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[2016-11-05 10:27:20] arbitrage001 : sell order?
[2016-11-05 10:27:25] wurstgelee : no sells
[2016-11-05 10:27:26] wurstgelee : set
[2016-11-05 10:27:30] arbitrage001 : or more buy order?
[2016-11-05 10:27:39] wurstgelee : only buys adm
[2016-11-05 10:27:46] wurstgelee : target is ADL right now ;)
[2016-11-05 10:27:50] wurstgelee : *atm
[2016-11-05 10:27:57] arbitrage001 : think only strong hand remains
[2016-11-05 10:27:57] wurstgelee : +1
[2016-11-05 10:27:58] wurstgelee : yay
[2016-11-05 10:28:12] arbitrage001 : large adl price has to be abouve 1btc
[2016-11-05 10:28:25] wurstgelee : for those shorting .22 right now?
[2016-11-05 10:28:30] wurstgelee : not so sure
[2016-11-05 10:28:52] arbitrage001 : yyou think new traders keep piling in to short?
[2016-11-05 10:29:11] wurstgelee : if they here it will go down it will die for hours in polo trollbox
[2016-11-05 10:29:15] wurstgelee : a good brainwashing
[2016-11-05 10:29:18] wurstgelee : maybe
[2016-11-05 10:29:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-05 10:29:23] wurstgelee : *hear
[2016-11-05 10:29:34] arbitrage001 : i am starting to think it may be true
[2016-11-05 10:29:44] wurstgelee : what exactly?
[2016-11-05 10:29:51] arbitrage001 : since exp traders dont trade like noob
[2016-11-05 10:29:59] arbitrage001 : filling price at 0.22
[2016-11-05 10:30:03] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-05 10:30:08] arbitrage001 : when market price is .74
[2016-11-05 10:30:09] wurstgelee : thats just dumb imo
[2016-11-05 10:30:22] wurstgelee : shorting in current situation..here
[2016-11-05 10:30:24] wurstgelee : ..
[2016-11-05 10:30:40] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-05 10:30:53] wurstgelee : supply....300k@dec30...etc
[2016-11-05 10:31:29] wurstgelee : also a lot of new traders here got burned by zec iirc
[2016-11-05 10:31:44] arbitrage001 : and more keep piling in
[2016-11-05 10:31:46] wurstgelee : majority with shorts i assume
[2016-11-05 10:32:10] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: tbh, i have 47 hidden buys atm ;)
[2016-11-05 10:32:19] wurstgelee : mine dont even show...and prob not only mine
[2016-11-05 10:32:23] arbitrage001 : is it above .2?
[2016-11-05 10:32:34] wurstgelee : stacked in the book
[2016-11-05 10:32:38] wurstgelee : increasing size downwards
[2016-11-05 10:32:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-05 10:32:53] arbitrage001 : well, you are playing with profit you already made
[2016-11-05 10:32:58] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-05 10:32:59] arbitrage001 : i would too
[2016-11-05 10:33:16] wurstgelee : i thought i might gamble up to 20% on a second round of win ;)
[2016-11-05 10:33:35] lockhedge : wurstgelee: there are also 7 new traders with ROEs between 787% and 2594% on the leaderboard since ZEC launch.
[2016-11-05 10:33:45] wurstgelee : lockhedge: really.... ;)
[2016-11-05 10:33:58] wurstgelee : i am not on the roe board tho
[2016-11-05 10:34:12] wurstgelee : but zac made me be listed on the other one :)
[2016-11-05 10:34:17] wurstgelee : zec also
[2016-11-05 10:34:37] lockhedge : lost 7 places while being profitable ;)
[2016-11-05 10:34:46] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-05 10:34:50] wurstgelee : some made a shitload here
[2016-11-05 10:35:00] wurstgelee : in basically 2 hours
[2016-11-05 10:35:02] wurstgelee : if not less
[2016-11-05 10:35:17] wurstgelee : that move from 1.1 to adl @ 8.something was brutal
[2016-11-05 10:36:02] j8 : a few months ago there only were like 5 traders with notional profit over 100 XBT, now there's 11
[2016-11-05 10:37:00] wurstgelee : its a big advantage for "old guys" here that they know bitmex imo
[2016-11-05 10:37:11] wurstgelee : how everything behaves here
[2016-11-05 10:37:18] wurstgelee : new ones likely to get burned imo
[2016-11-05 10:37:25] wurstgelee : zec +1
[2016-11-05 10:37:31] wurstgelee : thank you anonymous seller :)
[2016-11-05 10:37:33] j8 : that's true, you also have to keep up because everything changes
[2016-11-05 10:37:38] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-05 10:37:43] CapitalGains : lockhedge: Where do you see the ROE leaderboard?
[2016-11-05 10:37:57] CapitalGains : I can only see profit, not ROE percentage
[2016-11-05 10:38:01] j8 : scroll down
[2016-11-05 10:38:11] wurstgelee : and, last but not least, if u have noe clue about futures, u shouldnt necessarily start here
[2016-11-05 10:38:16] wurstgelee : *-e
[2016-11-05 10:38:44] wurstgelee : or at least use testnet bitmx
[2016-11-05 10:38:46] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-05 10:38:58] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-05 10:40:14] zcashequalslambo : yo guys i want to short more zcash
[2016-11-05 10:40:20] wurstgelee : go on
[2016-11-05 10:40:23] zcashequalslambo : should i sell one shorted contract
[2016-11-05 10:40:26] zcashequalslambo : or wait
[2016-11-05 10:40:55] VitalikButerin : Time to short BTC.
[2016-11-05 10:41:17] wurstgelee : gl
[2016-11-05 10:41:21] chromaticcr1 : wurstgelee: there is a autosell feature in bittrex for all alts depositing in it
[2016-11-05 10:41:56] CapitalGains : zcashequalslambo: we're ready to buy your shorts
[2016-11-05 10:41:58] wurstgelee : i am not sure why you are telling me this
[2016-11-05 10:41:59] wurstgelee : tbh
[2016-11-05 10:42:00] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-05 10:42:52] CapitalGains : zcashequalslambo: but I can't advise anyone to short ZEC with a clear conscience
[2016-11-05 10:43:10] wurstgelee : thats why i didnt answer :p
[2016-11-05 10:43:12] zcashequalslambo : i closed one short
[2016-11-05 10:43:20] chromaticcr1 : point the nicehash mining wallet directly to bittrex and boom ;)
[2016-11-05 10:43:36] zcashequalslambo : i think it will go to 0.5 before going back
[2016-11-05 10:43:42] wurstgelee : chromaticcr1: ah ok :) i used suprnova pool tho
[2016-11-05 10:43:51] wurstgelee : zcashequalslambo: so u short .22 here?
[2016-11-05 10:44:11] wurstgelee : if u think it will "go back"?
[2016-11-05 10:44:19] zcashequalslambo : it can recover
[2016-11-05 10:44:22] zcashequalslambo : dont you think
[2016-11-05 10:44:29] zcashequalslambo : its 0.73 now
[2016-11-05 10:44:31] zcashequalslambo : on poloniex
[2016-11-05 10:44:47] CapitalGains : Why did you short then?
[2016-11-05 10:44:49] wurstgelee : oh wait, u closed ur short?
[2016-11-05 10:44:53] zcashequalslambo : yeah
[2016-11-05 10:45:00] wurstgelee : so u dont have it any more?
[2016-11-05 10:45:08] wurstgelee : to be clear
[2016-11-05 10:45:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-05 10:45:10] zcashequalslambo : no just recudec my exposure
[2016-11-05 10:45:15] wurstgelee : ok
[2016-11-05 10:45:16] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-05 10:45:21] wurstgelee : misuunderstanding then
[2016-11-05 10:45:24] wurstgelee : -u
[2016-11-05 10:45:25] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-05 10:46:31] wurstgelee : anyways, got some errands followed buy drinks followed by more drinks followed by even more drinks followed by my drunk return to this trollbox in ~15h to take care of
[2016-11-05 10:46:33] wurstgelee : bbl
[2016-11-05 10:46:51] arbitrage001 : have fun
[2016-11-05 10:47:05] wurstgelee : i will :D
[2016-11-05 10:49:05] zcashequalslambo : guys so initla levearge is 1.5x right
[2016-11-05 10:49:12] zcashequalslambo : so when i swipe to right
[2016-11-05 10:49:15] zcashequalslambo : there is 1x
[2016-11-05 10:49:18] zcashequalslambo : then 1.25x
[2016-11-05 10:49:22] zcashequalslambo : how does it change
[2016-11-05 10:52:03] Techemy : how does the price keep rising buy my long goes down in unreleased PNL %?
[2016-11-05 10:52:52] RoftheN : Because some of it was realised maybe?
[2016-11-05 10:55:54] RoftheN : When is the next litecoin halving and do people still expect a pump?
[2016-11-05 11:03:16] wurstgelee : 11:40 - VitalikButerin: Time to short BTC.
[2016-11-05 11:03:18] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-05 11:03:57] laisee : better stick to coding ETH
[2016-11-05 11:04:21] BitMEX_Wally : Techemy: Positions are marked to the fair price based on the .XBT index, which has not risen much
[2016-11-05 11:04:38] BitMEX_Wally : Mark price is 703.28
[2016-11-05 11:04:50] Techemy : right forgot the index relevance- thx
[2016-11-05 11:05:17] Techemy : too used to okc futs
[2016-11-05 11:06:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 703.99
[2016-11-05 11:06:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2580 @ 703.89
[2016-11-05 11:07:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5500 @ 704.56
[2016-11-05 11:13:33] NL007 : hi
[2016-11-05 11:15:00] NL007 : demand for zec dropping and supply growing fast not good
[2016-11-05 11:15:39] NL007 : last big buy support is around 0.6 zec
[2016-11-05 11:25:42] Techemy : RoftheN: next litecoin halving ETA date: 23 Aug 2019
[2016-11-05 11:26:14] Tetsuo : buy quick before the prepump starts
[2016-11-05 11:44:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19490 @ 699.70
[2016-11-05 11:45:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 60 @ 699.31
[2016-11-05 11:54:02] mjmj83 : I've made a small calculation about ZEC mining.. Can anyone confirm this is correct? ZEC's hashrate is around 8675232 Sol/s. A RX480 - 150watt videocard gets 40 Sol/s. Let's say 216.861 RX480's are currently mining. 216.861*0,15 (kilowatt)*24 hours = 780699 kilowatt per day. Around $0,15 per kilowatt costs makes $117.104 per day. Currently daily 1500 new ZEC supply for miners.That's 1500 * 0,75 btc * 700 = $756.000. Still extremely profitable, right?
[2016-11-05 11:54:52] hhhhh : mjmj83: dont do it. the coin will be trading for pennies in a couple of weeks
[2016-11-05 11:56:11] mjmj83 : No I don't want to mine.. I want to short it. lolz
[2016-11-05 11:56:33] mjmj83 : Keep my short
[2016-11-05 12:03:40] wurstgelee : mjmj83: it was less profitable vs etc and eth a few an hour ago, now izec ha s a small lead again
[2016-11-05 12:03:52] wurstgelee : *-a fe
[2016-11-05 12:03:54] wurstgelee : w
[2016-11-05 12:04:03] wurstgelee : mjmj83: http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency
[2016-11-05 12:04:32] wurstgelee : diff is still rising as u can also see there
[2016-11-05 12:04:36] wurstgelee : +12 % in the last 24h
[2016-11-05 12:04:53] wurstgelee : *hash not diff
[2016-11-05 12:05:20] mjmj83 : wurstgelee: Of course it's rising.. it's extremely profitable
[2016-11-05 12:05:32] wurstgelee : mjmj83: not much more than etc/eth
[2016-11-05 12:05:52] wurstgelee : was less profitable against those an hour ago
[2016-11-05 12:05:58] wurstgelee : and 3 days ago the lead was huge
[2016-11-05 12:06:07] wurstgelee : my point is, profits getting smaller
[2016-11-05 12:06:28] wurstgelee : even with rising rewards
[2016-11-05 12:07:13] mjmj83 : So my calculation is incorrect?
[2016-11-05 12:07:30] wurstgelee : dunno.
[2016-11-05 12:07:38] wurstgelee : probably ;)
[2016-11-05 12:07:41] wurstgelee : 700% is a lot
[2016-11-05 12:07:57] mjmj83 : Jep, 700% is crazy
[2016-11-05 12:08:02] wurstgelee : $.15 is really cheap
[2016-11-05 12:08:11] mjmj83 : per kilowatt?
[2016-11-05 12:08:17] wurstgelee : for example its more like 30 ct (EUR) in .de
[2016-11-05 12:08:34] wurstgelee : i dont know where average cost of all miners is tho
[2016-11-05 12:08:46] mjmj83 : i expect that the big miners don't pay more than 0,15$
[2016-11-05 12:09:00] mjmj83 : miners paying $0,30 can't compete
[2016-11-05 12:09:15] mjmj83 : but, right now they can, because the price is too high ;)
[2016-11-05 12:09:29] wurstgelee : no clue, i am no miner. alol i need to know ist not more profitable than eth and etc atm
[2016-11-05 12:09:30] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-05 12:09:39] wurstgelee : *typos
[2016-11-05 12:09:42] wurstgelee : anyways, gott go
[2016-11-05 12:09:43] wurstgelee : bbl
[2016-11-05 12:09:44] mjmj83 : How can you be so sure about that?
[2016-11-05 12:09:45] wurstgelee : *A
[2016-11-05 12:09:53] wurstgelee : mjmj83: that page?
[2016-11-05 12:09:53] mjmj83 : Allright, enjoy yer night out
[2016-11-05 12:09:56] wurstgelee : coinwarz?
[2016-11-05 12:09:57] mjmj83 : ?
[2016-11-05 12:10:10] wurstgelee : well known site, i trust their cals more than yours tbh
[2016-11-05 12:10:11] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-05 12:10:15] wurstgelee : *calcs
[2016-11-05 12:10:52] mjmj83 : but you didn't double check it? and you are betting your money on stats from a website
[2016-11-05 12:11:18] wurstgelee : not ar all
[2016-11-05 12:11:20] wurstgelee : at
[2016-11-05 12:11:38] wurstgelee : i am betting my money on .3 and below is a bad place to be short
[2016-11-05 12:11:43] wurstgelee : also a good place to be long
[2016-11-05 12:11:45] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-05 12:12:00] wurstgelee : so.
[2016-11-05 12:12:05] wurstgelee : cu
[2016-11-05 12:12:58] lilop : RX 480 Sach earns 3$/ day It is very much
[2016-11-05 12:13:05] lilop : an ZEC
[2016-11-05 12:19:01] mjmj83 : wurstgelee: cu
[2016-11-05 12:44:07] mjmj83 : wurstgelee: ZEC revenue is the same as ETH revenue currently. According to Coinwarz. Soon there will be 4x more ZEC's created.. so make your bet.
[2016-11-05 12:47:31] mjmj83 : So we need at least 4 times more mining power.
[2016-11-05 12:47:56] NL007 : you dont have to be Einsteind to know ZEC wont ever hold these levels
[2016-11-05 12:48:07] NL007 : Einstein
[2016-11-05 12:49:06] NL007 : In a couple weeks daily supply will tripple
[2016-11-05 12:49:27] mjmj83 : But if miners will tripple, what happens?
[2016-11-05 12:50:40] NL007 : more miners doesnt mean automaticly higher hashrate
[2016-11-05 12:51:10] NL007 : if hashrate rises difficulty rises
[2016-11-05 12:52:13] NL007 : growth of daily supply will continue untill day 35
[2016-11-05 12:52:39] NL007 : untill we reach block reward of 12.5 Zec
[2016-11-05 12:54:27] rapidtrades : lol 0.23
[2016-11-05 12:55:34] rapidtrades : good to see sausage is holding the line still
[2016-11-05 12:56:07] hhhhh : rapidtrades: what do you think is a reasonable price for this ZEC?
[2016-11-05 12:56:23] hhhhh : shouldnt be on par with monero
[2016-11-05 12:56:36] rapidtrades : ur right, should be 2x bigger
[2016-11-05 12:59:36] Tetsuo : Damn ETC, choo choo
[2016-11-05 13:00:41] NL007 : Tetsuo: Steem!
[2016-11-05 13:00:47] NL007 : 100% up
[2016-11-05 13:00:55] NL007 : o-0
[2016-11-05 13:01:09] rapidtrades : is it? time to dump then
[2016-11-05 13:02:10] NL007 : looks like zec btc flowing back into other alts
[2016-11-05 13:02:32] rapidtrades : loks like smone is blind
[2016-11-05 13:09:20] sleger : confirmed news: ETC7D will settle on ETH price
[2016-11-05 13:09:44] Tetsuo : i can confirm!
[2016-11-05 13:10:11] shiroe : etc confirmed breakout of bear? lol
[2016-11-05 13:13:34] shiroe : To buy a 1dollar etc, or 2 dollar factom? hmm..
[2016-11-05 13:21:25] wurstgelee : sleger, Tetsuo i ordered a lambo 10 mins ago
[2016-11-05 13:21:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3800 @ 698.97
[2016-11-05 13:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 150 @ 696.09
[2016-11-05 13:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 21995 @ 696.12 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-05 13:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 695.42 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-05 13:45:44] rapidtrades : does kraken have a referral program?
[2016-11-05 13:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 5000 @ 716.26
[2016-11-05 13:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 694.55
[2016-11-05 13:47:32] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-11-05 13:52:01] thomaskikansha : HODLER
[2016-11-05 13:55:43] Rizky : is your remove margin functionality...broken?
[2016-11-05 13:55:49] Rizky : first time using it but not acting right
[2016-11-05 14:04:01] Rado : why is STEEM up, anyone know?
[2016-11-05 14:06:30] habibi : Rado: if there is any price change just go to main steem page and check articles
[2016-11-05 14:06:40] habibi : i bet u will find answer there
[2016-11-05 14:06:46] Rado : he he
[2016-11-05 14:06:55] Rado : let me try
[2016-11-05 14:14:11] hhhhh : can someone explain to me why would anyone buy ZEC contracts at these inflated prices?
[2016-11-05 14:14:38] sleger : inflated ?
[2016-11-05 14:15:06] hhhhh : sleger: hyped/pumped whatever you wanna call it
[2016-11-05 14:15:24] sleger : isnt it cheap here compared to polo ?
[2016-11-05 14:16:12] hhhhh : you really think that in 2 months this shitcoin will be still worth 0.25BTC when an established coin with same features MOnero is worth a couple dollars??
[2016-11-05 14:17:24] sleger : people buying on polo certainly think so
[2016-11-05 14:17:26] RoftheN : People tend to value things that were overvalued before more valuable
[2016-11-05 14:17:54] RoftheN : but 0.25 is pretty high, I'm expecting 0.1 or slightly less
[2016-11-05 14:18:22] Rado : RoftheN: what about 0.01
[2016-11-05 14:18:23] RoftheN : And besides, Monero supply is faaaaar higher
[2016-11-05 14:18:32] RoftheN : 0.01 is too low, maybe 0.05
[2016-11-05 14:18:51] hhhhh : i think the only reason ZEC is trading at these prices is because every major news outlet like COindesk is invested in the coin so they are hyping the sh** out of it and then also the slowstart
[2016-11-05 14:18:52] Rado : well if it's worth shit why 0.05?
[2016-11-05 14:20:01] RoftheN : It's mostly the slowstart
[2016-11-05 14:20:07] RoftheN : but yeah the new outlets help too
[2016-11-05 14:20:32] sleger : zcash is almost as great as onecoin
[2016-11-05 14:20:54] RoftheN : Monero supply is so weird: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Monero_coin_supply_and_inflation_over_time.png
[2016-11-05 14:21:34] RoftheN : But Onecoin has some very professional tricksters and marketers. Zcash has to do it with cryptofan hype
[2016-11-05 14:23:56] NL007 : Zec hype lasted 2 days
[2016-11-05 14:42:41] rapidtrades : .....it's been 8 days
[2016-11-05 14:43:08] drag : may
[2016-11-05 14:43:32] sleger : november
[2016-11-05 14:43:46] rapidtrades : February
[2016-11-05 14:44:25] rapidtrades : i don't think we're going back abvoe the highs
[2016-11-05 14:44:44] rapidtrades : that was the perfect double top followed by news catalyst
[2016-11-05 14:45:52] rapidtrades : chinamen prolly got the news in advance so took out $$$ while they could
[2016-11-05 14:46:21] rapidtrades : that would also exlain the CNY-USD gap
[2016-11-05 14:46:33] rapidtrades : cos they would be buying btccny and selling btcusd
[2016-11-05 14:46:56] rapidtrades : to turn their CNY into USD
[2016-11-05 14:46:58] khessabi2 : why bitmex put out its lisk?!!!
[2016-11-05 14:48:12] rapidtrades : now post-news gap completely gone
[2016-11-05 14:50:40] numero : if the ability to exchange cryptocurrencies for fiat was removed . . . do you think cryptos still have intrinsic value as a medium of exchange?
[2016-11-05 14:51:16] numero : where I am there are about 2 sites that you can use to get fiat from a bank account, and then there are local traders
[2016-11-05 14:52:26] Rado : rapidtrades: we are going to go above the highs, the question is when
[2016-11-05 14:53:41] khessabi2 : plz add Lisk bitmex!!
[2016-11-05 14:54:16] sleger : they just removed it they wont add your shitcoin back
[2016-11-05 14:54:38] Rado : lol
[2016-11-05 14:54:47] Rado : khessabi2: did you trade Lisk here?
[2016-11-05 14:55:44] khessabi2 : Rado: some...but I want to trade it.....they drop it in the critical moment of lisk...I don know why they do this
[2016-11-05 14:56:02] Rado : two reasons
[2016-11-05 14:56:07] Rado : people don't trade it
[2016-11-05 14:56:25] Rado : and the funding rate is so high it becomes almost untradable
[2016-11-05 14:56:26] khessabi2 : Rado: they have to drop litecoin instead
[2016-11-05 14:56:39] Rado : khessabi2: sure LTC is also crap
[2016-11-05 14:56:41] khessabi2 : Rado: check lite!!
[2016-11-05 14:57:11] rapidtrades : litecoin is n3 they're not gonna drop it
[2016-11-05 14:57:21] rapidtrades : bitmex don't make the same mistake again
[2016-11-05 14:57:57] Rado : rapidtrades: n3?
[2016-11-05 14:58:35] rapidtrades : bitcoin, eth lteicoin
[2016-11-05 14:58:58] khessabi2 : buy support increasing fast on ETC #polo
[2016-11-05 14:59:35] rapidtrades : would be funny is BTCC came out and said 'we're not adding it soon'
[2016-11-05 15:05:27] small fich : hi all
[2016-11-05 15:05:41] small fich : what is the leverage of xbt ?
[2016-11-05 15:06:09] sleger : 5x
[2016-11-05 15:06:39] rapidtrades : 2.5/1
[2016-11-05 15:06:45] small fich : then why I　see 100X ?
[2016-11-05 15:07:15] rapidtrades : THEN WHY ARE U ASKING
[2016-11-05 15:07:27] shiroe : :troll:
[2016-11-05 15:07:51] small fich : I am new here , so I need to make a confirm it
[2016-11-05 15:08:12] sleger : small fich: your eyes are lying to you
[2016-11-05 15:11:15] small fich : what is the trading fee for xbt ?
[2016-11-05 15:12:07] rapidtrades : bitmex guys rly like to take it easy on the weekend
[2016-11-05 15:12:34] sleger : small fich: 1% for entry, 0 for exit
[2016-11-05 15:12:34] lockhedge : small fich: click on "References" and/or "Contracts" for answers to basic questions
[2016-11-05 15:15:00] small fich : hi guys, do you think bitmex is money safe ?
[2016-11-05 15:15:30] shiroe : nahaNo.
[2016-11-05 15:15:41] sleger : no we all put money here because we didnt know how else to get rid of it
[2016-11-05 15:16:06] numero : I'm investing my student loans :)
[2016-11-05 15:16:34] Bosails : sleger: lol
[2016-11-05 15:17:24] small fich : nahaNo? @ shiroe what you means ?
[2016-11-05 15:18:07] sleger : whis
[2016-11-05 15:19:07] public username 321 : test
[2016-11-05 15:20:23] mjones : perfect place to short
[2016-11-05 15:20:47] rapidtrades : yes but not on ZEC
[2016-11-05 15:20:54] rapidtrades : that coin will rip ur face off
[2016-11-05 15:21:16] rapidtrades : hey it's always back above 80 cents....
[2016-11-05 15:27:03] wurstgelee : hahahaha
[2016-11-05 15:27:18] wurstgelee : this is just a test ;)
[2016-11-05 15:27:41] Rado : Samson Mow ‏@Excellion It's not our responsibility to comment on ZeroHedge articles that are pretty obviously baseless
[2016-11-05 15:27:55] Rado : BTC back to $750
[2016-11-05 15:27:56] Rado : lol
[2016-11-05 15:28:29] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-05 15:28:31] NL007 : zerohedge uses a lot of rumours as facts
[2016-11-05 15:28:49] Rado : of course
[2016-11-05 15:28:55] Rado : that is the basis of his business
[2016-11-05 15:29:07] Rado : doom and gloom as people are drawn to that for some reason
[2016-11-05 15:29:18] NL007 : they are very anti-western and pro-russian
[2016-11-05 15:29:34] Rado : I don't think they are pro-russian
[2016-11-05 15:29:34] numero : it's gossip for angry rich white guys
[2016-11-05 15:29:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1005 @ 698.28
[2016-11-05 15:29:50] Rado : numero: yep
[2016-11-05 15:29:52] NL007 : Rado: they are
[2016-11-05 15:29:53] small fich : I think if Trump takes president , BTC should up to 1000 usd , just guess haha
[2016-11-05 15:30:23] Rado : rapidtrades: what's up with ZEC?
[2016-11-05 15:30:25] NL007 : small fich: maybe
[2016-11-05 15:30:30] Rado : starting a pump?
[2016-11-05 15:31:06] Rado : Bitfinex $7 over China
[2016-11-05 15:31:15] wurstgelee : whales splashing around probably
[2016-11-05 15:31:32] NL007 : zec going onwhere
[2016-11-05 15:31:49] rapidtrades : wooo 89 cents!
[2016-11-05 15:31:50] wurstgelee : we will see who laughs in the end
[2016-11-05 15:31:57] rapidtrades : get it while it's cheap ppl
[2016-11-05 15:32:02] wurstgelee : Sub .3 shorters or longers
[2016-11-05 15:32:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-05 15:32:37] Rado : here is pretty safe to buy
[2016-11-05 15:32:45] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-05 15:32:46] Rado : you can only lose 0.28
[2016-11-05 15:32:54] wurstgelee : and fckn dangerous to short
[2016-11-05 15:33:06] wurstgelee : even with deep pockets
[2016-11-05 15:33:07] small fich : keep you mind , control the leverage :) @ rado
[2016-11-05 15:33:16] wurstgelee : 1x
[2016-11-05 15:33:19] wurstgelee : Long
[2016-11-05 15:33:20] wurstgelee : Safe
[2016-11-05 15:33:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-05 15:34:07] small fich : do you trade on btc-e ?
[2016-11-05 15:34:27] NL007 : lisk & waves were just another alts who made devs millionares
[2016-11-05 16:07:09] y1uy : Zcash to pump on election I bet
[2016-11-05 16:12:27] numero : y1uy: habibi questions your judgement, but I think your hearts in the right place
[2016-11-05 16:13:15] y1uy : numero: I don't even know the guy, is he a good trader?
[2016-11-05 16:13:46] y1uy : I'm not a great trader, whatever I say should be taken with a grain of salt.
[2016-11-05 16:13:58] y1uy : that being said, Bitcoin will start going up soon
[2016-11-05 16:14:22] numero : y1uy: I'm not sure, he just trades his own, doesn't give advice here
[2016-11-05 16:23:02] NL007 : it would be nice to see more coins added here
[2016-11-05 16:24:34] Rado : NL007: I would rather see Gold, Oil and other futures
[2016-11-05 16:24:48] NL007 : Rado: yes
[2016-11-05 16:25:37] javierstone : whale club has those
[2016-11-05 16:36:42] zcasher7777 : zec is going down
[2016-11-05 16:36:53] zcasher7777 : 1 week and bye bye zec
[2016-11-05 16:38:14] numero : Rado: silver would be nice too
[2016-11-05 16:40:13] numero : I think of oil as the master currency, this industrial civilization of ours runs on energy
[2016-11-05 16:40:34] numero : I wonder what it means, that the oil price is deflating so?
[2016-11-05 16:41:15] zcasher7777 : oil can be a currency is price are unstable
[2016-11-05 16:41:21] zcasher7777 : cant be
[2016-11-05 16:41:51] zcasher7777 : the only thing that can be a currency is gold
[2016-11-05 16:42:20] zcasher7777 : gold value increasee rarely high with speculation it go high with the mining cost
[2016-11-05 16:42:43] zcasher7777 : and 100% gold based money will be the future
[2016-11-05 16:42:58] zcasher7777 : not our actual 10%based toitlet paper note
[2016-11-05 16:44:00] zcasher7777 : even a gold based crypto currency can be good but have to be based at 100% not 10%4
[2016-11-05 16:44:20] mjones : why can't we drag and drop the markets to reorder them the way we want it
[2016-11-05 16:44:25] numero : zcasher7777: is fiat even backed 10 % by gold though? I think it is backed by oil
[2016-11-05 16:45:05] zcasher7777 : numero: its backed by 10% gold mean that the other 90% paper value created is horse shit
[2016-11-05 16:45:47] mjmj83 : it's backed by an army
[2016-11-05 16:46:30] martinium : Rado: BTC MEWN or more down in your opinion
[2016-11-05 16:47:02] numero : mjmj83: I think that army runs on oil too
[2016-11-05 16:47:03] Rado : as I said yesterday a few days of consolidation
[2016-11-05 16:47:15] Rado : then we should resume the uptrend
[2016-11-05 16:47:27] martinium : Rado: are you on twitter or Tradingview?
[2016-11-05 16:47:33] Rado : yes
[2016-11-05 16:47:44] Rado : both
[2016-11-05 16:48:02] Rado : https://twitter.com/GlobalLife365
[2016-11-05 16:48:23] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/u/hubavka/
[2016-11-05 16:48:32] martinium : just followed on twitter
[2016-11-05 16:48:49] martinium : same on TV
[2016-11-05 16:49:07] Rado : ;-)
[2016-11-05 16:50:48] martinium : we have a similar trading style
[2016-11-05 16:51:31] Rado : you mean making money
[2016-11-05 16:51:31] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-05 16:52:03] Rado : it took me a few years (15) to start trading properly
[2016-11-05 16:52:38] Rado : made a lot of false start in the stock market and with options
[2016-11-05 16:52:58] Rado : but applied all the experience to crypto
[2016-11-05 16:54:31] y1uy : I want more cheap BTC ;(
[2016-11-05 16:54:32] y1uy : pa
[2016-11-05 16:54:36] martinium : Rado: I started trading at 19
[2016-11-05 16:54:42] martinium : Rado: I'm 30 now
[2016-11-05 16:54:44] Rado : nice
[2016-11-05 16:54:51] Rado : <--- old
[2016-11-05 16:54:51] martinium : was a long journey
[2016-11-05 16:54:56] Rado : started in 1997
[2016-11-05 16:55:06] martinium : during dotcom boom
[2016-11-05 16:55:12] Rado : yep
[2016-11-05 16:55:12] martinium : did you take a hit?
[2016-11-05 16:55:16] Rado : no
[2016-11-05 16:55:21] martinium : so many people got so rekt
[2016-11-05 16:55:22] Rado : that time I made money
[2016-11-05 16:55:31] Rado : then I thought it's easy
[2016-11-05 16:55:43] martinium : once ego gets involved = rekt
[2016-11-05 16:55:57] martinium : usualy leads to overrisking aka too large position sizing
[2016-11-05 16:56:04] Rado : yep
[2016-11-05 16:56:10] martinium : usually*
[2016-11-05 16:56:19] martinium : but I have paid my fair share of "tuition"
[2016-11-05 16:56:24] Rado : position size, stops, picking the right trades
[2016-11-05 16:56:35] Rado : all kind of things involved with trading
[2016-11-05 16:56:39] Rado : emotions etc
[2016-11-05 16:56:39] martinium : yep
[2016-11-05 16:56:43] martinium : patience is a key element
[2016-11-05 16:56:50] martinium : waiting for your entry
[2016-11-05 16:57:00] martinium : fomo is a big psychological factor
[2016-11-05 16:57:01] Rado : patience as well as knowing when to cut your loses and try again
[2016-11-05 16:57:22] martinium : most people don't know when to cut losses quickly
[2016-11-05 16:57:30] Rado : yesterday before the dump as was telling people here to get out
[2016-11-05 16:57:33] martinium : I myself still make errors from time to time
[2016-11-05 16:57:39] Rado : they thought it's just a small correction
[2016-11-05 16:57:46] martinium : I was thinking that and got rekt
[2016-11-05 16:57:47] Rado : everyone makes errors
[2016-11-05 16:57:56] martinium : i ignored my ta
[2016-11-05 16:57:57] Rado : even the great sleger
[2016-11-05 16:58:06] martinium : which told me to get out at 753 resistance
[2016-11-05 16:58:12] martinium : yet I relonged
[2016-11-05 16:58:15] martinium : at 727
[2016-11-05 16:58:24] martinium : lost 12.6 btc on liquidation
[2016-11-05 16:58:45] Rado : ouch
[2016-11-05 16:58:52] Rado : that hurts
[2016-11-05 16:58:55] martinium : but I'm already making it back bit by bit
[2016-11-05 16:58:57] martinium : yep
[2016-11-05 16:59:03] Rado : I have stops on all my trades
[2016-11-05 16:59:10] Rado : as soon as I enter a position
[2016-11-05 16:59:18] Rado : learned this when trading options
[2016-11-05 16:59:19] martinium : I trade oil futures and always set stops
[2016-11-05 16:59:25] martinium : but here in crypto havent used stops
[2016-11-05 16:59:30] Rado : with futures and options you can't afford to see what will happen
[2016-11-05 16:59:35] Rado : not like stocks or etfs
[2016-11-05 16:59:40] martinium : the leverage
[2016-11-05 16:59:49] martinium : same with this as well
[2016-11-05 16:59:55] martinium : but it behaves more like a levered stock
[2016-11-05 17:00:06] martinium : crypto is great for making gains
[2016-11-05 17:00:11] martinium : with proper entries
[2016-11-05 17:00:22] martinium : just can't get too greedy
[2016-11-05 17:00:29] martinium : greed cost me
[2016-11-05 17:00:49] martinium : lesson learned
[2016-11-05 17:01:16] Rado : martinium: just don't make it again
[2016-11-05 17:01:28] Rado : put a sticky on your PC with -12 BTC
[2016-11-05 17:01:52] martinium : I had a chance to market sell and I held off
[2016-11-05 17:01:55] martinium : then the dump
[2016-11-05 17:01:56] martinium : boom
[2016-11-05 17:02:02] Rado : it's fast
[2016-11-05 17:02:06] martinium : yup
[2016-11-05 17:02:23] Rado : I selling some right now
[2016-11-05 17:02:27] martinium : precision is key in trading
[2016-11-05 17:02:31] Rado : that I bought near teh bottom
[2016-11-05 17:02:38] Rado : just XBTUSD
[2016-11-05 17:02:55] Rado : holding my XBTZ16
[2016-11-05 17:02:58] martinium : big ass doji on weekly chart for the swap
[2016-11-05 17:03:34] Rado : martinium: talk to you later
[2016-11-05 17:03:40] martinium : cya
[2016-11-05 17:03:47] numero : do you guys use Ichimoku for ta?
[2016-11-05 17:03:49] Rado : going to run some errands and Lunch
[2016-11-05 17:03:56] Rado : numero: I don't
[2016-11-05 17:04:04] martinium : numero: I don't
[2016-11-05 17:04:15] martinium : numero: I use 0 indicators
[2016-11-05 17:04:19] numero : martinium: you have something better?
[2016-11-05 17:04:27] numero : animal spirits?
[2016-11-05 17:04:31] martinium : numero: I look at price and structure
[2016-11-05 17:04:37] martinium : and my crystal ball
[2016-11-05 17:04:41] sleger : apparently he doesnt have anything better
[2016-11-05 17:04:44] sleger : -12btc
[2016-11-05 17:05:03] numero : I would be REKT :o
[2016-11-05 17:05:16] martinium : its a lesson learned
[2016-11-05 17:05:21] sleger : he will be soon too
[2016-11-05 17:05:22] martinium : hard one but it is what it is
[2016-11-05 17:05:29] numero : I would be RUPT
[2016-11-05 17:05:38] martinium : sleger: your crystal ball tell you that? lol
[2016-11-05 17:05:52] sleger : guys like you come and go pretty fast around here
[2016-11-05 17:06:01] martinium : wrong about that
[2016-11-05 17:06:06] martinium : guys like me
[2016-11-05 17:06:13] martinium : you have no idea how or who I am
[2016-11-05 17:06:23] martinium : I've been trading a long time
[2016-11-05 17:06:29] martinium : but we all make mistakes
[2016-11-05 17:06:34] martinium : simple as that
[2016-11-05 17:07:00] numero : sleger: yeah, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop
[2016-11-05 17:07:08] sleger : i dont know who you are and i couldnt care less. However what i know is that you said some seriously dumb stuff the last weeks
[2016-11-05 17:08:55] martinium : sleger: I admit I did especially my first days in here
[2016-11-05 17:09:06] martinium : in the trollbox that is
[2016-11-05 17:09:15] martinium : never really used or cared to use one
[2016-11-05 17:09:47] sleger : thumb up for admitting it
[2016-11-05 17:10:51] martinium : sleger: it's all good man
[2016-11-05 17:11:11] sleger : tempted to buy some zcash
[2016-11-05 17:11:52] martinium : sleger: it's nice and sideways
[2016-11-05 17:12:18] sleger : just to dump it in the next pump
[2016-11-05 17:16:49] sleger : zcash is dead : Zclassic is a Zcash Fork with No 20% Founders Tax