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[2016-11-06 10:30:37] raver36 : what does cross mean in the leverage tab?
[2016-11-06 10:31:05] raver36 : and how is it different from '1x'?
[2016-11-06 10:36:58] habibi : raver36: u think it would be the same if Jesus would die on 1x instead cross?
[2016-11-06 10:37:23] raver36 : I'm just asking, what 'cross' means
[2016-11-06 10:37:35] raver36 : It's obvious that it is the 100x leverage
[2016-11-06 10:38:13] raver36 : And, also, why it is the default option
[2016-11-06 10:39:19] l3f : raver36: cross means "just fuck my shit up if I get liquidated"
[2016-11-06 10:40:22] lockhedge : raver36: Cross Margin: Margin is shared between open positions. When needed, a position will draw more margin from the total account balance to avoid liquidation. Isolated Margin: Margin assigned to a position is restricted to a certain amount. If the margin falls below the Maintenance Margin level, the position is liquidated. However, you can add and remove margin at will under this method. https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2016-11-06 10:41:03] raver36 : lockhedge: Thank you!
[2016-11-06 10:55:00] raver36 : In this formula, for the final funding rate calculation:
[2016-11-06 10:55:02] raver36 : Funding Rate (F) = Premium Index (P) + clamp(Interest Rate (I) - Premium Index (P), 0.05%, -0.05%)
[2016-11-06 10:55:23] raver36 : What does 'clamp' mean?
[2016-11-06 11:00:15] zcashequalslambo : where is this wall on 222000 from
[2016-11-06 11:00:53] kingkrung : zcashequalslambo: somebody has to sell, because he will be otherwise liquitated?
[2016-11-06 11:01:18] zcashequalslambo : zcash is dropping hard on poloniex
[2016-11-06 11:01:18] kingkrung : zcashequalslambo: buy I mean
[2016-11-06 11:01:39] kingkrung : or what do you think?
[2016-11-06 11:01:41] chromaticcr1 : lol 253 buy order 0.222
[2016-11-06 11:01:47] zcashequalslambo : how the hell he needs to buy
[2016-11-06 11:01:50] zcashequalslambo : when its dropping
[2016-11-06 11:02:13] zcashequalslambo : please explain
[2016-11-06 11:02:37] kingkrung : zcashequalslambo: ok, different. he tries to keep the price up buy selling high?
[2016-11-06 11:03:23] kingkrung : sorry. by buying in more?
[2016-11-06 11:03:30] zcashequalslambo : isnt the contract linked to the price on poloniex?
[2016-11-06 11:04:28] kingkrung : no, its not directly. the contract is the price of a zec on 31.12.2016. its not linked directly.
[2016-11-06 11:07:37] kingkrung : polo is just used to calc some margin, I do not fully understand this either
[2016-11-06 11:09:22] zcashequalslambo : alright
[2016-11-06 11:09:52] zcashequalslambo : how do you view upcoming elections? do oyu think altcoins as well as bitcoin will drop? since they are viewed as rather risky assets
[2016-11-06 11:09:57] zcashequalslambo : esp alctoins
[2016-11-06 11:17:53] NL007 : chromaticcr1: he run away
[2016-11-06 11:18:08] chromaticcr1 : boo!
[2016-11-06 11:18:58] NL007 : Zec will go below 0.1
[2016-11-06 11:19:56] NL007 : buy support is slowy being moved down
[2016-11-06 11:35:13] zcashequalslambo : on polo its falling but here its going down haha
[2016-11-06 11:35:21] zcashequalslambo : going ujp*
[2016-11-06 11:35:58] zcashequalslambo : soon breaks atl
[2016-11-06 11:55:37] shiroe : can u even profit on zec at x2? why not try x100 xbt instead. lol
[2016-11-06 12:00:45] shiroe : That 0.2335%
[2016-11-06 12:01:08] shiroe : good time to long xbt? :P
[2016-11-06 12:03:32] RoftheN : ooh what's this
[2016-11-06 12:04:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.201923
[2016-11-06 12:04:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 10 @ 0.213530
[2016-11-06 12:05:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 26 @ 0.184341
[2016-11-06 12:05:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 2 @ 0.181500
[2016-11-06 12:05:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 4 @ 0.184339
[2016-11-06 12:06:04] RoftheN : how strange
[2016-11-06 12:06:24] zcashequalslambo : meh
[2016-11-06 12:06:33] zcashequalslambo : should havbe set lower short price
[2016-11-06 12:06:37] zcashequalslambo : hopefull it recovers
[2016-11-06 12:06:42] zcashequalslambo : wanna jump in short again
[2016-11-06 12:06:48] small fich : hello , do you know how to calculate the funding rate for xbt ?
[2016-11-06 12:08:19] lockhedge : small fich: read "Funding Calculation" here (and follow the links) https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-11-06 12:08:48] RoftheN : Poor 26 guy
[2016-11-06 12:09:24] lockhedge : are rapid and wurst still alive?
[2016-11-06 12:10:39] RoftheN : I'm happy I didn't use x2
[2016-11-06 12:11:00] kradiav : pretty stupid to long zcash without full liq protection
[2016-11-06 12:15:29] RoftheN : 500
[2016-11-06 12:15:43] RoftheN : Guess I'll be safe for liquidation
[2016-11-06 12:16:31] chromaticcr1 : I appreciate thebravery of the 500 guy on zec
[2016-11-06 12:17:54] RoftheN : Wel'l it's possible because of Poloniex will always be 3x higher
[2016-11-06 12:18:47] aethlios : maybe 0.05 a good price to bet on dec. 30
[2016-11-06 12:19:34] RoftheN : Sounds about right, but there will be pumps in between
[2016-11-06 12:19:36] 7658 : 0.015
[2016-11-06 12:20:08] kradiav : we are not even at the half rate of mining that we will have at full speed, we will be for weeks at full speed before the contract settles, way lower than 0.05
[2016-11-06 12:20:22] shiroe : wow 500 order, maybe it was a 500 short position wanna close?
[2016-11-06 12:20:43] kradiav : 500 long? :D
[2016-11-06 12:21:09] aethlios : pumps but the contract will start following and be more spot sensitive as we approach expiration, it all now to bet the polo final 30 dec. price
[2016-11-06 12:21:23] negamax : could be a bot, there was a 350 order at .22 which disappeared at price swing; don't count on it :D
[2016-11-06 12:21:43] kradiav : ah order? I though position
[2016-11-06 12:21:45] kradiav : thought*
[2016-11-06 12:22:00] RoftheN : But we all know the final 30 dec price is much lower than this, yet the price doesn't go much lower than htis
[2016-11-06 12:22:21] shiroe : damn zec, everyday it loses 30% lol
[2016-11-06 12:22:32] RoftheN : Well shiroe, that's just the mining reward design
[2016-11-06 12:22:43] negamax : zec's inflation will rise linearly; so it should go down
[2016-11-06 12:23:04] thomaskikansha : 500 bid :o
[2016-11-06 12:23:16] RoftheN : it went up from 17 to 18
[2016-11-06 12:23:22] kradiav : lol, someone is desperate
[2016-11-06 12:23:57] RoftheN : I guess I could escape out of it rn, but I'm too greedy
[2016-11-06 12:24:27] 7658 : Bitmex asking for verification email to login. But it never sends email....
[2016-11-06 12:24:34] thomaskikansha : 450@0.19
[2016-11-06 12:24:48] RoftheN : still no one taking it
[2016-11-06 12:24:48] kradiav : I hope they try to pump it
[2016-11-06 12:25:08] RoftheN : you guys all know it's worth less than 0.1, yet no one is taking it, why?
[2016-11-06 12:25:14] RoftheN : on 30rth dec
[2016-11-06 12:25:34] kradiav : not degen gambler like some :D
[2016-11-06 12:25:44] kradiav : get #rekt away
[2016-11-06 12:26:14] kradiav : more profit when shorting tops :P
[2016-11-06 12:26:52] cwfabc : maybe someone should be magincall
[2016-11-06 12:27:12] kradiav : also, short-side doesn't need fake-walls to go down, it will got < 0.05 organically while longers slow drown
[2016-11-06 12:27:23] thomaskikansha : if it pumps here I am more than happy to short it
[2016-11-06 12:28:42] aethlios : xmr polo bids 2100 btc, for xec 770.
[2016-11-06 12:29:06] RoftheN : Someone should like sell 200 in the time he removes the 450
[2016-11-06 12:33:34] thomaskikansha : ouch
[2016-11-06 12:34:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 2 @ 0.139816
[2016-11-06 12:34:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 13 @ 0.126784
[2016-11-06 12:34:26] RoftheN : And someoen did
[2016-11-06 12:34:28] thomaskikansha : to 0
[2016-11-06 12:35:15] Jason G : god
[2016-11-06 12:35:48] thomaskikansha : new low on polo
[2016-11-06 12:36:31] cwfabc : anyone margincall ?
[2016-11-06 12:37:08] Formiga : only a few
[2016-11-06 12:37:18] Formiga : not many people will get margin called on buys...
[2016-11-06 12:37:34] thomaskikansha : 1x longs would not got MCed
[2016-11-06 12:37:35] Formiga : it's easier to play the buy side
[2016-11-06 12:37:41] Formiga : yea I only using 1x longs
[2016-11-06 12:38:05] cwfabc : not everyone
[2016-11-06 12:38:09] Formiga : If you have only 1 btc u can buy almost 10 contracts at this prices
[2016-11-06 12:38:43] Formiga : Poloniex will take a while to go below 0.3 so I just bought some here now
[2016-11-06 12:38:53] Formiga : we should stay at 0.2
[2016-11-06 12:39:26] cwfabc : maybe under 0.1
[2016-11-06 12:39:52] Formiga : not yet I think
[2016-11-06 12:40:01] Formiga : even with poloniex going down fast it will be very easy to pump
[2016-11-06 12:40:03] cwfabc : there's 53 days
[2016-11-06 12:40:28] Formiga : only 9k ZEC supply now... on 0.1 price it's only 900 btc market cap... whales can manipulate veeery easily... that's why it pumped to 3.0 the other day
[2016-11-06 12:40:33] cwfabc : down by down everyday
[2016-11-06 12:40:47] Formiga : Yea but it will pump again at some point
[2016-11-06 12:41:23] Formiga : it has 2k volume everyday, market cap now is 4.500 btc... if you compare to other coins like eth it's very very small
[2016-11-06 12:41:25] cwfabc : maybe yes maybe no,anyone konws
[2016-11-06 12:41:33] Formiga : no one knows*
[2016-11-06 12:42:02] Formiga : not saying for sure it will pump
[2016-11-06 12:42:10] Formiga : but by the facts it's not going below 0.3 fast
[2016-11-06 12:42:14] Formiga : such volume will hold it
[2016-11-06 12:42:28] RoftheN : But where is the bottom
[2016-11-06 12:43:24] Formiga : IMO by now it's 0.1 here in bitmex... but next month we should be below it
[2016-11-06 12:43:43] Formiga : reward blocks it's not high yet
[2016-11-06 12:43:47] rapidtrades : selling for 12 cents and 80% discount...rly
[2016-11-06 12:44:07] rapidtrades : now it's just getting silly
[2016-11-06 12:45:30] Formiga : Why 80% discount?
[2016-11-06 12:45:37] Formiga : This is futures, u can't think that way
[2016-11-06 12:45:50] Formiga : This is the price people assume ZEC will be Dec 30
[2016-11-06 12:45:52] RoftheN : Problem mostly for upcoming pumps is that most people by now are informed it will go down
[2016-11-06 12:45:56] aethlios : no more zcash, just everyday zcrash
[2016-11-06 12:46:14] RoftheN : But Formiga, the market isn't rational, you can't just assume people are actually betting for Dec 30
[2016-11-06 12:46:29] Formiga : Of course it will go down.... what u expected? Every hour there's 100 ZEC beeing mined now... that's a 50 btc every how
[2016-11-06 12:46:56] Formiga : RoftheN: that's true, people don't care about that... but they know it's going down anyway
[2016-11-06 12:47:13] RoftheN : Yes they know it's going down, but many expect it will go up when Polo pumps again
[2016-11-06 12:47:29] aethlios : total supply 10,000 imagine 303,000 dec 30
[2016-11-06 12:47:58] Formiga : Not just 303.000... the real problem is every block being mined every 2-3 minutes
[2016-11-06 12:48:02] Formiga : it's a lot of dumping
[2016-11-06 12:48:19] RoftheN : It's great for miners
[2016-11-06 12:48:27] RoftheN : too bad electricity cost too high
[2016-11-06 12:52:38] rapidtrades : 2m market cap is really low
[2016-11-06 12:53:12] rapidtrades : it will beat out monero so 100x increase likely
[2016-11-06 12:54:30] rapidtrades : in market cap not necessarily price
[2016-11-06 12:56:50] rapidtrades : at these prices it's not even worth it for me to dump my future...if we go down more i'll just buy some on polo
[2016-11-06 12:57:39] Formiga : dude u need to stop to think that way
[2016-11-06 12:57:49] Formiga : market cap is irrelevant now, the coin just launched 9 days ago
[2016-11-06 12:58:10] rapidtrades : it's just as relevant as ur supply argument
[2016-11-06 12:58:37] Formiga : ofc not dude
[2016-11-06 12:58:37] rapidtrades : both assume market doesn't discount
[2016-11-06 12:58:42] Formiga : have you ever heard of monetary inflation?
[2016-11-06 12:58:54] Formiga : Also why the fuck would you pay 300 usd now for ZEC?
[2016-11-06 12:59:14] rapidtrades : cos it's precious
[2016-11-06 12:59:16] Formiga : That's why you are losing money now and u will keep on doing if u buy on polo
[2016-11-06 12:59:18] Formiga : precious why?
[2016-11-06 12:59:24] Formiga : what has it achieved so far?
[2016-11-06 12:59:32] rapidtrades : it's the One True Coin
[2016-11-06 12:59:36] Formiga : lol
[2016-11-06 12:59:45] Formiga : yea keep thinking that way
[2016-11-06 12:59:51] hhhhh : ZEC is an all hype coin that has no proprietary technology since it is open source. I would compare it to Paycoin which was one of the biggest scams this year in crypto.
[2016-11-06 13:00:01] Formiga : Know that Zooko, ZEC developer, has been in inumerous projetcs and bailed out
[2016-11-06 13:00:15] Formiga : just google his stuff
[2016-11-06 13:00:17] rapidtrades : so like Elon Musk then?
[2016-11-06 13:01:08] Formiga : Whatever it does in the future the first thing is not to hold now... play the market
[2016-11-06 13:01:14] Formiga : wait until it finds a USD floor
[2016-11-06 13:01:29] rapidtrades : we are blessed to have Zooko
[2016-11-06 13:01:41] rapidtrades : he will lead us to greatness
[2016-11-06 13:01:55] Formiga : hahahaha
[2016-11-06 13:24:40] kradiav : rapidtrades: btw Zooko is just the CEO, he didn't even write code for it...
[2016-11-06 13:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50000 @ 706.78 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-06 13:27:02] rapidtrades : kradiav: he provides important guidance then
[2016-11-06 13:27:14] rapidtrades : sharing his wisdom with the ZEC devs
[2016-11-06 13:27:19] kradiav : rapidtrades: /cringe
[2016-11-06 13:27:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1930 @ 705.98
[2016-11-06 13:28:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1300 @ 705.19
[2016-11-06 13:28:31] rapidtrades : bitcorn down, zec up
[2016-11-06 13:29:48] shiroe : why everyone loves szec? lol
[2016-11-06 13:29:51] kradiav : #SlowRektWithZEC
[2016-11-06 13:31:00] rapidtrades : actually if u look at the logs majority of REKTS are margined shorts
[2016-11-06 13:31:35] rapidtrades : 1st time polo pumped over 120 of ur poor souls got reaped
[2016-11-06 13:31:52] kradiav : longs will get #rekt on settlement ;)
[2016-11-06 13:32:17] rapidtrades : yeah im sure longs are terrified of losing 0.14 btc
[2016-11-06 13:32:37] kradiav : free money for me :)
[2016-11-06 13:40:13] thomaskikansha : new low polo
[2016-11-06 13:51:13] shiroe : shit i finally got long zec and xbt. wew. Hope to not get rekt.
[2016-11-06 13:51:50] shiroe : This no volume drop is cheeesy.
[2016-11-06 13:56:46] mjones : never see zec so cheap
[2016-11-06 13:56:54] Tul : hi, I'm looking for an admin
[2016-11-06 13:57:06] Tul : it seems our IAPIP is blocked on the
[2016-11-06 13:57:30] Tul : it seems our IP is blocked on API
[2016-11-06 13:57:42] Tul : but we need to do a demo at our hackaton
[2016-11-06 13:57:57] Tul : so is it possible to unlock it plz
[2016-11-06 13:58:14] Tul : we won't spamyou, just need to show few orders
[2016-11-06 13:58:20] Tul : working
[2016-11-06 14:00:29] Tul : are you blocking keys or IP?
[2016-11-06 14:09:44] arbitrage001 : or crap
[2016-11-06 14:09:47] arbitrage001 : zcash going down
[2016-11-06 14:09:58] arbitrage001 : i will get wipe out if it goes down futher
[2016-11-06 14:10:04] arbitrage001 : please have merch
[2016-11-06 14:10:09] arbitrage001 : mercy
[2016-11-06 14:10:32] Tul : admins, plz?
[2016-11-06 14:11:13] RoftheN : Roger Ver is going to buy so many bitcoins so he can hardfork bitcoin into increasing blocksize
[2016-11-06 14:11:35] Rado : RoftheN: huh?
[2016-11-06 14:11:47] RoftheN : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5beup2/25_btc_block_rewards_might_be_coming_back_for/
[2016-11-06 14:12:24] Rado : Tul: I don't think they block by IP, unless yu specified it for your API key
[2016-11-06 14:12:28] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: lol :D
[2016-11-06 14:12:28] RoftheN : He's gonna give 12.5 BTC per block so that the pool will get all the miners and they can hardfork
[2016-11-06 14:12:31] Rado : maybe you are over your quota
[2016-11-06 14:12:44] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: did you add position?
[2016-11-06 14:12:49] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-06 14:12:52] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: going to add more at 0.1
[2016-11-06 14:13:06] arbitrage001 : checking the trade log, it hit 0.11 just now
[2016-11-06 14:13:07] wurstgelee : still lots of orders in that book ;)
[2016-11-06 14:13:15] Rado : arbitrage001: I don't get why you guys are buying ZEC
[2016-11-06 14:13:22] Rado : hope it pops for you so you can get out
[2016-11-06 14:13:25] Tul : ok @rado
[2016-11-06 14:13:39] wurstgelee : Rado: gambling a percentage of zec profits ;)
[2016-11-06 14:13:44] arbitrage001 : Rado: think wurstgelee and i share the same trading philosophy
[2016-11-06 14:13:56] arbitrage001 : down side risk is so low
[2016-11-06 14:14:02] arbitrage001 : and we have huge discount
[2016-11-06 14:14:04] wurstgelee : that :)
[2016-11-06 14:14:10] arbitrage001 : not sure why anyone wont bet
[2016-11-06 14:15:27] arbitrage001 : if we are wrong, we lose out some percentage of our profit a few days ago
[2016-11-06 14:15:34] arbitrage001 : if we win again, we will win big
[2016-11-06 14:15:41] lockhedge : Tul: you get "x-ratelimit-remaining", "x-ratelimit-reset", "x-ratelimit-limit" as response in headers, just stop what you are doing and wait a bit until rate limit is lifting again
[2016-11-06 14:15:52] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: couldnt have said it better ;)
[2016-11-06 14:16:15] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-11-06 14:22:44] laisee : arbitrage001 is right - anyone thinking of longing prolly made some money by doing that already. time to go back, jack, do it again ...
[2016-11-06 14:26:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 702.75
[2016-11-06 14:31:40] Tul : @lockhedge thx
[2016-11-06 14:31:48] BitMEX_Sam : Tul: What account are you attempting to access from?
[2016-11-06 14:31:57] BitMEX_Sam : You are clearly not fully blocked, or else you would not be chatting here.
[2016-11-06 14:32:20] Tul : no it seems it was our server
[2016-11-06 14:32:30] Tul : we stop to get response from your api
[2016-11-06 14:32:36] Tul : and it's a bit messy here
[2016-11-06 14:32:40] Tul : sorry
[2016-11-06 14:33:06] Tul : got to close other positions on other accounts, brb
[2016-11-06 14:36:01] Tuls2 : seems all good, hope this marketplace mak us win :D
[2016-11-06 14:40:33] thomaskikansha : just keep making new lows
[2016-11-06 14:41:20] thomaskikansha : .54
[2016-11-06 14:44:30] rapidtrades : h8tr
[2016-11-06 14:44:51] rapidtrades : h8r
[2016-11-06 14:47:01] laisee : One True Coin will revive when Trump takes the throne
[2016-11-06 14:47:28] wurstgelee : no. i wont. ever. please sell
[2016-11-06 14:47:31] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 14:47:55] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-11-06 14:50:55] rapidtrades : don't sell too hard tho cos you'll margin call our friend arbs
[2016-11-06 14:50:59] Rado : looks like 690-695 will be tested again
[2016-11-06 14:51:34] rapidtrades : he survived many great arbs only to be taken down by ZEC...truly sad
[2016-11-06 14:51:48] arbitrage001 : i have put up a small wall at 0.1
[2016-11-06 14:51:57] arbitrage001 : if it get hit, i will be in trouble
[2016-11-06 14:52:04] arbitrage001 : another bigger wall at 0.05
[2016-11-06 14:52:06] wurstgelee : will put up a small wall @ 0.101
[2016-11-06 14:52:09] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-06 14:52:09] arbitrage001 : in big serious trouble
[2016-11-06 14:52:17] arbitrage001 : dont hit me pls
[2016-11-06 14:52:21] arbitrage001 : at 0.05
[2016-11-06 14:52:23] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-11-06 14:52:33] rapidtrades : plz don't hit his bids
[2016-11-06 14:52:38] habibi : arbitrage001: don't worry, i dont plan to push price harder down in upcoming days
[2016-11-06 14:53:02] Rado : rapidtrades: who are you talking about?
[2016-11-06 14:53:10] rapidtrades : habibi: are u sure? cos that would devastate him
[2016-11-06 14:53:25] habibi : rapidtrades: tempting, but risk is too high at that area
[2016-11-06 14:53:27] NL007 : i think zec 0.5 price is crucial now
[2016-11-06 14:53:41] rapidtrades : habibi: i'm sure it's tempting you sociopath
[2016-11-06 14:53:49] habibi : rapidtrades: u welcome :)
[2016-11-06 14:54:11] wurstgelee : habibi: were the 30 @ .15 yours?
[2016-11-06 14:54:19] wurstgelee : asks?
[2016-11-06 14:54:58] rapidtrades : he seems like the type
[2016-11-06 14:55:08] rapidtrades : to sell at 0.15
[2016-11-06 14:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25 @ 701.62
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 700.57
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 701.30
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19270 @ 701.22
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 700.29
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7927 @ 701.44
[2016-11-06 14:55:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 700.77
[2016-11-06 14:56:10] rapidtrades : bitcorn plz
[2016-11-06 14:56:19] rapidtrades : don't spam chat
[2016-11-06 14:56:59] kradiav : ZEC new lows (ATL) on polo
[2016-11-06 14:57:20] wurstgelee : yay \o/
[2016-11-06 14:57:23] NL007 : almost 10000 zec supply
[2016-11-06 14:57:26] NL007 : 0-o
[2016-11-06 14:57:29] habibi : kradiav: don't lie, new lows were 16 minutes ago
[2016-11-06 14:57:45] rapidtrades : oh no....0.536 vs 0.53
[2016-11-06 14:57:50] rapidtrades : lock the man up for lying
[2016-11-06 14:58:08] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-06 14:58:16] habibi : psychologically its a huge difference rapid rapid
[2016-11-06 14:58:31] NL007 : new ATL soon
[2016-11-06 14:58:38] NL007 : dont worry
[2016-11-06 14:58:40] rapidtrades : doesn't matter until we break 0.5
[2016-11-06 14:58:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1400 @ 699.75
[2016-11-06 14:58:45] rapidtrades : this is jut noise
[2016-11-06 14:58:46] kradiav : I see ATL already, huh? 0.053 at https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/zecbtc/30m
[2016-11-06 14:58:57] wurstgelee : doesnt matter if we brake .4
[2016-11-06 14:59:04] wurstgelee : if we do, we will probably have .1 here ...
[2016-11-06 14:59:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 14:59:06] laisee : a base to recover off when trump enters white house
[2016-11-06 14:59:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1300 @ 699.32
[2016-11-06 14:59:07] kradiav : 0.53*
[2016-11-06 14:59:26] wurstgelee : *break
[2016-11-06 14:59:28] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-06 14:59:30] rapidtrades : kradiav: that happened 10 mins ago
[2016-11-06 14:59:31] NL007 : wurstgelee: be lucky if 0.1 holds
[2016-11-06 14:59:44] wurstgelee : NL007: i would prefer .07 tbh
[2016-11-06 14:59:47] wurstgelee : roughly
[2016-11-06 14:59:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 14:59:57] NL007 : wurstgelee: ok
[2016-11-06 15:00:36] NL007 : wurstgelee: daily zec supply is still growing
[2016-11-06 15:00:51] rapidtrades : if we drop to 0.3-0.4 on polo i'll prolly pick some up
[2016-11-06 15:00:52] wurstgelee : yes. linear, everyone knows
[2016-11-06 15:00:56] wurstgelee : same is nethash
[2016-11-06 15:01:49] laisee : someone feels OK buying @ 0.16. Is that u rapidtrades?
[2016-11-06 15:01:56] rapidtrades : if we get to 0.3-0.4 difference then buying here doesn't make sense
[2016-11-06 15:02:04] rapidtrades : cos where u can't participate in the upside
[2016-11-06 15:02:10] rapidtrades : here not where
[2016-11-06 15:02:40] NL007 : the difference in price between polo is just to big
[2016-11-06 15:03:04] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-06 15:03:14] laisee : crazy gap
[2016-11-06 15:03:28] wurstgelee : i wonder how long we stay at ~ 25% ...
[2016-11-06 15:03:29] kradiav : well, see the price of polo 1 week ago, plus we still have ~2 months to go
[2016-11-06 15:03:36] wurstgelee : or maybe 1/3
[2016-11-06 15:03:36] kradiav : of bitmex*
[2016-11-06 15:03:57] wurstgelee : yeas, but even with all that considered....
[2016-11-06 15:03:59] wurstgelee : crazy spread
[2016-11-06 15:03:59] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: as soon as polo allow margin trading
[2016-11-06 15:03:59] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: we're at 32% now
[2016-11-06 15:04:02] arbitrage001 : things will change
[2016-11-06 15:04:09] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: yep. ~1/3
[2016-11-06 15:04:11] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 15:04:28] NL007 : maybe polo will drop hard
[2016-11-06 15:04:42] NL007 : i wouldnt be suprised
[2016-11-06 15:04:47] thomaskikansha : no one is lending out zec...
[2016-11-06 15:05:01] kradiav : arbitrage001: ye margin trading on polo will be really interesting
[2016-11-06 15:05:10] numero : which one of you whales wants all the zcash?
[2016-11-06 15:05:22] laisee : Polo is real coins, real miners trading
[2016-11-06 15:05:27] wurstgelee : some want some ;)
[2016-11-06 15:05:45] NL007 : kradiav: wont happen margin
[2016-11-06 15:05:59] rapidtrades : kraken may do it before them
[2016-11-06 15:06:09] rapidtrades : they said 'soon' in their initial announcement
[2016-11-06 15:06:12] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: what is the volume on kraken now?
[2016-11-06 15:06:37] NL007 : polo hasnt added new coins to margin for many months
[2016-11-06 15:06:45] NL007 : not even ETC
[2016-11-06 15:07:45] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: around 2k per day
[2016-11-06 15:08:10] rapidtrades : no wait that's polo
[2016-11-06 15:08:27] kradiav : ZEC is compared to ETH, so it has more chances, I think they are waiting for more supply, or they see that some whales are accumulated a lot of ZEC and they want more even distribution to not be manipulated easily
[2016-11-06 15:08:40] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: around 120
[2016-11-06 15:10:16] rapidtrades : kraken prices now inline with polo, looks like miners found out about the premium
[2016-11-06 15:11:24] NL007 : zec miners are non-stop selling
[2016-11-06 15:11:34] NL007 : mine and sell
[2016-11-06 15:12:07] kradiav : yeap and the rate keeps increasing
[2016-11-06 15:12:38] kradiav : afaik it will more than double of what we have now
[2016-11-06 15:13:29] NL007 : in 1 month we will have 13x the supply what we now have
[2016-11-06 15:15:27] rapidtrades : 2m market cap is too small
[2016-11-06 15:15:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 4000 @ 722.79
[2016-11-06 15:17:28] kradiav : rapidtrades: one said that they should have made a future of the marketcap, it would be more logical, fair and less volatile than we experienced
[2016-11-06 15:18:00] rapidtrades : I know one, he's a smart guy
[2016-11-06 15:18:15] rapidtrades : related to the One True Coin no doubt
[2016-11-06 15:19:11] kradiav : :D
[2016-11-06 15:19:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 697.35
[2016-11-06 15:40:04] yerb : no trades or orderbook frozen on xpt swap
[2016-11-06 15:40:12] yerb : *xbt
[2016-11-06 15:53:50] wurstgelee : nothing frozen
[2016-11-06 16:06:37] habibi : i love that new bots :D
[2016-11-06 16:06:46] lockhedge : lol
[2016-11-06 16:07:18] 7658 : When does the system need an email verification to log you in? My email provider is down and I can't log in.
[2016-11-06 16:15:49] BitMEX_Wally : 7658: If your email provider is down then emails from BitMEX to you will have been bouncing, and so your email address would have been marked as unverified
[2016-11-06 16:17:30] 7658 : Not a bad policy to ensure notification of login, but loosing access to account sucks when you normally don't need email access to for it
[2016-11-06 16:19:00] BitMEX_Wally : We get people who report our Login Notifications as spam/abuse
[2016-11-06 16:19:15] BitMEX_Wally : So we have to be quite careful to make sure our emails are only sent to correct addresses
[2016-11-06 16:19:24] 7658 : i see
[2016-11-06 16:19:59] habibi : 7658: u can turn it off in settings
[2016-11-06 16:20:39] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Yes, but some people would rather complain to our ISP than turn off that setting
[2016-11-06 16:23:20] Rado : I love the login notifications
[2016-11-06 16:24:46] 7658 : BitMEX_Wally: What are account recovery options if email disappears?
[2016-11-06 16:29:20] 7658 : BitMEX_Wally: Will you ever offer email-less accounts. Public key only?
[2016-11-06 16:30:40] zcasher7777 : 0.17 its ok hhhhhh
[2016-11-06 16:31:32] BitMEX_Wally : Recovery options are the same as recovering 2FA, provide ID
[2016-11-06 16:32:11] BitMEX_Wally : 7658: Yes we are looking into public key only accounts
[2016-11-06 16:33:11] 7658 : BitMEX_Wally: +1
[2016-11-06 16:38:45] sleger : whgy is the swap 5$ below index ?
[2016-11-06 16:43:53] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Wally: that would be awesome
[2016-11-06 16:49:28] wurstgelee : sleger: dunno
[2016-11-06 16:49:30] wurstgelee : weird
[2016-11-06 17:02:43] QuantFocus : sleger: bearish
[2016-11-06 17:04:31] wurstgelee : that much? while btc i moving up atm?
[2016-11-06 17:04:36] wurstgelee : unusual imo
[2016-11-06 17:05:13] habibi : guess people dont like cheap bitcoin and will buy only as close to index as possible
[2016-11-06 17:06:44] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-06 17:09:00] QuantFocus : :whale: increasing short holdings below current index
[2016-11-06 17:13:03] lockhedge : no matter how the price develops the execution of this "big short" was very poor . probably a misconfigured bot as habibi mentioned earlier
[2016-11-06 17:17:08] hhhhh : what is happening with the BTC swap right now??
[2016-11-06 17:23:26] wurstgelee : the great beardom
[2016-11-06 17:25:48] jpc : Coming back and overshooting ?
[2016-11-06 17:26:29] hhhhh : jpc: yeah at least to 705
[2016-11-06 17:26:42] hhhhh : easy trade
[2016-11-06 17:26:42] NL007 : habibi: people seeing btc around 700
[2016-11-06 17:26:55] NL007 : btc-e 699
[2016-11-06 17:27:03] NL007 : thats why
[2016-11-06 17:27:16] hhhhh : NL007: btc-e is irrelevant
[2016-11-06 17:27:19] hhhhh : tiny
[2016-11-06 17:27:39] jpc : Bitfinex 709
[2016-11-06 17:28:07] NL007 : its tiny yes
[2016-11-06 17:33:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.015400
[2016-11-06 17:51:26] rapidtrades : ZEC on the move, 0.6
[2016-11-06 17:51:38] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: it is a bad news
[2016-11-06 17:51:49] arbitrage001 : my bid at 0.05 didnt get filled
[2016-11-06 17:53:46] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: what about ur bid at 0.1?
[2016-11-06 17:54:42] zcashequalslambo : zec goibg up
[2016-11-06 17:54:52] zcashequalslambo : is it because latest news?
[2016-11-06 17:55:21] rapidtrades : yes arbitrage001 bid didn't get filled
[2016-11-06 17:55:44] rapidtrades : should be on bloomberg soon
[2016-11-06 17:56:36] wurstgelee : thats inaccurate. its crashing. just a minor hickup. please short
[2016-11-06 17:56:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 17:57:17] wurstgelee : löl
[2016-11-06 17:57:30] thomaskikansha : good to short
[2016-11-06 17:58:29] wurstgelee : erher an offer of 80 @ .18
[2016-11-06 17:58:32] wurstgelee : *there is
[2016-11-06 17:58:33] hhhhh : ZEC is on the move! Major news coming out! Long ZEC
[2016-11-06 17:59:12] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: still there, the 0.1 bid
[2016-11-06 18:01:17] NL007 : hhhhh: what news?
[2016-11-06 18:01:29] sleger : zcashequalslambo: because lambos all end up burning in flames ?
[2016-11-06 18:01:49] hhhhh : NL007: you didnt hear??? :)
[2016-11-06 18:02:22] NL007 : hhhhh: lol
[2016-11-06 18:02:48] NL007 : hhhhh: you tell us xd
[2016-11-06 18:03:28] hhhhh : NL007: lmfao
[2016-11-06 18:03:49] NL007 : hhhhh: :)
[2016-11-06 18:05:14] thomaskikansha : thats it?
[2016-11-06 18:05:25] y1uy : bitcoin bull trap
[2016-11-06 18:05:32] NL007 : pump over
[2016-11-06 18:17:06] Kahir : zcash pump ?
[2016-11-06 18:28:49] mjones : almost all longs are not in profit in zec
[2016-11-06 18:31:41] wilhelm : Bitcoin bulltrap>
[2016-11-06 18:31:42] wilhelm : ?
[2016-11-06 18:33:46] Kahir : hmm
[2016-11-06 18:33:47] Kahir : could be
[2016-11-06 18:35:56] y1uy : might be some news from china
[2016-11-06 18:36:03] y1uy : bitcoin regulation
[2016-11-06 18:37:09] habibi : y1uy: of course, typical time for china officials to release some new laws is 2.36 am
[2016-11-06 18:38:42] wilhelm : Hmm, where do you guys catch up on Chinese Sources?
[2016-11-06 18:52:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.221875
[2016-11-06 18:52:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.232500
[2016-11-06 18:52:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.223165
[2016-11-06 18:53:20] Formiga : seriously how dumb someone is to short zec below 0.2
[2016-11-06 18:56:09] Kahir : wait
[2016-11-06 18:56:11] Kahir : its going up
[2016-11-06 19:04:08] zcashequalslambo : why bot
[2016-11-06 19:04:11] zcashequalslambo : why not
[2016-11-06 19:04:17] zcashequalslambo : zec is worth less than 0.5
[2016-11-06 19:04:32] zcashequalslambo : you know the price is high becoz of its scarcity
[2016-11-06 19:04:57] zcashequalslambo : but people are mining like crazy and selling everything they mine immediately
[2016-11-06 19:05:07] zcashequalslambo : so price will fall mostly due to miners
[2016-11-06 19:05:19] zcashequalslambo : not that its not worth current price
[2016-11-06 20:08:43] NL007 : Formiga: its not dumd to short zec if you know supply will be like 25x in 2 months
[2016-11-06 20:08:56] NL007 : dumb
[2016-11-06 20:11:47] wurstgelee : time will tell
[2016-11-06 20:13:37] kradiav : I really wish I could long zcash, good risk/reward amt-wish, but apart from that the basic economics make it looks so shitty :(
[2016-11-06 20:19:35] NL007 : kradiav: and a lot of buyers got really burned on first day of zec
[2016-11-06 20:19:57] NL007 : they wont touch it anymore
[2016-11-06 20:33:12] Kalman : and sellers too!
[2016-11-06 20:46:44] aethlios : short was a bargain when bitmex said officially cao of 10 stays. price was 3 that time. those people made a good profit if had adequate margin for liq. price above 10. needs right timing.
[2016-11-06 20:50:02] NL007 : aethlios: yes, but with bitmex you never know 10 could have changed
[2016-11-06 20:54:30] aethlios : NL007: big truth, that's why we heavily lobbying here in the chat. (haha)
[2016-11-06 21:27:15] NL007 : ZCLASSIC launched
[2016-11-06 21:27:39] NL007 : going to buy some coins and try my luck
[2016-11-06 21:28:46] aethlios : wait 2 years or 1 year at least to buy zcash or zcoin or any z something, let supply grow and price stabilize.
[2016-11-06 21:46:39] rapidtrades : aethlios: tnx for ur analysis bailout boy
[2016-11-06 21:46:55] wurstgelee : come on btc, 4800
[2016-11-06 21:46:57] wurstgelee : u can do it
[2016-11-06 21:48:22] aethlios : trump like pump.
[2016-11-06 21:49:17] RoftheN : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5bhfpq/bye_bye_ethereum_rsk_is_coming/
[2016-11-06 21:49:25] RoftheN : does this mean I should short eth?
[2016-11-06 21:52:07] wurstgelee : dunno, but i shorted because it lost half its nethash since zec launch
[2016-11-06 21:52:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 21:52:17] RoftheN : That too yes
[2016-11-06 21:52:17] rapidtrades : idk let's ask our resident ETH expert @sleger
[2016-11-06 21:52:36] RoftheN : And with the increasing Zcash mining reward, it will probably decrease even more
[2016-11-06 21:53:15] rapidtrades : zcash network stronk
[2016-11-06 21:54:44] rapidtrades : with limited supply and only 2m market cap, only a matter of time until shorts get flushed out again
[2016-11-06 21:55:23] aethlios : just don't get RSKed
[2016-11-06 21:56:36] sleger : Risk will probably be a huge success
[2016-11-06 21:56:45] sleger : probably as much as Lisk his older brother
[2016-11-06 21:57:57] RoftheN : Lol
[2016-11-06 21:58:07] RoftheN : The name isn't really well thought
[2016-11-06 21:58:17] RoftheN : Rsk sounds too risky
[2016-11-06 21:58:27] rapidtrades : sleger: thank u for ur opinion, altcoin expert
[2016-11-06 22:11:59] rapidtrades : did we break 50 cents in zcash?
[2016-11-06 22:20:11] rapidtrades : sleger: i thought the 'market' was predicting zcash at 30 cents?
[2016-11-06 22:20:20] rapidtrades : what happened to that mr. expert?
[2016-11-06 22:21:23] zcashequalslambo : if zcash breaks 50 then it goes down all the way or there should be rebound?
[2016-11-06 22:21:48] rapidtrades : u can't know until u see how it reacts imo
[2016-11-06 22:22:32] zcashequalslambo : it hit 0.5 severela times in last few mins
[2016-11-06 22:22:40] zcashequalslambo : keeps bouncing off it
[2016-11-06 22:25:36] NL007 : keeping my zec short until we reach 0.10-0.15 on polo
[2016-11-06 22:27:52] zcashequalslambo : same here
[2016-11-06 22:28:07] zcashequalslambo : looking at buy orders at polo
[2016-11-06 22:28:16] zcashequalslambo : it should drop below 0.5
[2016-11-06 22:28:20] zcashequalslambo : like in 10-15 min
[2016-11-06 22:29:13] dog : Can someone pls explain why poloniex price for Zec is 0.5 but here it is 0.18?