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[2016-11-05 16:12:27] numero : y1uy: habibi questions your judgement, but I think your hearts in the right place
[2016-11-05 16:13:15] y1uy : numero: I don't even know the guy, is he a good trader?
[2016-11-05 16:13:46] y1uy : I'm not a great trader, whatever I say should be taken with a grain of salt.
[2016-11-05 16:13:58] y1uy : that being said, Bitcoin will start going up soon
[2016-11-05 16:14:22] numero : y1uy: I'm not sure, he just trades his own, doesn't give advice here
[2016-11-05 16:23:02] NL007 : it would be nice to see more coins added here
[2016-11-05 16:24:34] Rado : NL007: I would rather see Gold, Oil and other futures
[2016-11-05 16:24:48] NL007 : Rado: yes
[2016-11-05 16:25:37] javierstone : whale club has those
[2016-11-05 16:36:42] zcasher7777 : zec is going down
[2016-11-05 16:36:53] zcasher7777 : 1 week and bye bye zec
[2016-11-05 16:38:14] numero : Rado: silver would be nice too
[2016-11-05 16:40:13] numero : I think of oil as the master currency, this industrial civilization of ours runs on energy
[2016-11-05 16:40:34] numero : I wonder what it means, that the oil price is deflating so?
[2016-11-05 16:41:15] zcasher7777 : oil can be a currency is price are unstable
[2016-11-05 16:41:21] zcasher7777 : cant be
[2016-11-05 16:41:51] zcasher7777 : the only thing that can be a currency is gold
[2016-11-05 16:42:20] zcasher7777 : gold value increasee rarely high with speculation it go high with the mining cost
[2016-11-05 16:42:43] zcasher7777 : and 100% gold based money will be the future
[2016-11-05 16:42:58] zcasher7777 : not our actual 10%based toitlet paper note
[2016-11-05 16:44:00] zcasher7777 : even a gold based crypto currency can be good but have to be based at 100% not 10%4
[2016-11-05 16:44:20] mjones : why can't we drag and drop the markets to reorder them the way we want it
[2016-11-05 16:44:25] numero : zcasher7777: is fiat even backed 10 % by gold though? I think it is backed by oil
[2016-11-05 16:45:05] zcasher7777 : numero: its backed by 10% gold mean that the other 90% paper value created is horse shit
[2016-11-05 16:45:47] mjmj83 : it's backed by an army
[2016-11-05 16:46:30] martinium : Rado: BTC MEWN or more down in your opinion
[2016-11-05 16:47:02] numero : mjmj83: I think that army runs on oil too
[2016-11-05 16:47:03] Rado : as I said yesterday a few days of consolidation
[2016-11-05 16:47:15] Rado : then we should resume the uptrend
[2016-11-05 16:47:27] martinium : Rado: are you on twitter or Tradingview?
[2016-11-05 16:47:33] Rado : yes
[2016-11-05 16:47:44] Rado : both
[2016-11-05 16:48:02] Rado : https://twitter.com/GlobalLife365
[2016-11-05 16:48:23] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/u/hubavka/
[2016-11-05 16:48:32] martinium : just followed on twitter
[2016-11-05 16:48:49] martinium : same on TV
[2016-11-05 16:49:07] Rado : ;-)
[2016-11-05 16:50:48] martinium : we have a similar trading style
[2016-11-05 16:51:31] Rado : you mean making money
[2016-11-05 16:51:31] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-05 16:52:03] Rado : it took me a few years (15) to start trading properly
[2016-11-05 16:52:38] Rado : made a lot of false start in the stock market and with options
[2016-11-05 16:52:58] Rado : but applied all the experience to crypto
[2016-11-05 16:54:31] y1uy : I want more cheap BTC ;(
[2016-11-05 16:54:32] y1uy : pa
[2016-11-05 16:54:36] martinium : Rado: I started trading at 19
[2016-11-05 16:54:42] martinium : Rado: I'm 30 now
[2016-11-05 16:54:44] Rado : nice
[2016-11-05 16:54:51] Rado : <--- old
[2016-11-05 16:54:51] martinium : was a long journey
[2016-11-05 16:54:56] Rado : started in 1997
[2016-11-05 16:55:06] martinium : during dotcom boom
[2016-11-05 16:55:12] Rado : yep
[2016-11-05 16:55:12] martinium : did you take a hit?
[2016-11-05 16:55:16] Rado : no
[2016-11-05 16:55:21] martinium : so many people got so rekt
[2016-11-05 16:55:22] Rado : that time I made money
[2016-11-05 16:55:31] Rado : then I thought it's easy
[2016-11-05 16:55:43] martinium : once ego gets involved = rekt
[2016-11-05 16:55:57] martinium : usualy leads to overrisking aka too large position sizing
[2016-11-05 16:56:04] Rado : yep
[2016-11-05 16:56:10] martinium : usually*
[2016-11-05 16:56:19] martinium : but I have paid my fair share of "tuition"
[2016-11-05 16:56:24] Rado : position size, stops, picking the right trades
[2016-11-05 16:56:35] Rado : all kind of things involved with trading
[2016-11-05 16:56:39] Rado : emotions etc
[2016-11-05 16:56:39] martinium : yep
[2016-11-05 16:56:43] martinium : patience is a key element
[2016-11-05 16:56:50] martinium : waiting for your entry
[2016-11-05 16:57:00] martinium : fomo is a big psychological factor
[2016-11-05 16:57:01] Rado : patience as well as knowing when to cut your loses and try again
[2016-11-05 16:57:22] martinium : most people don't know when to cut losses quickly
[2016-11-05 16:57:30] Rado : yesterday before the dump as was telling people here to get out
[2016-11-05 16:57:33] martinium : I myself still make errors from time to time
[2016-11-05 16:57:39] Rado : they thought it's just a small correction
[2016-11-05 16:57:46] martinium : I was thinking that and got rekt
[2016-11-05 16:57:47] Rado : everyone makes errors
[2016-11-05 16:57:56] martinium : i ignored my ta
[2016-11-05 16:57:57] Rado : even the great sleger
[2016-11-05 16:58:06] martinium : which told me to get out at 753 resistance
[2016-11-05 16:58:12] martinium : yet I relonged
[2016-11-05 16:58:15] martinium : at 727
[2016-11-05 16:58:24] martinium : lost 12.6 btc on liquidation
[2016-11-05 16:58:45] Rado : ouch
[2016-11-05 16:58:52] Rado : that hurts
[2016-11-05 16:58:55] martinium : but I'm already making it back bit by bit
[2016-11-05 16:58:57] martinium : yep
[2016-11-05 16:59:03] Rado : I have stops on all my trades
[2016-11-05 16:59:10] Rado : as soon as I enter a position
[2016-11-05 16:59:18] Rado : learned this when trading options
[2016-11-05 16:59:19] martinium : I trade oil futures and always set stops
[2016-11-05 16:59:25] martinium : but here in crypto havent used stops
[2016-11-05 16:59:30] Rado : with futures and options you can't afford to see what will happen
[2016-11-05 16:59:35] Rado : not like stocks or etfs
[2016-11-05 16:59:40] martinium : the leverage
[2016-11-05 16:59:49] martinium : same with this as well
[2016-11-05 16:59:55] martinium : but it behaves more like a levered stock
[2016-11-05 17:00:06] martinium : crypto is great for making gains
[2016-11-05 17:00:11] martinium : with proper entries
[2016-11-05 17:00:22] martinium : just can't get too greedy
[2016-11-05 17:00:29] martinium : greed cost me
[2016-11-05 17:00:49] martinium : lesson learned
[2016-11-05 17:01:16] Rado : martinium: just don't make it again
[2016-11-05 17:01:28] Rado : put a sticky on your PC with -12 BTC
[2016-11-05 17:01:52] martinium : I had a chance to market sell and I held off
[2016-11-05 17:01:55] martinium : then the dump
[2016-11-05 17:01:56] martinium : boom
[2016-11-05 17:02:02] Rado : it's fast
[2016-11-05 17:02:06] martinium : yup
[2016-11-05 17:02:23] Rado : I selling some right now
[2016-11-05 17:02:27] martinium : precision is key in trading
[2016-11-05 17:02:31] Rado : that I bought near teh bottom
[2016-11-05 17:02:38] Rado : just XBTUSD
[2016-11-05 17:02:55] Rado : holding my XBTZ16
[2016-11-05 17:02:58] martinium : big ass doji on weekly chart for the swap
[2016-11-05 17:03:34] Rado : martinium: talk to you later
[2016-11-05 17:03:40] martinium : cya
[2016-11-05 17:03:47] numero : do you guys use Ichimoku for ta?
[2016-11-05 17:03:49] Rado : going to run some errands and Lunch
[2016-11-05 17:03:56] Rado : numero: I don't
[2016-11-05 17:04:04] martinium : numero: I don't
[2016-11-05 17:04:15] martinium : numero: I use 0 indicators
[2016-11-05 17:04:19] numero : martinium: you have something better?
[2016-11-05 17:04:27] numero : animal spirits?
[2016-11-05 17:04:31] martinium : numero: I look at price and structure
[2016-11-05 17:04:37] martinium : and my crystal ball
[2016-11-05 17:04:41] sleger : apparently he doesnt have anything better
[2016-11-05 17:04:44] sleger : -12btc
[2016-11-05 17:05:03] numero : I would be REKT :o
[2016-11-05 17:05:16] martinium : its a lesson learned
[2016-11-05 17:05:21] sleger : he will be soon too
[2016-11-05 17:05:22] martinium : hard one but it is what it is
[2016-11-05 17:05:29] numero : I would be RUPT
[2016-11-05 17:05:38] martinium : sleger: your crystal ball tell you that? lol
[2016-11-05 17:05:52] sleger : guys like you come and go pretty fast around here
[2016-11-05 17:06:01] martinium : wrong about that
[2016-11-05 17:06:06] martinium : guys like me
[2016-11-05 17:06:13] martinium : you have no idea how or who I am
[2016-11-05 17:06:23] martinium : I've been trading a long time
[2016-11-05 17:06:29] martinium : but we all make mistakes
[2016-11-05 17:06:34] martinium : simple as that
[2016-11-05 17:07:00] numero : sleger: yeah, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop
[2016-11-05 17:07:08] sleger : i dont know who you are and i couldnt care less. However what i know is that you said some seriously dumb stuff the last weeks
[2016-11-05 17:08:55] martinium : sleger: I admit I did especially my first days in here
[2016-11-05 17:09:06] martinium : in the trollbox that is
[2016-11-05 17:09:15] martinium : never really used or cared to use one
[2016-11-05 17:09:47] sleger : thumb up for admitting it
[2016-11-05 17:10:51] martinium : sleger: it's all good man
[2016-11-05 17:11:11] sleger : tempted to buy some zcash
[2016-11-05 17:11:52] martinium : sleger: it's nice and sideways
[2016-11-05 17:12:18] sleger : just to dump it in the next pump
[2016-11-05 17:16:49] sleger : zcash is dead : Zclassic is a Zcash Fork with No 20% Founders Tax
[2016-11-05 17:17:10] martinium : was just reading about that
[2016-11-05 17:17:22] martinium : 20% founders mining reward is complete horseshit
[2016-11-05 17:17:28] martinium : they should mine themselves
[2016-11-05 17:17:35] messiaen8844 : fork zcash
[2016-11-05 17:17:35] martinium : miners don't owe them anything
[2016-11-05 17:17:59] sleger : messiaen8844: thats what zclassic is
[2016-11-05 17:18:13] messiaen8844 : is it already running?
[2016-11-05 17:18:21] messiaen8844 : i saw the fork on github, didn't know it was on already
[2016-11-05 17:18:54] martinium : yeah has no traction yet
[2016-11-05 17:19:00] messiaen8844 : that will be cool
[2016-11-05 17:21:25] sleger : messiaen8844: testnet
[2016-11-05 17:21:56] RoftheN : Well I will be interested in that one
[2016-11-05 17:21:58] RoftheN : But
[2016-11-05 17:22:04] RoftheN : It's still not organized well
[2016-11-05 17:22:11] RoftheN : There needs to be some outrage for Zcash first
[2016-11-05 17:22:15] RoftheN : Then it will follow
[2016-11-05 17:25:10] martinium : zcash is all hype
[2016-11-05 17:25:37] martinium : think I was hearing of people integrating its privacy functionality into bitcoin itself
[2016-11-05 17:25:42] martinium : that was the original idea
[2016-11-05 17:25:53] martinium : but they got greedy and thought altcoin
[2016-11-05 17:54:24] rapidtrades : Thanks 'I lost 12 BTC' guy
[2016-11-05 17:54:49] rapidtrades : i'll file ur opinion under 'DO NOT consider'
[2016-11-05 17:56:26] NL007 : zec hashrate dropping
[2016-11-05 17:56:56] martinium : rapidtrades: cool
[2016-11-05 17:57:11] martinium : only that big due to liquidations on here
[2016-11-05 17:57:27] NL007 : difficulty dropping also
[2016-11-05 17:57:27] rapidtrades : not rly, no
[2016-11-05 17:57:38] rapidtrades : afaik liqs on swap take 0.75%?
[2016-11-05 17:57:41] rapidtrades : extra
[2016-11-05 17:57:50] martinium : it sold way below the last quoted price
[2016-11-05 17:58:00] rapidtrades : like how much below
[2016-11-05 17:58:06] martinium : sold at the lows when price was 714 it liquidated to like 705
[2016-11-05 17:58:17] martinium : way below
[2016-11-05 17:58:22] rapidtrades : yeah that's a bit high
[2016-11-05 17:58:26] martinium : I was surprised it did that much
[2016-11-05 17:58:43] rapidtrades : i think they liq-ed u at mark price while here we were at premium?
[2016-11-05 17:59:30] martinium : market price was 714
[2016-11-05 17:59:42] martinium : it hit 717.49 just under my liquidation price
[2016-11-05 17:59:47] martinium : instantly vanished
[2016-11-05 17:59:49] habibi : martinium that liq was today?
[2016-11-05 17:59:55] martinium : account says sold at 705
[2016-11-05 18:00:15] martinium : habibi: no that was on like thursday
[2016-11-05 18:00:38] habibi : around 250-300k contracts?
[2016-11-05 18:01:09] martinium : 290k
[2016-11-05 18:01:30] martinium : I was in a meeting
[2016-11-05 18:01:36] martinium : couldn't get to terminal in time
[2016-11-05 18:01:38] martinium : was like fuck
[2016-11-05 18:01:50] martinium : missed chance to just market sell
[2016-11-05 18:02:11] habibi : martinium: i think i bought ur liq, thx for that http://prntscr.com/d3h75t
[2016-11-05 18:02:47] martinium : maybe
[2016-11-05 18:02:50] martinium : but no way to be sure
[2016-11-05 18:02:57] martinium : there was a sea of liq that day
[2016-11-05 18:03:20] martinium : wish you would have but they gave me a 705 price way below my liq price
[2016-11-05 18:04:34] martinium : 705.62 to be exact
[2016-11-05 18:05:17] martinium : 15:31 pm UTC time
[2016-11-05 18:05:40] habibi : martinium: yep, i bought it
[2016-11-05 18:05:59] martinium : maybe just a part
[2016-11-05 18:06:00] rapidtrades : lol brutal
[2016-11-05 18:06:07] martinium : cuz it says fill at 705.62
[2016-11-05 18:06:09] rapidtrades : meet ur executioner
[2016-11-05 18:06:14] martinium : your says 713
[2016-11-05 18:06:27] habibi : martinium: yep, my is right,
[2016-11-05 18:06:38] sleger : you gave your money to habibi, ouch cant get worse than that
[2016-11-05 18:06:48] martinium : lol
[2016-11-05 18:06:49] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-11-05 18:06:51] martinium : its whatever
[2016-11-05 18:07:21] martinium : always someone on other side of a persons trade
[2016-11-05 18:07:34] rapidtrades : don't liquidations take around 0.75% extra? he paid 1.2
[2016-11-05 18:07:46] habibi : but when its sleger, u can be sure money will be used to buy eth, in my case it will be used for some random things
[2016-11-05 18:07:50] rapidtrades : 0.5% plus funding
[2016-11-05 18:08:37] martinium : my liq price was 717.62
[2016-11-05 18:08:44] martinium : filled liq at 705.62
[2016-11-05 18:08:49] martinium : massive difference
[2016-11-05 18:09:06] martinium : market was in the $714 range at the time
[2016-11-05 18:09:37] rapidtrades : so how much of that 16 btc was lost due to the price gap
[2016-11-05 18:11:43] martinium : more than 4.31 btc
[2016-11-05 18:11:47] martinium : due to that price gap
[2016-11-05 18:12:25] rapidtrades : ok so 7.7 btc without the gap
[2016-11-05 18:12:38] numero : I learn a lot from you guys, I admire you all
[2016-11-05 18:13:16] habibi : numero: no problemos, u pay for that lessons while trading against us
[2016-11-05 18:13:16] rapidtrades : in order to justify that size u would need a 100k risk capital minimum...do u have that? @martinium
[2016-11-05 18:13:34] rapidtrades : that's if u risk 5% per trade, which is very aggressive
[2016-11-05 18:13:45] martinium : I was way overrisked
[2016-11-05 18:13:56] martinium : I made a mistake hadn't made for years
[2016-11-05 18:14:06] martinium : expecting drop to stop at 680 and be dond
[2016-11-05 18:14:10] martinium : done*
[2016-11-05 18:14:13] martinium : wasnt the case
[2016-11-05 18:14:24] martinium : bought back on rise to 727 before mega dump
[2016-11-05 18:14:34] martinium : held too long when all signs said to sell
[2016-11-05 18:14:34] rapidtrades : right so size was the problem not the liquidation
[2016-11-05 18:14:47] rapidtrades : cos u still would've lost over 5k
[2016-11-05 18:14:49] martinium : yeah also liquidation price
[2016-11-05 18:15:01] martinium : yea was still going to be a big loss regardless
[2016-11-05 18:19:25] BitMEX_Wally : extrabit: execInst is case sensitive
[2016-11-05 19:22:11] RoftheN : So ehh question, why, now that ZEC isn't really futures anymore (is it?) is the price so much lower than on Polo
[2016-11-05 19:25:26] BitMEX_Wally : ZECZ16 will settle on the future price of ZEC on 30 December 2016. It's a futures contract
[2016-11-05 19:26:34] rapidtrades : RoftheN: if u ask me, the cap and the mark to last helped shorts here
[2016-11-05 19:26:50] rapidtrades : it gave them a limited risk during a very volatile time for ZEC
[2016-11-05 19:27:25] rapidtrades : so the market is a bit slated now by shorts who made a lot of money during that period and they're keeping pressure on price
[2016-11-05 19:28:42] RoftheN : Okay but then what did the change change?
[2016-11-05 19:29:22] BitMEX_Greg : RoftheN: what change are you referring to?
[2016-11-05 19:29:43] rapidtrades : cap is removed and it's now slightly harder for shorts to push down price cos margin isn't marked to last @RoftheN
[2016-11-05 19:29:45] RoftheN : "Important Changes to Zcash Futures Fair Price Marking"
[2016-11-05 19:30:04] RoftheN : So what's meant with ''market to last''
[2016-11-05 19:30:13] RoftheN : marked
[2016-11-05 19:31:23] RoftheN : Nvm I foujnd the page that explains it
[2016-11-05 19:32:30] BitMEX_Greg : np
[2016-11-05 20:20:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 702.03
[2016-11-05 20:23:50] javierstone : i smell some liquidations coming
[2016-11-05 21:23:06] mjones : orly
[2016-11-05 21:23:29] mjones : i'm ready to fomo that direction
[2016-11-05 21:28:10] asdfman : 100x long with 0.25
[2016-11-05 21:28:14] asdfman : I'm ready
[2016-11-05 21:53:56] QuantFocus : asdfman: gonna get rekt
[2016-11-05 21:54:31] QuantFocus : i think best case is a quick pump to 720 before we dump
[2016-11-05 22:04:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 420 @ 702.62
[2016-11-05 22:07:52] mjones : btc tried pumping. not time yet
[2016-11-05 22:08:17] mjones : sometime in the next 12 hours most likely
[2016-11-06 00:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 13 @ 0.007308
[2016-11-06 00:49:13] AudibleScience : are you here Sam?
[2016-11-06 00:59:36] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: can you let Sam know there is a weird ~5 pixel difference when hovering over " overflown overflown-left nav nav-tabs" when the browser is set to 75% zoom. It's no big deal at all and he probably already knows about it.
[2016-11-06 01:00:28] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: I'll take a look, thanks
[2016-11-06 01:01:23] AudibleScience : cool
[2016-11-06 01:38:37] wurstgelee : i disagree
[2016-11-06 01:38:46] wurstgelee : with everything
[2016-11-06 01:42:02] AudibleScience : wurstgelee: with everything, really? must be hard! lol
[2016-11-06 01:46:53] rapidtrades : so when laptops state X hrs in specs....is that idle time?
[2016-11-06 01:49:19] rapidtrades : there's def some creative marketing in this area
[2016-11-06 01:56:57] wurstgelee : AudibleScience: its easy tbh
[2016-11-06 01:57:38] wurstgelee : hm.
[2016-11-06 01:57:45] wurstgelee : seems like i longed
[2016-11-06 01:57:50] wurstgelee : wtf
[2016-11-06 02:01:42] wurstgelee : quiet evening obviouslx, can still read msgs from 8 hours earlier
[2016-11-06 02:01:44] wurstgelee : *y
[2016-11-06 02:20:29] drag : zec buy now
[2016-11-06 02:31:14] Formiga : Can I set alarms on here for price?
[2016-11-06 02:31:34] Squall : Can anyone answer me a question?
[2016-11-06 02:32:20] Squall : about the cross margin
[2016-11-06 02:33:27] squall_ : HI all
[2016-11-06 02:33:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 703.44 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-06 02:35:26] QuantFocus : Squall: it uses all available funds
[2016-11-06 02:37:50] Squall : Okay, so how do you close?
[2016-11-06 02:38:07] QuantFocus : Squall: close a position?
[2016-11-06 02:38:20] Squall : Yes, the margin uses all the funds that you've purchased?
[2016-11-06 02:38:25] QuantFocus : buy/sell the opposite of what you currently have open
[2016-11-06 02:38:30] Squall : it doesn't look like it reflects that in the P/l
[2016-11-06 02:38:53] QuantFocus : Squall: the margin uses all funds available in your wallet if you use cross. alternatively you can set a leverage amount with the slider
[2016-11-06 02:39:18] QuantFocus : leverage limits will potentially reduce the amount of funds at risk, assuming you have greater balance than your leverage utilization
[2016-11-06 02:39:44] QuantFocus : but will also increase/decrease your liquidation price - depending on long/short
[2016-11-06 02:39:57] Squall : sure. i understand that.
[2016-11-06 02:40:07] QuantFocus : Squall: unrealized pnl is based on mark price, not market
[2016-11-06 02:40:16] Squall : do you need a higher balance to open a higher cross margin position?
[2016-11-06 02:40:27] QuantFocus : no
[2016-11-06 02:40:37] QuantFocus : just think of that slider as a multiplier
[2016-11-06 02:40:39] Squall : in other words say i buy 1000 contract, do i need 2000 to open a 50x margin?
[2016-11-06 02:40:50] QuantFocus : you can either use all funds in your wallet, or you can use 5x/10x/20x etc
[2016-11-06 02:40:54] QuantFocus : based on position size
[2016-11-06 02:41:15] QuantFocus : 50x in most cases requires 2% of notional
[2016-11-06 02:41:34] QuantFocus : so you would need 20(xxx)
[2016-11-06 02:42:40] QuantFocus : that slider is how much of your capital you want to pledge for collateral
[2016-11-06 02:43:23] Squall : It doesn't work the same way that a margin position on poloniex works then?
[2016-11-06 02:43:33] Squall : I'm sorry i'm not understanding yet, pretty green to this place.
[2016-11-06 02:44:07] rapidtrades : try it with 1 contract on swap to see how fast u get rekt
[2016-11-06 02:44:22] rapidtrades : or for free on the testnet
[2016-11-06 02:44:59] Squall : so if i open 100 contracts on 50x i need 2 extra to open the position?
[2016-11-06 02:45:10] QuantFocus : Squall: same concept, but on polo you transfer funds to your margin wallet and it assumes you pledge the entire amount
[2016-11-06 02:47:07] QuantFocus : Squall: well, no
[2016-11-06 02:47:22] QuantFocus : you just need 2% of the notional amount
[2016-11-06 02:47:48] QuantFocus : but like @rapidtrades said, if you use max leverage like that you're probably gonna have a bad time
[2016-11-06 02:47:55] Squall : sure.
[2016-11-06 02:48:10] Squall : you can change the cross at any time though?
[2016-11-06 02:48:20] CrazyEarner : having problms depositing when trying t odeposit says inviled BTC address sending to any idea why when its right one
[2016-11-06 02:48:27] wurstgelee : QuantFocus: the vallley and bump assumption was pretty accurate.
[2016-11-06 02:48:35] wurstgelee : we're back on slope tho ;)
[2016-11-06 02:48:43] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: i still think it's down
[2016-11-06 02:48:52] QuantFocus : i'm really surprised we're at 2 days now of relatively stable
[2016-11-06 02:49:24] wurstgelee : i dumped below .7 now tho
[2016-11-06 02:49:27] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-06 02:49:28] wurstgelee : *it
[2016-11-06 02:49:31] wurstgelee : not me
[2016-11-06 02:49:43] QuantFocus : oh, on zec?
[2016-11-06 02:49:46] QuantFocus : i thought we were talking xbt
[2016-11-06 02:49:53] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-06 02:50:07] wurstgelee : i obviously longed btc
[2016-11-06 02:50:13] wurstgelee : for some reason i cant recall
[2016-11-06 02:50:21] wurstgelee : kinda surprised when i reutrned home
[2016-11-06 02:50:22] QuantFocus : seems to me most action on btc is right at the UTC midnight chart change
[2016-11-06 02:50:51] QuantFocus : but both days now it's just hovering
[2016-11-06 02:50:57] wurstgelee : i had some brain-resetting drinks tho
[2016-11-06 02:51:16] QuantFocus : haha, nice
[2016-11-06 02:51:42] QuantFocus : technicals look bad to me.
[2016-11-06 02:51:48] wurstgelee : was fun but already in recovery mode
[2016-11-06 02:51:50] QuantFocus : at least on the daily
[2016-11-06 02:52:11] wurstgelee : that transaltes to stay the fuck awakre for another hour so hangover wont be that bad
[2016-11-06 02:52:20] wurstgelee : *translates also
[2016-11-06 02:52:24] QuantFocus : or have another
[2016-11-06 02:52:30] QuantFocus : bloody mary....mmmm
[2016-11-06 02:52:36] wurstgelee : i am resorting to both tbh
[2016-11-06 02:52:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 02:54:06] QuantFocus : :thumbsup:
[2016-11-06 02:55:06] IamLegend : Hi am new
[2016-11-06 02:55:42] wurstgelee : i am old
[2016-11-06 02:56:02] QuantFocus : i'm in the middle
[2016-11-06 02:56:05] IamLegend : lol
[2016-11-06 02:56:12] wurstgelee : i dont like sandwiches
[2016-11-06 03:02:13] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: no need to discriminate
[2016-11-06 03:02:45] wurstgelee : discrimate? sandwiches?
[2016-11-06 03:03:03] Squall : QuantFocus: thank you for your explanations, so just one more question, to close an open long you sell your contract on the place order? that wont initiate short?
[2016-11-06 03:03:08] CrazyEarner : yeah its sandwich discrimination lmfao
[2016-11-06 03:03:18] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-06 03:03:26] CrazyEarner : what the sandwiches ever do to you :P
[2016-11-06 03:03:32] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: :smile:
[2016-11-06 03:03:45] QuantFocus : Squall: correct
[2016-11-06 03:03:57] Squall : Okay great.
[2016-11-06 03:04:04] CrazyEarner : I bet he made a sandwich and one the pices of butter bred dropped and landed butter side down lmfao
[2016-11-06 03:04:17] QuantFocus : Squall: if you have a limit price you want to use. alternatively you can use the "close position" section under your open positions
[2016-11-06 03:04:20] wurstgelee : Squall: Just buy a sandwich. All turns out great then.
[2016-11-06 03:04:27] wurstgelee : Apparently sandwich is the new savior
[2016-11-06 03:04:35] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 03:04:52] wurstgelee : US should elect a sandwich
[2016-11-06 03:05:25] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: it'd be better than the other two options
[2016-11-06 03:05:37] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-06 03:05:41] Squall : i say skeletor
[2016-11-06 03:06:09] wurstgelee : where's greyskull then?
[2016-11-06 03:06:32] wurstgelee : and doe that make putin he-man?
[2016-11-06 03:06:35] wurstgelee : *s
[2016-11-06 03:07:03] laisee : elect Putin, he'd do the job ok
[2016-11-06 03:08:18] wurstgelee : same as a sandwich
[2016-11-06 03:09:19] QuantFocus : great, now i'm hungry
[2016-11-06 03:09:26] Squall : QuantFocus: the reason I had so many questions is that my open position unrealized profit doesn't have anything listed, is this because it's separate from the cross margin?
[2016-11-06 03:09:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30 @ 704.03
[2016-11-06 03:09:52] QuantFocus : Squall: cross margin/margin has nothing to do with your pnl
[2016-11-06 03:10:25] QuantFocus : that would be displayed in your ROE, which still really has nothing to do with pnl
[2016-11-06 03:10:34] QuantFocus : look at your entry price vs. mark price
[2016-11-06 03:10:46] QuantFocus : both are listed on your open positions tab
[2016-11-06 03:11:25] Squall : Okay, why is mark price lower than current market sell price?
[2016-11-06 03:11:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2600 @ 704.40
[2016-11-06 03:11:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 25 @ 735.53
[2016-11-06 03:13:48] Squall : PNL is different than your actual earnings if you sell at a cross margin correct? I feel like such a nub still lol. :(
[2016-11-06 03:14:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 19044 @ 0.001451
[2016-11-06 03:16:18] Squall : ill be on testnet lol
[2016-11-06 03:16:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.001442
[2016-11-06 03:18:06] wurstgelee : wb btc
[2016-11-06 03:18:07] QuantFocus : Squall: mark is based on indexes other than bitmex
[2016-11-06 03:18:21] QuantFocus : you can read about the contract details in the references/contracts section
[2016-11-06 03:18:27] QuantFocus : little rally
[2016-11-06 03:20:13] Squall : thx for all the help :)
[2016-11-06 03:20:26] rapidtrades : what's with the 4am rallies
[2016-11-06 03:20:36] rapidtrades : gayass coin
[2016-11-06 03:20:37] Squall : china
[2016-11-06 03:20:58] rapidtrades : its a Sunday china, take a break
[2016-11-06 03:24:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 45 @ 0.015500
[2016-11-06 03:26:28] rapidtrades : 66 cents for the One True Coin
[2016-11-06 03:26:36] rapidtrades : what a travesty
[2016-11-06 03:26:58] bernx : dat fomo
[2016-11-06 03:27:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1627 @ 708.87
[2016-11-06 03:29:39] rapidtrades : what's the logic behind buying 14995 and not 15000
[2016-11-06 03:29:55] rapidtrades : he did that 3 times in past 5 mins
[2016-11-06 03:30:08] rapidtrades : keeps leaving 5 on
[2016-11-06 03:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100995 @ 710.13 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-06 03:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 140000 @ 709.74 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-06 03:31:47] chromaticcr1 : oh my!
[2016-11-06 03:31:53] wurstgelee : btc seems serious
[2016-11-06 03:32:10] rapidtrades : just a 200k liq
[2016-11-06 03:32:22] wurstgelee : fck liquidations
[2016-11-06 03:32:28] wurstgelee : gimme adl
[2016-11-06 03:32:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 03:33:03] chromaticcr1 : 719
[2016-11-06 03:33:07] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-06 03:33:12] chromaticcr1 : thanks adl fund
[2016-11-06 03:33:25] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-06 03:33:29] rapidtrades : was that adl?
[2016-11-06 03:33:40] wurstgelee : dunno
[2016-11-06 03:33:41] hhhhh : buying that ferrari tomorrow
[2016-11-06 03:33:46] chromaticcr1 : yes, the liq order is gone now
[2016-11-06 03:33:55] wurstgelee : hhhhh: i already bought order all, none left
[2016-11-06 03:34:01] wurstgelee : *.bought
[2016-11-06 03:35:50] rapidtrades : this fomo should make for a nice funding payment in 16 hrs
[2016-11-06 03:36:20] rapidtrades : last few days have been stingy
[2016-11-06 03:37:08] wurstgelee : idc tho, closed my long @ 715
[2016-11-06 03:37:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-06 03:43:49] Formiga : Any how I can set price alarms here?
[2016-11-06 03:49:39] wurstgelee : alarms?
[2016-11-06 03:50:09] wurstgelee : thats not possible unless i missed something crucial for months
[2016-11-06 03:50:44] wurstgelee : use bitcoinchecker ;)
[2016-11-06 04:07:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4600 @ 711.45
[2016-11-06 04:10:28] y1uy : Nice breakout on btc
[2016-11-06 04:10:38] y1uy : i wouldn't sell now tbh
[2016-11-06 04:14:18] shiroe : go pacquiao!
[2016-11-06 04:18:59] martinium : the hell btc breakout like boom
[2016-11-06 04:28:19] miramm1115 : predicted funding 0.375%, we are back to the pump :-)
[2016-11-06 04:37:47] martinium : continuation
[2016-11-06 04:37:53] martinium : btc defended 685 level twice
[2016-11-06 04:56:17] martinium : crazy how quickly the funding rate changes
[2016-11-06 05:12:36] martinium : this low volume push is suspect though
[2016-11-06 07:31:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2 @ 735.40 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-06 07:39:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: Sell 6 @ 0.005470
[2016-11-06 08:26:36] TraderStefan : It's good to see so much trading on BitMEX these days
[2016-11-06 08:29:07] TraderStefan : Even the alt contracts are getting some decent volume in recent months
[2016-11-06 08:29:33] RoftheN : All because of volatility of Bitcoin
[2016-11-06 08:30:12] TraderStefan : yep, let's hope it continues
[2016-11-06 08:37:41] RoftheN : Woaw. ETH hashrate halved since Zcash, amazing, gonna short ETH some more
[2016-11-06 08:51:05] CapitalGains : RoftheN: Are you still long on ZEC? How confident are you? I'm not liking the order book.
[2016-11-06 08:51:53] RoftheN : I think that it will follow Poloniex, and I really think there will be a poloniex pump after it goes down some more
[2016-11-06 08:52:17] RoftheN : Some rich bagholders can't possibly be satisfied
[2016-11-06 09:28:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 826 @ 707.17
[2016-11-06 09:29:38] chromaticcr1 : come on stop spamming
[2016-11-06 09:30:17] chromaticcr1 : 1 contract xbtusd order...
[2016-11-06 09:35:50] hazir : My liquidation price for zcash changed from 1.3 btc to 0.28 for no apparent reason. Help?
[2016-11-06 09:36:13] hazir : Didnt change account balance ...
[2016-11-06 09:36:26] habibi : hazir: thank u for that info
[2016-11-06 09:36:29] habibi : lets try it out
[2016-11-06 09:36:38] chromaticcr1 : lol
[2016-11-06 09:36:59] hazir : I only have 1 contract habibi
[2016-11-06 09:37:04] chromaticcr1 : did you placed some orders or have other position?
[2016-11-06 09:37:07] habibi : hazir: just kidding, too much risk to go there thru asks
[2016-11-06 09:37:33] chromaticcr1 : habibi: yeah hidden ask everywhere
[2016-11-06 09:38:23] chromaticcr1 : or mistakenly press the leverage sidebar, and moved yourself out of "Cross" leveraged position?
[2016-11-06 09:38:33] hazir : Nope chromaticc1. Nothin'. Maybe its the market. Toneshort's probably. ..
[2016-11-06 09:38:44] hazir : Hu thankx checking
[2016-11-06 09:40:13] hazir : Yes. Thank you. Im retarded. This
[2016-11-06 09:40:40] hazir : chat is a log to my idioticy
[2016-11-06 09:40:51] hazir : <3
[2016-11-06 09:42:15] hazir : I butt leveraged.
[2016-11-06 09:47:42] micmix : yes, you have to be in cross to lose all your wallet balance at once. if you're on fixed margin you will lose bit by bit, it takes too long
[2016-11-06 09:55:07] chromaticcr1 : put urself on cross like jesus ;)
[2016-11-06 10:08:25] raver36 : hey guys
[2016-11-06 10:08:29] chromaticcr1 : yo
[2016-11-06 10:08:38] raver36 : I'm seeking for get rich quick scheme
[2016-11-06 10:08:43] raver36 : ideas?
[2016-11-06 10:09:08] CapitalGains : 100x leverage position with your entire portfolio
[2016-11-06 10:09:16] CapitalGains : Just get it right
[2016-11-06 10:09:43] CapitalGains : Otherwise it's a get broke quick scheme
[2016-11-06 10:10:31] chromaticcr1 : going long on ZEC
[2016-11-06 10:10:51] chromaticcr1 : so far low from market price!!! :shipit:
[2016-11-06 10:11:38] raver36 : chromaticcr1: I'm willing to go short
[2016-11-06 10:18:25] anonymous789 : is there a higher fee for higher leverage?
[2016-11-06 10:19:02] chromaticcr1 : no
[2016-11-06 10:19:11] anonymous789 : okay thanks
[2016-11-06 10:19:40] micmix : no, fee is based on trade size, leverage doesn't matter
[2016-11-06 10:19:52] anonymous789 : aah cool thanks
[2016-11-06 10:30:37] raver36 : what does cross mean in the leverage tab?
[2016-11-06 10:31:05] raver36 : and how is it different from '1x'?
[2016-11-06 10:36:58] habibi : raver36: u think it would be the same if Jesus would die on 1x instead cross?
[2016-11-06 10:37:23] raver36 : I'm just asking, what 'cross' means
[2016-11-06 10:37:35] raver36 : It's obvious that it is the 100x leverage
[2016-11-06 10:38:13] raver36 : And, also, why it is the default option
[2016-11-06 10:39:19] l3f : raver36: cross means "just fuck my shit up if I get liquidated"