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[2016-11-10 08:00:42] shiroe : Lets see if w go 777.
[2016-11-10 08:02:39] miramm1115 : iefken: kaiko BitMEX index - https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-11-10 08:13:41] shifty252 : shiroe: still on long from 720?
[2016-11-10 08:38:17] shiroe : shifty252: Yeah, added more at 716 and 712 earlier.
[2016-11-10 08:38:52] shiroe : Hopefully it pars with 5100 houbi last week :)
[2016-11-10 08:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 700 @ 717.07
[2016-11-10 08:45:51] shifty252 : shiroe: 5100 would be sweet
[2016-11-10 08:46:58] jung1 : agree
[2016-11-10 08:50:39] jung1 : finex 720
[2016-11-10 09:01:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 325 @ 76748
[2016-11-10 09:09:30] jung1 : p we go
[2016-11-10 09:27:22] mispiezas3@gmail.com : up
[2016-11-10 09:27:40] jung1 : yup
[2016-11-10 10:00:52] iefken : so boring waiting for a pump...
[2016-11-10 10:04:06] jung1 : patience is key for success in trading
[2016-11-10 10:04:12] jung1 : listen some techno
[2016-11-10 10:04:12] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgK6pGkhkWE
[2016-11-10 10:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 45 @ 0.008628
[2016-11-10 10:14:07] iefken : lol thx
[2016-11-10 10:20:30] mispiezas3@gmail.com : algo de español ?
[2016-11-10 10:23:21] jung1 : no
[2016-11-10 10:26:42] wurstgelee : re
[2016-11-10 10:56:31] mispiezas3@gmail.com : is moment to buy?
[2016-11-10 10:56:43] jung1 : stamp is moving
[2016-11-10 10:58:02] jung1 : same price on stamp and finex
[2016-11-10 11:23:01] jung1 : cmon bitcoin
[2016-11-10 11:23:05] jung1 : do something funny
[2016-11-10 11:23:13] wurstgelee : like dump to shit ;)
[2016-11-10 11:25:26] jung1 : well I will be not mad if there will be some pump
[2016-11-10 11:33:42] DareDevil : whats the best trading graph site with overviews of both BTC and ETH at minimum?
[2016-11-10 11:36:33] jung1 : good old https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
[2016-11-10 11:37:39] jung1 : https://cryptowat.ch/
[2016-11-10 11:38:32] jung1 : + https://bitcoinaverage.com/en/bitcoin-price/btc-to-usd is helpfull
[2016-11-10 11:41:29] DareDevil : thanks a lot!
[2016-11-10 11:42:57] DareDevil : I used to have a site like bitcoinwisdom with also ETH in it, any idea on that?
[2016-11-10 11:43:47] shifty252 : https://cryptrader.com/charts/poloniex/eth/btc
[2016-11-10 11:43:50] shifty252 : this?
[2016-11-10 11:43:59] DareDevil : found it : https://tradeblock.com/markets/polo/eth-xbt/1h/
[2016-11-10 11:44:36] DareDevil : thanks jung1 and shifty252
[2016-11-10 11:45:35] dasdfasdf : https://cryptowat.ch
[2016-11-10 11:46:38] DareDevil : dasdfasdf: thnx :)
[2016-11-10 11:51:19] jung1 : fiex going for 720 again
[2016-11-10 12:02:36] wurstgelee : or not
[2016-11-10 12:05:33] jung1 : make bitcoin green again
[2016-11-10 12:07:38] Tetsuo : wow, seems like some bought 5 BTC......
[2016-11-10 12:08:15] DareDevil : ...is that big news?
[2016-11-10 12:08:50] DareDevil : 35k BTC traded daily if I'm correct
[2016-11-10 12:08:59] Tetsuo : according to jung1, yes it is
[2016-11-10 12:09:13] jung1 : yesterday someone bought 100 x $2
[2016-11-10 12:09:34] Tetsuo : a new Bitmex whale?
[2016-11-10 12:09:42] jung1 : Tetsuo: seems like
[2016-11-10 12:10:17] Tetsuo : i wish i would be that rich, bitch slapping the market around with such orders
[2016-11-10 12:11:33] jung1 : follow your dreams
[2016-11-10 12:12:19] DareDevil : I'll show you guys what a whale is...
[2016-11-10 12:12:35] DareDevil : see that amazing XBT buy?
[2016-11-10 12:13:27] DareDevil : had to get rid of it again..sorry
[2016-11-10 12:22:05] jung1 : someone closed his long
[2016-11-10 12:28:44] DareDevil : tripple hangman
[2016-11-10 12:34:02] jung1 : ok lets go to 720 and we can short
[2016-11-10 12:57:15] jung1 : guys you are long or short now?
[2016-11-10 12:57:45] wilhelm : I am at long
[2016-11-10 12:57:48] wilhelm : Haha
[2016-11-10 12:57:51] shifty252 : long, REKT will be my friend shortly :)
[2016-11-10 12:58:02] shifty252 : btw, he's not chatty anymore?
[2016-11-10 12:58:13] wilhelm : If you summon him maybe
[2016-11-10 12:58:55] shifty252 : haha, not in a hurry to see him again, but it seems likely he'll return shortly
[2016-11-10 13:03:39] laisee : REKT will attend if people are foolish with their bets/trades
[2016-11-10 13:05:18] Zeckary : Pump & Trump!
[2016-11-10 13:06:17] laisee : and finally Dump ///
[2016-11-10 13:07:03] wurstgelee : went alt shopping @ polo
[2016-11-10 13:07:08] wurstgelee : btc can die now
[2016-11-10 13:07:09] wurstgelee : thx
[2016-11-10 13:08:48] Tetsuo : +1
[2016-11-10 13:09:16] DareDevil : I'm able to get out of my long with 0.0068 XBT loss...should I do it? :P
[2016-11-10 13:10:11] wurstgelee : i wouldnt want to be in a btc long right now ;)
[2016-11-10 13:10:29] shiroe : if it goes below 710. cutloss initiated. :P
[2016-11-10 13:11:59] DareDevil : I'm out, cost me a a kidney but whatever
[2016-11-10 13:12:36] jung1 : well finex seems to hodl
[2016-11-10 13:12:51] DareDevil : already down 2.5 since a few hours
[2016-11-10 13:14:08] shiroe : drop it to 690 if you wont go up! wooo
[2016-11-10 13:17:20] DareDevil : lol @ that bot placing 1k order just below last
[2016-11-10 13:24:25] Tetsuo : wurst, what have you bought? Me-> REP, XMR ; ETC, XCP; BTS
[2016-11-10 13:24:42] DareDevil : here or on polo?
[2016-11-10 13:24:53] Tetsuo : polo
[2016-11-10 13:25:36] DareDevil : LSK :P
[2016-11-10 13:26:46] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: ETC, LSK, DGB, DCR, SC
[2016-11-10 13:26:56] DareDevil : wurstgelee: I bought some DGB yesterday
[2016-11-10 13:27:14] DareDevil : nice low price now :) So don't think its a bad buy now (if you can wait)
[2016-11-10 13:27:19] wurstgelee : descending btc vol, etc is biggest position
[2016-11-10 13:27:37] wurstgelee : low 40s seems ok
[2016-11-10 13:27:41] wurstgelee : will buy more if we go lower
[2016-11-10 13:27:42] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-10 13:27:44] DareDevil : I got it for 40
[2016-11-10 13:27:50] Tetsuo : ok, don´t know most of you buys , but will take a look at them ;-)
[2016-11-10 13:27:50] wurstgelee : 41 ;)
[2016-11-10 13:28:04] DareDevil : but cut my share in DGB to 25% of my original share
[2016-11-10 13:28:09] DareDevil : to little movement
[2016-11-10 13:28:34] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: DCR and SIA only a little, those are usually good for #altsareback bounces
[2016-11-10 13:28:46] wurstgelee : total shitcoins besides that
[2016-11-10 13:28:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-10 13:28:50] DareDevil : Tetsuo: DGB reacts on news from Jared (founder) pretty ok (usually the same day up to the news it pumps) and can go to 80 - 85
[2016-11-10 13:29:05] DareDevil : so, sell on news, buy back later
[2016-11-10 13:29:08] wurstgelee : DareDevil: yep. dgb always pumps. just a matter of time ;)
[2016-11-10 13:29:12] DareDevil : then DGB can me you some money
[2016-11-10 13:29:43] DareDevil : 40 is pretty low to buy (looking historical)
[2016-11-10 13:35:24] messiaen8844 : ZCLASSIC FUTURES???
[2016-11-10 13:37:11] Tetsuo : sooon
[2016-11-10 13:38:22] Tetsuo : this time with 100 BTC cap, ---->free money
[2016-11-10 13:40:50] jung1 : well
[2016-11-10 13:41:13] jung1 : imo worth to try go long from now
[2016-11-10 13:41:51] DareDevil : someone just dropped a 100BT wall on 717... not sure about that
[2016-11-10 13:43:36] jung1 : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
[2016-11-10 13:43:51] jung1 : ah fuck it Im gonna keep my long
[2016-11-10 13:47:07] wurstgelee : found some leftover btc @ nicehash. mining zclash classic now :p
[2016-11-10 13:49:38] Rado : good moring
[2016-11-10 13:50:39] jung1 : hello
[2016-11-10 13:50:49] Rado : hey jung1
[2016-11-10 13:57:14] arbitrage001 : so btc is going down?
[2016-11-10 13:57:17] shiroe : break that resistance!
[2016-11-10 13:57:42] arbitrage001 : someone was laughing at me to short btc during election
[2016-11-10 13:57:52] arbitrage001 : and long zcash
[2016-11-10 14:01:25] shiroe : go 4800!
[2016-11-10 14:02:12] arbitrage001 : go 3000!
[2016-11-10 14:03:55] Tetsuo : 3800-4000CNY might hold : - )
[2016-11-10 14:04:16] arbitrage001 : based on what theory?
[2016-11-10 14:04:29] Rado : BTC is just $40 from recent highs
[2016-11-10 14:04:34] arbitrage001 : techical, astrology or gut feeling?
[2016-11-10 14:04:39] Tetsuo : Rado: It looks pretty bad
[2016-11-10 14:04:47] Tetsuo : arbitrage001: mostly technicals
[2016-11-10 14:04:48] Rado : no it doesn't
[2016-11-10 14:04:58] shiroe : going 666 again? :(
[2016-11-10 14:05:01] Rado : it looks pretty good
[2016-11-10 14:05:06] shiroe : good thing i made a cutloss.
[2016-11-10 14:05:10] Rado : shiroe: everything is possible
[2016-11-10 14:05:26] arbitrage001 : nope
[2016-11-10 14:05:35] arbitrage001 : making a pretty girl like me is immposible
[2016-11-10 14:05:48] DareDevil : glad I'm short now :P
[2016-11-10 14:05:57] Tetsuo : Rado: and Hillary will soo be president @arbitrage001 based on long term support from August 2015
[2016-11-10 14:06:30] arbitrage001 : Tetsuo: yeah, technical analysis for the win !
[2016-11-10 14:06:33] shiroe : waiting for rekt train.
[2016-11-10 14:06:40] arbitrage001 : all hail statistic !
[2016-11-10 14:06:51] DareDevil : shiroe: can't be much longer
[2016-11-10 14:07:00] DareDevil : I saw a bunch of Longs a bit back
[2016-11-10 14:13:03] NL007 : hi
[2016-11-10 14:14:42] DareDevil : there the drop comes
[2016-11-10 14:17:40] Rado : I want to thank you from now for all your money
[2016-11-10 14:19:55] Rado : let me bid 450k contracts
[2016-11-10 14:19:57] Rado : lol
[2016-11-10 14:24:23] arbitrage001 : Rado: which coin and what price
[2016-11-10 14:24:42] Rado : XBTUSD
[2016-11-10 14:24:47] Rado : there was a big bid
[2016-11-10 14:24:50] Rado : not mine
[2016-11-10 14:24:53] Rado : I was kidding
[2016-11-10 14:25:00] Rado : but I will get long soon
[2016-11-10 14:25:21] DareDevil : It might go sub 710 now
[2016-11-10 14:25:27] DareDevil : I'll wait for that :)
[2016-11-10 14:25:33] Rado : DareDevil: it might
[2016-11-10 14:25:49] Rado : you also might keep waiting
[2016-11-10 14:26:14] DareDevil : I might :P But very low buy support atm on BTC down to 710
[2016-11-10 14:29:12] Rado : DareDevil: how do you know there is low support
[2016-11-10 14:29:25] DareDevil : I keep an eye on the order book of the biggest exchanges
[2016-11-10 14:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 4000 @ 736.12
[2016-11-10 14:30:49] DareDevil : wb REKT :D
[2016-11-10 14:31:20] Rado : he he
[2016-11-10 14:31:37] Rado : REKT is not very talkative
[2016-11-10 14:31:47] DareDevil : I know :P
[2016-11-10 14:32:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2000 @ 733.65
[2016-11-10 14:35:53] shiroe : hmmm..
[2016-11-10 14:37:31] NL007 : Donald Trump’s campaign team was in direct contact with Russian officials during election time.
[2016-11-10 14:38:08] NL007 : https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html#comments
[2016-11-10 14:40:15] Rado : much better than go to war with Russia
[2016-11-10 14:41:02] jung1 : true
[2016-11-10 14:41:48] jung1 : hmm will we break 710?
[2016-11-10 14:42:32] Rado : maybe for a few min
[2016-11-10 14:42:33] arbitrage001 : war is inevitable
[2016-11-10 14:42:35] shiroe : Wait for it.
[2016-11-10 14:43:20] jung1 : Rado: you are long?
[2016-11-10 14:43:21] Rado : arbitrage001: only because the military industrial complex needs to make money
[2016-11-10 14:43:31] NL007 : its not allowed Trump was briefed by national security with classified info.
[2016-11-10 14:43:43] arbitrage001 : Rado: so, let's do it with soviet
[2016-11-10 14:43:55] Rado : also governments seem to be going for global governing
[2016-11-10 14:43:57] Rado : bad for people
[2016-11-10 14:44:13] Rado : arbitrage001: every government is bad
[2016-11-10 14:44:20] Rado : we should just create a new system
[2016-11-10 14:44:25] arbitrage001 : Rado: not if they put me in charge
[2016-11-10 14:44:25] NL007 : Putin is smart
[2016-11-10 14:44:26] Rado : we should do it fast
[2016-11-10 14:44:32] Rado : arbitrage001: lol
[2016-11-10 14:44:44] Rado : lets focus on crypto
[2016-11-10 14:46:08] arbitrage001 : Rado: crypto is by product of of the military industry complex
[2016-11-10 14:46:31] Rado : arbitrage001: probably
[2016-11-10 14:46:39] jung1 : nice buy orders here at 712
[2016-11-10 14:46:47] Rado : but if the plan is to destroy fiat I rather be in crypto
[2016-11-10 14:46:52] arbitrage001 : jung1: it will keep going down
[2016-11-10 14:47:02] arbitrage001 : to 400
[2016-11-10 14:47:06] arbitrage001 : then 300
[2016-11-10 14:47:10] arbitrage001 : then 200
[2016-11-10 14:47:17] arbitrage001 : then i will buy at 150
[2016-11-10 14:47:28] jung1 : hope so
[2016-11-10 14:47:32] Rado : arbitrage001: you wish you bought at 0.50
[2016-11-10 14:47:46] arbitrage001 : Rado: no, i wish i bought at 0.04
[2016-11-10 14:47:49] jung1 : I love when bitcoin die
[2016-11-10 14:48:35] arbitrage001 : people who bought before there is even an exchange
[2016-11-10 14:48:40] arbitrage001 : have vision
[2016-11-10 14:48:44] Rado : XBTUSD at $3 premium
[2016-11-10 14:48:46] arbitrage001 : no infrastructure
[2016-11-10 14:48:59] arbitrage001 : btc cant but shit back then
[2016-11-10 14:49:04] arbitrage001 : cant buy
[2016-11-10 14:49:27] jung1 : you could buy drugs and guns
[2016-11-10 14:49:31] Rado : Major Franchise Installs 11 Bitcoin ATMs in Cafes Across Canada
[2016-11-10 14:49:32] jung1 : first need products
[2016-11-10 14:49:36] arbitrage001 : before that
[2016-11-10 14:50:07] arbitrage001 : Rado: first bicoin atm in malaysia last less than 2 weeks
[2016-11-10 14:50:21] arbitrage001 : government asking for bribe money
[2016-11-10 14:50:28] jung1 : in poland is like one atm
[2016-11-10 14:50:29] arbitrage001 : owner fed up
[2016-11-10 14:50:49] Rado : arbitrage001: I bought a couple of BTC from an ATM here 2 years ago
[2016-11-10 14:51:00] Rado : the same company that is in this article
[2016-11-10 14:51:05] Rado : they have been doing pretty good
[2016-11-10 14:51:09] arbitrage001 : Rado: what is the premium?
[2016-11-10 14:51:19] jung1 : but you can buy it in couple of thousands shops across the country. Well not directly but you can deposit money on bitcoin exchange during shoping
[2016-11-10 14:51:21] Rado : it was big back then
[2016-11-10 14:51:25] Rado : not sure now
[2016-11-10 14:51:43] arbitrage001 : atm premium should be higher than lbc premium
[2016-11-10 14:51:47] arbitrage001 : since they need to pay rent
[2016-11-10 14:52:41] Rado : arbitrage001: lbc also have issues with transfer of the money
[2016-11-10 14:52:58] arbitrage001 : Rado: depend on how you do it
[2016-11-10 14:53:11] Rado : arbitrage001: you always need a 3rd party
[2016-11-10 14:53:23] arbitrage001 : meaning
[2016-11-10 14:53:25] arbitrage001 : /
[2016-11-10 14:53:28] arbitrage001 : ?
[2016-11-10 14:55:39] Rado : to transfer money from one person to another
[2016-11-10 14:55:45] Rado : you need to use some service
[2016-11-10 14:55:59] arbitrage001 : use local bank
[2016-11-10 14:56:23] Rado : exactly
[2016-11-10 14:56:31] Rado : people don't want to use a bank
[2016-11-10 14:56:40] Rado : Banks suck
[2016-11-10 14:57:14] jung1 : post dove can transfer money also
[2016-11-10 15:01:14] Rado : Look at thi schart
[2016-11-10 15:01:15] Rado : this
[2016-11-10 15:01:17] Rado : https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins
[2016-11-10 15:01:52] jung1 : 100btc buy wall on finex
[2016-11-10 15:04:53] shiroe : why care about finex without volume.
[2016-11-10 15:11:25] bernx : what happen with gold?
[2016-11-10 15:15:18] jpc : Strong usd I m afraid
[2016-11-10 15:23:25] mispiezas3@gmail.com : gold 1000 btc 1000
[2016-11-10 15:30:55] aethlios : Hello traders, Lepen has basically no serious opponent in France, 7 months for the elections are enough for her to win elections. She said a referendum for euro and if france leaves this is the end of euro, so eur/usd could collapse next months.
[2016-11-10 15:32:36] jung1 : possible
[2016-11-10 15:32:40] aethlios : also if trump withdraw us army from around the world, cut defence spending, deficits will shrink and dollar will be much stronger, yuan will have to devalue against a stronger dollar and btc will rally.
[2016-11-10 15:32:48] Rado : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw6UCmUUsAAdy8L.jpg
[2016-11-10 15:33:59] aethlios : also btc could start be a tool to safe keep money for europeans, when the euro starts to collapse below 1, so not only Chinese factor but also European factor could drive btc up.
[2016-11-10 15:35:38] jung1 : so basicly
[2016-11-10 15:35:43] jung1 : good to be here
[2016-11-10 15:37:35] sleger : aethlios: you're full of shit. LePen is second in polls first of all. Then Trump clearly said he will increase defence spending
[2016-11-10 15:39:28] wurstgelee : LePen wont win in France
[2016-11-10 15:39:37] arbitrage001 : sleger: while i agree aethlios is full of shit. polls are also full of shit
[2016-11-10 15:40:10] aethlios : sleger: haha second in polls, like brexit and trump was second, always the second wins. You don't think politically, many months until french elections, the trend is in favour of Lepen. Trump will make a decent deal with russia, intervene less, and try to fix prob;ems inside the country.
[2016-11-10 15:40:36] sleger : no i dont think so, yes she doesnt have 0% chance, but no
[2016-11-10 15:41:38] sleger : i did put money on brexit and on trump, because i thought the odds were good but i still thought they each had less than 50% chance. I wont put money on lepen, unless things change until then
[2016-11-10 15:41:42] wurstgelee : LePen is more or less openly far right wing, diff than Trump
[2016-11-10 15:42:06] wurstgelee : france wont elect far right, not with a majority
[2016-11-10 15:42:24] rapidtrades : right, Trump is an opportunist imo
[2016-11-10 15:42:29] wurstgelee : i didnt put money on brexit, it did on trump tho. ;)
[2016-11-10 15:42:34] wurstgelee : odds etc
[2016-11-10 15:44:43] arbitrage001 : put money on zcash, baby
[2016-11-10 15:44:50] aethlios : that spike 1.129 to euro was a bargein long term
[2016-11-10 15:44:56] arbitrage001 : better odd than brexit and trump
[2016-11-10 15:56:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: Buy 98 @ 0.006882
[2016-11-10 15:59:18] Triosho : Hi REKT
[2016-11-10 16:01:17] Triosho : btc pump?
[2016-11-10 16:01:50] kradiav : tots
[2016-11-10 16:02:53] wilhelm : pump
[2016-11-10 16:03:00] wilhelm : ?
[2016-11-10 16:03:10] kradiav : yeap
[2016-11-10 16:05:03] shiroe : no pump for this week, sorry.
[2016-11-10 16:05:44] kradiav : lies
[2016-11-10 16:16:12] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-11-10 16:16:16] rapidtrades : don't figh
[2016-11-10 16:16:19] rapidtrades : t
[2016-11-10 16:16:36] arbitrage001 : fight waht
[2016-11-10 16:16:43] Triosho : lol
[2016-11-10 16:16:44] arbitrage001 : price isnt even decided here
[2016-11-10 16:16:58] arbitrage001 : MM just quoting off other sources
[2016-11-10 16:17:09] shiroe : it seems no recovery will happen. lmfao
[2016-11-10 16:17:13] rapidtrades : apperently Zcash price is decided here
[2016-11-10 16:17:21] arbitrage001 : nope
[2016-11-10 16:17:33] arbitrage001 : just bitmex's trader view of dec 30th price
[2016-11-10 16:17:41] arbitrage001 : which can be right or wrong
[2016-11-10 16:17:53] rapidtrades : i'll take wrong for $50
[2016-11-10 16:18:11] arbitrage001 : put your money on zcash then
[2016-11-10 16:18:16] arbitrage001 : no point arguing here
[2016-11-10 16:55:54] wurstgelee : back in that zec long game
[2016-11-10 16:56:00] wurstgelee : thanks to recent dumps ;)
[2016-11-10 17:10:46] Jokerr : long zec! :D
[2016-11-10 17:12:33] wurstgelee : so u are short?
[2016-11-10 17:16:13] Jokerr : who isn't
[2016-11-10 17:16:59] dasdfasdf : need a proof a position in the chat
[2016-11-10 17:19:08] wurstgelee : Jokerr: hi, nice to meet you, your btc will be mine soon.
[2016-11-10 17:19:18] wurstgelee : always a pleasure meeting people paying my profits
[2016-11-10 17:19:19] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-10 17:19:37] Triosho : :P
[2016-11-10 17:19:57] Jokerr : so what is my position @wurstgelee
[2016-11-10 17:20:06] Jokerr : what is my entry? :P
[2016-11-10 17:20:20] Triosho : :p
[2016-11-10 17:20:23] wurstgelee : dunno
[2016-11-10 17:21:20] Jokerr : so how do you know you will liquidate my position lol
[2016-11-10 17:21:56] arbitrage001 : people who short normally dont carry more than twice the position
[2016-11-10 17:22:16] arbitrage001 : since the likelyhoold of something double in value overnight is negligible
[2016-11-10 17:22:26] arbitrage001 : for normal investment
[2016-11-10 17:22:35] arbitrage001 : but we dont live in normal world here
[2016-11-10 17:22:57] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-10 17:23:35] arbitrage001 : i am guessing the fist adl will be around 0.25 in mark price
[2016-11-10 17:23:41] arbitrage001 : first adl
[2016-11-10 17:23:48] Jokerr : that's why you shouldn't place a position with everything you have and max leverage, especially with these kinds of markets
[2016-11-10 17:23:52] arbitrage001 : or way below if someone use high leverage
[2016-11-10 17:23:58] Jokerr : few days ago someone just bought everything up till 0.35
[2016-11-10 17:24:03] Jokerr : @zec market
[2016-11-10 17:24:18] wurstgelee : stop orders probably
[2016-11-10 17:24:26] Jokerr : jups
[2016-11-10 17:24:44] Jokerr : not really liquid market yet, so esy to get rekt
[2016-11-10 17:24:56] arbitrage001 : reason why i think shorter have lower than normal intelligence
[2016-11-10 17:25:06] wurstgelee : and the risk for short ~.12 is much higher
[2016-11-10 17:25:10] arbitrage001 : there are much better way to make money elseway with lower risk
[2016-11-10 17:25:24] wurstgelee : also possible profit for longs @ ~.12 is much higher
[2016-11-10 17:25:26] arbitrage001 : thank shorting zcash
[2016-11-10 17:25:27] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-10 17:25:38] arbitrage001 : than shorting zcash that is
[2016-11-10 17:26:24] wurstgelee : so far longs won big time vs shorts here @ zec
[2016-11-10 17:26:39] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: yea, even as the price goes down
[2016-11-10 17:26:44] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-10 17:26:45] arbitrage001 : that speaks volume
[2016-11-10 17:26:52] wurstgelee : never löst a single long since day 1 ;)
[2016-11-10 17:27:04] wurstgelee : where i lost 1 contract to that surprise wall ;)
[2016-11-10 17:27:38] Jokerr : cmoing weeks will tell who is wrong or right
[2016-11-10 17:27:58] arbitrage001 : Jokerr: on what? zcash going down?
[2016-11-10 17:28:06] wurstgelee : Jokerr: no
[2016-11-10 17:28:22] arbitrage001 : even if price goes down, can you with stand the intermediate price spike up?
[2016-11-10 17:28:23] wurstgelee : i cant possibly lose that much with longs
[2016-11-10 17:28:28] wurstgelee : to not win overall ;)
[2016-11-10 17:28:55] Jokerr : Volatility will be less
[2016-11-10 17:29:05] Jokerr : so no problem
[2016-11-10 17:29:09] arbitrage001 : why is that?
[2016-11-10 17:29:24] arbitrage001 : btc market cap is over 1.2B, has volatility drop?
[2016-11-10 17:29:33] arbitrage001 : 12B i mean
[2016-11-10 17:29:33] wurstgelee : because of the vast supply of 300k of which maybe 100k will be on polo until dec 30th? :p
[2016-11-10 17:29:54] wurstgelee : probably less
[2016-11-10 17:32:33] Jokerr : Zcash needs to proof it's not just an altcoin like any other. I know that the supply increase is mentioned 300x in here, but to absorb that much btw per day is madness. The amount of new money flowing in crypto is limited. 7200 zec per day will me mined in a few weeks time
[2016-11-10 17:33:07] Jokerr : maybe 100k will be on the sell side yeah, I think even less then 100k, but the majority will be dumped as usual
[2016-11-10 17:33:14] Jokerr : but it's crypto so we never know
[2016-11-10 17:33:37] Jokerr : I do know that if people want to keep up the price like this they need to have deep pockets
[2016-11-10 17:33:54] arbitrage001 : you underestimate the scale of the money in alt coin market
[2016-11-10 17:33:58] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-10 17:34:04] wurstgelee : you clearly do
[2016-11-10 17:34:05] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-10 17:36:09] Jokerr : nahh, you see when btc goes up, all alts go down, that tells me enough about the amount of money in crypto
[2016-11-10 17:36:37] wurstgelee : hehe, yes, it does =)
[2016-11-10 17:53:11] asdfy : test
[2016-11-10 17:59:40] CaptainDean : so moods is BTC will sink
[2016-11-10 18:00:07] CaptainDean : current mood*
[2016-11-10 18:23:16] rapidtrades : oh look we retraced all the gains from trump win
[2016-11-10 18:23:23] rapidtrades : i thought we were going to 1000?
[2016-11-10 18:24:30] wurstgelee : we didnt do the full retrace yet
[2016-11-10 18:25:26] rapidtrades : ur right, we need to drop $1
[2016-11-10 18:26:32] wurstgelee : 4820....
[2016-11-10 18:26:52] rapidtrades : f*ck china
[2016-11-10 18:27:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5990 @ 711.02
[2016-11-10 18:27:37] Dtrade16 : I predicted we would drop to the same level as before trump yesterday after china woke up
[2016-11-10 18:27:52] Dtrade16 : We may even go a bit lower?
[2016-11-10 18:27:52] wurstgelee : first FL results came in @ 709, we are @ 713
[2016-11-10 18:27:57] wurstgelee : $4
[2016-11-10 18:28:13] wurstgelee : thats for stamp
[2016-11-10 18:28:30] rapidtrades : Dtrade16: I predicted it before the election
[2016-11-10 18:28:46] Dtrade16 : maybe 700-705 now
[2016-11-10 18:28:49] rapidtrades : guess i should've shorted at 740 lol
[2016-11-10 18:28:55] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: right
[2016-11-10 18:29:02] shiroe : 4800 full retrace? or 700?
[2016-11-10 18:29:10] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: you were pretty quiet from what I recall
[2016-11-10 18:29:32] rapidtrades : was trading forex
[2016-11-10 18:29:50] Dtrade16 : lol
[2016-11-10 18:30:16] Dtrade16 : We may even go lower don't you guys think
[2016-11-10 18:30:51] QuantFocus : yes
[2016-11-10 18:30:54] Dtrade16 : I mean if trump comes out with some awesome speech regarding the economy
[2016-11-10 18:30:58] rapidtrades : it will be hard for BTC to drop while the Yuan keeps weakening
[2016-11-10 18:31:14] rapidtrades : that is barring another ban news
[2016-11-10 18:31:30] QuantFocus : technicals still super weak
[2016-11-10 18:31:43] Dtrade16 : why is it dropping right now then?
[2016-11-10 18:31:53] Dtrade16 : the yuan is weak
[2016-11-10 18:32:53] rapidtrades : retracing the Trump pump
[2016-11-10 18:34:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2680 @ 710.70
[2016-11-10 18:47:52] wurstgelee : hmmmmmm
[2016-11-10 19:15:56] imabeast : wurstgelee: yooo
[2016-11-10 19:16:05] imabeast : wurstgelee: what are u in right now?
[2016-11-10 19:16:24] Apocalyptic : long ZEC obviously
[2016-11-10 19:16:47] Apocalyptic : oh wait that was rapid, nevermind
[2016-11-10 19:18:08] kradiav : shots fired :D
[2016-11-10 19:18:33] imabeast : Apocalyptic: lmao
[2016-11-10 19:18:48] QuantFocus : here we go...maybe
[2016-11-10 19:22:13] shiroe : i wonder how many times 710 wil be tested before recovering .
[2016-11-10 19:22:28] Boontjie : shiroe: if it recovers
[2016-11-10 19:22:54] shiroe : someone keeps reloading at 711 level.
[2016-11-10 19:26:14] DareDevil : 707 soon
[2016-11-10 19:27:35] imabeast : think it breaks 710
[2016-11-10 19:28:07] kradiav : back to $600
[2016-11-10 19:28:25] imabeast : maybe like 630-650
[2016-11-10 19:29:23] kradiav : The REKT law dictates that price will drop lower even when you take into account the REKT law
[2016-11-10 19:30:41] DareDevil : market price already 708
[2016-11-10 19:31:03] DareDevil : currently no signs of recovering on major exchanges yet
[2016-11-10 19:32:51] DareDevil : seems like someone here doesn't want some longs to REKT, they keep buying 711 / 712 :P
[2016-11-10 19:33:39] shiroe : seems 4888 is a lucky houbi number.
[2016-11-10 19:34:18] DareDevil : what coin?
[2016-11-10 19:37:12] CaptainDean : BTC ...
[2016-11-10 19:37:19] CaptainDean : in Yen
[2016-11-10 19:40:35] wurstgelee : yen?
[2016-11-10 19:42:26] CaptainDean : Yuan
[2016-11-10 19:42:55] CaptainDean : Whatever the fuck is at Huobi
[2016-11-10 19:44:43] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-10 20:32:01] Jokerr : Approximately 131,250 Zcash coins were distributed among investors at a price of $15.24 per coin against the $2 million raised during the summer round of funding.
[2016-11-10 20:32:05] Jokerr : nice roi at this price
[2016-11-10 20:35:15] mjones : That doesn't seem legit
[2016-11-10 20:36:15] BitMEX_Sam : I think that is distributed as a split of the founder's reward
[2016-11-10 20:36:28] BitMEX_Sam : So they get it over a timeframe, but not sure what that timeframe is. Might be the full 2yrs
[2016-11-10 20:36:42] Apocalyptic : it's 4 years
[2016-11-10 20:36:53] Apocalyptic : they get no reward after that
[2016-11-10 20:37:33] BitMEX_Sam : Ah you're right, late 2020.
[2016-11-10 20:37:48] CaptainDean : 20% reward is shit
[2016-11-10 20:38:07] BitMEX_Sam : I agree that it's high
[2016-11-10 20:38:33] BitMEX_Sam : Although I know from experience that good code doesn't write itself and the talent has to come from somewhere. But if ZEC reaches anywhere near the use of Bitcoin, 20% is a massive drain
[2016-11-10 20:39:06] CaptainDean : It's like sticking a huge dildo everytime you found a block (I'm using rapids spirit here) looool
[2016-11-10 20:39:32] BitMEX_Sam : Hah, not sure I'd go that far.
[2016-11-10 20:39:44] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Sam: yeah i'm kdding, it's high for sure
[2016-11-10 20:49:01] Jokerr : If a coin had 5% premine people already called it a scam
[2016-11-10 20:49:13] Jokerr : now with 20% reward, it's okay
[2016-11-10 20:53:07] QuantFocus : it's not really that bad, considering there was no ico or premine
[2016-11-10 20:53:31] QuantFocus : essentially pays for them to commit to work on it for at least 4 years
[2016-11-10 20:54:28] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah that's the idea.
[2016-11-10 20:54:48] Apocalyptic : ^ this. With premine you have no incentive to continue development, thus you can dump the stash and abandon the coin. This incentivize continuous work for the timeframe
[2016-11-10 21:03:28] NL007 : QuantFocus: the devs already received thousands of Zec. Thats a bag of btc.
[2016-11-10 21:07:47] anonymous789 : nice the interest rate going short is better than what i get at my retail bank
[2016-11-10 21:10:50] sleger : yes and keeping money on an exchange is definitely safer too !
[2016-11-10 21:24:24] QuantFocus : sleger: :thumbsup:
[2016-11-10 21:26:00] Tetsuo : I´m doin even better, i´m holdin almost12k LTC @ OKC without getting any interest. Beat that u fools!
[2016-11-10 21:26:13] rapidtrades : u moron
[2016-11-10 21:26:52] QuantFocus : anonymous789: if you were collecting your 8%/year on bitfinex you would only have to take a 33% haircut
[2016-11-10 21:27:00] QuantFocus : not bad
[2016-11-10 21:29:13] anonymous789 : indeed pretty good
[2016-11-10 21:33:13] sleger : Tetsuo: just short the ltc futures at least you get something out of it
[2016-11-10 21:34:51] anonymous789 : good idea
[2016-11-10 21:41:01] sleger : maybe he is waiting for a ltc pump
[2016-11-10 21:41:55] Tetsuo : yes, my chickuns gonna fly soon....
[2016-11-10 21:42:27] Tetsuo : LTC/BTC @ 0.005 will be the bottom
[2016-11-10 21:43:27] Apocalyptic : ltc is a dead coin
[2016-11-10 21:43:31] Tetsuo : bought most of them in the 3.50-4.20$ range, not much room downards left i think, so i won´t short
[2016-11-10 21:43:38] Apocalyptic : good luck waiting for that
[2016-11-10 21:44:23] sleger : ltc will take forever to die
[2016-11-10 21:45:53] Apocalyptic : that's also true
[2016-11-10 21:46:00] Apocalyptic : but it will... slowly
[2016-11-10 21:46:30] Apocalyptic : too bad there isn't a perpetual LTC swap here
[2016-11-10 21:46:43] sleger : there was
[2016-11-10 21:46:47] Apocalyptic : I know
[2016-11-10 21:47:11] Apocalyptic : expired last Friday or something, and now we're left with this linear short term future
[2016-11-10 21:47:27] sleger : i asked many times for 30d
[2016-11-10 21:47:36] sleger : i/o 7d
[2016-11-10 21:47:37] Tetsuo : 30d would be awesome
[2016-11-10 21:47:45] Apocalyptic : I asked why it was removed, but apparently no one knows
[2016-11-10 21:47:51] sleger : Apocalyptic: yes funding
[2016-11-10 21:48:05] sleger : funding was too volatile, everyone complained
[2016-11-10 21:48:25] Tetsuo : we have to annoy them a bit more, and in a few weeks they will give up, like they always do and give us 30d
[2016-11-10 21:48:55] Tetsuo : for other alts of course too
[2016-11-10 21:49:53] sleger : arthur claimed their mm doesnt want to
[2016-11-10 21:50:18] sleger : but the reason did not make sense : he said it was because it would require them to hold too much at polo (for hedging)
[2016-11-10 21:50:31] sleger : however they were ok with the swap which is even longer term, so wtf....
[2016-11-10 21:50:59] Tetsuo : ...
[2016-11-10 21:51:32] Apocalyptic : sleger: indeed, sounds like bs
[2016-11-10 21:52:17] sleger : i think the real reason is obvious, they know most people dont churn alts, they just hold, so 7d = 4x more fees
[2016-11-10 21:53:29] zanza : basically sleger lol
[2016-11-10 21:56:24] sleger : if that is actually the real reason then i'd be fine with higher fees and a 30d product
[2016-11-10 21:57:33] Apocalyptic : same here
[2016-11-10 22:01:58] RocketScience : why not both?
[2016-11-10 22:02:07] RocketScience : ;)
[2016-11-10 22:03:42] rasdasd : btc breaking up the triangle
[2016-11-10 22:03:59] rasdasd : 750 here we go again
[2016-11-10 22:05:46] viptrader : short here
[2016-11-10 22:05:53] viptrader : close at 350$
[2016-11-10 22:06:59] Jokerr : lol 350
[2016-11-10 22:07:28] viptrader : yup
[2016-11-10 22:08:07] rasdasd : lol cny at lowest point in 2016..chinese are gonna pump btc
[2016-11-10 22:08:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.002997
[2016-11-10 22:09:06] viptrader : rasdasd: aka, cny gonna pump
[2016-11-10 22:09:08] viptrader : btc gonna dump
[2016-11-10 22:09:16] viptrader : we are in a double top
[2016-11-10 22:09:23] viptrader : btc gonna doom so hard
[2016-11-10 22:09:27] rasdasd : it will pump but not yet
[2016-11-10 22:09:28] viptrader : people gonna freakout
[2016-11-10 22:09:45] sleger : and one is gonna get rekt
[2016-11-10 22:09:58] rasdasd : you are trying to get your longs filled? @viptrader
[2016-11-10 22:10:14] viptrader : hell no
[2016-11-10 22:10:22] viptrader : im shorting this on every bounce
[2016-11-10 22:10:25] viptrader : doom from here
[2016-11-10 22:10:50] Tetsuo : viptrader: go all in ! Max leverage max profit!
[2016-11-10 22:11:23] viptrader : see you below 700