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[2016-11-09 09:15:55] REKT : Thou shalt not short Bitcoin
[2016-11-09 09:16:13] shiroe : never listen to the guy that steals your money. lmfao
[2016-11-09 09:16:21] wilhelm : lol
[2016-11-09 09:16:28] shiroe : Though shall not, means short it
[2016-11-09 09:16:48] jung1 : who stels money?
[2016-11-09 09:16:48] jung1 : its game
[2016-11-09 09:16:53] jung1 : someone have to lose
[2016-11-09 09:17:10] REKT : Thou shalt not covet REKT's money
[2016-11-09 09:17:46] jung1 : rekt or not to rekt?
[2016-11-09 09:18:07] wilhelm : That's the question
[2016-11-09 09:18:35] CapitalGains : As far as I understand, you can trade with effectively 100x leverage but reduce your losses by 50% if you trade with 50x leverage but set your own stop limit to close at whatever the 100x liquidation price would have been. That way you don't lose all the maintenance margin.
[2016-11-09 09:19:07] zanza : then you dont make as much either
[2016-11-09 09:19:21] zanza : lower leverage = safer simple
[2016-11-09 09:19:26] CapitalGains : 50x leverage with double the amount
[2016-11-09 09:19:37] CapitalGains : Double the margin
[2016-11-09 09:20:03] wilhelm : mm
[2016-11-09 09:20:23] CapitalGains : In other words, you liquidate yourself, but you keep the maintenance margin for yourself instead of it going to the insurance fund.
[2016-11-09 09:21:21] laisee : REKT has escaped, like Clippy
[2016-11-09 09:21:29] REKT : Thou shalt not take the name of thy REKT in vain
[2016-11-09 09:21:52] CapitalGains : REKT: I thought you were a bot
[2016-11-09 09:22:10] lockhedge : CapitalGains: you reduce your risk more than 50%. with 100x you only have 0.5% space until liquidation (even less if you use stops), with 50x it's 1.5% (initial margin - maintenance margin)
[2016-11-09 09:22:27] laisee : CapitalGains: you say that like a bot is nothing of substance, a plaything
[2016-11-09 09:23:27] REKT : I am the Lord of REKT, which have brought thee to the ruin in the house of BitMEX
[2016-11-09 09:24:36] CapitalGains : lockhedge: Exactly. So if you want to limit your loss like with isolated 100x, it's better to use 50x with twice as much margin, and use your limits to minimise the loss (rather than using the liquidation of 100x at 0.5%).
[2016-11-09 09:24:58] iefken : REKT, can you alter the market a bit? would like a bit increase in btc price plz
[2016-11-09 09:25:42] maker101 : Today I opened a short x100, went to adjust the slider to perhaps x10, as I was moving to the slider I got liquidated. So pushed the sell button 1 second later REKT
[2016-11-09 09:26:24] maker101 : Brutal
[2016-11-09 09:26:38] CapitalGains : Scary
[2016-11-09 09:27:28] maker101 : My own fault for not checking the liq price
[2016-11-09 09:27:36] REKT : Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD And whose trust is the LORD. iefken: Blessed is the man who trusts in the REKT and whose trust is the LORD. Pray to the REKT and he shalt deliver!
[2016-11-09 09:28:13] micmix : messed up this one, didn't you REKT?
[2016-11-09 09:28:17] jung1 : 750 in 3h form now
[2016-11-09 09:28:25] maker101 : REKT: I'm not sure you are very popular around here. It's like befriending the devil :)
[2016-11-09 09:28:37] iefken : im praying yes
[2016-11-09 09:28:51] maker101 : Bitmex needs a more positive bot...
[2016-11-09 09:29:08] iefken : dont hurt its feelings
[2016-11-09 09:29:29] maker101 : like... OWNED: Closed long on XBTUSD: Sell 10000 @ 734.82 with 1.5 BTC PROFIT
[2016-11-09 09:29:43] maker101 : You need to hear about the good news too
[2016-11-09 09:29:49] CapitalGains : That would be cool :)
[2016-11-09 09:29:50] maker101 : I would befriend OWNED
[2016-11-09 09:30:52] iefken : im i waiting for a pump in vain or what
[2016-11-09 09:31:14] REKT : The REKT takes pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his mercy.
[2016-11-09 09:33:10] anonymous789 : if your unrealised pnl and realised pnl is around the same, does that mean you're breaking even?
[2016-11-09 09:33:31] maker101 : anonymous789: For that individual contract, yes
[2016-11-09 09:33:40] anonymous789 : aah thought so
[2016-11-09 09:33:46] anonymous789 : bah fees eating my profits lol
[2016-11-09 09:33:52] maker101 : Realised is your history
[2016-11-09 09:34:00] maker101 : Unrealised is the current trade
[2016-11-09 09:34:42] anonymous789 : as the realised increases, i guess realised includes fees also
[2016-11-09 09:34:57] anonymous789 : decreases*
[2016-11-09 09:35:11] maker101 : When you open a position, you see your realised trades from the past. So if you made a loss of 2 BTC, you will see -2.0 BTC realised loss
[2016-11-09 09:35:21] anonymous789 : aah okay
[2016-11-09 09:35:40] maker101 : Unrealised is the new trade you just opened
[2016-11-09 09:35:57] maker101 : As it's not been realised yet...
[2016-11-09 09:36:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 734.03
[2016-11-09 09:36:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5700 @ 733.93
[2016-11-09 09:36:29] anonymous789 : aah yea can see in the history
[2016-11-09 09:36:43] wilhelm : Rekt oh rekt
[2016-11-09 09:36:47] wilhelm : REKTT
[2016-11-09 09:36:56] wilhelm : :P
[2016-11-09 09:37:44] REKT : It is better to take refuge in the REKT than to trust in bitcoin
[2016-11-09 09:38:29] jung1 : $7 below finex
[2016-11-09 09:39:08] wilhelm : All hail REKT
[2016-11-09 09:39:50] maker101 : I used to have a house, wife and car then suddenly.. REKT lol
[2016-11-09 09:41:12] jung1 : rekt is life
[2016-11-09 09:41:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 358 @ 733.09
[2016-11-09 09:41:37] jung1 : [ *]
[2016-11-09 09:42:10] REKT : Cursed is the man who trusts in bitcoin and makes money his strength, and whose heart turns away from the REKT
[2016-11-09 09:42:42] wilhelm : life it rekt
[2016-11-09 09:42:45] wilhelm : is*
[2016-11-09 09:43:02] wilhelm : Blessed is the man who seek salvation in REKT, and makes REKT his saviour.
[2016-11-09 09:43:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 732.46
[2016-11-09 09:43:48] wilhelm : Hail REKT
[2016-11-09 09:44:00] maker101 : I have acquired a particular set of skills. I will find you. :)
[2016-11-09 09:44:16] wilhelm : maker101: Taken? :P
[2016-11-09 09:44:24] maker101 : wilhelm: Yeah you got me
[2016-11-09 09:44:44] wilhelm : haha
[2016-11-09 09:44:46] wilhelm : Market is cray cray
[2016-11-09 09:45:52] wilhelm : I wonder who Soldl 2000 @ 730.80
[2016-11-09 09:47:15] wilhelm : Uh oh
[2016-11-09 09:47:39] lockhedge : Kraken now at a $13-14 premium vs. China
[2016-11-09 09:48:54] micmix : lockhedge: I don't think I ever saw China discount getting so large
[2016-11-09 09:49:23] micmix : maybe in 2014
[2016-11-09 09:51:05] iefken : china discount?
[2016-11-09 09:51:21] thiago : dump starting?
[2016-11-09 09:51:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 66500 @ 730.90 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-09 10:02:41] CapitalGains : How many of you guys use cross margin?
[2016-11-09 10:02:44] wilhelm : All hail REKT
[2016-11-09 10:04:27] lockhedge : CapitalGains: i'm using cross margin, currently with 0.5x leverage
[2016-11-09 10:04:54] CapitalGains : 0.5x means you have twice as much margin as the value of your position? Or what?
[2016-11-09 10:05:31] jose : if you use cross margin, you dont care about leverage, just liquidation price
[2016-11-09 10:06:50] REKT : Whoever does not take up their cross-margin and follow me is not worthy of me.
[2016-11-09 10:08:10] micmix : CapitalGains: 0.5x on cross means that his account balance is two times bigger than the value of all his positions
[2016-11-09 10:08:32] CapitalGains : lol REKT
[2016-11-09 10:11:19] iefken : finally pump is coming
[2016-11-09 10:11:47] CapitalGains : iefken: Where?
[2016-11-09 10:11:58] iefken : btc i hope
[2016-11-09 10:12:13] CapitalGains : I mean, on what exchange do you see evidence of a pump coming?
[2016-11-09 10:12:55] wilhelm : iefken: curious to know too
[2016-11-09 10:14:04] iefken : https://www.kaiko.com/digital-asset-price-indices
[2016-11-09 10:14:30] iefken : i follow the cny in usd prices, and they rose a bit since last time i checked
[2016-11-09 10:21:13] CapitalGains : Is it possible to be ADLed at a loss?
[2016-11-09 10:22:02] lockhedge : yes, but very unlikely
[2016-11-09 10:22:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 2000 @ 0.008637
[2016-11-09 10:26:20] Triosho : REKT
[2016-11-09 10:26:55] wilhelm : REKT
[2016-11-09 10:48:50] BumbleBee : common XBT
[2016-11-09 11:08:05] jung1 : bitcoin is dead
[2016-11-09 11:10:54] wilhelm : jung1: It's not moving much
[2016-11-09 11:13:21] iefken : patience
[2016-11-09 11:16:50] BumbleBee : weakhands
[2016-11-09 11:26:16] NL007 : trump wow
[2016-11-09 11:26:58] NL007 : Who said elections were rigged so that clinton would win?
[2016-11-09 11:27:01] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-09 11:27:26] NL007 : stop believing those conspiracies
[2016-11-09 11:27:38] NL007 : XD
[2016-11-09 11:36:20] micmix : NL007: Trump was saying that
[2016-11-09 11:41:26] jpc : They cldnt rig so many observers , btw it would be nice to see where they had glitches... those l
[2016-11-09 11:41:40] jpc : Those Russian hackers
[2016-11-09 11:41:42] shiroe : it doesn't go down. maybe its going up till 770 -_-
[2016-11-09 11:43:15] Bacon futures trader : These interest rates are killing me
[2016-11-09 11:48:20] TwinnerD : If I confirm a withdrawal now, will it be included in the 13:00 UTC batch?
[2016-11-09 11:48:32] Gemz : Guys am i on time for withdrawal?
[2016-11-09 11:52:03] shiroe : 70 more mins.
[2016-11-09 12:02:12] TwinnerD : shiroe: yeah but there surely is a cutoff date
[2016-11-09 12:02:37] shiroe : cutoff is 1sec before 13:00UTC
[2016-11-09 12:07:14] habibi : w3333333oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooovvvvv
[2016-11-09 12:20:49] habibi : ups, missclick :D
[2016-11-09 12:40:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3 @ 729.02 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-09 12:40:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1010 @ 729.22
[2016-11-09 12:40:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 728.58
[2016-11-09 12:41:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1049 @ 728.06
[2016-11-09 12:42:43] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-11-09 12:42:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 727.35
[2016-11-09 12:42:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6500 @ 727.87
[2016-11-09 12:44:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 726.85
[2016-11-09 12:44:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 18650 @ 726.92
[2016-11-09 12:44:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 726.88
[2016-11-09 12:45:31] chromaticcr1 : wow
[2016-11-09 12:46:23] shiroe : Here comse the train
[2016-11-09 12:46:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 70 @ 726.75
[2016-11-09 12:53:11] shifty252 : shiroe: still waitingon 720 to go long?
[2016-11-09 12:53:36] shiroe : shifty252: Yes
[2016-11-09 12:54:21] shifty252 : shiroe: thx
[2016-11-09 12:58:50] shiroe : Rekting ball..
[2016-11-09 13:02:31] Boontjie : I came in like a wrecking ball!!
[2016-11-09 13:02:41] Boontjie : Where are those REKT comments, those profound ones
[2016-11-09 13:03:12] Boontjie : [2016-11-09 10:06:50] REKT : Whoever does not take up their cross-margin and follow me is not worthy of me.
[2016-11-09 13:03:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 60 @ 726.59
[2016-11-09 13:22:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 725.63
[2016-11-09 14:25:07] raver36 : In swaps is the funding rate based on the total order value?
[2016-11-09 14:26:12] Rado : raver36: yes
[2016-11-09 14:27:29] raver36 : And where do I pay it from? Is it from my available balance or margin
[2016-11-09 14:32:01] lockhedge : raver36: if you are on cross it is payed from the account balance, if you use isolated leverage it's payed from your margin for this position afaik
[2016-11-09 14:32:21] Rado : markets opened up in the US
[2016-11-09 14:32:23] Rado : lol
[2016-11-09 14:32:32] Rado : that's why I only trade crypto now
[2016-11-09 14:33:07] Rado : stock markets gets manipulated on close and open too much
[2016-11-09 14:35:18] raver36 : lockhedge: thanks!
[2016-11-09 14:40:39] Dtrade16 : What happen to markets?
[2016-11-09 14:40:43] Dtrade16 : They recover?
[2016-11-09 14:47:39] Rado : Dtrade16: yes all the way to gren
[2016-11-09 14:48:36] thomaskikansha : S&P futures once -5% and getting green now
[2016-11-09 14:51:46] shiroe : GDFR
[2016-11-09 14:52:53] Dtrade16 : What a joke
[2016-11-09 14:53:05] Dtrade16 : Whatd I tell you guys last night
[2016-11-09 14:55:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.008507
[2016-11-09 14:55:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 724.52 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-09 14:55:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 227 @ 724.51
[2016-11-09 14:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 110617 @ 723.98 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-09 14:57:01] Rado : ops
[2016-11-09 14:57:22] shiroe : not cutloss strat? lol
[2016-11-09 14:59:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9540 @ 722.03
[2016-11-09 14:59:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 720.70
[2016-11-09 14:59:42] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-11-09 15:00:37] wilhelm : shiroe: Going long soon?
[2016-11-09 15:00:39] Rado : back to $710 I gues
[2016-11-09 15:01:38] shifty252 : shiroe: buy time?
[2016-11-09 15:02:10] Rado : why is everyone asking shiroe?
[2016-11-09 15:03:05] shifty252 : Rado: announced 720 target for long, several hours ago, just curios if he's right on his call
[2016-11-09 15:03:55] Dtrade16 : guys what about zec?
[2016-11-09 15:04:41] chromaticcr1 : as the last price told you, 0.166666, it is going to hell
[2016-11-09 15:04:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 496 @ 0.014800
[2016-11-09 15:04:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1674 @ 0.014770
[2016-11-09 15:06:34] wilhelm : Rado: Because shiroe said that he will short till 720 and start long
[2016-11-09 15:07:20] Rado : good call
[2016-11-09 15:08:27] Tetsuo : Trump your BTC before they are going to be worthless
[2016-11-09 15:09:15] Dtrade16 : you guys are long btc now?
[2016-11-09 15:11:33] Dtrade16 : Is it cause it's oversold right now?
[2016-11-09 15:11:49] shiroe : ha short closed, opened a long. thanks rekters.
[2016-11-09 15:12:27] Rado : Tetsuo: only your opinion is worthless :-)
[2016-11-09 15:14:42] shifty252 : shiroe: good call
[2016-11-09 15:15:23] shiroe : shifty252: thnx
[2016-11-09 15:15:37] lockhedge : Dtrade16: the swap would trade at a discount vs. spot (especially with high funding) if it was oversold. it's very balanced now
[2016-11-09 15:17:08] Dtrade16 : Well isn't it oversold when rsi is on the low end?
[2016-11-09 15:17:48] Dtrade16 : it's currently around 30 on bitfinex chart
[2016-11-09 15:23:52] Rado : ETH has been very predictive
[2016-11-09 15:24:04] Rado : buy the big dumps for the sure bounce
[2016-11-09 15:24:22] Rado : then sell again for the slow down drift
[2016-11-09 15:24:23] lockhedge : Dtrade16: i don't believe in technical analysis. don't think it's possible to predict the future based on a historical data set
[2016-11-09 15:25:02] Rado : lockhedge: TA is not about predicting the future
[2016-11-09 15:25:26] Rado : it's showing you people bias and money flow
[2016-11-09 15:25:55] lockhedge : it's about drawing some lines on a chart ;)
[2016-11-09 15:26:02] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-09 15:29:29] Rado : Ha ha - http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/forecast/president
[2016-11-09 15:32:33] Kalman : 15 min no trade ?!
[2016-11-09 15:32:42] Kalman : xbtusd
[2016-11-09 15:34:30] Rado : https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2146815/the-simpsons-correctly-predicted-a-donald-trump-presidency-16-years-ago-in-episode-set-in-the-near-future/
[2016-11-09 15:41:20] Jokerr : that episode was from 2015 afaik
[2016-11-09 15:43:32] Rado : was it?
[2016-11-09 15:43:50] Jokerr : jep
[2016-11-09 15:45:07] Tetsuo : no
[2016-11-09 15:45:11] lockhedge : it's from 2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_to_the_Future
[2016-11-09 16:02:00] Rado : tradeblock.com spinning for me
[2016-11-09 16:02:10] Rado : any other site that has all BTC markets
[2016-11-09 16:02:12] Rado : ?
[2016-11-09 16:31:35] Dtrade16 : prison stocks soaring lol
[2016-11-09 16:34:43] Rado : I never trade at Polo
[2016-11-09 16:34:48] Rado : can you buy BTC there?
[2016-11-09 16:49:20] CaptainDean : Rado: i think soo, see under the USD section
[2016-11-09 16:49:30] CaptainDean : looks like you can deposit USD and buy bitcoin
[2016-11-09 16:51:39] Rado : CaptainDean: cool
[2016-11-09 16:51:40] Rado : thanks
[2016-11-09 16:51:58] CaptainDean : Rado: np :D
[2016-11-09 16:54:13] skn : hey bitmex if i see a trade confirmed on the blockchain but its not refleccted on my blaance who should i contact?
[2016-11-09 16:54:33] BitMEX_Greg : skn: Hi
[2016-11-09 16:54:41] skn : a transaction i meant
[2016-11-09 16:54:49] BitMEX_Greg : skn: A deposit? Please send us a support ticket
[2016-11-09 16:55:15] Rado : Since Oct 1 I've increased my account balance by 30% trading only 5% of my BitMEX balance
[2016-11-09 16:55:56] BitMEX_Greg : Spread the word :)
[2016-11-09 16:56:27] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-09 16:56:29] Rado : will do
[2016-11-09 16:57:52] BitMEX_Greg : "I increased my trading account by 30% using only 5%, click here to find out how!"
[2016-11-09 17:00:44] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-09 17:00:57] Rado : already twitted
[2016-11-09 17:01:07] Rado : hashtag #BitMEX
[2016-11-09 17:06:05] Newmex : do the funding fees get subtrated from your PNL on a trade? or where can i see how much im paying in fees?
[2016-11-09 17:13:03] sleger : Newmex: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-09 17:23:59] shiroe : going past 5k it seems.
[2016-11-09 17:48:55] BitMEX_Greg : Rado: :+1:
[2016-11-09 18:22:02] Rado : back to boring I guess
[2016-11-09 18:22:18] Rado : this election was literary 1 day wonder
[2016-11-09 18:22:22] Rado : back to normal
[2016-11-09 18:23:03] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah I was hoping for more a brexit style 3-day drag
[2016-11-09 18:23:32] zanza : Rado its 0 sum so that means someone lost on their end when you gained
[2016-11-09 18:23:55] sleger : doubt he will tweet about that though
[2016-11-09 18:26:42] Rado : ha ha
[2016-11-09 18:35:19] rapidtrades : look at that ridiculous daily candle on usd/jpy
[2016-11-09 18:37:34] rapidtrades : look at that, sp500 erased all losses...
[2016-11-09 18:38:46] rapidtrades : seems like only yesterday I was arguing with ppl here that a trump presidency wouldn't be a disaster for markets
[2016-11-09 18:39:31] rapidtrades : oh wait...it was yesterday
[2016-11-09 18:43:06] sleger : how is your short usdjpy doing ?
[2016-11-09 18:43:25] rapidtrades : bailed at -90
[2016-11-09 18:43:40] sleger : good choice
[2016-11-09 18:43:43] sleger : cny crashing
[2016-11-09 18:43:54] rapidtrades : was very tempted to loosen sl
[2016-11-09 18:44:00] sleger : looks like the market also voted for trump after all
[2016-11-09 18:46:58] Rado : looks like CNY devaluation does not always have bullish effect for BTC
[2016-11-09 18:47:19] sleger : isnt btc going up ???
[2016-11-09 18:48:05] Rado : since yesterdays top is down $10
[2016-11-09 18:48:20] Rado : and the advance yesterday was because of election
[2016-11-09 18:54:08] BitMEX_Greg : Usual bitcoin delay after a CNY deval?
[2016-11-09 18:55:52] lockhedge : Kraken/GDAX were trading at a premium vs. China, now at a discount, so it's maybe already priced in
[2016-11-09 19:00:51] Rado : lockhedge: which website do you use to see all exchanges?
[2016-11-09 19:01:02] Rado : tradeblock is a bloated pig
[2016-11-09 19:02:26] rapidtrades : https://www.okcoin.com/marketList.do
[2016-11-09 19:02:34] rapidtrades : ^ u now what to do
[2016-11-09 19:04:57] lockhedge : Rado: tradeblock is still the most reliable external source for me. mostly using the direct feed from my bot. i would avoid using okc as data source for EU/US exchanges, costs a lot of latency if you are not based in China
[2016-11-09 19:08:42] Rado : lockhedge: thanks
[2016-11-09 20:31:04] Zen Trader : Up we go under trump no one s having any confidence in the US economy its all a show of good faith but the real sentiment in most business circles is this is gonna get ugly
[2016-11-09 20:38:21] sleger : janitor's lunch doesnt count as "business circle"
[2016-11-09 21:06:37] Rado : BitMEX_Greg: you should add commas in the display: 24H Volume12132458 Contracts
[2016-11-09 21:06:52] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: :+1:
[2016-11-09 21:06:56] Rado : like: 12,132,458 Contracts
[2016-11-09 21:07:03] Rado : ;-)
[2016-11-09 21:07:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 75005 @ 722.57 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-09 21:13:48] Dtrade16 : Isn't btc oversold here?
[2016-11-09 21:13:53] Dtrade16 : At this price range?
[2016-11-09 21:13:58] Dtrade16 : Why close a long?
[2016-11-09 21:22:05] BitMEX_Sam : Dtrade16: That's a liquidation, it was forced by the system.
[2016-11-09 21:23:32] Dtrade16 : nice
[2016-11-09 21:36:21] Dtrade16 : I think we're going back down then huh?
[2016-11-09 21:36:44] Dtrade16 : There's pretty much no reason why BTC should be at this price point if market is back to normal
[2016-11-09 21:36:59] Dtrade16 : Right? Or am I getting that wrong?
[2016-11-09 21:37:01] BitMEX_Sam : Bitcoin's definitely not rational.
[2016-11-09 21:37:20] dasdfasdf : uncorrelated
[2016-11-09 21:37:36] BitMEX_Sam : Gold is still higher than 30d ago.
[2016-11-09 21:37:38] mjones : probably drop to 4870 cny
[2016-11-09 21:39:44] Dtrade16 : gold is pretty much right where it was at
[2016-11-09 21:39:59] Dtrade16 : isn't it?
[2016-11-09 21:42:48] sleger : I don't know
[2016-11-09 21:42:50] sleger : Do I ?
[2016-11-09 21:43:36] Dtrade16 : This market is pretty inefficient or maybe that's just the nature of a currency market
[2016-11-09 21:43:49] Dtrade16 : I wasn't asking you
[2016-11-09 21:44:06] Dtrade16 : I reckon price will slide some more once china wakes up
[2016-11-09 21:44:48] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: If you refresh that number is formatted correctly, thanks for the heads up.
[2016-11-09 21:45:49] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: ?
[2016-11-09 21:45:53] Dtrade16 : Looks like it already is
[2016-11-09 21:46:09] sleger : having a monologue arent we ?
[2016-11-09 21:46:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 39200 @ 720.42 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-09 21:46:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5770 @ 720.46
[2016-11-09 21:46:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 719.68
[2016-11-09 21:46:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4040 @ 719.71
[2016-11-09 21:48:30] mjones : xmr is pumping and dumping like crazy
[2016-11-09 21:49:07] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-11-09 21:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 719.34
[2016-11-09 21:49:17] imabeast : so many leveraged longs open
[2016-11-09 21:49:18] rapidtrades : no bitcorn no
[2016-11-09 21:49:19] imabeast : bound to get rekt
[2016-11-09 21:50:23] CaptainDean : looks like a good entry to me
[2016-11-09 21:50:33] CaptainDean : "say the noob"
[2016-11-09 21:51:56] CaptainDean : unlesswe broke the last resistance (4910)
[2016-11-09 21:52:33] CaptainDean : or more 4886
[2016-11-09 21:54:25] cryptologe : eth pump incoming?
[2016-11-09 22:05:37] Dtrade16 : maybe
[2016-11-09 22:06:14] CaptainDean : there is a good correlation with ETH and BTC,
[2016-11-09 22:06:28] CaptainDean : but who knows :P
[2016-11-09 22:13:07] sleger : btc about to go up it seems
[2016-11-09 22:14:05] JamesPolo : sleger: :)
[2016-11-09 22:20:02] Dtrade16 : guys is it normal to not get all of your order filled with a stop loss?
[2016-11-09 22:21:07] Dtrade16 : Had one in place on polo and it didn't trigger for most of my funds
[2016-11-09 22:21:34] rapidtrades : Dtrade16: was it stop limit?
[2016-11-09 22:24:24] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/these-are-celebrities-who-vowed-leave-america-if-trump-wins
[2016-11-09 22:25:30] rapidtrades : http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/09/investing/wall-street-traders-boo-hillary-clinton/index.html
[2016-11-09 22:27:20] Dtrade16 : yes
[2016-11-09 22:28:29] rapidtrades : then it's normal, a stop limit guarantees the price but not the execution
[2016-11-09 22:29:41] Mm bot : ZEC pumping
[2016-11-09 22:29:50] Dtrade16 : ok thanks
[2016-11-09 22:30:59] rapidtrades : u can use a stop market instead, that guarantees the execution but not the price
[2016-11-09 22:31:06] Dtrade16 : what do I use if I want to execute for sure?
[2016-11-09 22:31:10] Dtrade16 : sell order?
[2016-11-09 22:32:08] Mm bot : ZEC pumping on Polo, dumping here :) great stuff
[2016-11-09 22:32:09] Dtrade16 : What if I wanna leave though?
[2016-11-09 22:32:54] rapidtrades : to limit the loss, stop market like i said will get u out 100%
[2016-11-09 22:33:19] Dtrade16 : polo don't have that?
[2016-11-09 22:33:21] rapidtrades : it will basically dump everything on market until ur fully executed
[2016-11-09 22:34:04] rapidtrades : that's weird...im not logged in atm, maybe someone else can check
[2016-11-09 22:34:12] Dtrade16 : ok thanks
[2016-11-09 22:34:36] rapidtrades : alternatively if u set the limit price way down it will get executed
[2016-11-09 22:34:45] rapidtrades : say 5-10% below
[2016-11-09 22:35:12] rapidtrades : *unless it's ZEC, that's a monster
[2016-11-09 22:41:55] Rado : I only use stop market here
[2016-11-09 22:41:59] Rado : I don't use stop limit
[2016-11-09 22:45:35] rapidtrades : that guy is selling at 0.12 again
[2016-11-09 22:45:45] rapidtrades : how many times do u need to get wrecked before u get a clue
[2016-11-09 22:48:00] rapidtrades : Rado: u should try that trend shit on forex
[2016-11-09 22:48:56] Rado : rapidtrades: I need to get on both forex as well as Gold and Oil futures
[2016-11-09 22:49:15] Rado : once I go on the world trip I will have more time
[2016-11-09 22:49:28] rapidtrades : do it....then you'll know the meaning of pain
[2016-11-09 22:49:36] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-09 22:49:51] Rado : rapidtrades: which broker should I use for Forex?
[2016-11-09 22:50:20] rapidtrades : idk Oanda?
[2016-11-09 22:50:44] Rado : let me check it out
[2016-11-09 22:51:10] Rado : rapidtrades: Can I deposit BTC?
[2016-11-09 22:51:19] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-11-09 22:51:27] Rado : I will be 100% in crypto soon
[2016-11-09 22:51:29] Rado : no fiat
[2016-11-09 22:51:59] rapidtrades : only semi-decent broker that takes btc is Fxopen...but they're regulated in god knows where
[2016-11-09 22:52:26] Rado : BitWage has an account where even your pay check will get transferred to BTC if you want
[2016-11-09 22:53:08] rapidtrades : keep minimum at brokers....we have high leverage in forex so no need to get MFGlobaled
[2016-11-09 22:53:27] Rado : right
[2016-11-09 22:53:36] Rado : maybe start with 1 BTC
[2016-11-09 22:54:04] rapidtrades : i meant as a % of ur risk capital, not necessarily the amount
[2016-11-09 22:54:19] Rado : right
[2016-11-09 22:54:32] Rado : like what I do in BitMEX
[2016-11-09 22:54:35] rapidtrades : in forex it's best to test the execution cos it varies a lot depending on ur strategy
[2016-11-09 22:54:47] Rado : I am right now at 0.76x Leverage
[2016-11-09 22:55:57] Rado : rapidtrades: I meant to try WhaleClub and 1broker, but there you can't hold positions overnight
[2016-11-09 22:56:10] Rado : they charge insane funding rates
[2016-11-09 22:56:31] Rado : there you can trade S&P futures, Gold, Oil and some stocks
[2016-11-09 22:56:31] rapidtrades : yeah prolly Fxopen if ur deadset to using btc for funding
[2016-11-09 22:56:54] Rado : actually 1Broker has Forex
[2016-11-09 22:57:06] Rado : but again you need to close teh position the same day
[2016-11-09 22:57:34] Rado : do you hold for more than a day sometimes?
[2016-11-09 22:57:47] rapidtrades : 90% i hold overnight
[2016-11-09 22:58:27] rapidtrades : i only use 1 intra-day system right now and will likely axe it as well
[2016-11-09 22:59:01] Rado : rapidtrades: intraday not profitable?
[2016-11-09 22:59:24] Rado : I guess only if there is a move happening
[2016-11-09 22:59:39] rapidtrades : it can be at times but it's at the expense of high account volatility
[2016-11-09 22:59:49] rapidtrades : large drawdowns
[2016-11-09 23:00:12] Rado : right
[2016-11-09 23:00:13] rapidtrades : if u go intra-day u have to tweak ur strategy a lot I think
[2016-11-09 23:00:44] Rado : rapidtrades: Is your trading automated for Forex?
[2016-11-09 23:01:08] rapidtrades : i use rules but it's not automated yet
[2016-11-09 23:01:13] Rado : k
[2016-11-09 23:01:24] rapidtrades : i plan to do it soon, will free up time :)
[2016-11-09 23:01:38] Rado : we should team up and sell the product after ;-)
[2016-11-09 23:02:01] rapidtrades : u can't sell what I have, it's fairly basic stuff :)
[2016-11-09 23:02:13] Rado : I can sell anything
[2016-11-09 23:02:55] rapidtrades : haha
[2016-11-09 23:04:02] rapidtrades : are u selling ur own bots atm?
[2016-11-09 23:05:44] Rado : yes
[2016-11-09 23:06:16] Rado : 0.086 Ƀ per month
[2016-11-09 23:06:25] Rado : I am planning to create 2-3 more bots
[2016-11-09 23:06:32] rapidtrades : dude...ur not even selling, ur renting them?
[2016-11-09 23:06:41] Rado : one specific for BTC, one for alts
[2016-11-09 23:07:04] Rado : 2-3 different strategies for alts
[2016-11-09 23:07:09] rapidtrades : $60 per month seems like a lot tbh
[2016-11-09 23:07:13] Rado : yes renting
[2016-11-09 23:07:15] rapidtrades : do u get many customers?
[2016-11-09 23:07:16] Rado : of course
[2016-11-09 23:08:16] Rado : I had 20 at one point, but they dried up since ETH not moving much now
[2016-11-09 23:08:24] rapidtrades : i'm not against selling mine but it would be like selling ice to Eskimos tbh
[2016-11-09 23:08:31] Rado : that's why I need to create some more bots so there is always one that they can rent
[2016-11-09 23:08:43] Rado : there is always XMR, ZEC or the next new coin
[2016-11-09 23:08:48] Rado : as well as BTC
[2016-11-09 23:08:52] Rado : I don't have one for BTC
[2016-11-09 23:09:31] Rado : rapidtrades: as long as there is promise that the bot can make you income every month people will try it
[2016-11-09 23:09:40] Rado : even if it's not profitable every month
[2016-11-09 23:10:00] Rado : by the way simple is better in many cases
[2016-11-09 23:10:34] rapidtrades : agree with that
[2016-11-09 23:12:29] rapidtrades : Rado: what was ur twitter?
[2016-11-09 23:12:54] Rado : CryptoAddict :-)
[2016-11-09 23:13:03] Rado : but the handle is @globallife365
[2016-11-09 23:14:17] Rado : I have another one from before, but use it more for work related stuff
[2016-11-09 23:14:25] Rado : so I created a new one for crypto
[2016-11-09 23:19:29] rapidtrades : Rado: ok will DM you to chat in private...prolly in the next few weeks
[2016-11-09 23:19:37] Rado : cool
[2016-11-09 23:19:42] rapidtrades : next week will be very busy for me
[2016-11-09 23:19:57] sleger : cause you're moving !
[2016-11-09 23:20:05] Rado : I am still working full time until the end of January
[2016-11-09 23:20:31] rapidtrades : sleger: how do u know :)
[2016-11-09 23:20:37] rapidtrades : oh yea....
[2016-11-09 23:21:02] rapidtrades : i'll have a couch too :)
[2016-11-09 23:24:02] Rado : rapidtrades: are you moving to a new city or just a new place?
[2016-11-09 23:27:05] sleger : across the campus ?
[2016-11-09 23:27:31] Rado : lol
[2016-11-09 23:27:39] Rado : how old is he?
[2016-11-09 23:29:35] sleger : 12-13
[2016-11-09 23:30:42] miramm1115 : weird, rapidtrades didn't answer with something that involves your mother and gently caress
[2016-11-09 23:31:43] l3f : GOOD MORNING
[2016-11-09 23:36:03] CaptainDean : miramm1115: fuck your mother sounds right
[2016-11-09 23:36:12] CaptainDean : miramm1115: :D
[2016-11-09 23:37:45] miramm1115 : CaptainDean: you forgot "old enough to ...
[2016-11-09 23:38:04] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-11-09 23:47:58] mjones : what happened to zec? there are only 3000 new coins a day . why is price only $282?
[2016-11-09 23:49:01] sleger : we got bored with 283 so we moved it down a bit
[2016-11-09 23:49:42] mjones : zec has been in an uptrend since trump was elected president.
[2016-11-09 23:51:12] rapidtrades : miramm1115: i was afaik
[2016-11-09 23:51:23] rapidtrades : i mean afk
[2016-11-09 23:52:15] rapidtrades : you think we'll ever see a premium on ZEC?
[2016-11-09 23:52:27] mjones : yeah
[2016-11-09 23:52:39] mjones : jk no
[2016-11-09 23:52:53] rapidtrades : asswipe
[2016-11-09 23:53:13] rapidtrades : let's assume we rally for 7+ days
[2016-11-09 23:53:25] rapidtrades : won't that shift the sentiment from bear>bull
[2016-11-09 23:53:27] mjones : lets be realistic
[2016-11-09 23:53:34] rapidtrades : jones i said assume
[2016-11-09 23:53:39] rapidtrades : u asswipe
[2016-11-09 23:57:21] zanza : rapidtrades: are you playing anything besides Cryptos now ?
[2016-11-10 00:00:07] mjones : ZEC should crash any day
[2016-11-10 00:00:47] mjones : $765,000 added to the market cap everyday
[2016-11-10 00:08:30] zanza : http://i.imgur.com/qHVEsN0.jpg
[2016-11-10 00:09:33] Jokerr : mjones: some whales trying to keep it up, wondering how long they can sustain that with exponantial rise
[2016-11-10 00:14:12] rapidtrades : tnx for the info guys
[2016-11-10 00:14:29] rapidtrades : we haven't heard enough about increasing ZEC supply in this chat
[2016-11-10 00:18:32] Jokerr : lol
[2016-11-10 00:18:52] Jokerr : did you knew block reward is increasing ?
[2016-11-10 00:18:53] Jokerr : :D:D
[2016-11-10 00:18:54] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: I love your sarcasm so much (i really do)
[2016-11-10 00:19:19] laisee : its not sarcasm w/out the /s /s
[2016-11-10 00:20:44] Rado : Nikkei up 6%
[2016-11-10 00:21:07] Rado : world loves Trump lol
[2016-11-10 00:24:10] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-11-10 00:30:53] Jokerr : rapidtrades: what are your thoughts about zcash, long :P ?
[2016-11-10 01:09:22] dasdfasdf : Public key accounts using hardware wallets would be cool. Withdrawal and deposit direct to/from hardware wallet like bitstamp, but no ID requirements
[2016-11-10 01:25:44] rapidtrades : Clinton is actually ahead in the popular vote by 200k lol
[2016-11-10 01:26:02] rapidtrades : that has to sting
[2016-11-10 01:40:29] mjones : yeah didnt rig it enough
[2016-11-10 01:41:03] rapidtrades : https://twitter.com/EqualiSea/status/796527020167593989/photo/1
[2016-11-10 01:41:20] rapidtrades : ^ liberal tears
[2016-11-10 01:41:46] rapidtrades : more https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/nov/09/donald-trump-us-election-2016-live-reactio
[2016-11-10 01:46:46] mjones : so many people gonna be deported
[2016-11-10 02:14:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 233 @ 719.76
[2016-11-10 02:44:14] rapidtrades : it's scary how consistent this rally is
[2016-11-10 02:52:00] Rado : rapidtrades: what rally
[2016-11-10 02:52:21] rapidtrades : btc
[2016-11-10 02:53:36] Rado : I was kidding
[2016-11-10 02:54:21] Rado : https://tradeblock.com/markets/stmp/xbt-usd/1d/
[2016-11-10 02:55:17] Rado : or even weekly
[2016-11-10 02:55:17] Rado : https://tradeblock.com/markets/stmp/xbt-usd/1w/
[2016-11-10 02:55:56] Tetsuo : it looks pretty bad, bull trap is about to close.
[2016-11-10 02:58:53] Rado : Tetsuo: you are funny man
[2016-11-10 03:00:07] Rado : I am sure you made money on BTC, but you also like to be gloomy
[2016-11-10 03:01:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 22717 @ 714.09 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-10 03:01:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 53078 @ 713.84 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-10 03:01:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 714.71
[2016-11-10 03:01:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 714.50
[2016-11-10 03:01:45] QuantFocus : woah
[2016-11-10 03:02:29] imabeast : wow
[2016-11-10 03:02:29] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-10 03:04:04] wilhelm : lol
[2016-11-10 03:04:18] wilhelm : Rekt came in like Rekting ballll
[2016-11-10 03:05:29] imabeast : feel like more rekt is coming
[2016-11-10 03:07:50] mjones : dang 712
[2016-11-10 03:09:34] mjones : btc movement incoming any hour now
[2016-11-10 03:10:13] Rado : recovered very quickly
[2016-11-10 03:10:23] Rado : didn't have any buys
[2016-11-10 03:10:56] j8 : 707 wick on bitstamp would have done it
[2016-11-10 03:11:15] Rado : j8: ah that's it