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[2016-11-03 22:29:18] john1243 : wurstgelee: what happened to bitcoin bullmarket?
[2016-11-03 22:29:32] wurstgelee : it prob died today
[2016-11-03 22:29:55] john1243 : wurstgelee: I was shorting at 744 and you were telling me it was risky lol
[2016-11-03 22:30:04] wurstgelee : it was
[2016-11-03 22:30:37] john1243 : look at 1 day chart lol
[2016-11-03 22:30:49] wurstgelee : yeah captain hindsight...
[2016-11-03 22:30:55] wurstgelee : doesnt change the fact it was risky
[2016-11-03 22:31:23] wurstgelee : i didnt say: no way u will be right, did i?
[2016-11-03 22:32:20] wurstgelee : dumping btw...in case noone noticefd
[2016-11-03 22:32:21] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 22:32:28] shiroe : 3500 confirmed.
[2016-11-03 22:32:33] shiroe : 4500 i mean. haha
[2016-11-03 22:32:40] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-03 22:32:46] Rekted : shiroe: may be less
[2016-11-03 22:33:14] CaptainDean : we didn't broke the last resistance (4586)
[2016-11-03 22:33:40] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: !
[2016-11-03 22:36:26] doc1 : yeah double bottom is in
[2016-11-03 22:37:11] CaptainDean : doc1: I wouldn't be surprise we broke it
[2016-11-03 22:39:13] john1243 : gonna be a nice rally from here
[2016-11-03 22:44:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 684.51
[2016-11-03 22:44:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 34000 @ 682.80 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 22:45:22] numero : john1243: you seem to be making the worst calls ;)
[2016-11-03 22:45:41] CaptainDean : we survive the resistance again
[2016-11-03 22:45:43] john1243 : I don't think so
[2016-11-03 22:45:50] CaptainDean : 4591
[2016-11-03 22:46:05] y1uy : btc to 640-670
[2016-11-03 22:46:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 681.51
[2016-11-03 22:46:48] CaptainDean : broken
[2016-11-03 22:46:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 26000 @ 679.88 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 22:47:02] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2980 @ 675.70
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 675.73 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 675.15
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 37550 @ 678.04 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 49110 @ 675.00 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9950 @ 675.08
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 677.05
[2016-11-03 22:47:22] mjones : mega lag again
[2016-11-03 22:47:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 674.77
[2016-11-03 22:47:29] wurstgelee : thats why
[2016-11-03 22:47:31] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 22:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8446 @ 673.85
[2016-11-03 22:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 45024 @ 673.63 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 22:47:44] y1uy : 66
[2016-11-03 22:47:46] y1uy : 666
[2016-11-03 22:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 671.64
[2016-11-03 22:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 671.35
[2016-11-03 22:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 672.18
[2016-11-03 22:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 45 @ 672.47
[2016-11-03 22:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 900 @ 671.99
[2016-11-03 22:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 671.88
[2016-11-03 22:47:53] y1uy : them fuckers :D
[2016-11-03 22:48:18] Shaman : cant submit contracts :(
[2016-11-03 22:48:19] john1243 : fuck
[2016-11-03 22:48:26] y1uy : guys i am nostradamus here
[2016-11-03 22:48:31] wurstgelee : lols
[2016-11-03 22:48:35] wurstgelee : order submission error...
[2016-11-03 22:48:36] habibi : ffs fix that site please bitmex, unable to get trade
[2016-11-03 22:48:37] wurstgelee : socket timeout
[2016-11-03 22:48:38] wurstgelee : WTF
[2016-11-03 22:48:40] Cryptlex : is someone ddos the server?
[2016-11-03 22:48:42] Shaman : holy crap
[2016-11-03 22:48:47] mjones : 4400 cny soon
[2016-11-03 22:48:47] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-03 22:49:02] blacktuesday : bitmex broken
[2016-11-03 22:49:11] Rekted : too many rekt
[2016-11-03 22:49:12] j8 : lagMEX
[2016-11-03 22:49:13] wurstgelee : guys..seriously....
[2016-11-03 22:49:14] mjones : dont refresh
[2016-11-03 22:49:40] y1uy : works fine for me
[2016-11-03 22:49:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 24 @ 0.003041
[2016-11-03 22:49:55] Rekted : have a good rekt time guys
[2016-11-03 22:49:56] habibi : y1uy: u have no btc here, stfu
[2016-11-03 22:50:04] y1uy : habibi: what?
[2016-11-03 22:50:09] wurstgelee : habibi: :D :D :D
[2016-11-03 22:50:13] habibi : ffs so many trade options are going away coz of that lags
[2016-11-03 22:50:21] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-03 22:50:26] y1uy : habibi: bitmex bad cdn servers
[2016-11-03 22:50:31] wurstgelee : knife catching basically imposible
[2016-11-03 22:50:34] wurstgelee : *s
[2016-11-03 22:50:42] y1uy : wurstgelee: thats why u set up buy orders before
[2016-11-03 22:50:47] habibi : y1uy: on ur ass
[2016-11-03 22:50:48] wurstgelee : lol whut?
[2016-11-03 22:50:49] mjones : time to rekt every long there is thinking this was going up forever
[2016-11-03 22:51:16] wurstgelee : set buy orders in anticipation of dump....
[2016-11-03 22:51:19] wurstgelee : ofc....
[2016-11-03 22:51:29] wurstgelee : today
[2016-11-03 22:51:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 674.41
[2016-11-03 22:52:08] y1uy : yeah whats wrong with that
[2016-11-03 22:52:15] y1uy : thats how u trade
[2016-11-03 22:52:22] mjones : short rekt
[2016-11-03 22:52:25] lopol : how can you fail so much to get liquidated for short today
[2016-11-03 22:52:27] wurstgelee : maybe thats how u trade...
[2016-11-03 22:52:33] mjones : i should have went 100x long on that dip
[2016-11-03 22:52:42] wurstgelee : i tried
[2016-11-03 22:52:44] wurstgelee : desperately
[2016-11-03 22:52:47] habibi : y1uy: ffs i am already tired with u, waiting till u will go away coz of rekt
[2016-11-03 22:52:49] wurstgelee : bitmex didnt let me
[2016-11-03 22:52:51] mjones : there was that big ass sell wall at 663
[2016-11-03 22:52:55] mjones : a gift from the heaven
[2016-11-03 22:52:58] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-03 22:53:14] wurstgelee : got socker timeout error notice...
[2016-11-03 22:53:16] wurstgelee : socket
[2016-11-03 22:53:18] mjones : 100x that you'd be up 200% right now
[2016-11-03 22:53:31] burno : i got some of that 663 heaven, bt just a tiny position
[2016-11-03 22:53:31] y1uy : http://i.imgur.com/T2jSxkp.png
[2016-11-03 22:53:58] Cryptlex : like a boss
[2016-11-03 22:54:07] y1uy : habibi: i bet your long on btc got rekt
[2016-11-03 22:54:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12229 @ 678.61
[2016-11-03 22:54:27] habibi : y1uy: see, i am diffrent, i can be asshole for u and at same time making money
[2016-11-03 22:54:44] y1uy : habibi: ok habibi
[2016-11-03 22:54:47] jeeburns : bots going awol
[2016-11-03 22:54:49] y1uy : habibi: yalla akbar
[2016-11-03 22:55:26] y1uy : guys dont long at these priecs
[2016-11-03 22:55:38] y1uy : 640-650 is a good place to long..
[2016-11-03 22:55:43] wurstgelee : 663 heaven soon to be hell? ;)
[2016-11-03 22:55:46] wurstgelee : or not
[2016-11-03 22:55:57] habibi : y1uy: don't give advices until u earn first bitcoin
[2016-11-03 22:56:09] y1uy : habibi: love u too
[2016-11-03 22:56:13] habibi : then start rekting people as a expert! :)
[2016-11-03 22:56:17] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-03 22:56:29] y1uy : this guy is so pissed he got rekt
[2016-11-03 22:56:42] burno : wurstgelee: i have already sold
[2016-11-03 22:56:51] y1uy : habibi: i called the dips, u didnt call shit
[2016-11-03 22:56:55] wurstgelee : good job
[2016-11-03 22:57:04] habibi : y1uy: u don't want to meet me after rekt, way worse sunny
[2016-11-03 22:57:06] burno : but y'all get a chance at some rekt coins, this is not going to stop appartently
[2016-11-03 22:57:48] habibi : y1uy: call next thing, with exact timeline and price within 2-3$ dollars targets and i will send u 1 btc if u will be right, if wrong u will just stfu :)
[2016-11-03 22:57:55] fsec : I'm setting my buy order @625 and going to bed :D
[2016-11-03 22:58:23] y1uy : habibi: ok, u will see bitcoin will dip to 640-650 and maybe consolidate, if im right u can send me .1 btc
[2016-11-03 22:58:40] wurstgelee : thats a $10 range...
[2016-11-03 22:58:41] habibi : y1uy: i told u my terms, please try to read it more carefully
[2016-11-03 22:58:48] wurstgelee : also no timeline
[2016-11-03 22:59:05] numero : y1uy: who is that picture of?
[2016-11-03 22:59:25] y1uy : numero: thats bitcoin market maker
[2016-11-03 23:00:07] TwinnerD : how many bars do you long guys have?
[2016-11-03 23:00:18] mjones : i actually refreshed. what happen to the +10 and +100 when opening contracts?
[2016-11-03 23:00:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 672.94
[2016-11-03 23:01:33] lopol : are china news real?
[2016-11-03 23:01:44] numero : I'm thinking, Tetsuo must have a full spectrum of accounts . . . I wonder how he keeps track of them all
[2016-11-03 23:01:51] y1uy : lopol: no
[2016-11-03 23:08:41] habibi : 23:55 - y1uy: guys dont long at these priecs hope noone listened to him
[2016-11-03 23:15:26] QuantFocus : err'body ded?
[2016-11-03 23:15:33] QuantFocus : or just too pissed off
[2016-11-03 23:16:20] habibi : they follow y1uy advices
[2016-11-03 23:16:22] habibi : let them die
[2016-11-03 23:16:52] TwinnerD : QuantFocus: didn't you hear? BTC is dead. all went home
[2016-11-03 23:16:55] TwinnerD : only bots left
[2016-11-03 23:16:59] TwinnerD : they didn't get the memo
[2016-11-03 23:17:46] mjones : my only wish is that i would have went 100x long
[2016-11-03 23:17:46] muirtastic : I wonder what the long/short funding fees will adjust to in 5 hrs.
[2016-11-03 23:18:50] numero : habibi: what would you suggest?
[2016-11-03 23:19:09] lockhedge : muirtastic: Predicted Funding Rate 0.0270% in 13 hours (hoover with your mouse over the current funding rate)
[2016-11-03 23:19:11] habibi : numero: i don't give advices here, just trade my own.
[2016-11-03 23:20:15] numero : habibi: what indicators do you use for your own trades?
[2016-11-03 23:20:38] sleger : numero: he uses rapid contra indicator
[2016-11-03 23:21:09] habibi : numero: volume for altcoins, for bitcoin trying only to catch buy on panic selling/sell on fomo
[2016-11-03 23:21:14] muirtastic : lockhedge: hover it where? I can't get it to work
[2016-11-03 23:21:31] numero : sleger: is that a troll thing?
[2016-11-03 23:22:17] lockhedge : muirtastic: where it says "Funding Rate0.0484% in 5 hours" in the left side bar
[2016-11-03 23:23:43] muirtastic : lockhedge: awesome..thank you rule
[2016-11-03 23:23:55] muirtastic : thanks, you rule. I didn't even see that over there
[2016-11-03 23:25:28] lockhedge : muirtastic: just keep in mind, this is only a prediction based on the average rates since last funding, so it will adjust within the next 5 hours.
[2016-11-03 23:26:57] muirtastic : lockhedge: Yes I realize that it could change dramatically with market conditions but at least it's some useful data for what it is
[2016-11-03 23:33:52] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: getting "You have been initiating too many requests." from the front-end proxy. what's the limit on that?
[2016-11-03 23:35:23] BitMEX_Greg : miramm1115: Sam is away at the moment. I need to check on this
[2016-11-03 23:35:55] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Greg: no problem, I'll send an email
[2016-11-03 23:36:06] BitMEX_Greg : Thanks, will send it to Sam to answer when he is online
[2016-11-03 23:40:01] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/whalecalls/status/794323112053641216
[2016-11-03 23:40:04] wurstgelee : thats some...
[2016-11-03 23:41:43] TwinnerD : 1 contract = 1 BTC there?
[2016-11-03 23:43:13] BitMEX_Greg : 1 contract = $100 I think
[2016-11-03 23:44:07] Chumba : Hi
[2016-11-03 23:44:28] Chumba : How do I trade
[2016-11-03 23:45:27] habibi : i have no energy left to be asshole anymore, sleger maybe u will help ^^
[2016-11-03 23:47:30] mjones : what happened to the +10 and +100 buttons?
[2016-11-03 23:48:44] sleger : Chumba: ChumbaChumba
[2016-11-03 23:51:49] wurstgelee : mjones: 3 btc each
[2016-11-03 23:53:09] Chumba : slegersleger
[2016-11-03 23:54:35] sleger : hey I taught the monkey something
[2016-11-03 23:54:36] Chumba : What do the different colors mean
[2016-11-03 23:54:52] sleger : green is admin
[2016-11-03 23:55:35] Chumba : what about my color
[2016-11-03 23:56:17] wurstgelee : piss with a hint of kiwi i'd say
[2016-11-03 23:56:56] Chumba : I want to buy ZEC, what is the easiest way to do it
[2016-11-03 23:57:02] wurstgelee : press buy
[2016-11-03 23:58:11] sleger : his color: diarrhea, very liquid
[2016-11-03 23:58:24] kradiav : Chumba: start a fire and throw your money their, same result
[2016-11-03 23:58:55] wurstgelee : or give it to me
[2016-11-03 23:58:58] ZeroCrash : kradiav: Exactly
[2016-11-03 23:58:59] wurstgelee : same result
[2016-11-03 23:59:00] Chumba : there*
[2016-11-03 23:59:13] Tetsuo : whis
[2016-11-03 23:59:19] wurstgelee : whis what?
[2016-11-03 23:59:20] ZeroCrash : You buy ZeroCash... and that's exactly what you'll have...ZERO CASH
[2016-11-03 23:59:42] pigeons : wakawaka
[2016-11-04 00:00:08] wurstgelee : oh look, pigeons!
[2016-11-04 00:00:27] ZeroCrash : I'd short the hell out of ZEC... but Bitmex doesn't accept deposits from the States >.<
[2016-11-04 00:00:40] wurstgelee : id buy all your shorts
[2016-11-04 00:01:05] ZeroCrash : Lol, It's already shorted down to .5 So, you're not really buying the shorts, now Are you?
[2016-11-04 00:01:19] wurstgelee : i have been seens its been listed here
[2016-11-04 00:01:42] wurstgelee : ~1 month before launch or sth
[2016-11-04 00:01:46] wurstgelee : +7-
[2016-11-04 00:01:50] wurstgelee : +/-
[2016-11-04 00:02:11] wurstgelee : wtf. i have been seens?
[2016-11-04 00:02:15] ZeroCrash : Well... Guess you'll Have Zero cash when you close them out ;)
[2016-11-04 00:02:24] wurstgelee : that was supposed to be i have been doing that
[2016-11-04 00:02:34] wurstgelee : i guess you are wrong
[2016-11-04 00:02:36] wurstgelee : by far
[2016-11-04 00:02:50] Chumba : ZeroCrash are you an admin too
[2016-11-04 00:03:13] ZeroCrash : Chumba: Why do you ask?
[2016-11-04 00:03:16] sleger : yes he is
[2016-11-04 00:03:19] wurstgelee : Chumba: admins have BitMEX in front of their nick
[2016-11-04 00:03:24] jan : hi liquidation order is at market price or price on bitmex?
[2016-11-04 00:03:26] sleger : wurstgelee: you suck
[2016-11-04 00:03:26] Chumba : more green that sleger
[2016-11-04 00:03:27] wurstgelee : lol come on...
[2016-11-04 00:03:29] wurstgelee : thats mean
[2016-11-04 00:03:31] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-04 00:03:45] BitMEX_Greg : jan: Hi, liquidations are done at Mark Price
[2016-11-04 00:03:51] wurstgelee : he didnt do anything to deserve that yet ;)
[2016-11-04 00:06:16] jan : thx So market price is average bitmex and bitstamp? @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-11-04 00:06:57] BitMEX_Greg : jan: well the Index Price is 50/50 Stamp and O..KCoin USD
[2016-11-04 00:07:15] BitMEX_Greg : The Mark Price is then a combination of that and the current premium levels
[2016-11-04 00:07:33] BitMEX_Greg : Right now the Index Price is 685.70 and the Mark Price is 685.86
[2016-11-04 00:07:59] BitMEX_Greg : you can take a look on top of the orderbook (hover over the numbers), or on the left side of the screen under "Contract Details: XBTUSD"
[2016-11-04 00:08:22] rapidtrades : some forex brokers already planning reduction of leverage on election day
[2016-11-04 00:08:43] rapidtrades : ridiculous, leverage is there except when u need it most
[2016-11-04 00:09:18] wurstgelee : election day will be interesting
[2016-11-04 00:09:26] wurstgelee : if trump wins
[2016-11-04 00:09:31] wurstgelee : otherwise nothing happens
[2016-11-04 00:09:36] jan : thx I see @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-11-04 00:09:36] wurstgelee : or not as much
[2016-11-04 00:10:32] Shaman : What if hillary wins and is indicted on the same day?
[2016-11-04 00:10:54] rapidtrades : oh shit
[2016-11-04 00:11:26] rapidtrades : 'We're safe BUY BUY BUY....we're dead'
[2016-11-04 00:11:30] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: some banks are getting traders in overnight too
[2016-11-04 00:12:46] ZeroCrash : wurstgelee: I'm waiting for Obama to evoke a national emergency under Exective order 13606 (The number might be wrong)
[2016-11-04 00:12:57] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: traders in overnight to...purchase btc?
[2016-11-04 00:13:05] wurstgelee : oh wtf....
[2016-11-04 00:13:10] wurstgelee : socket timeouts again
[2016-11-04 00:13:13] wurstgelee : ANNOYING
[2016-11-04 00:13:32] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-11-04 00:13:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30000 @ 684.27 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-04 00:13:34] wurstgelee : there werent even liquidations...
[2016-11-04 00:13:43] wurstgelee : and its lagging af
[2016-11-04 00:13:55] ZeroCrash : 13603 is the correct number
[2016-11-04 00:13:59] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: FX and commodity markets
[2016-11-04 00:14:20] lockhedge : seems like we have a reliable liquidations indicator now
[2016-11-04 00:14:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 682.54
[2016-11-04 00:15:10] wurstgelee : to dive or not to dive
[2016-11-04 00:15:19] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Greg: could you please add sorting to the active orders. want to sort them by price
[2016-11-04 00:15:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6666 @ 681.77
[2016-11-04 00:16:16] QuantFocus : we might be hitting 650 boys
[2016-11-04 00:16:28] BitMEX_Greg : TwinnerD: WIll bring it up to Sam
[2016-11-04 00:17:14] rapidtrades : why does the cost of margin vary so much when I enter different entry prices...example at 650 it's 4x as much as at 680
[2016-11-04 00:17:39] rapidtrades : the cost number u see right below buy/sell buttons
[2016-11-04 00:18:51] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: I think you need to multiply it out into USD
[2016-11-04 00:18:55] rapidtrades : 650-680 is only 4% yes u see a difference of 4x in margin cost
[2016-11-04 00:19:22] rapidtrades : it seems wildly innaccurate the further u go from current prices
[2016-11-04 00:19:23] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: Are you doing a short?
[2016-11-04 00:19:29] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-11-04 00:19:46] BitMEX_Greg : Right, so you need to fully fund if you are selling below the Impact Bid price
[2016-11-04 00:19:54] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: dangerous time to short, no?
[2016-11-04 00:20:05] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: what does fully fund mean
[2016-11-04 00:20:11] BitMEX_Greg : leverage = 1
[2016-11-04 00:20:17] rapidtrades : weird
[2016-11-04 00:20:23] tb : it makes sense
[2016-11-04 00:20:28] tb : otherwise you may get margin called immediately
[2016-11-04 00:20:33] BitMEX_Greg : Right
[2016-11-04 00:20:35] BitMEX_Wally : tb: Correct
[2016-11-04 00:20:38] rapidtrades : ah i think i see
[2016-11-04 00:20:56] rapidtrades : so it shows my loss from 650>680 in the total?
[2016-11-04 00:21:02] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Basically
[2016-11-04 00:21:15] rapidtrades : ok tnx...it was bothering me
[2016-11-04 00:22:05] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: if I'm on cross the margin cost is 100/1 right?
[2016-11-04 00:22:59] BitMEX_Wally : 1/100 i.e. 1% yes, plus funding rate and taker fee etc
[2016-11-04 00:23:12] rapidtrades : got it thanks
[2016-11-04 00:24:10] tb : im still confused about position reducing orders in the depth causing risk limit to go up
[2016-11-04 00:24:24] sleger : I'm sad, will never get paid that Predicted Funding Rate -2.3183% on lisk :(
[2016-11-04 00:24:37] CaptainDean : lift off
[2016-11-04 00:24:57] rapidtrades : sleger: why
[2016-11-04 00:25:07] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: did you get your short in?
[2016-11-04 00:25:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 8 @ 688.78
[2016-11-04 00:25:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15005 @ 688.67
[2016-11-04 00:25:13] sleger : swap's leaving us
[2016-11-04 00:25:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 690.34
[2016-11-04 00:25:26] mjones : pump btc
[2016-11-04 00:25:28] BitMEX_Wally : We are replacing the altcoin swaps with futures
[2016-11-04 00:25:37] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: not yet, was just planning it out to see if I have enough funds
[2016-11-04 00:25:47] BitMEX_Wally : tb: What is your question regarding?
[2016-11-04 00:25:49] BitMEX_Greg : luck
[2016-11-04 00:25:53] BitMEX_Greg : lucky*
[2016-11-04 00:26:51] tb : BitMEX_Wally: say i have a short position of x and i place a bid in the depth to close the position
[2016-11-04 00:26:56] tb : why does that increase my risk limit
[2016-11-04 00:27:13] wurstgelee : nice rebound
[2016-11-04 00:27:18] wurstgelee : gogogo ;)
[2016-11-04 00:27:20] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: whats the reason for this?
[2016-11-04 00:28:03] BitMEX_Wally : TwinnerD: Risk Limit is set manually by you, orders do not change it
[2016-11-04 00:28:07] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: another q....due to my ZEC entry at 3, it's costing me 1.5 btc per contract but the max I can lose from here if 0.6 BTC even if it goes to 0....essentially locking up 1 BTC in margin for nothing
[2016-11-04 00:28:25] rapidtrades : is there a way to fix this or is this how it's suppose to work
[2016-11-04 00:28:27] BitMEX_Wally : Orders and positions are summed to give your Risk Value if this is what you mean?
[2016-11-04 00:28:52] tb : sure, but shouldn't positions that offset your order not increase your risk limit?
[2016-11-04 00:29:01] tb : so like if im short 100 contracts placing a sell would increase it
[2016-11-04 00:29:12] tb : but placing a buy up to 200 would not?
[2016-11-04 00:29:43] BitMEX_Wally : No, if you are short 100 contracts then placing a sell would increase your Risk Value. It would not change the limit, that is set manually by you
[2016-11-04 00:30:02] tb : sorry substitute risk limit for risk value
[2016-11-04 00:30:14] tb : or position size
[2016-11-04 00:30:28] tb : here's the hypothetical scenario
[2016-11-04 00:30:30] BitMEX_Wally : If you are short 100 XBT then your risk value is 100 XBT. If you then place a bid to buy back 100 XBT your risk value is still 100 XBT because we net them
[2016-11-04 00:30:55] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: did u dive in :)
[2016-11-04 00:31:12] wurstgelee : nah, fomo longed some
[2016-11-04 00:31:39] tb : BitMEX_Wally: can you look at my account?
[2016-11-04 00:31:46] BitMEX_Wally : tb: Sure
[2016-11-04 00:31:54] tb : BitMEX_Wally: I don't think my risk values for xbtusd are netted
[2016-11-04 00:32:29] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: how's the mining experiment going?
[2016-11-04 00:32:37] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: no mining
[2016-11-04 00:32:52] wurstgelee : holding my remaining longs well in profit, waiting for adl ;)
[2016-11-04 00:34:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50001 @ 694.13 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-04 00:34:41] bernx : free money cut todat
[2016-11-04 00:36:26] BitMEX_Wally : tb: You have open orders that far exceed your position. So basically your risk value is the value of your open orders
[2016-11-04 00:36:45] tb : why is that though, shouldn't they be netted?
[2016-11-04 00:36:56] tb : market moves up and i get rekt, my orders get pulled
[2016-11-04 00:37:18] tb : market moves down and hits my orders, my position can only increase by the net of my open position and orders
[2016-11-04 00:37:33] BitMEX_Wally : tb: If I am long 100 XBT and have a sell order for 100 XBT this is not netted to a 0 risk value
[2016-11-04 00:37:46] tb : i agree
[2016-11-04 00:37:55] BitMEX_Wally : The long position is netted against the sell orders so your risk value is treated as 100 XBT plus 0
[2016-11-04 00:38:45] BitMEX_Wally : In your case you have qty of -188 and open orders to buy of 400 so after netting these are open orders of 212, so your risk value is 188 + 212 = 400
[2016-11-04 00:39:11] BitMEX_Wally : (in qty terms)
[2016-11-04 00:39:37] tb : wouldn't doing something like min(open position, net(offsetting orders, open position + non-offsetting orders))
[2016-11-04 00:40:07] rapidtrades : btc so volatile, pick a calmer coin like ZEC
[2016-11-04 00:40:12] john1243 : god damnit
[2016-11-04 00:40:33] sleger : tuberculosis: he is right
[2016-11-04 00:40:43] john1243 : liquidated cause I went too hard margin and it hit my target
[2016-11-04 00:40:49] tb : but wally, my risk value is not 400
[2016-11-04 00:40:51] john1243 : smh
[2016-11-04 00:40:55] tb : it is around 600
[2016-11-04 00:41:01] tb : i agree it should be around 400
[2016-11-04 00:41:09] tb : that's why i asked my question
[2016-11-04 00:41:17] Tetsuo : 500 would be fine too
[2016-11-04 00:41:27] tb : i have to pay 4% more to insurance fund if i get liquidated
[2016-11-04 00:41:30] sleger : john1243: that's to be expected, when you cant count to four
[2016-11-04 00:41:52] wurstgelee : btc is a funny guy today
[2016-11-04 00:41:56] john1243 : sleger: genly carrress you
[2016-11-04 00:41:59] wurstgelee : great humour
[2016-11-04 00:42:04] QuantFocus : dang
[2016-11-04 00:42:04] rapidtrades : i can't figure out who's the bigger ahole..
[2016-11-04 00:42:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 697.50
[2016-11-04 00:42:09] rapidtrades : sleger or sledger
[2016-11-04 00:42:11] QuantFocus : getting violent in here
[2016-11-04 00:42:18] wurstgelee : butthurt
[2016-11-04 00:42:20] QuantFocus : quite hostile
[2016-11-04 00:42:38] john1243 : yeah I'm butthurt
[2016-11-04 00:42:51] Chumba : 1 2 3 4
[2016-11-04 00:42:56] l3f : choo choo
[2016-11-04 00:42:57] sleger : even the monkey gets it
[2016-11-04 00:43:03] sleger : good chumba, good
[2016-11-04 00:43:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5200 @ 699.18
[2016-11-04 00:43:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 193 @ 0.01555
[2016-11-04 00:43:14] muirtastic : nice bounce..670 to 699 on stamp
[2016-11-04 00:43:17] BitMEX_Wally : tb: riskValue is defined as (abs markValue)+grossOpenCost where grossOpenCost is what we use to calculate initMargin (i.e. it is already netted against position). I understand you have a position of -188 and orders to flip it to +212 so only want a risk value of 212 but we are conservative so it is 400
[2016-11-04 00:43:37] Tetsuo : sleger: lol, i appreciate the work you´re doin here
[2016-11-04 00:44:34] wurstgelee : yeah, he is on fire today
[2016-11-04 00:45:18] TwinnerD : I am too scared to go to sleep
[2016-11-04 00:45:53] Chumba : I used to be scared of the boogeyman too
[2016-11-04 00:46:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.006271
[2016-11-04 00:46:03] tb : understood
[2016-11-04 00:46:35] tb : it just doesn't seem like its someplace where being more conservative changes anything for you guys on the risk side
[2016-11-04 00:47:01] Tetsuo : TwinnerD: do it, china will just try to zigzag rekt every margin noob in the the next hours
[2016-11-04 00:47:34] rapidtrades : china is crazy right now...could go either way
[2016-11-04 00:47:38] tb : a user has to double the risk value of their position in order to flip it with a limit order
[2016-11-04 00:47:51] TwinnerD : not scared of being rekt. Just don't want to miss out on juicy dumps
[2016-11-04 00:48:27] CaptainDean : Yeah we jusssttt missed two previous top, it might go down :P
[2016-11-04 00:48:58] BitMEX_Wally : tb: I'll look into it and see if we can change the calculation
[2016-11-04 00:49:08] tb : i think something like
[2016-11-04 00:49:26] blacktuesday : who's buying 119 zec?
[2016-11-04 00:49:38] blacktuesday : thats a big order
[2016-11-04 00:49:50] Tetsuo : rapid your rescure arrived
[2016-11-04 00:49:55] tb : abs(mark value) + open cost for orders to increase position - open cost for orders to decrease position
[2016-11-04 00:50:12] tb : would work and wouldn't increase risk for you guys
[2016-11-04 00:50:28] tb : then i guess the issue is people will complain cancelling orders will increase their risk value lol
[2016-11-04 00:51:18] tb : my above calculation doesn't work
[2016-11-04 00:51:46] tb : yeah its not a straightforward one
[2016-11-04 00:52:05] sleger : tb: yes it is
[2016-11-04 00:52:16] sleger : let's see if @Chumba can figure it out
[2016-11-04 00:52:47] tb : you cant really offset working orders
[2016-11-04 00:52:49] BitMEX_Wally : tb: It's complicated by the fact we use markPrice for the position, but the limit price for the orders
[2016-11-04 00:53:17] tb : but i hope you understand its a pain point for me
[2016-11-04 00:53:20] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: prolly part of Operation Marco Polo
[2016-11-04 00:53:24] tb : because i have to double my risk value to flip position
[2016-11-04 00:53:27] BitMEX_Wally : non working orders are not even counted anyway. only those active in the order book
[2016-11-04 00:53:44] BitMEX_Wally : tb: I've raised an issue we'll look into the mathematics
[2016-11-04 00:53:48] tb : ok thanks
[2016-11-04 00:55:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 18 @ 697.75
[2016-11-04 00:58:04] public username 321 : blacktuesday: that zec-order really isn't big. That's two hours of mining right now.
[2016-11-04 00:58:14] public username 321 : and it's gone
[2016-11-04 00:58:30] blacktuesday : 2 hours of mining on what? lol
[2016-11-04 00:58:36] blacktuesday : how many GPU's?
[2016-11-04 00:58:42] public username 321 : blacktuesday: the entire network
[2016-11-04 00:58:46] blacktuesday : oh lmao
[2016-11-04 00:58:52] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-04 00:58:53] blacktuesday : i consider that big order
[2016-11-04 00:59:00] blacktuesday : its back
[2016-11-04 00:59:06] blacktuesday : 150 at 0.56 now
[2016-11-04 00:59:32] blacktuesday : someone wants in
[2016-11-04 00:59:38] rapidtrades : shorts have nothing to fear but fear itself
[2016-11-04 01:00:19] public username 321 : blacktuesday: it's really not that big if you think about it
[2016-11-04 01:00:39] Tetsuo : is it big?
[2016-11-04 01:00:52] rapidtrades : ofc its big....don't only 10% of mined ZEC go to polo? and that's the biggest exchange
[2016-11-04 01:01:05] Tetsuo : no biggy
[2016-11-04 01:01:24] rapidtrades : yeah just a day's worth of mining for the entire network
[2016-11-04 01:01:42] Tetsuo : that seems big
[2016-11-04 01:01:50] rapidtrades : i mean a day's supply on polo
[2016-11-04 01:02:48] public username 321 : btc network costs 150 btc in 2 hours - zec network costs almost the same at the price of polo in the same time
[2016-11-04 01:03:06] Tetsuo : what should ppl do? buy before we reach the new upper limi? aka 100 BTC?
[2016-11-04 01:03:14] public username 321 : Soon zec network will be more expensive than btc network - even on this tiny marketcap
[2016-11-04 01:03:25] rapidtrades : that seems like the only smart choice right now @Tetsuo
[2016-11-04 01:03:39] rapidtrades : like I literally can't think of anything else to do
[2016-11-04 01:03:57] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: or short with a liq above 100?
[2016-11-04 01:04:07] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-04 01:08:29] Chumba : good time to buy ZEC
[2016-11-04 01:09:46] Tetsuo : www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/breaking-news-wikileaks-email-dump-hillary-and-goldman-behind-zec
[2016-11-04 01:10:26] Tetsuo : clash of the titans as trump supports BTC
[2016-11-04 01:11:46] Tetsuo : BTC/BTC will go above 1 if trump wins
[2016-11-04 01:12:06] BitMEX_Greg : then buy now while it's cheap eh?
[2016-11-04 01:12:14] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Greg: smart money
[2016-11-04 01:15:01] rapidtrades : is XBTZ16 considered stable right now?
[2016-11-04 01:15:41] BitMEX_Greg : in what respect?
[2016-11-04 01:16:00] messiaen8844 : if you buy it it will crash, leave it alone
[2016-11-04 01:16:41] rapidtrades : in terms of following price, ppl have been reporting lot of spiks on non-swap BTC @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-11-04 01:16:52] rapidtrades : spikes
[2016-11-04 01:17:04] BitMEX_Greg : I think it may just be the basis blowing out from fomo longs
[2016-11-04 01:17:32] BitMEX_Greg : the lead MM is still there
[2016-11-04 01:18:09] rapidtrades : ppl are no longer fomoing the swap....maybe time to transition over there
[2016-11-04 01:18:17] rapidtrades : $35 premium is still farily high
[2016-11-04 01:18:44] rapidtrades : ah its $22...must've seen it wrong
[2016-11-04 01:19:02] sleger : that or you cant substract
[2016-11-04 01:19:06] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah kind of cheap
[2016-11-04 01:19:46] Chumba : 720 - 698 = 22
[2016-11-04 01:20:56] sleger : Chumba good judgment chumba
[2016-11-04 01:21:17] rapidtrades : sleger: are u still net long BTC?
[2016-11-04 01:21:27] sleger : yes
[2016-11-04 01:23:04] Chumba : good time to buy ZEC and sell bitcoin
[2016-11-04 01:23:09] Chumba : china ban bad
[2016-11-04 01:27:19] sleger : Chumba: didn't you star in some space opera movies directed by G Lucas ?
[2016-11-04 01:28:02] javierstone : http://www.newsweek.com/major-broker-adds-bitcoin-its-books-516600?utm_content=buffer48b8b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[2016-11-04 01:28:53] Chumba : a klingon?
[2016-11-04 01:29:08] sleger : in a galazy far far away....
[2016-11-04 01:29:22] rapidtrades : Star Trek?
[2016-11-04 01:29:45] sleger : almost
[2016-11-04 01:29:48] jose : Trek Wars
[2016-11-04 01:30:05] sleger : jose: go back sweeping hallways
[2016-11-04 01:30:13] rapidtrades : Wars Among the Stars
[2016-11-04 01:30:31] sleger : yes, there was a character with a similar name
[2016-11-04 01:30:38] sleger : ChumbaK
[2016-11-04 01:31:24] Tetsuo : Charlton Heston? Planet of the Apes?
[2016-11-04 01:31:40] rapidtrades : that was Earth not in space
[2016-11-04 01:31:49] Tetsuo : true : - (
[2016-11-04 01:31:49] rapidtrades : sorry for the spoiler
[2016-11-04 01:33:55] Tetsuo : Charlton Heston: " U won´t get my precious BTC **from my cold dead hands**
[2016-11-04 01:35:02] rapidtrades : there was this guy that had a bitcoin QR code tattoed on his head
[2016-11-04 01:35:10] rapidtrades : what would be the point of that
[2016-11-04 01:35:26] Monty : sleger: this looks like u mate: http://juicygif.com/albums/userpics/2016y/04/29/16/1/small_0865-misssweeney-gorgeous-pinup-model-gulping-down-horse-cock.gif
[2016-11-04 01:35:31] rapidtrades : maybe it was a public key idk
[2016-11-04 01:35:42] Tetsuo : /ban monty
[2016-11-04 01:35:49] rapidtrades : he got paid to fix elections
[2016-11-04 01:36:04] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: ban Monty
[2016-11-04 01:36:09] rapidtrades : +3
[2016-11-04 01:36:42] BitMEX_Greg : haha, oh my
[2016-11-04 01:36:43] Monty : oooo touched a nerve did i?
[2016-11-04 01:37:39] rapidtrades : i believe that's an accurate representation of today's interaction between sleger and the JPY MM
[2016-11-04 01:39:15] Chumba : sleger aren't you admin?
[2016-11-04 01:40:06] sleger : yes but I left my admin key in my other jacket
[2016-11-04 01:40:39] Chumba : where can I get an admin key from
[2016-11-04 01:43:04] sleger : you have to pass an english test first
[2016-11-04 01:43:17] sleger : (you already failed)
[2016-11-04 01:44:37] Chumba : seems like i am half way there with my yellow green color
[2016-11-04 01:46:01] sleger : we like to give false hope around here, like you can actually make money trading, that ZEC might go back to 3 ...
[2016-11-04 01:46:48] Chumba : ZEC is 1.2 on polo exchange. that is easy trade
[2016-11-04 01:46:56] Chumba : double money
[2016-11-04 01:47:26] bernx : hard day
[2016-11-04 01:47:30] bernx : hate this news
[2016-11-04 01:47:42] rapidtrades : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/04/harvard-suspends-mens-football-team-over-lewd-sexual-comments/
[2016-11-04 01:47:55] rapidtrades : ^ look at that this
[2016-11-04 01:48:04] rapidtrades : i meant shit
[2016-11-04 01:49:45] jose : BitMEX_Greg: if i am long on ETHXBT when i settles, will i receive the funding ?
[2016-11-04 01:50:44] sleger : no
[2016-11-04 01:50:46] BitMEX_Greg : jose: There will be no funding for the last period just prior to settlement.
[2016-11-04 01:51:20] rapidtrades : so all altcoins will be fitures now?
[2016-11-04 01:51:42] BitMEX_Greg : Yes
[2016-11-04 01:51:48] BitMEX_Greg : and LISK will be delisted
[2016-11-04 01:51:56] sleger : RIP jung1
[2016-11-04 01:51:58] rapidtrades : oh no
[2016-11-04 01:54:46] BitMEX_Greg : jose: As in the period ending 12:00 UTC, there will be no funding
[2016-11-04 01:55:45] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.7514 (vs. yesterday at 6.7491)
[2016-11-04 01:55:50] rapidtrades : little change
[2016-11-04 01:59:15] rapidtrades : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-03/china-may-be-set-for-a-shock-fall-in-foreign-exchange-reserves
[2016-11-04 02:06:24] Cryptlex : How many decimal places is entry price calculated to?
[2016-11-04 02:08:02] Julian : Do you get paid or charged the Funding Rate percentage based on the Value of your position or based on the Margin. So if you go in 100x short on BTC right now with a value of 10BTC with a margin of 0.1 do you get 0.048% on the Value or the Margin?
[2016-11-04 02:08:31] rapidtrades : value