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[2016-11-07 16:32:04] Rado : yep
[2016-11-07 16:32:13] Rado : it's more about doing business
[2016-11-07 16:34:33] lockhedge : on the other hand if you have a company there you'll very likely get a business visa
[2016-11-07 16:35:40] arbitrage001 : how would one take advantage of e-resident?
[2016-11-07 16:37:21] Tetsuo : My fellow estonians! Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.
[2016-11-07 16:39:20] mjones : How come i am getting 429 error on my computer for this site?
[2016-11-07 16:39:40] sleger : errorS
[2016-11-07 16:40:16] mjones : Works now
[2016-11-07 16:40:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 212 @ 704.02
[2016-11-07 16:40:46] mjones : One more dump btc!
[2016-11-07 16:40:57] rapidtrades : bis visas usually require large investment plus u have to employ ppl locally
[2016-11-07 16:41:49] rapidtrades : you can't get it by forming a company
[2016-11-07 16:43:12] lockhedge : yeah, i guess not everybody who forms a company for 30 GBP in the UK will get a visa automatically
[2016-11-07 16:43:34] rapidtrades : paying a hoe to marry u is prolly cheapest
[2016-11-07 16:43:53] Tetsuo : true
[2016-11-07 16:43:59] rapidtrades : but exposes ur money in case of a 'divorce'
[2016-11-07 16:45:06] rapidtrades : that is if we're talking about getting permanent resident status
[2016-11-07 16:45:08] Tetsuo : that´s where u need smart contracts like ETC
[2016-11-07 16:45:49] habibi : so far best usability of smart contracts is speculation
[2016-11-07 16:45:54] Tetsuo : "in case of divorce 5 DOGE will be given to miss hoe"
[2016-11-07 16:47:01] sleger : has 0kcoin announced ETC trading yet ?
[2016-11-07 16:47:08] Tetsuo : sleger: soon
[2016-11-07 16:47:17] rapidtrades : no? did they suggest they will do it?
[2016-11-07 16:47:29] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: according to bloomberg, yes
[2016-11-07 16:47:32] sleger : all china is buying ETC
[2016-11-07 16:47:53] rapidtrades : if 'all china is buying etc' why are prices at 1385
[2016-11-07 16:48:03] rapidtrades : it was 1330 pre-tweet
[2016-11-07 16:48:05] habibi : sleger: they won't probally follow btcc but in case they will, u should sell eth
[2016-11-07 16:48:11] rapidtrades : sry 1315
[2016-11-07 16:48:13] sleger : bitmex introduced a cap thats why @rapidtrades
[2016-11-07 16:48:22] rapidtrades : makes sense
[2016-11-07 16:48:23] Tetsuo : true
[2016-11-07 16:48:53] Tetsuo : fukkin cappers should let that coin fly
[2016-11-07 16:53:55] Rado : As I said ETH and ETC are out
[2016-11-07 16:54:07] Rado : focus on better coins
[2016-11-07 16:55:34] arbitrage001 : Rado: which coin
[2016-11-07 16:55:46] Rado : BTC lol
[2016-11-07 16:56:05] Rado : kidding aside XMR and ZEC are now in focus
[2016-11-07 16:56:19] Rado : I also like LISK long term if they execute however
[2016-11-07 16:56:24] arbitrage001 : Rado: zec and xmr still dropping everyday
[2016-11-07 16:56:32] Rado : LISK will either flop or be a 10x at some point
[2016-11-07 16:56:38] arbitrage001 : what is lisk selling point?
[2016-11-07 16:56:56] Rado : apps marketplace, side chains
[2016-11-07 16:57:30] arbitrage001 : which mean what to non-tech?
[2016-11-07 16:57:58] Rado : you can create an application on the blockchain and have your own token
[2016-11-07 16:58:08] Rado : there will be delegates that secure your token
[2016-11-07 16:58:20] Rado : you will use the main chain just for user registrations etc
[2016-11-07 16:58:31] Rado : then you can do everything else with your own token
[2016-11-07 16:58:48] Rado : lets say I build a Twitter on the blockchain on top of LISK
[2016-11-07 16:59:21] Rado : I can issue my BTWT coin and pay people that post part of the advertising revenue
[2016-11-07 16:59:55] arbitrage001 : sound too complicated
[2016-11-07 17:00:04] arbitrage001 : who is the intended audience?
[2016-11-07 17:00:10] Rado : it is, but also can change the Internet as we know it
[2016-11-07 17:00:46] Rado : the whole point of the blockchain is to break corporate grip on everything
[2016-11-07 17:01:09] sleger : Rado: Bitmex put a cap on List at zero
[2016-11-07 17:01:19] sleger : They DeList-ed it
[2016-11-07 17:01:21] Rado : sleger: they did ;-)
[2016-11-07 17:01:37] Rado : one they people will be begging them to add it
[2016-11-07 17:01:44] arbitrage001 : market not buying it
[2016-11-07 17:02:10] Rado : arbitrage001: no, because they are slow developing the software
[2016-11-07 17:02:19] Rado : but they have $15 mill
[2016-11-07 17:02:27] Rado : and haven't spent anything yet
[2016-11-07 17:02:44] Rado : they announced that rewards for miners are starting by the end of the year
[2016-11-07 17:02:47] arbitrage001 : shouldnt issue a half baked project
[2016-11-07 17:03:49] Rado : arbitrage001: no shit
[2016-11-07 17:03:57] Rado : all of them are like that
[2016-11-07 17:04:05] Rado : the new coins are even worse
[2016-11-07 17:04:15] Rado : they start just with an idea and a home page
[2016-11-07 17:04:17] Rado : then ICO
[2016-11-07 17:04:19] Rado : then develop
[2016-11-07 17:04:28] arbitrage001 : eth did it the best
[2016-11-07 17:04:35] Rado : yes
[2016-11-07 17:04:41] arbitrage001 : have no idea why so many people buy into it
[2016-11-07 17:05:05] arbitrage001 : wish i did
[2016-11-07 17:05:13] arbitrage001 : 1000x return is nice
[2016-11-07 17:05:16] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-11-07 17:06:30] Rado : http://www.coindesk.com/icos-appcoins-blockchain-vcs-view/
[2016-11-07 17:06:48] Rado : In this opinion piece, Scher gives his personal view of the lately popular ICOs and appcoins, and offers a warning for potential investors.
[2016-11-07 17:13:27] Rado : hey guys, would you be interested in a website/application that combines all of your exchanges in one place and allows you to view your orders/balances as well as place orders?
[2016-11-07 17:13:58] arbitrage001 : Rado: would be bad security wise, wouldnt it?
[2016-11-07 17:14:08] Rado : not really
[2016-11-07 17:14:29] Rado : it will only accept API keys that don't have withdrwal power
[2016-11-07 17:15:00] arbitrage001 : can get money off by trading large spread product
[2016-11-07 17:20:46] Rado : XMR keeps pushing since yesterday
[2016-11-07 17:20:59] Tetsuo : fly XMR fly
[2016-11-07 17:21:01] wurstgelee : yep. longed some
[2016-11-07 17:21:18] Rado : should have bought .0075 on the pullback
[2016-11-07 17:21:25] arbitrage001 : dark market is backing xmr again?
[2016-11-07 17:21:38] arbitrage001 : or you guys just gambling
[2016-11-07 17:21:47] wurstgelee : nope, polo making new highs
[2016-11-07 17:21:53] wurstgelee : thats why i bought
[2016-11-07 17:21:59] wurstgelee : no other reason
[2016-11-07 17:22:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 290 @ 0.007997
[2016-11-07 17:22:02] wurstgelee : 0.008
[2016-11-07 17:22:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 17:22:09] arbitrage001 : that was quick
[2016-11-07 17:22:15] wurstgelee : indeed
[2016-11-07 17:22:34] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-07 17:22:40] mjones : Xmr big Buys
[2016-11-07 17:22:44] Tetsuo : market listens to bitmex trollbox
[2016-11-07 17:22:47] wurstgelee : longed 3 moins earlier
[2016-11-07 17:22:52] wurstgelee : great timing
[2016-11-07 17:22:54] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-07 17:22:56] wurstgelee : mins
[2016-11-07 17:23:04] Rado : wurstgelee: cool
[2016-11-07 17:23:05] arbitrage001 : market here slower than polo?
[2016-11-07 17:23:11] Rado : maybe you should sell
[2016-11-07 17:23:12] Rado : lol
[2016-11-07 17:23:16] wurstgelee : hhe
[2016-11-07 17:23:32] wurstgelee : id like to see some good polo fomo to the mid 80s
[2016-11-07 17:23:38] wurstgelee : 814
[2016-11-07 17:23:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 17:23:48] arbitrage001 : exit is 850?
[2016-11-07 17:23:54] wurstgelee : not sure
[2016-11-07 17:23:55] arbitrage001 : almost there already
[2016-11-07 17:24:02] wurstgelee : watching
[2016-11-07 17:24:24] Tetsuo : exit=cap as always, easy money
[2016-11-07 17:25:43] wurstgelee : hm..that spike was some serious volume
[2016-11-07 17:25:51] wurstgelee : i think ill hold a while and see what happens
[2016-11-07 17:27:13] Rado : wurstgelee: that's only a good strategy if you have a stop
[2016-11-07 17:27:20] wurstgelee : Rado: ofc
[2016-11-07 17:27:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 17:27:42] Rado : ;-)
[2016-11-07 17:27:54] arbitrage001 : going down is quick also
[2016-11-07 17:28:20] wurstgelee : thats the type of spike that has a good chance to ignite typical polo fomo
[2016-11-07 17:28:29] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: +1
[2016-11-07 17:29:33] wurstgelee : also higher timeframe charts dont really shout "sell" at me... ;)
[2016-11-07 17:33:15] mjones : Xmr double top going back to the 30th
[2016-11-07 17:33:30] mjones : About ready to break it
[2016-11-07 17:33:55] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-07 17:34:21] wurstgelee : *polo fomo ensues*
[2016-11-07 17:34:39] arbitrage001 : how far will it go
[2016-11-07 17:34:46] arbitrage001 : 0.01?
[2016-11-07 17:36:30] wurstgelee : no clue
[2016-11-07 17:36:40] wurstgelee : popcorn mode. watching ;)
[2016-11-07 17:36:46] arbitrage001 : what is your exit strategy
[2016-11-07 17:37:02] wurstgelee : sell?
[2016-11-07 17:37:05] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-07 17:37:15] arbitrage001 : yea
[2016-11-07 17:37:24] wurstgelee : well, its sell. :p
[2016-11-07 17:37:31] arbitrage001 : obviously, you need to sell at some point
[2016-11-07 17:37:39] Tetsuo : at the top?
[2016-11-07 17:37:55] arbitrage001 : Tetsuo: you have 20/20 hindsight?
[2016-11-07 17:38:03] wurstgelee : sell decisions are usually spontaneous tbh
[2016-11-07 17:38:13] aethlios : someone here had mentioned xmr bottom.....
[2016-11-07 17:38:14] Tetsuo : 95 would look fine too me
[2016-11-07 17:38:17] wurstgelee : unless i have no internet access
[2016-11-07 17:38:30] wurstgelee : then i set sells where i think average polo fomo might go ;)
[2016-11-07 17:43:29] QuantFocus : classic H&S on btc?
[2016-11-07 17:43:50] Tetsuo : whis?
[2016-11-07 17:44:46] Tetsuo : 1m charts?
[2016-11-07 17:47:02] QuantFocus : 1d
[2016-11-07 17:47:48] Tetsuo : can´t identify one
[2016-11-07 17:52:50] mjones : Rep on polo huge buy wall
[2016-11-07 17:58:37] RoftheN : Why is XMR up?
[2016-11-07 18:01:30] dasdfasdf : it went down too much
[2016-11-07 18:08:12] wurstgelee : RoftheN: bitmex trollbox said so
[2016-11-07 18:08:28] RoftheN : I hate XMR
[2016-11-07 18:08:45] RoftheN : It will probably go down when ZEC pumps
[2016-11-07 18:08:49] Tetsuo : RoftheN: do u hate money?
[2016-11-07 18:08:54] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: you were long when it went up and short when it went up?
[2016-11-07 18:09:03] RoftheN : Not all k
[2016-11-07 18:09:14] RoftheN : I was short when it went up
[2016-11-07 18:09:17] RoftheN : often
[2016-11-07 18:09:32] RoftheN : The amazing pump th
[2016-11-07 18:09:33] arbitrage001 : shorting alt always dangerous
[2016-11-07 18:09:34] RoftheN : I was shorting it
[2016-11-07 18:09:40] RoftheN : Learned my lesson
[2016-11-07 18:09:43] Tetsuo : this time go long
[2016-11-07 18:09:49] arbitrage001 : whale make money off retail trader
[2016-11-07 18:09:49] RoftheN : Now I won't use signicant amounts doing that
[2016-11-07 18:09:56] Tetsuo : do it
[2016-11-07 18:10:30] RoftheN : They should have waited with removing LISK for like a week, this one was so obvious
[2016-11-07 18:11:40] arbitrage001 : not many were trading it, so it wasnt obvious
[2016-11-07 18:13:02] Tetsuo : also new ATL FOR 1w RSI LTC/BTC, @RoftheN so u should start buyin now!
[2016-11-07 18:13:28] Tetsuo : before it get´s delisted
[2016-11-07 18:13:31] Tetsuo : :-(
[2016-11-07 18:13:39] RoftheN : Oh okay
[2016-11-07 18:13:46] RoftheN : What's RSI?
[2016-11-07 18:14:19] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: what do you based your trading decision on?
[2016-11-07 18:15:35] Tetsuo : trollbox, ponzi newsletters just the usual stuff i guess
[2016-11-07 18:16:05] RoftheN : on stupidity, why?
[2016-11-07 18:16:34] RoftheN : What should I base it on?
[2016-11-07 18:16:52] Tetsuo : black witchery
[2016-11-07 18:17:29] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: you are gambling blindly?
[2016-11-07 18:17:46] RoftheN : Oh I wouldn't call it gambling, with gambling you have like a 49% chance you win
[2016-11-07 18:17:51] RoftheN : I suck so much my chances of winning are like 20%
[2016-11-07 18:18:08] RoftheN : And I rationalize it all with saying I 'm learning from my mistakes and one day might become better
[2016-11-07 18:18:08] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-07 18:18:13] arbitrage001 : a casino gives you better odd
[2016-11-07 18:18:25] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-11-07 18:18:50] RoftheN : But gambling is kinda boring
[2016-11-07 18:18:52] RoftheN : this is more fun
[2016-11-07 18:19:39] RoftheN : So Mr non-gambler, what do you base your trades on?
[2016-11-07 18:20:01] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: traders usually have their own system
[2016-11-07 18:20:33] arbitrage001 : some based on technical, some on astrology, some on gut feeling
[2016-11-07 18:26:49] RoftheN : Im asking about yours
[2016-11-07 18:26:50] RoftheN : And
[2016-11-07 18:26:59] RoftheN : astrology and gut feeling sounds more liek gambling to me
[2016-11-07 18:29:31] arbitrage001 : 90% of traders lose money
[2016-11-07 18:30:57] wurstgelee : funny, i was wondering about that just a few hours ago
[2016-11-07 18:31:53] wurstgelee : percentage of profitable traders vover the last 2-3 years
[2016-11-07 18:31:57] wurstgelee : *-v
[2016-11-07 18:32:21] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: i just made up that number
[2016-11-07 18:32:21] wurstgelee : i remember some being successful for a few months and going down in flames....
[2016-11-07 18:32:37] arbitrage001 : but most articles quote this figure
[2016-11-07 18:32:37] wurstgelee : yeah, but my assumption is 10% as well
[2016-11-07 18:32:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 18:32:59] arbitrage001 : and of those 10% that make profit, maybe only 1-2% make it worth while
[2016-11-07 18:33:08] arbitrage001 : the rest better off working atmcdonals
[2016-11-07 18:33:17] arbitrage001 : at mcdonalds
[2016-11-07 18:33:32] wurstgelee : i wouldnt want to do this for a living tbh
[2016-11-07 18:33:47] arbitrage001 : depend on personality
[2016-11-07 18:33:52] arbitrage001 : some people enjoy it
[2016-11-07 18:33:58] arbitrage001 : seem to me you enjoy doing it
[2016-11-07 18:34:10] wurstgelee : yeah maybe. but i prefer the security of a bill-paying job
[2016-11-07 18:34:24] arbitrage001 : but once you have big enough nest?
[2016-11-07 18:34:26] wurstgelee : keeps the pressure low, ensures the fun part in it
[2016-11-07 18:34:54] wurstgelee : dunno, i'll see when and if (really big if) that time ever comes
[2016-11-07 18:34:55] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 18:39:11] RoftheN : It doesn't make sense that the vast majority of traders lose money
[2016-11-07 18:39:33] RoftheN : Won't thjey stop being a trader once they lost everything and only leave those who win left to be a trader?
[2016-11-07 18:39:44] Tetsuo : fresh idiots come in
[2016-11-07 18:39:50] Tetsuo : on a regular basis
[2016-11-07 18:39:55] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: new suckers born every min?
[2016-11-07 18:40:04] RoftheN : oh like me
[2016-11-07 18:40:05] RoftheN : Makes sense
[2016-11-07 18:40:18] Tetsuo : RoftheN: :-)
[2016-11-07 18:40:29] RoftheN : So how do I become the 10%
[2016-11-07 18:40:36] Tetsuo : RoftheN: tryin
[2016-11-07 18:40:42] RoftheN : I am
[2016-11-07 18:49:32] wurstgelee : also use small stakes
[2016-11-07 18:49:39] wurstgelee : and/or maybe bitmex testnet
[2016-11-07 18:53:26] RoftheN : oh yeah I should use the testnet
[2016-11-07 18:53:45] RoftheN : Well I don't have much money so I can't use high stakes anwway
[2016-11-07 18:53:50] RoftheN : I already lost most of it haha
[2016-11-07 18:54:36] sleger : hahaha
[2016-11-07 18:56:13] RoftheN : But yeah I mean it was only borrowed money so why should I care
[2016-11-07 18:57:08] wurstgelee : so you dont know what youre doing while trading borrowed money here? oO
[2016-11-07 18:57:45] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-11-07 18:58:03] wurstgelee : great plan
[2016-11-07 18:58:04] RoftheN : Borrowed from the government
[2016-11-07 18:58:12] RoftheN : to pay for my study
[2016-11-07 18:58:30] sleger : looks like you havent learned much
[2016-11-07 18:58:53] sleger : which university are you going to ?
[2016-11-07 18:59:03] RoftheN : University of Amsterdam
[2016-11-07 18:59:12] RoftheN : is very cheap so don't need all this money the government offers me
[2016-11-07 18:59:16] sleger : too much smoking not enough learning
[2016-11-07 18:59:26] Transisto2 : test
[2016-11-07 18:59:27] RoftheN : Not a fan of weed, it's boring
[2016-11-07 18:59:41] sleger : and you dont need to reimburse that money ?
[2016-11-07 18:59:48] RoftheN : Not anytime soon
[2016-11-07 18:59:55] RoftheN : and only if I get a job
[2016-11-07 18:59:56] sleger : but eventually
[2016-11-07 19:00:10] sleger : so somehow you're losing your own money here
[2016-11-07 19:00:11] RoftheN : Best debt ever
[2016-11-07 19:00:26] RoftheN : Well in a way, but the thing is, if I don't have it I don't have to pay it back
[2016-11-07 19:00:39] RoftheN : So I'm just gonna go for it, get rich or get poor, aslong as I'm not average
[2016-11-07 19:00:43] sleger : and there is no recourse ?
[2016-11-07 19:00:50] numero : :)
[2016-11-07 19:01:06] RoftheN : Not really no, but as soon as I get a job I'll have to pay so I guess I will have to stay jobless
[2016-11-07 19:01:18] sleger : sounds great
[2016-11-07 19:01:22] Tetsuo : winwin
[2016-11-07 19:01:27] RoftheN : Besrt thing is, the interest of the debt is 0.01% this year, and 0% next year
[2016-11-07 19:01:30] RoftheN : which is amazing
[2016-11-07 19:01:44] RoftheN : too bad there's a maximum of 1000 euros per month
[2016-11-07 19:01:56] sleger : and who's gonna pay for your parents retirement ?
[2016-11-07 19:02:33] RoftheN : They invested in 65+ money thingies and will sell their house and buy some Camper so they'll be fine
[2016-11-07 19:02:34] Tetsuo : you!
[2016-11-07 19:03:15] sleger : great thinking @RoftheN
[2016-11-07 19:03:18] Tetsuo : RoftheN: ask them to lend you some money and say you´re gonna double it
[2016-11-07 19:03:33] RoftheN : Too bad they want to spend it all and not give me a nice inheriteance
[2016-11-07 19:03:40] numero : seriously though, the incentive for youth to get a job is non-existent
[2016-11-07 19:03:54] sleger : RoftheN: they dont deserve such a good child as yourself !!
[2016-11-07 19:04:03] RoftheN : I grew up with very high dopamine video games and porn. I do not have the discipline to get a job
[2016-11-07 19:04:30] Tetsuo : RoftheN: crypto scene welcomes you!
[2016-11-07 19:04:32] sleger : yes let those other idiots who spent time study in school work their asses off !
[2016-11-07 19:04:40] numero : why work for the government when the government can work for you?
[2016-11-07 19:04:46] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-11-07 19:04:50] RoftheN : But I like studying
[2016-11-07 19:04:53] RoftheN : it's fun and interesting
[2016-11-07 19:05:00] RoftheN : I'll try to be a student for 10 years
[2016-11-07 19:05:04] RoftheN : And build up my debt
[2016-11-07 19:05:55] RoftheN : Then stay jobless and hope I earned some money trading and investing in cryptocurrencies and get lucky so that i can live rich without a job, that's my dream
[2016-11-07 19:06:25] RoftheN : Still better odds than buying lottery tickets
[2016-11-07 19:06:39] sleger : and the only thing I want is marry jessica alba, that's not much to ask for, is it ?
[2016-11-07 19:06:49] RoftheN : Well did you ask her yet?
[2016-11-07 19:07:01] sleger : she wont take my phone call
[2016-11-07 19:07:21] sleger : and she keeps calling the police when i wait in front of her house
[2016-11-07 19:07:27] sleger : although I try to be discreet !!
[2016-11-07 19:07:40] RoftheN : Why not just hire some people to do that for you
[2016-11-07 19:07:43] Tetsuo : she just shy
[2016-11-07 19:07:50] RoftheN : You must be the 10%
[2016-11-07 19:07:52] RoftheN : so you must be rich
[2016-11-07 19:08:00] wurstgelee : yeah, prob just shy
[2016-11-07 19:08:08] sleger : yes but she has money too so she is not like other women
[2016-11-07 19:08:57] sleger : sometimes when i manage to get inside her house, at night, I just look at her when she is sleeping, so cute... and yes she is just too shy I know it
[2016-11-07 19:09:22] sleger : instead of money i just want the government to let me make a clone of her.
[2016-11-07 19:09:35] RoftheN : But cloning will take 18 years unless you're a pedophile
[2016-11-07 19:10:36] sleger : didnt think about that
[2016-11-07 19:11:52] RoftheN : I'm gonna google who this Alba is
[2016-11-07 19:12:06] RoftheN : Oh isn't she that actress in that movie
[2016-11-07 19:12:12] RoftheN : She was soooo hot in it
[2016-11-07 19:13:00] wurstgelee : sin city? assless chaps?
[2016-11-07 19:13:05] wurstgelee : just a wild guess
[2016-11-07 19:13:08] RoftheN : Sin city yes
[2016-11-07 19:13:26] RoftheN : If I ever will rewatch that movie it's just because I want to see her
[2016-11-07 19:13:31] wurstgelee : somehow everyone knows that scene
[2016-11-07 19:13:33] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 19:15:42] RoftheN : Wurstgelee you're a smart person. I get 1000 euros every month that I can invest, minus 100 for things like food, how should I invest?
[2016-11-07 19:17:07] Tetsuo : 100$ for food seems a bit much to me, can´t you live on 10 $?
[2016-11-07 19:17:16] RoftheN : It's per month, not per day
[2016-11-07 19:17:21] Tetsuo : more to invest in altcoins, that are the future
[2016-11-07 19:17:37] Tetsuo : RoftheN: i was talkin bout month
[2016-11-07 19:17:38] RoftheN : I can only eat 10 days per month since I eat 10 euros per day
[2016-11-07 19:17:50] RoftheN : I love salmon
[2016-11-07 19:17:54] RoftheN : but so expensive
[2016-11-07 19:17:56] Tetsuo : RoftheN: eat rice only, buy more ETC;XMR;LTC
[2016-11-07 19:18:07] RoftheN : Okay will buy ETC and LTC
[2016-11-07 19:18:09] RoftheN : but I will never buy XMR
[2016-11-07 19:18:13] numero : RoftheN: thats what the foodbank is for ;)
[2016-11-07 19:18:20] RoftheN : OH YEAH
[2016-11-07 19:18:23] RoftheN : I forgot
[2016-11-07 19:18:26] RoftheN : I should go there
[2016-11-07 19:18:31] RoftheN : do they have high quality salmon?
[2016-11-07 19:18:47] numero : RoftheN: no, mostly staples
[2016-11-07 19:19:36] RoftheN : Damn, those greedy bastards
[2016-11-07 19:19:59] numero : RoftheN: surprise, surprise, we are the filthiest ones here
[2016-11-07 19:20:02] RoftheN : I was also thinking abuot investing in like the stock market, but idk how
[2016-11-07 19:20:30] numero : RoftheN: its easy, short companies that supply the fracking industry
[2016-11-07 19:21:01] RoftheN : But my dad's job is in that industry I think
[2016-11-07 19:21:04] numero : I'm gonna profit from the destruction of the world
[2016-11-07 19:21:17] numero : and that's really all there is to it
[2016-11-07 19:21:37] RoftheN : I'll short it when my dad stops working there, without my dad it will go out of business in no time
[2016-11-07 19:22:37] Tetsuo : bookbinding business?
[2016-11-07 19:23:04] RoftheN : Sounds boring
[2016-11-07 19:23:05] Tetsuo : industrial blacksmith?
[2016-11-07 19:27:16] numero : I actually am a market gardener
[2016-11-07 19:27:32] RoftheN : Oh
[2016-11-07 19:27:34] RoftheN : how does that work?
[2016-11-07 19:27:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.008331
[2016-11-07 19:28:02] numero : I grow food, appreciative locals pay me in fiat for the food
[2016-11-07 19:28:26] numero : I also barter with the other craftspeople at the market
[2016-11-07 19:28:59] RoftheN : Do you offer payment in bitcoin?
[2016-11-07 19:29:04] numero : but before that becomes really important, I'm going to profit from the breakdown of the capital markets
[2016-11-07 19:29:22] numero : absolutely not, I think the internet will be gone completely by 2050
[2016-11-07 19:29:42] RoftheN : but do you need the
[2016-11-07 19:29:44] RoftheN : internet for bitcoin
[2016-11-07 19:29:48] sleger : which country ? @numero
[2016-11-07 19:29:52] RoftheN : Just put them on hardware and sell the hardware
[2016-11-07 19:29:56] Apocalyptic : "I'm going to profit from the breakdown of the capital markets" sounds like a solid plan
[2016-11-07 19:29:57] numero : sleger: does it matter?
[2016-11-07 19:30:44] micmix : you can use bitcoin without the internet, just send signed transactions to nodes via snail mail
[2016-11-07 19:31:28] micmix : if postal service breaks down you can use pigeons
[2016-11-07 19:31:34] numero : interesting
[2016-11-07 19:31:41] Apocalyptic : micmix: or broadcast by radio
[2016-11-07 19:32:11] numero : still stored on fragile technical infrastrucure though no?
[2016-11-07 19:32:12] RoftheN : lol
[2016-11-07 19:32:34] Apocalyptic : there's even a project for that: https://github.com/osh/gr-bitcoin
[2016-11-07 19:32:54] sleger : numero: i was wondering in which country one can does what you are doing
[2016-11-07 19:33:43] numero : sleger: Canada, but it's just now becoming economically feasible
[2016-11-07 19:33:46] micmix : Apocalyptic: very interesting idea
[2016-11-07 19:34:02] RoftheN : Lol
[2016-11-07 19:34:06] RoftheN : But
[2016-11-07 19:34:12] micmix : numero: oh cool, I love our local market here in Ottawa
[2016-11-07 19:34:21] RoftheN : Won't the idiotic Trump save the world with his idocracy?
[2016-11-07 19:35:20] numero : micmix: byward :)
[2016-11-07 19:35:29] numero : ?
[2016-11-07 19:35:47] micmix : I buy almost all meat and vegetables from local farmers, too bad noone accepts bitcoin
[2016-11-07 19:36:31] numero : yes, I hope you can understand that profit margins are so thin, processing and tax fees must be minimized ;)
[2016-11-07 19:37:02] numero : i guess bitcoin would be ok for that . . .
[2016-11-07 19:37:12] numero : differnet skill set from most market gardeners though
[2016-11-07 19:38:04] micmix : so you're on byward market? I probably bought some stuff from you ;-)
[2016-11-07 19:38:37] numero : haha, no I'm not at byward . . . thank you for supporting your local food producers though
[2016-11-07 19:40:02] micmix : yeah, it's more expensive but quality so much better than supermarket junk
[2016-11-07 19:41:02] numero : hard to beat quality
[2016-11-07 19:47:22] NL007 : zec futures are not moving a lot
[2016-11-07 19:49:27] kradiav : noone wants to touch a rotten fish
[2016-11-07 19:58:10] PoloniexCEO : Zec going up to 1m :)
[2016-11-07 20:03:36] CapitalGains : 1 million satoshis
[2016-11-07 20:05:07] mjones : Lol that zec wall on here
[2016-11-07 20:05:24] mjones : Was 114 someone took it down
[2016-11-07 20:07:04] sleger : that someone is building a short
[2016-11-07 20:08:11] sleger : going to be a nice rekt
[2016-11-07 20:08:22] JamesPolo : Hows does btc price here compared to bitfinex ?
[2016-11-07 20:08:31] wurstgelee : whis?
[2016-11-07 20:09:10] sleger : JamesPolo: more or less
[2016-11-07 20:09:22] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: You still in ZEC?
[2016-11-07 20:09:31] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-07 20:09:46] CapitalGains : Holding longs from 0.3?
[2016-11-07 20:09:54] wurstgelee : average way lower
[2016-11-07 20:09:56] sleger : better than from 3
[2016-11-07 20:10:02] CapitalGains : Good good.
[2016-11-07 20:10:11] micmix : JamesPolo: price here is based on okc usd and bitmex, check https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-11-07 20:10:25] sleger : so someone just sold 200 zec at those prices
[2016-11-07 20:10:37] JamesPolo : Thx
[2016-11-07 20:10:39] CapitalGains : I closed, waiting to buy ZEC below 0.1 if possible
[2016-11-07 20:10:39] wurstgelee : ouch
[2016-11-07 20:10:56] CapitalGains : If that someone were to get short squeezed...
[2016-11-07 20:11:29] wurstgelee : that someone prob hjas enough margin to survive that
[2016-11-07 20:11:29] NL007 : he will get Rekt
[2016-11-07 20:11:38] wurstgelee : otherwise it would be really stupid...
[2016-11-07 20:12:55] wurstgelee : fatfinger and now closing? :p
[2016-11-07 20:12:56] imabeast : dat buy wall
[2016-11-07 20:12:58] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-07 20:12:59] mjones : Zec pump would require a lot to not get rekt doing that
[2016-11-07 20:13:13] Apocalyptic : lol at that squeeze attempt
[2016-11-07 20:13:20] wurstgelee : funny :)
[2016-11-07 20:13:24] NL007 : 12631 ZEC mined and price is 0.38
[2016-11-07 20:13:39] wurstgelee : thats nothing
[2016-11-07 20:13:59] NL007 : Think when there are 130000+ in 1 month
[2016-11-07 20:14:08] NL007 : O-0
[2016-11-07 20:14:15] mjones : 675 zec in buy support on polo
[2016-11-07 20:14:19] wurstgelee : we're here and now tho ;)
[2016-11-07 20:14:59] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: I can't believe you're long ZEC
[2016-11-07 20:15:13] CapitalGains : It still seems quite plausible to me that someone with several hundred ZEC might suddenly realise that holding it is a bad idea, and crash Polo completely
[2016-11-07 20:15:21] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: why not? ;)
[2016-11-07 20:15:57] mjones : Can get 100-200 btc dumping zec now. Price will only go lower
[2016-11-07 20:16:29] wurstgelee : i allowed myself a risky gamble with ~12% of zec profits.
[2016-11-07 20:16:40] wurstgelee : i am fine with that ;)
[2016-11-07 20:16:49] sleger : risk reward is very good now being long zec
[2016-11-07 20:16:53] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-07 20:18:07] sleger : yes you (and I) are more likely to lose money than make, but if we make we make 10x or more what we would lose
[2016-11-07 20:18:14] CapitalGains : Except that the order book seems to be becoming more and more short heavy
[2016-11-07 20:18:20] wurstgelee : sleger: !
[2016-11-07 20:18:54] sleger : CapitalGains: it will only take going back to 0.3 to trigger the first liq
[2016-11-07 20:19:24] imabeast : i think someone bought all that zec at .14 to sell at .16 lmao
[2016-11-07 20:19:42] wurstgelee : imabeast: fatfinger, position size too big, now desparate? ;)
[2016-11-07 20:19:49] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-07 20:19:50] Rado : imabeast: that's not a bad trade actually
[2016-11-07 20:19:51] CapitalGains : sleger: I don't disagree... I just can't see the futures price going above Polo's price, or even very close to it.
[2016-11-07 20:20:00] Rado : ZEC price getting closer to Polo price
[2016-11-07 20:20:13] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: thats whats is gonna happen. each day a little closer
[2016-11-07 20:20:18] Rado : now only 100%
[2016-11-07 20:20:18] wurstgelee : until dec 30 ;)
[2016-11-07 20:20:34] sleger : CapitalGains: we only care about future price triggering cascade of margin calls
[2016-11-07 20:20:53] CapitalGains : I understand, gentlemen, and I wish you luck!
[2016-11-07 20:21:10] NL007 : Even a whale will think twice pumping zec
[2016-11-07 20:21:17] CapitalGains : I'd just feel more comfortable going long from a bit lower
[2016-11-07 20:21:39] wurstgelee : NL007: depends. whoever has all that buy support there, he knows his market share gets smaller every day
[2016-11-07 20:22:00] wurstgelee : so not planning a long accumulation period i assume...
[2016-11-07 20:22:29] wurstgelee : and buy support is a lot. so there are willing buyers with deep pockets
[2016-11-07 20:23:05] NL007 : wurstgelee: but support getting lowered each time we go lower
[2016-11-07 20:23:41] wurstgelee : orders get filled
[2016-11-07 20:23:57] wurstgelee : theres no wall pulling unless i missed something
[2016-11-07 20:24:13] NL007 : and new sells put up
[2016-11-07 20:24:15] wurstgelee : so that support is "real".. as real as it can get ;)
[2016-11-07 20:24:32] wurstgelee : yeah, no point in arguing. its a gamble. ;)
[2016-11-07 20:24:44] wurstgelee : we will see....
[2016-11-07 20:24:47] CapitalGains : I'm confused as to why someone is shorting 3 separate 1 ZEC orders per minute
[2016-11-07 20:25:37] NL007 : wurstgelee: when support falls below 500btc than things could go fast down
[2016-11-07 20:26:01] CapitalGains : Wurst and Sleger - this buy support isn't you guys?
[2016-11-07 20:26:23] sleger : not me
[2016-11-07 20:26:27] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-11-07 20:26:28] wurstgelee : neither
[2016-11-07 20:26:33] wurstgelee : my orders are all hidden
[2016-11-07 20:26:42] wurstgelee : why show them? to scare shorters?
[2016-11-07 20:26:45] wurstgelee : thats not my intend
[2016-11-07 20:26:46] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-07 20:27:05] CapitalGains : I also basically never show my bids.
[2016-11-07 20:27:19] wurstgelee : if i want them to get filled, i dont show them
[2016-11-07 20:27:22] wurstgelee : 99% of the time ;)
[2016-11-07 20:27:47] sleger : wurstgelee: to not pay that huge taker fee
[2016-11-07 20:28:00] hhhhh : wurstgelee: show them hide them ZEC will go down to at least 0.1 and im sure you know that too
[2016-11-07 20:28:16] CapitalGains : Well, it's nice to see some action on ZEC. First someone shorting 200, now 50 contracts of buy support.
[2016-11-07 20:28:32] wurstgelee : sleger: youre right, but that wouldn work with my educated fomo style :p
[2016-11-07 20:29:42] CapitalGains : Cheers fellas, good luck with your longs. I'll join you again in a few days. Don't forget about the Polo price, obvs ;)
[2016-11-07 20:29:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-07 20:43:04] wurstgelee : lolz @ zec ;)
[2016-11-07 20:43:14] public username 321 : zec longs get rekt
[2016-11-07 20:45:35] transisto : no long got rekt in a while
[2016-11-07 20:46:11] transisto : Those 65 are very tempting
[2016-11-07 20:46:19] public username 321 : transisto: yu think they pump it back up against the force of gravity?
[2016-11-07 20:46:42] transisto : because they'll have 20% in the end
[2016-11-07 20:47:13] public username 321 : sure, but if they are smart they pump in january or february or even later
[2016-11-07 20:47:20] wurstgelee : no
[2016-11-07 20:47:26] wurstgelee : the contract settles dec 30 ;)
[2016-11-07 20:47:30] public username 321 : accumulation first
[2016-11-07 20:47:38] public username 321 : before pump
[2016-11-07 20:48:00] transisto : they'll pump now because there is still no supply
[2016-11-07 20:48:22] transisto : it's already pumped, why fucking retard buy on the market when they can but the Future at less than half price
[2016-11-07 20:48:45] transisto : WTF ? gently caressing ? didn't write that
[2016-11-07 20:49:06] transisto : Oh I wrote The F*
[2016-11-07 20:49:12] public username 321 : fuck
[2016-11-07 20:49:16] public username 321 : lol
[2016-11-07 20:49:27] Transisto2 : the fuck
[2016-11-07 20:49:37] Transisto2 : fuck
[2016-11-07 20:50:12] kradiav : fucktorial
[2016-11-07 20:52:08] transisto : Common, someone grab that 64x 0.173 ...
[2016-11-07 20:52:17] NL007 : next time write FUK
[2016-11-07 20:52:49] transisto : wat da fuq
[2016-11-07 20:53:21] kradiav : fornication under consent of the king this
[2016-11-07 21:01:10] poes : fuck
[2016-11-07 21:01:13] poes : awesome
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.180006
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.209850
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 165 @ 0.180265
[2016-11-07 21:02:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 7 @ 0.207726
[2016-11-07 21:02:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.224997
[2016-11-07 21:02:50] wurstgelee : hahaha