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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-11-08 13:08:47] arbitrage001 : whale swallowing up retrail left and right [2016-11-08 13:08:56] arbitrage001 : retail [2016-11-08 13:09:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.008636 [2016-11-08 13:10:33] wurstgelee : same for fct... [2016-11-08 13:12:07] laisee : krill - snack food for whales [2016-11-08 13:13:24] j8 : whales gotta eat too [2016-11-08 13:14:04] arbitrage001 : just swim close to them and leech some freebies [2016-11-08 13:14:16] arbitrage001 : close but not too close [2016-11-08 13:16:34] laisee : thats sucker fish ... or remora [2016-11-08 13:17:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 45 @ 705.89 [2016-11-08 13:28:02] aethlios : strong buyer at finex [2016-11-08 13:29:36] thomaskikansha : some volume happening on finex [2016-11-08 13:42:33] wurstgelee : pump ;) [2016-11-08 13:44:49] mjones : Xbt 3 month not moving up [2016-11-08 13:45:17] wurstgelee : yep [2016-11-08 13:45:19] arbitrage001 : mjones: what price do you think it should be? [2016-11-08 13:45:45] mjones : Shouldn't be a $3 gap is all i care about [2016-11-08 13:50:48] mjones : and yesterday when china was this high price was $732 [2016-11-08 13:51:41] mjones : whole orderbook is wack right now. market maker left the building [2016-11-08 14:00:47] mjones : now i have to withdraw a hour earlier? [2016-11-08 14:01:02] mjones : damn daylight saving. now i gotta wake up earlier [2016-11-08 14:01:21] mjones : 10 hours till first polls close [2016-11-08 14:05:36] yerb : I have read the XBTZ16 contract specs but I'm still sure how much % exactly I pay to open and close position, can somebody elaborate please? [2016-11-08 14:05:49] BitMEX_Greg : yerb: Hi yerb [2016-11-08 14:05:55] yerb : hi [2016-11-08 14:06:40] BitMEX_Greg : yerb: XBTZ16 offers up to 100x leverage. that means you only need to allocate a minimum of 1% to opening a position [2016-11-08 14:07:00] BitMEX_Greg : For example, lets say you want to open a 100xbt position. You only require 1 xbt of margin to do so [2016-11-08 14:07:16] yerb : alrite [2016-11-08 14:07:26] yerb : are there fees like maket and taker? [2016-11-08 14:07:34] yerb : *mak [2016-11-08 14:07:40] yerb : *maker [2016-11-08 14:07:41] BitMEX_Greg : Yes the fees are listed here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees [2016-11-08 14:08:38] yerb : alrite so thats all I pay to open position and no funding fee correct? [2016-11-08 14:09:38] BitMEX_Greg : On the trade screen, with the Place Order controls on the left hand side. You can see the "Cost: x.xxx XBT" shows you an estimate of how much margin would be allocated to that position for the given size, price and leverage that you can select in the leverage slider underneath [2016-11-08 14:10:12] yerb : alrite [2016-11-08 14:11:52] mjones : no funding on the xbtz16 [2016-11-08 14:12:17] BitMEX_Greg : Correct, XBTZ16 is a futures contract [2016-11-08 14:12:40] yerb : so its basically the same as OKC futures contract [2016-11-08 14:13:03] BitMEX_Greg : Essentially yes, it has the same expiry, however different index prices [2016-11-08 14:13:14] sleger : different leverage, fees [2016-11-08 14:13:22] j8 : 100 contracts here = 1 contract there [2016-11-08 14:13:38] yerb : yeah i see that, i was waiting for this [2016-11-08 14:13:47] yerb : thanx BitMEX team! [2016-11-08 14:14:02] BitMEX_Greg : :+1: [2016-11-08 14:14:15] j8 : yeah looks like it's had decent volume. more than the quanto's ever did [2016-11-08 14:15:38] mjones : Lots of open contracts but still 1 main market market [2016-11-08 14:16:16] yerb : yeah this one should stay for good [2016-11-08 14:16:59] yerb : but to get all the liquidity to one market maybe perpetual swap days are being counted [2016-11-08 14:18:04] yerb : i think the goal should be one good contract so that all the liquidity can be there [2016-11-08 14:19:41] jonny : trump buys zerocash [2016-11-08 14:21:23] laisee : he'd have to stop the printing presses, then, or keep buying. [2016-11-08 14:22:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 189 @ 0.015250 [2016-11-08 14:25:44] mjones : i wonder how many people like the perp swap [2016-11-08 14:27:46] Rado : sup punks [2016-11-08 14:27:51] yerb : my life is complete with XBTZ16 contract, we just need more people on it [2016-11-08 14:29:38] laisee : Rado: degen gamblerz, not punks [2016-11-08 14:29:58] Rado : he he [2016-11-08 14:30:18] Rado : I should open a course "How to trade futures on BitMEX" [2016-11-08 14:30:42] Rado : might have some success [2016-11-08 14:30:58] laisee : u firgot to add " and lose money like a noob" [2016-11-08 14:31:04] Rado : lol [2016-11-08 14:32:11] laisee : waiting for the election to provide some volatility, or at least levity [2016-11-08 14:32:39] Rado : why is BTC going up? [2016-11-08 14:32:41] aethlios : Μακε βιτμεχ γρεατ αγαιν [2016-11-08 14:32:44] BitMEX_Greg : Rado: We are putting together a teach-in video of the sort [2016-11-08 14:32:54] aethlios : Make bitmex great again!! [2016-11-08 14:33:01] Rado : BitMEX_Greg: nice [2016-11-08 14:33:11] Rado : don't make it too good [2016-11-08 14:33:32] Rado : :-) [2016-11-08 14:33:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 980 @ 711.28 [2016-11-08 14:33:38] NL007 : anybody bought ARK ico? [2016-11-08 14:33:57] Rado : NL007: not buying ICOs anymore [2016-11-08 14:34:16] Rado : until they get a real product out no reason to buy [2016-11-08 14:34:34] jeeburns : china leading the way, bitmex $10 behind china [2016-11-08 14:34:42] wow such volatility : BTC breaking out [2016-11-08 14:34:43] wurstgelee : great timinh btc....the second i lieave the office.... [2016-11-08 14:34:57] wurstgelee : *typos, fu mobile [2016-11-08 14:35:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15010 @ 711.86 [2016-11-08 14:38:57] khessabi2 : why nobody doesn't sell his ZCASH?...sell in on 135=)) thx [2016-11-08 14:39:15] khessabi2 : it* [2016-11-08 14:40:43] aethlios : btc vote for trump? [2016-11-08 14:44:06] khessabi2 : aethlios: no ,for mother teresa! :/ =)) [2016-11-08 14:46:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.015110 [2016-11-08 14:46:56] Rado : BTC it's still a good buy here [2016-11-08 14:47:06] Rado : might start a new uptrend [2016-11-08 14:48:20] laisee : cheep coins here? ZEC is a screaming buy. [2016-11-08 14:48:29] aethlios : zcash a dump train..... [2016-11-08 14:49:34] Rado : Two Topless Women Protest At Trump's Polling Station [2016-11-08 14:49:38] Rado : laisee: not yet [2016-11-08 14:50:13] laisee : 0.01? [2016-11-08 14:50:46] Rado : somewhere there, also wait for some kind of development/news [2016-11-08 14:52:09] NL007 : will hardcore trump voters expect losing an election? [2016-11-08 14:52:57] NL007 : Trump is already declaring election is rigged [2016-11-08 14:52:57] laisee : depends, do they read news anywhere but Fox? [2016-11-08 14:53:48] NL007 : *accept [2016-11-08 14:53:54] arbitrage001 : election is rigged [2016-11-08 14:53:55] laisee : if he is so good at business, why didn't he buy the POTUS job [2016-11-08 14:54:27] NL007 : arbitrage001: election isnt rigged but media is bias [2016-11-08 14:54:47] Rado : NL007: how do you know it isn't rigged? [2016-11-08 14:55:18] arbitrage001 : at least i know my country is [2016-11-08 14:55:32] NL007 : Rado: no real proof has been presented for rigging [2016-11-08 14:55:36] arbitrage001 : phantom voters with phantom vote [2016-11-08 14:56:24] Rado : NL007: no real proof, you have been indoctrinated pretty good [2016-11-08 14:56:36] NL007 : arbitrage001: you will always find a few people trying to vote twice [2016-11-08 14:56:48] Rado : everything is a conspiracy theory don't you know [2016-11-08 14:57:11] Rado : NL007: I will give you the proof [2016-11-08 14:57:18] Rado : go to callforamerica.com [2016-11-08 14:57:45] Rado : see the independant pools there and compare them to the media polls [2016-11-08 14:58:38] Rado : INDIA PM SAYS FROM MIDNIGHT, WHICH IS NOV 8, CURRENTLY ISSUED 500, 1000 RUPEE CURRENCY NOTES WILL NOT BE LEGAL TENDER [2016-11-08 14:58:56] Rado : war on cash is everywhere [2016-11-08 14:59:08] NL007 : same was said about BREXIT was rigged [2016-11-08 14:59:27] chromaticcr1 : http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/live-narendra-modis-address-to-nation/article9320548.ece [2016-11-08 14:59:52] NL007 : but exit still won and they were screaming the hardest about rigged [2016-11-08 15:00:25] laisee : bugger, I have some 500 Rupee notes [2016-11-08 15:00:27] RoftheN : Wow I made profit today, I guess I got lucky, cool [2016-11-08 15:00:42] NL007 : Rado: no cash means more control [2016-11-08 15:00:54] Rado : exactly [2016-11-08 15:01:04] Rado : globalism [2016-11-08 15:01:54] arbitrage001 : how is no cash more control? [2016-11-08 15:02:18] arbitrage001 : local can use all kind of methods [2016-11-08 15:03:23] Rado : Florida early voting surpassed entire turnout in 2000 election: 2016 – 6,424,595 2000 - 5,861,223 [2016-11-08 15:03:39] arbitrage001 : who won? [2016-11-08 15:03:51] Rado : no results yet [2016-11-08 15:04:02] arbitrage001 : think there are 3 states which decide election? [2016-11-08 15:04:10] RoftheN : Florida [2016-11-08 15:04:21] arbitrage001 : florida, ohio and Massachusetts ? [2016-11-08 15:04:49] NL007 : laisee: These notes should be exchanged in banks and post offices within December 30, 2016: PM [2016-11-08 15:05:40] laisee : NL007: thanks, will exchange on next trip [2016-11-08 15:14:20] aethlios : we are in a dehypation zcash period now. [2016-11-08 15:15:12] arbitrage001 : yes [2016-11-08 15:15:15] arbitrage001 : short it [2016-11-08 15:17:04] aethlios : I wait for the hope pump to 1 spot, 0.5 here [2016-11-08 15:17:17] Rado : aethlios: 1? [2016-11-08 15:17:25] aethlios : 1 spot [2016-11-08 15:17:26] arbitrage001 : doubt it will hit .5 anytime soon [2016-11-08 15:17:27] Rado : I don't think you will ever see 1 BTC again [2016-11-08 15:18:08] arbitrage001 : possibly fall below 0.2 tomorrow [2016-11-08 15:18:19] arbitrage001 : and below 0.15 the day after [2016-11-08 15:19:39] aethlios : 0.65 to 3.6 pump, wait for similar 0.25 to 1 pump [2016-11-08 15:20:30] arbitrage001 : aethlios: if everyone expecting it, it will probably never happen [2016-11-08 15:20:45] Rado : USDMXN new highs [2016-11-08 15:20:50] ewgwegwegweg : Guys Guys. How do i short zec? can i get profit in 1 day for example or should i wait 30 dec? [2016-11-08 15:21:04] ewgwegwegweg : if i'm totally sure it will fall [2016-11-08 15:21:11] ewgwegwegweg : tomorrow for example [2016-11-08 15:21:28] aethlios : ewgwegwegweg: it trades continuously [2016-11-08 15:21:29] Rado : ewgwegwegweg: you can, but don't do it before you make a couple of other trades [2016-11-08 15:22:00] ewgwegwegweg : so i can but and sell zecz16 easily by market price? [2016-11-08 15:22:03] ewgwegwegweg : buy* [2016-11-08 15:22:24] Rado : what do you mean by market price? [2016-11-08 15:22:47] aethlios : ewgwegwegweg: you can use limit price and you set the price you want, don't use market buy/sell [2016-11-08 15:23:28] ewgwegwegweg : thanks very much [2016-11-08 15:25:06] aethlios : ewgwegwegweg: also you pay no fees with limit price maker taker fees, check that also. [2016-11-08 15:25:32] aethlios : trade for free using maker orders [2016-11-08 15:26:15] ewgwegwegweg : so i should pick "Limit" [2016-11-08 15:26:53] aethlios : delusional bulls took a hard lesson on polo with zcash bust. [2016-11-08 15:27:10] Rado : ewgwegwegweg: yes [2016-11-08 15:27:37] ewgwegwegweg : so if i short, the limit price is the price when my order will be closed [2016-11-08 15:28:00] Rado : it will be opened at that price [2016-11-08 15:28:11] ewgwegwegweg : oh [2016-11-08 15:28:35] Rado : let say you submit a limit order to sell 2 contracts at 0.14 [2016-11-08 15:28:49] Rado : if someone buys them you are now -2 contracts at 0.14 [2016-11-08 15:28:57] Rado : then you need to buy lets say at 0.1 [2016-11-08 15:29:07] Rado : you make 0.04 per contract [2016-11-08 15:29:23] ewgwegwegweg : so i will buy them manually? [2016-11-08 15:29:35] ewgwegwegweg : when i decide the price fits for me? i will close the order? [2016-11-08 15:29:43] Rado : yes, you need to place an order to buy [2016-11-08 15:29:53] ewgwegwegweg : thanks! [2016-11-08 15:30:09] Rado : you can place it up front or wait for the price to fall and then place an order [2016-11-08 15:30:21] Rado : I will suggest that you have a stop order as well [2016-11-08 15:30:35] arbitrage001 : stop order on zcash is useless [2016-11-08 15:30:36] Rado : you might need to try trading on the testnet first [2016-11-08 15:31:11] ewgwegwegweg : thanks, found it [2016-11-08 15:31:13] aethlios : ewgwegwegweg: better experiment yourself with 1 contract, need to learn alot hoe the future market works. [2016-11-08 15:31:44] aethlios : go go zcash, pump to 1 [2016-11-08 15:35:34] mjones : damn guess someone doesnt want BTC to go up [2016-11-08 15:37:34] mjones : must be the whale with over a million btc. [2016-11-08 15:45:43] aethlios : polo pumpers make zcash great again (for a while to open a short above 0.4) [2016-11-08 15:56:26] Rado : I longed XBTUSD 708s [2016-11-08 15:56:32] Rado : stop at 700 [2016-11-08 16:00:30] mjmj83 : aethlios: I can't wait for that temp.pump. [2016-11-08 16:03:11] Rado : things don't repeat exactly as before [2016-11-08 16:03:28] rapidtrades : yeah keep buying... [2016-11-08 16:04:01] rapidtrades : anyone done SEPA from kraken? how long do they take [2016-11-08 16:04:20] rapidtrades : faq says 1-5 days, big difference [2016-11-08 16:04:40] Rado : rapidtrades: I remember it took a week for me [2016-11-08 16:04:56] rapidtrades : ur canadian mate [2016-11-08 16:05:50] rapidtrades : Rado: was it SEPA or regular bank transfer [2016-11-08 16:06:21] Rado : you are right [2016-11-08 16:06:25] Rado : it was regular [2016-11-08 16:06:41] Rado : it took them a long time to approve the account for bank transfers is what it was [2016-11-08 16:06:57] rapidtrades : ah... [2016-11-08 16:07:04] Rado : but that was in the beginning when they started accepting North America accounts [2016-11-08 16:08:25] rapidtrades : so US election huh..are u ready? [2016-11-08 16:08:49] rapidtrades : VoteCastr early vote estimate: Clinton leads in Florida [2016-11-08 16:08:59] rapidtrades : ugh that's not good [2016-11-08 16:09:18] rapidtrades : swing state, has a lot of votes [2016-11-08 16:12:34] Rado : rapidtrades: who reported this? [2016-11-08 16:13:10] rapidtrades : http://www.forexlive.com/ [2016-11-08 16:13:42] arbitrage001 : most common folk believe hillary will win [2016-11-08 16:13:46] arbitrage001 : in asia [2016-11-08 16:14:07] arbitrage001 : but then, most people dont beleive brexit will happen also [2016-11-08 16:15:14] rapidtrades : mmm brexit...that was a good night [2016-11-08 16:17:01] rapidtrades : woooo Trump voting [2016-11-08 16:17:09] rapidtrades : CNN [2016-11-08 16:24:07] RoftheN : Who's winning? [2016-11-08 16:25:13] rapidtrades : prolly no real results for 4 hrs [2016-11-08 16:25:15] RoftheN : I'm so happy that I'm not American. This choice would be too hard [2016-11-08 16:25:27] rapidtrades : still 11 am over there [2016-11-08 16:25:35] RoftheN : A bigot idiot or the most corrupt criminal that ever ran for president [2016-11-08 16:25:50] RoftheN : Who is more dangerous for the world [2016-11-08 16:26:13] RoftheN : Someone who doesn't know what he's doing or someone who knows exactly what's she doing but does it just for herself [2016-11-08 16:26:51] RoftheN : I'd probably vote what's best for bitcoin [2016-11-08 16:27:04] CaptainDean : fucksake don't vote trump please [2016-11-08 16:28:19] lockhedge : vote for the crook not the fascist [2016-11-08 16:29:03] lockhedge : (was a slogan to support Chiraq 2002 against Le Pen) [2016-11-08 16:30:24] RoftheN : Lol [2016-11-08 16:30:39] RoftheN : Is Trump a Fascist? [2016-11-08 16:32:29] Cesaroma : Buenas [2016-11-08 16:32:44] Apocalyptic : that S&P rally [2016-11-08 16:33:12] Apocalyptic : just amazing, I guess the market is all in for HRC [2016-11-08 16:34:50] rapidtrades : ZEC still getting crushed [2016-11-08 16:36:26] rapidtrades : 1.7m market cap, a joke [2016-11-08 16:36:27] arbitrage001 : -136.71% ib \\\on zec long here [2016-11-08 16:37:34] rapidtrades : lol [2016-11-08 16:38:12] RoftheN : well some estimates think 90% chance hillary wins [2016-11-08 16:38:15] RoftheN : so makes sense [2016-11-08 16:38:17] RoftheN : the market [2016-11-08 16:38:19] RoftheN : is for HRC [2016-11-08 16:42:48] NL007 : rapidtrades: many buyers lost huge on zec. Many lost trust in Zec totally. [2016-11-08 16:44:03] rapidtrades : ZEC was too hyped to be a 1.7m market cap coin [2016-11-08 16:44:14] rapidtrades : question is when it will pump not if [2016-11-08 16:48:47] Cesaroma : Bots 361? [2016-11-08 16:48:55] Cesaroma : what is bots? [2016-11-08 16:49:27] kradiav : it's short for Bearish Only Traders [2016-11-08 16:49:40] BitMEX_Greg : Cesaroma: These are traders connected to the BitMEX API, rather than logging in via the site on the front end [2016-11-08 16:54:40] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: Is entry price calculated from the Notational value? [2016-11-08 17:15:41] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: Hi, your entry price is based on the price you buy or sell at less trading fees [2016-11-08 17:22:26] mjones : Xbtz16 Orderbook is wack again [2016-11-08 17:27:30] mjones : 1 market maker = fail [2016-11-08 17:30:14] mjones : Someone just bought at $717 [2016-11-08 17:37:24] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: Apologies, fees do not affect Avg Entry Prices. The price you see is purely the price you buy / sell at. [2016-11-08 17:41:12] Cryptlex : ah, ok thanks [2016-11-08 17:47:18] Jokerr : BitMEX_Greg: When I close my position with a unrealised pnl will I receive that profit? or do I have to wait untill future time is finished? [2016-11-08 17:50:09] BitMEX_Sam : Jokerr: You will receive the profit when your position is closed or decreased. [2016-11-08 17:50:39] BitMEX_Sam : However, the unrealised profit is just a prediction based on the current mark price - if you want to exit with profit, make sure you exit at a favorable price relative to your entry [2016-11-08 17:50:55] Jokerr : Okay and it doesn't matter whether I close my position manually or that it will close automatically when contract expires? [2016-11-08 17:51:13] Jokerr : New into futures, hence my questions [2016-11-08 17:51:21] BitMEX_Greg : Correct as long as it is closed [2016-11-08 17:52:19] BitMEX_Greg : No worries, feel free to ask [2016-11-08 17:53:02] Jokerr : Great, thanks for your information! [2016-11-08 17:59:38] Jokerr : another question though, the leverage is adjustable. Normally you have to set leverage when creating your position [2016-11-08 18:00:24] Jokerr : if you see that you are in a big profit, you can just adjust leverage to a bigger number, because the chances will be smallthat you will get liquidated? [2016-11-08 18:02:05] BitMEX_Greg : So essentially yes you can increase your leverage if you have increased profits which can act like a stop [2016-11-08 18:02:40] BitMEX_Greg : however we recommend using stop orders instead as opposed to getting liquidated, given you lose your maintenance margin upon liquidation [2016-11-08 18:09:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 1638 @ 0.008747 [2016-11-08 18:13:27] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: I noticed when I short and buy back at a lower price, my realized PNL goes negative. Shouldn't it be positive? [2016-11-08 18:14:10] NL007 : @jimsciutto 34m34 minutes ago Breaking: #Trump files Nevada voting lawsuit vs. Clark County Registrar, they allege, for keeping polls open “2 hours beyond..closing time" [2016-11-08 18:14:55] NL007 : and the rigging allegations have started [2016-11-08 18:16:20] sleger : polls have not closed ??? [2016-11-08 18:16:36] arbitrage001 : sleger: still many hours away [2016-11-08 18:16:40] sleger : it's 10am in nevada [2016-11-08 18:16:47] sleger : arbitrage001: look at what nl007 wrote [2016-11-08 18:16:52] arbitrage001 : hillary should win [2016-11-08 18:17:02] sleger : no she should not, but she may [2016-11-08 18:17:12] Rado : sleger: exactly [2016-11-08 18:17:28] arbitrage001 : every person on the street in my city think she win win [2016-11-08 18:17:38] arbitrage001 : kuala lumpur here [2016-11-08 18:17:45] sleger : arbitrage001: yeah sure [2016-11-08 18:17:46] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: have you accounted for trading fees? [2016-11-08 18:18:07] arbitrage001 : betting site favor her by large margin also [2016-11-08 18:18:11] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: I was the maker, so those should help? [2016-11-08 18:18:19] arbitrage001 : 1:1.2 for hillary [2016-11-08 18:18:30] arbitrage001 : and 1: 2.4 for trump [2016-11-08 18:18:44] arbitrage001 : win/lose reward [2016-11-08 18:18:51] sleger : arbitrage001: https://electionbettingodds.com/ [2016-11-08 18:19:39] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: RealisedPNL shows the cumulative PNL, 2-/ it negative before and less negative now? Perhaps take a look at your Account Balances to give a summary or your trade history. You could have also been charged funding [2016-11-08 18:20:39] sleger : Cryptlex: also dont forget the 0.0001btc fee for every chat line you type [2016-11-08 18:21:16] BitMEX_Greg : That's untrue :) [2016-11-08 18:22:41] NL007 : sleger: lol [2016-11-08 18:23:03] arbitrage001 : the path to world war 3 ensures then if she win? [2016-11-08 18:23:41] arbitrage001 : anyone know what i can with bitcoin when nuke hit? [2016-11-08 18:23:52] arbitrage001 : what i can do [2016-11-08 18:23:53] zcashequalslambo : if you have it on paper? [2016-11-08 18:23:57] zcashequalslambo : then maybe [2016-11-08 18:23:58] zcashequalslambo : something [2016-11-08 18:24:13] zcashequalslambo : i mean paper wallety [2016-11-08 18:24:28] arbitrage001 : so keep my paper safe as the nuke approach? [2016-11-08 18:24:37] arbitrage001 : from the sky [2016-11-08 18:30:47] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Hey man, Kuala Lumpur here as well [2016-11-08 18:31:34] arbitrage001 : wilhelm: hey [2016-11-08 18:31:35] arbitrage001 : you are? [2016-11-08 18:31:36] Rado : wilhelm, arbitrage00: I will be there in March, April and May [2016-11-08 18:31:47] Rado : it will be my hub when in South East Asia [2016-11-08 18:32:13] Rado : will ping you when there [2016-11-08 18:34:33] arbitrage001 : wilhelm: are you in any crypto group in kl? [2016-11-08 18:34:53] sleger : Rado: also pink arb 001 since he is from "there" [2016-11-08 18:38:29] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Which group are you in? [2016-11-08 18:40:30] arbitrage001 : not the colbert one [2016-11-08 18:40:50] Rado : sleger: who is pinkarb001 [2016-11-08 18:40:52] arbitrage001 : g1 crypto group [2016-11-08 18:40:56] Rado : I haven't seen such a nick [2016-11-08 18:41:05] sleger : Rado: ping arbitrage001 [2016-11-08 18:41:11] Rado : oh [2016-11-08 18:41:12] arbitrage001 : wilhelm: lots of ponzi scheme pop up in the last 2 years involving bitcoin [2016-11-08 18:41:15] Rado : yes I will [2016-11-08 18:41:23] Rado : my message was for both of them [2016-11-08 18:41:24] arbitrage001 : Rado: buy me frink? [2016-11-08 18:41:27] arbitrage001 : driink [2016-11-08 18:41:30] Rado : sure [2016-11-08 18:41:32] Rado : :-) [2016-11-08 18:41:35] arbitrage001 : and girls? [2016-11-08 18:41:36] arbitrage001 : lol [2016-11-08 18:41:38] Rado : lol [2016-11-08 18:41:40] wilhelm : arbitrage001: @Rado lol [2016-11-08 18:42:05] wilhelm : arbitrage001: I think it's a secret group, couldn't find it [2016-11-08 18:42:24] wilhelm : Rado: Guess we'll see you in 2017 then [2016-11-08 18:42:25] arbitrage001 : who introduce you btc? [2016-11-08 18:43:04] wilhelm : arbitrage001: I found about it 4 years ago [2016-11-08 18:43:12] arbitrage001 : a llong time [2016-11-08 18:43:18] wilhelm : arbitrage001: But only started buying it this year [2016-11-08 18:43:43] arbitrage001 : a bit late if you are investing [2016-11-08 18:43:56] arbitrage001 : but for gambling, never too late to lose it all [2016-11-08 18:44:16] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Yea, that's why I am in bitmex haha [2016-11-08 18:44:55] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Holding on to bitcoin too because I may not have such high hope for fiat for the moment. [2016-11-08 18:45:14] arbitrage001 : and holding btc is safer? [2016-11-08 18:45:27] wilhelm : arbitrage001: How about you? [2016-11-08 18:45:33] arbitrage001 : well, ringgit lose over 40% last year alone i think [2016-11-08 18:45:55] arbitrage001 : suddenly, everyone is 40% poorer [2016-11-08 18:46:02] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Definitely not safer but I am "investing" on it. [2016-11-08 18:46:07] arbitrage001 : on top of higher tax [2016-11-08 18:46:16] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Living expenses still going up man [2016-11-08 18:46:29] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Been trying to rake in tech projects from singapore for currency sake [2016-11-08 18:46:47] arbitrage001 : you are a project manager? [2016-11-08 18:47:35] arbitrage001 : didnt know IT market in KL is well developed [2016-11-08 18:47:39] wilhelm : arbitrage001: I am a developer/designer, I do freelance on the side. But I run a startup "incubator" as my main. [2016-11-08 18:48:16] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Still growing I guess, but we have huge shortage of talents here [2016-11-08 18:48:24] arbitrage001 : is it? [2016-11-08 18:48:37] wilhelm : arbitrage001: yeaps. Well funded startups are inflating their salaries. [2016-11-08 18:48:40] arbitrage001 : i know many IT graduate cant find work [2016-11-08 18:48:55] wilhelm : shortage of "competent talents" [2016-11-08 18:49:21] wilhelm : it's either that, or it's just that my social circle isn't looking in the right places [2016-11-08 18:49:41] arbitrage001 : what skill set you normally look for? [2016-11-08 18:49:53] wilhelm : Web and Mobile Technologies [2016-11-08 18:49:57] arbitrage001 : and what does competent mean? [2016-11-08 18:50:13] wilhelm : Ability to Deliver [2016-11-08 18:50:43] laisee : talent pool is not so developed in MY, better in VN, Phils [2016-11-08 18:51:43] arbitrage001 : i know many senior developers here have low salary [2016-11-08 18:51:53] arbitrage001 : cant even afford to buy a house [2016-11-08 18:51:58] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Around what range? [2016-11-08 18:52:10] arbitrage001 : 3-8k [2016-11-08 18:52:18] arbitrage001 : guess some are just luck [2016-11-08 18:52:34] arbitrage001 : being with the right company [2016-11-08 18:52:40] wilhelm : arbitrage001: 8k - 10k is what they ask for most of the time [2016-11-08 18:52:49] wilhelm : arbitrage001: yea, the right company [2016-11-08 18:53:15] wilhelm : arbitrage001: but most good developers I know prefer to be freelancers, living the nomad lifestyl [2016-11-08 18:53:24] arbitrage001 : same here [2016-11-08 18:53:31] arbitrage001 : trading for a living [2016-11-08 18:53:52] arbitrage001 : can move to another 3rd world hole anytime [2016-11-08 18:54:14] wilhelm : arbitrage001: You in the tech industry? [2016-11-08 18:54:19] arbitrage001 : was [2016-11-08 18:54:52] arbitrage001 : figure i dont like doing it [2016-11-08 18:55:00] arbitrage001 : suck wasted my time [2016-11-08 18:55:08] donkey : i used to be a dev.. [2016-11-08 18:55:13] donkey : then i bought bitcoin [2016-11-08 18:55:19] arbitrage001 : and? [2016-11-08 18:55:26] donkey : now im no longer a dev [2016-11-08 18:55:26] arbitrage001 : rich now and dont need to work? [2016-11-08 18:55:33] wilhelm_ : arbitrage001 ahh.. you trading fulltime now? [2016-11-08 18:55:36] wilhelm_ : Hahahaha [2016-11-08 18:55:50] arbitrage001 : wilhelm_: not full time, just trading here and there [2016-11-08 18:56:02] arbitrage001 : since the cost of living here is so low [2016-11-08 18:56:10] arbitrage001 : and i dont have family [2016-11-08 18:56:50] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Do you trade solo? [2016-11-08 18:56:58] arbitrage001 : of course [2016-11-08 18:57:06] laisee : Vietnam is good location also, cheap and good food + plenty of wifi [2016-11-08 18:57:07] arbitrage001 : what other method would it be? [2016-11-08 18:57:11] arbitrage001 : group trading? [2016-11-08 18:57:24] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Idk man, I hear about those fishy social trading shit around nowadays [2016-11-08 18:57:28] arbitrage001 : laisee: how much is the cost of living? [2016-11-08 18:57:36] donkey : circle jerk trading? [2016-11-08 18:57:43] laisee : cheaper than KL [2016-11-08 18:57:49] wilhelm : laisee: are you in vn now? [2016-11-08 18:58:06] laisee : no, Singapore [2016-11-08 18:58:19] arbitrage001 : laisee: how is singapore ? [2016-11-08 18:58:25] arbitrage001 : mood among singaporean [2016-11-08 18:58:33] wilhelm : donkey: What's circle jerk? [2016-11-08 18:58:41] donkey : lol [2016-11-08 18:58:44] laisee : its ok, economy is lsowing down a bit [2016-11-08 18:59:26] laisee : ^slowing^ [2016-11-08 18:59:37] arbitrage001 : yea, which country isnt [2016-11-08 18:59:41] laisee : but IT and finance are doing Ok [2016-11-08 19:00:01] wilhelm : arbitrage001: China tho [2016-11-08 19:00:33] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Creating Mini Chinas around ASEAN [2016-11-08 19:00:38] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Scary [2016-11-08 19:00:54] arbitrage001 : dont understand what you mean [2016-11-08 19:03:31] arbitrage001 : wilhelm: how long have you been here on bitmex? [2016-11-08 19:03:43] arbitrage001 : doing well? losing a ton? [2016-11-08 19:03:54] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Influx of chinese [2016-11-08 19:04:11] wilhelm : arbitrage001: been here for a few months, but I came back a week ago after a month break [2016-11-08 19:04:41] arbitrage001 : what happen? [2016-11-08 19:04:52] arbitrage001 : win too mh? lose too much? [2016-11-08 19:04:55] wilhelm : Remember the bitfinex hack? [2016-11-08 19:05:11] arbitrage001 : yea [2016-11-08 19:05:16] wilhelm : I made a ton back then, 3 fold my capital. But then I made a wrong call after that. Lost it all [2016-11-08 19:05:26] wilhelm : Lol [2016-11-08 19:05:34] arbitrage001 : still have 30% of my money stucked there [2016-11-08 19:05:49] wilhelm : Thought I took good advantage of the crash, but did not get out of it well. [2016-11-08 19:05:57] arbitrage001 : what happen [2016-11-08 19:05:59] wilhelm : arbitrage001: damn, unable to get it out? [2016-11-08 19:06:03] arbitrage001 : you sold your token? [2016-11-08 19:06:21] arbitrage001 : holding the damn tokens [2016-11-08 19:06:33] arbitrage001 : price was at 0.56 earlier [2016-11-08 19:06:44] wilhelm : arbitrage001: I decided to long at x100, right after I make the money. But it crashed 10usd down and the rest is history. [2016-11-08 19:06:57] arbitrage001 : eth? [2016-11-08 19:07:00] wilhelm : btc [2016-11-08 19:07:15] wilhelm : It was a reckless mistake. [2016-11-08 19:07:19] rapidtrades : what a tool [2016-11-08 19:07:50] wilhelm : rapidtrades: ikr [2016-11-08 19:07:54] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: you call everyone a tool? [2016-11-08 19:08:11] wilhelm : arbitrage001: All of us are at some point. [2016-11-08 19:08:33] arbitrage001 : wilhelm: you must be new to trading if you use 100x [2016-11-08 19:09:22] wilhelm : arbitrage001: yea, learnt my lesson. I am pretty new [2016-11-08 19:09:43] arbitrage001 : you know most traders lose money,? [2016-11-08 19:09:48] wilhelm : arbitrage001: How long have you been trading? [2016-11-08 19:09:50] arbitrage001 : even experience one [2016-11-08 19:09:52] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Yea [2016-11-08 19:10:10] arbitrage001 : over 15 years [2016-11-08 19:10:23] arbitrage001 : got blown up in 2008 [2016-11-08 19:10:29] arbitrage001 : have to start over [2016-11-08 19:10:45] wilhelm : arbitrage001: You started young? [2016-11-08 19:10:49] arbitrage001 : yes [2016-11-08 19:10:57] arbitrage001 : was a degenerate gambler [2016-11-08 19:11:04] arbitrage001 : even as a kid [2016-11-08 19:11:18] BitMEX_Greg : laisee: Where abouts in Singapore are you? I used to live there [2016-11-08 19:11:36] wilhelm : arbitrage001: Interesting story [2016-11-08 19:11:50] wilhelm : arbitrage001: What happened? [2016-11-08 19:11:57] arbitrage001 : wilhelm: odd for you to win here to very small [2016-11-08 19:12:07] arbitrage001 : need to have the right mindset as a trader [2016-11-08 19:12:14] arbitrage001 : most dont [2016-11-08 19:13:03] wilhelm : arbitrage001: How do you personally define "Right Mindset" ? [2016-11-08 19:13:26] arbitrage001 : not sure [2016-11-08 19:13:39] arbitrage001 : when a person talk, you can pretty much figure his mindset [2016-11-08 19:14:06] arbitrage001 : and how likely he can survive as a trader [2016-11-08 19:14:21] wilhelm : arbitrage001: personally am working on delay gratification, I think that's one of the things to improve my mindset [2016-11-08 19:14:27] wilhelm : arbitrage001: ahh.. [2016-11-08 19:14:36] wilhelm : delayed* [2016-11-08 19:14:47] arbitrage001 : trading is not investing [2016-11-08 19:14:48] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: oh yea? [2016-11-08 19:14:56] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yes, baby [2016-11-08 19:15:05] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: i feel your pain on zcash too [2016-11-08 19:15:28] rapidtrades : so in ur opinion who has the right mindset in here? [2016-11-08 19:15:36] arbitrage001 : o well [2016-11-08 19:15:40] arbitrage001 : not hard to tell, isnt it [2016-11-08 19:16:08] arbitrage001 : since you are here longer than me [2016-11-08 19:16:24] arbitrage001 : and how many new alias you see here last longer than 6 months [2016-11-08 19:16:35] wilhelm : arbitrage001: lol [2016-11-08 19:16:46] wilhelm : how long have you been here? [2016-11-08 19:16:54] arbitrage001 : jan this year [2016-11-08 19:22:31] jung1 : hello there [2016-11-08 19:26:48] sleger : hey liskboy [2016-11-08 19:36:25] Cryptlex : hi [2016-11-08 19:40:34] hhhhh : ZCash is on the rise. BUY now [2016-11-08 19:46:39] CaptainDean : don't we have an admin to stop those BUY BUY BUY spam ? [2016-11-08 19:46:39] cryptobull : ZCash is on the rise. BUY now or CRY later :D [2016-11-08 19:48:37] BitMEX_Greg : haha I wouldn't really call that spammy [2016-11-08 19:49:14] cryptobull : spam is multiple posts from same person isn't it? [2016-11-08 19:49:27] CaptainDean : Trying to influnce poeple to buy based on jackshit it's pretty much spam [2016-11-08 19:49:43] BitMEX_Greg : I wouldn't consider 1 post spam [2016-11-08 19:49:58] BitMEX_Greg : Otherwise pretty much everyone in here would be banned lol [2016-11-08 19:50:19] hhhhh : BitMEX_Greg: lmfao you are the man :) [2016-11-08 19:50:31] cryptobull : lol [2016-11-08 19:51:04] zcashET : buy btcusd [2016-11-08 19:51:08] NL007 : Trump suing Nevada over allowing people who were waiting in line to vote during early voting. [2016-11-08 19:51:29] NL007 : @RalstonReports Judge reads lawsuit and says, in disbelief, "What are you asking for?" [2016-11-08 19:51:52] arbitrage001 : they must be voting for hillary? [2016-11-08 19:52:20] arbitrage001 : this guy some how figure out early voter \\ hillary supporter? [2016-11-08 19:52:28] arbitrage001 : == [2016-11-08 19:52:28] zcashET : buy xbtusd [2016-11-08 19:52:39] NL007 : arbitrage001: yes [2016-11-08 19:52:55] NL007 : even the judge is like WTF [2016-11-08 19:53:04] CaptainDean : it's call Ticker spam [2016-11-08 19:53:20] hhhhh : zcashET: stop manipulating the hell out fo the maket :) [2016-11-08 19:53:24] CaptainDean : guys sell Zec it's giong down now [2016-11-08 19:53:30] Dtrade16 : Guys what can we expect BTC to be at after election? [2016-11-08 19:53:45] Dtrade16 : It's pretty obv crooked hillary is going to win [2016-11-08 19:54:35] Dtrade16 : It's gotta go down right? [2016-11-08 19:54:39] BitMEX_Greg : CaptainDean: You are warned :P [2016-11-08 19:54:45] zcashET : thats why trump is there to maKE SURE HILLARY WINS, IT WAS A SETUP for hiim to be rep candidate by reps allied to democrats [2016-11-08 19:55:01] zcashET : read between the crimes [2016-11-08 19:55:13] Dtrade16 : Yah great [2016-11-08 19:55:20] Dtrade16 : I don't really care about that right now [2016-11-08 19:55:29] Dtrade16 : Wanna know where this thing is gonna be at [2016-11-08 19:55:46] zcashET : .. [2016-11-08 19:55:47] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Greg: I'm sure you got my point, end of my complaint ;-) [2016-11-08 19:56:26] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah I know, don't worry we won't let the trollbox turn into a spamfest [2016-11-08 19:57:08] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Greg: thank you ! [2016-11-08 19:57:13] zcashET : BitMEX_Greg: you guys are smart for creating this [2016-11-08 19:57:19] BitMEX_Greg : :+1: [2016-11-08 19:57:28] zcashET : like super intelligent [2016-11-08 19:58:17] zcashET : im in awe of this whole crypto movement