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[2016-11-07 18:08:54] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: you were long when it went up and short when it went up?
[2016-11-07 18:09:03] RoftheN : Not all k
[2016-11-07 18:09:14] RoftheN : I was short when it went up
[2016-11-07 18:09:17] RoftheN : often
[2016-11-07 18:09:32] RoftheN : The amazing pump th
[2016-11-07 18:09:33] arbitrage001 : shorting alt always dangerous
[2016-11-07 18:09:34] RoftheN : I was shorting it
[2016-11-07 18:09:40] RoftheN : Learned my lesson
[2016-11-07 18:09:43] Tetsuo : this time go long
[2016-11-07 18:09:49] arbitrage001 : whale make money off retail trader
[2016-11-07 18:09:49] RoftheN : Now I won't use signicant amounts doing that
[2016-11-07 18:09:56] Tetsuo : do it
[2016-11-07 18:10:30] RoftheN : They should have waited with removing LISK for like a week, this one was so obvious
[2016-11-07 18:11:40] arbitrage001 : not many were trading it, so it wasnt obvious
[2016-11-07 18:13:02] Tetsuo : also new ATL FOR 1w RSI LTC/BTC, @RoftheN so u should start buyin now!
[2016-11-07 18:13:28] Tetsuo : before it get´s delisted
[2016-11-07 18:13:31] Tetsuo : :-(
[2016-11-07 18:13:39] RoftheN : Oh okay
[2016-11-07 18:13:46] RoftheN : What's RSI?
[2016-11-07 18:14:19] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: what do you based your trading decision on?
[2016-11-07 18:15:35] Tetsuo : trollbox, ponzi newsletters just the usual stuff i guess
[2016-11-07 18:16:05] RoftheN : on stupidity, why?
[2016-11-07 18:16:34] RoftheN : What should I base it on?
[2016-11-07 18:16:52] Tetsuo : black witchery
[2016-11-07 18:17:29] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: you are gambling blindly?
[2016-11-07 18:17:46] RoftheN : Oh I wouldn't call it gambling, with gambling you have like a 49% chance you win
[2016-11-07 18:17:51] RoftheN : I suck so much my chances of winning are like 20%
[2016-11-07 18:18:08] RoftheN : And I rationalize it all with saying I 'm learning from my mistakes and one day might become better
[2016-11-07 18:18:08] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-07 18:18:13] arbitrage001 : a casino gives you better odd
[2016-11-07 18:18:25] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-11-07 18:18:50] RoftheN : But gambling is kinda boring
[2016-11-07 18:18:52] RoftheN : this is more fun
[2016-11-07 18:19:39] RoftheN : So Mr non-gambler, what do you base your trades on?
[2016-11-07 18:20:01] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: traders usually have their own system
[2016-11-07 18:20:33] arbitrage001 : some based on technical, some on astrology, some on gut feeling
[2016-11-07 18:26:49] RoftheN : Im asking about yours
[2016-11-07 18:26:50] RoftheN : And
[2016-11-07 18:26:59] RoftheN : astrology and gut feeling sounds more liek gambling to me
[2016-11-07 18:29:31] arbitrage001 : 90% of traders lose money
[2016-11-07 18:30:57] wurstgelee : funny, i was wondering about that just a few hours ago
[2016-11-07 18:31:53] wurstgelee : percentage of profitable traders vover the last 2-3 years
[2016-11-07 18:31:57] wurstgelee : *-v
[2016-11-07 18:32:21] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: i just made up that number
[2016-11-07 18:32:21] wurstgelee : i remember some being successful for a few months and going down in flames....
[2016-11-07 18:32:37] arbitrage001 : but most articles quote this figure
[2016-11-07 18:32:37] wurstgelee : yeah, but my assumption is 10% as well
[2016-11-07 18:32:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 18:32:59] arbitrage001 : and of those 10% that make profit, maybe only 1-2% make it worth while
[2016-11-07 18:33:08] arbitrage001 : the rest better off working atmcdonals
[2016-11-07 18:33:17] arbitrage001 : at mcdonalds
[2016-11-07 18:33:32] wurstgelee : i wouldnt want to do this for a living tbh
[2016-11-07 18:33:47] arbitrage001 : depend on personality
[2016-11-07 18:33:52] arbitrage001 : some people enjoy it
[2016-11-07 18:33:58] arbitrage001 : seem to me you enjoy doing it
[2016-11-07 18:34:10] wurstgelee : yeah maybe. but i prefer the security of a bill-paying job
[2016-11-07 18:34:24] arbitrage001 : but once you have big enough nest?
[2016-11-07 18:34:26] wurstgelee : keeps the pressure low, ensures the fun part in it
[2016-11-07 18:34:54] wurstgelee : dunno, i'll see when and if (really big if) that time ever comes
[2016-11-07 18:34:55] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 18:39:11] RoftheN : It doesn't make sense that the vast majority of traders lose money
[2016-11-07 18:39:33] RoftheN : Won't thjey stop being a trader once they lost everything and only leave those who win left to be a trader?
[2016-11-07 18:39:44] Tetsuo : fresh idiots come in
[2016-11-07 18:39:50] Tetsuo : on a regular basis
[2016-11-07 18:39:55] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: new suckers born every min?
[2016-11-07 18:40:04] RoftheN : oh like me
[2016-11-07 18:40:05] RoftheN : Makes sense
[2016-11-07 18:40:18] Tetsuo : RoftheN: :-)
[2016-11-07 18:40:29] RoftheN : So how do I become the 10%
[2016-11-07 18:40:36] Tetsuo : RoftheN: tryin
[2016-11-07 18:40:42] RoftheN : I am
[2016-11-07 18:49:32] wurstgelee : also use small stakes
[2016-11-07 18:49:39] wurstgelee : and/or maybe bitmex testnet
[2016-11-07 18:53:26] RoftheN : oh yeah I should use the testnet
[2016-11-07 18:53:45] RoftheN : Well I don't have much money so I can't use high stakes anwway
[2016-11-07 18:53:50] RoftheN : I already lost most of it haha
[2016-11-07 18:54:36] sleger : hahaha
[2016-11-07 18:56:13] RoftheN : But yeah I mean it was only borrowed money so why should I care
[2016-11-07 18:57:08] wurstgelee : so you dont know what youre doing while trading borrowed money here? oO
[2016-11-07 18:57:45] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-11-07 18:58:03] wurstgelee : great plan
[2016-11-07 18:58:04] RoftheN : Borrowed from the government
[2016-11-07 18:58:12] RoftheN : to pay for my study
[2016-11-07 18:58:30] sleger : looks like you havent learned much
[2016-11-07 18:58:53] sleger : which university are you going to ?
[2016-11-07 18:59:03] RoftheN : University of Amsterdam
[2016-11-07 18:59:12] RoftheN : is very cheap so don't need all this money the government offers me
[2016-11-07 18:59:16] sleger : too much smoking not enough learning
[2016-11-07 18:59:26] Transisto2 : test
[2016-11-07 18:59:27] RoftheN : Not a fan of weed, it's boring
[2016-11-07 18:59:41] sleger : and you dont need to reimburse that money ?
[2016-11-07 18:59:48] RoftheN : Not anytime soon
[2016-11-07 18:59:55] RoftheN : and only if I get a job
[2016-11-07 18:59:56] sleger : but eventually
[2016-11-07 19:00:10] sleger : so somehow you're losing your own money here
[2016-11-07 19:00:11] RoftheN : Best debt ever
[2016-11-07 19:00:26] RoftheN : Well in a way, but the thing is, if I don't have it I don't have to pay it back
[2016-11-07 19:00:39] RoftheN : So I'm just gonna go for it, get rich or get poor, aslong as I'm not average
[2016-11-07 19:00:43] sleger : and there is no recourse ?
[2016-11-07 19:00:50] numero : :)
[2016-11-07 19:01:06] RoftheN : Not really no, but as soon as I get a job I'll have to pay so I guess I will have to stay jobless
[2016-11-07 19:01:18] sleger : sounds great
[2016-11-07 19:01:22] Tetsuo : winwin
[2016-11-07 19:01:27] RoftheN : Besrt thing is, the interest of the debt is 0.01% this year, and 0% next year
[2016-11-07 19:01:30] RoftheN : which is amazing
[2016-11-07 19:01:44] RoftheN : too bad there's a maximum of 1000 euros per month
[2016-11-07 19:01:56] sleger : and who's gonna pay for your parents retirement ?
[2016-11-07 19:02:33] RoftheN : They invested in 65+ money thingies and will sell their house and buy some Camper so they'll be fine
[2016-11-07 19:02:34] Tetsuo : you!
[2016-11-07 19:03:15] sleger : great thinking @RoftheN
[2016-11-07 19:03:18] Tetsuo : RoftheN: ask them to lend you some money and say you´re gonna double it
[2016-11-07 19:03:33] RoftheN : Too bad they want to spend it all and not give me a nice inheriteance
[2016-11-07 19:03:40] numero : seriously though, the incentive for youth to get a job is non-existent
[2016-11-07 19:03:54] sleger : RoftheN: they dont deserve such a good child as yourself !!
[2016-11-07 19:04:03] RoftheN : I grew up with very high dopamine video games and porn. I do not have the discipline to get a job
[2016-11-07 19:04:30] Tetsuo : RoftheN: crypto scene welcomes you!
[2016-11-07 19:04:32] sleger : yes let those other idiots who spent time study in school work their asses off !
[2016-11-07 19:04:40] numero : why work for the government when the government can work for you?
[2016-11-07 19:04:46] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-11-07 19:04:50] RoftheN : But I like studying
[2016-11-07 19:04:53] RoftheN : it's fun and interesting
[2016-11-07 19:05:00] RoftheN : I'll try to be a student for 10 years
[2016-11-07 19:05:04] RoftheN : And build up my debt
[2016-11-07 19:05:55] RoftheN : Then stay jobless and hope I earned some money trading and investing in cryptocurrencies and get lucky so that i can live rich without a job, that's my dream
[2016-11-07 19:06:25] RoftheN : Still better odds than buying lottery tickets
[2016-11-07 19:06:39] sleger : and the only thing I want is marry jessica alba, that's not much to ask for, is it ?
[2016-11-07 19:06:49] RoftheN : Well did you ask her yet?
[2016-11-07 19:07:01] sleger : she wont take my phone call
[2016-11-07 19:07:21] sleger : and she keeps calling the police when i wait in front of her house
[2016-11-07 19:07:27] sleger : although I try to be discreet !!
[2016-11-07 19:07:40] RoftheN : Why not just hire some people to do that for you
[2016-11-07 19:07:43] Tetsuo : she just shy
[2016-11-07 19:07:50] RoftheN : You must be the 10%
[2016-11-07 19:07:52] RoftheN : so you must be rich
[2016-11-07 19:08:00] wurstgelee : yeah, prob just shy
[2016-11-07 19:08:08] sleger : yes but she has money too so she is not like other women
[2016-11-07 19:08:57] sleger : sometimes when i manage to get inside her house, at night, I just look at her when she is sleeping, so cute... and yes she is just too shy I know it
[2016-11-07 19:09:22] sleger : instead of money i just want the government to let me make a clone of her.
[2016-11-07 19:09:35] RoftheN : But cloning will take 18 years unless you're a pedophile
[2016-11-07 19:10:36] sleger : didnt think about that
[2016-11-07 19:11:52] RoftheN : I'm gonna google who this Alba is
[2016-11-07 19:12:06] RoftheN : Oh isn't she that actress in that movie
[2016-11-07 19:12:12] RoftheN : She was soooo hot in it
[2016-11-07 19:13:00] wurstgelee : sin city? assless chaps?
[2016-11-07 19:13:05] wurstgelee : just a wild guess
[2016-11-07 19:13:08] RoftheN : Sin city yes
[2016-11-07 19:13:26] RoftheN : If I ever will rewatch that movie it's just because I want to see her
[2016-11-07 19:13:31] wurstgelee : somehow everyone knows that scene
[2016-11-07 19:13:33] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 19:15:42] RoftheN : Wurstgelee you're a smart person. I get 1000 euros every month that I can invest, minus 100 for things like food, how should I invest?
[2016-11-07 19:17:07] Tetsuo : 100$ for food seems a bit much to me, can´t you live on 10 $?
[2016-11-07 19:17:16] RoftheN : It's per month, not per day
[2016-11-07 19:17:21] Tetsuo : more to invest in altcoins, that are the future
[2016-11-07 19:17:37] Tetsuo : RoftheN: i was talkin bout month
[2016-11-07 19:17:38] RoftheN : I can only eat 10 days per month since I eat 10 euros per day
[2016-11-07 19:17:50] RoftheN : I love salmon
[2016-11-07 19:17:54] RoftheN : but so expensive
[2016-11-07 19:17:56] Tetsuo : RoftheN: eat rice only, buy more ETC;XMR;LTC
[2016-11-07 19:18:07] RoftheN : Okay will buy ETC and LTC
[2016-11-07 19:18:09] RoftheN : but I will never buy XMR
[2016-11-07 19:18:13] numero : RoftheN: thats what the foodbank is for ;)
[2016-11-07 19:18:20] RoftheN : OH YEAH
[2016-11-07 19:18:23] RoftheN : I forgot
[2016-11-07 19:18:26] RoftheN : I should go there
[2016-11-07 19:18:31] RoftheN : do they have high quality salmon?
[2016-11-07 19:18:47] numero : RoftheN: no, mostly staples
[2016-11-07 19:19:36] RoftheN : Damn, those greedy bastards
[2016-11-07 19:19:59] numero : RoftheN: surprise, surprise, we are the filthiest ones here
[2016-11-07 19:20:02] RoftheN : I was also thinking abuot investing in like the stock market, but idk how
[2016-11-07 19:20:30] numero : RoftheN: its easy, short companies that supply the fracking industry
[2016-11-07 19:21:01] RoftheN : But my dad's job is in that industry I think
[2016-11-07 19:21:04] numero : I'm gonna profit from the destruction of the world
[2016-11-07 19:21:17] numero : and that's really all there is to it
[2016-11-07 19:21:37] RoftheN : I'll short it when my dad stops working there, without my dad it will go out of business in no time
[2016-11-07 19:22:37] Tetsuo : bookbinding business?
[2016-11-07 19:23:04] RoftheN : Sounds boring
[2016-11-07 19:23:05] Tetsuo : industrial blacksmith?
[2016-11-07 19:27:16] numero : I actually am a market gardener
[2016-11-07 19:27:32] RoftheN : Oh
[2016-11-07 19:27:34] RoftheN : how does that work?
[2016-11-07 19:27:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.008331
[2016-11-07 19:28:02] numero : I grow food, appreciative locals pay me in fiat for the food
[2016-11-07 19:28:26] numero : I also barter with the other craftspeople at the market
[2016-11-07 19:28:59] RoftheN : Do you offer payment in bitcoin?
[2016-11-07 19:29:04] numero : but before that becomes really important, I'm going to profit from the breakdown of the capital markets
[2016-11-07 19:29:22] numero : absolutely not, I think the internet will be gone completely by 2050
[2016-11-07 19:29:42] RoftheN : but do you need the
[2016-11-07 19:29:44] RoftheN : internet for bitcoin
[2016-11-07 19:29:48] sleger : which country ? @numero
[2016-11-07 19:29:52] RoftheN : Just put them on hardware and sell the hardware
[2016-11-07 19:29:56] Apocalyptic : "I'm going to profit from the breakdown of the capital markets" sounds like a solid plan
[2016-11-07 19:29:57] numero : sleger: does it matter?
[2016-11-07 19:30:44] micmix : you can use bitcoin without the internet, just send signed transactions to nodes via snail mail
[2016-11-07 19:31:28] micmix : if postal service breaks down you can use pigeons
[2016-11-07 19:31:34] numero : interesting
[2016-11-07 19:31:41] Apocalyptic : micmix: or broadcast by radio
[2016-11-07 19:32:11] numero : still stored on fragile technical infrastrucure though no?
[2016-11-07 19:32:12] RoftheN : lol
[2016-11-07 19:32:34] Apocalyptic : there's even a project for that: https://github.com/osh/gr-bitcoin
[2016-11-07 19:32:54] sleger : numero: i was wondering in which country one can does what you are doing
[2016-11-07 19:33:43] numero : sleger: Canada, but it's just now becoming economically feasible
[2016-11-07 19:33:46] micmix : Apocalyptic: very interesting idea
[2016-11-07 19:34:02] RoftheN : Lol
[2016-11-07 19:34:06] RoftheN : But
[2016-11-07 19:34:12] micmix : numero: oh cool, I love our local market here in Ottawa
[2016-11-07 19:34:21] RoftheN : Won't the idiotic Trump save the world with his idocracy?
[2016-11-07 19:35:20] numero : micmix: byward :)
[2016-11-07 19:35:29] numero : ?
[2016-11-07 19:35:47] micmix : I buy almost all meat and vegetables from local farmers, too bad noone accepts bitcoin
[2016-11-07 19:36:31] numero : yes, I hope you can understand that profit margins are so thin, processing and tax fees must be minimized ;)
[2016-11-07 19:37:02] numero : i guess bitcoin would be ok for that . . .
[2016-11-07 19:37:12] numero : differnet skill set from most market gardeners though
[2016-11-07 19:38:04] micmix : so you're on byward market? I probably bought some stuff from you ;-)
[2016-11-07 19:38:37] numero : haha, no I'm not at byward . . . thank you for supporting your local food producers though
[2016-11-07 19:40:02] micmix : yeah, it's more expensive but quality so much better than supermarket junk
[2016-11-07 19:41:02] numero : hard to beat quality
[2016-11-07 19:47:22] NL007 : zec futures are not moving a lot
[2016-11-07 19:49:27] kradiav : noone wants to touch a rotten fish
[2016-11-07 19:58:10] PoloniexCEO : Zec going up to 1m :)
[2016-11-07 20:03:36] CapitalGains : 1 million satoshis
[2016-11-07 20:05:07] mjones : Lol that zec wall on here
[2016-11-07 20:05:24] mjones : Was 114 someone took it down
[2016-11-07 20:07:04] sleger : that someone is building a short
[2016-11-07 20:08:11] sleger : going to be a nice rekt
[2016-11-07 20:08:22] JamesPolo : Hows does btc price here compared to bitfinex ?
[2016-11-07 20:08:31] wurstgelee : whis?
[2016-11-07 20:09:10] sleger : JamesPolo: more or less
[2016-11-07 20:09:22] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: You still in ZEC?
[2016-11-07 20:09:31] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-07 20:09:46] CapitalGains : Holding longs from 0.3?
[2016-11-07 20:09:54] wurstgelee : average way lower
[2016-11-07 20:09:56] sleger : better than from 3
[2016-11-07 20:10:02] CapitalGains : Good good.
[2016-11-07 20:10:11] micmix : JamesPolo: price here is based on okc usd and bitmex, check https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-11-07 20:10:25] sleger : so someone just sold 200 zec at those prices
[2016-11-07 20:10:37] JamesPolo : Thx
[2016-11-07 20:10:39] CapitalGains : I closed, waiting to buy ZEC below 0.1 if possible
[2016-11-07 20:10:39] wurstgelee : ouch
[2016-11-07 20:10:56] CapitalGains : If that someone were to get short squeezed...
[2016-11-07 20:11:29] wurstgelee : that someone prob hjas enough margin to survive that
[2016-11-07 20:11:29] NL007 : he will get Rekt
[2016-11-07 20:11:38] wurstgelee : otherwise it would be really stupid...
[2016-11-07 20:12:55] wurstgelee : fatfinger and now closing? :p
[2016-11-07 20:12:56] imabeast : dat buy wall
[2016-11-07 20:12:58] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-07 20:12:59] mjones : Zec pump would require a lot to not get rekt doing that
[2016-11-07 20:13:13] Apocalyptic : lol at that squeeze attempt
[2016-11-07 20:13:20] wurstgelee : funny :)
[2016-11-07 20:13:24] NL007 : 12631 ZEC mined and price is 0.38
[2016-11-07 20:13:39] wurstgelee : thats nothing
[2016-11-07 20:13:59] NL007 : Think when there are 130000+ in 1 month
[2016-11-07 20:14:08] NL007 : O-0
[2016-11-07 20:14:15] mjones : 675 zec in buy support on polo
[2016-11-07 20:14:19] wurstgelee : we're here and now tho ;)
[2016-11-07 20:14:59] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: I can't believe you're long ZEC
[2016-11-07 20:15:13] CapitalGains : It still seems quite plausible to me that someone with several hundred ZEC might suddenly realise that holding it is a bad idea, and crash Polo completely
[2016-11-07 20:15:21] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: why not? ;)
[2016-11-07 20:15:57] mjones : Can get 100-200 btc dumping zec now. Price will only go lower
[2016-11-07 20:16:29] wurstgelee : i allowed myself a risky gamble with ~12% of zec profits.
[2016-11-07 20:16:40] wurstgelee : i am fine with that ;)
[2016-11-07 20:16:49] sleger : risk reward is very good now being long zec
[2016-11-07 20:16:53] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-07 20:18:07] sleger : yes you (and I) are more likely to lose money than make, but if we make we make 10x or more what we would lose
[2016-11-07 20:18:14] CapitalGains : Except that the order book seems to be becoming more and more short heavy
[2016-11-07 20:18:20] wurstgelee : sleger: !
[2016-11-07 20:18:54] sleger : CapitalGains: it will only take going back to 0.3 to trigger the first liq
[2016-11-07 20:19:24] imabeast : i think someone bought all that zec at .14 to sell at .16 lmao
[2016-11-07 20:19:42] wurstgelee : imabeast: fatfinger, position size too big, now desparate? ;)
[2016-11-07 20:19:49] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-07 20:19:50] Rado : imabeast: that's not a bad trade actually
[2016-11-07 20:19:51] CapitalGains : sleger: I don't disagree... I just can't see the futures price going above Polo's price, or even very close to it.
[2016-11-07 20:20:00] Rado : ZEC price getting closer to Polo price
[2016-11-07 20:20:13] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: thats whats is gonna happen. each day a little closer
[2016-11-07 20:20:18] Rado : now only 100%
[2016-11-07 20:20:18] wurstgelee : until dec 30 ;)
[2016-11-07 20:20:34] sleger : CapitalGains: we only care about future price triggering cascade of margin calls
[2016-11-07 20:20:53] CapitalGains : I understand, gentlemen, and I wish you luck!
[2016-11-07 20:21:10] NL007 : Even a whale will think twice pumping zec
[2016-11-07 20:21:17] CapitalGains : I'd just feel more comfortable going long from a bit lower
[2016-11-07 20:21:39] wurstgelee : NL007: depends. whoever has all that buy support there, he knows his market share gets smaller every day
[2016-11-07 20:22:00] wurstgelee : so not planning a long accumulation period i assume...
[2016-11-07 20:22:29] wurstgelee : and buy support is a lot. so there are willing buyers with deep pockets
[2016-11-07 20:23:05] NL007 : wurstgelee: but support getting lowered each time we go lower
[2016-11-07 20:23:41] wurstgelee : orders get filled
[2016-11-07 20:23:57] wurstgelee : theres no wall pulling unless i missed something
[2016-11-07 20:24:13] NL007 : and new sells put up
[2016-11-07 20:24:15] wurstgelee : so that support is "real".. as real as it can get ;)
[2016-11-07 20:24:32] wurstgelee : yeah, no point in arguing. its a gamble. ;)
[2016-11-07 20:24:44] wurstgelee : we will see....
[2016-11-07 20:24:47] CapitalGains : I'm confused as to why someone is shorting 3 separate 1 ZEC orders per minute
[2016-11-07 20:25:37] NL007 : wurstgelee: when support falls below 500btc than things could go fast down
[2016-11-07 20:26:01] CapitalGains : Wurst and Sleger - this buy support isn't you guys?
[2016-11-07 20:26:23] sleger : not me
[2016-11-07 20:26:27] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-07 20:26:28] wurstgelee : neither
[2016-11-07 20:26:33] wurstgelee : my orders are all hidden
[2016-11-07 20:26:42] wurstgelee : why show them? to scare shorters?
[2016-11-07 20:26:45] wurstgelee : thats not my intend
[2016-11-07 20:26:46] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-07 20:27:05] CapitalGains : I also basically never show my bids.
[2016-11-07 20:27:19] wurstgelee : if i want them to get filled, i dont show them
[2016-11-07 20:27:22] wurstgelee : 99% of the time ;)
[2016-11-07 20:27:47] sleger : wurstgelee: to not pay that huge taker fee
[2016-11-07 20:28:00] hhhhh : wurstgelee: show them hide them ZEC will go down to at least 0.1 and im sure you know that too
[2016-11-07 20:28:16] CapitalGains : Well, it's nice to see some action on ZEC. First someone shorting 200, now 50 contracts of buy support.
[2016-11-07 20:28:32] wurstgelee : sleger: youre right, but that wouldn work with my educated fomo style :p
[2016-11-07 20:29:42] CapitalGains : Cheers fellas, good luck with your longs. I'll join you again in a few days. Don't forget about the Polo price, obvs ;)
[2016-11-07 20:29:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 20:43:04] wurstgelee : lolz @ zec ;)
[2016-11-07 20:43:14] public username 321 : zec longs get rekt
[2016-11-07 20:45:35] transisto : no long got rekt in a while
[2016-11-07 20:46:11] transisto : Those 65 are very tempting
[2016-11-07 20:46:19] public username 321 : transisto: yu think they pump it back up against the force of gravity?
[2016-11-07 20:46:42] transisto : because they'll have 20% in the end
[2016-11-07 20:47:13] public username 321 : sure, but if they are smart they pump in january or february or even later
[2016-11-07 20:47:20] wurstgelee : no
[2016-11-07 20:47:26] wurstgelee : the contract settles dec 30 ;)
[2016-11-07 20:47:30] public username 321 : accumulation first
[2016-11-07 20:47:38] public username 321 : before pump
[2016-11-07 20:48:00] transisto : they'll pump now because there is still no supply
[2016-11-07 20:48:22] transisto : it's already pumped, why fucking retard buy on the market when they can but the Future at less than half price
[2016-11-07 20:48:45] transisto : WTF ? gently caressing ? didn't write that
[2016-11-07 20:49:06] transisto : Oh I wrote The F*
[2016-11-07 20:49:12] public username 321 : fuck
[2016-11-07 20:49:16] public username 321 : lol
[2016-11-07 20:49:27] Transisto2 : the fuck
[2016-11-07 20:49:37] Transisto2 : fuck
[2016-11-07 20:50:12] kradiav : fucktorial
[2016-11-07 20:52:08] transisto : Common, someone grab that 64x 0.173 ...
[2016-11-07 20:52:17] NL007 : next time write FUK
[2016-11-07 20:52:49] transisto : wat da fuq
[2016-11-07 20:53:21] kradiav : fornication under consent of the king this
[2016-11-07 21:01:10] poes : fuck
[2016-11-07 21:01:13] poes : awesome
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.180006
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.209850
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 165 @ 0.180265
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 7 @ 0.207726
[2016-11-07 21:02:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.224997
[2016-11-07 21:02:50] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-11-07 21:03:06] kradiav : nicee
[2016-11-07 21:03:48] wurstgelee : and thats why u dont short zec....
[2016-11-07 21:03:58] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-07 21:04:07] wurstgelee : especially not 165 contracts x2
[2016-11-07 21:04:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 21:04:08] kradiav : nop, that's why you should not be a full retard
[2016-11-07 21:04:13] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-07 21:04:19] transisto : WTF just happened ?
[2016-11-07 21:04:24] wurstgelee : someone shorted 2x
[2016-11-07 21:04:27] kradiav : #rekt
[2016-11-07 21:04:28] wurstgelee : and got squeeted
[2016-11-07 21:04:32] wurstgelee : squeezed
[2016-11-07 21:04:39] wurstgelee : hahahahahhahaha
[2016-11-07 21:04:43] wurstgelee : hahahahahhahahahahahaha
[2016-11-07 21:04:48] wurstgelee : WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
[2016-11-07 21:04:49] NL007 : zec will be back at 0.13
[2016-11-07 21:05:45] transisto : Where did the the 165 filled ? that guy with 500 contract didn't fill ?
[2016-11-07 21:05:46] wurstgelee : i bet that hurt
[2016-11-07 21:05:54] wurstgelee : transisto: .14something
[2016-11-07 21:05:57] wurstgelee : half an hour ago
[2016-11-07 21:06:01] kradiav : no more liqs :( ?
[2016-11-07 21:06:04] aethlios : opened 77 at 0.35 short, try to close 0.2
[2016-11-07 21:06:08] wurstgelee : prob not far away
[2016-11-07 21:06:59] aethlios : closed 0.2, thanks
[2016-11-07 21:07:06] Tetsuo : aethlios: +1
[2016-11-07 21:07:14] Tetsuo : nice work
[2016-11-07 21:07:31] wurstgelee : whoever did that
[2016-11-07 21:07:32] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-11-07 21:07:45] wurstgelee : got out of my .23 average with a profit :p
[2016-11-07 21:08:04] Tetsuo : nice show
[2016-11-07 21:08:05] wurstgelee : great work
[2016-11-07 21:08:07] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-07 21:08:07] aethlios : there was a bid at 0.35, hit it first, 11.55 btc profit in 5 minutes, that's trading
[2016-11-07 21:08:21] wurstgelee : i missed that .35 short tho :/
[2016-11-07 21:08:39] kradiav : aethlios: haha nice
[2016-11-07 21:08:45] wurstgelee : well, new round
[2016-11-07 21:08:51] wurstgelee : time to set them low buys again... :)
[2016-11-07 21:09:00] aethlios : who offered free money?
[2016-11-07 21:09:27] wurstgelee : i suspect sleger
[2016-11-07 21:09:27] kradiav : either they were afk or they are not alive :P
[2016-11-07 21:09:50] wurstgelee : that 165 contract short tho...
[2016-11-07 21:09:57] wurstgelee : took 30 mins to get mc'ed
[2016-11-07 21:10:07] transisto : was there really 165 @ 0.180265 in the orderbook ?
[2016-11-07 21:10:46] transisto : I don't see that anywhere
[2016-11-07 21:17:51] transisto : How does that work when there is margin call, does it place a limit order or does it do market order all in one shot ?
[2016-11-07 21:18:20] transisto : I would have so ,much jumped on these 0.35 order
[2016-11-07 21:21:20] mjones : 2 minutes after i leave work zec goes crazy
[2016-11-07 21:21:50] micmix : that big liq order was moved to 0.237179 and filled
[2016-11-07 21:22:38] micmix : as market order all the way up to 0.35
[2016-11-07 21:22:40] wurstgelee : i wonder who had those buys @ .35
[2016-11-07 21:22:42] wurstgelee : a lot of them
[2016-11-07 21:23:34] transisto : was it not just the margin call ?
[2016-11-07 21:23:58] transisto : gotta be really stupid to place a buy a 0.35
[2016-11-07 21:23:59] Tetsuo : no, probably stop limit orders
[2016-11-07 21:24:35] wurstgelee : still stupid :p
[2016-11-07 21:25:32] micmix : ok, I checked the liq history. liquidation order was filled @ 0.237179, someone sold into it
[2016-11-07 21:25:53] micmix : those buy up to 0.35 were most likely stop orders
[2016-11-07 21:26:45] rapidtrades : wth just happened gentlemen
[2016-11-07 21:27:03] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: u missed the show
[2016-11-07 21:27:27] Tetsuo : bitchin about 4 weeks about the short squeeze and then u missed it, good work rapid
[2016-11-07 21:28:44] zcashequalslambo : lol
[2016-11-07 21:28:57] zcashequalslambo : why are the shorts going opposite here compared to poloniex xD
[2016-11-07 21:29:08] wurstgelee : this is sparta
[2016-11-07 21:29:27] aethlios : rapidtrades: made a killing again,
[2016-11-07 21:32:00] NL007 : micmix: yes he lost some btc
[2016-11-07 21:32:21] jibmmy : hey all
[2016-11-07 21:32:35] jibmmy : I am newb, can someone explain this to me
[2016-11-07 21:32:49] jibmmy : I have 75 contracts whats that mean in btc?
[2016-11-07 21:33:07] CaptainDean : 75$ of BTC
[2016-11-07 21:33:20] CaptainDean : Contract Value1.00 USD
[2016-11-07 21:33:25] jibmmy : CaptainDean: ty
[2016-11-07 21:34:46] micmix : jibmmy: there is a value column in the position table, it shows position value for your positions
[2016-11-07 21:35:27] jibmmy : thing I dont understand is unrealised PNL is at 11%
[2016-11-07 21:35:47] jibmmy : but the btc amount doesnt match with value of position
[2016-11-07 21:36:33] jibmmy : pos val = .1 unrealised pnl = .0004 xbt 11%
[2016-11-07 21:44:52] rapidtrades : so we traded up to polo? what's the big deal
[2016-11-07 21:46:31] wurstgelee : no big deal if you longed 3btc i guess
[2016-11-07 21:47:45] wurstgelee : and the shenenigans are not over yet....
[2016-11-07 21:47:48] wurstgelee : i guess
[2016-11-07 21:47:54] rapidtrades : how many confirmations on polo?
[2016-11-07 21:47:54] sleger : i have a doubt, if you buy at 3 and the price is 0.3, are you down 90% or 99% or more ... ? maybe you could help @rapidtrades , look at the % in your unrealised please ?
[2016-11-07 21:48:10] rapidtrades : says 184%
[2016-11-07 21:48:40] rapidtrades : so that would be 92%?
[2016-11-07 21:48:43] sleger : 90% times leverage plus fees
[2016-11-07 21:48:49] Rado : because is 2x1 leve
[2016-11-07 21:48:50] Rado : lev
[2016-11-07 21:48:58] Rado : yes 92%
[2016-11-07 21:48:59] sleger : it was just to tease you, i knew the answer :p
[2016-11-07 21:49:07] Rado : lol
[2016-11-07 21:49:13] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-07 21:49:43] imabeast : fack i missed that pump
[2016-11-07 21:50:09] imabeast : got my short out literally right before at .14 though.. smh lmao
[2016-11-07 21:50:46] rapidtrades : so what exactly happened? margin call?
[2016-11-07 21:51:31] rapidtrades : i see a ton of buying and then selling
[2016-11-07 21:51:38] rapidtrades : doesn't tell me what happened
[2016-11-07 21:51:40] wurstgelee : someone shorted 165 contracts
[2016-11-07 21:51:43] wurstgelee : ~.14
[2016-11-07 21:51:48] wurstgelee : squeeze, mc
[2016-11-07 21:51:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 21:52:04] rapidtrades : wow...is that the pothead from Amsterdam
[2016-11-07 21:52:06] wurstgelee : those happened ~ .18 tho
[2016-11-07 21:52:11] Jokerr : Zec will be at <0.2 at the end of the week 200%
[2016-11-07 21:52:15] wurstgelee : dunno why the run up to 350
[2016-11-07 21:52:22] rapidtrades : ^ found him, it's Jokerr
[2016-11-07 21:52:28] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-07 21:53:01] imabeast : wurstgelee: u think this will run up again?
[2016-11-07 21:53:32] wurstgelee : imabeast: i assume so tbh. dunno. gonna refill some long if we go down again... ;)
[2016-11-07 21:53:38] wurstgelee : *S
[2016-11-07 21:53:50] imabeast : wurstgelee: at what price point :D
[2016-11-07 21:53:52] negamax : wurstgelee: did you closed your longs?
[2016-11-07 21:54:00] rapidtrades : why would u short 100 c at 0.14
[2016-11-07 21:54:03] wurstgelee : negamax: yep. with a profit ;)
[2016-11-07 21:54:10] wurstgelee : imabeast: not sure yet
[2016-11-07 21:54:10] negamax : wurstgelee: sweet :D
[2016-11-07 21:54:15] Jokerr : Supply will be x10 in 20 days....
[2016-11-07 21:54:24] wurstgelee : Jokerr: we know all that, we heard all that
[2016-11-07 21:54:30] wurstgelee : a dozen times
[2016-11-07 21:54:31] negamax : wurstgelee: I would had ended up buying in hopes of hitting 10 btc again ;)
[2016-11-07 21:54:43] wurstgelee : lol :)
[2016-11-07 21:54:56] Jokerr : lol
[2016-11-07 21:55:01] rapidtrades : I have an endless supply of toilet paper for all the shit I've been reading past 10 days
[2016-11-07 21:56:06] rapidtrades : that dutch guy gambling with his tuition money does to the top
[2016-11-07 21:56:48] public username 321 : I'm buying zec future long for 0.02 because i like gambling ;)
[2016-11-07 21:57:15] imabeast : i hope someone pumps zec on polo
[2016-11-07 21:57:16] imabeast : plz
[2016-11-07 21:57:25] imabeast : .35 to .7
[2016-11-07 21:57:54] wurstgelee : let me close my small short first please
[2016-11-07 21:57:55] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-07 21:59:11] imabeast : haha. hopefully this is the next consolidation area i want to get in some shorts :D
[2016-11-07 21:59:49] imabeast : i feel some shenanigans will be coming shortly
[2016-11-07 22:00:02] rapidtrades : so are we gonna move again? cos i need to go out
[2016-11-07 22:00:27] rapidtrades : hope that crazy guy goes long now
[2016-11-07 22:00:49] wurstgelee : i asure u, we wont hit ur buy in
[2016-11-07 22:00:49] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 22:00:54] wurstgelee : u can go out
[2016-11-07 22:05:39] NL007 : almost 0.35 on polo
[2016-11-07 22:05:55] rapidtrades : yeah we are so undervalued here
[2016-11-07 22:09:33] NL007 : rapidtrades: we still have 71/2 weeks to go
[2016-11-07 22:09:54] public username 321 : but the gap to spot is less severe than it has been few days ago
[2016-11-07 22:09:55] sleger : NL007: 71/2 ?
[2016-11-07 22:10:03] sleger : =35.5 ?
[2016-11-07 22:10:11] rapidtrades : sleger: seven and half stupid
[2016-11-07 22:10:26] sleger : rapidtrades: then he should write 7 1/2 and not 71/2
[2016-11-07 22:10:30] NL007 : 7 1/2
[2016-11-07 22:10:36] sleger : NL007: better !
[2016-11-07 22:10:41] NL007 : sleger: happy now
[2016-11-07 22:10:44] NL007 : xd
[2016-11-07 22:10:47] rapidtrades : sleger: get better glasses
[2016-11-07 22:16:34] imabeast : yea i think well be in this area for the next day or so
[2016-11-07 22:16:37] imabeast : then a minor pump
[2016-11-07 22:17:12] imabeast : looks like its gonna keep bouncing off this .35 area
[2016-11-07 22:24:41] transisto : if you want to know what will happen to ZCASH lookup STEEM chart.
[2016-11-07 22:25:37] transisto : (starting when it launched)
[2016-11-07 22:29:02] wurstgelee : i am curious, where are the similarities?
[2016-11-07 22:29:20] wurstgelee : what do you base your prediction on?
[2016-11-07 22:34:56] hazir : inflation
[2016-11-07 22:39:45] laisee : ZEC has uses, STEEm not so much
[2016-11-07 22:42:09] aethlios : possible a last pump to 1 for zec spot, here at 0.7, and a nice short entry, before more supply hits the market.
[2016-11-07 22:45:04] rapidtrades : good to see the shorts capitulating
[2016-11-07 22:50:32] Dtrade16 : Guys is it safe loaning USD on Bitfinex?