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[2016-11-04 19:00:04] BitMEX_Sam : They do matter, the basis to polo still depends on the book here.
[2016-11-04 19:02:08] wurstgelee : ok, short term it does
[2016-11-04 19:02:10] wurstgelee : i agree
[2016-11-04 19:02:20] wurstgelee : doesnt at settlement tho
[2016-11-04 19:02:21] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 19:05:01] khessabi2 : BitMEX_Sam: thx but that kind of spread isn't acceptable....If I had A million do some market making for u guys =))).....but the fact is I'm just a Normal dude ! ;)
[2016-11-04 19:05:22] wurstgelee : spreads tend to be high on alts here
[2016-11-04 19:05:24] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-04 19:05:30] wurstgelee : there are most likely hidden orders tho ;)
[2016-11-04 19:05:54] wurstgelee : use post-only order to check ;)
[2016-11-04 19:06:42] khessabi2 : wurstgelee: yeah =))...ok I will ;)
[2016-11-04 19:06:44] wurstgelee : bots might be checking that too and accept your offer
[2016-11-04 19:06:49] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-04 19:06:55] wurstgelee : just that u know
[2016-11-04 19:07:15] khessabi2 : just looking on litecoin trade here =)))))))
[2016-11-04 19:07:20] khessabi2 : poor lite
[2016-11-04 19:07:24] wurstgelee : hehehe
[2016-11-04 19:07:50] QuantFocus : china will use LTC to circumvent BTC transfer bans
[2016-11-04 19:08:08] khessabi2 : QuantFocus: opinion or fact?
[2016-11-04 19:08:08] hhhhh : can someone explain to me what the funding rate means? like if i short BTC/USD then i receive the funding rate % on that trade?
[2016-11-04 19:08:09] rapidtrades : no ZEC
[2016-11-04 19:08:23] rapidtrades : they will use ZEC stupids, the premium anoncoin
[2016-11-04 19:08:25] QuantFocus : khessabi2: just bullshitting. but it's possible
[2016-11-04 19:08:43] khessabi2 : QuantFocus: maybe
[2016-11-04 19:08:49] BitMEX_Sam : hhhhh: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2016-11-04 19:08:52] QuantFocus : LTC is still one of the deepest alt markets. can absorb more capital than most without slippage
[2016-11-04 19:09:07] hhhhh : BitMEX_Sam: yeah i read that and i dont understand
[2016-11-04 19:09:29] QuantFocus : does it still have utility? maybe not...but definitely can handle volume
[2016-11-04 19:09:29] rapidtrades : surely they will phrase the restrictions to include all crypto not BTC only?
[2016-11-04 19:09:40] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: doubtful
[2016-11-04 19:09:42] hhhhh : BitMEX_Sam: can you give an exampple wit ha short?
[2016-11-04 19:09:47] khessabi2 : QuantFocus: check this idea on tradingview on LTC https://www.tradingview.com/chart/LTCBTC/IOPWr67e-LTCBTC-Let-s-wrap-it-up-Enjoy/
[2016-11-04 19:09:51] rapidtrades : wtf...what do u mean doubtful
[2016-11-04 19:10:15] BitMEX_Sam : hhhhh: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuideExamples#Long-ETHXBT-Swap-Example
[2016-11-04 19:10:24] rapidtrades : why would they put 'bitcoin' in a law when they can use 'cryptocurrency'
[2016-11-04 19:10:26] BitMEX_Greg : hhhhh: `Funding: Periodic payments exchanged between the buyer and seller every 8 hours. If the rate is positive, then longs will pay and shorts will receive the rate, and vice versa if the rate is negative. `
[2016-11-04 19:10:41] rapidtrades : thats like banning Philip Morris ads and not cigarettes
[2016-11-04 19:10:57] wurstgelee : because this is stupid and china wont ban bitcoin
[2016-11-04 19:11:00] wurstgelee : or crypto
[2016-11-04 19:11:17] rapidtrades : they'll add restrictions tho
[2016-11-04 19:11:22] hhhhh : BitMEX_Greg: would a short position receive the funding rate on its whole position including the margin it has on?
[2016-11-04 19:11:37] hhhhh : oh and thaks for all this help
[2016-11-04 19:11:51] QuantFocus : khessabi2: not bad
[2016-11-04 19:12:04] BitMEX_Greg : hhhhh: It is on the total notional of the position
[2016-11-04 19:12:40] hhhhh : BitMEX_Greg: so basically the total order value including margin right?
[2016-11-04 19:12:48] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: they wont cripple it seriously. also how could they possibly prevent btc from being transfered abroad? ;)
[2016-11-04 19:12:55] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: i just think govt's are slow and reactive. i don't think they even know what "cryptocurrency" is...just bitcoin because of it's prevalence
[2016-11-04 19:12:57] wurstgelee : technically?
[2016-11-04 19:12:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 19:13:11] BitMEX_Greg : hhhhh: The total order value (which yes effectively includes your margin)
[2016-11-04 19:13:15] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: they can control the ability to purchase it
[2016-11-04 19:13:23] QuantFocus : via bank accounts and trade platforms
[2016-11-04 19:13:54] wurstgelee : that would cripple it too much
[2016-11-04 19:13:59] hhhhh : BitMEX_Greg: i see. so then if the rate is positive then why wouldn't everyone short the asset to get that fudning rate percentage?
[2016-11-04 19:14:04] wurstgelee : china has no intend in that
[2016-11-04 19:14:06] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 19:14:23] BitMEX_Greg : hhhhh: They do
[2016-11-04 19:14:31] QuantFocus : hhhhh: 1) the spread, 2) volatility
[2016-11-04 19:15:03] QuantFocus : it's certainly not a risk free trade, trying to pick up that funding
[2016-11-04 19:15:15] BitMEX_Greg : hhhhh: But yes, also some people may think that the asset may go up more than the funding
[2016-11-04 19:15:59] hhhhh : QuantFocus: @BitMEX_Greg i see now thanks guys. do these funding rate expiries tend to be very volatile periods on Bitmex?
[2016-11-04 19:16:42] QuantFocus : yes
[2016-11-04 19:17:04] QuantFocus : maybe not with funding rate at .02% like it is now, but when it's near caps
[2016-11-04 19:17:23] hhhhh : gotcha
[2016-11-04 19:17:32] wurstgelee : sooo...dump inbound*
[2016-11-04 19:17:36] wurstgelee : *knocksonwood*
[2016-11-04 19:17:57] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: my bet is we see something within 6 hours
[2016-11-04 19:18:05] wurstgelee : my short agrees ;)
[2016-11-04 19:18:08] QuantFocus : 80% probability down move
[2016-11-04 19:18:21] wurstgelee : based on? or your estimate?
[2016-11-04 19:18:37] QuantFocus : estimate based on ta
[2016-11-04 19:18:40] arbitrage001 : please go down to 100 so i can buy lol
[2016-11-04 19:18:44] arbitrage001 : or 1
[2016-11-04 19:18:44] rapidtrades : his asstimate
[2016-11-04 19:18:53] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: :whale:
[2016-11-04 19:19:06] QuantFocus : but he's right. i just make this shit up as i go
[2016-11-04 19:19:34] wurstgelee : thought so but i was wondering how u came to that percentage
[2016-11-04 19:20:09] arbitrage001 : statistician always pull number out of their ass
[2016-11-04 19:20:19] wurstgelee : not so sure we will have to wait hours tbh
[2016-11-04 19:20:21] QuantFocus : i have an algorithmic regression i run
[2016-11-04 19:21:00] QuantFocus : 60% of the time, it works every time
[2016-11-04 19:21:54] wurstgelee : i only drink a little and rarely but if i do, i drink a lot and frequently
[2016-11-04 19:22:18] QuantFocus : :cheers:
[2016-11-04 19:22:28] wurstgelee : A la votre!
[2016-11-04 19:26:15] haxmb : admins here?
[2016-11-04 19:26:28] wurstgelee : hm. bulls vs bears atm okc/huobi
[2016-11-04 19:26:52] haxmb : BitMEX_Greg: @BitMEX_Sam you guys changed the contract type for ETH right?
[2016-11-04 19:27:04] wurstgelee : haxmb: perpetual died today
[2016-11-04 19:27:12] wurstgelee : alts are 7d futures now
[2016-11-04 19:27:19] haxmb : I did not receive any advance notice of this, where was the announcement?
[2016-11-04 19:27:28] wurstgelee : some announcement
[2016-11-04 19:27:30] wurstgelee : also email
[2016-11-04 19:27:36] haxmb : wurstgelee: when :o
[2016-11-04 19:27:36] BitMEX_Greg : haxmb: We sent out an email about 2 weeks ago
[2016-11-04 19:27:43] wurstgelee : that ;)
[2016-11-04 19:27:54] haxmb : ok, crap
[2016-11-04 19:27:56] BitMEX_Greg : haxmb: Also in the blog here: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/important-changes-altcoin-derivative-products/
[2016-11-04 19:28:06] BitMEX_Greg : and the little announcements icon at the top
[2016-11-04 19:28:43] haxmb : in one of the crypto traders digest mails?
[2016-11-04 19:29:02] haxmb : because I'd appreciate it in a separate mail with a title like "symbol changes" or something
[2016-11-04 19:29:19] wurstgelee : i dont like this. closed my short oO
[2016-11-04 19:29:28] haxmb : this is the second or third time you changed something that fucked up my system :P
[2016-11-04 19:29:54] wurstgelee : bitmex is a fluid organism
[2016-11-04 19:29:57] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 19:30:21] RoftheN : Oh Lisk dissapeared
[2016-11-04 19:30:24] BitMEX_Greg : haxmb: The title was "Important Changes to Altcoin Derivative Products"
[2016-11-04 19:30:31] BitMEX_Greg : subject line*
[2016-11-04 19:31:06] haxmb : well then I'm not on your email list :O
[2016-11-04 19:31:09] haxmb : shit
[2016-11-04 19:31:14] RoftheN : can anyone make me money by saying what I should do with 0.1 BTC, what, how much leverage and when?
[2016-11-04 19:31:24] RoftheN : Even I'm on the email list
[2016-11-04 19:31:48] haxmb : I did not get an email with that message
[2016-11-04 19:31:51] haxmb : only getting digests
[2016-11-04 19:32:13] wurstgelee : from same email-db?
[2016-11-04 19:32:13] haxmb : could you add me to the list of those kind of announcements?
[2016-11-04 19:32:16] wurstgelee : probably
[2016-11-04 19:33:43] haxmb : BitMEX_Greg: can i be put on the list? :D
[2016-11-04 19:34:46] BitMEX_Greg : haxmb: Can you send us a support ticket with you are not getting the emails sent to? You should have received this
[2016-11-04 19:38:11] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: We took a look, it appears you manually unsubscribed from these messages. I can re-add you if you like.
[2016-11-04 19:44:15] sleger : how could you do that...
[2016-11-04 19:48:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.001375
[2016-11-04 19:51:01] wurstgelee : i am glad i switched to long tbh....
[2016-11-04 19:54:46] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: :?
[2016-11-04 19:54:47] haxmb : :/
[2016-11-04 19:54:50] haxmb : whoopsie
[2016-11-04 19:54:51] haxmb : :D
[2016-11-04 19:54:54] haxmb : cheers lads
[2016-11-04 19:55:14] Chumba : someone offering 25bitcoin reward to darknet markets for zcash integration
[2016-11-04 19:55:52] javierstone : lol
[2016-11-04 19:56:39] BitMEX_Greg : haxmb: all good?
[2016-11-04 19:57:31] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: Why does the entry price only change when I increase my position, but not when I partially net out?
[2016-11-04 19:57:33] arbitrage001 : Chumba: source?
[2016-11-04 19:57:50] sleger : Cryptlex: when you exit you dont enter
[2016-11-04 19:57:51] Chumba : reddit
[2016-11-04 19:57:58] sleger : so why would it change your enter price
[2016-11-04 19:58:20] javierstone : dow and s&p closing down
[2016-11-04 19:58:22] javierstone : bad news
[2016-11-04 19:58:25] javierstone : good for btc
[2016-11-04 19:58:46] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: as sleger finely put it
[2016-11-04 19:58:49] sleger : btc has ZERO correlation to dow/s&p
[2016-11-04 19:59:15] wurstgelee : unless massive crash of dow/s&p
[2016-11-04 19:59:21] wurstgelee : but thats a special case
[2016-11-04 19:59:26] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: fine will do, but I aim for excellence
[2016-11-04 20:00:17] khessabi2 : show me your self 666 =))
[2016-11-04 20:00:29] khessabi2 : come on ...come to daddy
[2016-11-04 20:00:44] khessabi2 : 666 on ETC
[2016-11-04 20:01:13] khessabi2 : set 666 on 138 =))
[2016-11-04 20:02:05] javierstone : dow closed down 8 days in a row, first time since 1980
[2016-11-04 20:02:34] Tetsuo : khessabi2: The devil actually loves 138 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4IqSGhQkz8
[2016-11-04 20:03:52] khessabi2 : Tetsuo: loooool
[2016-11-04 20:04:16] khessabi2 : Tetsuo: what the is that ..I prefer 666
[2016-11-04 20:04:34] khessabi2 : hell*
[2016-11-04 20:12:53] wurstgelee : 4700
[2016-11-04 20:12:59] javierstone : yup
[2016-11-04 20:13:03] javierstone : dow
[2016-11-04 20:13:05] javierstone : and s&p
[2016-11-04 20:13:16] javierstone : http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/11/04/stocks-dow-friday/93282134/
[2016-11-04 20:13:23] wurstgelee : no, raindance and pan flutes
[2016-11-04 20:13:26] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 20:13:44] javierstone : exactly
[2016-11-04 20:14:27] martinium : after US elections stocks going to crash/correct
[2016-11-04 20:14:29] martinium : long overdue
[2016-11-04 20:14:34] martinium : bitcoin will benefit
[2016-11-04 20:14:55] wurstgelee : trump would be great for that
[2016-11-04 20:15:04] wurstgelee : for market shock effect
[2016-11-04 20:15:15] martinium : Hillary will be going to prison also
[2016-11-04 20:15:30] wurstgelee : they both deserve to probably
[2016-11-04 20:15:47] sleger : what did trump do to deserve prison ??
[2016-11-04 20:16:00] martinium : no
[2016-11-04 20:16:06] martinium : Trump not going to prison
[2016-11-04 20:16:11] martinium : that cunt Hillary is
[2016-11-04 20:16:18] martinium : Cuunt
[2016-11-04 20:16:27] martinium : not kitten
[2016-11-04 20:16:27] wurstgelee : i didnt say will, i said deserve ;)
[2016-11-04 20:16:51] martinium : Clintons a bunch of pedos
[2016-11-04 20:17:04] martinium : big trafficking ring being uncovered
[2016-11-04 20:17:19] martinium : despicable people
[2016-11-04 20:17:53] mjones : trump plane about to land for his next rally
[2016-11-04 20:20:09] sleger : wurstgelee: you did not explain why
[2016-11-04 20:20:20] javierstone : what charts do you guys use?
[2016-11-04 20:20:22] javierstone : non-bitmex
[2016-11-04 20:20:25] wurstgelee : sec, brb
[2016-11-04 20:22:38] arbitrage001 : martinium: hillary have support of the rulisng class
[2016-11-04 20:22:57] martinium : arbitrage001: of Soros and all the corrupt bastards
[2016-11-04 20:23:00] arbitrage001 : mean she can pretty much get away with anything
[2016-11-04 20:23:19] martinium : their will be civil war in USA if she wins
[2016-11-04 20:23:21] arbitrage001 : reason i think trump cant win
[2016-11-04 20:23:33] martinium : Trump going to pull a surprise W
[2016-11-04 20:23:40] javierstone : trump can't win but its likely their will be contested election
[2016-11-04 20:23:43] arbitrage001 : doubtful
[2016-11-04 20:23:45] martinium : and shut all the libtards down
[2016-11-04 20:23:48] wurstgelee : re
[2016-11-04 20:24:54] wurstgelee : sleger: because of the mass of lawsuits against him. all summed up probably enough reasons for him to sped some time in jail. altho he doesnt or didnt
[2016-11-04 20:24:57] wurstgelee : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump
[2016-11-04 20:25:09] wurstgelee : again..probably ;)
[2016-11-04 20:25:12] martinium : wurstgelee: have you seen Hillaries rap sheet?
[2016-11-04 20:25:21] martinium : all the leaks and everything??
[2016-11-04 20:25:30] martinium : Killary must not be allowed to hold office
[2016-11-04 20:25:37] wurstgelee : you are obviously mistaken twice
[2016-11-04 20:25:40] martinium : her office should be the deepest darkest hole with no keys
[2016-11-04 20:25:55] martinium : www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com
[2016-11-04 20:26:02] martinium : read and be enlightened
[2016-11-04 20:26:07] wurstgelee : 1) you cant make person a look better by making person b look worse
[2016-11-04 20:26:13] arbitrage001 : martinium: non-ruling class opinion doesnt matter much
[2016-11-04 20:26:14] wurstgelee : 2) i am not defending hillary ffs
[2016-11-04 20:26:25] martinium : wurstgelee: I understand
[2016-11-04 20:26:38] martinium : US stuck with bad choices either way
[2016-11-04 20:26:49] martinium : but Killary will start WW3 with Russia
[2016-11-04 20:26:55] arbitrage001 : martinium: civil war is better
[2016-11-04 20:27:07] arbitrage001 : let's do north vs south again
[2016-11-04 20:27:12] wurstgelee : sleger asked me a question re trump and you imediately jump in to tell how bad she is.. and there is the problem
[2016-11-04 20:27:29] wurstgelee : u ave to choose the losser evil
[2016-11-04 20:27:31] wurstgelee : *h
[2016-11-04 20:27:32] martinium : arbitrage001: haha nah man there are mixed populations of freedom lovers both north and south
[2016-11-04 20:27:32] hhhhh : arguing about 2 troll politicians in a trollbox on a crypto exchange platform... this is mad funny :)
[2016-11-04 20:27:42] martinium : hhhhh: no argument
[2016-11-04 20:27:46] martinium : people discussing
[2016-11-04 20:27:48] martinium : :-p
[2016-11-04 20:27:52] wurstgelee : noone with a sane mind can possibly tihnk one of the candidates is a great choice?!
[2016-11-04 20:27:53] hhhhh : martinium: lmfao
[2016-11-04 20:28:17] wurstgelee : its sorting shit by smell imo
[2016-11-04 20:28:24] martinium : literally
[2016-11-04 20:28:29] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-04 20:28:45] martinium : common people will have to rise up
[2016-11-04 20:28:47] hhhhh : btw this btc long smells delicious
[2016-11-04 20:28:55] wurstgelee : it does
[2016-11-04 20:28:55] martinium : but most are brainwashed or to chicken shit to fight
[2016-11-04 20:29:10] wurstgelee : right now. would be more comfortable with it if we were 30 cny higher
[2016-11-04 20:29:16] wurstgelee : 2740 seems a good place for a rest
[2016-11-04 20:29:21] wurstgelee : 4740 ofc
[2016-11-04 20:29:26] martinium : lol
[2016-11-04 20:29:31] martinium : was about to say 2740!?!?!
[2016-11-04 20:29:34] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-04 20:29:37] martinium : :-p
[2016-11-04 20:30:17] wurstgelee : slightly above 700 just feels better than slightly below ;)
[2016-11-04 20:30:33] hhhhh : yep
[2016-11-04 20:30:35] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: btc long due for correction anyway
[2016-11-04 20:30:49] arbitrage001 : 150 in jan till 700+ now
[2016-11-04 20:30:51] wurstgelee : yes. but psssssst. it doesnt know yet
[2016-11-04 20:30:54] wurstgelee : dont make it shy
[2016-11-04 20:30:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 20:31:53] hhhhh : lmfao
[2016-11-04 20:33:00] lockhedge : wurstgelee: doesn't it actually make sense to discuss who the bigger evil is if the election is about choosing the lesser of two evils ;)
[2016-11-04 20:33:35] arbitrage001 : lockhedge: depend on where you are in the world, doesnt it?
[2016-11-04 20:33:50] wurstgelee : if you only mainly focus on the morale side but not so much on competence, yes
[2016-11-04 20:33:52] arbitrage001 : american, european, asian
[2016-11-04 20:33:55] wurstgelee : have to consider both imo
[2016-11-04 20:33:59] arbitrage001 : russian
[2016-11-04 20:34:05] wurstgelee : but then again, i am a few 1000 miles away
[2016-11-04 20:34:09] wurstgelee : popcorn is ready
[2016-11-04 20:34:36] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: the consequences of the election will affect other countries the most
[2016-11-04 20:35:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 15000 @ 722.03
[2016-11-04 20:36:36] wurstgelee : maybe, maybe not. i dont really care so much tho. i am not easily economically challengable ;) and if anything annoys me, i can simple move away to some other place
[2016-11-04 20:36:43] wurstgelee : no wife, no kids
[2016-11-04 20:36:45] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 20:36:59] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: what about social stability?
[2016-11-04 20:37:04] arbitrage001 : security
[2016-11-04 20:37:09] wurstgelee : enough of that in german as of today
[2016-11-04 20:37:14] wurstgelee : both
[2016-11-04 20:37:20] wurstgelee : *y
[2016-11-04 20:37:38] arbitrage001 : in my country, bank ceo, department of corruption head get murdered
[2016-11-04 20:37:53] arbitrage001 : people dont go out at night
[2016-11-04 20:37:58] wurstgelee : thats a lot diffrent then
[2016-11-04 20:38:15] wurstgelee : south america?
[2016-11-04 20:38:20] arbitrage001 : malaysia
[2016-11-04 20:38:32] arbitrage001 : google our prime minister
[2016-11-04 20:38:35] wurstgelee : asia would have been 2nd guess
[2016-11-04 20:38:36] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 20:38:39] arbitrage001 : headline all over the world
[2016-11-04 20:38:44] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: yep, i got that
[2016-11-04 20:38:48] wurstgelee : here as well
[2016-11-04 20:38:50] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-04 20:39:30] wurstgelee : be gone my long...
[2016-11-04 20:39:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 20:46:01] javierstone : how does bitmex's volume compare to bitfinix
[2016-11-04 20:48:50] kradiav : different products
[2016-11-04 20:49:29] kradiav : while bitfinex has shitload of volume, the profit making here if you are experienced, is awesome
[2016-11-04 20:49:40] kradiav : but you can get rekt incredible otherwise
[2016-11-04 20:51:38] javierstone : why the higher stakes?
[2016-11-04 20:52:36] QuantFocus : javierstone: leverage
[2016-11-04 20:52:43] QuantFocus : 100x is pretty insane
[2016-11-04 20:55:54] Tetsuo : BTC is such an old whore nowadays it´s used like a condom to slip into those fresh and juicy alts
[2016-11-04 20:56:18] javierstone : jesus what an image
[2016-11-04 20:58:58] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: poetic. i shed a tear
[2016-11-04 21:06:24] Tetsuo : ETC is hotter than a fantasy right now
[2016-11-04 21:08:07] mjones : ETC just needs 500 BTC and it'll go crazy
[2016-11-04 21:10:32] Sidwick : what does every friday 10x mean?
[2016-11-04 21:11:13] BitMEX_Sam : Sidwick: Contract expires every Friday, 10x leverage
[2016-11-04 21:11:23] Sidwick : what time on friday
[2016-11-04 21:11:30] BitMEX_Sam : 12:00 UTC
[2016-11-04 21:11:50] Sidwick : so the contracts expired 5 hours ago?
[2016-11-04 21:11:59] Sidwick : and the ones now are essentially for a full week?
[2016-11-04 21:12:13] Sidwick : 9 hours ago*
[2016-11-04 21:15:24] Tetsuo : ETC on BTCC is like LTC on GOX
[2016-11-04 21:16:12] Tetsuo : just imagine if okc and huohbibi follow
[2016-11-04 21:17:52] mjones : etc lol
[2016-11-04 21:18:11] mjones : yes Sidwick you can open and hold a position for a week
[2016-11-04 21:19:24] javierstone : everyone is so afraid of 700
[2016-11-04 21:19:48] javierstone : china just hit that 4700 again
[2016-11-04 21:30:18] mjones : should have fomo 20x long ETC before it started pumping
[2016-11-04 21:31:08] mjones : good luck getting into ETC for the pump now
[2016-11-04 21:31:09] habibi : u should have play lottery if u would known the numbers
[2016-11-04 21:40:42] Tetsuo : B U Y
[2016-11-04 21:41:44] Tetsuo : ETC or a money printing machine ... what´s the difference
[2016-11-04 21:49:13] sleger : ETC much lighter to carry
[2016-11-04 21:51:09] Tetsuo : sleger: thx for providing some fundamental analysis
[2016-11-04 22:19:34] numero : what would you do-o-o for a bitcoin?
[2016-11-04 22:20:58] Rekted : suck a dick?
[2016-11-04 22:21:39] martinium : Rekted: you have experience?
[2016-11-04 22:22:08] Tetsuo : if they go low, we go high
[2016-11-04 22:22:10] Tetsuo : fly ETC
[2016-11-04 22:22:18] Rekted : not at all unfortunatle
[2016-11-04 22:22:28] martinium : Rekted: hehe
[2016-11-04 22:22:40] Rekted : unfortunately
[2016-11-04 22:23:32] numero : Tetsuo: seems like a local high doesn't it?
[2016-11-04 22:24:10] numero : for ETC
[2016-11-04 22:24:30] martinium : BTC looks like its about to dump
[2016-11-04 22:24:54] Rekted : numero: sned me a btc and i will answer to your question
[2016-11-04 22:24:57] Tetsuo : numero: u have seen crazy alt pumps before haven´t you. When FOMO get´s real logic gets left behind.
[2016-11-04 22:24:58] Rekted : send
[2016-11-04 22:25:27] numero : Tetsuo: no this will by first crazy alt pump . . . unless you count ZEC
[2016-11-04 22:25:35] numero : Rekted: I'd rather keep the btc
[2016-11-04 22:26:42] numero : I would work for 2 40 hour weeks at minimum wage for a bitcoin
[2016-11-04 22:26:44] Tetsuo : XMR doesn´t look to shabby either
[2016-11-04 22:27:39] Tetsuo : pray to the alt savior of your choice . The 2nd coming is about to get real
[2016-11-04 22:28:19] martinium : numero: you have a whole bitcoin I bet
[2016-11-04 22:33:33] numero : martinium: how much do you want to bet?
[2016-11-04 22:39:16] martinium : 0 btc
[2016-11-04 22:39:26] martinium : is what I want to bet
[2016-11-04 22:39:44] martinium : if you are trading on here I bet you have plenty of btc
[2016-11-04 22:39:47] martinium : :-p
[2016-11-04 22:40:36] martinium : so many shorts that after next rebalance longs will make 10 basis points on their positions
[2016-11-04 22:40:42] martinium : on xbtusd
[2016-11-04 22:44:50] rapidtrades : oh no :(
[2016-11-04 22:45:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.001433
[2016-11-04 22:45:38] wurstgelee : operation fomo long looking good so far
[2016-11-04 22:45:58] BitMEX_Sam : That was quite a spike.
[2016-11-04 22:46:02] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-04 22:46:10] wurstgelee : very sudden also
[2016-11-04 22:46:13] BitMEX_Sam : China's pushing ETC hard.
[2016-11-04 22:46:28] wurstgelee : its a serious pump
[2016-11-04 22:46:34] BitMEX_Sam : Further cementing what a terrible idea the DAO was
[2016-11-04 22:46:35] wurstgelee : quite hape i bought some
[2016-11-04 22:46:40] wurstgelee : i regret buying spot tho
[2016-11-04 22:46:42] BitMEX_Sam : Probably one of the worst projects ever to happen to crypto
[2016-11-04 22:46:43] wurstgelee : should have longed here
[2016-11-04 22:46:52] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-04 22:46:54] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it's easier here, no need to deal with physical
[2016-11-04 22:46:59] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: I agree
[2016-11-04 22:47:17] wurstgelee : dao was bad twice
[2016-11-04 22:47:17] BitMEX_Sam : Seems every week you hear about some bad geth exploit and the like.
[2016-11-04 22:47:19] rapidtrades : yeah long here and deal with 7% spread
[2016-11-04 22:47:28] wurstgelee : first they fucked up the dao, then they rolled bag and nailed the coffin
[2016-11-04 22:47:37] wurstgelee : back
[2016-11-04 22:47:38] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-04 22:47:55] wurstgelee : roll back as in temper with the ledger
[2016-11-04 22:48:02] rapidtrades : so any new news? are we still at the tweet from BTCC
[2016-11-04 22:48:02] wurstgelee : tamper? temper?
[2016-11-04 22:48:04] wurstgelee : whatever
[2016-11-04 22:48:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, when you're selling crypto as an alternative to chargebacks and mutable agreements, it looks bad
[2016-11-04 22:48:28] BitMEX_Sam : Of course, the reality is that nobody can get code right, much like nobody can write a perfect law
[2016-11-04 22:48:38] BitMEX_Sam : Very similar problems in a lot of ways, but crypto backed itself into a bit of a corner
[2016-11-04 22:48:40] Tetsuo : eye for an eye works for m
[2016-11-04 22:48:46] Tetsuo : e
[2016-11-04 22:48:58] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: are u high atm
[2016-11-04 22:48:58] wurstgelee : those staircaises okc is printing on 1min look completely natural
[2016-11-04 22:49:11] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: sherlock : - )
[2016-11-04 22:49:35] Tetsuo : like a kite, it´s friday, i think
[2016-11-04 22:50:04] BitMEX_Sam : OKC spot @wurstgelee?
[2016-11-04 22:50:05] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: its ok to fuck up because of a mistake. those happen. its not ok to fork for a bailout imo ;)
[2016-11-04 22:50:13] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: and weekly
[2016-11-04 22:50:21] wurstgelee : and quertly
[2016-11-04 22:50:25] BitMEX_Sam : Honestly the whole community moves too fast, I think that's true of just about all of it
[2016-11-04 22:50:26] wurstgelee : quarterly
[2016-11-04 22:50:37] wurstgelee : 3 perfect staircases ;)
[2016-11-04 22:50:45] BitMEX_Sam : Building your own language & basing your smart conts on it without building any kind of formal verification technique was obviously a recipe for error
[2016-11-04 22:51:04] wurstgelee : ..who would have thought... ;)
[2016-11-04 22:51:18] rapidtrades : ...guys he's a regular here
[2016-11-04 22:51:38] wurstgelee : ?
[2016-11-04 22:51:50] BitMEX_Sam : Emin Gun Sirer did some great analysis on it back then
[2016-11-04 22:52:43] wurstgelee : i recall that
[2016-11-04 22:52:49] wurstgelee : was present a lot on twitter
[2016-11-04 22:53:10] wurstgelee : come on btc, stay the f.. above 2740 ;)
[2016-11-04 22:53:20] rapidtrades : sleger: u reading this?
[2016-11-04 22:53:31] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: do u worship our new savior TEC
[2016-11-04 22:53:35] Tetsuo : ETC
[2016-11-04 22:53:46] rapidtrades : no i missed it
[2016-11-04 22:53:46] wurstgelee : fuck i do (atm)
[2016-11-04 22:54:04] rapidtrades : i didn't want to commit based on that tweet alone
[2016-11-04 22:54:13] wurstgelee : chhoo choo
[2016-11-04 22:54:15] wurstgelee : btc
[2016-11-04 22:54:51] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: an official tweet from an exchange is trated like moses 10 panels in cryptoland
[2016-11-04 22:54:59] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-11-04 22:55:30] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-04 22:56:29] Tetsuo : normally the market only trades on photos taken by a mobile from bloomberg terminals
[2016-11-04 22:56:32] mjones : rip alts
[2016-11-04 22:57:08] rapidtrades : ETH dump
[2016-11-04 22:57:15] wurstgelee : yeah, i dumped etc at once
[2016-11-04 22:57:31] rapidtrades : time to roll into the new kid on the block, ZEC
[2016-11-04 22:57:53] wurstgelee : not giving up
[2016-11-04 22:57:55] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 22:58:18] wurstgelee : u would need to be it @ 3 dec anyways
[2016-11-04 22:58:25] wurstgelee : it wont go to 3 earlier here ;)
[2016-11-04 22:58:36] wurstgelee : it to be
[2016-11-04 22:58:40] wurstgelee : cheers
[2016-11-04 22:58:46] rapidtrades : wouldn't be so sure
[2016-11-04 22:58:46] wurstgelee : 30 also
[2016-11-04 22:58:50] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-04 22:59:01] wurstgelee : the majority wouldnt expect it to stay there if it goes that high
[2016-11-04 22:59:12] rapidtrades : let's say it breaks 3.5 on polo, sentiment will change from bear to bull
[2016-11-04 22:59:14] wurstgelee : everyone would short tf out of it if it goes anyhwere near 1 here
[2016-11-04 22:59:19] wurstgelee : me included
[2016-11-04 22:59:23] wurstgelee : *early
[2016-11-04 22:59:25] wurstgelee : not late
[2016-11-04 22:59:26] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-04 22:59:28] rapidtrades : so in theory u could see discount >premium
[2016-11-04 22:59:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 12 @ 0.002909
[2016-11-04 22:59:46] martinium : XBT MEWN?
[2016-11-04 22:59:48] wurstgelee : back to more important things
[2016-11-04 22:59:51] wurstgelee : choo choo btc
[2016-11-04 23:00:55] mjones : btc fake out pump
[2016-11-04 23:01:59] wurstgelee : starting to think that too tbh...
[2016-11-04 23:03:03] orly : rapidtrades: looks like i was wrong about kraken - seems unlikely to enable zec margin today anymore :/
[2016-11-04 23:03:32] rapidtrades : tnx bud
[2016-11-04 23:03:34] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-anti-theft-feature-sees-sidechains-testing/
[2016-11-04 23:03:50] wurstgelee : ooorrrrrr.
[2016-11-04 23:04:17] hhhhh : orly: short ZEC spot price? that would be huge? is kraken coming out with that soon? what do you know?
[2016-11-04 23:05:14] martinium : wurstgelee: where do you see btc going from here
[2016-11-04 23:05:48] rapidtrades : hhhhh: i think they only provide margin on small number of coins like BTC,LTC and ETH
[2016-11-04 23:05:49] wurstgelee : martinium: i can see me going to bed from here
[2016-11-04 23:05:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 23:05:58] martinium : wurstgelee: haha nite then mate
[2016-11-04 23:06:03] orly : hhhhh: not much, they announced 1 week ago that it would be "coming soon"
[2016-11-04 23:06:17] orly : last time they said that, it took them 1 week to enable it, so i was kinda expecting it by today
[2016-11-04 23:06:36] hhhhh : orly: ok thanks. yeah that will be the best short of the year haha
[2016-11-04 23:06:43] hhhhh : useless coin
[2016-11-04 23:07:14] rapidtrades : well ur mom is useless too but she still gather attention for money
[2016-11-04 23:08:17] orly : hhhhh: yeah i wasn't gonna go long on it either :) maybe next week i guess
[2016-11-04 23:09:08] rapidtrades : if u look here https://www.kraken.com/en-us/help/fees
[2016-11-04 23:09:29] rapidtrades : u will see lot of coins don't have roll cost, meaning they're not providing margin for them
[2016-11-04 23:10:49] rapidtrades : although in their blog they do say 'Margin Coming Soon'
[2016-11-04 23:11:06] rapidtrades : so they plan to do it sometime
[2016-11-04 23:11:28] hhhhh : rapidtrades: the sooner the better
[2016-11-04 23:12:14] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: can u margin trade ETC@kraken?
[2016-11-04 23:12:27] rapidtrades : yes..i think it's 0.02% per day
[2016-11-04 23:12:32] rapidtrades : see the link
[2016-11-04 23:27:13] Tetsuo : "Blood simple" is such a perfect movie.
[2016-11-04 23:28:05] Tetsuo : Gives me even more warm buzzy feeling than ETC, and that means something
[2016-11-04 23:29:25] martinium : Tetsuo: Are you an Akira fan?
[2016-11-04 23:29:39] Tetsuo : u can call me Rashomon
[2016-11-04 23:29:44] martinium : hehe
[2016-11-04 23:30:16] Tetsuo : akira kurosawa or were u alkin about that anime
[2016-11-04 23:30:21] Tetsuo : which is also fine
[2016-11-04 23:30:44] Tetsuo : but kurosawa is definitely among my top 3 filmmakers
[2016-11-04 23:31:59] martinium : Akira still is cool after so many years
[2016-11-04 23:32:40] Tetsuo : martinium: haven´t watched for ~15 years, maybe tonight. i´m in the right mood now
[2016-11-04 23:33:11] Tetsuo : i still own that LASERDISC though
[2016-11-04 23:33:26] Tetsuo : that´s what´s goin to happen to ETH
[2016-11-04 23:33:35] Tetsuo : walkin the way of laserdiscs
[2016-11-04 23:37:15] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1NLcyenoOg this would fit good into the "blood simple" OST
[2016-11-04 23:45:30] rapidtrades : 0.3....rly ppl
[2016-11-04 23:45:45] rapidtrades : selling the one true coin that cheap?
[2016-11-04 23:48:10] QuantFocus : RIP @rapidtrades
[2016-11-04 23:49:26] martinium : rapidtrades: you still long zec?
[2016-11-04 23:52:01] Tetsuo : If China bans BTC. LTC users won´t be affected!
[2016-11-04 23:52:20] rapidtrades : martinium: no i shorted at 3 and bailed at 0.3
[2016-11-04 23:52:25] rapidtrades : ofc im still in
[2016-11-04 23:52:30] rapidtrades : already 90% down
[2016-11-04 23:52:32] martinium : :)
[2016-11-04 23:52:43] kryptopojken : brutal :/
[2016-11-04 23:52:53] Tetsuo : I think my chickuns are slowly startin to diverge from the fat old whore aka BTC
[2016-11-05 00:13:44] Tetsuo : LTC Futures trading volume in here have reached an ATH
[2016-11-05 00:14:55] martinium : still barely any
[2016-11-05 00:15:01] martinium : 3btc is like nothing
[2016-11-05 00:15:05] martinium : ltc going to die off soon
[2016-11-05 00:15:35] mjones : lol ltc
[2016-11-05 00:15:40] Tetsuo : don´t be a johnny come lately, be an early investor , let those chickuns fly. After BTC gets finally banned in China LTC will go to 200$
[2016-11-05 00:15:50] mjones : only china ltc whales
[2016-11-05 00:16:07] mjones : barely any volume on the other exchanges. centralized shit no one wants
[2016-11-05 00:16:32] mjones : barely getting by on the back of BTC still
[2016-11-05 00:16:45] Tetsuo : mjones: it´s all part of the plan
[2016-11-05 00:18:28] Tetsuo : China will never support japanese technology. LTC might be the new world reserve currency. Along with it´s smart contracts buddy ETC
[2016-11-05 00:19:30] rapidtrades : and ZEC to anonymize ur transactions
[2016-11-05 00:19:33] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/3v9a7n/in_china_litecoin_is_not_an_altcoin/
[2016-11-05 00:21:17] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: and of course ZEC altough i think of 2000$ might have not been the best entry
[2016-11-05 00:24:30] rapidtrades : or...if was the perfect entry!
[2016-11-05 00:25:04] Tetsuo : wow, another ATH for LTC futures volume in here. Shit is about to get wild
[2016-11-05 00:25:18] javierstone : u were saying that about etc earlier
[2016-11-05 00:25:34] Tetsuo : javierstone: do uven chart?
[2016-11-05 00:26:01] Tetsuo : ETC was a top notch buy when i posted it, and it still is
[2016-11-05 00:26:19] javierstone : ??
[2016-11-05 00:27:03] Tetsuo : 100% of the LTC volume is on me though....
[2016-11-05 00:29:27] Tetsuo : knockknock
[2016-11-05 00:29:44] Tetsuo : whos´there
[2016-11-05 00:29:47] Tetsuo : it´s that time when you drink whiskey out of red wine glasse
[2016-11-05 00:29:52] javierstone : lol
[2016-11-05 00:29:53] Tetsuo : damsnnnnnnnn
[2016-11-05 00:30:03] martinium : CNY looking like retest of 4500
[2016-11-05 00:30:12] javierstone : if you didn't setup your own joke it wouldn't have been as good but the setup made it A+
[2016-11-05 00:30:26] javierstone : medium is the message bruh