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[2016-11-06 13:00:01] Formiga : Know that Zooko, ZEC developer, has been in inumerous projetcs and bailed out
[2016-11-06 13:00:15] Formiga : just google his stuff
[2016-11-06 13:00:17] rapidtrades : so like Elon Musk then?
[2016-11-06 13:01:08] Formiga : Whatever it does in the future the first thing is not to hold now... play the market
[2016-11-06 13:01:14] Formiga : wait until it finds a USD floor
[2016-11-06 13:01:29] rapidtrades : we are blessed to have Zooko
[2016-11-06 13:01:41] rapidtrades : he will lead us to greatness
[2016-11-06 13:01:55] Formiga : hahahaha
[2016-11-06 13:24:40] kradiav : rapidtrades: btw Zooko is just the CEO, he didn't even write code for it...
[2016-11-06 13:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50000 @ 706.78 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-06 13:27:02] rapidtrades : kradiav: he provides important guidance then
[2016-11-06 13:27:14] rapidtrades : sharing his wisdom with the ZEC devs
[2016-11-06 13:27:19] kradiav : rapidtrades: /cringe
[2016-11-06 13:27:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1930 @ 705.98
[2016-11-06 13:28:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1300 @ 705.19
[2016-11-06 13:28:31] rapidtrades : bitcorn down, zec up
[2016-11-06 13:29:48] shiroe : why everyone loves szec? lol
[2016-11-06 13:29:51] kradiav : #SlowRektWithZEC
[2016-11-06 13:31:00] rapidtrades : actually if u look at the logs majority of REKTS are margined shorts
[2016-11-06 13:31:35] rapidtrades : 1st time polo pumped over 120 of ur poor souls got reaped
[2016-11-06 13:31:52] kradiav : longs will get #rekt on settlement ;)
[2016-11-06 13:32:17] rapidtrades : yeah im sure longs are terrified of losing 0.14 btc
[2016-11-06 13:32:37] kradiav : free money for me :)
[2016-11-06 13:40:13] thomaskikansha : new low polo
[2016-11-06 13:51:13] shiroe : shit i finally got long zec and xbt. wew. Hope to not get rekt.
[2016-11-06 13:51:50] shiroe : This no volume drop is cheeesy.
[2016-11-06 13:56:46] mjones : never see zec so cheap
[2016-11-06 13:56:54] Tul : hi, I'm looking for an admin
[2016-11-06 13:57:06] Tul : it seems our IAPIP is blocked on the
[2016-11-06 13:57:30] Tul : it seems our IP is blocked on API
[2016-11-06 13:57:42] Tul : but we need to do a demo at our hackaton
[2016-11-06 13:57:57] Tul : so is it possible to unlock it plz
[2016-11-06 13:58:14] Tul : we won't spamyou, just need to show few orders
[2016-11-06 13:58:20] Tul : working
[2016-11-06 14:00:29] Tul : are you blocking keys or IP?
[2016-11-06 14:09:44] arbitrage001 : or crap
[2016-11-06 14:09:47] arbitrage001 : zcash going down
[2016-11-06 14:09:58] arbitrage001 : i will get wipe out if it goes down futher
[2016-11-06 14:10:04] arbitrage001 : please have merch
[2016-11-06 14:10:09] arbitrage001 : mercy
[2016-11-06 14:10:32] Tul : admins, plz?
[2016-11-06 14:11:13] RoftheN : Roger Ver is going to buy so many bitcoins so he can hardfork bitcoin into increasing blocksize
[2016-11-06 14:11:35] Rado : RoftheN: huh?
[2016-11-06 14:11:47] RoftheN : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5beup2/25_btc_block_rewards_might_be_coming_back_for/
[2016-11-06 14:12:24] Rado : Tul: I don't think they block by IP, unless yu specified it for your API key
[2016-11-06 14:12:28] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: lol :D
[2016-11-06 14:12:28] RoftheN : He's gonna give 12.5 BTC per block so that the pool will get all the miners and they can hardfork
[2016-11-06 14:12:31] Rado : maybe you are over your quota
[2016-11-06 14:12:44] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: did you add position?
[2016-11-06 14:12:49] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-06 14:12:52] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: going to add more at 0.1
[2016-11-06 14:13:06] arbitrage001 : checking the trade log, it hit 0.11 just now
[2016-11-06 14:13:07] wurstgelee : still lots of orders in that book ;)
[2016-11-06 14:13:15] Rado : arbitrage001: I don't get why you guys are buying ZEC
[2016-11-06 14:13:22] Rado : hope it pops for you so you can get out
[2016-11-06 14:13:25] Tul : ok @rado
[2016-11-06 14:13:39] wurstgelee : Rado: gambling a percentage of zec profits ;)
[2016-11-06 14:13:44] arbitrage001 : Rado: think wurstgelee and i share the same trading philosophy
[2016-11-06 14:13:56] arbitrage001 : down side risk is so low
[2016-11-06 14:14:02] arbitrage001 : and we have huge discount
[2016-11-06 14:14:04] wurstgelee : that :)
[2016-11-06 14:14:10] arbitrage001 : not sure why anyone wont bet
[2016-11-06 14:15:27] arbitrage001 : if we are wrong, we lose out some percentage of our profit a few days ago
[2016-11-06 14:15:34] arbitrage001 : if we win again, we will win big
[2016-11-06 14:15:41] lockhedge : Tul: you get "x-ratelimit-remaining", "x-ratelimit-reset", "x-ratelimit-limit" as response in headers, just stop what you are doing and wait a bit until rate limit is lifting again
[2016-11-06 14:15:52] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: couldnt have said it better ;)
[2016-11-06 14:16:15] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-11-06 14:22:44] laisee : arbitrage001 is right - anyone thinking of longing prolly made some money by doing that already. time to go back, jack, do it again ...
[2016-11-06 14:26:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 702.75
[2016-11-06 14:31:40] Tul : @lockhedge thx
[2016-11-06 14:31:48] BitMEX_Sam : Tul: What account are you attempting to access from?
[2016-11-06 14:31:57] BitMEX_Sam : You are clearly not fully blocked, or else you would not be chatting here.
[2016-11-06 14:32:20] Tul : no it seems it was our server
[2016-11-06 14:32:30] Tul : we stop to get response from your api
[2016-11-06 14:32:36] Tul : and it's a bit messy here
[2016-11-06 14:32:40] Tul : sorry
[2016-11-06 14:33:06] Tul : got to close other positions on other accounts, brb
[2016-11-06 14:36:01] Tuls2 : seems all good, hope this marketplace mak us win :D
[2016-11-06 14:40:33] thomaskikansha : just keep making new lows
[2016-11-06 14:41:20] thomaskikansha : .54
[2016-11-06 14:44:30] rapidtrades : h8tr
[2016-11-06 14:44:51] rapidtrades : h8r
[2016-11-06 14:47:01] laisee : One True Coin will revive when Trump takes the throne
[2016-11-06 14:47:28] wurstgelee : no. i wont. ever. please sell
[2016-11-06 14:47:31] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 14:47:55] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-11-06 14:50:55] rapidtrades : don't sell too hard tho cos you'll margin call our friend arbs
[2016-11-06 14:50:59] Rado : looks like 690-695 will be tested again
[2016-11-06 14:51:34] rapidtrades : he survived many great arbs only to be taken down by ZEC...truly sad
[2016-11-06 14:51:48] arbitrage001 : i have put up a small wall at 0.1
[2016-11-06 14:51:57] arbitrage001 : if it get hit, i will be in trouble
[2016-11-06 14:52:04] arbitrage001 : another bigger wall at 0.05
[2016-11-06 14:52:06] wurstgelee : will put up a small wall @ 0.101
[2016-11-06 14:52:09] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-06 14:52:09] arbitrage001 : in big serious trouble
[2016-11-06 14:52:17] arbitrage001 : dont hit me pls
[2016-11-06 14:52:21] arbitrage001 : at 0.05
[2016-11-06 14:52:23] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-11-06 14:52:33] rapidtrades : plz don't hit his bids
[2016-11-06 14:52:38] habibi : arbitrage001: don't worry, i dont plan to push price harder down in upcoming days
[2016-11-06 14:53:02] Rado : rapidtrades: who are you talking about?
[2016-11-06 14:53:10] rapidtrades : habibi: are u sure? cos that would devastate him
[2016-11-06 14:53:25] habibi : rapidtrades: tempting, but risk is too high at that area
[2016-11-06 14:53:27] NL007 : i think zec 0.5 price is crucial now
[2016-11-06 14:53:41] rapidtrades : habibi: i'm sure it's tempting you sociopath
[2016-11-06 14:53:49] habibi : rapidtrades: u welcome :)
[2016-11-06 14:54:11] wurstgelee : habibi: were the 30 @ .15 yours?
[2016-11-06 14:54:19] wurstgelee : asks?
[2016-11-06 14:54:58] rapidtrades : he seems like the type
[2016-11-06 14:55:08] rapidtrades : to sell at 0.15
[2016-11-06 14:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25 @ 701.62
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 700.57
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 701.30
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19270 @ 701.22
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 700.29
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7927 @ 701.44
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 700.77
[2016-11-06 14:56:10] rapidtrades : bitcorn plz
[2016-11-06 14:56:19] rapidtrades : don't spam chat
[2016-11-06 14:56:59] kradiav : ZEC new lows (ATL) on polo
[2016-11-06 14:57:20] wurstgelee : yay \o/
[2016-11-06 14:57:23] NL007 : almost 10000 zec supply
[2016-11-06 14:57:26] NL007 : 0-o
[2016-11-06 14:57:29] habibi : kradiav: don't lie, new lows were 16 minutes ago
[2016-11-06 14:57:45] rapidtrades : oh no....0.536 vs 0.53
[2016-11-06 14:57:50] rapidtrades : lock the man up for lying
[2016-11-06 14:58:08] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-06 14:58:16] habibi : psychologically its a huge difference rapid rapid
[2016-11-06 14:58:31] NL007 : new ATL soon
[2016-11-06 14:58:38] NL007 : dont worry
[2016-11-06 14:58:40] rapidtrades : doesn't matter until we break 0.5
[2016-11-06 14:58:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1400 @ 699.75
[2016-11-06 14:58:45] rapidtrades : this is jut noise
[2016-11-06 14:58:46] kradiav : I see ATL already, huh? 0.053 at https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/zecbtc/30m
[2016-11-06 14:58:57] wurstgelee : doesnt matter if we brake .4
[2016-11-06 14:59:04] wurstgelee : if we do, we will probably have .1 here ...
[2016-11-06 14:59:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 14:59:06] laisee : a base to recover off when trump enters white house
[2016-11-06 14:59:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1300 @ 699.32
[2016-11-06 14:59:07] kradiav : 0.53*
[2016-11-06 14:59:26] wurstgelee : *break
[2016-11-06 14:59:28] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-06 14:59:30] rapidtrades : kradiav: that happened 10 mins ago
[2016-11-06 14:59:31] NL007 : wurstgelee: be lucky if 0.1 holds
[2016-11-06 14:59:44] wurstgelee : NL007: i would prefer .07 tbh
[2016-11-06 14:59:47] wurstgelee : roughly
[2016-11-06 14:59:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 14:59:57] NL007 : wurstgelee: ok
[2016-11-06 15:00:36] NL007 : wurstgelee: daily zec supply is still growing
[2016-11-06 15:00:51] rapidtrades : if we drop to 0.3-0.4 on polo i'll prolly pick some up
[2016-11-06 15:00:52] wurstgelee : yes. linear, everyone knows
[2016-11-06 15:00:56] wurstgelee : same is nethash
[2016-11-06 15:01:49] laisee : someone feels OK buying @ 0.16. Is that u rapidtrades?
[2016-11-06 15:01:56] rapidtrades : if we get to 0.3-0.4 difference then buying here doesn't make sense
[2016-11-06 15:02:04] rapidtrades : cos where u can't participate in the upside
[2016-11-06 15:02:10] rapidtrades : here not where
[2016-11-06 15:02:40] NL007 : the difference in price between polo is just to big
[2016-11-06 15:03:04] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-06 15:03:14] laisee : crazy gap
[2016-11-06 15:03:28] wurstgelee : i wonder how long we stay at ~ 25% ...
[2016-11-06 15:03:29] kradiav : well, see the price of polo 1 week ago, plus we still have ~2 months to go
[2016-11-06 15:03:36] wurstgelee : or maybe 1/3
[2016-11-06 15:03:36] kradiav : of bitmex*
[2016-11-06 15:03:57] wurstgelee : yeas, but even with all that considered....
[2016-11-06 15:03:59] wurstgelee : crazy spread
[2016-11-06 15:03:59] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: as soon as polo allow margin trading
[2016-11-06 15:03:59] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: we're at 32% now
[2016-11-06 15:04:02] arbitrage001 : things will change
[2016-11-06 15:04:09] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: yep. ~1/3
[2016-11-06 15:04:11] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 15:04:28] NL007 : maybe polo will drop hard
[2016-11-06 15:04:42] NL007 : i wouldnt be suprised
[2016-11-06 15:04:47] thomaskikansha : no one is lending out zec...
[2016-11-06 15:05:01] kradiav : arbitrage001: ye margin trading on polo will be really interesting
[2016-11-06 15:05:10] numero : which one of you whales wants all the zcash?
[2016-11-06 15:05:22] laisee : Polo is real coins, real miners trading
[2016-11-06 15:05:27] wurstgelee : some want some ;)
[2016-11-06 15:05:45] NL007 : kradiav: wont happen margin
[2016-11-06 15:05:59] rapidtrades : kraken may do it before them
[2016-11-06 15:06:09] rapidtrades : they said 'soon' in their initial announcement
[2016-11-06 15:06:12] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: what is the volume on kraken now?
[2016-11-06 15:06:37] NL007 : polo hasnt added new coins to margin for many months
[2016-11-06 15:06:45] NL007 : not even ETC
[2016-11-06 15:07:45] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: around 2k per day
[2016-11-06 15:08:10] rapidtrades : no wait that's polo
[2016-11-06 15:08:27] kradiav : ZEC is compared to ETH, so it has more chances, I think they are waiting for more supply, or they see that some whales are accumulated a lot of ZEC and they want more even distribution to not be manipulated easily
[2016-11-06 15:08:40] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: around 120
[2016-11-06 15:10:16] rapidtrades : kraken prices now inline with polo, looks like miners found out about the premium
[2016-11-06 15:11:24] NL007 : zec miners are non-stop selling
[2016-11-06 15:11:34] NL007 : mine and sell
[2016-11-06 15:12:07] kradiav : yeap and the rate keeps increasing
[2016-11-06 15:12:38] kradiav : afaik it will more than double of what we have now
[2016-11-06 15:13:29] NL007 : in 1 month we will have 13x the supply what we now have
[2016-11-06 15:15:27] rapidtrades : 2m market cap is too small
[2016-11-06 15:15:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 4000 @ 722.79
[2016-11-06 15:17:28] kradiav : rapidtrades: one said that they should have made a future of the marketcap, it would be more logical, fair and less volatile than we experienced
[2016-11-06 15:18:00] rapidtrades : I know one, he's a smart guy
[2016-11-06 15:18:15] rapidtrades : related to the One True Coin no doubt
[2016-11-06 15:19:11] kradiav : :D
[2016-11-06 15:19:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 697.35
[2016-11-06 15:40:04] yerb : no trades or orderbook frozen on xpt swap
[2016-11-06 15:40:12] yerb : *xbt
[2016-11-06 15:53:50] wurstgelee : nothing frozen
[2016-11-06 16:06:37] habibi : i love that new bots :D
[2016-11-06 16:06:46] lockhedge : lol
[2016-11-06 16:07:18] 7658 : When does the system need an email verification to log you in? My email provider is down and I can't log in.
[2016-11-06 16:15:49] BitMEX_Wally : 7658: If your email provider is down then emails from BitMEX to you will have been bouncing, and so your email address would have been marked as unverified
[2016-11-06 16:17:30] 7658 : Not a bad policy to ensure notification of login, but loosing access to account sucks when you normally don't need email access to for it
[2016-11-06 16:19:00] BitMEX_Wally : We get people who report our Login Notifications as spam/abuse
[2016-11-06 16:19:15] BitMEX_Wally : So we have to be quite careful to make sure our emails are only sent to correct addresses
[2016-11-06 16:19:24] 7658 : i see
[2016-11-06 16:19:59] habibi : 7658: u can turn it off in settings
[2016-11-06 16:20:39] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Yes, but some people would rather complain to our ISP than turn off that setting
[2016-11-06 16:23:20] Rado : I love the login notifications
[2016-11-06 16:24:46] 7658 : BitMEX_Wally: What are account recovery options if email disappears?
[2016-11-06 16:29:20] 7658 : BitMEX_Wally: Will you ever offer email-less accounts. Public key only?
[2016-11-06 16:30:40] zcasher7777 : 0.17 its ok hhhhhh
[2016-11-06 16:31:32] BitMEX_Wally : Recovery options are the same as recovering 2FA, provide ID
[2016-11-06 16:32:11] BitMEX_Wally : 7658: Yes we are looking into public key only accounts
[2016-11-06 16:33:11] 7658 : BitMEX_Wally: +1
[2016-11-06 16:38:45] sleger : whgy is the swap 5$ below index ?
[2016-11-06 16:43:53] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Wally: that would be awesome
[2016-11-06 16:49:28] wurstgelee : sleger: dunno
[2016-11-06 16:49:30] wurstgelee : weird
[2016-11-06 17:02:43] QuantFocus : sleger: bearish
[2016-11-06 17:04:31] wurstgelee : that much? while btc i moving up atm?
[2016-11-06 17:04:36] wurstgelee : unusual imo
[2016-11-06 17:05:13] habibi : guess people dont like cheap bitcoin and will buy only as close to index as possible
[2016-11-06 17:06:44] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-06 17:09:00] QuantFocus : :whale: increasing short holdings below current index
[2016-11-06 17:13:03] lockhedge : no matter how the price develops the execution of this "big short" was very poor . probably a misconfigured bot as habibi mentioned earlier
[2016-11-06 17:17:08] hhhhh : what is happening with the BTC swap right now??
[2016-11-06 17:23:26] wurstgelee : the great beardom
[2016-11-06 17:25:48] jpc : Coming back and overshooting ?
[2016-11-06 17:26:29] hhhhh : jpc: yeah at least to 705
[2016-11-06 17:26:42] hhhhh : easy trade
[2016-11-06 17:26:42] NL007 : habibi: people seeing btc around 700
[2016-11-06 17:26:55] NL007 : btc-e 699
[2016-11-06 17:27:03] NL007 : thats why
[2016-11-06 17:27:16] hhhhh : NL007: btc-e is irrelevant
[2016-11-06 17:27:19] hhhhh : tiny
[2016-11-06 17:27:39] jpc : Bitfinex 709
[2016-11-06 17:28:07] NL007 : its tiny yes
[2016-11-06 17:33:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.015400
[2016-11-06 17:51:26] rapidtrades : ZEC on the move, 0.6
[2016-11-06 17:51:38] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: it is a bad news
[2016-11-06 17:51:49] arbitrage001 : my bid at 0.05 didnt get filled
[2016-11-06 17:53:46] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: what about ur bid at 0.1?
[2016-11-06 17:54:42] zcashequalslambo : zec goibg up
[2016-11-06 17:54:52] zcashequalslambo : is it because latest news?
[2016-11-06 17:55:21] rapidtrades : yes arbitrage001 bid didn't get filled
[2016-11-06 17:55:44] rapidtrades : should be on bloomberg soon
[2016-11-06 17:56:36] wurstgelee : thats inaccurate. its crashing. just a minor hickup. please short
[2016-11-06 17:56:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 17:57:17] wurstgelee : löl
[2016-11-06 17:57:30] thomaskikansha : good to short
[2016-11-06 17:58:29] wurstgelee : erher an offer of 80 @ .18
[2016-11-06 17:58:32] wurstgelee : *there is
[2016-11-06 17:58:33] hhhhh : ZEC is on the move! Major news coming out! Long ZEC
[2016-11-06 17:59:12] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: still there, the 0.1 bid
[2016-11-06 18:01:17] NL007 : hhhhh: what news?
[2016-11-06 18:01:29] sleger : zcashequalslambo: because lambos all end up burning in flames ?
[2016-11-06 18:01:49] hhhhh : NL007: you didnt hear??? :)
[2016-11-06 18:02:22] NL007 : hhhhh: lol
[2016-11-06 18:02:48] NL007 : hhhhh: you tell us xd
[2016-11-06 18:03:28] hhhhh : NL007: lmfao
[2016-11-06 18:03:49] NL007 : hhhhh: :)
[2016-11-06 18:05:14] thomaskikansha : thats it?
[2016-11-06 18:05:25] y1uy : bitcoin bull trap
[2016-11-06 18:05:32] NL007 : pump over
[2016-11-06 18:17:06] Kahir : zcash pump ?
[2016-11-06 18:28:49] mjones : almost all longs are not in profit in zec
[2016-11-06 18:31:41] wilhelm : Bitcoin bulltrap>
[2016-11-06 18:31:42] wilhelm : ?
[2016-11-06 18:33:46] Kahir : hmm
[2016-11-06 18:33:47] Kahir : could be
[2016-11-06 18:35:56] y1uy : might be some news from china
[2016-11-06 18:36:03] y1uy : bitcoin regulation
[2016-11-06 18:37:09] habibi : y1uy: of course, typical time for china officials to release some new laws is 2.36 am
[2016-11-06 18:38:42] wilhelm : Hmm, where do you guys catch up on Chinese Sources?
[2016-11-06 18:52:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.221875
[2016-11-06 18:52:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.232500
[2016-11-06 18:52:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.223165
[2016-11-06 18:53:20] Formiga : seriously how dumb someone is to short zec below 0.2
[2016-11-06 18:56:09] Kahir : wait
[2016-11-06 18:56:11] Kahir : its going up
[2016-11-06 19:04:08] zcashequalslambo : why bot
[2016-11-06 19:04:11] zcashequalslambo : why not
[2016-11-06 19:04:17] zcashequalslambo : zec is worth less than 0.5
[2016-11-06 19:04:32] zcashequalslambo : you know the price is high becoz of its scarcity
[2016-11-06 19:04:57] zcashequalslambo : but people are mining like crazy and selling everything they mine immediately
[2016-11-06 19:05:07] zcashequalslambo : so price will fall mostly due to miners
[2016-11-06 19:05:19] zcashequalslambo : not that its not worth current price
[2016-11-06 20:08:43] NL007 : Formiga: its not dumd to short zec if you know supply will be like 25x in 2 months
[2016-11-06 20:08:56] NL007 : dumb
[2016-11-06 20:11:47] wurstgelee : time will tell
[2016-11-06 20:13:37] kradiav : I really wish I could long zcash, good risk/reward amt-wish, but apart from that the basic economics make it looks so shitty :(
[2016-11-06 20:19:35] NL007 : kradiav: and a lot of buyers got really burned on first day of zec
[2016-11-06 20:19:57] NL007 : they wont touch it anymore
[2016-11-06 20:33:12] Kalman : and sellers too!
[2016-11-06 20:46:44] aethlios : short was a bargain when bitmex said officially cao of 10 stays. price was 3 that time. those people made a good profit if had adequate margin for liq. price above 10. needs right timing.
[2016-11-06 20:50:02] NL007 : aethlios: yes, but with bitmex you never know 10 could have changed
[2016-11-06 20:54:30] aethlios : NL007: big truth, that's why we heavily lobbying here in the chat. (haha)
[2016-11-06 21:27:15] NL007 : ZCLASSIC launched
[2016-11-06 21:27:39] NL007 : going to buy some coins and try my luck
[2016-11-06 21:28:46] aethlios : wait 2 years or 1 year at least to buy zcash or zcoin or any z something, let supply grow and price stabilize.
[2016-11-06 21:46:39] rapidtrades : aethlios: tnx for ur analysis bailout boy
[2016-11-06 21:46:55] wurstgelee : come on btc, 4800
[2016-11-06 21:46:57] wurstgelee : u can do it
[2016-11-06 21:48:22] aethlios : trump like pump.
[2016-11-06 21:49:17] RoftheN : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5bhfpq/bye_bye_ethereum_rsk_is_coming/
[2016-11-06 21:49:25] RoftheN : does this mean I should short eth?
[2016-11-06 21:52:07] wurstgelee : dunno, but i shorted because it lost half its nethash since zec launch
[2016-11-06 21:52:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 21:52:17] RoftheN : That too yes
[2016-11-06 21:52:17] rapidtrades : idk let's ask our resident ETH expert @sleger
[2016-11-06 21:52:36] RoftheN : And with the increasing Zcash mining reward, it will probably decrease even more
[2016-11-06 21:53:15] rapidtrades : zcash network stronk
[2016-11-06 21:54:44] rapidtrades : with limited supply and only 2m market cap, only a matter of time until shorts get flushed out again
[2016-11-06 21:55:23] aethlios : just don't get RSKed
[2016-11-06 21:56:36] sleger : Risk will probably be a huge success
[2016-11-06 21:56:45] sleger : probably as much as Lisk his older brother
[2016-11-06 21:57:57] RoftheN : Lol
[2016-11-06 21:58:07] RoftheN : The name isn't really well thought
[2016-11-06 21:58:17] RoftheN : Rsk sounds too risky
[2016-11-06 21:58:27] rapidtrades : sleger: thank u for ur opinion, altcoin expert
[2016-11-06 22:11:59] rapidtrades : did we break 50 cents in zcash?
[2016-11-06 22:20:11] rapidtrades : sleger: i thought the 'market' was predicting zcash at 30 cents?
[2016-11-06 22:20:20] rapidtrades : what happened to that mr. expert?
[2016-11-06 22:21:23] zcashequalslambo : if zcash breaks 50 then it goes down all the way or there should be rebound?
[2016-11-06 22:21:48] rapidtrades : u can't know until u see how it reacts imo
[2016-11-06 22:22:32] zcashequalslambo : it hit 0.5 severela times in last few mins
[2016-11-06 22:22:40] zcashequalslambo : keeps bouncing off it
[2016-11-06 22:25:36] NL007 : keeping my zec short until we reach 0.10-0.15 on polo
[2016-11-06 22:27:52] zcashequalslambo : same here
[2016-11-06 22:28:07] zcashequalslambo : looking at buy orders at polo
[2016-11-06 22:28:16] zcashequalslambo : it should drop below 0.5
[2016-11-06 22:28:20] zcashequalslambo : like in 10-15 min
[2016-11-06 22:29:13] dog : Can someone pls explain why poloniex price for Zec is 0.5 but here it is 0.18?
[2016-11-06 22:32:11] BitMEX_Sam : dog: This is the only market where shorting is possible and supply is not limited
[2016-11-06 22:33:30] hhhhh : dog: this security is a prediction for the price of ZCash on December 30th
[2016-11-06 22:33:54] hhhhh : dog: you can learn about this type of product by searching futures contracts on google
[2016-11-06 22:36:18] NL007 : we breached 0.5
[2016-11-06 22:36:39] zcashequalslambo : yeah
[2016-11-06 22:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 172 @ 0.015320
[2016-11-06 22:40:14] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: how can you generate another deposit address ?
[2016-11-06 22:40:24] zcashequalslambo : at this rate zec will end 0.01 in dec
[2016-11-06 22:41:15] NL007 : zcashequalslambo: 0.1 for sure
[2016-11-06 22:41:41] NL007 : we have not eveb reach max daily supply
[2016-11-06 22:41:46] NL007 : even
[2016-11-06 22:41:47] zcashequalslambo : miners are selling them at high rate
[2016-11-06 22:42:43] zcashequalslambo : meh, why i didnt know about this place when zec was worth several btc xD
[2016-11-06 22:42:54] zcashequalslambo : i would short hell out of it
[2016-11-06 22:42:57] habibi : zcashequalslambo: coz u would get rekt
[2016-11-06 22:43:04] kradiav : habibi: +1
[2016-11-06 22:43:06] zcashequalslambo : why so
[2016-11-06 22:43:17] wurstgelee : ask those who shorted the fuck out of it
[2016-11-06 22:43:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 22:43:20] habibi : zcashequalslambo: could it was so tempting to short even at 0.5 before spike up
[2016-11-06 22:43:54] zcashequalslambo : you mean the spike on 31st?
[2016-11-06 22:44:03] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-06 22:44:14] zcashequalslambo : they didnt brech 0.5 at that point
[2016-11-06 22:44:23] zcashequalslambo : i dont think it gonna happen now
[2016-11-06 22:44:36] wurstgelee : we were below .5 24 h earlier
[2016-11-06 22:44:51] wurstgelee : or 48
[2016-11-06 22:44:52] habibi : zcashequalslambo: just trust, u would get rekt before great short opportunity
[2016-11-06 22:44:53] Apocalyptic : zcashequalslambo: it reached something like 9 here
[2016-11-06 22:44:54] wurstgelee : dont recall exactly
[2016-11-06 22:44:55] NL007 : supply was than still low
[2016-11-06 22:45:59] zcashequalslambo : hmm
[2016-11-06 22:46:06] zcashequalslambo : what caused that spike?
[2016-11-06 22:46:09] zcashequalslambo : whales going in?
[2016-11-06 22:46:23] wurstgelee : polo trading zec @ 3300 btc
[2016-11-06 22:46:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 22:46:29] habibi : zcashequalslambo: if u would be here before, then ur shourt liquidation would cause that spike
[2016-11-06 22:46:34] hhhhh : habibi: i remember shorting ZEC at 3BTC here and thinking that I will buy a house ina coupple days and then withiin hours I was REKT and price spiked to 9 lol
[2016-11-06 22:46:45] habibi : hhhhh: nice house
[2016-11-06 22:46:48] NL007 : who was buying all those zec longs today
[2016-11-06 22:47:06] wurstgelee : i got some filled @ .111
[2016-11-06 22:47:12] kradiav : some could be profit closing as well
[2016-11-06 22:47:21] kradiav : profit taking*
[2016-11-06 22:47:26] wurstgelee : also maybe shorts closing, yep
[2016-11-06 22:47:32] NL007 : thats why we dont go full short or long
[2016-11-06 22:47:32] dog : If poloniex had ZEC shorting would that make the ZEC futures price here closer to the Poloniex ZEC price?
[2016-11-06 22:47:45] wurstgelee : no
[2016-11-06 22:47:52] zcashequalslambo : polo has no date
[2016-11-06 22:47:55] zcashequalslambo : this has
[2016-11-06 22:48:13] dog : Thanks
[2016-11-06 22:48:29] zcashequalslambo : you can excercise the contract on 16 dec
[2016-11-06 22:48:43] dog : Does this mean if poloniex ZEC price dropped 50% tomorrow, the ZEC shorting price here would also drop 50%
[2016-11-06 22:48:51] dog : Or would it drop more/less?
[2016-11-06 22:48:58] dog : I'm trying to understand the link
[2016-11-06 22:49:04] dog : I normally just short on poloniex
[2016-11-06 22:49:08] Apocalyptic : dog: you can't know the future
[2016-11-06 22:49:19] Apocalyptic : so nobody will be able to answer that
[2016-11-06 22:49:59] hhhhh : anyone of you gys know some info on ZEC margin trading on exchanges? I would love to short that 49 price...
[2016-11-06 22:50:22] zcashequalslambo : 0.111 is good for take profit for tonight? what do you think
[2016-11-06 22:50:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21000 @ 708.95 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-06 22:50:38] Apocalyptic : hhhhh: who here wouldn't :)
[2016-11-06 22:51:03] NL007 : hhhhh: lol
[2016-11-06 22:52:06] transisto : I think 0.1 / ZEC is a good price at this time, But arrount 0.015 or so at the end of the contract. Still safe to short if you are patient.
[2016-11-06 22:52:28] hhhhh : NL007: if Kraken rolled that out I would actually be nervous that i could not exit my short cause the coin would be shorted to oblivion. kind of like a mini 2008 financial crisis
[2016-11-06 22:53:17] transisto : make sure you keep a near 4:1 margin and not 1:2 because that's still a wildcard.
[2016-11-06 22:53:31] NL007 : transisto: yes
[2016-11-06 22:54:08] NL007 : learned it the hard way
[2016-11-06 22:54:34] mjones : should have 100x long btc. pump starting again
[2016-11-06 22:56:48] habibi : mjones: u should stop using should have
[2016-11-06 22:56:53] wilhelm : Hahaha
[2016-11-06 22:57:05] zcashequalslambo : earlier today contracts were selling at 0.14
[2016-11-06 22:57:16] zcashequalslambo : and the price was above 0.55
[2016-11-06 22:57:26] zcashequalslambo : they should drop by now
[2016-11-06 22:57:31] NL007 : zcashequalslambo: demand & supply
[2016-11-06 22:58:04] wilhelm : mjones: seems like still pumping
[2016-11-06 22:58:36] NL007 : 1 guy can even drive zec futures to 10btc if he has the btc and will
[2016-11-06 23:00:15] Apocalyptic : NL007: someone with that much money wouldn't do something that stupid
[2016-11-06 23:00:41] blacktuesday : hold on to your nutsack. BTC still going higher? :)
[2016-11-06 23:00:49] NL007 : Apocalyptic: i know
[2016-11-06 23:02:01] wilhelm : blacktuesday: seems like it
[2016-11-06 23:29:22] imabeast : this shits going to .08
[2016-11-06 23:41:44] bernx : Is there any chart to sell/buy on bitmex? xbt
[2016-11-06 23:44:35] public username 321 : this went south pretty quickly
[2016-11-06 23:50:53] public username 321 : aproximately 370k mined till end of december - if marketcap stable then zec 5 to 10 $ at settlement
[2016-11-06 23:53:31] l3f : I almost got liquidated with this stupid btc rumour bullshit
[2016-11-06 23:54:13] l3f : also at the insane funding rate for shorts
[2016-11-07 00:04:23] rapidtrades : if u know this site is bad for longing btc then don't do it
[2016-11-07 00:19:18] zanza : Short Trump now!
[2016-11-07 00:33:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 705.08
[2016-11-07 00:33:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 705.48
[2016-11-07 00:36:03] Rado : at what price do you get long to get REKT at 705.48?
[2016-11-07 00:36:33] Rado : I guess the guy invested 100% of funds at 710
[2016-11-07 00:37:41] Rado : LISK pumping
[2016-11-07 01:00:57] skn : so whats the difference between buying 100 contracts at 1 leverage vs 1 contract at 100 leverage. I notice the fees are different
[2016-11-07 01:04:29] BitMEX_Wally : skn: leverage does not change the position size, it changes how much margin is allocated to the position and thus your liquidation price
[2016-11-07 01:04:55] skn : its it normal to charge .3 on fees for a 1.35x short?
[2016-11-07 01:05:27] BitMEX_Wally : The "cost" in the order entry box refers to the margin required to open the position, it'a not a fee
[2016-11-07 01:05:51] skn : but it already says on realizedPNL -0.3
[2016-11-07 01:05:55] BitMEX_Wally : So for 1x the cost is 100% of the order value
[2016-11-07 01:05:56] skn : doesnt that mean they already charged me?
[2016-11-07 01:06:33] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh yes, what is your position size?
[2016-11-07 01:06:44] skn : 1.35x
[2016-11-07 01:06:49] skn : does it matter the absolute size?
[2016-11-07 01:06:59] BitMEX_Wally : That's leverage
[2016-11-07 01:07:11] skn : 1.35x of all my available blaance
[2016-11-07 01:07:12] BitMEX_Wally : the fees are charged on the position size
[2016-11-07 01:07:24] skn : ahh its 10,000
[2016-11-07 01:08:02] skn : i have 10 btc available and it set the leverage at 1.35x
[2016-11-07 01:08:14] skn : this is the first time i notice it charged me almost a third of a btc
[2016-11-07 01:10:05] BitMEX_Wally : RealisedPNL is cumulative
[2016-11-07 01:10:15] skn : for the day?
[2016-11-07 01:10:24] skn : ahh so this is is combined with a previous trade?
[2016-11-07 01:10:39] BitMEX_Wally : You can see the exact fee in your trade history:
[2016-11-07 01:10:42] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-11-07 01:11:16] skn : ahhh i got freaked out for a bit there, so just to be sure, that would be the PNL for the day right?
[2016-11-07 01:11:45] BitMEX_Wally : The RealisePNL entry in your wallet is per day
[2016-11-07 01:12:07] BitMEX_Wally : but the realised PNL shown on the position row is cumulative
[2016-11-07 01:12:43] skn : so i have a position open and the realisedPNL column is showing the PNL that already happen since the last funding event right?
[2016-11-07 01:12:54] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-11-07 01:13:06] skn : it is not just for the trade
[2016-11-07 01:13:09] skn : for the position
[2016-11-07 01:13:10] skn : i mean
[2016-11-07 01:13:14] skn : ok thanks, that helps
[2016-11-07 01:13:27] BitMEX_Wally : It's a bit confusing and we will fix this, the realised PNL column on the position row is lifetime XBTUSD realised PNL
[2016-11-07 01:13:30] skn : i was freaking out for a bit
[2016-11-07 01:13:45] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah sorry for the confusion
[2016-11-07 01:14:31] skn : np, i like this exhcange, is just that some things can be a bit confusing, my only experience trading is on polo and finex lol
[2016-11-07 01:18:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 29435 @ 699.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-07 01:29:57] small fich : buy or sell xbt ? guys
[2016-11-07 01:31:28] Nitu : Zec
[2016-11-07 01:32:02] knop : sell
[2016-11-07 01:50:52] Rado : buy
[2016-11-07 02:01:01] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.7725 (Friday at 6.7514 )
[2016-11-07 02:03:33] Rado : rapidtrades: thanks
[2016-11-07 02:03:37] Rado : I love this update from you
[2016-11-07 02:03:40] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-07 02:04:58] rapidtrades : news is 45 mins old though
[2016-11-07 02:05:11] Rado : XMR pop
[2016-11-07 02:05:14] Rado : any news?
[2016-11-07 02:05:37] rapidtrades : idk...where is jung1 btw?
[2016-11-07 02:05:51] Rado : haven't talked to him in a long time
[2016-11-07 02:06:08] Rado : not sure if he is opposite time zone from me
[2016-11-07 02:06:12] rapidtrades : We have spent recent weeks modeling the fixing mechanism for $/CNY. In the process, we uncovered meaningful asymmetry, meaning that the RMB does not reverse declines made on Dollar strength when the Dollar weakens
[2016-11-07 02:06:22] rapidtrades : Goldman on Yuan fixings ^
[2016-11-07 02:06:35] Rado : uh hu
[2016-11-07 02:07:16] rapidtrades : i think he's asian....mal-asian maybe?
[2016-11-07 02:07:27] rapidtrades : or was that arbirtage1
[2016-11-07 02:39:58] Cryptlex : If I place an order first and someone offers the same price, do I get filled first?
[2016-11-07 02:41:45] Rado : That's a good question I meant to ask it a few times, but always forget
[2016-11-07 02:41:58] jose : ofc
[2016-11-07 02:42:02] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: what is the answer to Cryptlex question
[2016-11-07 02:43:46] j8 : price-time priority like every exchange
[2016-11-07 02:45:21] cryptowolf : whats up trolls
[2016-11-07 02:46:24] cryptowolf : btc looking bullish...what ya'll think?
[2016-11-07 02:46:41] rapidtrades : not rly, no
[2016-11-07 02:47:31] cryptowolf : 700 support holding pretty well
[2016-11-07 02:47:50] rapidtrades : it's not support if price keeps breaking it
[2016-11-07 02:48:55] cryptowolf : good point
[2016-11-07 02:50:00] cryptowolf : you think it'll break down to 600's high 500 levels?
[2016-11-07 02:52:05] cryptowolf : not likely... isay more likely we see 800's
[2016-11-07 02:52:47] rapidtrades : i'm long but i don't trust it...that's all i can say