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[2016-11-03 17:20:19] BitMEX_Wally : tb: Wash trades do not have any effect, they only pay fees
[2016-11-03 17:20:24] BitMEX_Wally : Wash trades are not even published
[2016-11-03 17:20:49] sleger : but they have some effect, on margin, on ADL ranking ...
[2016-11-03 17:21:52] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: They do not affect avgEntryPrice
[2016-11-03 17:22:05] BitMEX_Wally : So they don't affect anything
[2016-11-03 17:22:11] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: they affect unrealised
[2016-11-03 17:22:45] rapidtrades : what is considered a wash trade here
[2016-11-03 17:22:53] sleger : or are wash trades different than a trade with a second account owned by the same person ?
[2016-11-03 17:22:56] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: An account trading with itself
[2016-11-03 17:23:01] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: you buy and sell at the same price on the same account
[2016-11-03 17:23:40] BitMEX_Wally : If you are trading with different accounts then we do not know it is wash trade
[2016-11-03 17:23:55] Cryptlex : I remember doing that by accident lol
[2016-11-03 17:24:09] rapidtrades : do u pay fees for wash trades?
[2016-11-03 17:24:17] Cryptlex : So i just end up paying the fee minus the rebate?
[2016-11-03 17:24:17] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Yes
[2016-11-03 17:24:23] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2016-11-03 17:25:06] BitMEX_Wally : We're the number #1 non-Chinese exchange today: http://exchangewar.info/#bitmex
[2016-11-03 17:25:08] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: so wash trade wont lower your adl ranking, but offseting position between 2 accounts will ?
[2016-11-03 17:25:30] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Possibly
[2016-11-03 17:25:37] rapidtrades : hmmm sleger is on to smth
[2016-11-03 17:26:18] sleger : rapidtrades: i've already explained it
[2016-11-03 17:26:22] sleger : few times...
[2016-11-03 17:26:39] rapidtrades : yes u made sledger so u can get around ADL
[2016-11-03 17:27:09] sleger : if you have large unrealised and high rank in adl, switch your pos to a 2nd account by trading against it and your unrealised becomes 0 therefore reducing your ADL rank (and pushing someone else higher)
[2016-11-03 17:27:26] sleger : rapidtrades: sledger and I are just "friends"
[2016-11-03 17:27:41] rapidtrades : it's brilliant....and it just costs u 0.05% in fees
[2016-11-03 17:29:01] sleger : yes unfortunately noone should have to have to go through this to arb a rule
[2016-11-03 17:34:11] jeeburns : is it possible to close a portion of your order or no?
[2016-11-03 17:34:25] lockhedge : HKEJ published an article about possible "capital controls" already yesterday, citing "foreign sources" http://www2.hkej.com/instantnews/china/article/1425421 "The measures under consideration include restrictions on the domestic trading platform to transfer bitcoins to offshore platforms, or restrictions on the amount of bitcoins transferred to offshore platforms, according to people familiar with the matter."
[2016-11-03 17:35:01] rapidtrades : and what is HKEJ
[2016-11-03 17:36:00] lockhedge : HK Economic Journal
[2016-11-03 17:36:27] rapidtrades : no shit...i meant what kind of rep does it have
[2016-11-03 17:36:43] rapidtrades : is it the zerohedge of HK
[2016-11-03 17:37:47] lockhedge : they definitely have a higher reputation than zerohedge, but who doesn't
[2016-11-03 17:39:49] thomaskikansha : one of the main press in HK
[2016-11-03 17:41:34] rapidtrades : I'm confused, are we talking about restrictions in china, HK or both
[2016-11-03 17:41:34] numero : lockhedge: sounds just as vague as the english articles
[2016-11-03 17:42:29] numero : this one's similar, http://wallstreetcn.com/node/271376
[2016-11-03 17:43:04] thomaskikansha : literally no restriction imposed in HK
[2016-11-03 17:43:06] BitMEX_Wally : China already has restrictions on on-shore FX conversion. You can only convert up to 50,000 USD worth of CNY into USD/HKD/EUR etc each year
[2016-11-03 17:43:16] BitMEX_Wally : I suspect they will just apply this regime to Bitcoin
[2016-11-03 17:44:10] BitMEX_Wally : I consider this news bullish for Bitcoin because it elevates Bitcoin to the status of a currency in China
[2016-11-03 17:44:14] thomaskikansha : rapidtrades: different authority is responsible for the policy in HK and in China respectively
[2016-11-03 17:44:41] lockhedge : numero: this article you linked cites an article that cites "Bloomberg" (likely zerohedge)
[2016-11-03 17:44:43] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah HK has its own laws and monetary authority
[2016-11-03 17:44:54] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: I'd say it's bullish, because if it's true then people will rush to buy bitcoin before it goes in effect
[2016-11-03 17:44:58] thomaskikansha : yeah HKMA
[2016-11-03 17:45:17] rapidtrades : sleger: how do u know they haven't done that already?
[2016-11-03 17:45:27] rapidtrades : we hit near all-time highs in china this week
[2016-11-03 17:45:29] BitMEX_Wally : HKMA have declared Bitcoin not money, so they don't have to regulate it. They call it a virtual commodity
[2016-11-03 17:45:39] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: the article says Bitcoin is regulated as commodity, that's why regulators are searching for ways to restrict it the same way as currencies
[2016-11-03 17:45:42] rapidtrades : they're notorious for leaking data
[2016-11-03 17:46:07] rapidtrades : buy the inside info, sell the fact etc
[2016-11-03 17:46:12] sleger : rapidtrades: so zcash should go to 3 ?
[2016-11-03 17:46:18] rapidtrades : it's going
[2016-11-03 17:46:52] sleger : dec 31st : 0.1, jan 1st : 3.1
[2016-11-03 17:47:07] numero : lockhedge: and yours cites "informed sources" :P
[2016-11-03 17:47:37] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Wally: I dont see much development of crypto-related items in HK recently though
[2016-11-03 17:47:38] rapidtrades : ok 500k...that can't be a real bid
[2016-11-03 17:47:41] rapidtrades : and its gone
[2016-11-03 17:48:46] lockhedge : numero: yeah, but it's from yesterday (before the zerohedge article appeared), so it's a different source
[2016-11-03 17:48:54] sleger : rapidtrades: was part eaten and still there
[2016-11-03 17:49:50] numero : lockhedge: hmm, touche
[2016-11-03 17:50:55] rapidtrades : sleger: now's not the time to buy 500k worth of bitcoins
[2016-11-03 17:51:17] thomaskikansha : seems stablizing above 1.3
[2016-11-03 17:52:20] sleger : it's always the time to buy 2 ferraris worth of bitcoin
[2016-11-03 17:55:18] BitMEX_Wally : Still there 476425 @ 710.01
[2016-11-03 17:56:22] sleger : we all know it's whally's bid
[2016-11-03 17:56:31] BitMEX_Wally : Wally the whale?
[2016-11-03 17:56:35] sleger : yep
[2016-11-03 17:56:57] BitMEX_Wally : As opposed to Sleger the Slug?
[2016-11-03 17:57:57] sleger : "Slug, or land slug, is a common name for any apparently shell-less terrestrial gastropod mollusc."
[2016-11-03 17:58:28] thomaskikansha : thats only 4764 contracts in okc futures there was one 80000 contracts bid in quarterlies earlier today when China's at 5100
[2016-11-03 17:58:52] sleger : well that guy wasnt very smart
[2016-11-03 18:00:28] AudibleScience : "slug" is the user friendly and URL valid name of a post no?
[2016-11-03 18:00:43] AudibleScience : lol
[2016-11-03 18:01:49] wurstgelee : re.
[2016-11-03 18:02:01] wurstgelee : what did i miss? is bitcoin dead yet? are we @ 10k?
[2016-11-03 18:03:09] habibi : on fixed my liq should be the same no matter what other positions or orders i have right?
[2016-11-03 18:03:37] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Correct
[2016-11-03 18:03:52] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: check my swap position liq now and in minute if u can
[2016-11-03 18:03:53] wurstgelee : i tossed a coin, i can verify Wally's answer
[2016-11-03 18:03:57] wurstgelee : same result
[2016-11-03 18:04:12] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Currently 687.77
[2016-11-03 18:04:16] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: So you are 25x isolated
[2016-11-03 18:04:23] habibi : check now
[2016-11-03 18:04:53] BitMEX_Wally : 708.36
[2016-11-03 18:05:02] habibi : still 25x isolated
[2016-11-03 18:05:19] Tetsuo : thomaskikansha: did the 80k get filled, did u watch?
[2016-11-03 18:05:53] Tetsuo : i don´t think i´ve ever seen a80k order @okc
[2016-11-03 18:06:13] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Sorry, 687.77 now. Are you changing the risk limit?
[2016-11-03 18:06:25] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: nope, just adding 500k order to the books
[2016-11-03 18:08:34] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh sorry, that 708.38 was not liquidation price but margin call price, meaning at that price we will drop your risk limit down to avoid a liquidation
[2016-11-03 18:09:34] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: ok, thanks
[2016-11-03 18:09:46] BitMEX_Wally : So 708.36 margin call price and 687.77 liquidation price. But once your position exceeds the risk step your liquidation price could rise
[2016-11-03 18:09:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 709.35
[2016-11-03 18:10:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 29995 @ 708.70 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 18:10:20] shiroe : ride the ethereum train :)
[2016-11-03 18:10:51] wurstgelee : Ron Zacapa Reserve Limitada 2014.
[2016-11-03 18:10:54] wurstgelee : Thank you zcash
[2016-11-03 18:10:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 18:11:04] wurstgelee : *Reserva
[2016-11-03 18:11:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 55424 @ 707.05 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-03 18:11:14] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: So to confirm your liquidation price will not change until your position goes above 200 XBT
[2016-11-03 18:11:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2472 @ 701.73
[2016-11-03 18:11:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 701.35
[2016-11-03 18:11:39] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-11-03 18:11:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50000 @ 701.88 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-03 18:11:54] wurstgelee : ouch
[2016-11-03 18:11:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 699.38
[2016-11-03 18:11:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5029 @ 699.88
[2016-11-03 18:12:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 70000 @ 699.03 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-03 18:12:33] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: site is so slow during actions, u need to work it out even a little
[2016-11-03 18:12:35] wurstgelee : time to prepare some knife catching...
[2016-11-03 18:12:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 698.16
[2016-11-03 18:12:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 696.78
[2016-11-03 18:12:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12000 @ 695.51
[2016-11-03 18:12:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 697.43
[2016-11-03 18:12:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 698.19
[2016-11-03 18:12:37] Apocalyptic : nice
[2016-11-03 18:12:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3000 @ 726.09
[2016-11-03 18:12:43] wurstgelee : what habibi says
[2016-11-03 18:12:47] wurstgelee : its lagging and slow
[2016-11-03 18:12:50] wurstgelee : if action happens
[2016-11-03 18:12:50] sleger : cant trade
[2016-11-03 18:12:54] wurstgelee : same
[2016-11-03 18:12:57] sleger : only chat
[2016-11-03 18:13:02] messiaen8844 : same
[2016-11-03 18:13:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9241 @ 692.37
[2016-11-03 18:13:10] messiaen8844 : this has been happening in the past days
[2016-11-03 18:13:22] wurstgelee : @ wally, u are aware of those problems i guess?
[2016-11-03 18:13:50] imabeast : caught that at 680
[2016-11-03 18:13:52] imabeast : yee
[2016-11-03 18:14:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7500 @ 691.42
[2016-11-03 18:14:21] wurstgelee : lol. MM come back please
[2016-11-03 18:14:39] shiroe : it seems 4500 will be the floor. lol
[2016-11-03 18:14:44] Teddy76 : never seen Bitmex untradable like this
[2016-11-03 18:15:03] wurstgelee : Teddy76: yep...
[2016-11-03 18:15:05] mjones : 0kcoin is so much better
[2016-11-03 18:15:14] sleger : kdb has its limitations
[2016-11-03 18:15:16] wurstgelee : it wasnt that way earlier...
[2016-11-03 18:15:17] wurstgelee : this is new
[2016-11-03 18:15:52] y1uy : I warned u guys itll go lower
[2016-11-03 18:15:53] habibi : used to partially but never that much
[2016-11-03 18:16:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 20 @ 719.42
[2016-11-03 18:16:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 70 @ 718.32
[2016-11-03 18:16:05] Rizky : y1uy: why?
[2016-11-03 18:16:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 2000 @ 718.00
[2016-11-03 18:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJZ16`: Sell 24000 @ 75461
[2016-11-03 18:16:42] shiroe : ETH still cheap :)
[2016-11-03 18:16:49] shiroe : 0.0165 incomng
[2016-11-03 18:17:02] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: We're working on it
[2016-11-03 18:17:05] shiroe : good i shorted at 735 xbt
[2016-11-03 18:17:09] y1uy : Rizky: why whaty?
[2016-11-03 18:17:11] numero : imabeast: nice
[2016-11-03 18:17:15] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2016-11-03 18:17:40] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: purely a load problem i assume?
[2016-11-03 18:17:42] wurstgelee : more users?
[2016-11-03 18:17:45] habibi : so lets call mm out of wood
[2016-11-03 18:17:58] habibi : we need u on REP
[2016-11-03 18:18:19] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: It's an issue with more users when combined with the liquidation risk checks. Will be fixed soon
[2016-11-03 18:18:55] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: i assumed something like that because it only happens during liquidations... thanks for heads-up!
[2016-11-03 18:19:04] Teddy76 : BitMEX_Wally: quick fix : remove zcash :D
[2016-11-03 18:19:16] wurstgelee : so...did anyone catch a xbtusd?
[2016-11-03 18:19:20] wurstgelee : *knife
[2016-11-03 18:19:36] rapidtrades : so i guess ban is srs huh
[2016-11-03 18:19:46] imabeast : wurstgelee: yes :D
[2016-11-03 18:19:58] imabeast : wurstgelee: avg is at 684
[2016-11-03 18:20:08] wurstgelee : imabeast: damn. my 684 didnt get filled ffs
[2016-11-03 18:20:10] wurstgelee : 689
[2016-11-03 18:20:13] wurstgelee : not sure if happy
[2016-11-03 18:20:55] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: i´mhere to share your tears if it drops another 10% , just bought in
[2016-11-03 18:21:01] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-03 18:21:08] Apocalyptic : you guys are nuts
[2016-11-03 18:21:08] wurstgelee : i am already trying to get out tbh
[2016-11-03 18:21:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 18:21:17] Apocalyptic : who buys something like this
[2016-11-03 18:21:23] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: bitmex
[2016-11-03 18:21:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 18:21:30] wurstgelee : well.. bitmex users
[2016-11-03 18:21:51] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Did your 500k bid get filled? :P
[2016-11-03 18:21:53] shiroe : i wanna see a 40% loss on btc from 5k to 3k. lmao
[2016-11-03 18:21:55] RocketScience : well
[2016-11-03 18:21:59] RocketScience : i blown up my rockets xD
[2016-11-03 18:22:04] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: u'd better check ! :D
[2016-11-03 18:22:09] Apocalyptic : you're better off longing zcash even at this point :p
[2016-11-03 18:22:19] Tetsuo : Apocalyptic: plz stop trolling
[2016-11-03 18:22:20] wurstgelee : both
[2016-11-03 18:22:21] RocketScience : took half profits in fiat...i'll be back in 2 months
[2016-11-03 18:22:23] rapidtrades : guys long ur favorite anon currency
[2016-11-03 18:22:26] Apocalyptic : Testsuo :)
[2016-11-03 18:22:28] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: too scared to check if i cancel it for time
[2016-11-03 18:22:30] rapidtrades : clear winner in this mess
[2016-11-03 18:22:31] habibi : ;)
[2016-11-03 18:22:53] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: still hoping for 3 btc per zec? ;)
[2016-11-03 18:22:59] aethlios : so what's the news, any specific??
[2016-11-03 18:23:29] habibi : aethlios: china mm was so tired of ur 1000+ usd bullshit so he decided to dump
[2016-11-03 18:23:30] rapidtrades : aethlios: aliens mining bitcoin
[2016-11-03 18:23:35] y1uy : aethlios: china bitcoin news
[2016-11-03 18:23:35] wurstgelee : aethlios: nothing new. just dump
[2016-11-03 18:23:43] wurstgelee : lol..."news"
[2016-11-03 18:23:48] sleger : aethlios: pick your answer
[2016-11-03 18:24:02] rapidtrades : mine is the best
[2016-11-03 18:24:04] y1uy : aethlios: rumours china will regulate bitcoin
[2016-11-03 18:24:05] RoftheN : MM?
[2016-11-03 18:24:21] wurstgelee : ok, got rid of half my knife for some win, holding the other half
[2016-11-03 18:24:29] RoftheN : How would they regulate Bitcoin lol? And it sounds like a bad thing, but wouldn't it actually increase the price
[2016-11-03 18:24:46] y1uy : RoftheN: nope, will decrease demand in china for capital flight
[2016-11-03 18:24:49] rapidtrades : well is it increasing the price?
[2016-11-03 18:24:52] wurstgelee : RoftheN: they cant unless they attack the network. but they can regulate usage in china
[2016-11-03 18:24:59] aethlios : except ZH article nothong else???
[2016-11-03 18:25:07] wurstgelee : aethlios: nope
[2016-11-03 18:25:11] wurstgelee : just random dump
[2016-11-03 18:25:13] tb : did that 400k bid get filled?
[2016-11-03 18:25:15] javierstone : ECB said same thing a few weeks ago and ppl go spooked adn then forgot about it
[2016-11-03 18:25:19] lockhedge : aethlios: confirmed bloomberg source
[2016-11-03 18:25:23] rapidtrades : we can't find anything but HK says bloomberg
[2016-11-03 18:25:23] y1uy : we'll have to see how rebellios the chinese are
[2016-11-03 18:25:28] Apocalyptic : aethlios, allegedly a bloomberg terminal screenshot of the news
[2016-11-03 18:25:36] rapidtrades : lockhedge: where is it then
[2016-11-03 18:25:46] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: a screenshot?
[2016-11-03 18:25:54] wurstgelee : that is all?
[2016-11-03 18:25:57] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-03 18:26:01] lockhedge : http://imgur.com/a/3qoUC
[2016-11-03 18:26:05] y1uy : possible to change trollbox username?
[2016-11-03 18:26:06] RoftheN : FUCK MY buyorders don't get hit, none of them, so unfair
[2016-11-03 18:26:16] wurstgelee : i should start making some bitcoin news, lemme just fire up ohtoshop...
[2016-11-03 18:26:26] wurstgelee : photoshop
[2016-11-03 18:26:30] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: what lockhedge posted
[2016-11-03 18:26:34] Apocalyptic : possibly
[2016-11-03 18:26:44] rapidtrades : lockhedge: tnx
[2016-11-03 18:26:45] rapidtrades : so its srs
[2016-11-03 18:26:56] Apocalyptic : srs bzns
[2016-11-03 18:26:58] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: if thats the only source, this is ridiculous...
[2016-11-03 18:27:00] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 18:27:10] rapidtrades : it's f*cking bloomberg
[2016-11-03 18:27:26] wurstgelee : so what?
[2016-11-03 18:27:33] javierstone : this feels fake
[2016-11-03 18:27:44] wurstgelee : javierstone: my first impression too
[2016-11-03 18:27:48] Apocalyptic : the market seems to take it pretty seriously
[2016-11-03 18:27:48] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: it's the top financial media
[2016-11-03 18:27:52] y1uy : any idea when they release the news publicly?
[2016-11-03 18:27:53] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: as if media doesnt fall for a hoax...
[2016-11-03 18:27:59] wurstgelee : nvm if top media or not
[2016-11-03 18:28:09] wurstgelee : i dont say it is one
[2016-11-03 18:28:18] wurstgelee : i just say that a screenshot as only source is ridiculous
[2016-11-03 18:28:51] sleger : it IS on bloomberg
[2016-11-03 18:28:54] javierstone : where
[2016-11-03 18:29:00] sleger : not just a screenshot
[2016-11-03 18:29:36] Apocalyptic : must have bloomberg terminal access for sure
[2016-11-03 18:29:44] rapidtrades : this is not as srs as previous bans
[2016-11-03 18:30:05] +1 : rapidtrades: but i cant find it on bloomberg.com
[2016-11-03 18:30:06] rapidtrades : the drop i mean...prolly cos they're just adding limits not banning them from the system
[2016-11-03 18:30:19] rapidtrades : +1: it usually goes on the terminal first
[2016-11-03 18:30:52] MrRGnome : lol as I am deleveraging my ADL shoots to max, wat?
[2016-11-03 18:30:58] aethlios : I will try to buy 3 month okcoin, sell biweekly, buy the spread cheap.
[2016-11-03 18:31:02] wurstgelee : as long as it isnt visible on .com, i assume its bullshit
[2016-11-03 18:31:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 18:31:48] wurstgelee : zero bouncin attempt....out
[2016-11-03 18:31:54] wurstgelee : preparing for lower knifes
[2016-11-03 18:32:32] wurstgelee : 4700 might hold but 2 much risk atm imo
[2016-11-03 18:32:36] rapidtrades : support ur favorite anoncoin in his troubling times
[2016-11-03 18:32:47] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: still long my leftover zec contracts
[2016-11-03 18:32:53] rapidtrades : god help us everyone, and zcash ofc
[2016-11-03 18:32:58] wurstgelee : expecting adl any minute ;)
[2016-11-03 18:33:01] RoftheN : So when is the ZEC change thingy
[2016-11-03 18:33:09] wurstgelee : RoftheN: tomorrow 12 utc iirc
[2016-11-03 18:33:10] RoftheN : in how many hours?
[2016-11-03 18:33:17] wurstgelee : would be ~ 18
[2016-11-03 18:33:19] wurstgelee : hours
[2016-11-03 18:33:24] wurstgelee : 17.5
[2016-11-03 18:33:26] RoftheN : Thanks
[2016-11-03 18:33:31] wurstgelee : IF 12 utc is correct
[2016-11-03 18:34:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 36000 @ 74290
[2016-11-03 18:34:28] rapidtrades : i decided to wait for my technical exit...hope i don't get r*ped
[2016-11-03 18:35:08] sleger : WTF i got ADL'ed way above the mark price by the MM
[2016-11-03 18:35:13] sleger : on XBJ24H
[2016-11-03 18:35:33] wurstgelee : wait..thats possible?
[2016-11-03 18:35:37] rapidtrades : is that good or bad
[2016-11-03 18:35:40] wurstgelee : bad
[2016-11-03 18:35:45] wurstgelee : he is obviously short
[2016-11-03 18:35:50] wurstgelee : if he gets ADL now
[2016-11-03 18:35:51] habibi : i guess power of illiquid japanese exchange
[2016-11-03 18:35:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 18:36:08] sleger : I did that : XBJ24H 6000 -6000 0 72426 and got that immediately : XBJ24H 17999 17999 0 73975
[2016-11-03 18:36:24] j8 : sleger: i saw something weird like that on XBJZ16, maybe because it's marked to last and not frequent trades
[2016-11-03 18:36:27] rapidtrades : that sucks
[2016-11-03 18:36:34] shiroe : it keeps falling, i cant even long. haha staying away from it.
[2016-11-03 18:36:34] wurstgelee : lol wtf is that?
[2016-11-03 18:36:45] sleger : Admin, how can I buy at 73975 ??
[2016-11-03 18:37:30] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: ?
[2016-11-03 18:37:34] rapidtrades : dam premium on dec got annihilated
[2016-11-03 18:37:47] wurstgelee : moar down
[2016-11-03 18:37:48] rapidtrades : $50 >$14
[2016-11-03 18:37:53] numero : I feel like I'm learning to fly a plane by pressing random buttons xD
[2016-11-03 18:37:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 690.33
[2016-11-03 18:37:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 690.31
[2016-11-03 18:37:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 690.53
[2016-11-03 18:38:05] sleger : how is that price possible REKT: Liquidated long on XBJ24H: Sell 36000 @ 74290 ?
[2016-11-03 18:38:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 689.31
[2016-11-03 18:38:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15 @ 688.39
[2016-11-03 18:38:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2250 @ 688.24
[2016-11-03 18:38:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1500 @ 688.13
[2016-11-03 18:38:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 41 @ 688.28
[2016-11-03 18:38:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 687.85
[2016-11-03 18:38:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1000 @ 709.37
[2016-11-03 18:38:40] shiroe : sleger: "syste,"
[2016-11-03 18:38:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 686.81
[2016-11-03 18:38:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1550 @ 687.76
[2016-11-03 18:38:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9 @ 686.64
[2016-11-03 18:38:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 687.63
[2016-11-03 18:38:43] Cryptlex : ouch
[2016-11-03 18:38:45] shiroe : system. lol
[2016-11-03 18:38:49] wurstgelee : ......
[2016-11-03 18:38:50] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-03 18:39:13] NL007 : More Rekking
[2016-11-03 18:39:24] shiroe : 666 incoming.
[2016-11-03 18:39:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: Buy 3 @ 0.00001184
[2016-11-03 18:39:46] lockhedge : 36 seconds timeout @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-11-03 18:39:59] wurstgelee : okc clearly leading this pump...
[2016-11-03 18:40:00] wurstgelee : erm dump
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] NL007 : numero: stop pushing buttons xd
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 683.41
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2100 @ 683.53
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2734 @ 685.84
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 684.20
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 683.50
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5500 @ 683.84
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 20000 @ 705.32 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 500 @ 705.49
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 87930 @ 704.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-03 18:40:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1000 @ 706.44
[2016-11-03 18:40:35] NL007 : wow
[2016-11-03 18:40:37] tb : is liquidation engine delayed?
[2016-11-03 18:40:39] tb : I think it is
[2016-11-03 18:40:46] rapidtrades : so much pair
[2016-11-03 18:40:52] rapidtrades : pain
[2016-11-03 18:40:57] wurstgelee : tb: yep
[2016-11-03 18:41:04] wurstgelee : bitmex completely overloaded
[2016-11-03 18:41:05] wurstgelee : atm
[2016-11-03 18:41:18] tb : poor people who are adled get alded at bankruptcy price?
[2016-11-03 18:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7267 @ 680.62
[2016-11-03 18:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 680.50
[2016-11-03 18:41:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5500 @ 681.47
[2016-11-03 18:41:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1530 @ 681.13
[2016-11-03 18:42:07] javierstone : bloodsherd
[2016-11-03 18:42:10] javierstone : bloodshed
[2016-11-03 18:42:11] TwinnerD : woah
[2016-11-03 18:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 77500 @ 678.10 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-03 18:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 678.33
[2016-11-03 18:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 677.95
[2016-11-03 18:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 679.09
[2016-11-03 18:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 5 @ 699.31
[2016-11-03 18:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 492 @ 678.15
[2016-11-03 18:42:50] shiroe : 4500 aka 666. soon.
[2016-11-03 18:43:00] NL007 : everybody was betting long to 800
[2016-11-03 18:43:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.007531
[2016-11-03 18:43:08] wurstgelee : woooohoooo
[2016-11-03 18:43:09] tb : not everyone
[2016-11-03 18:43:18] martinium : congrats to shorts
[2016-11-03 18:43:26] rapidtrades : if i have a position on fixed, that will be protected in case my account gets margined on cross mode?
[2016-11-03 18:43:27] NL007 : tb: almost everybody xd
[2016-11-03 18:43:57] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-03 18:44:00] wurstgelee : knife @ 677
[2016-11-03 18:44:03] wurstgelee : lets see....
[2016-11-03 18:44:16] NL007 : getting ugly
[2016-11-03 18:44:37] wurstgelee : if 4600 goes down for good too....yep
[2016-11-03 18:45:00] rapidtrades : guys? if i have a position on fixed, that will be protected in case my account gets margined on cross mode?
[2016-11-03 18:45:08] sleger : no
[2016-11-03 18:45:19] sleger : hmm actually i dont know
[2016-11-03 18:45:34] rapidtrades : dam this ZEC trade is sucking my margin
[2016-11-03 18:45:52] habibi : rapidtrades: how much u need rapidtrades
[2016-11-03 18:45:56] CaptainDean : Ho well, first trade I make since like 6 weeks
[2016-11-03 18:45:57] rapidtrades : dunno why they take so much when most I can lose is 0.5 per contract
[2016-11-03 18:46:08] rapidtrades : they reserved 1.5
[2016-11-03 18:46:14] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: you longed @ 3 and most u can lose i .5?
[2016-11-03 18:46:15] CaptainDean : went long @ 708 and i didn't seel @ 716
[2016-11-03 18:46:18] CaptainDean : LOL@me
[2016-11-03 18:46:25] martinium : rapidtrades: if isolated only that will be used rest of account safe
[2016-11-03 18:46:28] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: ;)
[2016-11-03 18:46:34] ayy_lmao : cuckcoin
[2016-11-03 18:46:38] wurstgelee : NOW BOUNCE FOR ME
[2016-11-03 18:46:43] atodorov07 : what a nice day for trading
[2016-11-03 18:46:43] mjones : damn china
[2016-11-03 18:46:44] wurstgelee : btc, no u
[2016-11-03 18:46:49] wurstgelee : *t
[2016-11-03 18:46:57] mjones : could have longed lower
[2016-11-03 18:46:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 684.09
[2016-11-03 18:47:01] rapidtrades : are there no admins here
[2016-11-03 18:47:10] Apocalyptic : atodorov07: certainly
[2016-11-03 18:47:14] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: hey sup
[2016-11-03 18:47:15] jeeburns : wow. I attempted to open an order at 682 and it gave it to me at 688 and instantly margin called me
[2016-11-03 18:47:20] Apocalyptic : have missed such volatility on XBT
[2016-11-03 18:47:23] ayy_lmao : market?
[2016-11-03 18:47:30] aethlios : cancel stucks a bit
[2016-11-03 18:47:30] TwinnerD : jeeburns: market?
[2016-11-03 18:47:37] rapidtrades : Greg, if i have a position on fixed, will that be protected in case my account gets margined on cross mode?
[2016-11-03 18:47:41] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: You want to be on cross margin if you want all available margin to be used to aid in liquidations
[2016-11-03 18:47:44] jeeburns : TwinnerD: yes, but there was a big order sitting there the whole time.
[2016-11-03 18:47:47] BitMEX_Greg : (i.e. all the way to the left on the slider)
[2016-11-03 18:47:52] mjones : never market open cause you get rekt most times
[2016-11-03 18:47:56] j8 : rapidtrades: of course it does, its "isolated margin"
[2016-11-03 18:47:59] rapidtrades : i just want my ZEC to be safe
[2016-11-03 18:48:01] jeeburns : it froze for like 5 secs then looked at my order and it was 688
[2016-11-03 18:48:04] aethlios : volume 25,000 btc.
[2016-11-03 18:48:04] TwinnerD : jeeburns: don't do that because of lags in high movement markets
[2016-11-03 18:48:10] rapidtrades : and margin the rest of my account :)
[2016-11-03 18:48:46] wurstgelee : never market buy.
[2016-11-03 18:48:57] wurstgelee : and NEVER market buy during shenenigans
[2016-11-03 18:49:08] martinium : bots going mad following the btccny
[2016-11-03 18:49:09] y1uy : how tf is bitfinex at $713
[2016-11-03 18:49:11] wurstgelee : especially with bitmex lagging
[2016-11-03 18:49:18] wurstgelee : currently
[2016-11-03 18:49:19] TwinnerD : y1uy: maintainence
[2016-11-03 18:49:20] sleger : y1uy: its strong
[2016-11-03 18:49:26] TwinnerD : y1uy: pretty funny actually
[2016-11-03 18:49:26] javierstone : lol
[2016-11-03 18:49:30] wurstgelee : sleger: hahaha
[2016-11-03 18:49:33] javierstone : 685 the bottom?
[2016-11-03 18:49:39] jeeburns : TwinnerD: yea lag was right. Now i have nothing to trade with and this is right where i wanted in, bs.
[2016-11-03 18:49:39] wurstgelee : finex btc best btc
[2016-11-03 18:49:49] shiroe : good seems bottom btc, ceiling eth.
[2016-11-03 18:50:06] rapidtrades : don't forget ZEC
[2016-11-03 18:50:08] BitMEX_Wally : Basically cross margin means the the position is on fixed margin but losses are topped automatically from the available balance. Cross margin cannot steal margin from other positions, but the liquidation price shown on cross margin is assuming that it can take all the available balance, so if you have 2 cross margin positions they'll both have liquidation prices that assume each other have no further losses
[2016-11-03 18:50:15] y1uy : zcash is just sleeping lol
[2016-11-03 18:50:20] numero : I think I might get PTSD, for real
[2016-11-03 18:50:40] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: I suggest for ZEC to choose 1x margin for a LONG, this means the position is fully funded and there will be NO liquidation price
[2016-11-03 18:50:45] y1uy : numero: got burned?
[2016-11-03 18:51:16] tb : if im short N contracts and place a bid for N contracts below the bid, why does that increase my risk limit?
[2016-11-03 18:52:17] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: no that's not what im asking....in caseI get a margin call on cross (which kills off my account to 0) is my position on isolated margin safe or will it get automatically liqed as well
[2016-11-03 18:52:46] TwinnerD : rapidtrades: its safe
[2016-11-03 18:52:53] TwinnerD : you can't ever steal margin
[2016-11-03 18:52:58] numero : y1uy: no, the swings are freaking me out
[2016-11-03 18:53:02] Rado : so $680 hit
[2016-11-03 18:53:05] rapidtrades : my ZEC is already over-funded with 0 chance of margin call
[2016-11-03 18:53:28] CaptainDean : so BTC next step is 4410 ?
[2016-11-03 18:53:33] javierstone : just tap it in
[2016-11-03 18:53:34] javierstone : tap it in
[2016-11-03 18:53:42] habibi : MM i call u for a fight at rep market!
[2016-11-03 18:54:05] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: 1x long on ZEC has a 0 liquidation price. You do not need to overfund that, for shorts then yes I suggest to use cross margin and over fund it
[2016-11-03 18:54:17] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: contacting them
[2016-11-03 18:54:24] javierstone : bounce
[2016-11-03 18:54:45] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: the ADL on XBJ24, which is lastpriceprotected, how can it happen at 73975 ?
[2016-11-03 18:54:55] tb : if im short N contracts and place a bid for N contracts below the bid, why does that increase my risk limit? @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-11-03 18:54:56] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: just found out about a 400 error message that says `Bad Request OrderID length must be 36 characters.` (i suppose because of a time out). is there a list with all error messages somewhere?
[2016-11-03 18:55:03] sleger : when the last trade was 72426
[2016-11-03 18:55:35] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: will have to look into it
[2016-11-03 18:55:35] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: We are preparing to publish that list, I can email it to you for now
[2016-11-03 18:56:10] Cryptlex : Whats the best way to offset/hedge the funding costs when long?
[2016-11-03 18:56:38] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Actually, that error was from the API not the engine, so I don't have the list yet
[2016-11-03 18:56:44] BitMEX_Greg : tb: Due to impact mid. You need to full fund a position if you buy above impact ask or sell below impact bid. Please see https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-11-03 18:56:44] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Greg: is bitmex price for BTCUSD recursive? as in does kaiko price in the current price here?
[2016-11-03 18:56:59] BitMEX_Greg : TwinnerD: kaiko uses Bitstamp and Okcoin
[2016-11-03 18:57:06] BitMEX_Greg : O.K coin USD
[2016-11-03 18:57:35] TwinnerD : thx
[2016-11-03 18:58:43] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: ok, would be great if you could compile one.
[2016-11-03 18:59:15] zanza : new record XBT volume day at BitMEX ?
[2016-11-03 19:00:25] wurstgelee : i checked that bloomber terminal screenshot again. it says "Officials will restrict moving coins offshore"
[2016-11-03 19:00:30] wurstgelee : how?
[2016-11-03 19:00:32] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-03 19:00:45] javierstone : also zerohedge headline says officials are "mulling"
[2016-11-03 19:00:54] wurstgelee : yeah....
[2016-11-03 19:00:55] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: idk
[2016-11-03 19:00:58] javierstone : like i've been "mulling" how to have a threesome with my gf
[2016-11-03 19:01:04] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: they cant ffs
[2016-11-03 19:01:07] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-03 19:01:19] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: damn chinese wan´t to own all my precious BTC
[2016-11-03 19:01:24] wurstgelee : how would you possibly do that?
[2016-11-03 19:01:29] rapidtrades : http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/11/03/chinese-government-impose-capital-controls-bitcoin-exchanges/
[2016-11-03 19:01:35] rapidtrades : sites is cancer
[2016-11-03 19:01:37] lockhedge : wurstgelee: the "are considering", so it actually means the a aware of the problem and don't know how to fix it.
[2016-11-03 19:01:38] sleger : wurstgelee: build a wall around China
[2016-11-03 19:01:51] wurstgelee : lockhedge: hehe yep
[2016-11-03 19:01:55] shiroe : going back 710? :P
[2016-11-03 19:01:56] wurstgelee : soooo bullshit
[2016-11-03 19:02:15] wurstgelee : theres nothing they can do to geographically tie bitcoin to one place
[2016-11-03 19:02:23] BitMEX_Sam : lockhedge: That error is not a timeout, it is simply a badly-formatted `orderID` that you sent
[2016-11-03 19:02:25] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-11-03 19:02:32] CaptainDean : my humble opinion is we are going down again
[2016-11-03 19:02:34] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: they could nuke all of their their people
[2016-11-03 19:02:37] CaptainDean : but who I am :P
[2016-11-03 19:02:39] CaptainDean : a newb
[2016-11-03 19:02:41] BitMEX_Sam : That should never happen normally, not the sort of thing you catch & fix
[2016-11-03 19:02:42] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: those offshore?
[2016-11-03 19:02:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 19:03:00] rapidtrades : is this the source http://finance.jrj.com.cn/2016/11/03155121660993.shtml
[2016-11-03 19:03:15] javierstone : that feels pretty shakey
[2016-11-03 19:03:19] javierstone : anonymous source
[2016-11-03 19:03:40] rapidtrades : they usually are
[2016-11-03 19:03:46] wurstgelee : no matter the source... even if it was real, which i dont think it is, its ridiculous
[2016-11-03 19:03:55] rapidtrades : 'people familiar with the matter'
[2016-11-03 19:04:32] Tetsuo : articel was probably created by okc or huobi : - )
[2016-11-03 19:04:36] javierstone : coinbase's coins take forever to show up now
[2016-11-03 19:04:46] javierstone : i fucking bought 3 coins last friday at 701
[2016-11-03 19:04:57] Tetsuo : i made so many news fake headlines in 2014, i even got quoted by some serious newspapers back tehn
[2016-11-03 19:04:59] javierstone : its hillarious how much of a journey hte market has gone on since then
[2016-11-03 19:05:14] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: yep...i think its bullshit
[2016-11-03 19:05:17] gladimor : I keep on getting "Order submission error: Executing at price would lead to immediate liquidation."
[2016-11-03 19:05:18] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: don't lie
[2016-11-03 19:05:20] wurstgelee : stakes are high these days