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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-11-03 15:36:38] rapidtrades : 1.32
[2016-11-03 15:36:40] thomaskikansha : alts just shooted up
[2016-11-03 15:36:43] TwinnerD : yes I am sure you need big winners to make money. get real
[2016-11-03 15:36:49] shiroe : still sliding, to 4800?
[2016-11-03 15:38:49] Rado : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/china-prepares-impose-curbs-capital-controls-bitcoin
[2016-11-03 15:38:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 22755 @ 716.39 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 15:38:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 716.51 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-03 15:39:00] thomaskikansha : China still dumping
[2016-11-03 15:39:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 500 @ 738.82
[2016-11-03 15:39:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1250 @ 738.68
[2016-11-03 15:39:06] zanza : damn i went 100x long at 750
[2016-11-03 15:39:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 6385 @ 737.29
[2016-11-03 15:39:27] zanza : bad investment
[2016-11-03 15:39:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 714.31
[2016-11-03 15:39:32] fml : bitcoin support broke TREND REVERSED ERMAGAWUD SELL SELL SELL
[2016-11-03 15:39:42] Rado : fml: shut up
[2016-11-03 15:39:51] fml : Rado: shut up
[2016-11-03 15:40:14] shiroe : ha 666 incoming. lol
[2016-11-03 15:40:29] fml : shit your fucking mouth your dirty pleb Rado!
[2016-11-03 15:40:35] rapidtrades : nah it likely stops at 700
[2016-11-03 15:40:35] sally : hahahaha
[2016-11-03 15:40:50] fml : fucking
[2016-11-03 15:40:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 713.54
[2016-11-03 15:40:57] fml : lol
[2016-11-03 15:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 12500 @ 736.35
[2016-11-03 15:41:10] sally : 500 incoming
[2016-11-03 15:41:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJZ16`: Sell 21 @ 77615
[2016-11-03 15:41:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6353 @ 713.38
[2016-11-03 15:41:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15208 @ 712.44
[2016-11-03 15:41:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 713.29 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-03 15:41:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 712.61
[2016-11-03 15:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14900 @ 709.44
[2016-11-03 15:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 709.29
[2016-11-03 15:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2200 @ 709.46
[2016-11-03 15:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10 @ 709.13
[2016-11-03 15:41:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 708.21
[2016-11-03 15:41:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 123886 @ 709.00 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-03 15:41:39] viptrader : fckkkkkk
[2016-11-03 15:41:43] viptrader : rekt
[2016-11-03 15:41:43] wurstgelee : lölz
[2016-11-03 15:41:43] rapidtrades : first stop reached...now let's see where it goes from here
[2016-11-03 15:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 54 @ 706.50
[2016-11-03 15:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1575 @ 708.11
[2016-11-03 15:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14500 @ 706.67
[2016-11-03 15:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13360 @ 707.47
[2016-11-03 15:41:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJZ16`: Sell 35000 @ 77399
[2016-11-03 15:41:52] thomaskikansha : thats sick
[2016-11-03 15:42:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 705.65
[2016-11-03 15:42:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 705.35
[2016-11-03 15:42:07] fml : REKT
[2016-11-03 15:42:10] fml : REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKT
[2016-11-03 15:42:38] habibi : eth market maker come back
[2016-11-03 15:42:44] rapidtrades : zec 1.35 on polo ur missing out
[2016-11-03 15:43:02] wurstgelee : habibi: ;)
[2016-11-03 15:43:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.007322
[2016-11-03 15:43:15] sally : ok where are the mods I need help with this site
[2016-11-03 15:43:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ7D`: Sell 7 @ 74842
[2016-11-03 15:43:35] rapidtrades : ZEC 1.38....buy now or cry later imo
[2016-11-03 15:44:18] y1uy : that dump was beautiful
[2016-11-03 15:44:21] sledger : this site is so slow
[2016-11-03 15:44:31] y1uy : sledger: works well for me
[2016-11-03 15:44:34] rapidtrades : sledger: still running win95 eh?
[2016-11-03 15:44:39] dasdfasdf : Load makes this plgotform worthless
[2016-11-03 15:44:46] habibi : sledger: problems with loading orderbooks and order comfirming while price action?
[2016-11-03 15:44:50] wurstgelee : not done yet
[2016-11-03 15:44:54] wurstgelee : huobi below okc now
[2016-11-03 15:44:55] thomaskikansha : alts rocketing
[2016-11-03 15:44:56] sledger : yes placing order is so slow
[2016-11-03 15:44:59] Bacon futures trader : lmao I ajust leverage and get liquidated
[2016-11-03 15:45:02] viptrader : lost all my btc
[2016-11-03 15:45:07] viptrader : thanks bitcoin
[2016-11-03 15:45:09] habibi : viptrader: see ya! :D
[2016-11-03 15:45:11] viptrader : never touching it again
[2016-11-03 15:45:11] sledger : when people get rekt it is almost frozen
[2016-11-03 15:45:15] viptrader : it was nice
[2016-11-03 15:45:16] Bacon futures trader : how much u lose
[2016-11-03 15:45:23] habibi : sledger: yea i thought its only on my side somehow
[2016-11-03 15:45:25] wurstgelee : dude...u go all in a long during a dump?
[2016-11-03 15:45:28] rapidtrades : 1.42 ZEC
[2016-11-03 15:45:30] viptrader : 10, all my btc
[2016-11-03 15:45:30] wurstgelee : ...
[2016-11-03 15:45:31] dasdfasdf : Bacon futures trader: this
[2016-11-03 15:45:35] TwinnerD : viptrader: lol noob
[2016-11-03 15:45:37] Bacon futures trader : dang
[2016-11-03 15:45:40] rapidtrades : ZEC 1.48....
[2016-11-03 15:45:51] habibi : viptrader: go to work, buy more bitcoins and deliver it here again please
[2016-11-03 15:45:58] habibi : viptrader: thank u for ur money
[2016-11-03 15:46:01] viptrader : starving student now
[2016-11-03 15:46:01] thomaskikansha : ZEC such an easy long
[2016-11-03 15:46:02] rapidtrades : bitcoin dump over, time to focus on ZEC guys
[2016-11-03 15:46:14] sledger : viptrader: next time get a more modest nickname
[2016-11-03 15:46:17] zecz : ZECZ on fire
[2016-11-03 15:46:18] viptrader : rekt, dont have money to pay uni anymore
[2016-11-03 15:46:20] viptrader : such rekt
[2016-11-03 15:46:28] habibi : viptrader: good
[2016-11-03 15:46:38] zecz : with the new marking tomorrow I going to short at 1-1,5 :D
[2016-11-03 15:46:46] rapidtrades : habibi: don't be an ahole
[2016-11-03 15:47:02] lopol : zecz: price wont be so high
[2016-11-03 15:47:06] sally : zec + bitmex= perfect scam
[2016-11-03 15:47:23] habibi : rapidtrades: i am not
[2016-11-03 15:47:27] zecz : it will because off the new PNL calc
[2016-11-03 15:47:35] Rado : filled some longs for a scalp
[2016-11-03 15:47:37] rapidtrades : habibi: ur like the worst person in here
[2016-11-03 15:47:48] zecz : if u short at these levels you will get an instant big PNL lose
[2016-11-03 15:48:03] lopol : zecz: no
[2016-11-03 15:48:20] Bacon futures trader : My long got liquidaed at 700 can someone explain me how that is possible
[2016-11-03 15:48:20] lopol : bitmex has annonuced that mark price wont change
[2016-11-03 15:48:28] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/china-prepares-impose-curbs-capital-controls-bitcoin
[2016-11-03 15:48:32] zecz : where?
[2016-11-03 15:48:42] lopol : read announcments
[2016-11-03 15:48:43] viptrader : send me some btc guys
[2016-11-03 15:48:43] Rado : Bacon futures trader: that is your bankruptcy price which includes insurance
[2016-11-03 15:48:44] viptrader : im rekt
[2016-11-03 15:48:57] TwinnerD : viptrader: no begging
[2016-11-03 15:48:58] habibi : rapidtrades: see? this is what happens when u nice to rekt people
[2016-11-03 15:49:01] NL007 : you got rekt
[2016-11-03 15:49:21] zecz : Effective Friday 4th November 12:00 UTC, the December Zcash Futures Contract, ZECZ16, will move from Last Price marking to Fair Price marking. The Index Price will reference the spot ZEC/BTC Poloniex price
[2016-11-03 15:49:33] Bacon futures trader : Rado: lol how does that even work. I was long 707 which is 2$ from the low and I get liquidated at 700
[2016-11-03 15:49:52] rapidtrades : cos u pay extra when u get liquidated
[2016-11-03 15:49:58] Rado : Bacon futures trader: how much of your balance did you invest?
[2016-11-03 15:50:06] Rado : liquidations are based on mark price
[2016-11-03 15:50:11] habibi : Bacon futures trader: first of all, don't listen to rado
[2016-11-03 15:50:17] Bacon futures trader : like -5%
[2016-11-03 15:50:25] rapidtrades : yes index was as low as 700
[2016-11-03 15:50:34] Bacon futures trader : Lmao what a scam
[2016-11-03 15:50:53] habibi : Bacon futures trader: don't call a scam site that u don't understand
[2016-11-03 15:50:54] sledger : Bacon futures trader: you and sally can discuss it on the plane to the seychelles
[2016-11-03 15:50:58] TwinnerD : 714 long now. thanks dumpers :D
[2016-11-03 15:51:01] habibi : sledger: :D
[2016-11-03 15:51:02] Rado : sledger: lol
[2016-11-03 15:51:16] wurstgelee : sledger: haha
[2016-11-03 15:51:18] Bacon futures trader : man it makes no sense
[2016-11-03 15:51:20] Rado : I am tired of hearing that this exchange is a scam
[2016-11-03 15:51:42] TwinnerD : Rado: its a scam. noobs lose moneay
[2016-11-03 15:51:47] BitMEX_Greg : Bacon futures trader: you are liquidated from Mark Price, did you receive an email explaining the liquidation?
[2016-11-03 15:52:10] Rado : TwinnerD: no one forced them to trade here
[2016-11-03 15:52:23] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Greg: you guys are way to nice btw. People here are unable to read terms.
[2016-11-03 15:52:28] lopol : BitMEX_Greg: can you confirm that tomorrow zec mark price wont be completely poloniex price?
[2016-11-03 15:52:31] TwinnerD : Rado: it was sarcasm
[2016-11-03 15:52:36] Rado : TwinnerD: :-)
[2016-11-03 15:52:44] rapidtrades : TwinnerD: smtimes the terms here don't matter :)
[2016-11-03 15:52:57] Bacon futures trader : BitMEX_Greg: no email yet
[2016-11-03 15:53:05] BitMEX_Greg : TwinnerD: We understand though there futures trading requires a lot of learning however
[2016-11-03 15:53:15] BitMEX_Greg : Bacon futures trader: Please check the email you signed up with to the exchange.
[2016-11-03 15:53:18] habibi : Bacon futures trader: could u got to coinbase, buy more bitcoin, deposit here and try again?>
[2016-11-03 15:53:36] Apocalyptic : lol
[2016-11-03 15:53:39] TwinnerD : rapidtrades: they actually do. I know you disagree with how ZEC was nhandled. But I was trading both sides and at no point I felt the rules changed from the start. The 10 BTC cap was known too. It was in the code since inception
[2016-11-03 15:54:02] rapidtrades : was it in the terms? no
[2016-11-03 15:54:09] BitMEX_Greg : lopol: The Index Price will reference Poloniex. The marking method will change from last price to Fair price. Please see: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/important-changes-zcash-futures-fair-price-marking/
[2016-11-03 15:54:15] TwinnerD : rapidtrades: it was in the "code". you could have tested it out
[2016-11-03 15:54:23] rapidtrades : ppl started posting about it 30 mins before we hit it
[2016-11-03 15:54:25] TwinnerD : rapidtrades: the limitation was here since ever
[2016-11-03 15:54:53] rapidtrades : TwinnerD: yeah cos that's what resonable ppl do, test how high they can put useless orders
[2016-11-03 15:55:22] NL007 : lopol: they cant confirm anything. the traders deceide the price.
[2016-11-03 15:55:25] TwinnerD : actually yes
[2016-11-03 15:55:31] rapidtrades : TwinnerD: ok then
[2016-11-03 15:55:43] javierstone : how is china going to control bitcoin flow
[2016-11-03 15:55:43] aethlios : nice volumes, nice moves, profit everywhere.
[2016-11-03 15:55:50] Rado : out on my swap scalp
[2016-11-03 15:55:56] Rado : still holding Dec 30
[2016-11-03 15:56:22] aethlios : now pump 3m okcoin to 850 no retrace and margin call shorts now......
[2016-11-03 15:57:14] TwinnerD : 730 before the end of day
[2016-11-03 15:57:25] rapidtrades : not gonna happen
[2016-11-03 15:57:33] TwinnerD : china loves the juicy 5k
[2016-11-03 15:57:33] Apocalyptic : ^
[2016-11-03 15:57:46] sledger : china banned bitcoin dummy
[2016-11-03 15:58:16] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/china-prepares-impose-curbs-capital-controls-bitcoin
[2016-11-03 15:58:19] Rado : sledger: banned is a little strong
[2016-11-03 15:58:28] shiroe : why thank the dumpsters? when it is the rekted peeps. lels
[2016-11-03 15:58:37] sledger : Rado: they will shoot anyone suspected of looking at bitcoin online
[2016-11-03 15:58:43] rapidtrades : According to Bloomberg sources, Chinese officials are considering policies including restricting domestic bitcoin exchanges from moving the cryptocurrency to platforms outside the nation and imposing quotas on the amount of bitcoins that can be sent abroad
[2016-11-03 15:58:46] rapidtrades : well shit
[2016-11-03 15:58:56] shiroe : recvoery to 4900 without volume, round 2 dump incoming to 4700
[2016-11-03 15:59:00] TwinnerD : if you guys believe this shit I can't help you
[2016-11-03 15:59:09] rapidtrades : it's bloomerg dummy
[2016-11-03 15:59:13] TwinnerD : is this your first time trading BTC?
[2016-11-03 15:59:26] Apocalyptic : a nice double top is shaping up
[2016-11-03 15:59:54] TwinnerD : "according to" and no link. Yes very trustworthy.
[2016-11-03 16:00:03] rapidtrades : yes can't find the link yet
[2016-11-03 16:00:19] rapidtrades : this is gonna skyrocket zcash if true
[2016-11-03 16:00:22] Rado : Zero hedge is a doom and gloom guy
[2016-11-03 16:00:28] rapidtrades : it's the prefferd anon currency
[2016-11-03 16:01:05] rapidtrades : use ur google skills and find the bloomberg story HZ is reffering to
[2016-11-03 16:01:38] TwinnerD : rapidtrades: how does a anon currency help you exchange for CNY for it?
[2016-11-03 16:01:49] TwinnerD : do you even apply logic to your chatting?
[2016-11-03 16:01:59] sledger : TwinnerD: you wear a mask when you exchange it dummy
[2016-11-03 16:02:05] sledger : that's what anon means
[2016-11-03 16:02:17] TwinnerD : oh you mean that 4chan hacker guy
[2016-11-03 16:02:50] rapidtrades : sledger: did u find it?
[2016-11-03 16:03:18] aethlios : this shit news, if real means that those politicians are really scared and btc beats their ass.
[2016-11-03 16:04:00] NL007 : aethlios: china & russia have banned btc by now 100 times
[2016-11-03 16:04:01] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-03 16:04:13] rapidtrades : not rly, no
[2016-11-03 16:04:15] aethlios : system every time we go to 1000, something happens, above 1000 will make headlines and many will buy.
[2016-11-03 16:04:33] rapidtrades : wow u ppl are delusional
[2016-11-03 16:05:29] aethlios : anyway okcoin futures is on hong kong, bitfinex hong kong, if they ban okcoin and huobi in china, black market will be used for rich to buy the coins from miners and send abroad.
[2016-11-03 16:05:55] TwinnerD : rapidtrades: there is no source because they havent published any BTC story for 12 hours. and even then its just rumours they heard
[2016-11-03 16:06:25] Rado : I agree with TwinnerD on this one
[2016-11-03 16:07:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 714.41
[2016-11-03 16:08:06] NL007 : as long as ank of china doesnt officially confirm it its nothing
[2016-11-03 16:08:14] habibi : can we have some kind of system here? for fees we paid we will receive some chat tokens and for that we will be able to buy banhammer for x user
[2016-11-03 16:08:24] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4875 @ 714.06
[2016-11-03 16:08:24] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 714.10
[2016-11-03 16:08:30] NL007 : seen many ban stories turn out not true
[2016-11-03 16:08:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25000 @ 712.48 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 16:10:51] Tetsuo : Fools in here called me a troll when i posted News about China Bitcoin ban a week ago
[2016-11-03 16:11:27] Tetsuo : They were already confirmed at that time by 2-3 other premium members
[2016-11-03 16:11:44] numero : BitMEX can be a really scary place sometimes
[2016-11-03 16:11:51] TwinnerD : if you believe ZH then you should buy guns and food and go into your bunker, because war is coming to the civilized world
[2016-11-03 16:11:51] shiroe : gooood gooood. Rekt those bots!
[2016-11-03 16:12:19] NL007 : Tetsuo: china isnt banning it but considering restrictions on capital flow via Bitcoin
[2016-11-03 16:12:38] aethlios : zerohedge shorts 780, makes the news, covers from the dump. easy 250,000 usd profit
[2016-11-03 16:12:40] Rado : NL007: there is no official source yet
[2016-11-03 16:12:47] MrRGnome : Any admins online?
[2016-11-03 16:12:50] Rado : aethlios: probably
[2016-11-03 16:12:55] NL007 : Rado: no there isnt
[2016-11-03 16:13:22] Rado : I would do it if I had that many readers
[2016-11-03 16:13:25] numero : aethlios: lol, ZH doesn't have that kind of impact
[2016-11-03 16:13:31] numero : does it?
[2016-11-03 16:13:33] Rado : he can now post that the source was shady and buy long
[2016-11-03 16:13:34] Rado : lol
[2016-11-03 16:13:42] Rado : numero: he does
[2016-11-03 16:13:57] Apocalyptic : TwinnerD: exactly, but there is some worthy stuff there not covered by other media sometimes
[2016-11-03 16:14:06] Tetsuo : MrRGnome: They got banned and arrested, this place is a Ghost Town. Truly decentralized
[2016-11-03 16:14:28] Rado : numero: https://www.quantcast.com/zerohedge.com
[2016-11-03 16:14:34] TwinnerD : Apocalyptic: I am not saying that the blog is complete garbage. But if you take all "news" for truth, you will make very bad decisions
[2016-11-03 16:14:44] sledger : Tetsuo: they did impose a 10years cap on their sentence though
[2016-11-03 16:15:01] numero : Rado: interesting
[2016-11-03 16:15:13] aethlios : above 20,000 btc volume bitmex!! well done traders.
[2016-11-03 16:15:35] Rado : aethlios: I see 17k volume
[2016-11-03 16:15:41] Rado : but yes well done
[2016-11-03 16:15:53] aethlios : +3month
[2016-11-03 16:15:59] Apocalyptic : sledger: 9/10
[2016-11-03 16:16:01] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: Hi
[2016-11-03 16:16:17] Tetsuo : Chinese Agent
[2016-11-03 16:16:26] Tetsuo : Be careful
[2016-11-03 16:16:34] Tetsuo : Don't Talk to him
[2016-11-03 16:16:48] Kahir : BitMEX_Greg: what will happen to open contracts on zcash on 12 utc tommorrow
[2016-11-03 16:16:58] TwinnerD : BFX moved downtime for 30 minutes
[2016-11-03 16:17:08] BitMEX_Greg : Kahir: The only thing that is happening is a change from Last price marking to Fair Price Marking
[2016-11-03 16:17:12] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Greg: Just looking for a final clarification since the responses I have had have all been followed by "probably". Will there be any settlement fees on instruments changing from swap to futures?
[2016-11-03 16:17:16] Tetsuo : TwinnerD: lololol, really?
[2016-11-03 16:17:17] BitMEX_Greg : Kahir: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/important-changes-zcash-futures-fair-price-marking/
[2016-11-03 16:17:27] TwinnerD : Tetsuo: as in, it will start later
[2016-11-03 16:17:43] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: I need to find out, will get back to you on this
[2016-11-03 16:17:53] Kahir : BitMEX_Greg: The Index Price will reference the spot ZEC/BTC Poloniex price.
[2016-11-03 16:18:22] Kahir : this mean it will run like another markets ?
[2016-11-03 16:18:28] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Greg: Been waiting for a proper answer for 10 days, not really acceptable if the answer is "there will be settlement fees
[2016-11-03 16:18:44] BitMEX_Greg : Kahir: Yes
[2016-11-03 16:20:49] y1uy : btc drop was imminent
[2016-11-03 16:21:15] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: There will be no fee on the settlement of the swaps, nor will there be funding charged for that closing period. The settlement price will be a 30min TWAP. You can double check this in the settlement fee column in the Instrument Table on the Trade page
[2016-11-03 16:21:17] thomaskikansha : zec pump continues
[2016-11-03 16:21:32] y1uy : nobody is trading zec on bitmex
[2016-11-03 16:22:00] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Greg: Thank you!
[2016-11-03 16:22:15] sledger : BitMEX_Greg: should post it in announcements
[2016-11-03 16:22:24] BitMEX_Greg : sledger: Yeah I'll get on it
[2016-11-03 16:24:06] martinium : damn my impatience got me uber rekt
[2016-11-03 16:25:05] rapidtrades : sledger: are u taking the ban srsly?
[2016-11-03 16:25:26] sledger : 75%
[2016-11-03 16:27:28] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: can u add a Liqudation price in the calculator
[2016-11-03 16:28:51] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: I'll bring it up with the guys, would need a leverage selector / margin in there too which could just make it more complicated
[2016-11-03 16:29:15] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: ok tnx
[2016-11-03 16:29:36] kradiav : BitMEX_Greg: it can use the already selected one, couldn't it?
[2016-11-03 16:30:54] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: @kradiav I've been told it's in the works
[2016-11-03 16:30:56] sledger : martinium: good riddance
[2016-11-03 16:31:09] kradiav : nice
[2016-11-03 16:33:48] martinium : sledger: kiss my ass
[2016-11-03 16:33:51] martinium : :-p
[2016-11-03 16:33:58] sledger : bye bye friend
[2016-11-03 16:34:24] sledger : let me know which street corner you seat at so i can drop a penny in your hat
[2016-11-03 16:34:33] martinium : haha
[2016-11-03 16:34:45] martinium : ruthless jokes
[2016-11-03 16:34:58] martinium : but whatever I will recover
[2016-11-03 16:35:01] AudibleScience : if china bans bitcoin, wouldn't it restrict supply in a big way and put a tremendous upward pressure on the price?
[2016-11-03 16:35:19] sledger : i was being nice, offering a penny for free...
[2016-11-03 16:35:34] MrRGnome : Sounds pretty generous to me. There was a point about a week ago when eth had me ready to hit the street corner.
[2016-11-03 16:35:48] MrRGnome : I would have welcomed that penny and a hat to hold it in
[2016-11-03 16:35:59] rapidtrades : AudibleScience: it would put pressure on demand too
[2016-11-03 16:36:10] martinium : if they penny were at least 1 btc that would be a good penny
[2016-11-03 16:36:17] martinium : but I assume we mean fiat
[2016-11-03 16:36:42] martinium : i never ask anyone for handouts just not my style
[2016-11-03 16:36:53] martinium : always get on my feet on my own
[2016-11-03 16:37:13] martinium : should have market sold when I had the chance
[2016-11-03 16:37:16] MrRGnome : I beg and plead and have no shame
[2016-11-03 16:37:21] habibi : martinium: u talking too much, stop please
[2016-11-03 16:37:37] MrRGnome : habibi: Don't talk to my friends that way, JERK!
[2016-11-03 16:37:53] MrRGnome : martinium: (we're friends now)
[2016-11-03 16:38:17] habibi : MrRGnome: thx for remind, i need to jerk off
[2016-11-03 16:38:21] martinium : MrRGnome: cool with me
[2016-11-03 16:38:25] rapidtrades : let's do a poll....1 for china ban is srs, 0 for not
[2016-11-03 16:38:38] habibi : 10
[2016-11-03 16:38:39] MrRGnome : It's hard to take China seriously, can someone link me to ana rticle?
[2016-11-03 16:39:13] martinium : nothing on google
[2016-11-03 16:39:33] rapidtrades : only that ZH link above citing bloomberg
[2016-11-03 16:39:57] MrRGnome : Then 0.
[2016-11-03 16:40:22] MrRGnome : Every other fake ban has been better sourced than this one
[2016-11-03 16:40:42] CaptainDean : 0
[2016-11-03 16:41:38] Apocalyptic : I find it kind of weird that they wouldn't link the bloomberg article, they usually link to stuff
[2016-11-03 16:42:53] MrRGnome : I really hope it's real. I've got too much eth to reasonably offload and I need to carry it to settlement, so a sustained btc drop due to this fear would be great in my books
[2016-11-03 16:43:33] Apocalyptic : MrRGnome: your mistake was longing eth in the first place
[2016-11-03 16:43:44] MrRGnome : Apocalyptic: I made it work, I didn't lose any money.
[2016-11-03 16:43:49] MrRGnome : In fact I made a good bit
[2016-11-03 16:43:53] rapidtrades : zcash spiking agian...likes to restest 2
[2016-11-03 16:43:54] Apocalyptic : good for you
[2016-11-03 16:44:15] MrRGnome : Apocalyptic: But you are right, it was a mistake.
[2016-11-03 16:44:28] Apocalyptic : well if you made money it was right
[2016-11-03 16:44:54] MrRGnome : I didn't make that money with risk levels I was comfortable with. It was an anxious week.
[2016-11-03 16:45:21] MrRGnome : I really needed those bounces around 0.01380 or I was boned
[2016-11-03 16:45:31] martinium : yeah overrisking = doom
[2016-11-03 16:46:15] martinium : we can potentially retest 682 based on Daily chart
[2016-11-03 16:46:26] rapidtrades : can't fins anything
[2016-11-03 16:46:39] rapidtrades : guess we'll see if its true when exchanges sart imposing lim
[2016-11-03 16:46:54] rapidtrades : its
[2016-11-03 16:46:56] wurstgelee : high risk is fine. just needs position sizing accordingly.
[2016-11-03 16:47:01] rapidtrades : laaaag
[2016-11-03 16:47:18] wurstgelee : if u all in long during a dump 50x, rekt is deserved
[2016-11-03 16:48:19] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 510 @ 709.93
[2016-11-03 16:48:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 140 @ 709.70
[2016-11-03 16:49:38] numero : 1, eventually
[2016-11-03 16:51:59] martinium : Rado: You were 100% right on your call
[2016-11-03 16:52:43] shiroe : 666 retest
[2016-11-03 16:52:45] shiroe : ;p;
[2016-11-03 16:52:57] habibi : martinium: could u stop licking his ass? its already clean
[2016-11-03 16:53:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.001274
[2016-11-03 16:53:14] martinium : habibi: go suck a dick
[2016-11-03 16:53:42] numero : please stop fighting, you gluttonous cats
[2016-11-03 16:53:45] martinium : habibi: or go fuck a goat you guys love that in your part of the world
[2016-11-03 16:54:11] sledger : what's wrong with that guy, did he get rekt or what ?
[2016-11-03 16:54:25] wurstgelee : stop the insults you mostly useless chimps
[2016-11-03 16:54:33] martinium : boom
[2016-11-03 16:54:36] habibi : martinium: don't be asshole! behave please :)
[2016-11-03 16:54:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-03 16:54:49] martinium : habibi: ;)
[2016-11-03 16:55:06] khessabi2 : Where is market maker on ETC bitmex?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...bullshit spread....hire some proper jew market maker..thx
[2016-11-03 16:55:25] Apocalyptic : lolk
[2016-11-03 16:55:44] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-03 16:55:54] zanza : dont be racist khessabi2
[2016-11-03 16:56:12] khessabi2 : zanza: I'm not !! :/
[2016-11-03 16:56:25] wurstgelee : .....
[2016-11-03 16:56:26] zanza : you can market make and earn rebate
[2016-11-03 16:56:29] zanza : if the spread is high
[2016-11-03 16:56:38] wurstgelee : yep. just MM yourself
[2016-11-03 16:56:45] khessabi2 : jus say hire some expert...bitmex has lack of liquidity on some market
[2016-11-03 16:56:47] sledger : spread is good enough
[2016-11-03 16:57:05] rapidtrades : he's just saying that jews have money.....from all that controlling of the banks&media
[2016-11-03 16:57:06] khessabi2 : zanza: I don't have that much money
[2016-11-03 16:57:20] rapidtrades : hence the jew need
[2016-11-03 16:57:45] khessabi2 : sledger: now they fixed it....it was 146 a minute ago
[2016-11-03 16:58:29] rapidtrades : market is not taking the ban that seriously
[2016-11-03 16:58:33] MrRGnome : khessabi2: See? Complaining works! Everyone complain and you'll magically get what you want!
[2016-11-03 16:58:50] sledger : yes price is only down 30$ or 4%
[2016-11-03 16:58:50] shiroe : eth is still cheap here. good one.
[2016-11-03 16:58:50] khessabi2 : MrRGnome: lol
[2016-11-03 16:59:09] rapidtrades : sledger: yes, peanuts
[2016-11-03 16:59:18] sledger : tell that to martinium lol
[2016-11-03 16:59:45] rapidtrades : martinium: yes, peanuts
[2016-11-03 16:59:51] MrRGnome : china looks like it is threatening a nother dip on btc
[2016-11-03 17:03:41] rapidtrades : ok so if I'm on fixed margin....then I want to add to that position, do i hve to post extra margin or will bitmex take it from my fixed margin of the already opened trade
[2016-11-03 17:05:41] zanza : u mean isolated?
[2016-11-03 17:05:46] zanza : or cross
[2016-11-03 17:05:54] rapidtrades : isolated
[2016-11-03 17:05:59] zanza : you change your leverage
[2016-11-03 17:06:08] rapidtrades : yeah that's not helpful
[2016-11-03 17:06:11] zanza : you lower your leverage
[2016-11-03 17:06:23] rapidtrades : i changed back to cross this is too confusing
[2016-11-03 17:06:26] zanza : it will increase your maint margin and reducey our liq price
[2016-11-03 17:07:33] TwinnerD : rapidtrades: you can add margin to the margin already dedicated. no sure what you mean "take it from my fixed margin". It will just add it
[2016-11-03 17:07:39] TwinnerD : you can also reduce the margin
[2016-11-03 17:10:54] rapidtrades : ok so if im long from 3 and now at 2/1 margin....then why don't i have a liquidation price
[2016-11-03 17:11:39] rapidtrades : i guess it's draning the losses from my account not the margin?
[2016-11-03 17:12:47] TwinnerD : if you have more margin in your account than the current price is in a long position. how could you get liquidated? And yes, it always draws the losses from your margin in fixed more
[2016-11-03 17:13:36] rapidtrades : so in fixed 2/1 it will drain the loss from the margin
[2016-11-03 17:13:51] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Whenever you adjust leverage it first fills in losses from your account, and then resets the initial margin to be 1/leverage
[2016-11-03 17:14:29] rapidtrades : not sure I understand...i just switched from cross to 2/1 on ZEC
[2016-11-03 17:14:29] sledger : http://imgur.com/a/3qoUC
[2016-11-03 17:14:31] BitMEX_Wally : So if you have 1 XBT position with 0.2 unrealised loss and you set 2x then you will have 0.7 margin allocated to it in total
[2016-11-03 17:14:45] BitMEX_Wally : 0.2 + 1/2
[2016-11-03 17:14:46] sledger : let's say he bot ZEC @ 3
[2016-11-03 17:14:56] rapidtrades : yeah we can say that :)
[2016-11-03 17:14:57] sledger : just imagine
[2016-11-03 17:15:03] BitMEX_Wally : All margin calculations are done based on the avgEntryPrice
[2016-11-03 17:15:32] BitMEX_Greg : sledger: I wonder how they will restrict local exchanges to move Bitcoin
[2016-11-03 17:15:38] BitMEX_Greg : and what impact that will have on arbitrage
[2016-11-03 17:15:55] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: i dont think it's possible unless people cant withdraw btc from exchanges
[2016-11-03 17:16:02] rapidtrades : because i was on cross earlier, it drained the loss from my account but kept the 1.5 margin inpact ...would this be accurate? @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-11-03 17:16:08] sleger : that's why i'm buying...
[2016-11-03 17:16:08] BitMEX_Wally : sleger returns!
[2016-11-03 17:16:20] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: good buying opportunity?
[2016-11-03 17:16:44] sleger : im buying, but then again i shorted zec @ 0.1 (rapid no comment, you bot @ 3)
[2016-11-03 17:16:46] BitMEX_Greg : It sounds like FUD, none of these articles are specifically identifying what chinese officials or how they plan to implement this ban
[2016-11-03 17:17:21] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Correct, cross margin constantly tops up your unrealised losses from your available balance
[2016-11-03 17:17:25] sleger : the big winner will be eth, no ban on eth, chinese exchanges will have to add it !
[2016-11-03 17:17:27] y1uy : we could see drop to 670-690s
[2016-11-03 17:17:28] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: anyway to get more then 100 historic trades at a time?
[2016-11-03 17:18:15] BitMEX_Wally : Cryptlex: You can get 500 via the API
[2016-11-03 17:18:17] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: so unless i get myself liquidated, i will get whatever is left from my isolated margin after i close the trade
[2016-11-03 17:18:31] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Wally: Ah, alright, thanks
[2016-11-03 17:18:47] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Yes
[2016-11-03 17:18:56] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2016-11-03 17:19:27] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: or zcash
[2016-11-03 17:19:29] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Because you opened at 3 ZEC you have high margin. You could close and re-open to reduce this :P
[2016-11-03 17:19:43] tb : can you wash trade to do that?
[2016-11-03 17:19:46] rapidtrades : no tnx :) then i'll have to babysit for ADL
[2016-11-03 17:20:17] sleger : rapidtrades: yes good choice dont close and reopen
[2016-11-03 17:20:18] habibi : rapidtrades: i guess u averaged it down under 0.5 ?
[2016-11-03 17:20:19] BitMEX_Wally : tb: Wash trades do not have any effect, they only pay fees
[2016-11-03 17:20:24] BitMEX_Wally : Wash trades are not even published
[2016-11-03 17:20:49] sleger : but they have some effect, on margin, on ADL ranking ...
[2016-11-03 17:21:52] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: They do not affect avgEntryPrice
[2016-11-03 17:22:05] BitMEX_Wally : So they don't affect anything
[2016-11-03 17:22:11] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: they affect unrealised
[2016-11-03 17:22:45] rapidtrades : what is considered a wash trade here
[2016-11-03 17:22:53] sleger : or are wash trades different than a trade with a second account owned by the same person ?
[2016-11-03 17:22:56] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: An account trading with itself
[2016-11-03 17:23:01] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: you buy and sell at the same price on the same account
[2016-11-03 17:23:40] BitMEX_Wally : If you are trading with different accounts then we do not know it is wash trade
[2016-11-03 17:23:55] Cryptlex : I remember doing that by accident lol
[2016-11-03 17:24:09] rapidtrades : do u pay fees for wash trades?
[2016-11-03 17:24:17] Cryptlex : So i just end up paying the fee minus the rebate?
[2016-11-03 17:24:17] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Yes
[2016-11-03 17:24:23] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2016-11-03 17:25:06] BitMEX_Wally : We're the number #1 non-Chinese exchange today: http://exchangewar.info/#bitmex
[2016-11-03 17:25:08] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: so wash trade wont lower your adl ranking, but offseting position between 2 accounts will ?
[2016-11-03 17:25:30] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Possibly
[2016-11-03 17:25:37] rapidtrades : hmmm sleger is on to smth
[2016-11-03 17:26:18] sleger : rapidtrades: i've already explained it
[2016-11-03 17:26:22] sleger : few times...
[2016-11-03 17:26:39] rapidtrades : yes u made sledger so u can get around ADL
[2016-11-03 17:27:09] sleger : if you have large unrealised and high rank in adl, switch your pos to a 2nd account by trading against it and your unrealised becomes 0 therefore reducing your ADL rank (and pushing someone else higher)
[2016-11-03 17:27:26] sleger : rapidtrades: sledger and I are just "friends"
[2016-11-03 17:27:41] rapidtrades : it's brilliant....and it just costs u 0.05% in fees
[2016-11-03 17:29:01] sleger : yes unfortunately noone should have to have to go through this to arb a rule
[2016-11-03 17:34:11] jeeburns : is it possible to close a portion of your order or no?
[2016-11-03 17:34:25] lockhedge : HKEJ published an article about possible "capital controls" already yesterday, citing "foreign sources" http://www2.hkej.com/instantnews/china/article/1425421 "The measures under consideration include restrictions on the domestic trading platform to transfer bitcoins to offshore platforms, or restrictions on the amount of bitcoins transferred to offshore platforms, according to people familiar with the matter."
[2016-11-03 17:35:01] rapidtrades : and what is HKEJ
[2016-11-03 17:36:00] lockhedge : HK Economic Journal
[2016-11-03 17:36:27] rapidtrades : no shit...i meant what kind of rep does it have
[2016-11-03 17:36:43] rapidtrades : is it the zerohedge of HK
[2016-11-03 17:37:47] lockhedge : they definitely have a higher reputation than zerohedge, but who doesn't
[2016-11-03 17:39:49] thomaskikansha : one of the main press in HK
[2016-11-03 17:41:34] rapidtrades : I'm confused, are we talking about restrictions in china, HK or both
[2016-11-03 17:41:34] numero : lockhedge: sounds just as vague as the english articles
[2016-11-03 17:42:29] numero : this one's similar, http://wallstreetcn.com/node/271376
[2016-11-03 17:43:04] thomaskikansha : literally no restriction imposed in HK
[2016-11-03 17:43:06] BitMEX_Wally : China already has restrictions on on-shore FX conversion. You can only convert up to 50,000 USD worth of CNY into USD/HKD/EUR etc each year
[2016-11-03 17:43:16] BitMEX_Wally : I suspect they will just apply this regime to Bitcoin
[2016-11-03 17:44:10] BitMEX_Wally : I consider this news bullish for Bitcoin because it elevates Bitcoin to the status of a currency in China
[2016-11-03 17:44:14] thomaskikansha : rapidtrades: different authority is responsible for the policy in HK and in China respectively
[2016-11-03 17:44:41] lockhedge : numero: this article you linked cites an article that cites "Bloomberg" (likely zerohedge)
[2016-11-03 17:44:43] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah HK has its own laws and monetary authority
[2016-11-03 17:44:54] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: I'd say it's bullish, because if it's true then people will rush to buy bitcoin before it goes in effect
[2016-11-03 17:44:58] thomaskikansha : yeah HKMA
[2016-11-03 17:45:17] rapidtrades : sleger: how do u know they haven't done that already?
[2016-11-03 17:45:27] rapidtrades : we hit near all-time highs in china this week
[2016-11-03 17:45:29] BitMEX_Wally : HKMA have declared Bitcoin not money, so they don't have to regulate it. They call it a virtual commodity
[2016-11-03 17:45:39] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: the article says Bitcoin is regulated as commodity, that's why regulators are searching for ways to restrict it the same way as currencies
[2016-11-03 17:45:42] rapidtrades : they're notorious for leaking data
[2016-11-03 17:46:07] rapidtrades : buy the inside info, sell the fact etc
[2016-11-03 17:46:12] sleger : rapidtrades: so zcash should go to 3 ?
[2016-11-03 17:46:18] rapidtrades : it's going
[2016-11-03 17:46:52] sleger : dec 31st : 0.1, jan 1st : 3.1
[2016-11-03 17:47:07] numero : lockhedge: and yours cites "informed sources" :P
[2016-11-03 17:47:37] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Wally: I dont see much development of crypto-related items in HK recently though
[2016-11-03 17:47:38] rapidtrades : ok 500k...that can't be a real bid
[2016-11-03 17:47:41] rapidtrades : and its gone
[2016-11-03 17:48:46] lockhedge : numero: yeah, but it's from yesterday (before the zerohedge article appeared), so it's a different source
[2016-11-03 17:48:54] sleger : rapidtrades: was part eaten and still there
[2016-11-03 17:49:50] numero : lockhedge: hmm, touche
[2016-11-03 17:50:55] rapidtrades : sleger: now's not the time to buy 500k worth of bitcoins
[2016-11-03 17:51:17] thomaskikansha : seems stablizing above 1.3
[2016-11-03 17:52:20] sleger : it's always the time to buy 2 ferraris worth of bitcoin
[2016-11-03 17:55:18] BitMEX_Wally : Still there 476425 @ 710.01
[2016-11-03 17:56:22] sleger : we all know it's whally's bid
[2016-11-03 17:56:31] BitMEX_Wally : Wally the whale?
[2016-11-03 17:56:35] sleger : yep
[2016-11-03 17:56:57] BitMEX_Wally : As opposed to Sleger the Slug?
[2016-11-03 17:57:57] sleger : "Slug, or land slug, is a common name for any apparently shell-less terrestrial gastropod mollusc."
[2016-11-03 17:58:28] thomaskikansha : thats only 4764 contracts in okc futures there was one 80000 contracts bid in quarterlies earlier today when China's at 5100
[2016-11-03 17:58:52] sleger : well that guy wasnt very smart
[2016-11-03 18:00:28] AudibleScience : "slug" is the user friendly and URL valid name of a post no?
[2016-11-03 18:00:43] AudibleScience : lol
[2016-11-03 18:01:49] wurstgelee : re.
[2016-11-03 18:02:01] wurstgelee : what did i miss? is bitcoin dead yet? are we @ 10k?
[2016-11-03 18:03:09] habibi : on fixed my liq should be the same no matter what other positions or orders i have right?
[2016-11-03 18:03:37] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Correct
[2016-11-03 18:03:52] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: check my swap position liq now and in minute if u can
[2016-11-03 18:03:53] wurstgelee : i tossed a coin, i can verify Wally's answer
[2016-11-03 18:03:57] wurstgelee : same result
[2016-11-03 18:04:12] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Currently 687.77
[2016-11-03 18:04:16] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: So you are 25x isolated
[2016-11-03 18:04:23] habibi : check now
[2016-11-03 18:04:53] BitMEX_Wally : 708.36
[2016-11-03 18:05:02] habibi : still 25x isolated
[2016-11-03 18:05:19] Tetsuo : thomaskikansha: did the 80k get filled, did u watch?
[2016-11-03 18:05:53] Tetsuo : i don´t think i´ve ever seen a80k order @okc
[2016-11-03 18:06:13] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Sorry, 687.77 now. Are you changing the risk limit?
[2016-11-03 18:06:25] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: nope, just adding 500k order to the books
[2016-11-03 18:08:34] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh sorry, that 708.38 was not liquidation price but margin call price, meaning at that price we will drop your risk limit down to avoid a liquidation
[2016-11-03 18:09:34] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: ok, thanks
[2016-11-03 18:09:46] BitMEX_Wally : So 708.36 margin call price and 687.77 liquidation price. But once your position exceeds the risk step your liquidation price could rise