13 18:04:49] zcashequalslambo : yeah
[2016-11-13 18:04:53] zcashequalslambo : you know
[2016-11-13 18:05:03] zcashequalslambo : US has negative import export ratio
[2016-11-13 18:05:07] zcashequalslambo : so they import a lot
[2016-11-13 18:05:13] zcashequalslambo : tarrifs on chinese products
[2016-11-13 18:05:39] zcashequalslambo : will destroy busienesses which produce and have suppliers in china
[2016-11-13 18:05:50] zcashequalslambo : which is almost everything you are using right now
[2016-11-13 18:06:06] zcashequalslambo : well
[2016-11-13 18:06:13] NL007 : Obamacare is now a huge insurance industry and many companies are making billions through Obamacare thats why Trump came back on his words
[2016-11-13 18:06:13] rapidtrades : yeah it's bad for both countries but China will siffer more no doubt
[2016-11-13 18:06:22] zcashequalslambo : i dont think so
[2016-11-13 18:06:31] zcashequalslambo : people will suffer most
[2016-11-13 18:06:42] zcashequalslambo : they will have to pay extra on every american product
[2016-11-13 18:06:57] rapidtrades : NL007: he's just an opportunist, i don't trust anything he says
[2016-11-13 18:07:10] rapidtrades : it's doubtful if he's even on the right politically
[2016-11-13 18:07:49] rapidtrades : We'll have to see what he actually does
[2016-11-13 18:09:55] NL007 : Trump looked very nervous when he heard he won as he didnt want to win
[2016-11-13 18:10:18] habibi : NL007: or he looked like a man that achieved everything he could in life
[2016-11-13 18:10:45] hazir : or let the deep state OK him to office
[2016-11-13 18:11:08] hazir : if e stops Leaking
[2016-11-13 18:11:19] hazir : he*
[2016-11-13 18:11:23] NL007 : habibi: i think he wasnt after a win. He was in it to make his trump brand more popular.
[2016-11-13 18:31:54] hazir : it made his brand lose costumers.that's a fact. Now the left wing don't want to give him money
[2016-11-13 18:36:35] gartan : does bitmex have a mobile app?
[2016-11-13 18:36:59] hazir : i don't think so, but it's kinda mobile friendly
[2016-11-13 18:37:17] hazir : just watch out not to butt trade!!!
[2016-11-13 18:37:21] hazir : : )
[2016-11-13 18:45:53] rapidtrades : his memories will be interesting to read in about 20-30 years
[2016-11-13 18:46:28] rapidtrades : 'I never expected to win, I said all those outrageous things to drop in the polls'
[2016-11-13 18:46:41] rapidtrades : 'But they kept going up! I was stuck'
[2016-11-13 18:46:46] rapidtrades : Trump 2036
[2016-11-13 19:08:42] Bacon futures trader : What's the best way to use stop loss management on bitmex?
[2016-11-13 19:09:15] jung1 : up we go?
[2016-11-13 19:09:53] habibi : Bacon futures trader: we had a lot of people here who said that liquidation is best stop loss, and they'r goneee
[2016-11-13 19:11:35] BitMEX_Wally : Liquidation is a guaranteed stop loss, but guaranteed to have slippage equal to the maintenance margin
[2016-11-13 19:12:51] Bacon futures trader : I'm asking because I had a stop market order put in place last night but somehow it didn't work.
[2016-11-13 19:13:16] Bacon futures trader : So trying to figure out what's the best way to protect positions since I must have done something wrong.
[2016-11-13 19:18:05] jung1 : monero seems like going back to 12
[2016-11-13 19:20:22] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: I see you had a stop order on XMR7D that was triggered and filled?
[2016-11-13 19:22:20] Rado : jung1: it just seems that way :)
[2016-11-13 19:22:48] jung1 : how is your bot rado?
[2016-11-13 19:23:22] Bacon futures trader : @BitMEX_Wally thanks for checking. It was on an xbt position and it didn't trigger although price moved past the execute price.
[2016-11-13 19:24:48] Rado : Pretty flat this days
[2016-11-13 19:24:49] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: Ahh, I see an Stop order to sell XBTUSD if the mark price dropped below 683.50
[2016-11-13 19:25:00] Bacon futures trader : Yes, correct.
[2016-11-13 19:25:38] Rado : LTC is next alt coin to short
[2016-11-13 19:25:54] Rado : so easy to short these coins when they pop
[2016-11-13 19:26:26] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: The mark price did not get that low
[2016-11-13 19:26:29] BitMEX_Wally : It got to 684.50
[2016-11-13 19:27:09] BitMEX_Wally : However XBTUSD got down to 679.84 so if you had Price Trigger: Last Price set then it would have been triggered
[2016-11-13 19:27:39] Rado : You should do the stop order based on last price
[2016-11-13 19:27:53] Rado : i never use mark price after the changes
[2016-11-13 19:29:26] Bacon futures trader : Ah, I didn't check the mark price history as I assumed it got below 680. @BitMEX_Wally Thanks for clarifying!
[2016-11-13 19:47:26] Rado : Back to boring for now
[2016-11-13 19:47:31] Rado : see ya all later
[2016-11-13 19:48:17] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: was there ever a discussion about adding gold futures to BitMEX?
[2016-11-13 19:50:11] habibi : Rado: noone wants it, plenty of place to trade it without big spread, next thing for bitmex is i guess golem futures
[2016-11-13 19:51:08] Rado : Plenty of places to trade it with BTC?
[2016-11-13 19:51:58] habibi : 1broker shitplefx and few others
[2016-11-13 19:52:19] Rado : They charge insane rates
[2016-11-13 19:52:39] habibi : Rado: so don't trade them :D
[2016-11-13 19:52:42] Rado : 0.2% per day
[2016-11-13 19:53:10] Rado : That's why BitMEX will kill their business if they wanted to
[2016-11-13 19:54:25] habibi : Rado: market is nothing without proper market maker
[2016-11-13 19:56:06] Rado : ZEC pump lasted 2 min
[2016-11-13 20:08:09] chikator : hi how does zec futures work?
[2016-11-13 20:08:29] wurstgelee : chikator: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-11-13 20:09:44] chikator : if i go short when the price was 50 xbt per zec16 and now its 0.07 xbt, i would get the same profit that i get in regular exchange or how?
[2016-11-13 20:10:18] chikator : i read this manual about , but i cant understand
[2016-11-13 20:10:37] wurstgelee : https://testnet.bitmex.com
[2016-11-13 20:10:42] wurstgelee : try for free unbtil you do
[2016-11-13 20:10:57] chikator : lets try)
[2016-11-13 20:11:19] chikator : anyway cant understand those futures
[2016-11-13 20:11:42] wurstgelee : you shouldnt trade them then
[2016-11-13 20:14:35] chikator : but i want to understand
[2016-11-13 20:15:20] chikator : why on test i cant put order
[2016-11-13 20:15:49] chikator : first i see that order placed, then red notification that insuficent funds
[2016-11-13 20:16:35] chikator : any help
[2016-11-13 20:16:38] chikator : ?
[2016-11-13 20:17:59] chikator : ok i chat there
[2016-11-13 20:19:32] rapidtrades : get some test bitcoins
[2016-11-13 20:20:57] chikator : if i would placed 1 sell contract of zec16dec at 50xbt and now its value is 0.07 xbt how much profits i would get??????
[2016-11-13 20:21:07] chikator : just answer please
[2016-11-13 20:21:41] rapidtrades : 0 cos u will get smoked
[2016-11-13 20:21:48] chikator : ok for simple count 1 xbt
[2016-11-13 20:21:58] chikator : but why ???
[2016-11-13 20:22:07] chikator : explain this mehanics
[2016-11-13 20:22:14] chikator : please
[2016-11-13 20:22:54] rapidtrades : operation 'Sleeping Giant' will commence soon
[2016-11-13 20:23:09] rapidtrades : trust me, u don't want to short
[2016-11-13 20:23:28] wurstgelee : i rarely do but i agree with rapidtrades here
[2016-11-13 20:23:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-13 20:24:03] wurstgelee : u can still do it ofc if u insist...
[2016-11-13 20:24:29] chikator : but its working like on regular exchnge or how if i short from 50 xbt to 1 xbt for example i expect to see x50 profit or i am wrong?
[2016-11-13 20:25:10] rapidtrades : price here never went above 10, they capped it
[2016-11-13 20:26:37] rapidtrades : chikator: if u short 1 contract, the max u can get is 0.068 if it goes to 0
[2016-11-13 20:26:52] rapidtrades : that's 0.068 btc
[2016-11-13 20:30:48] chikator : ok, example : i short from 10 xbt on expire date price is 0.1, i would get x10 profits?
[2016-11-13 20:31:33] rapidtrades : no u would get 9.9 btc per contract
[2016-11-13 20:31:37] chikator : but why price here different? on polo 0.18
[2016-11-13 20:31:41] rapidtrades : i dunno what 10x means
[2016-11-13 20:31:53] wurstgelee : leverage i guess
[2016-11-13 20:32:00] rapidtrades : chikator: becos ppl here are retarded and made a lot of money with the cap
[2016-11-13 20:32:19] rapidtrades : ppl will keep doing what makes them money no matter how dumb
[2016-11-13 20:33:11] chikator : 10x means multiplies by ten
[2016-11-13 20:33:16] chikator : profits
[2016-11-13 20:33:46] wurstgelee : leverage doesnt influence UPNL
[2016-11-13 20:33:55] wurstgelee : amount of contracts does
[2016-11-13 20:34:50] rapidtrades : dunno how he plans to use leverage when every ZEC rally was close to 100%
[2016-11-13 20:36:50] chikator : but ican sell contract earlier, or i need to wait expiry
[2016-11-13 20:37:05] chikator : till it expire
[2016-11-13 20:38:19] rapidtrades : last one nov8, 0.25>0.55
[2016-11-13 20:38:34] rapidtrades : 0.58
[2016-11-13 20:39:18] rapidtrades : chikator: u can sell it earlier
[2016-11-13 20:39:29] rapidtrades : or buy it if ur short
[2016-11-13 20:41:57] chikator : any way now its too late for some moves, i just remember when it was 10-12 xbt per contract, i wanted to short, but i didnt have funds to buy 1 contract( last stop was 1 btc for short
[2016-11-13 20:42:22] rapidtrades : it was never above 10 m8
[2016-11-13 20:42:47] rapidtrades : they capped it, now cap is moved to 100
[2016-11-13 20:44:40] chikator : aaa i think i get it you couldnt buy more than on 10xbt, know its 100 xbt? right?
[2016-11-13 20:44:56] chikator : now
[2016-11-13 21:04:30] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Osc7tB12/
[2016-11-13 21:05:13] aethlios : consolidation until 25 dec. possible, then an 100% move possible
[2016-11-13 21:07:47] NL007 : 10 was cap
[2016-11-13 21:19:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2493 @ 702.02
[2016-11-13 21:20:34] TheDrunkenGambler : Is LISK still available to trade on Bitmex?
[2016-11-13 21:31:28] aethlios : TheDrunkenGambler: no avail.
[2016-11-13 22:24:34] Rado : aethlios: 100%?
[2016-11-13 22:24:39] Rado : as in $1400
[2016-11-13 22:24:50] miramm1115 : oh wow, I got fills in $680 area, didn't know bitcoin dropped that much here
[2016-11-13 22:54:25] jung1 : you guys are long on btc now?
[2016-11-13 22:55:35] iefken : i am
[2016-11-13 23:09:59] anonymous789 : i'm still short, daily looks like there needs to be further retracement, to around 660-670 area i reckon
[2016-11-13 23:10:53] anonymous789 : if 704-706 area is rejected, that will make a lower high which means more downside
[2016-11-13 23:11:18] anonymous789 : on the hourly that is
[2016-11-13 23:26:43] jung1 : dump on monero
[2016-11-13 23:50:27] rapidtrades : guys u know u can talk even though nothing is moving
[2016-11-13 23:50:31] rapidtrades : it's allowed
[2016-11-13 23:50:52] kradiav : sssh, you'll scare ZEC and it might die for good :P
[2016-11-13 23:52:41] jung1 : yeah its funny here
[2016-11-13 23:53:03] jung1 : if there is more users, less people talk on trollbox
[2016-11-13 23:54:14] rapidtrades : jung1: any shitcoins ur invested in right now?
[2016-11-13 23:55:11] jung1 : iconomy, vdice and golem
[2016-11-13 23:55:31] rapidtrades : golem...nice
[2016-11-13 23:55:45] rapidtrades : u should pick up some cheap ZEC
[2016-11-13 23:55:48] jung1 : poland strong
[2016-11-13 23:56:09] jung1 : yeah Im thinking of it
[2016-11-13 23:56:22] jung1 : have some buy orders at 0.05
[2016-11-13 23:56:57] rapidtrades : cmon that's greedy
[2016-11-13 23:57:06] rapidtrades : market buy some...fomo
[2016-11-13 23:57:56] jung1 : but possible
[2016-11-13 23:58:22] rapidtrades : dam i should apples more often, they freshen u up