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[2016-11-03 18:52:58] numero : y1uy: no, the swings are freaking me out
[2016-11-03 18:53:02] Rado : so $680 hit
[2016-11-03 18:53:05] rapidtrades : my ZEC is already over-funded with 0 chance of margin call
[2016-11-03 18:53:28] CaptainDean : so BTC next step is 4410 ?
[2016-11-03 18:53:33] javierstone : just tap it in
[2016-11-03 18:53:34] javierstone : tap it in
[2016-11-03 18:53:42] habibi : MM i call u for a fight at rep market!
[2016-11-03 18:54:05] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: 1x long on ZEC has a 0 liquidation price. You do not need to overfund that, for shorts then yes I suggest to use cross margin and over fund it
[2016-11-03 18:54:17] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: contacting them
[2016-11-03 18:54:24] javierstone : bounce
[2016-11-03 18:54:45] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: the ADL on XBJ24, which is lastpriceprotected, how can it happen at 73975 ?
[2016-11-03 18:54:55] tb : if im short N contracts and place a bid for N contracts below the bid, why does that increase my risk limit? @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-11-03 18:54:56] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: just found out about a 400 error message that says `Bad Request OrderID length must be 36 characters.` (i suppose because of a time out). is there a list with all error messages somewhere?
[2016-11-03 18:55:03] sleger : when the last trade was 72426
[2016-11-03 18:55:35] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: will have to look into it
[2016-11-03 18:55:35] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: We are preparing to publish that list, I can email it to you for now
[2016-11-03 18:56:10] Cryptlex : Whats the best way to offset/hedge the funding costs when long?
[2016-11-03 18:56:38] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Actually, that error was from the API not the engine, so I don't have the list yet
[2016-11-03 18:56:44] BitMEX_Greg : tb: Due to impact mid. You need to full fund a position if you buy above impact ask or sell below impact bid. Please see https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-11-03 18:56:44] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Greg: is bitmex price for BTCUSD recursive? as in does kaiko price in the current price here?
[2016-11-03 18:56:59] BitMEX_Greg : TwinnerD: kaiko uses Bitstamp and Okcoin
[2016-11-03 18:57:06] BitMEX_Greg : O.K coin USD
[2016-11-03 18:57:35] TwinnerD : thx
[2016-11-03 18:58:43] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: ok, would be great if you could compile one.
[2016-11-03 18:59:15] zanza : new record XBT volume day at BitMEX ?
[2016-11-03 19:00:25] wurstgelee : i checked that bloomber terminal screenshot again. it says "Officials will restrict moving coins offshore"
[2016-11-03 19:00:30] wurstgelee : how?
[2016-11-03 19:00:32] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-03 19:00:45] javierstone : also zerohedge headline says officials are "mulling"
[2016-11-03 19:00:54] wurstgelee : yeah....
[2016-11-03 19:00:55] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: idk
[2016-11-03 19:00:58] javierstone : like i've been "mulling" how to have a threesome with my gf
[2016-11-03 19:01:04] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: they cant ffs
[2016-11-03 19:01:07] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-03 19:01:19] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: damn chinese wan´t to own all my precious BTC
[2016-11-03 19:01:24] wurstgelee : how would you possibly do that?
[2016-11-03 19:01:29] rapidtrades : http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/11/03/chinese-government-impose-capital-controls-bitcoin-exchanges/
[2016-11-03 19:01:35] rapidtrades : sites is cancer
[2016-11-03 19:01:37] lockhedge : wurstgelee: the "are considering", so it actually means the a aware of the problem and don't know how to fix it.
[2016-11-03 19:01:38] sleger : wurstgelee: build a wall around China
[2016-11-03 19:01:51] wurstgelee : lockhedge: hehe yep
[2016-11-03 19:01:55] shiroe : going back 710? :P
[2016-11-03 19:01:56] wurstgelee : soooo bullshit
[2016-11-03 19:02:15] wurstgelee : theres nothing they can do to geographically tie bitcoin to one place
[2016-11-03 19:02:23] BitMEX_Sam : lockhedge: That error is not a timeout, it is simply a badly-formatted `orderID` that you sent
[2016-11-03 19:02:25] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-11-03 19:02:32] CaptainDean : my humble opinion is we are going down again
[2016-11-03 19:02:34] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: they could nuke all of their their people
[2016-11-03 19:02:37] CaptainDean : but who I am :P
[2016-11-03 19:02:39] CaptainDean : a newb
[2016-11-03 19:02:41] BitMEX_Sam : That should never happen normally, not the sort of thing you catch & fix
[2016-11-03 19:02:42] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: those offshore?
[2016-11-03 19:02:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:03:00] rapidtrades : is this the source http://finance.jrj.com.cn/2016/11/03155121660993.shtml
[2016-11-03 19:03:15] javierstone : that feels pretty shakey
[2016-11-03 19:03:19] javierstone : anonymous source
[2016-11-03 19:03:40] rapidtrades : they usually are
[2016-11-03 19:03:46] wurstgelee : no matter the source... even if it was real, which i dont think it is, its ridiculous
[2016-11-03 19:03:55] rapidtrades : 'people familiar with the matter'
[2016-11-03 19:04:32] Tetsuo : articel was probably created by okc or huobi : - )
[2016-11-03 19:04:36] javierstone : coinbase's coins take forever to show up now
[2016-11-03 19:04:46] javierstone : i fucking bought 3 coins last friday at 701
[2016-11-03 19:04:57] Tetsuo : i made so many news fake headlines in 2014, i even got quoted by some serious newspapers back tehn
[2016-11-03 19:04:59] javierstone : its hillarious how much of a journey hte market has gone on since then
[2016-11-03 19:05:14] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: yep...i think its bullshit
[2016-11-03 19:05:17] gladimor : I keep on getting "Order submission error: Executing at price would lead to immediate liquidation."
[2016-11-03 19:05:18] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: don't lie
[2016-11-03 19:05:20] wurstgelee : stakes are high these days
[2016-11-03 19:05:22] gladimor : What the hell does that mean???
[2016-11-03 19:05:26] wurstgelee : why not try that?
[2016-11-03 19:05:29] wurstgelee : almost no effort...
[2016-11-03 19:05:36] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: check "fonzie" history @ bitcointalk
[2016-11-03 19:05:40] sleger : hmm so the open interest on xbj24h went down to "Open Interest 7,201", there was ADL for 36k, half of which were mine. Just before the ADL the MM removed his quote and put them back after, definitely smells fishy
[2016-11-03 19:05:47] wurstgelee : gladimor: too far off from mark price, lower leverage to fix
[2016-11-03 19:06:01] gladimor : aight thanks
[2016-11-03 19:06:03] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: lol no. u are fonzie?
[2016-11-03 19:06:06] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-03 19:06:07] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-03 19:06:11] khessabi2 : someone has alot of ETC on polo =))).....he doesn't let ETC to fly and hold 130ish
[2016-11-03 19:06:14] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: i´m guilty
[2016-11-03 19:06:23] rapidtrades : sleger: fishy? on this exchange? never
[2016-11-03 19:06:25] wurstgelee : i appreciated your work back then
[2016-11-03 19:06:36] Tetsuo : thx, i was pretty good back then
[2016-11-03 19:06:40] mjmj83 : Bitfinex offline and then we had the dump..
[2016-11-03 19:06:41] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:06:42] mjmj83 : coincidendce?
[2016-11-03 19:06:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5 @ 695.42
[2016-11-03 19:06:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 695.75 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-03 19:06:59] sleger : rapidtrades: well if the MM starts to play games like that it's pretty bad
[2016-11-03 19:07:31] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: my troll buddy "JorgeStolfi" was even better, he failed acomplaint to SEX during the last test of the Winklevoss ETF, made it on their website
[2016-11-03 19:07:46] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-03 19:07:48] javierstone : jesus
[2016-11-03 19:07:50] mjmj83 : 18:05 Bitfinex offline, 18:07 big bitcoin dump
[2016-11-03 19:08:00] Tetsuo : it´s hard to believe that BFX is still pulling this
[2016-11-03 19:08:02] aethlios : rapidtrades: we have to sue ZH if this is shit and fake
[2016-11-03 19:08:02] javierstone : i make tv shows for a living and i've been racking my brain about how to document crypto world
[2016-11-03 19:08:04] javierstone : its so crazy
[2016-11-03 19:08:04] RocketScience : sec
[2016-11-03 19:08:11] aethlios : tell we lost 1 mill usd
[2016-11-03 19:08:17] BitMEX_Greg : mjmj83: seems to be a recurring event. As one PGP would say "Should've hedged bro!"
[2016-11-03 19:08:18] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: its ridiculous...fucking obvious, they go through with it noegtheless
[2016-11-03 19:08:23] wurstgelee : nonetheless
[2016-11-03 19:08:37] wurstgelee : cold blooded ppl, i give tham that
[2016-11-03 19:08:41] wurstgelee : *them
[2016-11-03 19:08:55] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: every single one that trades there deserves it, but i don´t question stupidity in cryptoland anymore
[2016-11-03 19:09:19] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: neither. makes me good money too ;)
[2016-11-03 19:09:32] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: count me in : - )
[2016-11-03 19:10:19] TwinnerD : wurstgelee: you still long at 714?
[2016-11-03 19:10:31] wurstgelee : TwinnerD: lol no
[2016-11-03 19:10:39] wurstgelee : dumped with small win
[2016-11-03 19:10:50] TwinnerD : gj
[2016-11-03 19:10:52] wurstgelee : ctached knife @ 677.something instead
[2016-11-03 19:11:01] wurstgelee : sold already tho
[2016-11-03 19:11:03] wurstgelee : so flat now
[2016-11-03 19:11:19] javierstone : u think we'll get above 700 soon?
[2016-11-03 19:11:20] Tetsuo : I made loads of money during the last "China bans Bitcoin circle" i hope this will get another round of "ban news" in the next weeks
[2016-11-03 19:11:39] wurstgelee : no clue what to think. waiting how the "news" thing evolves i guess
[2016-11-03 19:11:39] javierstone : Tetsuo: by shorting n such?
[2016-11-03 19:11:45] Tetsuo : javierstone: yes
[2016-11-03 19:12:00] wurstgelee : something is wrong with me
[2016-11-03 19:12:04] wurstgelee : i just read "snorting"
[2016-11-03 19:12:10] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: just do it
[2016-11-03 19:12:24] wurstgelee : two letters: ha
[2016-11-03 19:12:26] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:14:04] numero : when I think Tetsuo, I visualize the Cheshire cat
[2016-11-03 19:14:15] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: you are right, i tried to delete an order with the idea 'no_order'...
[2016-11-03 19:14:45] sleger : So yes it seems the MM is gaming the system (I assume), here is what I think he did on XBJ24H : mark is lastprotected and last trade was 72426 (it doesnt trade often), market wen way down so he put his long position on 100x using the old mark price achieving a bankruptcy price above the market (73975). When I sold at 72426 that triggered the LIQ and made him buy against me at 72426 while also selling at 73975
[2016-11-03 19:14:46] wurstgelee : Bitfinex.com ‏@bitfinex 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten Übersetzung anzeigen We will be bringing the site back up in approximately 15min after coming online users will have 10min to cancel orders before matching start
[2016-11-03 19:15:26] wotan : china make it hard for btc to leave the country, they want that they stay there:)
[2016-11-03 19:15:33] rapidtrades : why would they need to cancel orders...what a f mess
[2016-11-03 19:15:41] rapidtrades : that message triggered me
[2016-11-03 19:15:46] RoftheN : What order is cancleed?
[2016-11-03 19:15:46] rapidtrades : im safe...
[2016-11-03 19:16:06] wurstgelee : sleger: i wouldnt call it gaming tho. he is using it as it works ;)
[2016-11-03 19:16:07] martinium : canceled order to avoid liquidation
[2016-11-03 19:16:08] Tetsuo : numero: thx, that´s a nice compiment, i´m a huge fan of alice
[2016-11-03 19:16:13] wurstgelee : doesnt make the system look good tho
[2016-11-03 19:16:32] wurstgelee : wotan: wotan, and how would they do it?
[2016-11-03 19:16:45] wurstgelee : how do u make btc respect borders?
[2016-11-03 19:16:45] rapidtrades : stick to the swap bro, ur to big for the rest
[2016-11-03 19:16:46] numero : Tetsuo: excellent, it was meant as such
[2016-11-03 19:16:57] sleger : wurstgelee: yes but .... know who you're in bed with
[2016-11-03 19:17:12] wurstgelee : sleger: ofc
[2016-11-03 19:17:15] sleger : he holds most pos everywhere
[2016-11-03 19:17:28] sleger : and he plays that game
[2016-11-03 19:17:28] wurstgelee : its clever tbh
[2016-11-03 19:17:43] wurstgelee : easy but cleave and effective
[2016-11-03 19:17:47] wurstgelee : *clever
[2016-11-03 19:17:47] wotan : wurstgelee: ,omey controls at exchanges etc
[2016-11-03 19:17:55] wurstgelee : wotan: lol?
[2016-11-03 19:18:16] wurstgelee : u cant prevent btc from "leaving the country"
[2016-11-03 19:18:22] wurstgelee : its already on every fucking node
[2016-11-03 19:18:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:18:27] wurstgelee : worldwide
[2016-11-03 19:18:34] wurstgelee : u just need the key to access it..
[2016-11-03 19:18:44] wotan : wurstgelee: its easy to say btc cant be banned, beliefe me our govermants have much in plan when they really want to bann something
[2016-11-03 19:19:26] wotan : if they want to ban for example btc they can do it due to a point where not many will use it anymore
[2016-11-03 19:19:29] javierstone : ya but badly they are willing to ban it and at what cost to other economic metrics
[2016-11-03 19:19:29] wurstgelee : wotan: they dont talk about banning, thee screenshots says prevent the move offshore
[2016-11-03 19:19:32] habibi : hopefully Seychelles law will stay as it is :)
[2016-11-03 19:19:36] wurstgelee : china wont ban it
[2016-11-03 19:19:41] wurstgelee : they are not stupid
[2016-11-03 19:19:49] wurstgelee : china holds the most power and staks in btc
[2016-11-03 19:20:07] wurstgelee : they are basically in control of a currency used worldwide
[2016-11-03 19:20:16] wurstgelee : why on earth would they give that up?
[2016-11-03 19:20:31] martinium : they shut down mines
[2016-11-03 19:20:34] wurstgelee : there is no fckn way that happens
[2016-11-03 19:20:39] wotan : yes sure i agree
[2016-11-03 19:20:45] wurstgelee : martinium: and by doing so, they lose control
[2016-11-03 19:20:48] wurstgelee : miners control btc
[2016-11-03 19:20:52] martinium : correct
[2016-11-03 19:20:53] wurstgelee : wont happen
[2016-11-03 19:20:58] wotan : but never say never
[2016-11-03 19:21:13] Tetsuo : never
[2016-11-03 19:21:14] wurstgelee : in thise case i do. it a stretegically important position
[2016-11-03 19:21:15] wotan : i try to see all possible scenarious and are prepared as good as i can
[2016-11-03 19:21:19] wurstgelee : *strategically
[2016-11-03 19:21:40] wurstgelee : depending on how crypto and/or btc develops, this is a fucking powerful position
[2016-11-03 19:21:54] wotan : pl would also said never there will be 2 eths before 4 months
[2016-11-03 19:22:01] wurstgelee : enormous potential value
[2016-11-03 19:22:20] rapidtrades : anon coins big winner
[2016-11-03 19:22:31] Tetsuo : IF Bitcoin get´s banned "fonziecoin" will make it to the top https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979296.0
[2016-11-03 19:22:32] wurstgelee : anon doesnt compete against btc
[2016-11-03 19:22:41] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: i remember that one ;)
[2016-11-03 19:22:47] numero : rapidtrades: Zcash to 3-3.5 :D
[2016-11-03 19:23:04] wotan : sure i agree i hold btc too and i think it will gain more vlaue and use in the future but shortterm there will be many dumps like this today
[2016-11-03 19:23:15] wurstgelee : seriously, anyone who knows how crypto works and assums, china might ban it should get his head examined
[2016-11-03 19:23:19] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-03 19:23:28] rapidtrades : i agree with Tetsuo...this could be start of a series of ban articles
[2016-11-03 19:23:31] wurstgelee : or at least think again
[2016-11-03 19:23:33] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:23:59] wurstgelee : if that happens, lean back if fuds gets less, buy in and see it shoot to the upside
[2016-11-03 19:24:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:25:09] wotan : yes sure money is beside foor that case
[2016-11-03 19:30:26] wurstgelee : made a small bet on "this is all fucking bullshit"
[2016-11-03 19:30:30] wurstgelee : longed 693 ;)
[2016-11-03 19:30:39] wurstgelee : and right on time it seems
[2016-11-03 19:30:40] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-03 19:31:41] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: call me next time ! :D
[2016-11-03 19:31:52] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: hm?
[2016-11-03 19:31:56] wurstgelee : i dont get it :)
[2016-11-03 19:32:00] wurstgelee : oh..lol
[2016-11-03 19:32:01] wurstgelee : that long
[2016-11-03 19:32:02] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-03 19:32:08] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: Give a me call next time (before you go a position)
[2016-11-03 19:32:13] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-03 19:32:14] CaptainDean : wurstgelee: i was kidding
[2016-11-03 19:32:22] CaptainDean : on a postiion*
[2016-11-03 19:32:26] wurstgelee : spontaneous decision. i decided china news is fake and/or bullshit
[2016-11-03 19:32:31] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-03 19:32:32] wotan : good job wurstgelee
[2016-11-03 19:37:59] wurstgelee : there we go....
[2016-11-03 19:41:23] javierstone : dow is going to close below 18k for second day in a row
[2016-11-03 19:41:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 44163 @ 700.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 19:41:44] habibi : :D
[2016-11-03 19:41:56] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-03 19:42:11] wotan : javierstone: wheres the plunge protection team who keep the dow with fed money over 18?
[2016-11-03 19:42:28] javierstone : wotan: they are writing zerohedge articles
[2016-11-03 19:42:41] wotan : javierstone: :))
[2016-11-03 19:43:09] wotan : javierstone: stocks will be interesting before and after elections
[2016-11-03 19:43:26] zanza : PPT on vaca waiting for election to finish
[2016-11-03 19:45:28] zanza : anyone like the new 1broker layout ?
[2016-11-03 19:45:41] wurstgelee : didnt even check it tbh
[2016-11-03 19:45:59] wurstgelee : here we are again @ 700
[2016-11-03 19:46:11] wurstgelee : short time no see
[2016-11-03 19:46:13] javierstone : i just went long at 700
[2016-11-03 19:46:27] wurstgelee : holding mine
[2016-11-03 19:46:41] wurstgelee : added some @ 700 tho
[2016-11-03 19:47:27] Tetsuo : back to 5000 cny soon
[2016-11-03 19:47:29] wurstgelee : ecxellent....
[2016-11-03 19:47:45] rapidtrades : it's not going back....we just dropped 10%
[2016-11-03 19:47:51] wurstgelee : time to open one of my new babies
[2016-11-03 19:48:10] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: 4900 at least u grumpy pervert
[2016-11-03 19:48:16] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: ;)
[2016-11-03 19:48:25] wurstgelee : i dont think 5k
[2016-11-03 19:48:33] rapidtrades : 4900 seems way too high
[2016-11-03 19:48:34] wurstgelee : i would consider dumping @ 4850 mebbe to be safe
[2016-11-03 19:48:57] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: i have staggered sells all the way up
[2016-11-03 19:49:04] shiroe : red candles incoming :)
[2016-11-03 19:49:05] wurstgelee : *subject to change
[2016-11-03 19:49:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:49:09] javierstone : i think we are going to see a rally when the dow news stars to circulate
[2016-11-03 19:49:14] lockhedge : how do ppl from mainland china currently fund their accounts at chinese exchanges?
[2016-11-03 19:49:35] rapidtrades : same as us i guess? btc?
[2016-11-03 19:50:18] lockhedge : but how do they get cny into their accounts? can china ban fiat deposits to exchanges?
[2016-11-03 19:50:34] rapidtrades : i think they already did
[2016-11-03 19:51:02] javierstone : there's gonna be another rally
[2016-11-03 19:51:07] rapidtrades : then the exchanges found some workaround
[2016-11-03 19:51:27] javierstone : Stocks slipped Thursday, putting the S&P 500 on track for its longest stretch of declines since October 2008.
[2016-11-03 19:51:34] javierstone : http://www.wsj.com/articles/stocks-struggle-to-regain-upward-momentum-1478162194
[2016-11-03 19:51:44] rapidtrades : cash deposits, vouchers, who knows what they're doing
[2016-11-03 19:52:22] javierstone : payments in china are crazy. the experience of paying for a taxi is nuts. they'll figure out a way to get around anything. that news is bunk
[2016-11-03 19:52:28] aethlios : no update from the news?? bloomberg should make an announcement
[2016-11-03 19:52:41] laisee : if banned, they wil find another way ... chinese are pretty good at evading gvt controls, by practice
[2016-11-03 19:52:53] rapidtrades : yeah im sure it's their priority to make an announcement @aethlios
[2016-11-03 19:53:48] wurstgelee : sooooo...everyone waiting for funding before long?
[2016-11-03 19:53:49] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-03 19:53:59] javierstone : ah fuck i forgot about that
[2016-11-03 19:54:05] wurstgelee : javierstone: me 2
[2016-11-03 19:54:06] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-03 19:54:08] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-03 19:54:27] rapidtrades : don't forgot to pump again
[2016-11-03 19:54:32] javierstone : The S&P 500 has logged losses in the seven sessions through Wednesday, the first time it's done so since November 2011. And with stocks slipping Thursday, the losing streak is set to extend even further, which would make for a highly unusual occurrence.
[2016-11-03 19:54:35] rapidtrades : so i can get my funding
[2016-11-03 19:54:35] wurstgelee : so please jump up $3 to not make me regret ;)
[2016-11-03 19:54:41] javierstone : http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/03/the-sp-500-is-at-risk-of-doing-something-its-done-just-once-in-the-past-two-decades.html
[2016-11-03 19:54:45] laisee : pimping in 16 mins?
[2016-11-03 19:54:53] laisee : ^i^u
[2016-11-03 19:54:54] wurstgelee : whats in 16?
[2016-11-03 19:55:00] wurstgelee : 5?
[2016-11-03 19:55:11] wurstgelee : funding? ;)
[2016-11-03 19:55:24] rapidtrades : u shouldn't try to cheap funding @wurstgelee
[2016-11-03 19:55:30] rapidtrades : cheat
[2016-11-03 19:55:33] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: i didnt
[2016-11-03 19:55:37] wurstgelee : i forgot
[2016-11-03 19:55:37] numero : anyone short crude these days? it's going quite well
[2016-11-03 19:55:38] laisee : mishtake
[2016-11-03 19:55:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:55:59] wurstgelee : also the after-fundinr run yields good results if you catch any ;)
[2016-11-03 19:56:03] wurstgelee : *g
[2016-11-03 20:00:50] wurstgelee : next move up
[2016-11-03 20:01:15] shiroe : sideways, another pending drop.
[2016-11-03 20:01:23] wurstgelee : shiroe: we will see ;)
[2016-11-03 20:01:57] wurstgelee : shiroe: i win ;)
[2016-11-03 20:02:09] javierstone : stock market news is going to be bad
[2016-11-03 20:02:54] aethlios : please post any news if you learn anything.
[2016-11-03 20:03:22] wurstgelee : +1
[2016-11-03 20:03:44] shiroe : 4800 resistance. hmmm.. go to 4500! fast.
[2016-11-03 20:04:01] javierstone : nah they are gonna break 4800
[2016-11-03 20:04:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.01531
[2016-11-03 20:05:04] javierstone : okcoin and hubboi just broke 4800
[2016-11-03 20:05:22] wurstgelee : shiroe: next move was clearly up i'd say
[2016-11-03 20:05:24] wurstgelee : i win ;)
[2016-11-03 20:05:40] wotan : javierstone: this sp 500 news is interesting thanks for sharing, although its just 3 percent dip during last 8 days its historical very rare
[2016-11-03 20:05:50] shiroe : wurstgelee: could be :)
[2016-11-03 20:05:58] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-03 20:06:16] shiroe : it was teasing the top, but the sell was huge.
[2016-11-03 20:06:28] shiroe : though it always ends green. lol
[2016-11-03 20:06:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 20:06:39] javierstone : ya but psycologically the fed has been worried about any dip below 18k for down and 2k dip S&P
[2016-11-03 20:06:43] javierstone : plus they wanna raise the rate in december
[2016-11-03 20:07:05] javierstone : people are dellusional in the US right now
[2016-11-03 20:07:28] wotan : javierstone: yea but lets see f they ever rise this rate i would not be suprised to see now rise at december although many expecting it
[2016-11-03 20:07:43] wotan : no rise i mean
[2016-11-03 20:07:58] javierstone : its gonna get weird for sure
[2016-11-03 20:08:06] wotan : normally good tiem to do a nice short ion sp500
[2016-11-03 20:08:33] wotan : but im not much into trading on stock markets
[2016-11-03 20:08:56] javierstone : here we go post-stock market btc rally
[2016-11-03 20:08:57] wotan : im watching it very close but for trading i prefer other fields
[2016-11-03 20:08:58] javierstone : lez do it
[2016-11-03 20:09:20] javierstone : it would be amazing if it got bakc to 730 levels today
[2016-11-03 20:09:58] john1243 : damnit, should have set a stop-los
[2016-11-03 20:10:03] wurstgelee : uh oh...
[2016-11-03 20:10:05] wotan : a bit sidewy movement for some days would be nice too for btc
[2016-11-03 20:10:14] shiroe : road to 666 btc. lol
[2016-11-03 20:10:40] wurstgelee : hhe
[2016-11-03 20:10:43] wurstgelee : i am out ;)
[2016-11-03 20:10:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 701.78
[2016-11-03 20:10:52] wotan : shiroe: nooo;)
[2016-11-03 20:10:59] wurstgelee : this is too much of a shitshow...
[2016-11-03 20:11:04] wurstgelee : popcorn time
[2016-11-03 20:11:12] shiroe : rekt time!
[2016-11-03 20:11:23] wotan : wurstgelee: as long as your in profit concrats to you
[2016-11-03 20:11:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 698.19 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-03 20:11:59] wurstgelee : wotan: lol. weird day. bought and sold prob at least 500k contracts today
[2016-11-03 20:12:07] wurstgelee : realised pnl +.064
[2016-11-03 20:12:09] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-03 20:12:35] Shaman : yeah, bumpy ride today
[2016-11-03 20:12:38] habibi : wurstgelee: at least u paid some nasty fees in meanwhile
[2016-11-03 20:12:49] wurstgelee : habibi: yep, i supported bitmex
[2016-11-03 20:12:57] wurstgelee : also the MMs
[2016-11-03 20:13:00] wotan : wurstgelee: :)) profit is profit
[2016-11-03 20:13:05] wurstgelee : 80% market orders today
[2016-11-03 20:13:10] wurstgelee : if not more
[2016-11-03 20:14:08] wurstgelee : wotan: if had had known before, i wouldnt have taken the risk of engaging in knife-catching
[2016-11-03 20:14:15] wurstgelee : not for this profit
[2016-11-03 20:14:16] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 20:14:42] wurstgelee : but it was fun
[2016-11-03 20:14:45] wurstgelee : thats something =)
[2016-11-03 20:14:47] habibi : ~200 $ in fees, will be enough for 2 hours of bodyguard service when sally will come for them :p
[2016-11-03 20:14:54] wurstgelee : habibi: hehe
[2016-11-03 20:15:02] shiroe : i prefer going eth long back to .0175
[2016-11-03 20:15:24] wurstgelee : didnt reakt much to btc dump
[2016-11-03 20:15:27] wurstgelee : weirdly
[2016-11-03 20:15:29] wurstgelee : *react
[2016-11-03 20:15:52] habibi : shiroe: sleger can send u invitation to eth bagholding club :)
[2016-11-03 20:16:12] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-03 20:16:18] shiroe : habibi: yes pls. and etc bagholding too :P
[2016-11-03 20:16:28] sleger : no not that shit
[2016-11-03 20:16:30] wurstgelee : i was member of the etc bagholding club once
[2016-11-03 20:16:39] wurstgelee : parties suckt, only sausage party
[2016-11-03 20:16:42] wurstgelee : left
[2016-11-03 20:17:26] john1243 : lost nearly all my profits :(
[2016-11-03 20:17:49] shiroe : :troll:
[2016-11-03 20:19:20] shiroe : it'll test 4650 support or way go down 4500. surprise surprise.
[2016-11-03 20:22:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 15000 @ 721.67
[2016-11-03 20:27:43] wurstgelee : ok, one last round... oO
[2016-11-03 20:28:13] y1uy : further leg down?
[2016-11-03 20:28:32] wurstgelee : dunoo, i hope not too soon
[2016-11-03 20:28:33] wurstgelee : i longed ;)
[2016-11-03 20:28:39] wurstgelee : *dunno
[2016-11-03 20:29:04] y1uy : i was stupid for cancelling my long last night
[2016-11-03 20:29:06] y1uy : got cold feed
[2016-11-03 20:29:17] y1uy : cancelling my short*
[2016-11-03 20:29:35] wurstgelee : cold feet are a safe bet, especially in (back then) bullmarkets
[2016-11-03 20:29:48] y1uy : i shorted btc at 740s, closed at 730s
[2016-11-03 20:29:49] wurstgelee : i would do the same if i cant babysit in your situation
[2016-11-03 20:29:59] y1uy : yeah i had to go sleep
[2016-11-03 20:30:06] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-11-03 20:30:09] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-03 20:30:25] y1uy : but i saw the whole thing, rsi divergence was going bearish
[2016-11-03 20:30:35] y1uy : head and shoulder BTCCNY
[2016-11-03 20:30:42] wurstgelee : if only one could be 1005 sure markets are rational... ;)
[2016-11-03 20:30:54] wurstgelee : 100%
[2016-11-03 20:31:01] y1uy : yeah
[2016-11-03 20:31:13] y1uy : well
[2016-11-03 20:31:26] y1uy : possible for btc to double bottom at 680
[2016-11-03 20:31:39] wurstgelee : that long was a terrible idea
[2016-11-03 20:31:41] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-03 20:31:52] y1uy : i hate overtrading too
[2016-11-03 20:32:04] y1uy : anyway afk gotta run to the pizza shop
[2016-11-03 20:32:17] wurstgelee : yep. shouldnt have taken that one. oh well, sure sign to stop now =)
[2016-11-03 20:32:21] wurstgelee : hf
[2016-11-03 20:32:23] miramm1115 : I turn my bot off for 8 hours and you guys dump bitcoin without me, that's not fair
[2016-11-03 20:32:39] wurstgelee : miramm1115: BECAUSE ....
[2016-11-03 20:32:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 20:33:09] lockhedge : miramm1115: welcome back :)
[2016-11-03 20:33:19] miramm1115 : lockhedge: thanks
[2016-11-03 20:34:26] shiroe : btc having fun taking a slide. relaxing. lol
[2016-11-03 20:34:28] john1243 : I shorted at 744 lol
[2016-11-03 20:34:42] miramm1115 : at least I had sizable short positions on most contracts
[2016-11-03 20:35:05] wurstgelee : so my upnl is - .02 right now and i have all 5 lights on....
[2016-11-03 20:35:08] wurstgelee : sure oO
[2016-11-03 20:35:09] john1243 : but I also got cold feet and closed it early
[2016-11-03 20:36:55] mjones : stop btc. we're not going for the all time low
[2016-11-03 20:37:05] lockhedge : miramm1115: last 24h were the worst in my bot's history, a lot of "adverse selection", huge time outs. but at least very decent volume ;)
[2016-11-03 20:37:10] wurstgelee : mjones: :D
[2016-11-03 20:37:27] wurstgelee : mjones: i agre 4740 should hold
[2016-11-03 20:37:30] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-03 20:37:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 20:37:36] miramm1115 : lockhedge: what about previous few days?
[2016-11-03 20:38:01] john1243 : lockhedge: does your bot make decent money?
[2016-11-03 20:38:05] mjones : yeah that lag shit needs to be fixed. i fomo market bought this wall and i got in $8 higher than i wanted
[2016-11-03 20:38:19] mjones : switched to limit orders
[2016-11-03 20:38:35] sleger : market orders shouldnt exist
[2016-11-03 20:38:56] miramm1115 : market orders exist to help MMs
[2016-11-03 20:38:57] wurstgelee : 24k btc turnover on xbtusd. bitmex, are u happy? ;)
[2016-11-03 20:39:11] martinium : today was a wild day
[2016-11-03 20:39:18] martinium : so much to be made
[2016-11-03 20:39:21] martinium : money*
[2016-11-03 20:39:25] habibi : wurstgelee: its still only 12 btc :(
[2016-11-03 20:39:42] wurstgelee : habibi: still not bad
[2016-11-03 20:39:45] wurstgelee : also other contracts
[2016-11-03 20:39:51] wurstgelee : to lazy to add up
[2016-11-03 20:39:52] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 20:39:54] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-11-03 20:40:14] lockhedge : miramm1115: previous days were fine, i actually don't have any reasons to complain...
[2016-11-03 20:40:48] wurstgelee : did okc just stop delivering data`?
[2016-11-03 20:40:55] wurstgelee : btcwisdom has none
[2016-11-03 20:41:02] wurstgelee : nvm
[2016-11-03 20:41:03] wurstgelee : back
[2016-11-03 20:41:07] habibi : dont rely on btcwisdom
[2016-11-03 20:41:14] miramm1115 : lockhedge: I'm having one of the best weeks overall, last 24h including, but my bots always liked volatility
[2016-11-03 20:42:45] lockhedge : miramm1115: how do you handle 30 seconds timeouts (no way to cancel/amend orders)
[2016-11-03 20:43:03] martinium : miramm1115: what lang did you code your bots in?
[2016-11-03 20:43:17] habibi : martinium: english
[2016-11-03 20:43:27] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-03 20:43:30] martinium : habibi: thats not a programming language
[2016-11-03 20:43:31] john1243 : chinese
[2016-11-03 20:43:45] wurstgelee : fortran
[2016-11-03 20:44:10] john1243 : clingon\
[2016-11-03 20:44:11] rapidtrades : guys listen
[2016-11-03 20:44:12] sleger : martinium: for you probably D- would make sense
[2016-11-03 20:44:30] miramm1115 : lockhedge: timeouts always suck, I reduce order size and increase spreads or stop quoting altogether if it gets really bad
[2016-11-03 20:44:35] rapidtrades : reminder fpor Operation Marco Polo
[2016-11-03 20:44:44] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-03 20:44:46] wurstgelee : she again...
[2016-11-03 20:44:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 20:45:03] john1243 : rapidtrades: what is operation marco polo?
[2016-11-03 20:45:06] habibi : rapidtrades: thats a nice name! :)
[2016-11-03 20:45:17] martinium : sleger: there is a programming lang called D even though you said D- to mess with me :-p
[2016-11-03 20:45:20] rapidtrades : john1243: don't worry about it
[2016-11-03 20:45:21] wurstgelee : i have to agree on the name tho
[2016-11-03 20:45:21] miramm1115 : martinium: C#/F# plus node.js for some exchange gateways
[2016-11-03 20:45:22] wurstgelee : good one
[2016-11-03 20:45:33] martinium : miramm1115: cool.
[2016-11-03 20:45:58] john1243 : rapidtrades: pfft, I'll wqorry about your mom, in the meantime can you tell me what this is?
[2016-11-03 20:46:25] mjones : xmr dump
[2016-11-03 20:46:59] wurstgelee : xmr will go back to where it has been 3 months ago
[2016-11-03 20:47:16] wurstgelee : low vol and nobody cares
[2016-11-03 20:47:16] john1243 : 0.025?
[2016-11-03 20:47:30] wurstgelee : higher prob
[2016-11-03 20:47:41] wurstgelee : volume will die down nonetheless
[2016-11-03 20:47:44] john1243 : new ATH?
[2016-11-03 20:50:45] negamax : guys can someone eli5 fair price marking on zcash from tomorrow? I read it few times but don't think I understand it correctly
[2016-11-03 20:52:00] habibi : negamax: tl;dr u will loose some money
[2016-11-03 20:52:36] negamax : that says nothing, can someone intelligent respond please
[2016-11-03 20:52:37] habibi : negamax: just kidding, i am sorry for my behavior, i am leading u to our expert martinium
[2016-11-03 20:53:17] mjones : liquidity sucks. look at that xbtusd orderbook
[2016-11-03 20:53:56] martinium : negamax: The Fair Price is calculated by comparing where traders are currently quoting on the Futures market and its underlying Index Price.
[2016-11-03 20:54:17] martinium : index price will be based on last traded price for zec/btc on poloniex
[2016-11-03 20:54:53] sleger : (index being irrelevant as it is only used for settlement in 2 months)
[2016-11-03 20:55:48] negamax : martinium: @sleger thanks, would that make mark price closer to price on polo (if there's a huge difference)
[2016-11-03 20:55:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1400 @ 694.99
[2016-11-03 20:55:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1070 @ 694.55
[2016-11-03 20:56:05] negamax : also does mark price gets used for calculating margin?
[2016-11-03 20:56:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 5000 @ 718.60
[2016-11-03 20:56:42] mjones : word is price won't be the same as polo tomorrow for zec
[2016-11-03 20:56:49] sleger : negamax: no it wouldnt make it closer
[2016-11-03 20:56:52] mjones : so dont go tits deep in a long thinking it will
[2016-11-03 20:56:55] shiroe : no ideaa why eth is cheaper here.
[2016-11-03 20:57:01] sleger : negamax: yes its used for margin
[2016-11-03 20:57:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 693.79
[2016-11-03 20:58:02] miramm1115 : how nice, I'm just in time for another dump ;-)
[2016-11-03 20:58:08] negamax : mjones: @sleger thanks
[2016-11-03 20:58:44] toolbox : so now for example, when the ZECZ price is 0.56 and the ZEC price is 1.28, what would the fair price be? and how would the fair price change if ZECZ spiked to 99.99?
[2016-11-03 20:59:15] sleger : toolbox: it would be 0.56
[2016-11-03 20:59:19] miramm1115 : toolbox: fair price will not change
[2016-11-03 21:00:04] miramm1115 : but quick spikes on polo will cause spikes in fair price for a minute or so until the basis is re-calculated
[2016-11-03 21:01:01] negamax : "Fair Price is calculated by comparing where traders are currently quoting on the Futures market and its underlying Index Price." This makes me thing, it will be somewhere between current price and polo price
[2016-11-03 21:01:42] mjones : true negamax
[2016-11-03 21:01:48] mjones : same for me
[2016-11-03 21:01:50] miramm1115 : no, the basis will be applied so the fair price is approximately in the middle of the orderbook
[2016-11-03 21:01:54] lockhedge : negamax: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-11-03 21:02:22] toolbox : at 99.99 the order book would be empty of sells, only buys left
[2016-11-03 21:02:25] sleger : negamax: when you understand, please explain martinium
[2016-11-03 21:03:16] negamax : sleger: @toolbox @lockhedge @mjones @miramm1115 I don't think we can know this without knowing %Fair Basis
[2016-11-03 21:03:30] negamax : wait I got it
[2016-11-03 21:03:34] sleger : On what I said earlier, I dont think it's the MM playing games by the way, maybe someone else did, but not the MM, just setting the record straight
[2016-11-03 21:03:51] miramm1115 : it's all their in the link @lockhedge posted
[2016-11-03 21:03:54] negamax : let me calculate this and post the value here
[2016-11-03 21:03:56] sleger : negamax: fairbasis is written on the contract specs
[2016-11-03 21:04:11] toolbox : miramm1115: I've read it several times, but it doesn't make sense to me
[2016-11-03 21:04:11] miramm1115 : *there
[2016-11-03 21:04:21] negamax : -381%.. hahah!
[2016-11-03 21:04:26] sleger : Fair Basis -0.7683617 Fair Basis Rate -381%
[2016-11-03 21:04:27] negamax : great, nothing will change
[2016-11-03 21:04:46] miramm1115 : that's what we've been telling you :-)
[2016-11-03 21:04:46] wurstgelee : it will
[2016-11-03 21:04:52] wurstgelee : the closer weg get to dec 30