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[2016-11-02 23:01:03] yerb : testing resistance
[2016-11-02 23:01:23] yerb : lets blow trough shall be :)
[2016-11-02 23:01:33] rfcdejong : possible
[2016-11-02 23:01:42] rfcdejong : wish I could predict lol
[2016-11-02 23:01:55] yerb : heh yeah
[2016-11-02 23:02:04] john1243 : I'm short on FCT which is like being long BTC
[2016-11-02 23:02:27] Boontjie : and short actual factom
[2016-11-02 23:02:36] viptrader : so mark price is wrong here
[2016-11-02 23:02:41] viptrader : what about liq price?
[2016-11-02 23:02:47] viptrader : is it wrong too?
[2016-11-02 23:02:51] Boontjie : viptrader: based on mark
[2016-11-02 23:03:02] john1243 : my liq price is 0.00322
[2016-11-02 23:03:32] rfcdejong : I did transfer 1 BTC into here, won 1 BTC yday and lost 1.5 BTC today lol :)
[2016-11-02 23:03:55] rfcdejong : 100% margin is worst than trading ZEC
[2016-11-02 23:04:29] rfcdejong : but my own fault, shorted somewhere I though it would go...
[2016-11-02 23:04:35] rfcdejong : while asleep
[2016-11-02 23:05:01] rfcdejong : for nearly 150 BTC haha
[2016-11-02 23:05:20] john1243 : you shorted BTC or ZEC?
[2016-11-02 23:05:23] rfcdejong : I love trading in here already, huge amounts but insane risk
[2016-11-02 23:05:25] rfcdejong : BTC
[2016-11-02 23:06:13] john1243 : yeah I wouldn't short it here unless it makes a new high
[2016-11-02 23:06:15] rfcdejong : yday around 730-735 or so, while it went to 740 before falling down
[2016-11-02 23:06:27] rfcdejong : should had shorted at 740
[2016-11-02 23:06:34] wurstgelee : stop teasing buttcoin ffs
[2016-11-02 23:07:06] rfcdejong : :)
[2016-11-02 23:07:30] rfcdejong : it is just a matter of time before btc crash back to 600 and then slowly tank
[2016-11-02 23:07:39] rfcdejong : finding the right moment
[2016-11-02 23:07:44] rfcdejong : could hit 800 as well
[2016-11-02 23:07:56] rfcdejong : or 900 even
[2016-11-02 23:08:24] Boontjie : rfcdejong: chill
[2016-11-02 23:08:37] rfcdejong : and I will probl settle for 5% profit with a 150 BTC short haha
[2016-11-02 23:08:43] rfcdejong : why chill :)
[2016-11-02 23:08:44] Boontjie : its not at 10K yet
[2016-11-02 23:09:55] rfcdejong : as long as I keep a certain amount of BTC i'm happy
[2016-11-02 23:10:01] rfcdejong : in cold storage
[2016-11-02 23:11:35] rfcdejong : kind of a silence in here? :)
[2016-11-02 23:11:43] rfcdejong : 641 users
[2016-11-02 23:12:05] numero : Tetsuo talking to himself kind of killed it for me
[2016-11-02 23:12:34] rfcdejong : who is Tetsuo? :)
[2016-11-02 23:12:58] numero : I'm not sure to be honest
[2016-11-02 23:13:06] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: exhausted. 2 much trading and mining in the last days
[2016-11-02 23:13:09] wurstgelee : chilling
[2016-11-02 23:13:26] rfcdejong : the iron man ? :)
[2016-11-02 23:13:35] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: haha
[2016-11-02 23:15:15] blacktuesday : lets go btc fomo
[2016-11-02 23:15:50] rfcdejong : that was a short negative mcad
[2016-11-02 23:16:31] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: ? 1min timeframe? oO
[2016-11-02 23:16:33] rfcdejong : on 1 minute bars, kind of useless :)
[2016-11-02 23:16:36] wurstgelee : ah k
[2016-11-02 23:16:53] rfcdejong : it's way green on longer time frames
[2016-11-02 23:17:13] rfcdejong : put can't stay to green then...
[2016-11-02 23:17:31] viptrader : futures going to new high
[2016-11-02 23:17:36] viptrader : all in long
[2016-11-02 23:17:45] john1243 : hoping my FCT short hits now :S
[2016-11-02 23:17:54] sledger : viptrader: Rekt in peace
[2016-11-02 23:17:54] rfcdejong : I haven't tried trading futures yet
[2016-11-02 23:18:18] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: have you been doing any more ZEC mining rentals on nicehash?
[2016-11-02 23:18:46] rfcdejong : oh there we go back down it seems
[2016-11-02 23:19:01] viptrader : what exchange u following boys
[2016-11-02 23:19:03] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: a few, hardly profitable. kept on doing it tho becaquse i liked dumping on polo :D
[2016-11-02 23:19:16] EA_FTW : Got a nasty surprise today - back of the envelope calcs said 1.3ZEC/BTC, instead I only got 0.5! Don't know what went wrong?
[2016-11-02 23:19:20] rfcdejong : or not... damn I'm glad I'm not in a position now ;)
[2016-11-02 23:19:20] john1243 : push btc push
[2016-11-02 23:19:21] wurstgelee : stopped it now
[2016-11-02 23:19:23] viptrader : 3m futures want the moon
[2016-11-02 23:19:49] wurstgelee : the weekly btc is so beautiful.
[2016-11-02 23:20:09] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: crazy thought....can't I neutralize my long here by buying hashes?
[2016-11-02 23:20:10] wurstgelee : high noon, area of historically reistance
[2016-11-02 23:20:23] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: its not profitable, prob a loss even
[2016-11-02 23:20:45] john1243 : there we go, closed out my FCT short for 15%
[2016-11-02 23:20:56] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: yeah it was a stupid idea
[2016-11-02 23:21:06] wurstgelee : indeed
[2016-11-02 23:21:22] viptrader : long this shit now
[2016-11-02 23:21:36] blacktuesday : can we make a bullflag and keep pushing
[2016-11-02 23:21:51] rapidtrades : im torn about this bitcoin rally...
[2016-11-02 23:22:16] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: yeah, I don't understand it, doing the calculations based on network hashrate, ZEC/block and price, it worked out beutifully on Monday (even without factoring in the pump!), today more than half of the ZEC went missing it seems (unless explorer.zcha.in is not accurate anymore?)
[2016-11-02 23:22:48] rapidtrades : how did it 'went missing'
[2016-11-02 23:23:12] kradiav : remember that they are the z-addr that don't show any amounts, so if someone mines to a z-address the amt won't show up
[2016-11-02 23:23:15] rapidtrades : FOUNDERS BURNED IT TO JACK UP PRICES
[2016-11-02 23:23:20] rapidtrades : buy buy buy
[2016-11-02 23:24:23] john1243 : rapidtrades: how would you know
[2016-11-02 23:25:27] EA_FTW : rapidtrades: dunno? Some info I'm dealing with must be wrong, or the miners aren't paying up properly or something? Monday: ((700/3000)/0.12))*1 = 1.9 [I got 1.8]. Today: ((11500/5000)/0.18))*1.0.8 = 1.4 [I got 0.55!!]
[2016-11-02 23:25:43] rfcdejong : it seems altcoins don't go down as fast as before when btc rise
[2016-11-02 23:25:45] john1243 : block explorer still says about 4k ZEC
[2016-11-02 23:26:38] rapidtrades : only 4k...they are so precious
[2016-11-02 23:26:44] john1243 : rfcdejong: that's because they oversold and cleared out longs and shorts at higher levels
[2016-11-02 23:26:54] rfcdejong : john1243: :)
[2016-11-02 23:27:08] john1243 : rapidtrades: pfft, say that in 2 months when there is 324,000
[2016-11-02 23:28:06] rapidtrades : that's only 2% of bitcoin supply
[2016-11-02 23:28:24] rapidtrades : implied price 50 btc per zec
[2016-11-02 23:28:52] rapidtrades : good thing it's under the new cap
[2016-11-02 23:29:16] Tetsuo : I have such high hopes for my chickuns right now. If BTC consolidates or dumps a bit they will arise Romero Style.
[2016-11-02 23:29:59] Tetsuo : ...next 2-3 weeks
[2016-11-02 23:30:12] rapidtrades : and here comes Tetsuo high as a kite
[2016-11-02 23:30:24] rapidtrades : the evening is complete
[2016-11-02 23:31:05] Tetsuo : And i'm gone. Just wanted to share my last enlightnings
[2016-11-02 23:31:24] numero : good night
[2016-11-02 23:31:45] rapidtrades : thanks I feel less enlightened then before u arrived @Tetsuo
[2016-11-02 23:32:04] numero : sweet dreams :) of chickuns
[2016-11-02 23:35:42] blacktuesday : moar up pls
[2016-11-02 23:37:43] rapidtrades : traitors at polo f*cked up Operation Fury 2
[2016-11-02 23:38:11] rapidtrades : don't worry tho we'll get them next time
[2016-11-02 23:45:43] blacktuesday : i can haz moon pls?
[2016-11-02 23:45:49] AudibleScience : do you think capital controls are fuelling this pump? @rapidtrades
[2016-11-02 23:46:17] blacktuesday : remember rember november
[2016-11-02 23:47:22] blacktuesday : okc qtr spike 789
[2016-11-02 23:47:39] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-02 23:47:43] wurstgelee : its on
[2016-11-02 23:47:47] blacktuesday : bitmex futes still so cheap
[2016-11-02 23:47:48] wurstgelee : *prob
[2016-11-02 23:48:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 1500 @ 787.74
[2016-11-02 23:49:19] blacktuesday : erektion in 3....2....1....
[2016-11-02 23:50:21] john1243 : maybe be able to catch some massive lows on alts
[2016-11-02 23:50:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 735.88 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-02 23:51:39] rfcdejong : who is that REKT guy
[2016-11-02 23:51:43] rfcdejong : bot ?
[2016-11-02 23:51:49] sledger : no some funny dude
[2016-11-02 23:51:57] john1243 : lol, everyone is getting rekt
[2016-11-02 23:51:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 150 @ 736.90
[2016-11-02 23:52:00] sledger : he comes around and liquidates people
[2016-11-02 23:52:02] rapidtrades : just an asshole @rfcdejong
[2016-11-02 23:52:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 145000 @ 738.90 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-02 23:52:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1776 @ 737.71
[2016-11-02 23:52:08] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-11-02 23:52:13] blacktuesday : *ORGASM*
[2016-11-02 23:52:13] wurstgelee : :D :D :D
[2016-11-02 23:52:29] blacktuesday : talk targets?
[2016-11-02 23:52:32] blacktuesday : 800 spot?
[2016-11-02 23:52:34] john1243 : lol
[2016-11-02 23:52:37] rapidtrades : well...this won't help my ZEC long
[2016-11-02 23:52:45] sledger : nothing can
[2016-11-02 23:52:49] blacktuesday : 900 futs?
[2016-11-02 23:52:56] mjones : so laggy
[2016-11-02 23:53:05] sledger : site slow
[2016-11-02 23:53:05] rapidtrades : holy volatility batman
[2016-11-02 23:53:06] rfcdejong : liquidated short for 145000 @ 738.90, that was a big one
[2016-11-02 23:53:16] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: we have seen bigger
[2016-11-02 23:53:17] john1243 : 5080
[2016-11-02 23:53:19] wurstgelee : way bigger
[2016-11-02 23:53:22] habibi : orderbooks not loading only for me?
[2016-11-02 23:53:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 23:53:25] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: haha oke
[2016-11-02 23:53:39] wurstgelee : wtf
[2016-11-02 23:53:43] blacktuesday : lag?
[2016-11-02 23:53:44] wurstgelee : some bot going haywire?
[2016-11-02 23:53:45] mjones : lol
[2016-11-02 23:53:45] rfcdejong : lol look at XBTZ16
[2016-11-02 23:53:45] mjones : rekt
[2016-11-02 23:53:52] wurstgelee : wtf
[2016-11-02 23:53:56] wurstgelee : is happening
[2016-11-02 23:53:57] rapidtrades : bots dead
[2016-11-02 23:54:02] wurstgelee : tilt
[2016-11-02 23:54:11] rfcdejong : going down is not what bitcoin does, why does it go down there lol
[2016-11-02 23:54:12] rapidtrades : sleger went on tilt?
[2016-11-02 23:54:29] wurstgelee : nope bots
[2016-11-02 23:54:32] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-02 23:54:35] wurstgelee : watch xbtusd
[2016-11-02 23:54:45] rapidtrades : spot is barely moving...what a crazy place this is
[2016-11-02 23:55:02] rapidtrades : and sleger things we can accurately price zec futures
[2016-11-02 23:55:03] john1243 : wow, almost new high
[2016-11-02 23:55:07] mjones : xbtz16 is fucked
[2016-11-02 23:55:16] jeeburns : rfcdejong: almost got me lol that dump
[2016-11-02 23:55:17] rfcdejong : fuc my alt coins actually o down
[2016-11-02 23:55:23] rfcdejong : jeeburns: hehe
[2016-11-02 23:55:27] blacktuesday : lol
[2016-11-02 23:56:10] john1243 : just a few dollars more to break new gih and then moon!
[2016-11-02 23:56:16] rfcdejong : might buy more ETH lol
[2016-11-02 23:56:16] john1243 : high*
[2016-11-02 23:56:24] rfcdejong : not here, but on polo
[2016-11-02 23:57:06] rfcdejong : I wonder if that guy on Augur will remove his buy wall
[2016-11-02 23:57:50] rapidtrades : zec to 1.26...not too bad
[2016-11-02 23:58:09] john1243 : it's as big as the sell side lol
[2016-11-02 23:58:52] blacktuesday : that lag was serious
[2016-11-03 00:00:00] mjmj83 : Does anyone know the recent history of ADL's here?
[2016-11-03 00:00:06] kradiav : rapidtrades: dude, for your own good try to be more objective
[2016-11-03 00:01:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 64208 @ 743.28 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-03 00:01:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 26070 @ 743.23 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 00:01:19] john1243 : cmon 5180
[2016-11-03 00:01:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 29106 @ 744.33 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-03 00:03:22] messiaen8844 : time for some correction...
[2016-11-03 00:05:16] rapidtrades : kradiav: k
[2016-11-03 00:05:17] john1243 : FU
[2016-11-03 00:05:26] john1243 : FUD
[2016-11-03 00:05:31] john1243 : oops
[2016-11-03 00:05:44] john1243 : meant FUD not FU lol
[2016-11-03 00:06:26] blacktuesday : correction not looking likely yet
[2016-11-03 00:06:30] rapidtrades : trying to figure out what's going on here lol
[2016-11-03 00:06:34] blacktuesday : maybe this pump is the "correction" :)
[2016-11-03 00:06:35] vizlma22 : Dec 30 100x spikes are too dangerous and always seem to find my liquidation price--glad I stopped using cross margin, although now it seems like the SL isn't canceled anymore.
[2016-11-03 00:06:58] blacktuesday : surprised zec hasn't moved much
[2016-11-03 00:07:13] blacktuesday : will zec shit the bed now?
[2016-11-03 00:07:15] rapidtrades : ZEC is a f*cking rock
[2016-11-03 00:07:23] rapidtrades : move all ur savings to ZEC now
[2016-11-03 00:07:33] nope : rapidtrades: ahahahaha
[2016-11-03 00:08:03] john1243 : lol that's funny
[2016-11-03 00:08:09] blacktuesday : xbtx16 so bearish lol
[2016-11-03 00:08:15] blacktuesday : i want to sell 800
[2016-11-03 00:08:23] laisee : rapidtrades: gave up my job at McDnalds to trade ZEC
[2016-11-03 00:08:24] sledger : blacktuesday: is that a new contract ?
[2016-11-03 00:08:40] blacktuesday : lol xbtz
[2016-11-03 00:08:41] blacktuesday : sorry
[2016-11-03 00:08:50] wurstgelee : z16?
[2016-11-03 00:08:51] wurstgelee : ah k
[2016-11-03 00:08:59] sledger : careful or i will have to ban you @blacktuesday
[2016-11-03 00:09:27] rapidtrades : he doesn't have banning power
[2016-11-03 00:09:30] blacktuesday : my apologies, good sir. I will be more careful in the trollbox
[2016-11-03 00:09:34] rapidtrades : but i do
[2016-11-03 00:09:43] sledger : rapidtrades: I do, I banned you 3 times already
[2016-11-03 00:10:03] laisee : can ban people if you pay extra. all is 4 sale
[2016-11-03 00:10:05] sledger : blacktuesday: "good sir" ok one extra good point for you
[2016-11-03 00:10:08] rapidtrades : every ban lets u ban 1 other person
[2016-11-03 00:10:15] rapidtrades : it's the circle of ban
[2016-11-03 00:10:22] rapidtrades : so watch out @blacktuesday
[2016-11-03 00:10:43] laisee : bottom 10% get banned every week
[2016-11-03 00:10:55] laisee : to encourage the others ...
[2016-11-03 00:11:14] sledger : wouldnt be fun
[2016-11-03 00:11:19] sledger : we wouldnt have rapid to troll
[2016-11-03 00:11:44] laisee : but he is top 10% in trolling, so he cannot be banned 4 ever
[2016-11-03 00:13:00] sledger : i thought you meant in trading
[2016-11-03 00:13:24] john1243 : cmon, I wanna see a push above 5200 now
[2016-11-03 00:14:10] laisee : cutting bottom 10% wouldn't leave much after few weeks ...
[2016-11-03 00:14:21] rapidtrades : are u calling out my trading abilities mr ETH investor ? @sledger
[2016-11-03 00:14:37] sledger : long ZEC at 3 :o
[2016-11-03 00:14:41] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-03 00:14:49] rapidtrades : POLO WAS AT 30
[2016-11-03 00:15:00] wurstgelee : polo was at 3300 also...
[2016-11-03 00:15:04] sledger : lol
[2016-11-03 00:15:09] laisee : arb of the decade
[2016-11-03 00:15:12] rapidtrades : that was after 3300
[2016-11-03 00:15:15] blacktuesday : there is no dip. all in long. hold on to your ass
[2016-11-03 00:15:25] laisee : ZEC market cap: $NaN. Can't lose.
[2016-11-03 00:15:32] micmix : my bot was buying xbtz16 @796 for some reason
[2016-11-03 00:15:33] blacktuesday : pray to the ADL gods
[2016-11-03 00:16:14] sledger : i bought some at 776 i dont know why looks like someone dumped a bunch by mistake
[2016-11-03 00:16:58] wurstgelee : micmix: looked lie some bot went haywire
[2016-11-03 00:17:02] wurstgelee : xbtusd and z16
[2016-11-03 00:17:08] wurstgelee : *like
[2016-11-03 00:17:28] rapidtrades : no way
[2016-11-03 00:19:12] micmix : not a bot, someone dumped a lot on z16, I see my bot bought about 20k in 770-780 area
[2016-11-03 00:20:05] john1243 : seems like a bad idea to me
[2016-11-03 00:20:46] jordanbitfort : fuck i closed my 15x long at 728 today then come back and see this
[2016-11-03 00:20:48] john1243 : I feel like BTC is going to push to new highs
[2016-11-03 00:21:34] john1243 : only 90 CNY away from topping june high
[2016-11-03 00:22:16] rapidtrades : perfect place for a double top then
[2016-11-03 00:24:54] john1243 : yeah that would be great
[2016-11-03 00:26:16] Rado : sledger: do you have a MM bot as well?
[2016-11-03 00:26:58] sledger : not running here no, turned it off after they did not reimburse me the loss they caused
[2016-11-03 00:27:43] Rado : k
[2016-11-03 00:28:24] RocketScience : Did you get loss in quoine flash crash?
[2016-11-03 00:33:44] rapidtrades : that's it, he turned off the crazy bot
[2016-11-03 00:38:14] Triosho : Hey guys, in the fair price marking formula, how do you get the days to expiry figure? eg : (30/365)
[2016-11-03 00:42:02] sledger : RocketScience: no they changed how a live instrument(swap) worked which caused a 10$ move in price when they announced it and I had a 1k btc position in the other direction
[2016-11-03 00:47:44] esuvari : how come eth won't drop?
[2016-11-03 00:54:49] micmix : oh, just noticed that sleger is sledger now. or he's an impostor?
[2016-11-03 00:55:36] sally : mods?
[2016-11-03 00:55:50] habibi : sally: yes sir?
[2016-11-03 00:59:43] sledger : micmix: ahah ...
[2016-11-03 01:00:12] Rado : I am sure it was sleger yesterday
[2016-11-03 01:00:24] Rado : maybe a second account
[2016-11-03 01:00:44] micmix : sledger: we need prove that you are real "The Legend" sleger ;-)
[2016-11-03 01:01:12] sledger : how may I do that
[2016-11-03 01:01:18] Rado : Photo with today's newspaper
[2016-11-03 01:01:48] sledger : how that achieves anything ?
[2016-11-03 01:01:53] micmix : login to sleger account and type "sledger is the boss"
[2016-11-03 01:02:10] sledger : sledger is the boss
[2016-11-03 01:02:18] Rado : Ha ha
[2016-11-03 01:02:28] sledger : micmix is my deputy
[2016-11-03 01:02:31] micmix : lol
[2016-11-03 01:02:31] habibi : micmix: sleger used to be perfect hedged trader, sledger is just some eth shiller :p
[2016-11-03 01:03:14] micmix : ok, the verdict is "impostor" ;-)
[2016-11-03 01:03:56] Rado : Sleger is way more brutal as well
[2016-11-03 01:04:06] Rado : this guy is soft
[2016-11-03 01:04:32] aethlios : the road to moon continues for btc....
[2016-11-03 01:04:34] Rado : Maybe it's sleger's boyfriend
[2016-11-03 01:05:28] sledger : we have the same color
[2016-11-03 01:05:34] Rado : $770 will be a nice place to sell/short
[2016-11-03 01:05:57] sledger : much better than buying ZEC@3 for sure
[2016-11-03 01:06:17] Rado : Maybe he just changed account name
[2016-11-03 01:06:30] Rado : I did this a few months back
[2016-11-03 01:06:43] sledger : i didnt ask anything
[2016-11-03 01:06:45] aethlios : don't short, if you have longs and want to sell in profit ok.
[2016-11-03 01:07:22] Rado : aethlios: no idea what that means
[2016-11-03 01:07:52] habibi : aethlios: stop giving rekt advices
[2016-11-03 01:08:20] Rado : Are one of these people that accumulate fiat?
[2016-11-03 01:08:23] aethlios : not advice, just my opinion for the market
[2016-11-03 01:08:27] sledger : he means only sell if you are long, which doesnt make any sense
[2016-11-03 01:08:46] sledger : if selling is a good trade, doesnt matter your current position
[2016-11-03 01:08:49] Rado : he thinks we are selling BTC for USD
[2016-11-03 01:08:57] Rado : we only trade BTC
[2016-11-03 01:09:07] habibi : micmix: u could make a bot that will follow his opinions on paper trades
[2016-11-03 01:09:07] Rado : nobfiat conversion ever
[2016-11-03 01:09:48] aethlios : I mean the market can go much higher, so don't short an uptrend. But if you are long from 620 and feel you have a nice profit at 780-790 previous high ok take profit and leave.
[2016-11-03 01:10:52] aethlios : half mill. short someone 747
[2016-11-03 01:10:56] habibi : "if u have nice profit, nothing wrong in taking it" great advice
[2016-11-03 01:13:12] Rado : No liquidations yet
[2016-11-03 01:13:43] sledger : soooooooon
[2016-11-03 01:14:01] sledger : 500k back
[2016-11-03 01:14:30] messiaen8844 : let's see what happens, I would be expecint $800 spot before that retrace
[2016-11-03 01:15:03] messiaen8844 : we didn't go even vertical yet
[2016-11-03 01:15:10] messiaen8844 : just lots of controlledf lags
[2016-11-03 01:15:32] martinium : real volume hasn't kicked in yet
[2016-11-03 01:15:55] martinium : beautiful multiyear cup n handle going to complete
[2016-11-03 01:16:20] aethlios : no sleep until 3 days after election, now the time to make 2 years money
[2016-11-03 01:16:26] imabeast : martinium: ascending scallup
[2016-11-03 01:16:37] martinium : yeah the scallop is explosive
[2016-11-03 01:16:42] martinium : to the upside
[2016-11-03 01:16:50] imabeast : martinium: target?
[2016-11-03 01:17:03] martinium : mid 800's
[2016-11-03 01:17:18] imabeast : we need a correction
[2016-11-03 01:17:21] imabeast : that short will be nice
[2016-11-03 01:17:23] martinium : we had one today
[2016-11-03 01:17:24] imabeast : :D
[2016-11-03 01:17:28] martinium : and on saturday
[2016-11-03 01:17:34] rapidtrades : don't worry it will correct to 4k
[2016-11-03 01:17:39] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-03 01:17:44] martinium : huge one will be after this move completes in the 800's
[2016-11-03 01:17:52] imabeast : yea thats what i meant
[2016-11-03 01:17:59] martinium : wow someone put a buy wall
[2016-11-03 01:18:03] martinium : sell wall *
[2016-11-03 01:18:07] martinium : 500k
[2016-11-03 01:18:12] imabeast : lolol
[2016-11-03 01:18:14] rapidtrades : boom boom boom
[2016-11-03 01:18:37] bernx : lol
[2016-11-03 01:18:38] bernx : 500k
[2016-11-03 01:18:48] rapidtrades : another max funding after this one, sweet
[2016-11-03 01:19:23] martinium : rapidtrades: how high did you short from?
[2016-11-03 01:19:32] rapidtrades : 680s
[2016-11-03 01:19:43] martinium : I assume you are hedged then
[2016-11-03 01:19:51] martinium : using one long and one short
[2016-11-03 01:20:09] rapidtrades : yes it was a hedge, im net long BTC
[2016-11-03 01:21:41] rapidtrades : i longed at 615 at half my usual size...thought the rally wouldn't last
[2016-11-03 01:23:31] aethlios : rapidtrades: do you have more than 100 btc capital? or above 50? or below 50?
[2016-11-03 01:24:50] rapidtrades : no comment :)
[2016-11-03 01:26:20] martinium : of course he does
[2016-11-03 01:26:33] martinium : it takes a lot of capital to do that strategy
[2016-11-03 01:26:38] martinium : at least for decent profits
[2016-11-03 01:26:40] martinium : :-p
[2016-11-03 01:26:59] l3f : This funding rate is insane
[2016-11-03 01:27:09] sledger : it takes capital proportional to your position size, so no it depends
[2016-11-03 01:27:32] rapidtrades : yeah it's main purpose its a hedge, the funding is just gravy
[2016-11-03 01:27:34] aethlios : if capital is relative to talking, he must be a trumpionaire
[2016-11-03 01:27:57] AudibleScience : hey sam are you here?
[2016-11-03 01:28:25] AudibleScience : how do I buy 0.01 of a contract lol
[2016-11-03 01:28:38] rapidtrades : u cant :)
[2016-11-03 01:29:12] Rado : AudibleScience: 1 contract it's already very cheap
[2016-11-03 01:29:18] AudibleScience : lol I know man
[2016-11-03 01:29:40] rapidtrades : constant buying pressure on zec here
[2016-11-03 01:29:59] aethlios : this is btc show now.
[2016-11-03 01:30:03] rapidtrades : sentiment improved a bit after that announcement
[2016-11-03 01:30:33] rapidtrades : if ZEC is staying at 1.3 with BTC rallying, just imagine what will happen when BTC dumps
[2016-11-03 01:31:04] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.7491 (vs. yesterday at 6.7562) <15 mins ago
[2016-11-03 01:31:14] rapidtrades : another stronger Yuan fix
[2016-11-03 01:31:21] aethlios : finex redeemed 1.5% of bfx
[2016-11-03 01:31:26] AudibleScience : I was just joking because when you edit the quantity of an order that's already in the book, the notice that pops up to inform you says: "xxxxx.00"
[2016-11-03 01:31:51] rapidtrades : aethlios: great...guess they had to with their scheme stuck at 20mil
[2016-11-03 01:32:00] AudibleScience : where xxxxx is the number of contracts.
[2016-11-03 01:32:23] bernx : Everyone ready for 1% funding? :D
[2016-11-03 01:32:40] AudibleScience : bernx: on what?
[2016-11-03 01:32:47] bernx : BTC ofc
[2016-11-03 01:32:48] l3f : Why trade XBTUSD when you can trade the future?
[2016-11-03 01:32:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: On Thursday November 3rd, at 15:30 UTC we will be undergoing planned downtime for system maintenance and site updates. This update will encompass over 50 new features and optimizations. We expect the update will take up to 90 minutes, but may be completed in under an hour.
[2016-11-03 01:33:13] aethlios : finex
[2016-11-03 01:33:25] rapidtrades : hmmm why
[2016-11-03 01:33:32] aethlios : btc up much fees for finex to pay us back
[2016-11-03 01:33:58] rapidtrades : i'm glad finex is paying u with the money the stole from us
[2016-11-03 01:34:36] aethlios : I kept bfx and use them as margin to trade btc, arb funding with bitmex etc.
[2016-11-03 01:34:39] rapidtrades : considering how stupid they are, that update will prolly break their site
[2016-11-03 01:35:04] AudibleScience : aethlios: you're not still trading on buttfiness are you!?
[2016-11-03 01:35:08] aethlios : they keep optimazing the platform
[2016-11-03 01:35:20] rapidtrades : too late now
[2016-11-03 01:35:51] aethlios : AudibleScience: yes still trading there, 13 mill volume, many trade there, I use 5 exchanges.
[2016-11-03 01:35:56] rapidtrades : ur the only one here who's still trading on finex, they're faking everything
[2016-11-03 01:36:22] aethlios : where to trade spot btcusd??
[2016-11-03 01:36:31] AudibleScience : aethlios: yeah optimising the platform to make it even easier for them to steal users funds! lol
[2016-11-03 01:36:45] rapidtrades : aethlios: idk...why do u have to trade spot?
[2016-11-03 01:37:23] rapidtrades : aethlios: are u on bitvc?
[2016-11-03 01:37:44] aethlios : rapidtrades: I have the bfx coins? what to do them? only there I can have them, so use those with x3 margin, I go long finex short bitmex and receive the funding
[2016-11-03 01:37:54] aethlios : no bitvc
[2016-11-03 01:38:34] rapidtrades : ok looks good in retrospect but u take a large risk of them going under
[2016-11-03 01:38:39] aethlios : bitmex, okcoin futures, polo, kraken, and will start using stamp soon.
[2016-11-03 01:39:19] AudibleScience : aethlios: do you have bots?
[2016-11-03 01:39:19] rapidtrades : aethlios: what do u use for withdrawing?
[2016-11-03 01:39:20] aethlios : they took their lesson now.
[2016-11-03 01:39:34] aethlios : AudibleScience: no bots, all manual
[2016-11-03 01:39:39] rapidtrades : idk man, imo ppl don't change
[2016-11-03 01:39:52] AudibleScience : ^^^
[2016-11-03 01:40:11] rapidtrades : the circumstances changed but they haven't and it's only a matter of time until they f*ck up again
[2016-11-03 01:40:42] AudibleScience : I think the exact same thing!
[2016-11-03 01:41:07] sally : on my way to HK
[2016-11-03 01:41:28] AudibleScience : If you're very lucky you may be okay until July 1017
[2016-11-03 01:41:33] rapidtrades : bring ur boxing gloves :) @sally
[2016-11-03 01:41:55] aethlios : rapidtrades: kraken because I am in eurozone, and coinsbank I have a eur debit card, they are excellent also have exchange and can sell any time your btc.
[2016-11-03 01:41:58] sally : rapidtrades: no, just my passport ;)
[2016-11-03 01:42:32] rapidtrades : aethlios: ok cool
[2016-11-03 01:42:54] rapidtrades : so is coinsbank their thing or seperate
[2016-11-03 01:44:15] sally : see you all in a couple hours
[2016-11-03 01:44:25] aethlios : coisnbank with kraken no connection. you can have eur, usd, gbp card and send btc,
[2016-11-03 01:45:39] rapidtrades : their cards look awful tho....9.5 atm fee, 5% currency fee
[2016-11-03 01:46:04] aethlios : coinsbank has 0.5% trading fee and no other fee for your card. because they have exchange, they don't steel you to conversion.
[2016-11-03 01:46:05] rapidtrades : the cheapest atm fee is 3.5
[2016-11-03 01:46:31] rapidtrades : u can prolly get a better deal from a local bank?
[2016-11-03 01:47:35] aethlios : atm fee, if you want cash, conversion is if you buy in different currency than your card. but if you have a eur card in eurozone you don't have conversion fee.
[2016-11-03 01:48:36] rapidtrades : more then half of them even charge a 0.95 POS fee
[2016-11-03 01:48:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: it is a good way not to move your personal banking accounts.
[2016-11-03 01:49:22] rapidtrades : and u do this cos banks have a problem with BTC? or other reasons :)
[2016-11-03 01:49:42] aethlios : no pos fees for coinsbank, unlimited lifetime spend, daily limit 2000 atm, 20000 pos
[2016-11-03 01:50:24] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-11-03 01:52:01] aethlios : rapidtrades: I don't want to move my personal accounts, state watching etc. also can be used all over europe, I leave in greece we have capital controls, with a greek account can't buy nothing from abroad, i can travel with the card and pay everywhere, also have a usd card if i travel to usa one day
[2016-11-03 01:52:38] rapidtrades : ah cool....didn't know u still have capital controls
[2016-11-03 01:53:28] aethlios : rapidtrades: still, 420 weekly limit cash withdrawal, but i can withdraw 2000 daily with coinsbank card.
[2016-11-03 01:54:46] aethlios : btc freedom from greek socialist gov.
[2016-11-03 01:55:13] aethlios : people here work for 300-400 eur monthly
[2016-11-03 01:55:34] Cheese : aethlios: thats not a lot of money
[2016-11-03 01:56:38] aethlios : average salary is 900, but many in private sector work for 300-400, public sector receive 1000
[2016-11-03 01:57:49] aethlios : average public sector worker and pensioner receives more than private sector, also have 30% of population as pensioners, it will collapse.
[2016-11-03 02:00:04] martinium : that is totally unsustainable
[2016-11-03 02:00:51] aethlios : martinium: yes but they don't get it.
[2016-11-03 02:00:53] rapidtrades : aethlios: did u need to give IDs to kraken before withdrawing EUR? maybe im reading their FAQ wrong but it says that it's only for USD/GBP withdrawals
[2016-11-03 02:01:26] aethlios : rapidtrades: yes id and proof of residence.
[2016-11-03 02:01:34] martinium : aethlios: its simple math really
[2016-11-03 02:01:50] martinium : people just don't know or understand economics
[2016-11-03 02:02:02] rapidtrades : aethlios: yeah makes sense....guess their faq is wrong
[2016-11-03 02:02:24] rapidtrades : says only tier 2 and that doesn't include IDs
[2016-11-03 02:05:09] aethlios : martinium: people live from state are majority 3 mill pensioners, 1 mill. public workers, 1,5 mill unemployed, (1,8 mill children) so from 10,5 mill total population 5,5 mill state depended, 1,8 mill children, 2,8 million private sector. so the majority vote socialists who raise taxes to private sector to pay the state depended.
[2016-11-03 02:05:18] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: no man, they totally support €'s too.
[2016-11-03 02:06:04] AudibleScience : hey we almost hit the same high as the 16th of July!
[2016-11-03 02:06:34] rapidtrades : like i said earlier now is perfect time for bitcoin to shit the bed
[2016-11-03 02:07:09] martinium : rapidtrades: its not though
[2016-11-03 02:07:13] martinium : a lot of factors
[2016-11-03 02:07:22] AudibleScience : lol wasn't around then @rapidtrades
[2016-11-03 02:07:23] martinium : it will correct but not yet
[2016-11-03 02:07:51] rapidtrades : so verification-wise, who's less of a pain to deal with. Kraken or bitstamp?
[2016-11-03 02:08:49] martinium : rapidtrades: maybe bitstamp
[2016-11-03 02:08:55] AudibleScience : martinium: when does your crystal TA ball tell you we'll correct back down?
[2016-11-03 02:08:57] martinium : kraken wants your blood in a vial sent to them
[2016-11-03 02:09:27] aethlios : rapidtrades: what do you want eur or usd?? kraken for eur, and kraken for usd also i believe
[2016-11-03 02:09:50] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: I'm t4 on kraken, and it was not a pain at all.
[2016-11-03 02:10:05] rapidtrades : yeah eur would be fine
[2016-11-03 02:11:02] rapidtrades : how are btc/eur prices? where's the highest
[2016-11-03 02:12:26] aethlios : rapidtrades: largest eur market is kraken, also only 0,09 eur cost per withdrawal
[2016-11-03 02:12:56] jose : if you want to cash out in EUR use Kraken, it is by far the most convinent
[2016-11-03 02:13:26] rapidtrades : weird...i thought it was stamp but u guys like kraken
[2016-11-03 02:13:39] aethlios : rapidtrades: https://cryptowat.ch/kraken/btceur
[2016-11-03 02:14:14] martinium : AudibleScience: all depends on momentum but definitely near or on any break into the 800's
[2016-11-03 02:14:37] martinium : just my opinion
[2016-11-03 02:15:11] rapidtrades : ok tnx...i'll check kraken out
[2016-11-03 02:17:22] martinium : rapidtrades: kraken is not good for USD but for EUR its good
[2016-11-03 02:18:35] rapidtrades : looks like 4k kraken vs 0.6k volume
[2016-11-03 02:20:19] AudibleScience : martinium: that ma be so, but you know what, I put a few fat finger catching orders in the GBP book and they got filled! way over market value at the time.
[2016-11-03 02:21:12] AudibleScience : the same could potentially apply on the USD book, haven't tried that yet myself though.
[2016-11-03 02:22:05] rapidtrades : their EUR market seems fairly liquid
[2016-11-03 02:22:20] AudibleScience : yeah it's not bad
[2016-11-03 02:23:17] AudibleScience : can get a bit thin on the buy side sometimes
[2016-11-03 02:30:17] martinium : AudibleScience: where do you see xbt going
[2016-11-03 02:30:57] billyboy402 : well this is shit that btc funding is only 0.098% and not .3570% the funding should avg it over a long time and pay it every hour
[2016-11-03 02:31:06] rapidtrades : so margin on kraken is provided by exchange and fixed?
[2016-11-03 02:31:18] rapidtrades : i mean fixed cost
[2016-11-03 02:33:03] AudibleScience : yeah, they don't have a lending market at all
[2016-11-03 02:33:20] rapidtrades : says 0.01% per 4hrs....i wonder if that's uptodate
[2016-11-03 02:35:29] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: yeah it is
[2016-11-03 02:37:14] AudibleScience : martinium: we could hit the 6000's towards the end of Nov, but I'm a pathological optimist!
[2016-11-03 02:37:29] martinium : lol
[2016-11-03 02:38:09] martinium : in CNY?
[2016-11-03 02:38:24] AudibleScience : yeah
[2016-11-03 02:41:08] AudibleScience : if we hit the 6000's on theUSD side, it would be lush and I'd take it! but I'm not that pathological. lol
[2016-11-03 02:43:55] martinium : definitely
[2016-11-03 02:51:50] thiago : Hey.. I have about 4 bitcoins.. and want to use a long position with leverage.. how that works? can I open and close with enough liquidity?
[2016-11-03 02:53:47] martinium : thiago: do youhave experience trading?
[2016-11-03 02:54:49] aethlios : better keep 4 btc for 10 years.
[2016-11-03 02:56:20] thiago : I occasionally buy and sell bitcoin, ethereum etc... I tested here at bitmex with 0.1 btc on the XBTUSD market... but I read a really bad review about Bitmex hidden taxes.. that worries me the most to be honest..
[2016-11-03 02:57:15] martinium : no hidden taxes
[2016-11-03 02:57:26] martinium : people are just ignorant to how derivatives work
[2016-11-03 02:57:37] martinium : then complain with their lack of knowledge
[2016-11-03 02:58:01] aethlios : thiago: it is the funding, you can buy 3month contract, you pay a higher price but no hidden costs
[2016-11-03 02:58:46] thiago : can i post what I read here?
[2016-11-03 02:58:58] thiago : (short text)
[2016-11-03 02:59:16] aethlios : post
[2016-11-03 02:59:20] thiago : The fees are designed to rip off customers. Charging 0.075% at 100x leverage is just unheard of. Example: You put up 1 BTC margin to open a 100BTC trade. If you open and close at market price, you are charged 15% (0.075% * 100 * 2) on your margin. Meaning you are down to 0.85BTC before even starting to count your P&L for the trade.
[2016-11-03 03:00:01] pulsar-testing : hi
[2016-11-03 03:00:13] pulsar-testing : i forgot, how can i deposit to test account?
[2016-11-03 03:00:29] aethlios : thiago: you want to go for 400 btc long?
[2016-11-03 03:00:43] thiago : no..
[2016-11-03 03:00:52] thiago : maybe 8 btc (2x)
[2016-11-03 03:01:05] martinium : thiago: thats just a complaint on how fees are charged on the notional position value
[2016-11-03 03:01:16] martinium : that how it is done in every market I have traded
[2016-11-03 03:01:27] martinium : same in regular forex
[2016-11-03 03:01:38] Rado : thiago: buy 6000 contarcts
[2016-11-03 03:01:45] martinium : you pay interest on the notional daily
[2016-11-03 03:01:58] aethlios : ok, best for you go long dec. 30 for 8 btc, and you can deposit here 1,5 btc as margin. keep 2,5 outside exchange.
[2016-11-03 03:03:04] aethlios : dec. 30 has now 789, in order to profit spot btc must be above 789 on dec. 30
[2016-11-03 03:03:17] French_Canadian : ready for the ETH launch?
[2016-11-03 03:03:35] martinium : thiago: he is referring to the xbtz16 futures contract which is different than the swap
[2016-11-03 03:04:53] thiago : ok. whats the difference between perpetual swap and Dec 30 ?
[2016-11-03 03:05:08] thiago : I mean.. its perpetual .. but..
[2016-11-03 03:05:30] martinium : futures contract expires every quarter
[2016-11-03 03:05:32] aethlios : dec. 30 you know now how the leverage costs, with swap it may cost more.
[2016-11-03 03:05:38] martinium : means you have to rollover position if you want to keep it open
[2016-11-03 03:05:49] thiago : oh..
[2016-11-03 03:05:57] thiago : ok thank you :)
[2016-11-03 03:06:52] aethlios : if uptrend continues swap could cost 1% per day, dec. 30 costs now 3,10% per month fixed if buy now